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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's do this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Satachi Oji Crew here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Scott Brown with Facebook, America's JJ Cooper and Jeff Ponds, Brandon Winnaker in the twin system is going to join us soon.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He is a big athletic kid.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We'll talk to him.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If you have questions for us, let us know now and I want to go fast because I want to spend time on this topic.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I like it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's hit the first move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Me and me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We have farm system, stat-cast, hitting rankings, and unique formulas put together by baseball America's finest so you can see the tweet here that they measured performance to season underlying metrics.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We have Hawkeye data gathered across the minors to show which players top the leaderboards.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But what about farm system rankings?

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, J.J.

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[SPEAKER_04]: hit plus is what we call it and what does hit plus

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, okay, there's a lot of complicated formulas in here, but I'd really can summarize it pretty quickly, which is we're looking at how much hitters understand the strikes on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do they chase pitches of the other zone?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do they hold off?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do they hit pitches in the zone?

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[SPEAKER_02]: How much contact do you make?

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[SPEAKER_02]: How hard you hit it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then kind of what you do when you do hit it, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you pulling it, line drive in the air?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you slapping it on the ground?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That kind of all bakes into like how often you're how much you're expected to produce from that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: everyone in the miners pull out together and that gives you organizational hit plus rates, which gives you an idea of how these different organizations do at different aspects of hit it, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But with hitting it really comes down to it's pretty simple.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You see it here, but that can really be summarized as do you know the strike zone, you swing it strikes, take balls, do you make contact with when you swing

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[SPEAKER_02]: and do you hit the ball hard and hit the ball well when you do Jeff, that's kind of the summation of it, isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think, you know, it's easy to kind of look at the numbers and to sort of come away with certain trends based on the fact that it is, you know, a skill that very much is defined as to what you need to do, which is putting the bat in the ball number

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[SPEAKER_03]: swing it pitches that are hitable number two.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And when you do those two things, do as much damage as you possibly can in terms of hitting the ball hard, but also hitting the ball hard at optimal angles.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's all stuff that we're trying to bake into this number.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so we're trying to get a really well-rounded look at each and every prospect within an organization and then sort of weigh out based upon, you know, how many of bats each prospect got, what their unique contribution is to the larger number if that all makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the thing that stands out there is you see it right there is the Dodgers are number one which is probably not a stunning development But the Dodgers are the thing about the Dodgers is is that really stands out is there's not this one attributes Not like that they hit the ball harder than everyone else is not that they have the best pitch recognition zone recognition It's just that their hitters across the organization

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[SPEAKER_02]: do everything really well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's solid, there's not some giant flaw in the Dodgers organizational development of hitters.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You put that all together and that's why they rank number one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I think that's clear to see when you look at any of these teams that are up at the top, but particularly the Dodgers where, you know, they rank above average in swing decisions and contact overall and they're right around their own contact.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And as we often see I think just within numbers that you'll trade maybe a little bit of zone miss for a little bit more impact and that regard their higher and 90th percentile EV their higher in barrels and as well as any of these teams right at the top they really do balance sort of the plate skills which when I use that term I'm describing that's a ball ability and swing decisions and then you know impact which we're talking about

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[SPEAKER_03]: They'd be able to hit the ball hard, but also catch battles, hit the ball at good angles, and to be able to spray the ball at the right parts of the park and do damage because we are baking in a little bit of, you know, pull side and air pull numbers into all of this as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So Dodgers are one for sure, and I think the Tigers, the Giants, and the Twins, actually, all teams that I would call out is, you know, really strong performers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the twins are one that do jump out here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, we do want to point out, this is where we're talking about hitting here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're talking about the picture, batter, interaction, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is not fielding, this is not base-fronting, it's not athleticism, this is purely looking at hitters.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the twins stand out, they're number five on this list.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the thing that just really jumps out with them is it's their ability to make contact and their ability hit them all hard, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is something that, if you look at the twins in recent years, I know that this was a terrible season

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[SPEAKER_02]: the trade-off at the deadline.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They really fell off the cliff after that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But when you look at them developing hitters, you look at a loop-key show this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You look at actually the development of Austin Martin in the second half when they gave him more playing time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, a brook's Lee, Bois Lewis, not that long ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is an organization that has produced hitters in recent years, and we are seeing it also still in the minor league level.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Look at a Kaelan call pepper and you look at someone like, you know, guess we got coming up, Brandon Linnaker.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is an organization that has guys who hit them a hard and who generally do a pretty good job of making contact to go with that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One other team, if I could bring up, we just mentioned a little bit you see it on there, the Giants.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say that the teams in the top five here and you look at what recently they produced, I would say that the Giants are one that really does stand out, that the Giants are one that I would say is maybe a little bit surprising, but I would say a lot of that is to kind of keep an eye on what they're doing, especially in the lower levels.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We keep talking about this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to keep talking about this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jost Morgan's always, obviously, is the preeminent guy in this, Johnny level, there are others.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say that the giants lower level prospects, there's something kind of interesting, brewing there, they're far away, there's a lot of risk when you talk about prospects who have yet to, in some cases, make it to full season ball, but in some other cases have definitely not made it out of low-way yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You put that all together, though, and there's something interesting, you've seen the rest is, see that the data is already picking that up, and we'll see kind of how that develops in 2026 and beyond.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm excited for later in the show.

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[SPEAKER_04]: when we look at the picture rankings and dive into that conversation, you'll see some similarities.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So many differences in terms of teams towards the top, but one that certainly stands out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Mitchell, when do mechanical and Clark make their debut next season for the Tigers?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Any chance Rainer can make a Griffin-like jump next season if fully healthy JJ, what do you think?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say they're both on the same development path, but I would say that the gonagal probably before Clark, just because as the team is at least currently constructed, there's more opportunity there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Clark can play in a corner, but you do have Riley Green,

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[SPEAKER_02]: You do have Carrie Carpenter who you probably want to at least be somewhat part of that outfield mix.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You look at McGonagall and right now you say, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: is have your, I don't think the gonnacles are short stop.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the key part here is is that, but I do think he could be their best second base been pretty quickly next year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a team that has a lot of, a second base been who are really kind of solid defensively anchon hit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have a little bit of the guys who can hit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Aren't so great defensively in vice versa.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think he's the first of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Clark, if there's an injury, he could be ready

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[SPEAKER_02]: almost a day one, but if not, it's kind of probably more of a later in the season kind of thing for him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then with Bryce, I think that's a great question.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I ask, no, I don't think you can make a Griffin like jump next year because Connor Griffin just made one of the, you see a jump like that once every five years, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's hard to say that another guy's going to do that, but it is worth noting that this was the other best shortstop prospect in that draft class on the high school side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: him and, you know, you're talking about a legit top prospect, top 50 prospect in the game, had an injury last year, but coming back from that he definitely could be very much an impact prospect.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was wouldn't put him in the kind of griff, griffing category.

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[SPEAKER_04]: let's get to a short stop slash center field prospect joining us live on the show right now part of the twins organization one of their top prospects brand and winner is here brand and thank you so much for joining us today how was your season in the minors i was fun can you boys hearing just like a check yeah we got you good yeah you said great uh... it was it was good man it was uh... little chilly up and see her up as the be in the air

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[SPEAKER_05]: That was definitely something I haven't been used too so far.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like the first month and a half ago, and that, I enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We ended up doing really well, we made it to like the final championship game.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But it was a really fun year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I had a lot of fun, you know, same things every year, making a bunch of new friends.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, all the guys, but it was a really fun year for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: as people can tell from your shot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you are one of the bigger short stops in the, you know, in the minor leagues center fielder.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I gotta say also watching your defense playing some third now, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And your ability kind of go to your left and then make that throw.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that like a position that's kind of getting, are you feeling more, more comfortable there as well?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I I love their base.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I that was something like you said to be in a year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I spent maybe you know one out of ten games there and then I started playing it more often with some of our guys got pulled up and you know some stuff moved around.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I really enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: First few games were low on control, you know, like anything else, first few times were low on control.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But after that, I was like, I started seeing my name in the lineup at their base.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like this is pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like I enjoy this.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's a fun position.

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[SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot of stuff that normally happens.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Started game at third, I feel like I can use my arm a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, kind of going to my backhand side, making some quick plays, you know, there's not as much time to think so you can kind of just, you know, react side to side by really enjoy their base.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, Brendan, you know, you're out in AFL obviously a place where you can work on a lot of different stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is there a focus just in terms of a defensive position or some things at the plate that, you know, you're really trying to hone in on with this extra work.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think our, we have our chiplay coach, Danny here, who's been awesome so far.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I think our plan is really just to be as consistent as possible these next six weeks with my approach to the plate and my swing and just like, just being consistent, like working out in the cage is kind of dominating my routine every day, going in, you know, whether I feel, you know, a little tired or I feel great, like just dominating my routine.

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[SPEAKER_05]: and hitting the fastball.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think that was something that I really had gotten a little bit away from this last year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so my biggest thing is I just want to dominate fastball and have just these next six weeks just have a simple approach of the plate.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't have to do too much to use my power at the place.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So just

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[SPEAKER_05]: consistent just kind of like trying to keep it simple to play it and just hit it, you know, hit fast well as well.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So that's kind of the main focus these next like I get to know only four weeks, you know, this has gone by pretty fast.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So that's kind of the big folks for us.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So.

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[SPEAKER_02]: when you were at Huntington Beach, we heard about when you were a athleticism, you know, when talking to people to twins, they talk about your athleticism.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then we'd look at your family, I gotta ask you the question, like how, how do you shape up as the athlete in the family?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You've got a brother who's an all-American volleyball player, you've got a dad who was a decaffli, you've got a mom who's a herdler.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We know that where the athleticism comes from, but how do you shape up in the family athlete power rankings, do you think?

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's, you know, I'll never compare myself to my dad.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm, we're all very competitive, and my dad was an amazing, I said, uh, Renda Catfonic College was an all-american.

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[SPEAKER_05]: My brother's planned to visit one volleyball at Loyola.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and then my mom was a herlier played on the, like, the number one high school soccer team, and the country when she was younger too.

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[SPEAKER_05]: and it's just a competitive environment and I have to give credit right away to my mom she took while all us boys were very competitive growing up she knew that she had to take a step down or else the household would be like a zoo everyone going at you know I chose had to every day so I think it's it's just really fun growing up with a brother who was only a year younger than me he's huge too he's like six five you know well over 200 pounds so growing up in that environment is really competitive we all really pushed each other

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, but we just, we support each other too.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like it's very, it's supportive.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's competitive.

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[SPEAKER_05]: My dad has always been really hard on me and my brother.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think that was a really good thing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, grown up sometimes I was like, dang, dad like that's it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: All right, let's, you know, it's a little bit like I just went, you know, four for four with two pumps in my little league game.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And he, you know, he's worried about getting back to work.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The next 10 years old, I just want to grab my ramen noodles with my food ticket I just got.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's like, good back in the cage, just in that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I, uh, it's been a really competitive environment, but it's been the best thing for me, my brother, and I think it's really helped like push us, you know, having that competitive family.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So you mentioned the early success, the, the four for four with two homers, but obviously, yeah, you were balling when you were a kid, where their other sports too, or was baseball quickly the one.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I still enjoyed playing a lot of other sports, but going

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[SPEAKER_05]: played a little bit of football, basketball, soccer, ranchrack and field, volleyball, I did just about everything.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then once I got in the high school, you know, I think it was a conversation that happened to my parents.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It was like, hey, like, you know, this is my dad was like, hey, man, like, I always, I was a baseball most, I've always been a huge fan of the sport.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Ever since I was a little kid, love watching a little planet, you know, I lived and breed that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And although I did love playing other sports,

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[SPEAKER_05]: I knew, and my dad sort of knew like, once I fresh me in your high school, it's like, you know, that's what we're doing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I think it was, you know, looking back to you did I have wanted to maybe play a little bit of basketball and high school maybe, maybe play a little bit of, but it's like, base five, I was love it the most.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I think it helped me healthy, you know, if I had been on the basketball court and strain ankle or something like that, that could have been detrimental to base five.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think my family knew that, and I knew that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So,

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[SPEAKER_05]: Going in a high school, just about everything, and then once I got touched with you like this is what I know I have a future and you know the most and what I really want to do so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If we rest this question a couple of years ago, there have been like, oh, there are no six foot six short stops in the big leagues.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now we can say that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We got LA, we had O'Neill crews.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've got other guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But as a big guy has always been, I would imagine one of the biggest short stops around, is there any big short stop that you kind of looked at that you kind of tried to model your game after, you know, as you're growing up?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, I...

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[SPEAKER_05]: I always loved Geter.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I know he was a little bit before my time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Sort of my time grown up was like watching Korea.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, and he was a guy on the Astros who I was like, you know, that's he was one of the bigger first like short stops.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I try to model still this day like a lot of the way I field around him.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, he being a bigger guy, he uses a lot of one hand.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, you don't see him a lot.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, going getting down, using two hands every time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, he likes using one hand, using his levers, you know, using his arm.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And that's kind of like I grown up that I was like that, you know, that's a bigger short stop, you know, you can watch him do it, watch him, you know, just being an amazing player on the field.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so I kind of, I, I like to think that I tried to model my game after him a little bit playing short stop because he was one of the first, you know, before the alley in the, you know, on the old crews like it's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's, it's, it's definitely hard, but that's why I just try to be as like detail oriented as possible and make sure that my mechanics are in place, just so I can try to still stick around there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You talked about how you want to emphasize in the AFL, hitting the fastball, dominating the fastball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Take us through, you have to plate your season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like what were kind of the highs and what were some times where you're like, okay, I'm getting a little bit away from what I want to be doing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think for me being in the part of most line-ups, I get spun a lot and being a bigger guy gets spun a lot.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And it's no secret that most pitchers know I can do damage.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I start getting spun a lot.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I kind of got off the fastball, you know, I feel like my first full year is really, like I felt really good hit in the fastball.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I think I just got away from it just a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I got, like I said, I got spun a lot.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So there are certain things my swing that kind of starts slowing down a little bit, but that was something coming in here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, I know I can hit the fastball really well.

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[SPEAKER_05]: There's never been a question in my career.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like I know that when I'm, you know, dead right here sitting on a fastball, there's not much that I know that even though I'm big, I can, you know, still get into.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I love, I've always loved hitting him around so I didn't hit him a few homeruns, so I was really cool, but honestly, like, I think just, I had, I started off the season really slow and then, you know, how if you talk to their hitting guys, Thomas though, was a big, was a big deal for me.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He kind of helped me get back on track after having kind of a slow start, so I think after just slow start for like the first month and a half, I felt a lot better after that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then yeah, yeah, that's why this this following is just like a little hammered fastball and then you know I know going in next year if I if I do you know what I know I can do in a fastball and we should be pretty set so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We always have fans, you know, and viewers who are asking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's asking about your cactus heart behind you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was spending that a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because asking if you drew the cactus heart that from a host family fan art.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm gonna ask it this way also.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming that's not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if it's not, though, do you have a talent that most people don't know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's something that you're good at that, you know, the average baseball fan or even follows you may not be aware of.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so, Tan is the first question.

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[SPEAKER_05]: This is a host house.

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[SPEAKER_05]: This is an Airbnb.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I got a Billy Amick and Hunter Hoops on my roommates here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I got a room with two beds, and yeah, there's a lot of cactus art.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I grew up playing baseball on Arizona, so this is kind of an environment I'm used to a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But, no, this isn't, that wasn't me.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I could never draw something that good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It would look like a mess.

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[SPEAKER_05]: If I were trying to do something like that, art was not one of my talents growing up, still has not been.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I love playing other sports.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I can do some cool dunks.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm a good bowler.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think that's kind of random.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I can spend a ball really well.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I have my own bowling shoes.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They're American flag theme.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So that's kind of cool too.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I would say that like the biggest thing I like to do on the side that I practice a lot of bowling.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like I take a lot of pride in that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you and Mookie Bets.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if I'm going to be looking back.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I've seen that dude do some crazy things with the ball and ball.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I hope to be there one day, but that would be pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I can tell you this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: When you make it to the bigs and you see him hooking for the first time, he will be so excited if you bring that up to him because they're probably not many players who go up to him and talk about the specifics of bowling.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It sounds like you know what you're talking about.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I like it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's already the instant icebreaker for that combo.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Brandon this was great man thanks for joining us really appreciate it keep doing your thing have fun out there in Pioria have a good AFL season and we'll talk to you down the road.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you boys thank you I really appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you all right we'll be right back here on Hatchee.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's hit this week's Arena Club Slab Pack poll we open to Ruby.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We went big $250 pack.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was for you know what the nerves got me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was so exciting because the motion and weights about four or five seconds for the card to come up card that I got was over $300 a prospect from the Mariners and for me I love the card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Guess what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I sold it back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now I got a little more money and now I can go buy another one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to wait a couple minutes afterwards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the excitement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Put your money where your mouth isn't have fun with the arena club.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You can see that big smile on Todd Father's face.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Lazaro Montes, who's supposed to be good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's Facebook America.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Top three.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's in the Mariners organization.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But Todd Father sometimes thinks prospects are suspects.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Going back to the well, and we'll see what he gets next time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yes, the dodgers are at the top.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, yes, they are very good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They are very good at everything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They do everything, they do everything, they develop everything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But Jeff, I want to tee you off on a different, because yes, the dodgers, we're gonna talk about them again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I want to tee you up on the mats here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The mats are fourth here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The Marlinder one that really do jump out is an organization that's really improved.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Check out Robby Snelling, Thomas, why we could go down the list.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But Jeff, with the mats,

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[SPEAKER_02]: What is it that's kind of helped them kind of take a big step forward here in the last couple of years?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think it's just a tremendous amount of alignment between their acquisitions and their player development, and particularly on the pitching side.

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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of the folks that are involved at the top and finally pitching coordinators and strategists, and that sort of thing are all involved in these organizational conversations.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So they have a type.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And once you kind of develop a type and a style of pitcher

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[SPEAKER_03]: or traits that you can identify by using advanced metrics at the college level or the high school stuff at some of these tournaments or individual throwing sessions and workouts and all sorts of stuff the teams do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can then identify the types of players you want to go after.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The meds have done a tremendous job of identifying a lot of really interesting calls.

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[SPEAKER_03]: how much pictures in the last couple of years, guys like Will Watson, Brandon Sprodo, of course, Nolan McLean, Zach Thornton's another one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Jack Wendinger, who's another guy who really had some great performances down the stretch for Binghamton when they won the Eastern League Championship.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think you look at all these different names.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of interesting guys, even beyond the names of the Metz, that were at the Major League level,

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a whole host of other names kind of coming along in the pipeline that I think are really, really interesting and they've done a good job of targeting some of these different pitchers and then accentuating the traits that they did identify and liked.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, ultimately getting better results and guys that are, you know, potential rotation pieces for them long term.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The thing that jumps out is that they have increased their velocity, they've improved on speed, that they're one of the top organizations as far as their average Vila.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But on top of that, you see them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There are high up in breaking balls, they're high up in off speed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, you look at these teams at the top.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's generally not that they're doing one thing well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's that they're figuring out a way to do multiple things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: well here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I would also say like we're, you know, we're going to talk about it more on the base of American podcast, Prospect podcast this week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the Orioles being number two on that list, I think we'll also surprise a lot of people, probably more so than the Red Sox being tied for for forced with the Met.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The Orioles are another team to watch here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Speaking of the orals, actually, and I know he's a position player, but Enrique Bradfield Jr.

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[SPEAKER_04]: is scheduled to join us next week.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We can still ask him about his pitching teammates, I think that's a given, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: We'll take it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we can talk.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's running down pitch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's running down malls of center field for all of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They are his, he is their best friend.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we will talk to the super athletic center fielder.

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[SPEAKER_04]: the Orioles prospect next week, and thanks to Brandon Winiker for joining us.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He was fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We'll see you next week on Hachi.