Jonathan Moffett (00:00.16)
You got locked up with little snakes, big snakes, they were going in your pant leg, they were going inside your shirt. These are people's worst nightmares. I'm having flashbacks right now. Welcome Mythfits.

Jonathan Moffett (00:39.042)
You did not! Tori! Nice work. Is that going be your costume this year or is that just like something you keep in your house? Alright, welcome, my friends, to another episode of Tori being weird. Okay, if you guys are listening and not watching, Tori just jumped on in a full Michael Myers costume. I'm Kari Byron, this is Tori Buleche.

We did Mythbusters for a lot of years and now, I don't know, you guys just hit listen to us talk about memories and do dumb stuff. I know we said no costumes, but come on, it's almost Halloween. My favorite holiday. I can't it. Tick, talk. Do you have a costume idea already? Are you like settled? No, not this. mean, you know, my Michael Myers, that's my go-to, but. Yeah, I've got some of those like, I've got a whole, I've got boxes. Like I have way more Halloween boxes than I have.

Christmas boxes. Like I've whittled down my Christmas decorations, whatever. I usually don't like do Christmas at my house. I go to family's houses, but Halloween, yeah, that's a holiday for us. So I've got a lot of backup costumes, but I have been struggling this year because I don't get to do a buddy costume because my little buddy is grown up and she doesn't want to like go trick or treating or dress in the same clothes as me. Like I thought that we would do for the rest of our lives. They grow up.

They grow up and they don't wanna hang out with you anymore. know, but then when I do my- you remember when you were a kid, you didn't wanna hang out, like when you were a teenager, did you wanna hang out with your parents? Dude, I was a latchkey kid. I was going out trick or treating by like the third grade on my own, think. Exactly. I know, I know. But like I'm also, I can do a costume for myself, but when I'm given a theme, I'm going to a murder theme, like hitchcocky kind of party and everybody's gonna dress as- that's fun.

famous murderers and I, you I wanna do a movie murder because everything that I thought of in real life feels like bad taste. And I'm also going with a date. And so all of a sudden now it's like, you have to do that awkward couple's costume. And I just can't, it's like, it's twice the work because obviously I'm the one that's gonna be doing all the makeup and stuff. Cause like, I'm that one. Do you have an idea yet? I've had so many ideas. Like I was thinking maybe,

Jonathan Moffett (03:01.614)
American psycho and I could just be like a chick with a chainsaw through the middle of her and he could just be, you know, is it. How about Jack the Ripper? You could be like one of the one of the victims. One of his kills. That's past enough that I think it wouldn't be in totally bad taste. But, you know, it's like we could be Kool-Aid and Jonestown massacre. could. Too soon. I've got a million dumb ideas. I don't know. I don't know. You're going to have to wait. What are you going to do? What are your ideas? are your top 10? It's I haven't really.

It's like, I can't believe Halloween is already upon us. And I always do this. It's like, I wait till the last minute and then it's like, ah, scramble and try to find a costume. So, but the good thing is my wife usually thinks about this all year. So I'm sure she has some plans for us, which is great. Cause like last year we did a chimp crazy and I was a chimp. She was the crazy lady. You did like royal tannin bombs one year, right? Yeah. That was one of our

Best, my God. Yeah, we did Luke Wilson and Gwyneth Paltrow, the ton of bones. That was a good one. I forgot about that one. That was during COVID. And so I had like the COVID long hair. I just was like leaning to it. Wait, that was your real hair? Yeah. my God. I didn't realize. You know what's funny is when I had hair like that, people would come up and they would recognize me, but they didn't know where they recognize me from. And they'd be like, are you?

Luke Wilson? I'm like, no. I did my own buddy costume the first year that Stella didn't want to dress like me, where there's in San Francisco, there are these famous twins and they had been dressing exactly the same since like the 40s or something. And they were adorable. And they were in every iconic San Francisco picture. And they always were exactly the same outfits and they looked the same. And I think they used to be dancers or something, but they lived.

into like their 90s or something, still doing this stick, you know, where they wore the same outfit. So I did a mashup of the famous San Francisco twins and the really old cult classic that barely anybody's seen, Basket Case. Because Basket Case is about twins, one of them, conjoined twins, one of them that just starts.

Jonathan Moffett (05:25.388)
growing out of a dude, right? All of a sudden there's little eyes and he grows and grows and grows until like he's almost a full body. And then like he gets cut off of his host brother, but he's still just like kind of an amorphous little blob with like feet, but he's also a cannibal and needs to eat. And he like attacks, he would like crawl out of night and just attack people. And it's just really awesome old bad special effects. Such a great bad movie.

Right? So I attached a basket right here. I attached a basket. had a little head that would pop up that looked like, you know, it was supposed to be my twin, but it was monstrous. And then I had a fake arm holding the basket. And then my real arm would go with a big scary. Like, I was walking around like nobody's going to get this. They're going to get that. I'm the twins, but the basket thing is going to throw everybody. Cause who's seen this movie? Nobody like this is a mashup. Nobody asked for.

And then finally one guy at the end of night was like, are you the San Francisco twins, but basket case? I almost Oh, they got it. I almost was like, you. You win a prize. You complete me. Wow. I thought you were going to go for the shining twins. That would have been my girl too. Yeah. No, too easy. I wanted it to be really, really strange. And for some reason I did a San Francisco theme for so many years. I was Carl the Fog.

I was the laughing sal that is at the museum. I don't know, was San Francisco-y. One of my favorite costumes I ever came up with, and I was like, this is kind of brilliant. was a superhero party. we, friends of ours, had a comic book company. And so every year they would throw these big, giant superhero parties. And you could come as a superhero or a villain or a sidekick.

And so I was like, what would be the lamest superhero? And I was like, a man made out of hay. Like that would be the lamest. You went as hay man? Well, no, then I was like, but what would be even more pathetic? A baby made of hay. So I built this giant, and this was on Mythbusters, because I remember in the shop on the weekend building this costume. I took a- I don't remember this at all. I had a Tyvek suit. I sprayed it with 77 spray.

Jonathan Moffett (07:42.424)
covered it with hay, right? And then I put on these, I made these big giant diapers. I had a bonnet and a bottle and a rattler. And I remember this because the glue hadn't completely dried. So I was getting high during the night from the fumes of the spray glue. But it was so funny because I would walk in and I would go up to girls and be all, hey baby. And they were like, they would go, what? And I was like, what? I'm the hay baby.

And by the end of the party, every room I would walk into, they would be like, hey, baby! my God, I'm It was like one of my best costumes I've ever come up with. That is amazing! my God! Like the girls would get all offended. I was like, no, I'm the hey baby. You were a pick-up line. You were a pick-up line.

Actually, I think it's some of those DragonCon or comic conventions. I think that actually might be a character. That might be a great pickup line. You know what, Carrie? I was looking back on episodes of Mythbusters, because I knew we were going to be talking about creepy stories, scary Or something Halloween-y, it's like, of course we are. And I didn't even remember that we did a Halloween episode of Mythbusters. Oh, yeah. You know what?

I talk about the individual myth a lot because I really remember the trauma, but I forgot that was all part of like a frightening episode. out everything else. Your memories have washed all that other stuff out because of the trauma. were some good myths on that though. Yeah. So Jamie and Adam, and it was funny because, so Jamie and Adam, started the show where Adam is dressed like a vampire and he like pops up, they're in the blueprint room, he pops up.

you know, like he's coming out of the coffin. I don't know how they did that. I was like watching him. like, like we must've had some kind of a piston or whatever that actually lifted him up. But he pops up and he's all weird, come to Mythbusters. And you could see Jamie is just like so uninterested, like not amused and just like looking at him. And he goes, where's my costume? And then Adam's like, would you wear it? He was all, Well, then that's why you don't have a costume. We don't have them for you.

Jonathan Moffett (10:01.506)
But you could just see like their dynamics where was like Adam was so into it and Jamie was just like, this is lame. Have you ever seen Jamie's famous costume? No. He the one costume that he does is so weird and awesome. think he showed this to me before Mythbusters even started. Like we were just hanging out in the shop. He he's got a bald head, obviously, and a little bit of redness to his complexion. So he would just take white

rubber bands and put them all over his face. So they like indented all over his head and he'd go as a roast beef. Is it roast beef? What's the one? It's like, what's the one that's all tied up? Is that right? That's a roast. Yeah, that's a roast. my gosh. Yeah. He goes and it would just be rubber bands on his head, but like it was kind of brilliant and it's simplicity. It uncomfortable. my God. That is genius.

I used to love having access to the shop when we would do costumes because I'd be like, I could use a vacuum form. I could make the most clever costumes. That was fun. I miss those crazy shops. I have a very vivid imagination. I, even when I was young, was so creeped, not creeped out by scary monsters as much as crazy people scare me. And I did my college film for films class on this theme.

that it was a really bad student film. And it's actually on a reel to reel, so I can't show it to you on this. I took But you still have it? I do, I do. have it somewhere. What format? Oh God, it's like eight millimeter. it's not anything great. So I know, I know. a transfer, come on. I know, I'll see if I can find it. If I watch it though, I'm gonna realize how actually bad it was. Okay. I was having a hard time coming up with something and everybody was doing those art school things where it's like,

girl on a drain track, candle blowing out sideways, you know, and I'm just like, I just want to make horror movies. So I had to take in, and my parent, was when I was living in that crappy crappy old house, and my parents didn't care if I was destroying walls. I kind of, I took and covered one whole wall over so that it was solid. And I took the back off of an easy chair and made a false back, right? So the whole idea of this scene.

Jonathan Moffett (12:21.838)
was that this girl walks into the room, she brushes her hair, she puts on her lipstick, she sits in a chair, she reads a book, she leaves. And then after she leaves, a guy crawls out from the back of the chair she'd been sitting on. This was my college boyfriend, played the scary guy. And he smelled her hair brush and stole her hair and put on her lipstick and then me, all creepy, and then pulls the dresser out from the wall and then descends into the wall. And then this was my student film and it was called Alone.

And it was like, this is something that like creeped me out this idea. But I mean, I think the movie Parasite reminded me of this and I went looking and there's actually several cases where people lived in the walls. So there was this one story of the case of Daniel Le Platt, right? So this family had believed that their house, they were just convinced that their house was haunted. The story was in.

Massachusetts and they thought it was their deceased mother because like for weeks the teenager got cryptic messages scribbled onto the wall in condiments like things were rearranged. heard noises in the walls, right? And then I wrote this down December 8th, 1986. Bowen and her family returned home to find a bone chilling site, a stranger in one of their closets with a painted face and a native American style jacket.

and a ninja mask with a hatchet in his hand. Like this guy had been living in their walls. But wait, he found him in the closet? Yeah, he was just messing with them when they were away. Oh my God. Living in their house without them knowing. Oh, that is so creepy. I mean, the...

I mean, he'd been doing it for weeks and weeks living in a crawl space. And like the story, like after they found him, he's gone, right? But he goes on to like murder a school teacher. Like he's crazy. So he wasn't just a prankster. Like he was a murderer living in their crawl space. And this is like the eighties. So they just, they were hearing this. This was at the peak of horror movies, Friday the 13th kind of movies. like, how terrifying, like things moving in your house, like you definitely feel like it was real.

Jonathan Moffett (14:37.23)
Yeah, oh my God. saw the one, there was one story of a guy who thought he couldn't figure out what was going on in his house because he would go home, he would buy all this new groceries and like the next day, you know, he'd be half gone. And he was just like, what the hell is going on? And he was asking his roommates and they were like, we're not touching your food. So this was going on for months and months. And so he finally set up a hidden camera.

in the kitchen and all of a sudden these cabinet doors, like these big giant cabinet doors close to the ceiling open up and this lady had been living in these cabinets, would crawl out, eat the food and when they would all go to work, then she would get out and like just hang out in the house. But at night when people start coming back, she would climb back into the cabinet. Truth is scarier than fiction. That must be where the movie Parasite.

got their inspiration. You know what we used to do? For my birthday, my dad, all my friends would come over to the house and we'd have a slumber party. But before we would have dinner, we'd all pile into my dad's van and he'd take us through the graveyard and we'd have like a horror tape telling scary stories.

And so we'd all get all freaked out. And then he would drop us off at one end of the cemetery. And he's like, I'll pick you guys up on the other side. no. And so we would just be like running through the graveyard, freaking ourselves out. We were already tuned up from the horror stories. And now we're just like, get to the other side. Where's the band? Where's the band? That's amazing. It was so such a great idea. Your parents, man, they are so cool. Dropping you off in graveyards. My parents never dropped me off in a graveyard.

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Jonathan Moffett (18:19.608)
You know, I remember from that Halloween episode that we did, call it, like, Fright Night or Fright episode? I don't know. But, you know, we had to do The Smell of Fear, right? And my favorite part is when you were getting scared, you said, get me out of this monkey fighting coffin. And I was like, monkey? That is the most creative way to not swear on air. That was so great. I mean, that whole episode was...

There were a lot of scary moments. Like when they filmed us all running, but in slow motion, I'm like, ew, that's what I look like running in slow motion. I needed to try hard. Like my posture was like, I was tired. like, looks so insane. But I loved, it was kind of like a torture, like the fans got to torture us again. Cause the whole myth is that when you sweat, normally you sweat a certain scent, but when you're afraid and you're sweating,

there's a pheromone that you put out that is detectable. And they think, I don't know if it's like to scare off predators, but so we were- to bring them on, because they can smell your fear. So we set out to test whether or not there was a scent that was excreted when you're afraid and sweaty. And so to Carrie's point, we had to run on a treadmill. That was our control. So we were just sweating. But we had these armpit pads.

that we stuck under there and they would just fill up with sweat and be drenched. then we we couldn't wear deodorant that day, so it was like a pure sample. So we were stanky. I just remember Grant on the treadmill and I was just like, I was like, come on, kid, you can do it. And he's all, I got this coach. It was such a fun day, but the grossest part is then we would stick these pads in these jars, seal them, and then stick them in the freezer. And that was supposed to preserve them longer.

In this episode, what we were doing was putting us in a clear coffin with different creatures. And the fans wrote in and suggested certain creepy crawlies to put us in the coffin with. And we wrote them all little pieces of paper and put them in a jar. you had to pull out and whatever the creepy crawly on the page was, that's what you were gonna be locked in a coffin with.

Jonathan Moffett (20:44.0)
And the coolest part about that whole experiment was we had this shop builder, Josh Sargent, and this guy could build anything. He built an acrylic coffin. It was a perfect, it was like one of the most beautiful props I've ever seen. Like his fabrication of it was flawless. So that way they could put all the things in there with us and you could see us reacting to all the critters that they dumped on us.

I mean, this was a very squealy episode for me. I think I was squealing and screaming the whole time. Even when you were covered in critters, I was screaming for your... Like we got, I got scorpions and Grant got rats. you got snakes and not all three of those are awful. my God. But you know was so crazy? When you got in there with the scorpions and so we had this one handler and he would, he brought all the critters.

Owen, Owen, right? Owen, yeah. So Carrie gets into this coffin and she's laying there and we all have like eye protection on and he starts dropping like 50 scorpions on top of you and they're just crawling around and they started nippling at your fingernail polish. Do remember that? Yeah, because I was, I didn't realize bright orange nail polish would also be the same color as the bugs that they eat.

Yes. So I was just inviting it. Didn't even know. But what was crazy is you were so scared, your foot started shaking uncontrollably. We were like, stop shaking your foot. You're going to get stung. And you're like, I can't control myself right now. My foot won't stop shaking. I was feeling bad for you because you were so freaked out. I mean, I remember, like, when they put the scorpions on me, they started.

I mean, it was a lot of scorpions and I could feel them on my neck and they put a lot on my face. They put one right across my face and they told me that, don't worry, they won't, they'll think they're on the ground and they won't sting you unless you move. And so I was talking like this, cause I was like, I'm not going to move my face cause I don't know where they are. And one was like right on my face. Like I could see its underbelly right on the goggles. And it was so creepy. And then I really thought I was going to get stung and seven minutes felt like

Jonathan Moffett (23:04.642)
three hours. I like, I've known you long enough where it's like, I know when you're fake scared and this was like the look on your face and the fact that your foot was shaking, I was like, she's really scared. This is not, like she's not putting on a performance. She's freaked out. And we were too. Well, yeah, cause then when I got out, like the, the animal wringer Owen, he's like, yeah, I've never seen anybody do this before. I'm like, wait, what? He's like, no, I've never done this before. mean, I've had,

I brought snakes to set, I brought all kinds of, I've never put scorpions. was wondering how this was gonna turn out. I'm like, what? That's nuts. That's crazy. Well, I'm glad. I'm glad I got to beta test scorpions for you. You're welcome. And now I know for the next job what happens. my God. But like snakes were way worse. You got locked up with little snakes, big snakes. They were going in your.

Hand leg? They were going inside your shirt? There was a moment, well it was funny re-watching it, there's Grant, so they're dumping all these small snakes and then, you know, he's putting a big giant python in there and then Grant is dumping snakes in and the glee in his face, like he looked like he was enjoying torturing me. Like it wasn't like, man, are you okay? It was like, ha

and dump some snakes on you. And when he put in that giant python, God. gosh. They closed Look on your face. terrifying. I mean, these are people's worst nightmares. I'm having flashbacks right now. That day my daughter came to set and she thought it was so funny. Like she was little, but like my husband,

at the time wanted to see me being tortured too, I guess. Because they were like, I don't believe you're doing this. This is crazy. Yeah, it was crazy. But then there was a moment where the snake started getting into my clothes. And that's when it was like, OK, like, we stop this? And there was one that had gone up my leg and they were able to pull that one out. And then there was one that had crawled into my sweatshirt, into my arm. And it was just like, how are you going to get this out?

Jonathan Moffett (25:25.646)
but they got it out in the, yeah, I still to this day, like you said, seven minutes, it felt like hours. And one of those big pythons on another episode that we did, you had it wrapped around your neck and it started getting pissed off. Oh God. Do you remember that? Yeah, so the producer was, it was like an Indiana Jones set. We had it all set up and we were testing rope. If you use rope around your tent, that'll keep a snake out of your tent.

And so the producer was like, let's do a throw for, you know, let's do a Mythbusters promo. And so the snake was like right next to my head. The handler was holding it and it was hissing. And I was like, coming up on Mythbusters. And he was all, and I'm like, I don't like this. Why is he hissing? And I was like, get this snake off me. It's irritated. So I hand the snake to the handler. As soon as he grabs it, the snake,

bites him in the hand two times and he starts gushing blood. And he's like, this never happens. it's fine. It's fine. And I'm like, dude, that would have been, he would have bit me right in my face. I mean, animals are gonna be unpredictable and you gotta be brave to be an animal handler. like, no matter what, like it's, you, the snake could have a bad day. I remember having that snake on my neck and it started wrapping around my neck. And I was like trying to,

finish my standup and somebody was taking pictures of me and I was just like, it was like getting tighter and tighter. Like, I think you need to get this off. like, it's fine. Like, it's not. it's fine. You'll be fine. It's on television. Nothing can go wrong. Nothing bad happens on television. You're gonna be fine. mean, that's okay. We learned a very important thing, which is you never tell a producer what you're afraid of because they will use it against you. And I remember we were doing

the cold feet episode, which was also about fear. when they were trying to scare you, like you're never scared. I mean, I know the snakes were bothering you, but it wasn't like, you know, we definitely all were afraid because the woman could pick our fear smell out of the samples for that episode. let's just clear that up real quick. Like, let's explain what we did. So we went into the, each of us went into the coffin with pads under our arms, sweated with fear now, right?

Jonathan Moffett (27:47.768)
So now we stuck those into jars and then we brought in a bunch of volunteers, again, these people, God love them. And we made them smell all of our armpit sweat. And to find out if they could tell a difference between sweat and fear sweat, none of them could really tell. So anyway, we brought this expert into the shop and gave her all the samples to smell. And she got like,

All of them right, except for one. I mean, it was like a crazy, it was like 80 % correct. So there was some validity to this myth. Yeah, there's a smell to fear. And also, how weird is that job? if there's a crazy job that you can think of, it exists. She's an olfaction scientist. Like, there's a science to somebody who just studies smell. That's it. I mean, there's a million weird things out there, but like, when you're a kid,

You're like, when I grow up, that's such a strange career. I felt so bad for her and I felt bad for our volunteers because we're making them smell our armpit pad saturated, you know, pads. It was so gross. And they're just like so willing to do it. Okay. A, she's like super stoked because she actually figured it out and she looks like a baller for figuring it out. And that's like what she does. So she's, she's like,

Hold my beer, I got this. Like awesome, awesome. I mean, we didn't smell like roses or maybe I did, but like she actually could figure it out, which was so cool. And B, I bet you could have sold your armpit sweat on eBay and made Maybe yours. I don't know about mine, but maybe yours. there's a market for anything. I'm telling you, that's the rule of eBay.

If you put it up there, somebody's going to buy it. swear. You may be right. may be right. so we were we were so excited that she was able to pick out some of the scent, you know, the the fear sense that we were like, let's ramp this up. Let's give her 20 samples. I think it was 20 and only one of them will have the smell of fear in it. So we're like, let's let's give her a really hard test to see if she can figure it out. I don't know how I won.

Jonathan Moffett (30:14.764)
this experiment, but now it was only me that was going to be afraid. You guys were like, okay, you know, we've already done our experiment. Now, Tori, we're gonna really freak you out. And so what you guys did is you took me to Calaveras County and there was these moaning caverns. The moaning caverns. God. So when I was a kid, we went to these moaning caverns.

And so what it is, it's this cave, you go down these stairs. So there's two ways to get into this cave. And this cave is underground, it's so big, you can fit the Statue of Liberty inside this cave, that's how deep it goes. So when we were kids, my parents took us there, and there's one way to get down, which is stairs, and you go through these really narrow walls. I was getting very claustrophobic, but then you come out onto this patio, or like a deck that looks over the cap,

But if you're adventurous, you could repel down into the cave through an opening. And that always used to freak me. Like that, just the thought of that scared me. And you guys knew that, so you're like, we're going to Moaning Caverns and we're gonna make you repel down into this cave. Because it's your one kryptonite. Your one kryptonite. You're not scared of anything. Like we did so much dumb stuff and you're like, yeah, I'll be buried alive. like heights, My hands are getting sweaty.

My hands are getting sweaty just thinking about it. There have been a couple episodes where you had to do a, it's like the one time where I feel really superior, cause like you do everything and like excel at it, but this is the one thing that I can handle. So I'm like, yeah, let's jump off the building. Go Tori. Totally. And you were like, you were, I don't know if this didn't make it into the episode, but there was one where you just went down and you were like, wee, wee, this is so fun. Like just rubbing it in my face.

And then as I'm going down, you're like rattling the rope. Like you guys were like, no, we forgot to hook in the line just to add more fear to me. Look at the glee. Like we're like, finally, Tori's afraid of something and Grant and I are like, let's not mess with them. And then there was one point where I was getting caught up in the ropes and I was just getting so frustrated and so freaked out. was like,

Jonathan Moffett (32:38.306)
You guys did well done. You freaked me out. mean, it's a it's very high up and it's a very freaky cave because it's dark and it's weird. So I guess you're never going to go rock climbing with me. Is that is that the case? That's that's safe to say. Yeah. So we took those armpit pads back to the shop. We brought her in. We had 20 jars out. All of them are regular sweat, except for my fear sweat. And she wasn't able to pick it.

Maybe you weren't that afraid. Maybe you were No, I was terrified. You guys knew it because you were like, holy crap, he's getting really upset. I know, I've never seen, like you don't get flustered generally, like no matter what happens, you're like, it's gonna be fine. But like this was the one time where you just were, you were mad, you were flustered, like your eyes were bugging out, you were swaying. if there was ever a time we were gonna get a good sample, it would have been then. got it. It would have been then, yeah.

So one of the other myths that Jamie and Adam were doing, because this, it just reminded me of this other creepy story that I found online. It was, can you transport a body? How easy is it to transport a body? Right? You see in the movies. like a dead, like dead weight. A corpse, Like being able to carry like a floppy body. Exactly. So they had this whole set up, you know, obstacle course. They went with just like a ball of chains to

weigh 150 pounds and then they moved on to a SYNDAVR. So it's a synthetic cadaver. And it looks really authentic, right? It looks like a real cadaver and they use it for science purposes. But so I was looking online. So there's a story about this guy who, he was like a wayward kid and he got sent off to some camp, boys camp to like, you know, help them get.

on the right path and the mother knew about it. The father was more involved than the mother. So the mother would like talk to him occasionally. But anyway, he dies mysteriously and they think that, you he was doing steroids, he was like working out. And so they thought, you know, it had caused some heart problem. They thought that might have been, it was like a heart attack. But when they did an autopsy, it turns out that there was cyanide in his body. And they're like, okay, that...

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This is super suspicious. He was not suicidal. So how did this cyanide get in the body? Anyway, so the mother calls the father and is like, you know, I want to see his body. And the father's like, he's already been cremated. And she's like, okay, can I get some of the ashes? He's like, no. So he was just, he was acting very weird around. Whoa, they didn't do an autopsy. They just like made an assumption. Well, they did the autopsy and found the cyanide, but then they quickly

The father had him cremated. So that, she was just like, this is so weird. And she's like, can I have some ashes? He's like, no. So the whole thing was very bizarre. So now, years later, she's in Las Vegas and she's at the Bodies Museum. Are you familiar with that, right? Nope, but it sounds pretty dark. So it's all these human bodies that have been like putting in these poses like they're playing tennis.

They've all been Oh, the plasticized bodies. Yes. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Bodies Museum, I think it's called. She walks up to this one, like, posed body, and she recognizes him as her son. Wait, they don't have skin on him or anything, do they? Well, his face is still intact. So it depends. what? Some of them, peel the faces, some of them they leave them. I mean, I'll show you a picture of what it looks like. So the face is intact, but his, you know, they...

They stripped all the skin off the rest of his body so he could see all the muscles. But she is looking at him and is like, this is my son. And yes, how creepy is that? And so she was like, can I get a DNA test of him? Like, I want to prove to everybody that this is my son. And the facility like escorted her out. There was no investigation. They're like, no, we source our bodies, you know, from volunteers. And she's like convinced.

That's my son. That's just the end of the story. Like we don't have a resolution on that. I want to know. So it gets even so this then it gets even weirder. There is how could this get weirder? Well, let me tell you, there was a pregnant lady display in this museum. And so in China, there was this newscaster who had an affair with some Chinese official. You know, he was like a mayor of some city. I don't know exactly what his status was, but he had an affair with her.

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and got her pregnant. So his wife was not happy with this. And this TV host just disappears. She just vanishes and no one knows where she is. They find out later that that woman, the pregnant woman had been made in a factory in China. That's where they make these bodies. And the owner of that factory was the wife of that mayor. wait. she took this

woman murdered her, plasticized her pregnant body and then sold it to the museum? Allegedly. I don't know. That is that crazy? Yeah. I always wondered like, if you, are you donating your bodies to science? Are you signing up ahead of time when they do this kind of thing? Cause it's, it's kind of the work of art is I kind of need to do some digging on this. It's like bodies in motion. Isn't that what it's called? Yeah. Something like that.

It's creepy. I went to the one in Vegas and it's very controversial because they think a lot of the bodies come from prisoners in China. So it's like this weird, are they really volunteering their bodies or are they just, you know, taking them and using them? I mean, it was always pretty weird on MythBusters how many skulls we worked with and like we would go to the bone room and they were human skulls. You're like, where did you get these? I know.

Why can I buy this for $300? That is so strange. It's like, no, no, no. yeah, they just donated. Okay. So wrong. So wrong. Okay. I feel fully creeped out. I know, right? We've creepy, creepy stories. this is- is that? I feel very Halloween spooked out and we didn't even come to any stories where a hook is left on the window.

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There's so many weird ghost stories and mythologies around Halloween. I mean, do you remember when you were a kid, they thought there were gonna be razor blades in the apples? First of all, who's giving out apples on Halloween? I know. That's a terrible prize. That's the worst. It's like giving candy, not fruit. It's like you go to the houses with the raisins or like the toothbrushes. The raisins are the worst. They're like, they're healthy snacks. yeah, no, I'm gonna skip your house. I'm gonna go to the rich people's neighborhood where they have full candy bars.

Okay. So the apple razor myth, I mean, I heard that all the way to the time I was a kid turns out. Yeah, totally. Myth busted that there was never razor blade or sewing needle ever found in an apple or candy bar. But the police used to like, I think it was in the fifties used to stage photos of that. So they could try to warn parents because if you, if you saw it paper, it must be true. I mean, it would be so obvious. You would like look at the apple and there'd be a giant slice in it or a little slice even.

You'd be like, I'm not eating that. the hell's in Besides, no kid is eating an apple on Halloween if you've got candy. Wait a minute. That's not true. That's not true? We used to play dunking for apples. You ever play that game? You get like a big tub of water and you put apples and you have to dunk your head in and bite the apple. never played that? No, no. Never did that because I would have messed up my Halloween makeup.

Never wanna mess up my makeup. We did the thing where you blindfold yourself and then you had peeled grapes and they felt like eyeballs or like you have to stick your hand in the box and feel around and guess what it is? Is it drains or is it noodles? Oh, do you ever play Bloody Mary? Oh, oh, where, oh my God, this used to scare me so much. I think in the fourth grade, Amanda Friel, her big sister made me go into the bathroom cause she was like,

you have to do it. I don't know, she was older and scarier. like I had to look in the mirror, say Bloody Mary three times and then Bloody Mary was gonna show up in the mirror. And I remember saying it three times and just like closing my eyes. I couldn't do it. But she locked me in there. She locked me in there until I did it. The way we used to do it was you would go into a dark room with another person and then you would look at it, you would close your eyes.

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face each other and you would both say it and you it's supposed to be when you open your eyes that person's face transforms into Bloody Mary. I remember we did it and we had fake blood so we went in with my cousin. Of course you She closed her eyes and we put fake blood all you know I had blood dripping down my eyes and it was like Bloody Mary, Bloody Mary, Bloody Mary and then she opened she was like. Oh my god your family is so fun. I want I wish I was your cousin that would have been.

Amazing. What other Halloween myths were there? Okay, so there was, I mean, there's always something about like some sort of tainted candy, but there was one about temporary tattoos that had LSD on them. I remember that. We're like, have you put on that temporary tattoo? So you're like, I'm scared of using the tattoos. Cause you know, drug dealers just love to give away their product. Yeah, they just love wasting their product on kids.

That never actually happened. None of those temporary tattoos. At least there were no reported cases of kids tripping out on LSD because they had a temporary tattoo. I had a friend one time, he thought he was roofied. We went to a bar and like the next day he was like, I think I got roofied last night. I don't remember after leaving the bar and we're all like, dude, nobody wasted a roofie on you. You're tripping. I think I got roofied. No.

You definitely did. No, you definitely did. Do you remember backmasking in songs? You mean when you played the song backwards? Yeah, when I was in, like going to Catechism, they, were like, the church was like all warning all of the parents, you know, watch out for these songs. Cause if you play them backwards, they have like evil messages or

bad messages and so I remember- yeah, the devil plays music. love it. Yeah, it's that devil music, that rock Or it's like trying to corrupt your kids, but it was funny because it's like who's playing the songs backwards. But I do remember another one, Bites the Dust by Queen. Do you remember that one? Shut up. I gotta find this one because it's so funny.

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You hear Is he saying smoke marijuana? It's fun to smoke marijuana.

really says that. It's fun to smoke marijuana. I mean, some people think it's That's real. Yeah, it is fun. I mean, you know, if you're into that, it could be fun to smoke marijuana. I mean, how many people are playing records backwards looking for messages? I think the Beatles did one on purpose, right? Yeah, the Beatles did one. Stairway to Heaven, think that's another one. Oh, man. Back before the internet and we had to entertain ourselves playing records backwards. He could find the messages from...

That's awesome. All right, Tori, it's the end of the show. I know this is our favorite topic, but it's the end of the show. So it is time to take a fan question. And we did get a video question. came from Robert on Instagram. You ready? Hey, Mythfits. This is Robert from Madison, Wisconsin. Just wondering, is there any myth that, whether confirmed or busted, that fans just refuse to believe?

Personally, I... the car on the edge of a cliff, if a bird lands on the hood, I still think that could happen. You did nothing wrong with the testing. It was perfect. You couldn't have done anything better. I still think there's a sweet spot where it could happen, like a one in a million thing.

I'm just curious if anyone else had those. Dude, thank you Robert. you Robert. Oh my God. That's a great That was awesome. Okay, yeah, there were a few myths that fans refused to believe. They're like, I've definitely seen this one was splitting an arrow. We revisited that. the infamous one. So many times because they believe that you shoot an arrow and then I think it was an arrow Flynn myth and then he'd shoot an arrow into that arrow and it split perfectly in half and we got

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We tried it in so many different ways. We even went to a Ren Fair and had to dress up. my God. And Ren Fair costumes. forgot about that. my God, what a goofy day. Like everybody doesn't break character. Do you remember this? I'd be like, we were in our, we were already in the outfits and I'm like, I gotta go to the bathroom. Where's the bathroom? And they're like, bathroom? What is this bathroom you speak of? to tell, my lady. What is a bathroom?

You're killing me, buddy. I gotta find the ba- I don't know how to say this in Ren Faire. Somebody translate for me. Yeah, I remember I was, yeah, I was talking to one dude and I was like, so like, what do you do for work outside of this? Pray tell my lord, what is this? I am a blacksmith. That is my job. I'm like, you don't have a lot of friends, You're like, dude, you're wearing Nikes. Come on. Or the helicopter went overhead and they all would like run for cover and go-

Yeah, it was They got into it. That was pretty funny. The splitting an arrow, that myth came back and back and back. Yeah, I think we retested it. I think we tested it and then retested it two more times. Yeah. And it was finally, we came to the conclusion that in the movie, it was Robin Hood, that they were using a bamboo shoot and that's why it's split perfectly. like with a wooden arrow or yeah, with an aluminum arrow, you can actually, you know,

another arrow can jam down another arrow, but to split perfectly like in the movie, you can't do it with a wood arrow. I mean, we got to a couple of times where it was like, okay, this is good enough. Are you guys happy? Like, yeah, we get split-ish. Split-ish, plausible. Split perfect, bust it still. No. I like his idea about retesting the balanced car on Because that was fun. Yeah. I mean, what if you dropped an ostrich?

What if an off-street's jumped on the front? That would definitely sit it over the edge, wouldn't it? I mean, maybe we just needed a bigger sample size and just keep crashing cars all day long. New Mexico Tech would be down for that. They were always down for whatever nonsense we came up with. Like, yeah, can we take a car, balance it on a cliff on your campus, and just keep throwing birds on it till it falls? Remember I made a robot turkey? my god, that thing was disgusting. It was so hard.

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hot in New Mexico and it was like browning in the sun. It was just disgusting. have video of it just going, little gross wings. I had like these little actuators that I like strapped to the back of the turkey. It was like a Thanksgiving turkey. It was just cleaned and so we thawed it out. I attached these little actuators on its arms and then I recorded a horrible like, but I just remember when we pulled it out, you're like,

my God, is that a robot? Did you make a turkey robot? It was so weird. Grant's like, that's not a robot, that's a puppet. I remember he was like, that is not a robot. That is a puppet. He was a purist, that man. Sweet Grant, he was such a purist, that is not a robot. Robert, thank you for that question. It was perfect. Please keep sending those video questions in. We love them.

Carrie, this has been so much fun talking about Halloween. I know. We don't have a guest today. It's just you and me just, you know, wax and poetic on the old days. I can't wait to see what your costume is. Yeah. Send me a picture, post it if you can. And hey, hey, you guys out there, if you've got a fun Halloween costume, say you want to dress up as Tori Bellagy for MythBusters. Tag the Myth Fits podcast. You might get to see it here. Watch like.

follow, subscribe, do all the things so we can keep coming back here every single week and be us in together. Cause this is like my favorite day of the week. Awesome. Yes. Thanks guys. Stay spooky. All right. All right. Tori's got his Michael Myers mask back on. He's back out there to stay weird and terrorize the public. Stay weird, Mythfits. Or stay spooky. You're actually going to go, you're actually leaving with your knife. Mythfits out.

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pioneer.