Can you do your Steve Blue's Clues and just ask, Hey Mythfits, how you doing?
Hey, Mythfits, it's you. Oh, it's awesome.
It's great to see you. How are you? How you doing? Dude, I just got chills.
Nailed it. Welcome, Mythfits.
Oh, Carrie. Hi, how are you?
You want to start like that? Yeah, what's up, Carrie? Welcome back, MythFits.
Hey there, MythFits. It's Carrie Byron and Tori Willace.
We were MythBusters, and we're best friends. There's your show.
Speaking of MythBusters and speaking of myths, do you remember when we were
working on the show, somebody came in and they were like, did you hear Chuck Norris died?
Oh we were like i don't know i
didn't hear that with chuck norris because it was like the it was
like the punchline of every joke yeah it was like he doesn't do push-ups he
pushes the earth down yeah um and so we went online and we're searching searching
searching and we could not find where chuck norris was dead but everybody was
saying oh yeah chuck norris is it and it turned out it was an urban legend he
hadn't died he's still alive actually,
Yeah, actually, so there's another urban legend just like that that kind of
leads into our guest today.
Let's roll this clip. Hi. You got a second?
Okay. You remember how when we were younger, we used to run around and hang
out with Blue and find clues and talk to Mr.
Salt and freak out about the mail and do all the fun stuff. And then one day
I was like, oh, hey, guess what? Big news. I'm leaving.
This is my brother Joe. He's your new best friend. And then I got on a bus and
I left. And we didn't see each other for like a really long time.
Can we just talk about that?
Great. Uh, dude, that's... Yeah, okay. It's Steve from Blue's Clues.
Steve from Blue's Clues. at some point
uh when we first started launching this podcast
you know i was looking at the people because you know i was seeing new followers
and i saw steve burns and i was like wait is that steve from blues clothes he
follows us is steve from blues who's a myth buster fan and i just started DMing him.
I was like, started stalking him.
Like it's it's an urban legend how he left that show.
And I just I figured he could come and talk to us.
You know, Carrie, there are a lot of myths about Steve Burns,
including one that he's dead.
Well, I guess we can bust that one right away. Let's go ask him if he's dead. Steve!
Steve Burns from Blue's Clues. Are you alive?
No. I am still alive.
And I'm so psyched to be here. Oh, we are so excited you're here. It is so nice to me.
Like, seriously, you're like the next generation Pee-wee Herman.
Or Mr. Rogers. You're such an iconic character for so many generations.
Oh, well, I don't know about all that.
If that is true, it doesn't feel that way.
Um, but especially with the Fred Rogers thing, um, I absolutely accept that
for the praise that it is.
It's difficult to, um, conceive of higher praise than that in,
in many ways, but holy crap, it ain't true. I am nothing like Mr. Rogers.
I mean, that guy was like a bodhisattva who should probably be on our money.
And I was just a neurotic, bald guy who fell backwards into a weird job.
Nah, quite honestly, we just listened to this one clip that you put out recently
where you were talking to the camera like you used to talk to on Blue's Clues,
where you were like, how are you guys doing?
And I was checking the internet.
Millennials lost their minds
like your calming voice was such a part
of their childhood like you were coming into their living rooms you
were you were dealing with their feelings on such a base level that that coming
into their lives now you're sort of resurfacing into their lives had had millennials
crying yeah weird right i think there is a thing um um.
Where there's special access granted when you're like crisscross applesauce,
like when your grandma's carpet, you know,
having a juice box, watching TV, whatever that thing is, is able to speak to
you as an adult from a place of joy from your childhood in a way.
And I think if Grover would send a message and I felt, and I took it personally, I'd weep for sure.
You know, because I have those things from my childhood too.
But, um, the, the idea that I might be that thing for someone else's childhood
is really, frankly, not something I've ever been able to get my arms around
in a meaningful way, but, but it's cool. Think about it.
Most kids TV talks to the camera, you know?
I mean, that's, that's a trope of children's television, right?
I think what we did that was different is that we
listened to it yeah you know and uh
it was always kind of a magic trick to do
that and uh and no
one and you know when i was that was always like
something i did on my own in in secret
in a way because i was mostly
working with child development specialists like there really
weren't like acty people around i
was kind of the only person who spoke that language at all and i
was i don't know 21 22 years old so i didn't
know what i was doing you know and um but
i took that part incredibly serious like that to
me when i remember blues blues that was the
whole job was was you and
i yeah you know like that was that was
it because nothing else was there you guys understand this better than almost
anybody else you're vfx people or uh sfx boy and like you understand what it
is to be on a blue screen and uh there was nothing there i was in like i was
in a void and the only the only thing i had.
Was the camera yeah and so blues clues felt like incredibly small and incredibly
personal to me it was it was this thing i did with the camera who was you.
You know, so I think that that translated. Your voice is freaking hypnotic.
I have noticed since we've gotten on this podcast, Tori and I are big, fast, loud talkers.
Even introducing you, just knowing you were here, I feel like I went a little zen.
Like I feel calmer talking to you. I am talking slower.
I definitely noticed a shift in Mythbusters. And I appreciate that.
I definitely noticed a shift in mythbusters when we first started
the show we talked off screen to
a producer who was over to the side of camera oh yeah
the minute that we looked into the camera
and we started presenting to the audience
the show's popularity escalate a
connection happened between us and the audience where they
felt like we were talking to them we were in their living
room every week like our celebrity all of a
sudden just started to rise because we stopped
being you know just just background but actually
being interactive and i think maybe that that's the power that you have had
with making that connection with kids when they were really young well listen
you know speaking to a camera um with joy and authentic curiosity about a curriculum is hard as shit.
And you guys were great at it. That was the first thing I noticed about Mythbusters.
I was like, these guys are hard.
And these guys are really good at this. Like you were all extraordinarily good
hosts of what was essentially eventually like a science curriculum on a certain level.
And you guys were all great at it. And that was one of the things I loved about the show.
Spoiler. I loved that show. Oh, my God.
Thank you. Oh, my God. Stephen Blue's close like Mythbusters.
I was obsessed with Mythbusters. But you know, it's funny because like how,
when you were doing your show, how did they direct you?
Because with us, when we first started, we were so nervous because none of us
wanted to be, at least I didn't want to be on camera, that it was like really nerve wracking.
And so they would be like, just relax, come out of your, you know,
you're, you're have this wall up, you look scared.
And then as we got more comfortable, then they were, they would ratchet it up
and be like, all right, I do that again, but pretend like you're on crack.
Like just over the top, like just.
And so your show and the way you performed, it was so subtle and so kind of
gentle. Like what was the direction?
The first season of the show, we didn't have directors so much. Um.
There was a sense on Blue's Clues that this was an animated show with this guy sometimes. Yeah.
Right? You're that guy. And so they would have animation directors come in and
say things like, hey, man, can you do that again and move your Y axis 15 degrees
this way? I'd be like, you cannot be serious.
The thing you just said can't be real. And they were like, yeah,
that's what we need you to do. I'm like, I'm carbon-based.
Like that's not i'm not i cannot do that you know and it was all technical it was all technical so,
i would run around and talk to the soap and talk to the condiments and i would
have to get here and if i was here it was wrong right and we'd have to do it
again and this was there was no point of orientation i was on a void it was
in a void right so we were mostly just concerned with that.
And, um, the only real kind of direction I would get was happier.
You know, they would always say happier and I would be, and I would always make
the point like, no, no, we must be more Bert than Ernie.
You know, like there's, that's great.
This guy must have a human ballast. He doesn't know which of these snacks is a graham cracker.
We must make that part of his character. He's not the brightest bulb.
In the world, you know, and they would just be like, what? No, happy.
And so I would kind of sneak in all of these, all this human stuff while everyone
was checking their email.
So you were self-directing. Yeah. But eventually we all sort of got on the same page.
At first, you know, we were all kids, you know, I think our executive producer was 25.
You know, we were just kids, and they were overwhelmed with the technical aspect of everything.
We were all drowning in why are we trying to make this animated kid show on
desktop Macintosh for absolutely no money.
So Steve kind of evolved in private in a void.
And I mean that about myself, too. I mean, both of you, I guess, on some level.
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If steve burns was a mythbusters fan do you have a favorite episode that like spoke to you,
this is for my own personal i'm like steve from floof school's watched
us is there you know i just talked to adam on uh on my on my podcast um and
i try not to talk about mythbusters at all i was like i want to talk to you
about the future of truth and the importance of critical thinking and the difference
between falsifiability and plausibility.
But I didn't. I just talked about Mythbusters the whole time.
And I know this wasn't a segment you guys did, but I thought Lead Balloon was
one of the most beautiful moments of television.
Not only was it just a beautiful endeavor, but the object that they made should
have been in the Whitney.
Like that thing was gorgeous and
it was just sort of a distillation of the show like um
here's an adage that we we assume truth
about right but but with with
joy and curiosity and scrutiny
we're going to see if it's real you
know just pure process the process of
trying to figure that out and the whole journey of
creating this with just the scientific method
and just everything that they could pull to make it happen
was a it was a really good example and the crazy thing is is it worked like
that was you're just looking at this thing going wait a minute this does not
this is defying all logic this should not be floating i think i stood up from
my couch and applauded when it happened i was like,
Gentlemen.
Beautiful. I was very team carry in one respect.
I was very anti dead pig episodes. I was like, bro, I mean, I'm not a vegetarian
or anything, but this is a lot.
Pretty gnarly. Yeah. Like, I don't need, like, come on. I'm happy with the ballistics gel.
I don't need my analog to be this specific.
Science. We need the science. Oh, man. We were pretty anti because you have
to get rid of that pig at the end, right?
So there were several ways that we had to dispose of the pig.
One way is if it wasn't too riddled with, like, you know, lead because we shot it.
Jamie, if he was able, would butcher it and consume the meat and hand the meat to everybody.
Yeah, we'd make pulled pork. We'd take it home and make pulled pork and then
bring it back in. Someone gave me... Everybody like I was at my my husband ate meat at the time.
So he they gave me a big package to bring home. But to prank me,
they put like, like an eye and an ear on the top of it.
So when I opened it up, I was just ruined.
That's horrifying. Yeah, it was pretty bad. Behind the scenes madness.
We also had to sometimes take it to the rendering plant, which was near the shop.
And Tori and I remember one time where we drove this pig carcass to the rendering plant.
And the smell, it permeates every pore. And it's like an oil in the air.
So it gets in your nose and it gets in your hair.
Like my clothes, I wanted to burn. because we walked away in for the rest of
the day. I'm like, I still smell it. I still smell that.
So Steve, I feel like one of the biggest myths about you is why you left the show.
Can you expound on what is the real reason?
Actually, let's go through these myths and you can tell us if they are busted
or confirmed. Okay, first myth.
Are you dead? Plausible.
From the beyond did you overdose busted well i guess it's not busted it's not
even plausible busted did you die in a car wreck uh busted did you leave to pursue education,
Plausible. Did you leave because you weren't getting any residuals from reruns?
Plausible. That might be plausible to confirm.
Did you leave because you were losing your hair? Confirmed. That was a huge part of it.
I mean, you only have to look at the pants that they decided I should wear to
know how bad the wig would have been.
You know blues blues
was great in a in in i cherish it's
the best thing that ever happened obviously there was not a
lot of public dignity involved and um and you got to keep in mind you know like
it was going real fast and then there was the this thing yeah and there was
a day when And I was just kind of standing there in my dressing room with the shirt on.
And the makeup artist was like.
This spray painting the back of my head. And I was like, we're done.
We're done. This is a good time. So you didn't leave because the green polo
shirt was uncomfortable. It was very uncomfortable.
It was, again, I'm talking to people who understand TV stuff.
So it wasn't just like an off the rack cop shirt because of the amount of light
we had to use because we were doing chroma key as cheap as possible the way
to do that is to over light everything and.
Every color looked terrible so we
had to have these hyper dyed each one of those shirts
was handmade and they were wool
and they it was like a
hair shirt those shirts were extremely comfortable they were just like oh god
come on so but that's not why i left you know the um the real real is that uh
the entire time i was on blues clues i was also dealing with
undiagnosed severe clinical depression which made
my job wicked hard um and
i didn't have any idea what was
going on with me because i was a kid you know
how old were you at this time i was like by
the time i left the show i guess i was 28 29 years old okay and uh i didn't
know what was up i just knew that it was hard to be happy that which is what
they kept telling me to be you know um,
and i got there most days and i was able to find that sense of wonder being
so young i didn't really have any replenishment strategy for the well i kept
going to you know by the time i left that show i was noticing it in my performance and uh,
And I was just struggling to do my job. That hits me.
I'm feeling like tears for you right now.
Because to be honest, during Mythbusters, I was having the same problem.
I had some really bad depression.
And I remember, especially after I had my baby, I had really bad postpartum
for a while. and the dissidence of showing up on screen and being like,
oh my gosh, everything's great. I'm so excited to be here.
But on the inside, just feeling black.
You know, like I would, I remember the camera would go off. Sometimes I would
just stop my car and sit in a field and cry because I couldn't figure out like
how to deal with what seemed like the best days of my life.
Like if I'm not happy when I'm on a hit TV show, like
there's something wrong and it was almost like Mythbusters showed
me that I had depression because if things were going so well
and I still felt this random sadness there was nothing to blame
it on and that distance is what actually got me to go figure out how to get
some help for that amen sister I mean I relate to everything you just said word
for word and that there is a dissonance that creates enough relief between creates
enough contrast that it at least it was also in my life very instructive.
I thought, wow, something must be going on. Yeah.
Because, yeah, my job is hard, but I've got a good thing going,
you know, and a lot of responsibility.
And my reaction to that, I don't know what you did, but my reaction to that was just to fight.
You know, I thought, you know, I'm just going to fight this, fight through this.
But I always say you don't fight depression, you collect it. Yeah. Right.
And it just got so incredibly heavy. But very few people understand what you
just outlined, which is, you know, I think a lot of people understand depression.
And I think most people do, honestly. And I think a lot of people understand
the ask to be not depressed professionally while you're still feeling that way
or at home with your family or with your friends.
I think very few people understand the job of being the happiest people in North
America on days when you don't even have your own approval.
You know i mean it's everybody's a lot
of people's jobs are hard that was the way in which our job was particularly
tough you know and um i wasn't
dealing with it in any meaningful way and it
just became a little heavier than
i could lift you know i couldn't do both at the same time by
the end of that show and that's that was the reason that you
was that the reason that you decided to leave
was the mental health ultimately yeah i
was like you know what this is this is diminishing returns at
this point and uh you know
i didn't i didn't have the language then to
know what was going on and i
didn't leave and say i'm doing this for my mental health i
just knew that what i was doing was unsustainable and there was something else
going on the whole time i was an urban legend i was a myth during that time
as you guys mentioned um everyone thought i'd die.
And there was a persistent sort of indelible internet rumor that I was dead.
And we couldn't bust that myth. That's, you know, I would, I would go on TV.
I was making new television all the time. And yet everyone thought I was dead.
After enough years of that, it feels like a preference in a way,
you know, it's like, wow, this sucks.
And it's not great when you're
you know severely depressed and in the world tells you
that you're dead yeah you know what i mean and that's one
of the reasons i loved your show was because
you guys felt like a rescue team to me i
was like what if what if like what if
tory grant and and carrie showed up with like an ekg like
we could bust this it's
right here and now guys we could bring you back in the dead we
could do it like oh no his vitals are fine carrie
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What's what's the craziest child interaction like
fan interaction you've ever had oh it's gonna tug your
heartstrings oh i love it bring it
um i'll see if i can get through one one
thing i'm not enjoying about being present on
the internet and podcasting is i cry a lot which
is insane because that's not me but it feels
like on every other podcast i weep so i'm gonna try to get through this one
without crying i was doing a fan convention in pittsburgh and
uh this dude came up he's in his 30s or
whatever he's like hey man i was like hey and
i'm signing a picture he's like do you remember me i'm like i don't i'm
sorry and uh he showed
me a picture i'm like wait a minute he was
a make-a-wish kid oh i did
remember now you're gonna make me cry and i
just gave him hug and he
said hey man we made it oh my
god and uh
that's my favorite
interaction i've ever had maybe with anyone oh that's awesome man that is if
i could hug you right now he was sick oh my god that's amazing that's the best
one i got tori look at that He's not easy to make cry.
He used to have, you know, part of the Make-A-Wish, they would bring a group
of kids who were terminally ill through the shop, and it was just like...
This might be the last time we see these kids. Like, I don't know if they're
going to make it. And just to hear that story is awesome.
You know who was really, really good in these situations? Grant.
Grant, when any kid would walk into
the shop, instantly tapped into their curiosity and their fascination.
And he would guide them through just a moment of excitement through everything
that he was excited about, showing him robots and tools and whatever.
And like anytime a kid came to the shop, he just lit up.
And then after Mythbusters, he made a little robotic Baby Yoda and would take
it to the children's hospitals.
Grant was so good with kids. I always wanted him to end up having a kid someday. I could see that.
I can see that being real. He had such a sweet soul that came through for sure.
Did you get a picture with that kid that made it? Yeah.
Oh, yeah. That's so odd. That is such, like, what a great re-meeting. I just, I love that.
Insane, right? And I have another question. Yeah.
What's it like you guys graduated from some weird university by the end of that series?
You guys were so jealous.
They're like weapons experts. They're stunt drivers now.
They can fabricate literally anything. You guys left that show with actual superpowers.
Do you use all that stuff now in your lives? Occasionally, but only for people
employ us to be like ex-mythbusters.
So recently, I worked with a flamethrower that was not stock that had to be
rigged up to, I think it started at 200 PSI so that I could shoot flames through
a wall and try to destroy that wall.
So like I did get to walk on set and be like, oh, yeah, OK, so what kind of
kickback does that have?
OK, so is that would that be like a 50 cow kind of pushing on you or is this
more going to be like a fire hose?
Like like there was these skills that I came with.
The guys on set were like, wow, OK, most people aren't prepared for this kind of conversation.
So we we have them, but like we can't put them on a resume because we are qualified for no actual job.
Right okay that that makes sense um and i have a four-year-old daughter so all
the skills i have are completely useless i cannot it's like sometimes trying to reach her it's like,
i've done all these things and i have no skills for this no you know what you
have skills for is you know what that kid is going to be up to because you done
it all that's true that's true.
Um, I mean, I'm, I've always been curious, like, what are, what are the ones you guys loved?
You know, what are the, what are the myths you had the most fun?
You know what I didn't like? You know what I got sick of?
Blowing stuff up i was like sure that is fun and
i always like that but that's not the most interesting thing
these guys do right you know that is not the
most interesting it was a fallback it was like uh we don't
know what to do then we're gonna do this it's gonna be a
crowd pleaser it's a way to end with a
bang as they say for sure yeah yeah yeah you're right
it's it was the ones that were unexpected like uh a
bull in a china shop similar to the lead balloon
it was like okay bull in china shop it's somebody who's
super clumsy and is breaking everything we set that up
and those bulls were the most graceful creatures we'd ever seen and they were
so self aware and they knew exactly where their body was and they were just
weaving right through the shelves of china that we set up it was like whoa this
is unexpected that was such a crazy result right you set up all these things
with like the most fragile objects in the world and the bulls are like.
Pardon me. Excuse me. Pardon me. Exactly. Oh, sorry. So sorry. Coming through.
Yeah, that was wild, that one. The ones where we did really big builds that
actually worked, where the three of us, because for me, my favorite ones were
when the three of us were like,
yeah, and like we were all hugging and like we had gone through this whole journey
and we trauma bonded over making something work.
And then it actually comes off or, you know, it does what it's supposed to do
or it does completely what it's not supposed to do where we're just laughing our butts off.
Because for me, it was like the family aspect of us, like all kind of working
on it together because it was it was the cameramen and the sound recorders and
anybody who was on the shoot. Like, it's not a union show.
So everybody would kind of join in. Like, maybe somebody helped us build.
Maybe, you know, like we would all just kind of celebrate together.
So I don't even know if those moments even made it on screen,
but it was those giggly family moments that were the best for me.
Like I was we talked about this recently, but we did one where a car was being
dropped from a helicopter and one was remote control racing across the desert.
And it was, you know, to see if they would hit the X at the same time.
But it was the coordination of remote controlling a car and dropping it just
the right time and all the math that had to go right and being out in the elements.
And when it finally went off, the three of us.
You know, two, I mean, we got all of our helicopters, we all ran towards each
other in the crash cars and we were jumping in a circle,
hugging and laughing and just like the joy of accomplishing something so weird,
but like it actually working was just like,
I will take that moment where we were, it was, we were tapping into that joy that you have as a kid.
When it's just like, yes, this is awesome.
And that came through too, Gary, you know, like,
There was a lot of joy in that show, and it was this great mix of joy and rigorous effort.
It just seemed like a good prescription for how to deal with anything.
Here's a question I've always had. Do you guys really believe that duct tape
is some sort of sacred material, or did you kind of hate duct tape by the end
of it? Because I always sensed, like, these people are sick of duct tape.
They are very tired of ripping duct tape and holding duct tape and duct taping things.
It wrecks your hands and stuff. And the stickiness, there's residue that's really,
really annoying. But...
I have a roll in the trunk of my car, and I swear to God, it has saved so many,
like, it's definitely saved a couple hoopties that we've had where we had to,
like, tape a bumper back on that fell off.
I've helped strangers with this sort of thing.
But the best was we had to get down a mountain and they were requiring chains
and our chains broke and because they were old and crappy and rusted and wouldn't
work, but they wouldn't let us drive without them.
So temporarily duct tape doesn't usually work very good in water, but just to get through,
we fixed our snow chains with a just a shit ton of duct tape holding part of
it and made it through the section that they were making us use them just far
enough that we could get those chains off.
And it was because my mom had duct tape in her purse.
And I was like, what the heck do you have duct tape?
I mean, she has the miracle Mary Poppins mom purse that has everything from
like Tupperware to a wet cloth and a baggie because it was before wet wipes.
But she's like, well, because on Mythbusters, you always have duct tape so i
just figured it's something i should have.
You know uh it really was impressive by the end of that series was like they
they made all they did all of
that that happened that is an impressive material it's boats it's planes,
it's uh i mean they really did do all that stuff um how long did it take,
for example, to make a robot that throws a thing.
Like, was that like, because sometimes Grant would make a robot and it was like,
either that existed in Adam's, in Jamie's studio mostly, or that took four months to make that.
You know, like, was it really as simple as like this servo motor plus this thing,
plus I know how to do all of this. You know, it's interesting.
It would depend on the machine. Like if their, Grant was very protective.
Like he didn't like he didn't like our help.
But when it was getting to a point where it was like, we got to get this thing
done by tomorrow to start testing, then we would all jump on and just all hands
on deck to get things done.
But yes, we would cannibalize old machines that we'd made for other myths because,
you know, the gears would already be together.
Or we figured out that a face slapping robot could also be a sword swinging
robot, which could also be a baseball throwing robot. So it definitely cannibalized
from each. We recycled. Nothing ever got thrown away.
Jamie's and Adam's shop was the same way. Except for the pigs. We threw the pigs away.
Robots never got thrown away. And Grant was also, on his own time,
making a lot of robots for fun that did weird stuff. So he had a lot of the
stuff just kind of sitting half built in boxes.
So it went a lot faster than you think it would.
Like, we were very autonomous. So Jamie and Adam had their stuff,
but they had some weird stuff. We had our stuff.
We had some weird stuff, so we would go back and forth and we couldn't find things.
But honestly, a lot of these were just simple, but also resourced from just
being complete hoarders over the years.
That sword-swinging robot was one that scared me. Oh, it scared all of us.
I was like, that's not, they just shouldn't do that. No. This is ill-advised.
They should not be doing this. And sometimes you guys would fill some canister,
some PVC pipe, some something with way too many PSIs.
And I was like, this is, I love this show, but is this going to end in tragedy someday?
Like what are they lucky? Nobody died. Right. Yeah. Like something had to like
that sword swinging robot was like.
Terrifying. Still is. Yeah.
Legitimately terrifying. Yeah. And it was one of those situations where it's
like, if that quick release accidentally pops and we're standing up, like, we're all dead.
Like, there goes the build team. Why was it neck height?
Good question. Yeah. I guess my real question is, what was the paperwork like?
What sort of waiver did you guys sign to do that?
Well, sir, we had the same insurers as Jackass. We were the safe bet.
That makes sense. Well, we're all super still fascinated in you.
And, um, for all of our myth fit fans, can you tell them where we can find you in every possible way?
Uh, well, digitally, um, you can find me, uh, on YouTube with,
uh, alive with Steve Burns.
Uh, that's the podcast man.
And you can find that, um,
Uh, anywhere you can find the podcast literally anywhere that you listen to those things.
Um, and we're very excited about that podcast.
You know, it used to be shapes and colors and letters and numbers,
and this is very much death, sex and taxes.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Where we are now.
The little, a little more grown up. It is, it is, but there's enough,
there's enough of the comfort of the joy of childhood in it.
I hope that, um, It allows people to open up to these bigger subjects.
And then, I mean, I've got social media stuff. I think on TikTok,
I'm high out there. It's me, Steve.
And then on Instagram, I'm Steve Burns Alive.
I love it. We've busted that myth so hard today.
So good. It has been a pleasure meeting you and talking with you.
And it's like, I feel calmer just listening to your voice.
I'm the opposite. I'm like stoked. But I got to hang out with the Mythbusters.
Like, this is so fun for me. You have no idea.
That show was very important to me for like 10 years.
That's awesome. Like, I think I've seen every episode at least once. And that is true.
You've seen them more than I have been because I don't think I've seen every single episode.
Yeah, I'm the same way. I don't watch myself do anything. Can I ask you to do
one fan thing for me? Yes, of course.
Can you do your Steve Blue's Clues and just ask, hey Mythfits, how you doing?
Hey Mythfits, it's you. Oh, it's awesome.
It's great to see you. How are you? How you doing? How you doing?
Like that? Dude, I just got chills. Nailed it. Woo!
That was awesome. That was awesome. Oh, my God. Thank you so much. You've been so awesome.
I'm absolutely a misfit. Or at least I hope I am. You are a misfit.
You are a misfit. Oh, my God. You are. Yeah.
I mean, if misfits are your fans, I am a misfit.
We're all misfits. This is a community. It's not me and Tori. It's all of us.
It's all of the people who were a part of the Mythbuster process, community.
We've always been really really engaged with our fans we answer questions from
them constantly and we've always been on message boards having actual long conversations
with them so like you're a misfit you i gotta get on those message boards because
i am certainly a proud misfit well yeah you can always just talk you can hit us up too.
Dude this has been so much fun thank you like seriously this it's like.
I feel like my daughter would freak out if she came in here and saw you.
It's just, this is awesome.
Well, tell her I said hi and tell her Josh said hi. All right. Thanks, guys.
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That was such a special podcast just to be able to hear his journey and get
his perspective on his career and then how our show impacted him,
I'm glad you stalked him. I appreciate you. Usually I don't,
but this time I appreciate it.
Did you, do you get something like there's something special about Steve where it's,
he engages you with his voice and the way he looks into the camera in a way
that he instantly, I do feel like he's my friend.
It just felt like we've known him forever. And I don't know.
He's got something special.
There's an it factor there where it's just like, wow, I adore you.
Yeah. And you said it best when he first started talking. You're like,
normally we're like this.
And both of us kind of were like, yeah, let's take a step back.
Let's quiet our voices. I mean, he is. He has a very calming voice.
Personality and it's it's it's wonderful i'm sorry
but if the calm app or one of those like meditation apps
hasn't called him to do something i i
feel like that right there that could be his money maker because if he just
talked at night before i had to go to sleep i'd be like go to sleep by steve
burns well i was like can i get your number so like if i'm ever stressed out
i just give you a call and you just talk me down maybe just read harry potter
to me i don't know Just read a book in your Steve way.
Oh, my God. My nieces are going to freak out because they grew up on that Blue's Clues.
The first, you know, the first few seasons.
And it's just, I told my sister, or I told my mom, and my mom told my sister,
she called, oh, my God, you're going to talk to Steve Burr's?
No way. Like, she was geeking out so hard. And I'm like, whoa,
he's had such a huge impact on so many people. Just such a cool guy. Yeah.
All right. Is it time to read a fan question? It is. It is that time.
All right, Tori, we got a question here from Curtis the Supreme.
With two E's. Curtis the Supreme. That's it.
Okay, here's the question. What would young Carrie and young Tori think of your
role on Mythbusters, your life now, and what y'all have been up to?
What would a young Tori think of you? like what.
God, I don't think young Tori would definitely be like, no way I would.
I can't do that. There's no way I can do all that stuff.
I like I'll let him do that. I can't like as a kid looking at people who were on TV.
It was just like, how do they do that? I remember asking a friend.
I'm like, how are these people able to like get out there and put themselves
on national television? I just I can't.
It would be too much exposure. I'd be too nervous. And they were like,
they get paid a lot of money.
And then it's just funny how that became our careers.
I mean, I as well would not have believed it because I was so painfully shy.
Yeah. And also just not a performer. I just, I am not somebody who likes getting
on stage. And I tried out for the high school musical.
It was Bye Bye Birdie. And I only did it because all of my friends were going to do it.
And my, my best friend, Brittany's like an amazing dancer and Holly.
And like they were they were singers they were dancers and they did these great
tryouts and i like under prepped because i just didn't know what i was doing
and i i got up there and choked and started to cry oh no i was i it was i it
was like me and one other kid were the only ones that,
didn't make it like it was like an automatic you make the chorus or something and they're like nah.
It's like it's like getting picked last to play sports you were like but now
being in front of the camera what that's crazy and all the stuff that we've
done over the years that have been,
I mean, they've been brave, but they've been brave because they've been terrifying
and we would do it anyway.
You know, like you've jumped off of buildings and you freaking hate heights.
Like we've faced so many fears and have, you know, learned along the way.
Like the fact that, you know, I walked into Jamie's shop and lied about ever
being able to use a table saw and just figured it out.
Like, as a kid, I would never believe that I could be the woman that could do that. Yeah, yeah.
What advice would you give now as an adult? What advice would you give to the
young Carrie? It gets better.
Yeah. And you're going to be okay. Yeah. Like, I was so insecure as a kid,
and I just really wish that somebody would be like, it's going to be all right.
It gets better. Yeah, and I feel like a lot of kids, especially...
Who grew up during the pandemic where it was just, everything was just out of
control. And it was like fear inducing.
I just, I wish you could just go and tell every kid, just wait, it gets better.
It's going to be okay. Like there was times when I was a kid that I was like,
ah, childhood, this sucks. Like, I don't want to grow up.
And now looking back, it's like, God, everything turned out fine.
Like all those fears that you had that you're the worst thing could possibly
happen usually doesn't happen.
And it's just like a message that you want to get to these kids.
It's like, just hang in there. It's going to be OK. I love that. Yeah.
All right. Well, Carrie, great to see you.
I'm glad you you got a hold of Steve. That was an amazing interview. So good to talk to him.
What a cool guy. And I just, I hope everybody goes and listens to his podcast
and goes and finds him because myth confirmed, he is alive.
He is alive and well. Steve from Blue's Clues is alive.
And he's now a Mythfitz. And now he's a Mythfitz.
Oh, my God. I love that so much. I'm going to put that up on social media somewhere.
I was like, Mythfitz, what are you doing?
Like, oh, cool. Let's do it right now.
All right, Mythfitz. Thanks for tuning in. How are you?
All right. That's our episode today. Thank you guys for joining us.
Yep. Stay weird. Stay weird, Mythbiz.