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Can you do your Steve Blue's Clues and just ask, Hey Mythfits, how you doing?

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Hey, Mythfits, it's you. Oh, it's awesome.

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It's great to see you. How are you? How you doing? Dude, I just got chills.

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Nailed it. Welcome, Mythfits.

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Oh, Carrie. Hi, how are you?

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You want to start like that? Yeah, what's up, Carrie? Welcome back, MythFits.

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Hey there, MythFits. It's Carrie Byron and Tori Willace.

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We were MythBusters, and we're best friends. There's your show.

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Speaking of MythBusters and speaking of myths, do you remember when we were

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working on the show, somebody came in and they were like, did you hear Chuck Norris died?

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Oh we were like i don't know i

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didn't hear that with chuck norris because it was like the it was

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like the punchline of every joke yeah it was like he doesn't do push-ups he

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pushes the earth down yeah um and so we went online and we're searching searching

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searching and we could not find where chuck norris was dead but everybody was

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saying oh yeah chuck norris is it and it turned out it was an urban legend he

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hadn't died he's still alive actually,

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Yeah, actually, so there's another urban legend just like that that kind of

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leads into our guest today.

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Let's roll this clip. Hi. You got a second?

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Okay. You remember how when we were younger, we used to run around and hang

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out with Blue and find clues and talk to Mr.

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Salt and freak out about the mail and do all the fun stuff. And then one day

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I was like, oh, hey, guess what? Big news. I'm leaving.

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This is my brother Joe. He's your new best friend. And then I got on a bus and

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I left. And we didn't see each other for like a really long time.

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Can we just talk about that?

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Great. Uh, dude, that's... Yeah, okay. It's Steve from Blue's Clues.

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Steve from Blue's Clues. at some point

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uh when we first started launching this podcast

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you know i was looking at the people because you know i was seeing new followers

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and i saw steve burns and i was like wait is that steve from blues clothes he

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follows us is steve from blues who's a myth buster fan and i just started DMing him.

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I was like, started stalking him.

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Like it's it's an urban legend how he left that show.

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And I just I figured he could come and talk to us.

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You know, Carrie, there are a lot of myths about Steve Burns,

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including one that he's dead.

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Well, I guess we can bust that one right away. Let's go ask him if he's dead. Steve!

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Steve Burns from Blue's Clues. Are you alive?

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No. I am still alive.

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And I'm so psyched to be here. Oh, we are so excited you're here. It is so nice to me.

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Like, seriously, you're like the next generation Pee-wee Herman.

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Or Mr. Rogers. You're such an iconic character for so many generations.

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Oh, well, I don't know about all that.

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If that is true, it doesn't feel that way.

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Um, but especially with the Fred Rogers thing, um, I absolutely accept that

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for the praise that it is.

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It's difficult to, um, conceive of higher praise than that in,

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in many ways, but holy crap, it ain't true. I am nothing like Mr. Rogers.

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I mean, that guy was like a bodhisattva who should probably be on our money.

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And I was just a neurotic, bald guy who fell backwards into a weird job.

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Nah, quite honestly, we just listened to this one clip that you put out recently

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where you were talking to the camera like you used to talk to on Blue's Clues,

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where you were like, how are you guys doing?

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And I was checking the internet.

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Millennials lost their minds

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like your calming voice was such a part

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of their childhood like you were coming into their living rooms you

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were you were dealing with their feelings on such a base level that that coming

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into their lives now you're sort of resurfacing into their lives had had millennials

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crying yeah weird right i think there is a thing um um.

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Where there's special access granted when you're like crisscross applesauce,

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like when your grandma's carpet, you know,

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having a juice box, watching TV, whatever that thing is, is able to speak to

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you as an adult from a place of joy from your childhood in a way.

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And I think if Grover would send a message and I felt, and I took it personally, I'd weep for sure.

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You know, because I have those things from my childhood too.

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But, um, the, the idea that I might be that thing for someone else's childhood

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is really, frankly, not something I've ever been able to get my arms around

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in a meaningful way, but, but it's cool. Think about it.

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Most kids TV talks to the camera, you know?

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I mean, that's, that's a trope of children's television, right?

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I think what we did that was different is that we

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listened to it yeah you know and uh

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it was always kind of a magic trick to do

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that and uh and no

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one and you know when i was that was always like

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something i did on my own in in secret

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in a way because i was mostly

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working with child development specialists like there really

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weren't like acty people around i

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was kind of the only person who spoke that language at all and i

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was i don't know 21 22 years old so i didn't

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know what i was doing you know and um but

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i took that part incredibly serious like that to

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me when i remember blues blues that was the

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whole job was was you and

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i yeah you know like that was that was

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it because nothing else was there you guys understand this better than almost

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anybody else you're vfx people or uh sfx boy and like you understand what it

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is to be on a blue screen and uh there was nothing there i was in like i was

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in a void and the only the only thing i had.

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Was the camera yeah and so blues clues felt like incredibly small and incredibly

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personal to me it was it was this thing i did with the camera who was you.

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You know, so I think that that translated. Your voice is freaking hypnotic.

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I have noticed since we've gotten on this podcast, Tori and I are big, fast, loud talkers.

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Even introducing you, just knowing you were here, I feel like I went a little zen.

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Like I feel calmer talking to you. I am talking slower.

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I definitely noticed a shift in Mythbusters. And I appreciate that.

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I definitely noticed a shift in mythbusters when we first started

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the show we talked off screen to

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a producer who was over to the side of camera oh yeah

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the minute that we looked into the camera

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and we started presenting to the audience

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the show's popularity escalate a

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connection happened between us and the audience where they

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felt like we were talking to them we were in their living

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room every week like our celebrity all of a

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sudden just started to rise because we stopped

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being you know just just background but actually

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being interactive and i think maybe that that's the power that you have had

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with making that connection with kids when they were really young well listen

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you know speaking to a camera um with joy and authentic curiosity about a curriculum is hard as shit.

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And you guys were great at it. That was the first thing I noticed about Mythbusters.

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I was like, these guys are hard.

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And these guys are really good at this. Like you were all extraordinarily good

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hosts of what was essentially eventually like a science curriculum on a certain level.

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And you guys were all great at it. And that was one of the things I loved about the show.

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Spoiler. I loved that show. Oh, my God.

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Thank you. Oh, my God. Stephen Blue's close like Mythbusters.

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I was obsessed with Mythbusters. But you know, it's funny because like how,

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when you were doing your show, how did they direct you?

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Because with us, when we first started, we were so nervous because none of us

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wanted to be, at least I didn't want to be on camera, that it was like really nerve wracking.

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And so they would be like, just relax, come out of your, you know,

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you're, you're have this wall up, you look scared.

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And then as we got more comfortable, then they were, they would ratchet it up

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and be like, all right, I do that again, but pretend like you're on crack.

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Like just over the top, like just.

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And so your show and the way you performed, it was so subtle and so kind of

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gentle. Like what was the direction?

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The first season of the show, we didn't have directors so much. Um.

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There was a sense on Blue's Clues that this was an animated show with this guy sometimes. Yeah.

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Right? You're that guy. And so they would have animation directors come in and

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say things like, hey, man, can you do that again and move your Y axis 15 degrees

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this way? I'd be like, you cannot be serious.

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The thing you just said can't be real. And they were like, yeah,

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that's what we need you to do. I'm like, I'm carbon-based.

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Like that's not i'm not i cannot do that you know and it was all technical it was all technical so,

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i would run around and talk to the soap and talk to the condiments and i would

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have to get here and if i was here it was wrong right and we'd have to do it

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again and this was there was no point of orientation i was on a void it was

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in a void right so we were mostly just concerned with that.

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And, um, the only real kind of direction I would get was happier.

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You know, they would always say happier and I would be, and I would always make

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the point like, no, no, we must be more Bert than Ernie.

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You know, like there's, that's great.

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This guy must have a human ballast. He doesn't know which of these snacks is a graham cracker.

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We must make that part of his character. He's not the brightest bulb.

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In the world, you know, and they would just be like, what? No, happy.

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And so I would kind of sneak in all of these, all this human stuff while everyone

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was checking their email.

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So you were self-directing. Yeah. But eventually we all sort of got on the same page.

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At first, you know, we were all kids, you know, I think our executive producer was 25.

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You know, we were just kids, and they were overwhelmed with the technical aspect of everything.

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We were all drowning in why are we trying to make this animated kid show on

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desktop Macintosh for absolutely no money.

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So Steve kind of evolved in private in a void.

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And I mean that about myself, too. I mean, both of you, I guess, on some level.

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If steve burns was a mythbusters fan do you have a favorite episode that like spoke to you,

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this is for my own personal i'm like steve from floof school's watched

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us is there you know i just talked to adam on uh on my on my podcast um and

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i try not to talk about mythbusters at all i was like i want to talk to you

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about the future of truth and the importance of critical thinking and the difference

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between falsifiability and plausibility.

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But I didn't. I just talked about Mythbusters the whole time.

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And I know this wasn't a segment you guys did, but I thought Lead Balloon was

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one of the most beautiful moments of television.

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Not only was it just a beautiful endeavor, but the object that they made should

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have been in the Whitney.

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Like that thing was gorgeous and

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it was just sort of a distillation of the show like um

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here's an adage that we we assume truth

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about right but but with with

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joy and curiosity and scrutiny

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we're going to see if it's real you

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know just pure process the process of

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trying to figure that out and the whole journey of

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creating this with just the scientific method

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and just everything that they could pull to make it happen

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was a it was a really good example and the crazy thing is is it worked like

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that was you're just looking at this thing going wait a minute this does not

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this is defying all logic this should not be floating i think i stood up from

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my couch and applauded when it happened i was like,

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Gentlemen.

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Beautiful. I was very team carry in one respect.

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I was very anti dead pig episodes. I was like, bro, I mean, I'm not a vegetarian

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or anything, but this is a lot.

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Pretty gnarly. Yeah. Like, I don't need, like, come on. I'm happy with the ballistics gel.

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I don't need my analog to be this specific.

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Science. We need the science. Oh, man. We were pretty anti because you have

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to get rid of that pig at the end, right?

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So there were several ways that we had to dispose of the pig.

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One way is if it wasn't too riddled with, like, you know, lead because we shot it.

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Jamie, if he was able, would butcher it and consume the meat and hand the meat to everybody.

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Yeah, we'd make pulled pork. We'd take it home and make pulled pork and then

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bring it back in. Someone gave me... Everybody like I was at my my husband ate meat at the time.

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So he they gave me a big package to bring home. But to prank me,

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they put like, like an eye and an ear on the top of it.

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So when I opened it up, I was just ruined.

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That's horrifying. Yeah, it was pretty bad. Behind the scenes madness.

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We also had to sometimes take it to the rendering plant, which was near the shop.

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And Tori and I remember one time where we drove this pig carcass to the rendering plant.

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And the smell, it permeates every pore. And it's like an oil in the air.

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So it gets in your nose and it gets in your hair.

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Like my clothes, I wanted to burn. because we walked away in for the rest of

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the day. I'm like, I still smell it. I still smell that.

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So Steve, I feel like one of the biggest myths about you is why you left the show.

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Can you expound on what is the real reason?

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Actually, let's go through these myths and you can tell us if they are busted

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or confirmed. Okay, first myth.

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Are you dead? Plausible.

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From the beyond did you overdose busted well i guess it's not busted it's not

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even plausible busted did you die in a car wreck uh busted did you leave to pursue education,

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Plausible. Did you leave because you weren't getting any residuals from reruns?

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Plausible. That might be plausible to confirm.

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Did you leave because you were losing your hair? Confirmed. That was a huge part of it.

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I mean, you only have to look at the pants that they decided I should wear to

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know how bad the wig would have been.

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You know blues blues

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was great in a in in i cherish it's

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the best thing that ever happened obviously there was not a

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lot of public dignity involved and um and you got to keep in mind you know like

00:19:31.650 --> 00:19:37.190
it was going real fast and then there was the this thing yeah and there was

00:19:37.190 --> 00:19:42.370
a day when And I was just kind of standing there in my dressing room with the shirt on.

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And the makeup artist was like.

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This spray painting the back of my head. And I was like, we're done.

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We're done. This is a good time. So you didn't leave because the green polo

00:20:01.170 --> 00:20:04.090
shirt was uncomfortable. It was very uncomfortable.

00:20:04.530 --> 00:20:07.590
It was, again, I'm talking to people who understand TV stuff.

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So it wasn't just like an off the rack cop shirt because of the amount of light

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we had to use because we were doing chroma key as cheap as possible the way

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to do that is to over light everything and.

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Every color looked terrible so we

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had to have these hyper dyed each one of those shirts

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was handmade and they were wool

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and they it was like a

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hair shirt those shirts were extremely comfortable they were just like oh god

00:20:39.890 --> 00:20:47.490
come on so but that's not why i left you know the um the real real is that uh

00:20:47.490 --> 00:20:52.730
the entire time i was on blues clues i was also dealing with

00:20:52.910 --> 00:20:56.670
undiagnosed severe clinical depression which made

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my job wicked hard um and

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i didn't have any idea what was

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going on with me because i was a kid you know

00:21:07.150 --> 00:21:10.070
how old were you at this time i was like by

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the time i left the show i guess i was 28 29 years old okay and uh i didn't

00:21:20.210 --> 00:21:24.690
know what was up i just knew that it was hard to be happy that which is what

00:21:24.690 --> 00:21:27.830
they kept telling me to be you know um,

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and i got there most days and i was able to find that sense of wonder being

00:21:33.870 --> 00:21:38.310
so young i didn't really have any replenishment strategy for the well i kept

00:21:38.310 --> 00:21:45.450
going to you know by the time i left that show i was noticing it in my performance and uh,

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And I was just struggling to do my job. That hits me.

00:21:52.840 --> 00:21:56.600
I'm feeling like tears for you right now.

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Because to be honest, during Mythbusters, I was having the same problem.

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I had some really bad depression.

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And I remember, especially after I had my baby, I had really bad postpartum

00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:16.380
for a while. and the dissidence of showing up on screen and being like,

00:22:16.600 --> 00:22:19.440
oh my gosh, everything's great. I'm so excited to be here.

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But on the inside, just feeling black.

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You know, like I would, I remember the camera would go off. Sometimes I would

00:22:28.260 --> 00:22:32.300
just stop my car and sit in a field and cry because I couldn't figure out like

00:22:32.300 --> 00:22:37.300
how to deal with what seemed like the best days of my life.

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Like if I'm not happy when I'm on a hit TV show, like

00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:44.180
there's something wrong and it was almost like Mythbusters showed

00:22:44.180 --> 00:22:47.140
me that I had depression because if things were going so well

00:22:47.140 --> 00:22:50.300
and I still felt this random sadness there was nothing to blame

00:22:50.300 --> 00:22:55.260
it on and that distance is what actually got me to go figure out how to get

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some help for that amen sister I mean I relate to everything you just said word

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for word and that there is a dissonance that creates enough relief between creates

00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:09.460
enough contrast that it at least it was also in my life very instructive.

00:23:10.540 --> 00:23:13.520
I thought, wow, something must be going on. Yeah.

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Because, yeah, my job is hard, but I've got a good thing going,

00:23:17.120 --> 00:23:20.460
you know, and a lot of responsibility.

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And my reaction to that, I don't know what you did, but my reaction to that was just to fight.

00:23:27.260 --> 00:23:31.700
You know, I thought, you know, I'm just going to fight this, fight through this.

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But I always say you don't fight depression, you collect it. Yeah. Right.

00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:42.680
And it just got so incredibly heavy. But very few people understand what you

00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:47.160
just outlined, which is, you know, I think a lot of people understand depression.

00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:53.480
And I think most people do, honestly. And I think a lot of people understand

00:23:53.480 --> 00:24:00.700
the ask to be not depressed professionally while you're still feeling that way

00:24:00.700 --> 00:24:04.200
or at home with your family or with your friends.

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I think very few people understand the job of being the happiest people in North

00:24:11.820 --> 00:24:16.180
America on days when you don't even have your own approval.

00:24:16.760 --> 00:24:19.460
You know i mean it's everybody's a lot

00:24:19.460 --> 00:24:22.520
of people's jobs are hard that was the way in which our job was particularly

00:24:22.520 --> 00:24:26.700
tough you know and um i wasn't

00:24:26.700 --> 00:24:29.940
dealing with it in any meaningful way and it

00:24:29.940 --> 00:24:32.640
just became a little heavier than

00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:35.720
i could lift you know i couldn't do both at the same time by

00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:38.560
the end of that show and that's that was the reason that you

00:24:38.560 --> 00:24:41.740
was that the reason that you decided to leave

00:24:41.740 --> 00:24:44.920
was the mental health ultimately yeah i

00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:47.760
was like you know what this is this is diminishing returns at

00:24:47.760 --> 00:24:50.880
this point and uh you know

00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:54.180
i didn't i didn't have the language then to

00:24:54.180 --> 00:24:56.840
know what was going on and i

00:24:56.840 --> 00:25:00.900
didn't leave and say i'm doing this for my mental health i

00:25:00.900 --> 00:25:05.400
just knew that what i was doing was unsustainable and there was something else

00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:15.500
going on the whole time i was an urban legend i was a myth during that time

00:25:15.500 --> 00:25:20.340
as you guys mentioned um everyone thought i'd die.

00:25:21.830 --> 00:25:27.730
And there was a persistent sort of indelible internet rumor that I was dead.

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And we couldn't bust that myth. That's, you know, I would, I would go on TV.

00:25:34.370 --> 00:25:39.430
I was making new television all the time. And yet everyone thought I was dead.

00:25:39.750 --> 00:25:42.970
After enough years of that, it feels like a preference in a way,

00:25:42.970 --> 00:25:46.250
you know, it's like, wow, this sucks.

00:25:46.250 --> 00:25:49.290
And it's not great when you're

00:25:49.290 --> 00:25:52.230
you know severely depressed and in the world tells you

00:25:52.230 --> 00:25:55.030
that you're dead yeah you know what i mean and that's one

00:25:55.030 --> 00:25:58.250
of the reasons i loved your show was because

00:25:58.250 --> 00:26:02.110
you guys felt like a rescue team to me i

00:26:02.110 --> 00:26:05.390
was like what if what if like what if

00:26:05.390 --> 00:26:09.630
tory grant and and carrie showed up with like an ekg like

00:26:09.630 --> 00:26:12.530
we could bust this it's

00:26:12.530 --> 00:26:16.110
right here and now guys we could bring you back in the dead we

00:26:16.110 --> 00:26:19.430
could do it like oh no his vitals are fine carrie

00:26:19.430 --> 00:26:22.590
look what i'm sporting what are you sporting my sweater

00:26:22.590 --> 00:26:27.790
from rag and boom yeah you're looking stylish i got a pair of jeans too and

00:26:27.790 --> 00:26:32.390
this outfit has become my favorite outfit i'm like wearing it too much stand

00:26:32.390 --> 00:26:36.370
up do a little twirl let's see i don't have them on right now i have sweat i

00:26:36.370 --> 00:26:39.610
knew you were wearing pants i knew it but you could put them on later when you

00:26:39.610 --> 00:26:40.310
go on a date with your wife.

00:26:41.360 --> 00:26:44.200
I always do the podcast with no pants. Me too.

00:26:44.700 --> 00:26:49.280
But look at this one. Look at this. This is my rag and bone sweater. And it is so comfy.

00:26:49.540 --> 00:26:52.460
And especially now that it's starting to cool down.

00:26:52.660 --> 00:26:56.840
Well, except for today. Right now it's like 75 degrees here in California.

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But it will start cooling down soon.

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the guy I'm dating. Oh, yeah.

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Oh, it upped his wardrobe game, I have to say.

00:27:09.760 --> 00:27:13.580
Wow. He's a little adventure-y. He tends to wear an ironic fleece.

00:27:13.700 --> 00:27:17.660
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00:27:17.840 --> 00:27:23.680
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Let them know you're a myth fit too. Yeah, you're going to look good.

00:28:33.930 --> 00:28:37.290
What's what's the craziest child interaction like

00:28:37.290 --> 00:28:40.170
fan interaction you've ever had oh it's gonna tug your

00:28:40.170 --> 00:28:42.950
heartstrings oh i love it bring it

00:28:42.950 --> 00:28:45.990
um i'll see if i can get through one one

00:28:45.990 --> 00:28:48.850
thing i'm not enjoying about being present on

00:28:48.850 --> 00:28:52.350
the internet and podcasting is i cry a lot which

00:28:52.350 --> 00:28:55.230
is insane because that's not me but it feels

00:28:55.230 --> 00:28:57.990
like on every other podcast i weep so i'm gonna try to get through this one

00:28:57.990 --> 00:29:02.690
without crying i was doing a fan convention in pittsburgh and

00:29:02.690 --> 00:29:05.350
uh this dude came up he's in his 30s or

00:29:05.350 --> 00:29:08.290
whatever he's like hey man i was like hey and

00:29:08.290 --> 00:29:12.170
i'm signing a picture he's like do you remember me i'm like i don't i'm

00:29:12.170 --> 00:29:15.050
sorry and uh he showed

00:29:15.050 --> 00:29:18.150
me a picture i'm like wait a minute he was

00:29:18.150 --> 00:29:21.790
a make-a-wish kid oh i did

00:29:21.790 --> 00:29:25.690
remember now you're gonna make me cry and i

00:29:25.690 --> 00:29:28.510
just gave him hug and he

00:29:28.510 --> 00:29:31.750
said hey man we made it oh my

00:29:31.750 --> 00:29:35.190
god and uh

00:29:35.190 --> 00:29:38.450
that's my favorite

00:29:38.450 --> 00:29:45.150
interaction i've ever had maybe with anyone oh that's awesome man that is if

00:29:45.150 --> 00:29:54.010
i could hug you right now he was sick oh my god that's amazing that's the best

00:29:54.010 --> 00:29:58.030
one i got tori look at that He's not easy to make cry.

00:29:58.290 --> 00:30:05.190
He used to have, you know, part of the Make-A-Wish, they would bring a group

00:30:05.190 --> 00:30:11.850
of kids who were terminally ill through the shop, and it was just like...

00:30:13.820 --> 00:30:17.260
This might be the last time we see these kids. Like, I don't know if they're

00:30:17.260 --> 00:30:20.060
going to make it. And just to hear that story is awesome.

00:30:20.500 --> 00:30:24.580
You know who was really, really good in these situations? Grant.

00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:28.540
Grant, when any kid would walk into

00:30:28.540 --> 00:30:32.380
the shop, instantly tapped into their curiosity and their fascination.

00:30:33.100 --> 00:30:41.300
And he would guide them through just a moment of excitement through everything

00:30:41.300 --> 00:30:44.580
that he was excited about, showing him robots and tools and whatever.

00:30:44.800 --> 00:30:48.920
And like anytime a kid came to the shop, he just lit up.

00:30:49.180 --> 00:30:55.480
And then after Mythbusters, he made a little robotic Baby Yoda and would take

00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:56.500
it to the children's hospitals.

00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:03.120
Grant was so good with kids. I always wanted him to end up having a kid someday. I could see that.

00:31:03.340 --> 00:31:12.460
I can see that being real. He had such a sweet soul that came through for sure.

00:31:12.460 --> 00:31:15.100
Did you get a picture with that kid that made it? Yeah.

00:31:16.100 --> 00:31:20.940
Oh, yeah. That's so odd. That is such, like, what a great re-meeting. I just, I love that.

00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:24.840
Insane, right? And I have another question. Yeah.

00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:32.180
What's it like you guys graduated from some weird university by the end of that series?

00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:34.480
You guys were so jealous.

00:31:35.280 --> 00:31:40.200
They're like weapons experts. They're stunt drivers now.

00:31:40.660 --> 00:31:47.080
They can fabricate literally anything. You guys left that show with actual superpowers.

00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:55.820
Do you use all that stuff now in your lives? Occasionally, but only for people

00:31:55.820 --> 00:31:58.880
employ us to be like ex-mythbusters.

00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:05.460
So recently, I worked with a flamethrower that was not stock that had to be

00:32:05.460 --> 00:32:10.700
rigged up to, I think it started at 200 PSI so that I could shoot flames through

00:32:10.700 --> 00:32:13.260
a wall and try to destroy that wall.

00:32:13.260 --> 00:32:19.120
So like I did get to walk on set and be like, oh, yeah, OK, so what kind of

00:32:19.120 --> 00:32:20.240
kickback does that have?

00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:24.220
OK, so is that would that be like a 50 cow kind of pushing on you or is this

00:32:24.220 --> 00:32:25.500
more going to be like a fire hose?

00:32:25.660 --> 00:32:28.880
Like like there was these skills that I came with.

00:32:29.700 --> 00:32:34.760
The guys on set were like, wow, OK, most people aren't prepared for this kind of conversation.

00:32:35.060 --> 00:32:42.100
So we we have them, but like we can't put them on a resume because we are qualified for no actual job.

00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:52.520
Right okay that that makes sense um and i have a four-year-old daughter so all

00:32:52.520 --> 00:33:00.620
the skills i have are completely useless i cannot it's like sometimes trying to reach her it's like,

00:33:01.380 --> 00:33:06.100
i've done all these things and i have no skills for this no you know what you

00:33:06.100 --> 00:33:10.540
have skills for is you know what that kid is going to be up to because you done

00:33:10.540 --> 00:33:12.120
it all that's true that's true.

00:33:13.360 --> 00:33:19.000
Um, I mean, I'm, I've always been curious, like, what are, what are the ones you guys loved?

00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:22.640
You know, what are the, what are the myths you had the most fun?

00:33:22.740 --> 00:33:24.900
You know what I didn't like? You know what I got sick of?

00:33:25.860 --> 00:33:29.320
Blowing stuff up i was like sure that is fun and

00:33:29.320 --> 00:33:32.260
i always like that but that's not the most interesting thing

00:33:32.260 --> 00:33:35.160
these guys do right you know that is not the

00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.900
most interesting it was a fallback it was like uh we don't

00:33:37.900 --> 00:33:40.600
know what to do then we're gonna do this it's gonna be a

00:33:40.600 --> 00:33:43.320
crowd pleaser it's a way to end with a

00:33:43.320 --> 00:33:46.200
bang as they say for sure yeah yeah yeah you're right

00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:49.400
it's it was the ones that were unexpected like uh a

00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:52.320
bull in a china shop similar to the lead balloon

00:33:52.320 --> 00:33:55.120
it was like okay bull in china shop it's somebody who's

00:33:55.120 --> 00:33:58.060
super clumsy and is breaking everything we set that up

00:33:58.060 --> 00:34:02.420
and those bulls were the most graceful creatures we'd ever seen and they were

00:34:02.420 --> 00:34:05.660
so self aware and they knew exactly where their body was and they were just

00:34:05.660 --> 00:34:10.680
weaving right through the shelves of china that we set up it was like whoa this

00:34:10.680 --> 00:34:15.240
is unexpected that was such a crazy result right you set up all these things

00:34:15.240 --> 00:34:17.900
with like the most fragile objects in the world and the bulls are like.

00:34:20.290 --> 00:34:27.150
Pardon me. Excuse me. Pardon me. Exactly. Oh, sorry. So sorry. Coming through.

00:34:28.330 --> 00:34:32.310
Yeah, that was wild, that one. The ones where we did really big builds that

00:34:32.310 --> 00:34:37.570
actually worked, where the three of us, because for me, my favorite ones were

00:34:37.570 --> 00:34:38.690
when the three of us were like,

00:34:39.070 --> 00:34:43.350
yeah, and like we were all hugging and like we had gone through this whole journey

00:34:43.350 --> 00:34:45.810
and we trauma bonded over making something work.

00:34:45.970 --> 00:34:50.190
And then it actually comes off or, you know, it does what it's supposed to do

00:34:50.190 --> 00:34:54.670
or it does completely what it's not supposed to do where we're just laughing our butts off.

00:34:54.670 --> 00:34:58.630
Because for me, it was like the family aspect of us, like all kind of working

00:34:58.630 --> 00:35:04.050
on it together because it was it was the cameramen and the sound recorders and

00:35:04.050 --> 00:35:07.110
anybody who was on the shoot. Like, it's not a union show.

00:35:07.310 --> 00:35:10.990
So everybody would kind of join in. Like, maybe somebody helped us build.

00:35:11.150 --> 00:35:13.530
Maybe, you know, like we would all just kind of celebrate together.

00:35:13.730 --> 00:35:17.050
So I don't even know if those moments even made it on screen,

00:35:17.050 --> 00:35:20.690
but it was those giggly family moments that were the best for me.

00:35:20.690 --> 00:35:25.330
Like I was we talked about this recently, but we did one where a car was being

00:35:25.330 --> 00:35:30.390
dropped from a helicopter and one was remote control racing across the desert.

00:35:30.410 --> 00:35:33.810
And it was, you know, to see if they would hit the X at the same time.

00:35:33.890 --> 00:35:38.110
But it was the coordination of remote controlling a car and dropping it just

00:35:38.110 --> 00:35:42.410
the right time and all the math that had to go right and being out in the elements.

00:35:42.410 --> 00:35:45.490
And when it finally went off, the three of us.

00:35:46.070 --> 00:35:49.470
You know, two, I mean, we got all of our helicopters, we all ran towards each

00:35:49.470 --> 00:35:53.030
other in the crash cars and we were jumping in a circle,

00:35:53.250 --> 00:36:00.550
hugging and laughing and just like the joy of accomplishing something so weird,

00:36:00.550 --> 00:36:03.750
but like it actually working was just like,

00:36:03.890 --> 00:36:09.250
I will take that moment where we were, it was, we were tapping into that joy that you have as a kid.

00:36:09.250 --> 00:36:13.390
When it's just like, yes, this is awesome.

00:36:13.870 --> 00:36:16.270
And that came through too, Gary, you know, like,

00:36:17.430 --> 00:36:24.630
There was a lot of joy in that show, and it was this great mix of joy and rigorous effort.

00:36:25.970 --> 00:36:30.970
It just seemed like a good prescription for how to deal with anything.

00:36:31.690 --> 00:36:37.990
Here's a question I've always had. Do you guys really believe that duct tape

00:36:37.990 --> 00:36:43.770
is some sort of sacred material, or did you kind of hate duct tape by the end

00:36:43.770 --> 00:36:46.670
of it? Because I always sensed, like, these people are sick of duct tape.

00:36:46.830 --> 00:36:53.610
They are very tired of ripping duct tape and holding duct tape and duct taping things.

00:36:54.170 --> 00:36:59.670
It wrecks your hands and stuff. And the stickiness, there's residue that's really,

00:36:59.770 --> 00:37:01.690
really annoying. But...

00:37:02.900 --> 00:37:10.500
I have a roll in the trunk of my car, and I swear to God, it has saved so many,

00:37:10.980 --> 00:37:14.900
like, it's definitely saved a couple hoopties that we've had where we had to,

00:37:14.900 --> 00:37:17.540
like, tape a bumper back on that fell off.

00:37:17.540 --> 00:37:20.060
I've helped strangers with this sort of thing.

00:37:20.260 --> 00:37:27.200
But the best was we had to get down a mountain and they were requiring chains

00:37:27.200 --> 00:37:33.360
and our chains broke and because they were old and crappy and rusted and wouldn't

00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:35.240
work, but they wouldn't let us drive without them.

00:37:35.700 --> 00:37:41.080
So temporarily duct tape doesn't usually work very good in water, but just to get through,

00:37:41.300 --> 00:37:47.960
we fixed our snow chains with a just a shit ton of duct tape holding part of

00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:53.440
it and made it through the section that they were making us use them just far

00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:54.860
enough that we could get those chains off.

00:37:54.980 --> 00:37:58.300
And it was because my mom had duct tape in her purse.

00:37:58.660 --> 00:38:01.680
And I was like, what the heck do you have duct tape?

00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:05.740
I mean, she has the miracle Mary Poppins mom purse that has everything from

00:38:05.740 --> 00:38:09.840
like Tupperware to a wet cloth and a baggie because it was before wet wipes.

00:38:09.940 --> 00:38:13.820
But she's like, well, because on Mythbusters, you always have duct tape so i

00:38:13.820 --> 00:38:15.300
just figured it's something i should have.

00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:23.240
You know uh it really was impressive by the end of that series was like they

00:38:23.240 --> 00:38:25.480
they made all they did all of

00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:29.320
that that happened that is an impressive material it's boats it's planes,

00:38:29.860 --> 00:38:36.480
it's uh i mean they really did do all that stuff um how long did it take,

00:38:37.600 --> 00:38:41.540
for example, to make a robot that throws a thing.

00:38:42.100 --> 00:38:45.780
Like, was that like, because sometimes Grant would make a robot and it was like,

00:38:46.540 --> 00:38:55.200
either that existed in Adam's, in Jamie's studio mostly, or that took four months to make that.

00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:59.880
You know, like, was it really as simple as like this servo motor plus this thing,

00:39:00.040 --> 00:39:02.940
plus I know how to do all of this. You know, it's interesting.

00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:07.440
It would depend on the machine. Like if their, Grant was very protective.

00:39:07.600 --> 00:39:09.620
Like he didn't like he didn't like our help.

00:39:09.900 --> 00:39:13.020
But when it was getting to a point where it was like, we got to get this thing

00:39:13.020 --> 00:39:18.700
done by tomorrow to start testing, then we would all jump on and just all hands

00:39:18.700 --> 00:39:20.100
on deck to get things done.

00:39:20.260 --> 00:39:23.860
But yes, we would cannibalize old machines that we'd made for other myths because,

00:39:24.040 --> 00:39:26.040
you know, the gears would already be together.

00:39:26.040 --> 00:39:30.880
Or we figured out that a face slapping robot could also be a sword swinging

00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:35.680
robot, which could also be a baseball throwing robot. So it definitely cannibalized

00:39:35.680 --> 00:39:37.980
from each. We recycled. Nothing ever got thrown away.

00:39:39.200 --> 00:39:42.060
Jamie's and Adam's shop was the same way. Except for the pigs. We threw the pigs away.

00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:46.860
Robots never got thrown away. And Grant was also, on his own time,

00:39:47.080 --> 00:39:54.860
making a lot of robots for fun that did weird stuff. So he had a lot of the

00:39:54.860 --> 00:39:57.880
stuff just kind of sitting half built in boxes.

00:39:58.260 --> 00:40:00.700
So it went a lot faster than you think it would.

00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:04.420
Like, we were very autonomous. So Jamie and Adam had their stuff,

00:40:04.560 --> 00:40:06.520
but they had some weird stuff. We had our stuff.

00:40:06.720 --> 00:40:09.620
We had some weird stuff, so we would go back and forth and we couldn't find things.

00:40:09.780 --> 00:40:18.420
But honestly, a lot of these were just simple, but also resourced from just

00:40:18.420 --> 00:40:21.480
being complete hoarders over the years.

00:40:21.680 --> 00:40:25.700
That sword-swinging robot was one that scared me. Oh, it scared all of us.

00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:30.760
I was like, that's not, they just shouldn't do that. No. This is ill-advised.

00:40:31.940 --> 00:40:36.580
They should not be doing this. And sometimes you guys would fill some canister,

00:40:36.940 --> 00:40:42.280
some PVC pipe, some something with way too many PSIs.

00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:46.940
And I was like, this is, I love this show, but is this going to end in tragedy someday?

00:40:47.860 --> 00:40:53.020
Like what are they lucky? Nobody died. Right. Yeah. Like something had to like

00:40:53.020 --> 00:40:55.380
that sword swinging robot was like.

00:40:56.540 --> 00:40:58.180
Terrifying. Still is. Yeah.

00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:02.720
Legitimately terrifying. Yeah. And it was one of those situations where it's

00:41:02.720 --> 00:41:09.080
like, if that quick release accidentally pops and we're standing up, like, we're all dead.

00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:12.100
Like, there goes the build team. Why was it neck height?

00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:18.280
Good question. Yeah. I guess my real question is, what was the paperwork like?

00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:24.380
What sort of waiver did you guys sign to do that?

00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:29.540
Well, sir, we had the same insurers as Jackass. We were the safe bet.

00:41:32.120 --> 00:41:36.760
That makes sense. Well, we're all super still fascinated in you.

00:41:36.940 --> 00:41:43.540
And, um, for all of our myth fit fans, can you tell them where we can find you in every possible way?

00:41:43.860 --> 00:41:50.860
Uh, well, digitally, um, you can find me, uh, on YouTube with,

00:41:51.200 --> 00:41:53.120
uh, alive with Steve Burns.

00:41:53.380 --> 00:41:55.340
Uh, that's the podcast man.

00:41:55.680 --> 00:41:57.840
And you can find that, um,

00:41:58.910 --> 00:42:04.170
Uh, anywhere you can find the podcast literally anywhere that you listen to those things.

00:42:04.970 --> 00:42:08.170
Um, and we're very excited about that podcast.

00:42:08.290 --> 00:42:12.450
You know, it used to be shapes and colors and letters and numbers,

00:42:12.470 --> 00:42:15.330
and this is very much death, sex and taxes.

00:42:15.710 --> 00:42:18.090
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Where we are now.

00:42:18.530 --> 00:42:23.130
The little, a little more grown up. It is, it is, but there's enough,

00:42:23.350 --> 00:42:26.610
there's enough of the comfort of the joy of childhood in it.

00:42:26.750 --> 00:42:31.510
I hope that, um, It allows people to open up to these bigger subjects.

00:42:32.910 --> 00:42:36.850
And then, I mean, I've got social media stuff. I think on TikTok,

00:42:37.190 --> 00:42:39.030
I'm high out there. It's me, Steve.

00:42:39.330 --> 00:42:41.810
And then on Instagram, I'm Steve Burns Alive.

00:42:43.030 --> 00:42:46.290
I love it. We've busted that myth so hard today.

00:42:46.810 --> 00:42:52.570
So good. It has been a pleasure meeting you and talking with you.

00:42:52.770 --> 00:42:56.430
And it's like, I feel calmer just listening to your voice.

00:42:56.790 --> 00:43:00.510
I'm the opposite. I'm like stoked. But I got to hang out with the Mythbusters.

00:43:00.730 --> 00:43:03.030
Like, this is so fun for me. You have no idea.

00:43:03.410 --> 00:43:07.230
That show was very important to me for like 10 years.

00:43:07.490 --> 00:43:12.830
That's awesome. Like, I think I've seen every episode at least once. And that is true.

00:43:13.290 --> 00:43:17.270
You've seen them more than I have been because I don't think I've seen every single episode.

00:43:18.290 --> 00:43:22.630
Yeah, I'm the same way. I don't watch myself do anything. Can I ask you to do

00:43:22.630 --> 00:43:25.630
one fan thing for me? Yes, of course.

00:43:26.130 --> 00:43:32.270
Can you do your Steve Blue's Clues and just ask, hey Mythfits, how you doing?

00:43:35.670 --> 00:43:40.850
Hey Mythfits, it's you. Oh, it's awesome.

00:43:41.770 --> 00:43:44.490
It's great to see you. How are you? How you doing? How you doing?

00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:51.400
Like that? Dude, I just got chills. Nailed it. Woo!

00:43:52.040 --> 00:43:57.280
That was awesome. That was awesome. Oh, my God. Thank you so much. You've been so awesome.

00:43:57.620 --> 00:44:01.680
I'm absolutely a misfit. Or at least I hope I am. You are a misfit.

00:44:01.820 --> 00:44:04.420
You are a misfit. Oh, my God. You are. Yeah.

00:44:04.580 --> 00:44:07.760
I mean, if misfits are your fans, I am a misfit.

00:44:08.020 --> 00:44:12.080
We're all misfits. This is a community. It's not me and Tori. It's all of us.

00:44:12.100 --> 00:44:16.320
It's all of the people who were a part of the Mythbuster process, community.

00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:20.660
We've always been really really engaged with our fans we answer questions from

00:44:20.660 --> 00:44:24.460
them constantly and we've always been on message boards having actual long conversations

00:44:24.460 --> 00:44:29.400
with them so like you're a misfit you i gotta get on those message boards because

00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:34.560
i am certainly a proud misfit well yeah you can always just talk you can hit us up too.

00:44:35.700 --> 00:44:40.180
Dude this has been so much fun thank you like seriously this it's like.

00:44:40.790 --> 00:44:44.210
I feel like my daughter would freak out if she came in here and saw you.

00:44:44.490 --> 00:44:45.710
It's just, this is awesome.

00:44:46.070 --> 00:44:50.110
Well, tell her I said hi and tell her Josh said hi. All right. Thanks, guys.

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00:46:14.930 --> 00:46:21.570
That was such a special podcast just to be able to hear his journey and get

00:46:21.570 --> 00:46:26.150
his perspective on his career and then how our show impacted him,

00:46:27.560 --> 00:46:31.880
I'm glad you stalked him. I appreciate you. Usually I don't,

00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:34.320
but this time I appreciate it.

00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:40.900
Did you, do you get something like there's something special about Steve where it's,

00:46:41.680 --> 00:46:48.360
he engages you with his voice and the way he looks into the camera in a way

00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:51.920
that he instantly, I do feel like he's my friend.

00:46:52.240 --> 00:46:55.500
It just felt like we've known him forever. And I don't know.

00:46:55.500 --> 00:46:57.900
He's got something special.

00:46:58.080 --> 00:47:05.040
There's an it factor there where it's just like, wow, I adore you.

00:47:05.660 --> 00:47:09.880
Yeah. And you said it best when he first started talking. You're like,

00:47:10.080 --> 00:47:11.180
normally we're like this.

00:47:12.040 --> 00:47:16.960
And both of us kind of were like, yeah, let's take a step back.

00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:21.920
Let's quiet our voices. I mean, he is. He has a very calming voice.

00:47:23.470 --> 00:47:26.390
Personality and it's it's it's wonderful i'm sorry

00:47:26.390 --> 00:47:29.570
but if the calm app or one of those like meditation apps

00:47:29.570 --> 00:47:32.510
hasn't called him to do something i i

00:47:32.510 --> 00:47:36.070
feel like that right there that could be his money maker because if he just

00:47:36.070 --> 00:47:41.590
talked at night before i had to go to sleep i'd be like go to sleep by steve

00:47:41.590 --> 00:47:45.450
burns well i was like can i get your number so like if i'm ever stressed out

00:47:45.450 --> 00:47:49.770
i just give you a call and you just talk me down maybe just read harry potter

00:47:49.770 --> 00:47:52.370
to me i don't know Just read a book in your Steve way.

00:47:53.710 --> 00:47:59.990
Oh, my God. My nieces are going to freak out because they grew up on that Blue's Clues.

00:48:00.110 --> 00:48:02.750
The first, you know, the first few seasons.

00:48:04.070 --> 00:48:08.950
And it's just, I told my sister, or I told my mom, and my mom told my sister,

00:48:09.030 --> 00:48:11.850
she called, oh, my God, you're going to talk to Steve Burr's?

00:48:12.030 --> 00:48:15.290
No way. Like, she was geeking out so hard. And I'm like, whoa,

00:48:15.650 --> 00:48:22.190
he's had such a huge impact on so many people. Just such a cool guy. Yeah.

00:48:23.390 --> 00:48:30.010
All right. Is it time to read a fan question? It is. It is that time.

00:48:30.490 --> 00:48:34.150
All right, Tori, we got a question here from Curtis the Supreme.

00:48:34.910 --> 00:48:38.110
With two E's. Curtis the Supreme. That's it.

00:48:39.230 --> 00:48:42.910
Okay, here's the question. What would young Carrie and young Tori think of your

00:48:42.910 --> 00:48:46.770
role on Mythbusters, your life now, and what y'all have been up to?

00:48:47.130 --> 00:48:50.110
What would a young Tori think of you? like what.

00:48:50.970 --> 00:48:57.330
God, I don't think young Tori would definitely be like, no way I would.

00:48:57.530 --> 00:49:00.570
I can't do that. There's no way I can do all that stuff.

00:49:00.910 --> 00:49:07.810
I like I'll let him do that. I can't like as a kid looking at people who were on TV.

00:49:08.450 --> 00:49:11.950
It was just like, how do they do that? I remember asking a friend.

00:49:11.970 --> 00:49:16.250
I'm like, how are these people able to like get out there and put themselves

00:49:16.250 --> 00:49:19.370
on national television? I just I can't.

00:49:19.510 --> 00:49:22.110
It would be too much exposure. I'd be too nervous. And they were like,

00:49:22.370 --> 00:49:23.550
they get paid a lot of money.

00:49:23.950 --> 00:49:26.950
And then it's just funny how that became our careers.

00:49:27.330 --> 00:49:32.090
I mean, I as well would not have believed it because I was so painfully shy.

00:49:32.410 --> 00:49:37.410
Yeah. And also just not a performer. I just, I am not somebody who likes getting

00:49:37.410 --> 00:49:41.510
on stage. And I tried out for the high school musical.

00:49:41.690 --> 00:49:46.050
It was Bye Bye Birdie. And I only did it because all of my friends were going to do it.

00:49:46.130 --> 00:49:49.590
And my, my best friend, Brittany's like an amazing dancer and Holly.

00:49:49.590 --> 00:49:52.130
And like they were they were singers they were dancers and they did these great

00:49:52.130 --> 00:49:56.590
tryouts and i like under prepped because i just didn't know what i was doing

00:49:56.590 --> 00:50:04.570
and i i got up there and choked and started to cry oh no i was i it was i it

00:50:04.570 --> 00:50:07.450
was like me and one other kid were the only ones that,

00:50:08.170 --> 00:50:13.450
didn't make it like it was like an automatic you make the chorus or something and they're like nah.

00:50:14.850 --> 00:50:20.890
It's like it's like getting picked last to play sports you were like but now

00:50:20.890 --> 00:50:25.130
being in front of the camera what that's crazy and all the stuff that we've

00:50:25.130 --> 00:50:27.010
done over the years that have been,

00:50:28.100 --> 00:50:32.160
I mean, they've been brave, but they've been brave because they've been terrifying

00:50:32.160 --> 00:50:34.000
and we would do it anyway.

00:50:34.260 --> 00:50:39.320
You know, like you've jumped off of buildings and you freaking hate heights.

00:50:39.520 --> 00:50:46.460
Like we've faced so many fears and have, you know, learned along the way.

00:50:46.660 --> 00:50:52.020
Like the fact that, you know, I walked into Jamie's shop and lied about ever

00:50:52.020 --> 00:50:55.900
being able to use a table saw and just figured it out.

00:50:56.560 --> 00:51:03.460
Like, as a kid, I would never believe that I could be the woman that could do that. Yeah, yeah.

00:51:03.900 --> 00:51:09.580
What advice would you give now as an adult? What advice would you give to the

00:51:09.580 --> 00:51:11.800
young Carrie? It gets better.

00:51:13.220 --> 00:51:17.840
Yeah. And you're going to be okay. Yeah. Like, I was so insecure as a kid,

00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:22.960
and I just really wish that somebody would be like, it's going to be all right.

00:51:23.020 --> 00:51:27.780
It gets better. Yeah, and I feel like a lot of kids, especially...

00:51:28.810 --> 00:51:34.870
Who grew up during the pandemic where it was just, everything was just out of

00:51:34.870 --> 00:51:37.470
control. And it was like fear inducing.

00:51:37.730 --> 00:51:42.350
I just, I wish you could just go and tell every kid, just wait, it gets better.

00:51:42.450 --> 00:51:45.850
It's going to be okay. Like there was times when I was a kid that I was like,

00:51:46.210 --> 00:51:49.150
ah, childhood, this sucks. Like, I don't want to grow up.

00:51:49.330 --> 00:51:52.630
And now looking back, it's like, God, everything turned out fine.

00:51:52.630 --> 00:51:56.610
Like all those fears that you had that you're the worst thing could possibly

00:51:56.610 --> 00:51:58.810
happen usually doesn't happen.

00:51:59.230 --> 00:52:02.730
And it's just like a message that you want to get to these kids.

00:52:02.930 --> 00:52:07.250
It's like, just hang in there. It's going to be OK. I love that. Yeah.

00:52:07.910 --> 00:52:10.770
All right. Well, Carrie, great to see you.

00:52:10.890 --> 00:52:17.530
I'm glad you you got a hold of Steve. That was an amazing interview. So good to talk to him.

00:52:18.010 --> 00:52:21.370
What a cool guy. And I just, I hope everybody goes and listens to his podcast

00:52:21.370 --> 00:52:25.590
and goes and finds him because myth confirmed, he is alive.

00:52:25.830 --> 00:52:29.190
He is alive and well. Steve from Blue's Clues is alive.

00:52:29.570 --> 00:52:32.790
And he's now a Mythfitz. And now he's a Mythfitz.

00:52:33.390 --> 00:52:36.930
Oh, my God. I love that so much. I'm going to put that up on social media somewhere.

00:52:37.130 --> 00:52:39.230
I was like, Mythfitz, what are you doing?

00:52:39.470 --> 00:52:42.370
Like, oh, cool. Let's do it right now.

00:52:43.070 --> 00:52:45.110
All right, Mythfitz. Thanks for tuning in. How are you?

00:52:46.650 --> 00:52:50.510
All right. That's our episode today. Thank you guys for joining us.

00:52:50.650 --> 00:52:53.450
Yep. Stay weird. Stay weird, Mythbiz.

