Right Quick Ep 4 Transcript
Vance: Welcome to Right Quick
Nandi: A bite sized pop culture conversation with your favorite queer unfriendly black hotties.
Vance: Unfriendly today because of toxic fandoms. I'm Vance Gowe
Nandi: and I am Nandi Kay. Yeah, today we're talking about fandoms in general, I guess. Uh, yeah. That's what we're talking about today. (BLEEP) Do you love em? Do you hate do you love em? Do you hate em?
Vance: Uh uh. Mixed feelings. Mixed feelings. Like. I mean, I don't know, I think we're all a part of fandoms, whether we want to be or not. I guess if you like any. If you like media, if you like anything, I guess you're a part of fandom. But, yeah. Um, I really want to talk about this topic because, like, I don't know, it always feels like it's coming up like, uh, what's a good fandom or a bad fandom? So like, yeah, I wanted to ask, um, let's see, do you want to go best or worst or do you want to talk about your faves?
Nandi: Uh. Let's go. Let's first talk about the best fandoms. Let's go from best to worst to complicated figures.
Vance: Okay. So best fandom. Um, I think the best fandom is Godzilla because they all just want to see monsters fight. I feel like Godzilla fans are wholesome. They just want to see monsters throwing hands in the city. Maybe step on the locals. Um, like, I don't know. I love the Godzilla fans like the other monsters more than Godzilla. Like my baby nephew who's smarter than me. He loves Godzilla. And I was like, what do you want for your birthday? And this little Nigglet was like, um, I guess it was like baby Mothra, and it's just a terrifying little larva. Larva. And he loves that thing. So I'm like, yeah, like, I love the wholesomeness of the Godzilla folks.
Nandi: Now, wholesome, I'm gonna push back on the wholesomeness of the Godzilla fandom as a new Godzilla fandom joiner, I joined when Godzilla got ass. So I don't know how wholesome the Godzilla fandom actually is. Is ass wholesome?
Vance: Ass is wholesome!
Nandi: I agree.
I think it's wholesome. I think if you do anything to the ass, that's when it becomes not wholesome. So like if someone's eating the booty or doing other things.
N: Now, I haven't seen any of that. I've simply seen the existence of
L: what are you talking about? The meme where Godzilla is double caked up. Yes, of course, the many memes of Godzilla double caked up. There's not a single one. Is that when you became a fan? Yes, absolutely. Goodbye. Well, really, when he started fighting King Kong, that's really when I was like, oh, I think I'm on Godzilla's side.
Vance: Well, I love the Godzilla vs Kong fight because it's not a contest like, it's a fucking dinosaur that breathes fire. Nuclear fire. Like, what is a monkey gonna do? It's a hate crime, is what it is. But what what, um, what are your favorite fandom or best fandoms, I guess.
Nandi: Okay, so my favorite fandoms, I guess one of my favorite fandoms that I've ever been a part of, real time, was the insecure fandom. And I don't know if it's because it was good, but did I enjoy it? Yes. Like, I enjoy watching with everyone every week. I enjoy the conversation on Twitter R.I.P like Lawrence Hive or Issa Hive. Like I loved like I loved the Molly versus Issa. I feel like there was a lot of, uh, like social things to, like, parse out from like, which side of, like, those kind of conflicts you landed and it was black. That's really why I liked it.
Vance: Insecure, huh? Okay. I remember those times. I remember every Sunday. Well, it's really Monday. Sunday night and Monday we would be ageruing rguing. Just everybody just going at it. Like you remember the biphobia. You remember the Biphobic
Nandi: Langston Kerman, our king, who has risen to prominence in my personal life, who I love. And. Yeah, well, that was when I was like, Issa, you need to mind your straight businesses,
Vance: right? Well, I, I don't know, I think I enjoy fandom, like, okay, so my issue with like the insecure, that's what I don't love about fandoms like talking. So not all the time. Not all the time. Because you know, like I know I love discussing what I like online with my folks, but sometimes the other people's, um, thoughts and ideas like just annoy me and I don't. So some fandoms I'm a quiet fan of because I'm just like, I'll talk about this with my friends. I'll talk about this with people whose opinions I care about, because sometimes when it's so not to say it's open, of course, talk about your I just don't want to do it with you. Because like, I remember insecure was like, sometimes it'd be infuriating because there'd be some girl from your high school, you know, that you knew fifteen years ago being like, “I'm not biphobic, but by men disgust me and I would never look at or date one.” And I'm like, okay, that's not what that word means.
But I'm not biphobic. But I think biphobic men should die, be killed, and never talk to a woman ever again. Right? But I'm not biphobic though.
Vance: I'm not right. And this is like, well, okay, so like those, those are the conversations that, like, just made me itch. But like, I do love the communal aspect of TV, like, you know, like, uh, if you like your coworkers talking about it, you know, the Monday after. I remember Walking Dead and Game of Thrones. Like, those were the shows we're watching together.
Yeah,
I didn't even put Game of Thrones on the list. But yeah, you know why I'm gonna put it on the list. Well, we know where it will fall.
NandiYou know why? Add it in right here as we.

Vance: Yeah. Do it. So, yeah, it's one of the worst fandoms, right? So. Okay, so best of. And then what? Okay. I'm just going to go ahead with the worst. Yeah I think the worst. So I'm not in the Godzilla fandom. Imma be honest. But I do recognize them as a good fandom. The worst, Star Wars!
Nandi: Don't disagree.
Vance: They, I think Star Wars fans hate Star Wars. I think they haven't liked Star Wars since the seventies. Anytime
Nandi: they didn't get it then and they didn't get it the first time,
Vance: they never get it. But I also think like the the quiet part here is like white white men and fandoms like they'll be like, oh, I'm Han Solo, but it's like, no Nigga, you, the stormtrooper, like you, you're the one like you're the one he shot in the face. Like we talk about X-Men. Like they're like, oh, I'm the guy with the laser yes. I'm like, no, you're the bigot holding the picket. Like, every time you you you're the one that criminalising mutants. You're the one he kicks in the neck like you're not. You're not the you're not the heroes here. But like, I don't know. So I think like, bad fandoms come from people not understanding what they're watching. And again, literacy keeps coming up on this podcast. It's a lack of,
Nandi: I mean, I that takes me to Drag Race. Drag race is in one of my worst fandoms. As a queer person who does not consider, like the Drag Race fan base to be queer but mostly white gay men, right? A majority. The racism, the transphobia, the fatphobia of it all, uh, is gross. It's so disgusting. It makes me, I don't really engage with, like Drag Race, the Drag Race fandom at all, except for like you said, I talk to my friends about it, but that's it.
Vance: One of my favorite things about Drag Race is YOU like me and you talk about Drag Race alone. Like, I don't talk about Drag Race publicly, even when I like public viewings of Drag Race is like, oh, go into a room full of gay whites and enjoy a thing like, never can't. Like that's not how I want to spend my Fridays. But like Saturday morning, I treat Drag Race like cartoons. Like Saturday morning. I'll watch, your ass. Always. Done watch it already because you in the future. Yeah, we just message. We talk about it like it's sports. We pick our faves.
Nandi: We do talk about it like it's sport. It is our sports. It's drag race, it's gay sports. It is. It's our.
VaYeah, it's our football. We always know who going to win. We got okay taste.
Nandi:We have great taste. The fans. Yeah. The fandom has terrible taste. is. Well, because we like skinny, beautiful, who they consider beautiful. Who pretty.
Vance: Yeah. Who is pretty. You know, it's goofy. Do you remember last season when they were like, they kept not talking about the clear front runner, which was Anya. And like, they kept talking about the pretty girls and they kept, like, just not mentioning her name. And it's like, y'all like, let's look at the theatre girls. The theater girl. It's like, okay, so you're telling me Anya wasn't a theater girl?
Vance: Stats. Let's look at stats. Who's winning the most? What do you mean? She ain't a front runner because you think she ugly? Because she ain't real skinny. But again, everybody. Right? Everybody should always comes to the front. Which is why I don't like talking about, like. Listen, I know we talked about books a couple weeks ago, but it's the same thing when it's like you're reading a book. I'm in a book club of white people. They don't be getting shit. I'm like, yo, I'm, I work, I may or may not work in education. And the English teachers are the ones missing this shit. I'm like, bitch, this is what you teach. Like, come on. But anyway. Yeah.
Nandi: Another worst fandom Game of Thrones. Just gotta throw that in there. Speaking of racism, speaking of white people not understanding, not getting it their actual place in the story, the way that they made a victim of Daenerys Targaryen imperialist stormborn. Uh, it it upset me,
Vance: but it's I think it's because they naturally trust white women like they they assume white woman's innocence. And then we're watching this white woman just do the thing. And what I'm always talking about when it comes to media literacy, just watch what's happening. You don't have to be that smart. Like this white lady is going to brown people and telling them, like, if you don't do it my way, I'm going to burn you. And then when they don't, she burns them,
N burns them.
VAnce: Hey, y'all good with it? Like, okay, but when it's white people, oh, well, it's a problem. She's evil. She was doing it the whole time you saw it. You watched it. You cheered.
NThey said it didn't count when she was killing those brown real people.
V Those are real people. She was like, wait, what do you mean? Well, okay, so I have a hot take, and my hot take is that there are no good fandoms. Like my hot is no. Fandoms are good. I know we talked about the wholesomeness of Godzilla and that may well be true. Mhm. But especially in the US like you know we had an episode about cults. Everything is very culty here. And I feel like that also seeps into fandoms and makes all fandoms all bad. I was trying to think of like, what is my favorite fandom? And I could not think of one. Mm.
Vance: Okay. I'm just going to go down a list of my favorite fandoms, and I can give some pros and cons, right? X-Men X-Men is my favorite, maybe my favorite IP of all times. Um, the bad parts about the X-Men fandom. White people are in it. Um, white men particularly. But like they do ruin it because they don't get it right. But to the weirdos that love and get X-Men, I love them. Um, She-Ra, I think She-Ra the new one. The new one it has. Okay, it has less white men because it's gay, right? Everybody in there's queer. So like it's less white men than She-Ra. All the male characters are like, support and they're not, like, sad about it. It's not a plot point. They just support. And, um, they're they're secure in their shit. So, like, She-Ra is a really fun fandom to be a part of. Maybe my favorite thinking of it, they're they're a good fandom. Um, interview with the vampire, the TV series.
Okay. Gay
Gay is gay is. Fuck, I hear Lance. There's this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. But I think those fandoms, I think my favorite fandoms have weirdos that understand the the art that they're watching. Right. Um, JoJo's Bizarre Adventures. Yeah. Now, I'm not in that fandom, but I feel like
I am.
VFandom is fun. It's a fun fandom now,
NYes, I do feel like now. This is also another good point. She-Ra was also great. But I think yeah, uh, yeah, that's a JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is like such a fun fandom because the show is high camp. Like, I feel like just who will you capture? Just like the net that that show is going to capture is only capture kind of some misfit toy type of energy. People is high camp, is high homosexual energy,
queer, gay as fuck,
homoerotic but funny. Big unserious big breasted men? Yep. Ridiculous stance muscles? Yes. Right. Little heads. Right. Not little heads.
Big breasts, little head.
Um, yeah. That's what they got. That's what I like. That's what kind of man I like. 2D
Vance avatar. Avatar the last airbender, not them blue people. Um. Fun fandom. What you got,
Korra? I raise you, I raise you. Wait. I raise you the Legend of Korra. No, I like it. I'm saying those are the same people. Yeah. I'm like, that's where, like, the avatar fandom was so good and, like, chill and, like, great. And then when Legend of Korra came out, we actually saw who they really were deep down inside.
VThey showed their asses. They always do.
Yeah, yeah.
Vance: Steven universe. Now.
Nandi: You know, there's a lot of white people in that fandom.
Vance: I know, I know, but I, as you also know, have never watched Steven Universe. Nigga. We we need.
Nandi: Song goes hard, we they go hard. All of it. All of the day. I have a John Legend version that I like to do. I want to hear all this world believes in God, Amethyst and Pearl.
Vance: You're going to get a cease and desist from Krissy Teigen.
Nandi: Uh. He's definitely going to send me a cease and desist. My John Legend impression is too good a fan, a fan.
Vance: Um, that's all I had for my. Oh, there stans here I see stans now, are you a Stan? Are you a Stan?
Nandi: No. Unfortunately, everyone I have ever started to stan got social media over the past fifteen years. And so now I don't like anyone anymore. All the people I do still like are dead. And were dead when I was born as well.
So yeah, I'm not a yeah. I don't identify as a Stan.
Nandi: Donny Hathaway is like someone maybe that I maybe would stand, but I could never know because he was dead long before I was born,
VAnce and Stans was a thing. Yeah, I used to be a Erykah Badu Stan, but she ended that, uh, I used to be a Kanye Stan over.
Vance: I still listen, my my trainer likes to listen to Kanye, and I just be. I just be, like, reliving the glory days because he only listens to the the early days. Yeah, exactly.
Nandi Oh, smart. That's it. I made it all the way to TLP, but that's where I got off the train right after he dropped TLP. He put on that red hat and I said, oh yeah, I can't. I wrote until the wheels fell off. Well, they fell off.
Vance: Yeah, the wheels been gone. They.
Nandi: Yeah. So speaking of like stans I did just because of fandoms like people who are stans are also a part of fandoms, and so I wanted to make sure that all fandoms and fandoms got equal representation. Here on our episode about fandoms, we got possibly the most evil, the most diabolical fandom out there right now. The barbs, the barbs,
the barbs, the barbs are all potential criminals, you know, like they're some of them are some of them have reached high potential high. Um, they're all like Arkham people. Like where it's like, not only insane, but like the criminally insane. Like they'll do crimes, and then it's like they'll do crimes on the behest of, uh, their, their their leader. And that's too much for me. Uh, we probably shouldn't even be talking about the barbs. They're gonna dox us.
Nandi: You're right. Let's move on. Next, the Swifties. Now, the Swifties are in a particular, uh, right now. They're in a pretty interesting time. Taylor Swift is fully come unveiled as a white supremacist.
VAnce. Is she? I mean, I knew I'm not. I'm never surprised by this information.
Nandi: I don't know if she heard her song when she was like. But I'm not a bad bitch. Oh, the savage one. The savage. She called us savages. Or me with the black hood, bitch. And she's gonna have a fat ass anyway. She's a really great know. A comedian did a version of it that was just like. Taylor is afraid that her her fiance, who used to date black women, is gonna go back to dating black women because she said she had a bad ass and I don't have no titties. She did say now, she did say she is not a bad bitch. That's so embarrassing. That's her whole that's her whole shtick, though, is like, I'm not a cheerleader. I do my homework. You have a billion dollars in your blonde and skinny. Like you don't even have to try to be a five ten blonde and skinny. She's not just blonde and skinny. She's also tall All Barbie doll like, and you have a billion dollars. You could be ugly as hell with a billion dollars, you know, like she. I'm not trying to say I wouldn't. I can't say Taylor Swift is a bad bitch, but I'm just saying, like, to not identify as a bad bitch is certainly a choice to not identify as a bad bitch. What? You're not a bad bitch. Maybe the baddest bitch of all who, unfortunately, has also taken a recession indicator turn into wearing nationalist propaganda. Sweet, sweet. Be our sweet. Our lord, our queen. Beyonce. Oh, the queen can't. Yeah, the baddest bitch. Possibly her fans are a little more well than the barbz. But similar energy. Yeah, but not by much. And I also think they're. I think they're, I think they're only chiller than the bars because they're queen don't address them. She don't give them anything. So they're emaciated. They're hungry. They need nutrients from their queens. I think they're focused on that, which is why she's starving them on purpose. She does that on purpose. She's smart. She doesn't give them anything. You have to imagine giving them too much. They would be so powerful if they like. Imagine like if the beehive was active. Like the Barb's like they used to be, like ten years ago. Like they did. Used to be active. They did. But like that anymore. Emaciated. Bitch. Hungry. Thirsty. Please acknowledge us so she won't. Um. But. Yeah. No. The beehive. I won't say too much because again, Doc's like, I have small children in my life. I don't need them harming them. But yeah, I don't want my family harmed either. We all want to be on this podcast. We love Beyonce beehive. We love she's the Queen. No one is more talented than her booty. Well, I don't want to objectify her. That's not nice. Oh I do, I'm gay, so I think it is a little bit, I think just I want to treat her like I treat everyone. That's fair. She do got big old booty. I hope that, well, she keeps that booty is she? Let that booty free. Who knows what will happen? Because she's from Houston. She has a Houston booty. She. If she let it just do what it did, it'd be all over the yard, roaming, roaming the earth. Mhm. Yeah. She couldn't Jay-Z would have to go like um yeah I think well I think her fans are united in that, that Jay-Z needs to go. Like I think they're all I don't know I saw I thought that but then like she brought him out on stage on this Cowboy Carter tour and people were like happy. And I was like, I thought we hated her baby daddy. But I feel like they don't want to make her mad, so they're going to do what they want when she's they're going to like, do what they think she wants them to do. And her face, she's not going to give them any emotions, make her mad. She's not going to give them any emotions. They're may say that because of that. Yes. Um, well are we are we coming to the end of our, um, our fandom talk? I think we are. I mean, I think I think you convinced me. I take back my hot take. There's a couple good fandoms out there. They can be. Are you really gay? Shira, I think, was the really good one that you gave a great argument for. There can be. And I mean, we can't be a part of fandoms because we don't have the time. But I think the marks of a good fandom are like, they get the source material. They themselves are a little weird. They're not like doing the opposite of what their thing is preaching. So like, if your thing is like anti-empire, you're not pro empire. Like if it's anti-bigotry, you're not a bigot, which is like Star Wars or X-Men fans, what they don't get. So yeah, all of that. Right. But anyway, um, yeah, I maintain that like there are some that's my stance. There are some good fandoms. I love to be a part of them. I like to talk about them publicly and privately. Um, so you can create your own fandoms. Like, that's what I was going to say to your point is, just when you talk about things with your people, even if it's just you two or three. You know, that's also a little fandom. So we can create our own little fandoms that are fun and safe and, you know, are full of people who, you know, meet that good fandom criteria. Everyone needs to start. Uh, we're just going to suggest we won't charge for this, but we're just going to suggest to all the fandoms that were mentioned here, all the fandoms. If y'all want to start having an application where y'all have this checklist to have y'all come in, y'all can just credit us. Simply credit us, Nordic and Vance. Go. You said it. Um, don't take us home. Uh, yeah. Today's episode is sponsored by the Gay agenda. Life is too short. Be gay today, period. Bitch. I'm Vance. Go. You can find me arguing online about X-Men, and I'm Non-dc. You can find me on Instagram and threads at non-dc. Big thanks to our producer and audio Adonis, Aaron Freeman, and we'll see you next time. Love you. But I'm not a black bitch. And I'm not a sad. But I'm scared that you might cheat on me with a black hood bitch. And she's gonna have a fat ass. And I have a flat ass. And I don't have no titties for your last ex. She has some perky titties. And I'm a insecure white girl with a flat chest. Thinking that I want a man that used to date black women. And now I'm taking Can, Qais? Cause he's all that I got. Oh yeah. He's all that I got. And I'm never gonna let him down. Cause he's all American white man. And I'm his American white girl. And he's never gonna be down for the swirl again. Because I have the crown and I won. Ha, ha. But I'm a little insecure because he might cheat on me with a black hood woman. Right quick is a podcast for the Agenda Productions, created by and co-hosted by Vance Gao. Aaron Freeman is our mouthy producer, audio production by Aaron Freeman, the music by Luc Sante, art by Sonya Honeycutt.