<v Speaker 1>Jare you Katy and Josh six one hundred.

<v Speaker 2>This guy did say please, don't use my name, so

<v Speaker 2>I just gave him a generic dude name, Jason. We

<v Speaker 2>got Jason here, wrote in. Jason says, hey, JKJ. I

<v Speaker 2>never thought i'd be that guy writing in about a

<v Speaker 2>borderline scandal, but here i am. I'm recently divorced, trying

<v Speaker 2>to rebuild my life. Last week, I'm in a line

<v Speaker 2>at a food truck outside a brewery, and I hear

<v Speaker 2>a woman say my name, Say my name, say my name,

<v Speaker 2>he says. I turned around and it was her, our

<v Speaker 2>old babysitter. Oh, he said, Back when my ex wife

<v Speaker 2>and I hired her, I was twenty seven, she was sixteen,

<v Speaker 2>a literal teen. She watched our kids. I paid her.

<v Speaker 2>We barely exchanged more than quote we'll be back by

<v Speaker 2>ten into story. Now I'm thirty three, she's twenty two,

<v Speaker 2>fully grown, confident, gorgeous and out of nowhere. There was

<v Speaker 2>real sparks, real ones, he said again. We ended up

<v Speaker 2>grabbing coffee and talking for two hours. It felt easy, natural, honestly,

<v Speaker 2>the most alive I've felt since the divorce. Now here's

<v Speaker 2>the problem. I can't stop thinking about her. Is this wrong?

<v Speaker 2>She used to watch my kids, she used to work

<v Speaker 2>for me and my ex wife. If word gets out,

<v Speaker 2>I already know the reactions. My ex wife will absolutely detonate.

<v Speaker 2>My friends would roast me into dust. Her parents would

<v Speaker 2>probably assume I've been plotting this since she was sixteen

<v Speaker 2>then he wrote ew and everyone else. I can already

<v Speaker 2>feel the silent judgment. But at the same time, we're

<v Speaker 2>adults now, nothing ever happened back then, and the connection

<v Speaker 2>is real. I haven't made a big move yet, but

<v Speaker 2>she made it pretty clear that she's probably open to one. So, guys,

<v Speaker 2>am I being creepy? Or am I overthinking something that's

<v Speaker 2>technically fine? Would any of you date somebody who once

<v Speaker 2>babysat your kids? That was signed from please don't use

<v Speaker 2>my name? And that was Jason. So if you guys

<v Speaker 2>want to sound off about this, Jason's situation bumped into

<v Speaker 2>the babysitter at a brewery older now pretty sparks. Should

<v Speaker 2>he go for it? Three oh three six nine one

<v Speaker 2>one mix three oh three six nine one sixteen forty nine.

<v Speaker 2>Phone lines are wide open for show wants to know. Okatie,

<v Speaker 2>you already went ew, I'd.

<v Speaker 1>Been ewing over here for like the whole time. Why

<v Speaker 1>are you oweing? I just can't. I can't get down

<v Speaker 1>with this.

<v Speaker 3>I think that the fact that there's already been a

<v Speaker 3>relationship established with the family as the babysitter. Here's the

<v Speaker 3>thing is, it doesn't I know a lot of the

<v Speaker 3>times we say things like, you know, you can't let

<v Speaker 3>what other people think of you decide what you do

<v Speaker 3>in life.

<v Speaker 1>Well, this is one of those things.

<v Speaker 3>You can actually care about what other people think of you,

<v Speaker 3>because you're not just you know, thinking about you know,

<v Speaker 3>what your wife's gonna do or your ex wife likes

<v Speaker 3>that's one thanks, she's a okay, that's one thing you're

<v Speaker 3>kidding off. Your kids are going to be so confused

<v Speaker 3>over this, your friends, you may lose friends over this

<v Speaker 3>because people are gonna say, that's not a solid move,

<v Speaker 3>my dude, Like if.

<v Speaker 4>You're forty four and she's thirty three three, not.

<v Speaker 3>Only that, not only that, but you are gonna find

<v Speaker 3>instances in which you are not in the same place

<v Speaker 3>in life, and it is gonna be frustrating to you.

<v Speaker 1>Like, on top of all those other things, thirty three.

<v Speaker 2>Two is not that years those what are you talking.

<v Speaker 2>It's not that it's not a Bill Belichick's it's not

<v Speaker 2>a Bill Belichick.

<v Speaker 3>But that's a big difference in age to the point

<v Speaker 3>where you are doing things in your life. Think about

<v Speaker 3>where you are in your thirties versus where are you

<v Speaker 3>in your younger twenty.

<v Speaker 2>And that's where she's at as well.

<v Speaker 3>And and another thing to this, it doesn't matter. If

<v Speaker 3>you didn't plan it, people will think you did. And

<v Speaker 3>that is her side of the family's gonna hate you.

<v Speaker 3>I already know that because they're gonna think that you

<v Speaker 3>preyed upon their little girl and you're.

<v Speaker 1>A presiatory six years later the puriod. No, it doesn't matter.

<v Speaker 1>People are gonna think.

<v Speaker 2>I don't know about it.

<v Speaker 3>I just think this is there are eight billion people

<v Speaker 3>on the planet and this is the one you picked.

<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know, you can't help it when they're spark

<v Speaker 2>if you can't. He hasn't picked it yet. No, I

<v Speaker 2>know they I wouldn't even say they rekindled. There was nothing.

<v Speaker 1>There was nothing there.

<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, she says, Hey, they go grab

<v Speaker 2>a coffee, catch up, and he's like, wow, we're both

<v Speaker 2>adults now. She's twenty two.

<v Speaker 1>Years old and he's thirty three, and.

<v Speaker 2>She's great with kids apparently, so she could totally slide

<v Speaker 2>in and be new mom.

<v Speaker 4>I just think the like age gap doesn't matter. That's

<v Speaker 4>why I said, if he was forty four and thirty three,

<v Speaker 4>age gap doesn't matter. That the eleven year or ten year,

<v Speaker 4>whatever difference. It's not like if she and another thing

<v Speaker 4>is I will say this, Men tend to mature a

<v Speaker 4>little bit later. They might be at the same maturity level.

<v Speaker 2>You don't know that.

<v Speaker 4>I mean, she might be a very mature twenty two

<v Speaker 4>year old and they meet at this brewery and then

<v Speaker 4>things start to rekindle.

<v Speaker 1>Like you said, they thought of her.

<v Speaker 4>He never once thought of her like that when she

<v Speaker 4>worked for.

<v Speaker 3>This makes me cringe, like I am grossed out by this.

<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he had acted when.

<v Speaker 4>She was younger.

<v Speaker 2>Ye he even wrote, Oh he didn't. Life has gone on.

<v Speaker 2>He was married, he had kids, they divorced, they moved on.

<v Speaker 2>Now she's a grown woman. It's fine, It really is fine.

<v Speaker 2>It's just the optics of having it be an older,

<v Speaker 2>previous babysitter.

<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, it's just the optics.

<v Speaker 2>Hey, bull lines are open three O three six nine

<v Speaker 2>one mix three oh three six nine one sixteen forty nine.

<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, Katie, Oh no, just you are going to

<v Speaker 3>ruin so many relationships. That's my problem with this is

<v Speaker 3>I don't even think he's realizing the repercussions from everyone

<v Speaker 3>in his life. Who's going to judge him. He thinks

<v Speaker 3>it's silent judging. No, people are going to be very

<v Speaker 3>vocal about this judgment.

<v Speaker 2>I can or his buddy's gonna be like buddies'll probably

<v Speaker 2>have a twenty two year old, full grown, confident, gorgeous woman.

<v Speaker 2>According to the email, his buddies aren't gonna be like, dude,

<v Speaker 2>we can hang out with you anymore.

<v Speaker 3>I don't know care like, but do you really I

<v Speaker 3>think that the couple's friends, like you think that buddy

<v Speaker 3>dude who has his wife, who was friends with his wife.

<v Speaker 1>Is gonna let you think the wife is gonna let

<v Speaker 1>homie hang out with him anymore when he's out, you know, hanging.

<v Speaker 2>Out connect with you. I think you understand.

<v Speaker 1>Faithful and loyalty.

<v Speaker 2>Is it just because this guy?

<v Speaker 3>I don't lery what's gonna happen If this guy does this?

<v Speaker 1>So many things are going to change for him.

<v Speaker 2>But she's not.

<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter. It does not matter.

<v Speaker 2>Both mature do not matter.

<v Speaker 1>People will judge, and you're gonna ruin relationships. And I've

<v Speaker 1>just really.

<v Speaker 2>Judge you if I worried forty year old woman.

<v Speaker 3>I am worried about the kids in this situation because

<v Speaker 3>when I was single looking to find someone and Zoe

<v Speaker 3>was little and I was having to have her in

<v Speaker 3>the equation, there were so many things that ran through

<v Speaker 3>my head as far as introducing her to somebody, and

<v Speaker 3>if he is going to introduce his kids to there're

<v Speaker 3>gonna babies the readership.

<v Speaker 2>She knows what food they probably like, what time their

<v Speaker 2>bedtime is. And again it's some six years later too

<v Speaker 2>under these kids might not even really remember this base

<v Speaker 2>level of therapy.

<v Speaker 1>These kids are going to have to go through.

<v Speaker 2>Like no, how fired up? So many people texting.

<v Speaker 5>In right now?

<v Speaker 1>Hi Megan, Hello, Hello.

<v Speaker 2>So what do you think Jason should do?

<v Speaker 6>I think he should not pursue this. I'm with Katie

<v Speaker 6>like I am thirty three, and when I talk to

<v Speaker 6>my twenty two year old coworkers, we live in a

<v Speaker 6>different world. So I don't I don't think it can

<v Speaker 6>work out, and I don't think that it's worth the

<v Speaker 6>stress and the pain of it all.

<v Speaker 2>What if she's very mature for twenty two and she's

<v Speaker 2>got her head on her shoulders and they are connecting.

<v Speaker 6>I mean they're still in different parts of life, like

<v Speaker 6>he's already gone through the marriage and the kids. And

<v Speaker 6>I mean, if she just jumps in right at that

<v Speaker 6>point where he's at, she's going to miss out on

<v Speaker 6>a lot.

<v Speaker 2>Or she might fall in love and love his part

<v Speaker 2>of life.

<v Speaker 6>I can't with you.

<v Speaker 7>I know, there's always a possibility.

<v Speaker 1>I mean, why does everything have to be glass half empty?

<v Speaker 2>Why can't it be glass half full? She's like, I

<v Speaker 2>love your kids. I worked with your nanny or babysitter

<v Speaker 2>for years. They apparently like going to breweries and again

<v Speaker 2>food trucks. They might like be perfect for each other.

<v Speaker 6>I don't know. I think I'm sorry.

<v Speaker 2>It sounds like you might need a baby.

<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the garbage truck just came by, and he's very excited.

<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Hey, I'm a grown man and I get that.

<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, all right, but I'm putting you firmly

<v Speaker 2>though in camp don't do it right?

<v Speaker 6>Yes? And also, who chose that song?

<v Speaker 2>No dignity?

<v Speaker 8>Might well done.

<v Speaker 2>You're welcome. You're welcome. I'm glad somebody caught it, Megan,

<v Speaker 2>I caught it.

<v Speaker 6>All right.

<v Speaker 2>We're gonna let you go control your children. Have a

<v Speaker 2>great day. That's awesome. Hi Cynthia, Hi, good morning everybody.

<v Speaker 1>Well, good morning for you.

<v Speaker 2>So welcome to show. Wants to know what do you

<v Speaker 2>want to tell Jason, who's thinking about pursuing the old babysitter.

<v Speaker 5>Well, if I told the guy who answered the phone,

<v Speaker 5>it's not just a no, it's a hell.

<v Speaker 1>Now, hell yeah, hell?

<v Speaker 2>Why are you so hell no on this?

<v Speaker 5>I've been divorced and there's a certain phase that I

<v Speaker 5>refer to as the hummingbird phase. And Jason is newly separated,

<v Speaker 5>and I'm twenty two year old, beautiful young woman paying

<v Speaker 5>attention to him is very, very attractive, but it's not

<v Speaker 5>necessarily the basis for a solid relationship. And I just

<v Speaker 5>think I don't think he's thinking with the right head.

<v Speaker 5>That's that's my opinion.

<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, let's try to keep it.

<v Speaker 4>Peacha.

<v Speaker 2>Trying to keep it Peacha. Yeah, you know. Funny, For

<v Speaker 2>as much as I'm playing Devil's advocate, I made a

<v Speaker 2>note on my pa paper here that it just says, uh,

<v Speaker 2>you know, it feels good when somebody bats their eyes

<v Speaker 2>at you after a divorce and it's things have fallen

<v Speaker 2>apart for you and somebody is like giving you attention.

<v Speaker 2>We would all love that, right, Yeah, so that might

<v Speaker 2>be what this guy is feeling in your hummingburn phase.

<v Speaker 3>I like the Yeah, I've never heard that before, but

<v Speaker 3>that makes total sense, like that tracks and.

<v Speaker 5>Not only that. I used to babysit the kids with

<v Speaker 5>the families on either side of the house where I

<v Speaker 5>grew up, and all I can say is dick if

<v Speaker 5>even one of the dads ever came on.

<v Speaker 2>To me like el right correct ol, So.

<v Speaker 5>No, I cannot align. I'm sorry, No, let them. There's

<v Speaker 5>a million women here in town, but it has to

<v Speaker 5>be her. Come on, I know it's going to cause

<v Speaker 5>too much trouble for people.

<v Speaker 1>Thank you too much, drama, Cynthia.

<v Speaker 2>We love your passion. This is why we do this.

<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having a song and giving us a call.

<v Speaker 2>Appreciate you, Jason.

<v Speaker 5>Hang in there, You'll find somebody else your age.

<v Speaker 2>Yes, bom bye, Cynthia by By. Oh you're so short

<v Speaker 2>on time on this. Let's do one more. Here's Cassidy.

<v Speaker 2>Hi Cassidy, Hello, Hi.

<v Speaker 8>Kind of cut and dry with this, so I'm you know,

<v Speaker 8>I don't have kids and i've you know, never had

<v Speaker 8>a babysitter. That's why. So that's my disclaimer. So I

<v Speaker 8>might sound a little naive, but I don't see the

<v Speaker 8>problem with this if you my opinion on it, as

<v Speaker 8>I guess, if you go through life trying to do

<v Speaker 8>what whatever one thinks is you know, ethical and that

<v Speaker 8>sort of thing, especially when it involves like love or feelings,

<v Speaker 8>then you know, maybe you'll never have the chance to

<v Speaker 8>actually be happy. And I think that, you know, the

<v Speaker 8>essence of love in and of itself is that you

<v Speaker 8>you know, ever, you know, most people strive for it,

<v Speaker 8>and you may never find true love. Hey, you know,

<v Speaker 8>unless you try to break boundaries and that sort of thing.

<v Speaker 8>And I'm not saying that it's gonna work out for

<v Speaker 8>this guy, but you know, maybe date a little bit.

<v Speaker 8>Don't go out and tell everybody you're dating. I know

<v Speaker 8>that seems kind of underhanded, but you can maybe see

<v Speaker 8>if there's something there.

<v Speaker 2>And I like that point too. Just you don't have

<v Speaker 2>to tell every thing. You can just quietly do this test,

<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't hate to say test run, but

<v Speaker 2>test test run this relationship for a month or two.

<v Speaker 2>Nobody has to know, and you can make a decision

<v Speaker 2>from there versus just one coffee date as well. So

<v Speaker 2>you're spot on with that, and I just and Cassidy's

<v Speaker 2>very much a glass half full guy too, kind of like, yeah,

<v Speaker 2>I feel like, ye, so short on time, but we

<v Speaker 2>appreciate you calling in, although I feel like I still

<v Speaker 2>man a tiptoe backwards from this whole topic.

<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you don't think it's the best idea.

<v Speaker 2>I just think I don't know.

<v Speaker 3>My process says, what if this happens? What if, like

<v Speaker 3>you know, they say, they go on a few dates

<v Speaker 3>or whatever, and he's like, oh my gosh, I really

<v Speaker 3>liked her. I'm so glad I actually move forward with this.

<v Speaker 3>And then they go back to her house and he

<v Speaker 3>goes in her room and her bed is covered in

<v Speaker 3>stuffed animals, and.

<v Speaker 2>He's like, she's.

<v Speaker 1>Like what if.

<v Speaker 7>He doesn't realize is until he's like hit with it,

<v Speaker 7>and he's like, what if she's like the boo boo

<v Speaker 7>crazy and he's not ready for it, And it's like

<v Speaker 7>all of a sudden, he's like she's not seven. What

<v Speaker 7>do you think.

<v Speaker 3>Twenty two is a very I have a twenty two

<v Speaker 3>year old.

<v Speaker 7>I know what they do, and they collect la boobus.

<v Speaker 2>We got to get into her break.

<v Speaker 1>I'm done.

<v Speaker 2>I's not covering his stuffed animals on the boo boos.

<v Speaker 2>I really don't.

<v Speaker 6>I know it is.

<v Speaker 2>I know when you go back to Katie's room, it's

<v Speaker 2>that's fine, that's fine, this.

<v Speaker 1>Is just a girl. Fine.

<v Speaker 2>I guess if you went back to my room would

<v Speaker 2>be all he man exactly. Anyway, Yeah, we gotta Oh,

<v Speaker 2>we're still behind. We got to get into the break

<v Speaker 2>in traffic. But I mean, according to the text coming

<v Speaker 2>in and we'll say two to one on the phones

<v Speaker 2>of you should probably pass this up, dude, and just

<v Speaker 2>move on and maybe try to find somebody a little

<v Speaker 2>older that doesn't have the label of my previous babysitter

<v Speaker 2>attached to hers. Yeah,