01:24.30
Vance 😈
Welcome to Right Quick.
01:27.42
Nandi K
A bite-sized pop culture conversation with your favorite queer, unfriendly black hotties.
01:33.36
Vance 😈
We are unfriendly today because of dry mac and cheese. And I am Vance Gowe.
01:38.63
Nandi K
Ew. And I'm Nandi K. I hate dry mac and cheese. Yeah.
01:43.92
Vance 😈
it It's offensive to me and my ancestors.
01:46.58
Nandi K
Yeah. yeah
01:48.10
Vance 😈
um I think if you can't, I mean, we're already getting into the topic, but like if you can't make mac and cheese, simply don't.
01:56.27
Nandi K
You need to practice all year, which, you know, today's topic, yeah by yourself, just for you to eat.
01:58.53
Vance 😈
You need to practice alone.
02:01.88
Vance 😈
Yup.
02:02.86
Nandi K
And so to introduce our topic, today we're talking about uh thanks-taking, also known as Thanksgiving.
02:03.03
Vance 😈
Yup.
02:09.67
Vance 😈
Thanksgiving.
02:11.82
Nandi K
uh There's some other names, Turkey Day, Mashed Potato Day,
02:14.23
Vance 😈
Turkey Day. um Colonizer's holiday.
02:20.40
Nandi K
yeah and obviously of the ever-popular pre-Christmas.
02:24.13
Vance 😈
Pre-Christmas.
02:25.71
Nandi K
ah
02:25.75
Vance 😈
is Yeah, it's what you do before Christmas.
02:26.72
Nandi K
But yeah, if you can't make mac and cheese, here's the thing. Thanksgiving is in November. You have from December to November to be making mac and cheese at least once a month because it's not like mac and cheese is like something you only have on the holidays.
02:35.73
Vance 😈
Yup. Yup.
02:44.77
Nandi K
We have mac and cheese at least once a month in my house.
02:47.43
Vance 😈
Right. And I mean, I think at this point in humanity 2000, whatever year we in, you could go on TikTok and get a, like a Instagram, Facebook, wherever you like, you can get a competent recipe.
02:52.88
Nandi K
Sure.
03:00.36
Nandi K
Yeah.
03:00.57
Vance 😈
And if you're a decent cook, you can make that work, you know? So like when people still be doing the dry or like the Velveetss, you know, the Velveeta only people.
03:04.05
Nandi K
Yeah.
03:08.13
Nandi K
Whoa. Hold on. Well, Velveeta only.
03:09.73
Vance 😈
You do the Velveeta only?
03:11.17
Nandi K
Not Velveeta only. Okay.
03:13.80
Vance 😈
Can't do it.
03:13.98
Nandi K
You said Velveeta only.
03:14.27
Vance 😈
But we know Velveeta. The melt on Velveeta is next level because...
03:18.28
Nandi K
You must have the all the best mac and cheeses have Velveeta in them. Purr.
03:24.36
Vance 😈
but i can't speak on that.
03:26.05
Nandi K
yeah Well, I'm sorry to hear that. I got gotta say, i did.
03:28.25
Vance 😈
you saw my picture. Nandi You saw my picture. picture.
03:31.11
Nandi K
i did, but now that you're telling me there's no Velveeta, my eyes are not...
03:34.42
Vance 😈
Oh my God. you saw You saw the aftermath. We're going to have to post the picture in the episode notes.
03:38.65
Nandi K
Yeah, but *beep*, I'm from the Deep South. My bar is so high on mac and cheese.
03:42.40
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm.
03:45.13
Nandi K
The grandmothers, the black women who have made mac and cheese. Shaun. Shaun's mac and cheese...
03:55.40
Nandi K
incredible which we have like i said at least once a month and we always make too much so we can freeze it so we and we freeze it b like but you know pre-bake and then you freeze it and then you take it out and then you just bake it and then it's perfect it's so good but it has Velveeta you have to add a little bit of velveta it has velveta
03:59.33
Vance 😈
I need pictures.
04:02.20
Vance 😈
Mm hmm.
04:06.56
Vance 😈
Yeah. And then you go back it.
04:15.02
Vance 😈
Because of that melt.
04:17.43
Nandi K
You do like Velveeta and then you do like a sharp cheddar, a mozzarella, maybe a mild cheddar and like a Gouda or something. Something that has a little smoky and that also has a little melt.
04:29.12
Nandi K
Like Gouda is like a good melty cheese.
04:29.96
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm.
04:31.16
Nandi K
And then you do Velveeta with that.
04:34.27
Vance 😈
My secret is smoked cheddar on the top.
04:34.27
Nandi K
Yeah.
04:36.83
Vance 😈
And ah could put a shoe in there and they'd be like, nigga, what did you do to this?
04:37.40
Nandi K
Yeah.
04:40.14
Nandi K
Yeah, exactly. I'm like smoked any any smoked cheeses. Smoked Gouda is my favorite cheese. why It tastes like I'm like, baby, I love...
04:45.92
Vance 😈
Yes. Mm-hmm. That's smoked.
04:50.81
Nandi K
Okay, well, let's talk about some of your favorite...
04:51.00
Vance 😈
Period. Period.
04:55.36
Nandi K
Well, we're talking about food, so let's talk let's keep talking about like favorite meals. We talked about mac and cheese. Obviously a banger. Everyone wants it when it's made right.
05:03.57
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm.
05:06.92
Vance 😈
Yeah, so I did want to go... well I don't know. I feel like this is a leading question, but who cares? um Do you prefer the sides or the mains?
05:17.51
Nandi K
I think overall, probably the sides, because there's always more sides.
05:21.30
Vance 😈
Yes, that's the right answer.
05:24.19
Nandi K
Like, there's more sides than mains.
05:24.66
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm. More variety as well.
05:27.10
Nandi K
Yeah, there's just more sides, just sheer amount. Like, you don't need that many mains.
05:30.07
Vance 😈
Yeah.
05:31.26
Nandi K
There's like a ham, a turkey, chitlins, you know, a pork, you know.
05:33.82
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm. Mm.
05:36.67
Nandi K
There's a pork, a chicken. ah Sometimes people will do a beef. I know Shaun's mom sometimes does, like, brisket.
05:41.60
Vance 😈
A fish.
05:43.72
Nandi K
Yeah, yeah, Shaun's mom does brisket.
05:45.42
Vance 😈
A prime rib. That's a popular one.
05:47.40
Nandi K
Yeah, that is a popular one. Yeah. Yeah.
05:49.84
Vance 😈
I'm in the market for a new main protein. Because, you know, I mean, once again, what we're at in the in the age of cooking, I think you can get a good turkey at this point. Like, you know, like, I think you can figure it out. You're going brine it.
06:02.26
Vance 😈
You're going to stuff it with, you know, whatever. The the kitchen sink.
06:05.00
Nandi K
Yeah.
06:06.32
Vance 😈
going the thing. You could get a good turkey today. But I think turkey's overrated for all the energy that you got to put in it.
06:11.53
Nandi K
It's not that good. i agree. And it's so much like food, right? Turkey is not, don't really be hittin like that.
06:16.98
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm.
06:20.10
Nandi K
Like I do love a turkey sandwich. Don't get me wrong.
06:23.62
Vance 😈
The next day, absolutely a leftover turkey sandwich with the stuffing and the cranberries.
06:25.88
Nandi K
The little, the leftover sandwich. Yes, exactly. Shaun loves that. Shaun loves it. That's Shaun's favorite.
06:31.89
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm.
06:32.16
Nandi K
like
06:32.83
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm.
06:32.93
Nandi K
we Yeah, that goes hard.
06:34.39
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm.
06:35.41
Nandi K
um i also like sweet potato pie for breakfast. That's like my favorite thing about after Thanksgiving because the day after Thanksgiving for breakfast, I'm having sweet potato pie and ham.
06:46.42
Nandi K
That's what I'm having for breakfast.
06:46.46
Vance 😈
That sound fire. That sound like, you know, when they get the apple pie on TV.
06:48.42
Nandi K
Yeah.
06:50.96
Vance 😈
You be who eat like this? That's what that sound like, but not in a bad way, though.
06:53.01
Nandi K
Me.
06:54.32
Vance 😈
That sound, I want it.
06:54.53
Nandi K
Me.
06:56.61
Aaron Rand Freeman
Thank you.
06:56.98
Vance 😈
I need it.
06:57.26
Nandi K
Yeah, it's good.
06:58.02
Vance 😈
Um.
06:58.02
Nandi K
Yeah.
06:59.63
Vance 😈
just Okay, we said mac and cheese, of course. um I got to give my girl green beans.
07:06.26
Nandi K
You know, she doesn't get the shine that she deserves.
07:09.34
Vance 😈
I think she is like right up there with mac and cheese and no one talks about Because like even white people, even white people green beans, like a green bean casserole, like.
07:13.86
Nandi K
You know why.
07:17.97
Nandi K
Was just about to say, so some people be shitting on green bean casserole. I'm sorry, green bean casserole bangs.
07:22.64
Vance 😈
Nah, nah, they ate, they ate.
07:25.28
Nandi K
When black people make, again, Nigrahs got a hold of it.
07:26.26
Vance 😈
Mm hmm.
07:30.37
Nandi K
And once Nigrahs got a hold of it, there ain't nothing you can do to make them turn them loose.
07:32.38
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm.
07:35.59
Vance 😈
It'd be getting that turn of blue sauce. It'd be having a little mini mushrooms in it. um the The onions.
07:41.93
Nandi K
oh cream of mushroom and you put the cream of mushroom soup i'm sorry when a recipe has a can of soup i for i keep cans of soup like that i just bought some cream of mushroom in my house just the other day when i went grocery shopping because you never know when you gonna need it
07:43.38
Vance 😈
Don't cream a mushroom.
07:56.14
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm.
07:59.87
Vance 😈
Look, Campbell's. Campbell did that. i ain't going to hold him. So, yes. ah Green beans.
08:04.02
Nandi K
yeah
08:04.90
Vance 😈
I'm trying to think. Yams.
08:07.47
Nandi K
I, okay here's the thing.
08:07.56
Vance 😈
Y'all can keep them, but.
08:10.09
Nandi K
I never liked anyone's yams because in the South, a lot of people be serving canned yams. And i don't like canned yams.
08:16.81
Vance 😈
Nah.
08:19.55
Nandi K
I only eat Shaun's yams. I won't eat anyone else's yams because Shaun bakes them and roasts them in the oven. And those are delicious.
08:28.25
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm.
08:30.16
Nandi K
I will eat a roast.
08:30.23
Vance 😈
It got the marshmallows.
08:32.04
Nandi K
No, no, no. It's not a like a, that's like a sweet potato souffle. That's past yams.
08:36.15
Vance 😈
Yeah, I can't do that either.
08:38.41
Nandi K
This is, is this just sweet potatoes? And Shaun does like orange juice and like, it's like, it has like a little syrup that it like sits in and get, and it gets nice and crispy and it's soft on it.
08:46.41
Vance 😈
hmm.
08:50.73
Nandi K
Ooh. And then I'd be like, I only want my sweet potato sweet now.
08:52.36
Vance 😈
That's.
08:54.69
Nandi K
So yeah, because they're so good.
08:56.26
Vance 😈
Yeah, no, that's fair. ah
08:58.41
Nandi K
They're really good. But Shaun made me like yams. I wouldn't eat yams for my whole life before that.
09:03.39
Vance 😈
Do Shaun send recipes?
09:05.76
Nandi K
I mean, we could, i sent you the sweet, I sent you the yams recipe before because I told you I was making that sweet potato syrup, which I burned.
09:14.12
Vance 😈
Yes.
09:14.98
Nandi K
And so I could not, I forgot about it. I was multitasking and I burned it, but I bought a sweet potato recently. So can try make it again.
09:22.45
Vance 😈
Look, send pictures.
09:23.09
Nandi K
Uh,
09:23.75
Vance 😈
um That is something that I love ah for the holidays. I need to see them pictures. i need Look, if you tell me about food and you don't send me pictures, that means you don't fuck with me. Because I need to see.
09:32.66
Nandi K
I feel like that is like, I don't be thinking about taking pictures when I'm eating.
09:37.24
Vance 😈
ah know. And you never do. And I'll be mad.
09:39.32
Nandi K
No, I, the food be gone. I be telling y'all how good it was. I be like, yo, I just had such a, not a single picture to be found.
09:48.57
Vance 😈
And then every time, what do I say? Pics? Question mark.
09:51.61
Nandi K
Yeah, and i mean I'm not thinking about that. It's like, this is like, this is what I'd be like, who I hate.
09:54.41
Vance 😈
I'll be livid. Arthur meme.
09:58.13
Nandi K
This is why I like hate social media, because I'm like, what is the pic going do? was' just You just want to share the experience?
10:03.69
Vance 😈
it
10:05.98
Vance 😈
It's a visual aid.
10:06.07
Nandi K
I'll try to take more pics. Okay, fine.
10:07.96
Vance 😈
It's a visual aid. Like, I don't need you to post it on your wall.
10:09.50
Nandi K
and Okay.
10:10.96
Vance 😈
I need a personal picture.
10:12.73
Nandi K
Fair. No, I understand. I see that. I see that. ah You just trying to join in the experience.
10:18.32
Vance 😈
yeah
10:18.33
Nandi K
When I share an experience, you're like, okay, share the experience, hoe. I hear that
10:23.12
Vance 😈
If it got like parsley and shit, I could see it popping like, oh, yeah, they did that. Like, I love that shit. People will be getting mad.
10:28.34
Nandi K
Yeah.
10:28.75
Vance 😈
And I'd be like, did you use a roux? Like, if I see a mac and cheese and the consistency ain't right in the image, like, because they'll be trying to pass out bad food.
10:33.99
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
10:36.07
Vance 😈
Right.
10:36.64
Nandi K
Yeah, no.
10:36.90
Vance 😈
So, oh, that that is one thing I wanted to talk about for the holidays. One of the things that I love about the holiday is the plates.
10:44.65
Nandi K
oh yeah yeah
10:45.57
Vance 😈
The posting of the plate. Because like if it's good, we got you. But some people, it's like, damn, y'all live like this? like This is your granny?
10:52.66
Nandi K
yeah i don't i personally hate when people post plates because most of the people who are posting plates it don't be looking good like it do not be looking good if you said i'll fold it
11:00.02
Vance 😈
Not good. Not good. That's my favorite part. Folding. Fold the plate. That shit is so funny to me. Fold that plate.
11:10.65
Vance 😈
Look, if it's glass, fold it. Who cares?
11:12.92
Nandi K
Oh my god.
11:13.09
Vance 😈
Fold it.
11:14.45
Nandi K
Lay us, please.
11:15.62
Vance 😈
Put it in the trash. Put that shit in the trash. Fold it.
11:18.09
Nandi K
Not fold the ceramic plate.
11:20.32
Vance 😈
Fold it. Look, you you we don't got to be discreet. That's the one time I'm okay. Like, look, you know I didn't like it because folded the plate.
11:29.11
Nandi K
Listen. Okay, so we, uh, you also said you don't know the difference between stuffing and dressing.
11:30.55
Vance 😈
um
11:37.19
Vance 😈
I always told the difference, and I just don't retain it. Like, I'm just like...
11:40.81
Nandi K
The difference is one is stuffed in the turkey and one is not.
11:45.36
Vance 😈
But see, the funny thing about the funny thing about that, I just don't feel like black people do stuffing at all.
11:45.42
Nandi K
Stuffing, you stuff it in the turkey and dress in
11:54.19
Vance 😈
So it's all dressing that I've eaten.
11:55.92
Nandi K
It is all dressing.
11:57.38
Vance 😈
Yeah, because like, why would you put bread in a thing that's already dry?
11:57.56
Nandi K
Yeah.
12:03.03
Vance 😈
Like, how that makes sense?
12:03.81
Nandi K
*beep* you're making too much sense. Oh my God.
12:06.30
Vance 😈
How does that make sense?
12:06.63
Nandi K
I never even thought about that before.
12:08.93
Vance 😈
I saw a white woman stuffing bread, crumbs, or like, like you know, like on TV or something, but
12:11.99
Nandi K
Oh, Lord. Yeah, like, yes, no, I know what you mean.
12:15.25
Vance 😈
And I was watching it and I'm like, that thing is already dry. You're putting something dry inside of it. That is crazy. That'll make. So, okay. So I guess my confusion and not knowing is really just the fact that I've probably only eaten dressin my whole life.
12:29.75
Nandi K
Fair. i think that's fair. I maybe have had stuffing once or twice. You know, I've had some found family Thanksgivings, you know, with some some whites and living away, you know, and you know, it's crazy.
12:38.87
Vance 😈
Uh, right. That's the twenty s
12:43.60
Nandi K
When I moved to New York, too, it was great because it's different. Right. Like the way people eat is just like different.
12:47.80
Vance 😈
Yep. You don't know.
12:49.29
Nandi K
And that's when I learned I need to probably just do this by myself.
12:52.52
Vance 😈
Damn.
12:53.15
Nandi K
ah Yeah, I was just like, oh, I got to start, like, cooking anyway by myself.
12:53.48
Vance 😈
You live like this. Mm-hmm.
12:59.21
Nandi K
I want to give, obviously, an honorable mention to some of the controversial dishes, and I'll never miss the opportunity to plug that I eat chitlins.
12:59.26
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm.
13:09.01
Nandi K
I cannot be out-nigga’d.
13:09.38
Vance 😈
Do you eat Chitlin's?
13:11.46
Nandi K
I cannot be out-nigga’d. I cannot be out-nigga’d, okay?
13:15.58
Vance 😈
Look, you you got me there, big dog.
13:16.30
Nandi K
Yeah. That's right. Yeah, I love chitlins.
13:19.21
Vance 😈
You got me.
13:20.75
Aaron Rand Freeman
Bye.
13:20.79
Nandi K
I grew up eating chitlins and chitlins and hog maws, if you know, for real, for real.
13:25.36
Vance 😈
I do. I think I could do a hog mawl.
13:26.16
Nandi K
It's a little mixed. How can you do a hog maw and you're like, you're not going to a chitlin?
13:29.53
Vance 😈
Ain't that just a, ain't them
13:30.62
Nandi K
They mix. The maw is the stomach, girl. You're not. You're not.
13:34.59
Vance 😈
all? Oh, then nah.
13:35.29
Nandi K
You're not on it.
13:35.66
Vance 😈
I'm thinking jowl. I'm thinking jowl.
13:36.95
Nandi K
Usually, yeah, they usually mix hog maws and chitlins because chitlins are expensive.
13:39.55
Vance 😈
I could do a jowl. Because a jowl makes sense.
13:43.62
Nandi K
No, I don't know.
13:45.15
Vance 😈
to
13:45.59
Nandi K
Pigs eat shit. Yeah.
13:47.34
Vance 😈
It's fat right there, but the chitlins is the shit, and no
13:50.37
Nandi K
No, you cleaned them. Oh my God, what?
13:51.97
Vance 😈
Of course you do. I don't believe you eat dirty chitlins. I know you don't.
13:55.30
Nandi K
No. Oh, you already know.
13:55.82
Vance 😈
I know you don't.
13:56.82
Nandi K
You know, I actually thought i was going die.
13:57.13
Vance 😈
Yeah, I know you don't.
13:59.90
Nandi K
When my grandmother passed away, i thought I'll never have chitlins again.
14:02.30
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm.
14:04.73
Nandi K
That's like, literally, I just thought, well, my grandma's dead.
14:08.51
Vance 😈
Right, that's done.
14:08.91
Nandi K
I'll never have chitlins because my daddy's people, they're
14:09.19
Vance 😈
That tradition's gone. Mm-hmm.
14:14.21
Nandi K
they think they're too good to eat chitlins no both of my parents families are respectable but they think they're too good to eat chitlins that's a different thing you that has nothing to do a respectability um right who's making them now
14:15.25
Vance 😈
Respectable. ah Yeah. Yeah.
14:20.25
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm.
14:25.98
Vance 😈
Who's making them?
14:29.42
Vance 😈
Yeah.
14:29.79
Nandi K
Now Shaun's mom makes them and I'd be requesting. I literally just asked her this weekend. I was like, girl, I know it's getting close to the holidays, but might you mind making me some chitlins? Because I bought chitlins last year, but she already made some for me. I bought chitlins earlier this year, but she already made those for me and sent them back with Shaun one day.
14:52.40
Nandi K
So I had chitlins in the middle of the year as well.
14:54.18
Vance 😈
some more
14:55.85
Nandi K
So this will be more for the for Thanksgiving. Yes, I'll definitely have chitlins for Thanksgiving. Chitlins, rice, hot sauce. That's usually the first thing I have is just a plate full of chitlins and rice.
15:08.47
Nandi K
That's like the first thing I have.
15:10.44
Vance 😈
if i go down in december i will eat chillins with you if there are any uh okay
15:14.72
Nandi K
There won't be any because that'll just be for um Thanksgiving because Shaun's mama is making them. I'll never make chitlins in my life.
15:21.76
Vance 😈
Yeah, it's the in my house as well.
15:22.54
Nandi K
It's too much work.
15:23.88
Vance 😈
Yeah, I know.
15:24.47
Nandi K
It's not, for me, it's not about the smell. It's about how much work it is. You have to like clean them with like bleach and stuff. And it's just like that.
15:30.36
Vance 😈
hmm.
15:31.99
Nandi K
Maybe if Tracy taught me, actually I might learn.
15:32.21
Vance 😈
Nope.
15:35.24
Vance 😈
Mm hmm.
15:37.54
Nandi K
I actually would be kind of down to learn. Cause you also have to like rip them. It's a whole thing. You have to like tear them apart, tear the lining inside out. Like it's a big thing. Like, so when I hit her up, I was like, girl, you know, I'll pay for it.
15:53.85
Vance 😈
oh what What I will say is um I think that we are getting to the age of like, um like you know, baby pre-elders. I don't know what you want to call it.
16:02.21
Nandi K
Yeah, no, it's true.
16:03.52
Vance 😈
We're like, we're being trusted with these dishes. Like I'm trusted with the mac and cheese at this point. I brought it to um our 10 year anniversary of family dinner and them niggas love that shit.
16:09.85
Nandi K
You did it.
16:12.60
Vance 😈
But anyway, my point. Yeah, I did want to just highlight that. Like, I do think there's levels to this, like bringing dishes. So like if you're trusted to bring a dish,
16:18.57
Nandi K
Yeah, we did a whole Thanksgiving at our house two years ago. We hosted Thanksgiving at our house and made everything.
16:25.20
Vance 😈
How was it?
16:25.53
Nandi K
um It was really great. We never want to do it again.
16:29.68
Vance 😈
Hey, that's a lot of work.
16:29.88
Nandi K
ah My family came. Shaun's family came. it Yeah, it was it was so nice.
16:32.47
Vance 😈
Nice.
16:34.55
Nandi K
It was really beautiful. A bunch of people came and we made all the food.
16:38.82
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm.
16:39.81
Nandi K
But it was a lot of work and I never want to make all the food again.
16:44.80
Vance 😈
No, that's fair. That's why. Well, I think that's a perfect segue into the next ah the next part of this conversation. um I feel like ah time check.
16:53.75
Nandi K
oh well you see the time check you see the time check don't pretend like you don't see the time check
16:54.85
Vance 😈
Has it been 15 minutes?
17:00.59
Vance 😈
I just wanted to get our, uh, voiceless, um, Adonis, our sound Adonis to say, um, but okay.
17:07.88
Aaron Rand Freeman
10 minutes.
17:09.07
Vance 😈
What is it?
17:09.23
Nandi K
okay okay okay nice
17:10.14
Aaron Rand Freeman
We've got 10 minutes.
17:11.47
Vance 😈
Okay. bet bet bet Okay. So that being said, um, yeah. Favorite holiday. What are your favorite holiday traditions? Your rituals? Um,
17:20.06
Nandi K
yeah.
17:21.07
Vance 😈
I definitely wanted to just bring up the not cooking of it all. um I love to cook. I'm on record liking to cook. But during the Thanksgiving, i think the sads be there.
17:32.96
Vance 😈
And I'd much rather just go to your house and eat. So that's um when I put on my Jive Turkey fedora.
17:36.77
Nandi K
mm-hmm.
17:39.98
Nandi K
ah yes.
17:41.33
Vance 😈
And I moonwalk into someone's house. And I take several plates.
17:45.82
Vance 😈
I'm a good time. I'm to bring you some Shasta. I'm going to bring you Dr. Shasta. Mount Holla and I'm going to take me a couple to-go plates. I am going to talk about the food online.
17:58.15
Nandi K
mmhmm You are. That is true.
18:00.13
Vance 😈
just
18:00.11
Nandi K
Now that is the thing about the jive turkey. The jive turkey is going to talk about the play in public.
18:07.02
Vance 😈
Look, whether it's good or bad.
18:07.44
Nandi K
They're not going to tag you. They're not going to tag you.
18:09.73
Vance 😈
i Right.
18:10.83
Nandi K
They're not going to tag you nothing, but the plate will be reviewed.
18:14.70
Vance 😈
Right. And are you going to risk outing yourself by being like, fuck you nigga, if you see a negative review?
18:20.10
Nandi K
People will do that.
18:21.44
Vance 😈
They will, but at their own peril.
18:21.83
Nandi K
Some people will.
18:23.27
Vance 😈
Because
18:24.08
Nandi K
Yeah, I... Yeah, I...
18:26.61
Vance 😈
everybody gonna know your shit dry.
18:26.75
Nandi K
I... So here's the thing. I actually love to cook and I like to cook during the holidays as a just generally depressed baddie who wishes I only had the seasonal depression.
18:31.33
Vance 😈
Yeah.
18:35.69
Vance 😈
Mm hmm.
18:39.01
Nandi K
a Seasonal depression and usually sits on top of my regular depression that I have.
18:39.90
Vance 😈
Mm hmm.
18:43.02
Vance 😈
Mm hmm.
18:43.41
Nandi K
But again, Zoloft, who knows what can happen?
18:43.58
Vance 😈
Double.
18:47.47
Nandi K
Who knows? We're on double the dose now, baby.
18:51.20
Vance 😈
Look, we love that.
18:51.73
Nandi K
i might get happy.
18:52.20
Vance 😈
Send me some.
18:53.78
Nandi K
I might become a happy person.
18:54.01
Vance 😈
you You might smile a little.
18:56.33
Nandi K
No, I won't. But um i i like to cook. I just don't want to cook the whole meal. i want somebody else to like bring stuff. like Everybody help because I also just be tired and I want to relax.
19:11.95
Nandi K
um But my whole thing on thanks on the day, i have to play Christmas music and it has to be The Boyz II Men Christmas album.
19:23.01
Nandi K
And I have to hear that.
19:23.28
Vance 😈
Yeah.
19:25.27
Nandi K
*takes dramatic breath in and sings* SILENT NIGHT. It's not Christmas until I...
19:31.75
Vance 😈
yeah Yeah.
19:32.76
Nandi K
The breath and all, bitch. I need to hear it.
19:37.39
Vance 😈
What was ours? I think it was Temptations, right?
19:39.89
Nandi K
Oh, yes.
19:39.98
Vance 😈
Their Silent Night. They got an album.
19:40.83
Nandi K
The silent night. In my mind.
19:42.17
Vance 😈
Banger. Yes, yes.
19:43.85
Nandi K
Yes.
19:44.13
Vance 😈
That's a banger. um Obviously, Mariah Carey is de fully defrosted at this at this point.
19:49.33
Nandi K
well No, she's not. Did you see her video yesterday?
19:51.15
Vance 😈
She not defrosted? No, she defrosted early, right?
19:52.58
Nandi K
yes She's defrosting now, and she keep being like, not yet. She made a video she posted a video yesterday being like, not yet, not yet.
20:00.15
Vance 😈
ah
20:00.45
Aaron Rand Freeman
*laughing*
20:01.08
Vance 😈
But in three weeks, she gonna be, the well, when Thanksgiving?
20:03.41
Nandi K
No, she's going to unfreeze on Saturday.
20:08.73
Vance 😈
Oh, very soon.
20:09.97
Nandi K
She unfreezes the day after Halloween. She turns from a witch into the Christmas queen. Oh my God, you're not. the queen of Christmas.
20:16.02
Vance 😈
today.
20:19.03
Vance 😈
She done took over the day of the dab.
20:19.22
Nandi K
Yes, she transforms into a witch. she First, she's a witch on Halloween. And then on November 1st, her witch picture changes into the queen of Christmas.
20:24.70
Vance 😈
Uh
20:30.63
Vance 😈
That's so wild, but it's true.
20:32.08
Nandi K
I love Mariah Carey.
20:32.31
Vance 😈
That's tradition. and No, it's tradition.
20:33.40
Nandi K
She's so camp. It is tradition.
20:35.00
Vance 😈
It's tradition.
20:35.52
Nandi K
She says, it's time. *fake whistle tone*
20:39.38
Nandi K
That's what she does. I said, yes, Mariah.
20:41.78
Vance 😈
Look, she better own that and cash the check cause you know, it's coming.
20:44.49
Nandi K
She is baby. She never had... She's still doing stuff, even though that song alone, I'm sure, could just...
20:51.75
Vance 😈
Forever.
20:52.05
Nandi K
She wrote it She wrote that with her own hand.
20:53.54
Vance 😈
Yeah.
20:55.83
Nandi K
um What else?
20:56.13
Vance 😈
No, Mama's good with the...
20:57.78
Nandi K
Yeah, her pen is serious.
20:59.82
Vance 😈
Mama's good with the quill.
21:01.46
Nandi K
All right, what else? The memes obviously are really good.
21:04.81
Vance 😈
Yes.
21:05.14
Nandi K
Yeah, you're right.
21:05.68
Vance 😈
Yes.
21:06.34
Nandi K
Patti and the Background Singers is definitely one of my favorites.
21:08.40
Vance 😈
Yes. My favorite.
21:11.06
Nandi K
um She does not know the words to songs, and I live for that. Live for Patti.
21:17.17
Vance 😈
um Wait, that was the inauguration, wasn't it?
21:21.64
Nandi K
But and I think it was like Christmas at the White House, not inauguration.
21:27.03
Vance 😈
Okay, I thought it was the i thought it was a Clinton.
21:28.76
Nandi K
Because it was like during Bill Clinton's presidency because he had all the Nigrahs at the White House.
21:29.39
Vance 😈
Like, I read somewhere.
21:33.94
Vance 😈
Yeah, it was Clinton for sure.
21:35.36
Nandi K
Yeah.
21:36.07
Vance 😈
I'll look it up. But yeah, no that shit's hilarious. um I don't know why her singing ABCs on Sesame Street feels like a tradition to watch around this time.
21:43.88
Nandi K
That's so funny. Yeah, that's a banger too. a
21:47.63
Vance 😈
ah B.C. *sings*
21:50.81
Nandi K
Yeah. I be saying you could sing with alphabet.
21:52.43
Vance 😈
Shirley Caesar.
21:54.24
Nandi K
Beans, greens, potatoes, tomatoes.
21:56.32
Vance 😈
period.
21:56.57
Nandi K
*screaming* You name it!!
21:58.70
Vance 😈
They played that at the club one time we was dancing like it was a real song.
22:00.63
Nandi K
They play that at the... They play Kirk Franklin at the club. You niggas are unserious. Okay? You niggas are so unserious.
22:07.48
Vance 😈
Period every day.
22:09.63
Nandi K
ah Do you ever play games? So, i I always go to, like, I don't really hang out with my family on Thanksgiving. I usually hang out with my family on Christmas, if anything.
22:17.77
Vance 😈
Same.
22:22.11
Nandi K
Because on Christmas, we, like, play cards. We, like, drink. My dad's family is, like, way chill than they drink. Shaun's family, there's, like, a lot of children. We don't have that many kids.
22:33.74
Nandi K
It's like two.
22:34.27
Vance 😈
Well, You know my family, the Jehovah Witnesses. um I feel like with all the cousins, I think they kind of do their own thing.
22:38.51
Nandi K
ah y'all don't celebrate, so.
22:42.90
Vance 😈
But there's no big mama bringing everybody together. So we don't. So that's why I am the Jive Turkey on the holidays because I'm going to your house. um So if you play games, I'm playing games, right?
22:54.93
Vance 😈
but um So it ain't it ain't always a tradition. But yeah, if y'all playing games, I'll play some games. um And my family, we do watch Color Purple during Thanksgiving for some reason.
23:04.48
Nandi K
Oh, wow. Interesting.
23:05.71
Vance 😈
oh I will absolutely i used to throw a leftover party the day after i haven't been hosting much I need to get back to it but anyway I know and I don't want nobody in my house
23:13.78
Nandi K
You haven't... Well, you were gone for a while, so you're still getting back settled in. Mm-hmm.
23:19.61
Vance 😈
But the leftover party the day after Thanksgiving, it was also anti-capitalist. I was like, y'all gonna have your asses inside for black ah Black Christmas or Black, you know what I'm talking about.
23:28.47
Nandi K
Yeah.
23:29.01
Vance 😈
The ah nigger Friday. So I was like, come over my house. It's open all day. Bring your leftovers. And then I would make like some mac and cheese or something. that Everybody would just eat and hang out all day.
23:39.29
Vance 😈
And then at some point.
23:39.68
Nandi K
That's so funny. That's how Black Friends Dinner started on like Black Friday.
23:42.76
Vance 😈
Mm hmm.
23:43.16
Nandi K
yeah Black Friends Dinner started on a Black Friday.
23:43.64
Vance 😈
Yup.
23:45.56
Nandi K
of Just like, hey, like let's meet the day after Thanksgiving and i do a...
23:49.31
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm. So we're not competing with your family.
23:51.15
Nandi K
Yeah. And also, one of my homies used to work at this cooking school, so sometimes he would get dope-ass ingredients. And so he would bring them over to my house, actually, and we would cook together, which was so nice. I'm going to text him after this and be like, remember when we used to cook together?
24:06.99
Nandi K
So sweet. Isn't that nice? I was cooking together with a friend who was a man.
24:08.94
Vance 😈
ah love...
24:10.63
Nandi K
He's a man. i was like, wow, what a lovely activity to do.
24:13.58
Vance 😈
Look, cooking bring people together.
24:14.83
Nandi K
That's so lovely. what All right.
24:16.60
Vance 😈
bring people together. But yeah,
24:18.75
Nandi K
Well...
24:19.95
Vance 😈
Are we, are we wrapping?
24:20.42
Nandi K
I also like to watch the Addams family. um
24:23.57
Vance 😈
Really?
24:24.60
Nandi K
But mostly just the one where um Christina, obviously Christina Ricci, where they go to that summer camp and they try to do the story of the first Thanksgiving, but then it's fake.
24:24.78
Vance 😈
Which one?
24:31.16
Vance 😈
Oh yeah. I think that's the second one.
24:35.85
Nandi K
And so Wednesday is like, fuck that fake shit. We gon tell the real shit.
24:39.94
Vance 😈
Yeah.
24:40.13
Nandi K
And she does that speech.
24:42.28
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm.
24:43.87
Nandi K
I love that. I'm like, also, yes, now it is. I was like, this is ah the true meaning of Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving was a genocide.
24:54.37
Nandi K
Wow. That's going to hit very different this year. The past few years has been hitting very different the way that like you can imagine like Thanksgiving actually happening.
24:57.70
Vance 😈
I don't know.
25:04.89
Vance 😈
Yeah. I mean, ah feel like, ill feel like, I feel like we've stopped talking about it publicly. How like, you know, i feel like niggas used to justify why they do things to give in at all. And I'm like, look, we are off.
25:17.53
Vance 😈
and we know what it is like i don't think anybody is celebrating the real the you know the real reason why these muhfuckas do it right i have a week off of work so i'm just gonna chill and go to your house and eat your turkey
25:18.09
Nandi K
Yes.
25:21.35
Nandi K
No. We're off work.
25:27.79
Nandi K
Yeah, it's like capitalism is oppressive. Some of us have a day off so we can't actually all see each other. And it's a day that a lot of people, you know, have off.
25:37.23
Vance 😈
right
25:38.12
Nandi K
So, yeah. Well, let's talk about some final pieces. Okay, you canned cranberry sauce versus gourmet. Now, I do think there is a right answer to this.
25:53.73
Vance 😈
I do too.
25:54.14
Nandi K
Should we say it at the same time?
25:56.49
Vance 😈
Oh, Lord. Yeah.
25:57.85
Nandi K
Okay, one, two, three. Canned.
26:01.29
Vance 😈
Canned.
26:02.41
Nandi K
Yay!
26:03.23
Vance 😈
Yeah.
26:05.17
Nandi K
Oh, thank goodness.
26:05.29
Vance 😈
We won Thanksgiving.
26:06.71
Nandi K
our Our friendship is preserved. Okay.
26:09.25
Vance 😈
Listen, keep your little orange, keep keep your little orange peels and your nutmeg.
26:13.47
Nandi K
Shaun be making that.
26:14.01
Vance 😈
Keep it. Keep it.
26:15.15
Nandi K
Shaun be making that.
26:15.62
Vance 😈
Who?
26:16.01
Nandi K
Shaun mama be making it too. Tracy and Shaun both be making it.
26:19.59
Vance 😈
Y'all can keep it.
26:19.65
Nandi K
It's good, but I don't care.
26:20.84
Vance 😈
I'm sure...
26:21.01
Nandi K
Give me the can.
26:21.77
Vance 😈
I know... I trust that it's good, but also, like, where is the is the can? Did you break the can?
26:28.07
Nandi K
I'm so sorry. i Do you also have the can in addition?
26:30.33
Aaron Rand Freeman
*Laughing*
26:30.89
Vance 😈
Right.
26:31.07
Nandi K
I'm like, yeah, I'll have a little bit of that, but I just, I literally, when I was a kid, i used to eat cans of cranberries.
26:31.29
Vance 😈
Like...
26:38.24
Nandi K
I'll just straight up, just eat it by itself.
26:40.58
Vance 😈
It's that good.
26:41.54
Nandi K
It's bangs.
26:41.82
Vance 😈
Like, I'm required to be cutting a little little sliver.
26:45.48
Nandi K
Yeah, yeah.
26:45.54
Vance 😈
You know what talking about.
26:46.00
Nandi K
No, I cut it.
26:46.26
Vance 😈
In a little round. Yeah, I'm required...
26:47.50
Nandi K
Yeah, but I just keep going back and getting more.
26:49.60
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm. I needed to look like that to know that it's from the can because do not play.
26:49.82
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
26:55.02
Vance 😈
that nutmeg?
26:55.29
Nandi K
I don't want...
26:55.82
Vance 😈
Like, get that allspice out of here.
26:58.14
Nandi K
ah Okay, and then what... Okay, what are you bringing or what are you allowed to bring? Interesting. Interesting.
27:05.68
Vance 😈
ah I said it. I think um for me, it's mac and cheese. Um, I am in the, I'm in, I'm shopping around for a new main. I think, uh, I'm thinking about a whole fish or something, you know, like just kind of go somewhere else with it.
27:15.11
Nandi K
Okay.
27:18.55
Nandi K
Oh.
27:20.41
Vance 😈
Cause I'm, yeah, I can't do Turkey.
27:20.79
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
27:22.34
Vance 😈
Like I'm not going to spend three days making this.
27:25.20
Nandi K
No. um I'm universally trusted in the kitchen. I don't play in the pots. I'm very serious, and i I'm really good at cooking.
27:31.21
Vance 😈
Good answer.
27:34.26
Nandi K
There's nothing I can't make. um So I feel like, i again, we made a whole Thanksgiving dinner. I i could bring anything, What would I want to bring? I kind of like to bring one of the mains.
27:45.89
Nandi K
like to do a little honey glazed ham, like a bourbon honey glazed ham. I make my own glaze.
27:50.32
Vance 😈
Undefeated.
27:52.37
Nandi K
um Or I'll do like turkey wings and like roast turkey wings really low and slow and then make some gravy and just call it a little
27:56.16
Vance 😈
Oh,
28:02.21
Vance 😈
Smothered.
28:03.23
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah. You know, I love a smothered turkey wing, which we have those a lot in my house too.
28:04.85
Vance 😈
So, if you... If you smothered Turkey... Yeah. Like, if you smothered Turkey, it's acceptable..
28:09.98
Nandi K
yeah We eat those a lot.
28:12.56
Vance 😈
Like, I'm not gonna put you out, but...
28:14.16
Nandi K
Yeah, I only want gravy when I have, I'm, the whole thing when I'm making turkey wings is like, I let, we roast them for, on like 250 for like five hours.
28:14.35
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm.
28:24.23
Nandi K
And then start making the gravy and I use the pan drippings and I pour the pan drippings into the, cause I make my gravy from scratch, obviously.
28:24.26
Vance 😈
Mmm.
28:28.88
Vance 😈
Yup.
28:33.24
Vance 😈
Of course. It's only way to make it.
28:36.32
Nandi K
Obviously, but yeah, I'm universally trusted. I see that we're ah at the end of time, even though our very benevolent producer has allowed us to, you know, go go on. But today's episode is sponsored by the Jive Turkey.
28:57.55
Nandi K
as usual.
28:58.06
Vance 😈
he He said, let me get a dollar nephew. um
29:00.99
Nandi K
Yeah, and a plate.
29:03.47
Vance 😈
ah Big thanks to our producer and audio Adonis and Rand Freeman. I have been Vance Gowe and you can find me on, you know what? You can find me on Instagram sometimes.
29:15.75
Nandi K
Wow.
29:16.53
Vance 😈
Just look up Vance Gowe. Just look up Vance Gowe. He might be there. You know, we have a show to promote, so I probably should be somewhere. but don't get too cute don't get too cute but if you know me you know say say what you say what you want i love y'all anyway sorry
29:23.81
Nandi K
Wow.
29:29.13
Nandi K
Beautiful. And I'm Nandi Kay. You can find me on Instagram and threads at Nandi K, A-Y-Y-Y. ah Enjoy that dry ass turkey, y'all.
29:43.94
Vance 😈
they need to smoke
*Beans Greens potatoes, tomatoes Remix plays*
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