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I just had that in my head with this stigma about dyslexia, but I just took it as a knockback when it's not, it's not. I just think everyone learns in different ways. Yeah, and in schools you'll see you sit in a classroom and everyone's taught the same way. We all need to be taught individually as a person because everyone learns in different ways.

And I learned that with boxing, I learn a lot better visually when I've shown something instead of being told something. That's why it's so important to build up those relationships with your talent. Because I think when you know them inside out and you have that relationship and that bond, you all want the same thing.

So you know exactly where you want to go. How is that for you? Actually, by the way, X speaking and removing boxing. Are you asking me? I'm asking you. No complaints really, other than the fact that I don't really get to eat what I want. My fridge is like green half the time, isn't it?

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Hello, I'm Hannah Hennessy and I am a talent coordinator at HLT. And I manage Francesca Hennessy, also known as the Billion Dollar Baby. We're going to cover all things at home working with family. We're going to cover Fran's first few fights and how that all went. We're going to cover her five weeks in detail.

So let's get into the episode. Honey. Welcome unmanaged podcast. How are you? I'm all good. Thanks for being here. Yeah. Tell me this morning, what's your personality

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eating our brekkie. But yeah. No, it's good to be here on the spot. Yeah, well we're basically we've got Fran on today. Um, and we're going to be talking through a few key points in France career. We want to go over what it's like working with family as Fran. Our whole household, as most people know it, is revolved around boxing.

Literally. Literally. Yeah, quite literally. We eat, speak and breathe boxing. So yeah. How is that for you actually, by the way, eat. Speaking and breathing. Boxing. Are you asking me? I'm asking you. Um, I mean, it's great. No complaints really, other than the fact that.

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I don't really get to eat what I want. But yeah, yeah, the fridge is like green half the time, isn't it? Yeah it is. To be fair, it is down to you. But yeah, let's let's get into it a little bit. Um, and talk about, you know, like, what were your thoughts when you first heard that I would be a member on your team and actually manage you commercially?

Well, like, my first initial book is like I was over the moon, because what more could. I'm not going to give you a big head here, but what more more could you want then? Like your own family, part of your team? Like, obviously we've been so close and so young anyway. So like, obviously I trust you literally everything.

So you know, we've got obviously my cool part of the team dad part of the team obviously mum is part of the team. Like I just feel like it's so nice that we all can work together. We can all talk like, look, it don't get me wrong. Like, it can come with its complications because, you know, even for you as well. We're constantly around work because obviously we all work together.

Yeah. So like for you, sometimes when you come home from work, mean like dad or Mike or whatever will ask you about what's going on and things where you just want to chill. Same for me. But like that's the only things that come with it, I suppose. Like, yeah, I think for them that it's brilliant. You know, like we all trust each other more than anything like.

And what more could you want than to work with your family? Like, I think the best, the best thing about it is that I think we're all on the same page. And I think that's why it's so important to build up those relationships with your talent, because I think when you know them inside out and you have that relationship and that bond, you all, you all want the same thing.

So you know exactly where you want to go. Um, and I think that's what makes it a lot easier and probably the best thing, I think you're not going to fight harder for anyone than your family really are. Yeah. And I also think, like anyone, you know me better than anyone. Like, I think because, like, we've been so close our whole lives.

Like, you'll know automatically if a deal comes through or you get a deal, or like if something, whatever comes through, you'll know automatically if I'll like it or not. Like even before you've approached me with it, you'll know if it's something straight or if I'm going to like it, or if I'm not going to like it.

Do you know what I mean? Whereas when you haven't grown up with someone, or you know they won't know you as well as that. Yeah. So I think there's like, it's so nice to be able to have you as my manager because as well, like, I feel so open to come to you with everything, you know, like if I'm not happy with something, I know me and you can have an easy conversation and like, it's easy, like you're not going to feel any type of way.

No. And I'm not going to feel the type of way. If you have something to say to me, you know, like, I think we work super well together just because I think we've got that understanding there that, you know, we are sisters and we might have the odd bicker at home. However, we do have that line when work's involved.

You know, I feel like you do take me seriously when we're in work mode and I take you very seriously. And then obviously when we get home and Hannah's kid, the lights have gone down. Hannah's nicknames. So I guess you could say the the home work life balance is tricky, but I feel like we've got on top of it now.

And we, we we respect each other's boundaries. Yeah. Because at the start, like when you first became like my commercial manager, you'd come home and I'd be like, so what's going on here? Doo doo doo doo doo. And some days you come home and be like, Fran. Like, why don't you ask me this when I'm actually at work?

Like I'm at home now. I'm chilling like. And all I'll be asking you about is what happened in the day and what, like you've done and this and that. So I think now like as well for me, I've got that understanding that you are in like the office all day. You're working hard all day, whereas my job is a little bit different.

Whereas I'm in the gym like twice a day, but I get to go home and chill for a bit. So yeah, I at the start I don't think understood, like you're working all day and working on this when you get home, you do just want that breather. Yeah. So I think we've come to like a good kind of balance where you know, I know when to approach you with it.

And like when you need to have your own downtime. Well, I think it's the same for you, isn't it? You know, when you've had a really long day training, you just want to go home and switch off. The last thing you want to do is think about running, jumping or squatting or literally, you know, yourself. Sometimes I'll come in after a really hard session.

Yeah. And I will be like like the blinkers will just be down. I'll be like, walk straight through the house, just say hi to everyone. Not really have much to say. Well I think just want to eat. That's actually an interesting topic to cover actually. I think where you are, you are different to other talent in some aspects because you know, your your your job is slightly different because your, your job is to, you know, exercise all day.

So you're constantly training from like the crack of dawn, really, you wake up at,

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well, you can help different times or different times all the time. Um, you train three, two, three times a day, 2 or 3 times a day. So it's difficult because I think we're. Obviously we would like you to go out to like all of these events and network and things like that. You just can't do it sometimes a lot of the time because, you know, half the year you're in camp anyway.

I think that's where this is great, where like, you're in my team because I think you see what it's like for me in camp. Yeah. You see what I have to put my body through and you see how tiring it can be. And like, yeah, you understand that sometimes after a day of training, I'm not going to be able to go to, you know, an event, even if it is a massive event or things like that.

Like you understand that because you see what we have to do. You haven't just seen it with me, you've seen it with Michael. Like, yeah. Even though you don't box yourself, you've been around the industry for years. Down to me, Dad and Michael. So you understand that, you know, when you're in camp and when you're tired and stuff, the last thing you really want to do is like, go out and do 100% all of these different things.

But just to kind of it's a balance, just to cover that basis. Michael is our older brother. Um, and he was a professional boxer. Um, I think he turned pro around 2019. Oh, 19. He turned pro, but he was boxing his whole life. Like from. I don't even know what age he was like. So, Michael, he had his first amateur about at 11 years old.

11 years old. Yeah. I think you can vouch for this. Like Michael. Like he was so dedicated so early on, wasn't he? Like, it's just been his whole life. Like it was, I think from 11. Obviously, you would have been. What? I would have been about nine. Yeah. And you would have been 11. 6 or 5 or. Yeah. Five. Yeah.

Very young. So our whole lives we've grown up around that. And it was very, you know, Michael was he was fighting every weekend wasn't he. Like religiously like just going, getting thrown in the deep end all the time. So I think

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being around that, I think that is what put that that little fire in your belly. Oh, definitely. Like, you know, obviously Michael's on his journey to come back now. He had a little break. Um, he as we said, he's been training since the age of 11. He's now 20, 25, 25 years old, 26 next month. And he just needed a break.

So he's had two years out and he's on the road to come back now isn't he? Yes he is. Growing up, Michael was obviously a big part to play in me becoming a boxer. Yeah, I think he was. He was your role model, wasn't he? He always looked up to Michael. He was literally like, my hero still is. You know? I still look up to him.

So much for his work ethic and everything he achieved in boxing. And yeah, that's what gave me the work ethic I've got now. I think definitely. Yeah. And then but I also looked up to you for all the men out there, just like you, you set yourself. I call for your personality, you know, like sometimes your jokes and stuff.

I will coffee so I think it's funny. We've always said that you are literally an in-between of me and Michael. Yeah. Like, literally like there is like, you are just bang in the middle. Yeah. Like, you could be that most absolute girly girl ever and just want to do all these little girly things with me. And then next thing you know, you're in a ring, you're fighting for your life.

It's a little bit crazy. That's always what it was like growing up, though. It wasn't it? One minute you'd. I'd be in your room doing a hair makeup, like talking about girly things and next minute me and Michael being the hallway sparring and, like, doing all these things. So I literally am. And in between of you and Michael, I did get the odd chokeslam here and there.

Yeah. No. Do you know what Hannah did? Actually, for me once we got into this story?

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I think this is when Hannah knew she didn't want to be a boxer. So I was about, what, six? Yes. And you were nine. Eight. Nine? Yeah. Nine years older. Yeah. So nine And Michael. We, me and Hanna had a little bicker, didn't we? Yes we did. So Michael was looking after us at home. Our parents were actually out.

Um, and he said, well, the way to deal with this is put the gloves on. So he put the gloves on and it lasted a total of about 10s or just. Yeah. It was. Listen, I was off my A-game that day.

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But no, she can't kick though. That's one thing I will say about Hannah. When. All right. We used to have an argument, and legs would be going like this. We're exposing my secret weapon. Just so people know, you know. So now we've caught off about Michael. Let's go into a little bit about dad. So our dad, um, was a boxing promoter, so.

And that was, I think we was all babies when he first started. Yeah. Wasn't he so young? Yeah. Like we was, you know, we've we've literally grown up with it our whole life. So he was a promoter for. I don't even know how many years I couldn't tell you. I don't know how many. I think it's about 30 now. Like, yeah, 30 years.

I'm not too sure, but he's actually like a he's in the Hall of Fame for promoting. Yeah, he's promoted on some, um, real broadcasts. He, um, you know, brought up a lot of great fighters. Yeah. Um, and he's for me, you know, the best at what he does. He's now he's not promoting at the moment, but he's a manager still.

And you know what more could I want then to have him as my boxing manager? He's just unbelievable what he does. Isn't he the best in the biz? He is working night and day like he worked so, so hard. And I think that's where we all get our work ethic from as well, to be honest. Like, yeah, dad and mum. You know together they're just such a power team aren't they.

They are, they are. And it's um, I think growing up around that, that's kind of where we've got our work ethic from. Yeah. Push and strive for our goals because they've always, like, worked so hard to help us get to where we want to be. So I think eventually it's nice that we'll be able to give back to them a bit, and I think they've always made us feel like we can go in whatever direction we want as well, which is so nice, definitely.

And they've always encouraged our dreams and things like that. So I think it's actually like ironic how we've all ended up in the same, in the same business, because it was never planned out that way, was it? Like, I don't even know what I wanted to do when I was younger, but like, I never knew this sort of like row existed for me.

No. Yeah, yeah. Well, it was kind of crazy because I think, like, one thing dad's always would say about you is like, you've got the X factor in me going, right? Can we not say that? But you would say that, though. I used to like to sing, but no, I think like, it's just nice how it's all ended up, like us all working together, like as a family.

But yeah, it's just a really nice dynamic like it is. But yeah, I think that's like, definitely the head of it. Like he. Oh yeah. You know, He pulls the strings. He tells us like, what to do and stuff. But he's got all that experience, all that knowledge from years. So yeah, like for us to be around it and for him to have for him and mum to have done what they've done for us throughout growing up is just like, you know, incredible for us really.

And I know we're going to give back to them definitely with what we achieve 100%. And I think, you know, they've always been there every step of the way. And I feel like up until like for my journey personally, we're like we've held. I feel like when I joined here two and a half years ago, I was a completely different girl.

You were 100% completely different girl. Like, I feel like I like if I was to go back and look at myself when I first walked in the office to now my confidence levels are through the roof. I'm just a completely different person. I feel like my business head is turned on. You know that, like that's something I never used to have.

No. And you know what? Like I hear all of us actually say it about you. Like, we're so proud how you've just, like, you've come in here and, you know, this whole other side of you has just come out like you're so business headed, like. And that's why I say I think a lot of it you have actually got from that like a fair bit of what you're like your business head.

I think. Yeah. Listening to him grow up and things like that, it was like you pick it up, like, without even realizing. Yeah, yeah. And then. But I've never I never had the confidence to sort of use it. But then I think being thrown into like an office with like such, like an amazing group of people who just know exactly what they want, exactly what they're doing, and they're so driven.

Being around people like that, I think has really helped me definitely bring that side out and realize, oh, actually, I can't I do know what I'm doing. Like, I think Hannah Holland, like, I think she's been a massive part to play. I think I brought your confidence out so, so much. Yeah. She's like always said to you what you can do in within this industry.

And she's kind of always like, you know, helped you grow. And I think like Hod, I think has made you grow massively. Oh yeah. Hannah Hannah is definitely probably the biggest reason that I've, I've grown. I would say she's helped me every step of the way since I first walked through the door. You know, she took a chance on me.

I didn't have much experience. Yeah, she took a huge chance on me. And, like, yeah, I wouldn't be here without her. Really? Oh, 100%. But that's like, we need, like, people like Hannah Holland, you know, who will take. You know, she took a chance and you like. Yeah. And now you two are like, you two are inseparable.

Really, aren't you? You're like, yeah, so. But it's really nice to see. And also for me, it's like nice to see that because obviously like Hannah kind of Hannah approached me when I was an amateur. Yeah. So I was like, it's a similar thing isn't it? A similar thing? I remember I was 17. I was at a boxing show.

Yeah. And I remember seeing Hannah there, and I see, like, uh, ginger hair. Like, she just looked like a boss. And, um, she came up to me and was like. Oh, like. Because we were, we were at the same gym at the time, but I was a shy 17 year old, like, yeah, not in like the public like at all at that point hadn't turned pro.

Um, and yeah, she came up to me and was just like, oh, like, you know, let's have a meeting. Let's, you know, I've heard such good things about you. Let's so a similar thing for me, really. You know, it was when I was amateur. Hannah came on board with me. I think she's got a really good eye. Hannah, she can spot from a mile away when someone's going to be, you know, when someone's going to.

When someone's going to grow and get there. Which is really similar to dad's. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Very similar to that. Like. Yeah. No it actually is. Well they're both like we'll see. Hannah's the owner of her company. Yeah. That's the owner of, you know, everything he does. So yeah. No, I suppose that's like.

Yeah. But um, no, it's been really nice to see the growth of you with HD and definitely it's been a big part of where you've got to. What was it like having your first few fights like your pro debut for one, like what was what was the feelings going on on in your head? Like, how did you feel? Obviously that's a huge moment in your life, your pro debut.

I feel like it is for everyone. It stays with you. Just go into a little bit about that and how you know dad's influence and around that shape to you for that fight and how everyone else had a like part to play. So I think like with my pro debut, I think I had so much pressure on me because, yeah, not many people knew what I was going going to bring in the pros.

You know, uh, obviously dad's had a big part to play in the platform I was on and everything like that. So a lot of people had things to say about that. You know that I was just there because my dad's kind of got me there type thing. I feel like that's something that you get told daily, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Like these, like people on the internet.

And I just think, like, listen, you are very lucky to have the dad that you have. You are very, you know, you've had. I would never change it. We've never, ever, ever. And you come where I am. You know. Yeah. Like he's helped you all along the way. However, he's not in there fighting for you. No, no. So nobody can take that away from you that you haven't.

You know, you've you've earned to be there. Yeah. No, you absolutely have. And that's something I'll definitely say, you know, like, I wouldn't be where I am without dad because he's one of my biggest supporters. You know, he's helped me get to where I am 100%. And I'll vouch for that to anyone. Yeah. But, yeah.

No, obviously, I'm. I have to do the training. I have to get in there and and fight like no one can do that for me. So I think with my debut because obviously dad was actually. Dad knows what I'm capable of. You seen it? He knows what I'm capable of. He was saying to everyone what I'm going to do. Yeah, and no one really believed it.

No one, unless they had seen it, had really believed it, you know. So, um, on my debut, I think that was the start of something special, because I got to get in there and show people like what I could do, you know, from. Yeah. I don't think people's expecting any. Any of it. I was 18 years old. No. On Sky sports life.

Mhm. And I come out dancing. I've got to be honest, I wasn't expecting that either. No, no, I really wasn't like you. It's so funny with you because it's like outside of the brain. You're just this, like cute, like you're just this cute, humble girl that just wouldn't say boo to a ghost, would you? Like. You're just so.

You're the sweetest person. You're the kindest person ever. And like, you're not. You're not one of them. That is like, you want the attention or the spotlight or nothing like that. You're so reserved like that. So that night when you started dancing out, I was like, jaw to the floor. What's happened? I don't, I think like, I think this even goes back to like, growing up around the pro scene.

Yeah. I knew exactly what to expect on my debut. I knew what to expect. I knew what I was going into. I've been there. I've. I've seen a hundred people. I've been in the changing room with them when they're going out for titles, like when they're going out for their debut, when they're getting the hammer up.

So I knew what to expect. Yes. So for me, like on that ring walk, it was like, I'm meant to be here. This is what I've been wanting to do since I've been a young girl. You know, that was always my dream. To turn pro, to become world champion, to become undisputed. So when that music started going, I don't know, it just felt like the body just moved with it.

Yeah. This is my time. This is what I meant to be doing. And that marks your trademark. Now you're you're known for your ring walks. Really? Yeah. A lot of people picked up on that on socials. You know, your TikTok exploded with views. Yeah, yeah. On every single one of your ring walks. Yeah. No, I think it's, um.

I know watching as a fan when I'm watching boxing. Yeah, I get excited to see what someone's going to do for their ring wall. Yeah. Like, I genuinely do get excited. Like wanting to see what someone's going to do for them. I don't think people realize what goes into a ring walk. No. Like, it's not like people just think the night before.

Oh, I walk out to that song. I mean, some people might, but we definitely don't. We don't? Yeah. I feel like we we always want that. That hidden meaning behind it. We always want that. You know, we want that beat on it. Yeah. We want that wow factor. We want people to, you know, not think of like, not this thing again.

We want that you to come out and people be really well. You want them to be entertained from start to finish right. Like absolutely. Why are supporters. You know, I wouldn't be where I am without my supporters. You know who you know? Say nice things, who you know, support me. Who buy tickets? Who? You know, even just share my things or like my things or send a nice message.

You know, all these people. I would not be here without them. I wouldn't be doing this about them. So why not give them entertainment from start to finish? 100%? If I'm confident in what I'm going to do, which I am, then why am I not going to give them entertainment from start to finish? Definitely. And I think that is so important to have that entertainment signed outside of it, because I do think, you know, you can be a great boxer and you can get in there and you can do the job, but what what are you going to do to keep people on your journey and what you need to show them, like why they should love you like.

And I think you've definitely picked up people that love you for you, not just because of your talent in the ring, but because you're a beautiful person. Thanks. No. You are. You are a beautiful person. I think, like I do try like, you know, with anyone who supports me and stuff, I do try to interact with. I do try to, you know, if someone comes up to me, it shows or anything that I will sit and have a conversation like I want to know about them as well, because these people have, like helped me get to where I am.

They've supported me in my career. So like, it's like I'm just I feel very blessed to have the people I do supporting me on everything, on socials, on everything. You know, I feel like I feel the love. Yeah. And I think that's why that even gives me more of a boost to go out there and do a good job, because it's like, I want to keep them round.

I want to keep, you know, that support going. And you know, the people that have supported me, I, you know, I want to show them that they're right in, you know, what they've been supporting. So yeah, absolutely. So should we go into a little bit of detail about Fight Week? Yeah. Because I feel like people don't like obviously they do see a lot of it, but they don't see like a lot of the behind the scenes.

I mean, we try to out as much as we can, but I feel like it's a really tricky one because so much happens and so much goes on.

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It's very hard to document, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, like, after weeks especially, I feel like they just are jokes from start to finish. Like when you do look back on them, they are funny. Oh, yeah. I think I definitely always look forward to the fight weeks. Yeah. For me obviously fight night is the best one and that's what you really are looking forward to.

But I do think before the fight week it's exciting isn't it. It's like the build up isn't it. Yeah. Obviously there's different stages of the build up and things, but I just think like especially our team, like it's quite a funny atmosphere isn't it. Or fight week like especially I'd say like you and Michael I just think you two bicker and it's so funny like, yeah, you two kind of bicker over who's doing more fight.

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The thing is, is Michael is very like,

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oh, I don't know how to put it into words, but he doesn't understand my job. Michael. Yeah. He doesn't understand the job, but he he's just like, I feel like you two's personalities. A bit like chalk and cheese. Yeah. Aren't they? But they really gel because it's like, funny. Yeah. Get on. We do? Yeah. It's funny how you get on, like, we just have different outlooks sometimes.

And I think obviously, you know Michael is great obviously to have that. And he's needed that because he's done it all before. Yeah he is a big help to me. Yeah. And he's he knows all the right things to say to you. You know he speaks to you like before you go out there. You know he's the last person you see before you enter that ring.

Always. Yeah. Um, I think he's got a huge part to play during that week and, you know, with your nerves because I know you say you don't have them, but everyone has them. Oh, no. No, I'll happily saying that, like, you know, I have nerves. It's healthy to have nerves, but I just think it's how you cope. Cope with that.

Definitely. And I think where he's with you, you know, training you every other day, like with Brad and stuff like that. He oversees everything. He knows exactly where you're at. Yeah, that's the side of things that I don't really get to see. However, like, my job is to help you mentally. And, you know, we're doing that.

We're doing everything with the brands and stuff like that. And I think you also like, you know, I need that like female around me sometimes. Definitely. Because you like, especially like weighing in and things like that. You're able to help me with so many things on Flight week, like even down to things like, you know, whether I'm on my monthly or whatnot.

Like you're just there. You understand how that feels. And. Yeah. Like another thing I always say to everyone is, I like having you around on Fight Week because you're not just talking to me about boxing. No, you're always just taking my mind, like, off things. And we'll have a laugh and it will be lighthearted and, you know, you'll make jokes.

If I'm in a bit of a serious mood, you'll make jokes with me and make me laugh. And so I think like where you don't like obviously you're involved with the boxing, but where you're not constantly talking to me about boxing. On Fighter Week, it kind of feels like when I get into my room and I'm talking to you, I'm like, can put that aside for a minute?

Yes. Yeah. So I think that's also a massive thing for me. And also on like press conference days, like you're helping me get ready, you're helping me pick my outfits. You're helping me. Not many people know this. I am actually Fran's hairstylist, MUA and and clothing stylist. Yeah. You are your makeup stylist?

Um, yeah. Clothing stylist. So, I mean, you do definitely have a big job to play because a lot of people do comment on my outfits on press conference day, so now you know where they came from. Yeah. Well, yeah, I can't take all the credit. You do. You know what you want as well. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. But you do pick out the outfits like when I'm training or so do you hand.

Can you just go and have a look and send me through some options. And you will do it. Won't you? Like you do it like. So it does help me really enjoy it, actually. Yeah, it does help me out a lot in that sense where I just, like you kind of take that off my hands. Yeah. Um, but, yeah, I think I'm fine with it. It's just like pure jokes, I think.

Obviously, like, Mum and Dad are there and, like, you know, sham sham is always there. Shout out sham, shout out sham. He. So we love sham. Sham basically gets all the, um, content for us, doesn't he? Sham. Oh yeah. He so he he will like, be with us throughout the whole fight week. And he is just phenomenal, isn't he?

Everything he gets, all he will like document everything Fran's doing throughout that week. Like of the team. Uh, you know, even when we're not aware that camera is somewhere. Yeah, he actually helps with so many other things as well. Like. Yeah. Yeah, for so many other things. He's a huge part of the team, but he's massive.

I think that's I think it's so great that he has documented all of that, because you can look back on it and in years to come, you know, and it's I think it's things that you can show your kids and like of course. And also I feel like as part of Team Hennessey Sports. So my dad's, he's part of my dad's team. So my like yeah.

So we're all it's just so nice to have everyone around. And I think as well like Brad's basically family now it's only like being basically part of the family. We can't get him off that couch. Yeah, literally. He's basically part of the family now, which I think is so nice because like as I said, more like, you know, we we all trust him so much.

And having him in my corner and things like, it's just so nice to I do think that's why it's so I think that's the best thing. I think when your team, you know, they essentially become family. Oh, cool. Because you work together, you're together every day. You spend more time with them than you do at home. Yeah.

Like it's so important to have that bond. And I think as well with you. Like for you, it's super important to like have that connection and that bond with whoever is training you. And I think like we as well, we have such good communication like me, Brad, my dad's our dad. Sorry. Um, and like obviously Michael's training with Brad as well.

Yeah. Like, we all have such good communication with each other. Like in training, if we think something needs working on or whatever, we all feel free to talk about that and to address it and yeah, like work around it. But yeah, it's just so nice to have such an intimate team. Um, as well with, um, Luke Green slate.

And I showed you this. Yeah. He's also like family now. Like, you know, it's just such an intimate team and an intimate bond. I feel like this. And also, now I knew nutritionist Scott Robinson. Yes, I was actually going to go into that a little bit in the sex. So can you speak a little bit about, you know, your training, How many factors go into as you've just spoken about, you've got your nutritionist now strength and conditioning.

You've got recovery. There's so many different things that come along with just the training. You know, everyone speaks about. Yeah, yeah. Let's let's dive a little bit into that. So I think the training is just like I love training. Like this is what I've been dreaming of doing since young age. Being able to be a boxer full time, you know, I'm so blessed to do that.

Like, yeah. To be able to train every day, to be able to do things like that are just. I'm living my dream every day, which I'm so thankful for. Yeah, yeah, there's obviously so many different parts to play in it. And, um, I think a big part is my team and how they structure it and, you know, how they set things out for me.

Yeah. As I said, obviously, um, Scott, you know, he's come on board now, Scott Robinson, he's been a massive part to play in this camp, you know, helped me with so many different things. This is the best shape I've ever been in. Like, oh yeah, ever. 100% without a doubt. Best shape I've ever been in. And you know, when you pull that together with Luke, who's my shrimping conditioner, who I've been with since the age of 16,

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so he knows my body, he knows how I work. And, you know, he does so much for me. Luke, in in a sense of, you know, training. You know, we used to get up with me at 5 a.m. when I was younger to do hill runs before school, like, you know, and then pull that in with Brad when you put those three together. And obviously my dad steering it all, when you put those three together, it's just feels like a dream team.

Yeah, massively a dream team. Massively so. But yeah. No. But the training obviously gets intense, gets so intense and towards the fighting things. But I think you just like what I know being there, the closer and closer you get, especially on the fight week, you know, you'll be at the press conference and you'll be, you know, you'll be pushing through because you'd usually have an open workout the day before kind of thing.

And then you're at the press conference the next day. And then usually when it hits the Friday and the way in and you're just like, I just need to do this now. Like you're you want to eat, you want to. Yeah, just you just want to refuel and go and just it's so tough. Honestly, I think the discipline that you that that goes into it like and it's not just that week either.

You have to say disciplined all year round. I know you do. I know like you you'll have a like

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you'll eat, you'll eat what you want for like a week or something. But really you are disciplined all year round. Yeah. But like I think you can vouch for that with me. Like going out. I don't go out. Really. Like I don't really when I'm fighting as well. Like I'm indoors. I don't, you know, on the weekends like because this fight got pushed back, you know, I'm having to miss your birthday celebrations.

I had to miss my 21st birthday celebrations. You know, we just, you know, these things are just things that I'm choosing to do. Really? Because, yeah, I have to do that in order to achieve what I want to achieve in boxing. Yeah. So I don't see it as, you know, a for me, it's not like a huff and puff thing. Yeah.

I've chose to do this. Yeah, I've chose to make these sacrifices. So like I'm going to do them. Yeah. But I think like yeah obviously it comes with missing out on things, not eating like nice food all the time and, you know, having to make sacrifices in that sense. But I suppose everyone has to make different sacrifices in everyday life.

So absolutely, I'm blessed to be doing what I'm doing and to love what I'm doing. Not many people love what they do. So I'm so blessed to love what I do. You really do. Yeah, I think you can see that, though, because I feel like I think I feel like anyone can see how much you want it. Yeah. And I think you have to want it to, to actually make it.

I feel like some people lose that along the way. Yeah, that initial want. But I can see you've still got you just you just want it so badly. You want to get there. You want to get to the top. You want to be the top. Like, yeah. And like you will because you've got that fire in your belly. Yeah. I don't definitely have that fire in my belly, but it's just like, interesting because even in this camp, like every camp, I felt like, oh, this is the most disciplined I've been.

This is this, this is that. But this time I've gone to a whole nother level of discipline. Yeah, a whole nother level, like. Yeah. And you know, before I thought I was doing the right things, being disciplined and stuff. But this camp here, I really know that I've, you know, I'm doing everything I can to get to where I want to be and I'm going to keep it going that way.

I'm going to keep being disciplined. I'm going to keep doing these things because I think you can get drawn into seeing, like always wanting to see what other people are doing and this and that, but really gotta just focus on yourself. Well, I think as well, it's like it's health wise as well. You know, boxing is a dangerous sport.

You know, you get punched in the head like every other day. Yeah. If you ask any doctor if it's normal to be punched in the head, It's obviously not like it's a very dangerous sport. And I think that's why it's so important that you are doing what you're doing and you're always being checked. You're always, you know, you're doing the right thing by your body.

You take extra precaution there. And I think that's so, so important because people forget that really you put your life on your life on the line every day. Like, I know we joke about, but you do, because of course it's not. It's not a normal job to have. It's not. You know, we've seen it firsthand when boxers have got really badly injured or.

Yeah, have, you know, collapsed in the ring and things like that. And it's scary. It's such a hard sport and I'd feel like, you know, I'd be so silly to not take it as serious as I do, you know? So, um, I just think, like, discipline me choosing to be in this sport, I have to be disciplined. I have to have these sacrifices because, yeah, you know, we've like our family there and stuff.

Like, it's so important to like, be healthy and be doing the right things, which we are. So definitely. I'm really proud of you. Thanks, honey. I really am. I think you've like you've turned into your own person as well. Like you've turned into a little businesswoman yourself. You know? You know what you want.

You know where you want to go. I feel like maybe towards the start of your career, it was kind of led by other people, and you would just be like, okay, I'm going to listen and whatever and don't go wrong. You still do listen. But I think, you know, in your head as well, like what you want to do and like how you want to do things and you've turned into your own little boss.

Yeah. I think it's mad to see because I think it's cool. Like, well, even now I have dyslexia, don't I? So yeah, I think at school I don't think, you know, I never thought I was going to be able to deal with banks the way I do, deal with all these different things that I've, I have had to switch my business head on a little bit, like which at school I just wasn't like that, you know, I didn't like education.

I didn't like learning things. I was, you know, I would play up a little bit at school, but that was because I used my dyslexia as a, um, excuse, I think. Yeah. Whereas I think one thing I want to get across to young kids is like, if I'd have put as much discipline and hard work into school as I did boxing, I would have done so well at school.

But I just had that in my head with this stigma about dyslexia. But I just say you took it as a knock back when it's not. It's not. I just think everyone learns in different ways. Yeah. And in schools, you'll see you sit in a classroom and everyone's taught the same way. Everyone's. Yeah. You know, I think we all need to be taken a bit more individually as a person, taught individually as a person, because everyone learns in different ways.

Yeah. Like. And I learned that with boxing, I learn a lot better visually when I'm showing something instead of being told something. Yeah. So yeah, I think like that's another thing that I will go into at some point in my career, just try and help young kids with things like that. Um, I think it's like, that's a really important thing that you stand for, I think, is, you know, showing kids that, you know, if you if you as well, like, I know obviously you can if you put the work in, but if you don't feel like you gel and like want to go in the direction of, you know, a lawyer and a banker and a doctor and like kind of the direction that schools do push you in.

Yeah, there are other things to do. And I feel like female in sport is such a big topic at the minute because it's becoming huge. Massive. Yeah, it's becoming as big as it's ever been now down to people like you though, because you've you've shown you've shown young girls that you can do it. Yeah. You know, you don't have to go in the typical direction.

As everyone else, you can find your own path. I don't, I think, like, I don't know what I'd be doing now if I wasn't boxing. Like, I do not know what I'd be doing. Like, obviously a chef. Oh. The chef. Um, but I think, like, it's just I was wasn't really disciplined at that school to anything. Yeah, I wasn't like really like that.

But as soon as boxing came in my life, I've just had this whole different discipline, this whole different work ethic. And yeah, you know, I just think you need to find your niche, your, your passion and like, and whatever it is, work hard at it and you'll be able to go to where you want to go. But yeah, I just think at schools, I just think they need to teach kids how they need to be taught what they the way they learn instead of teaching everyone the same because it's not going to sink in the same for one for one kid as it is the other.

So everyone's everyone's different and everyone learns differently, don't they? Massively, yeah. Like me. And you probably learn in different ways to each other. Like, yeah, but it's just the way you learn and just finding out what is the best way for you to learn, I think, yeah, I think your partnership with Nomura was a really like cool one because I've never really seen a female boxer, you know, collaborate with, with a huge beauty brand.

And you did and it and it came out amazing. Yeah. Well, I think like, especially working with her and like, I think this is what we was kind of looking for from when we first started working together. This was the aim. Yeah. Like we wanted to show there's obviously different sides. You know, it's not just like a boxing a boxing side of things.

You know, the female box is like there is also this beauty side. What I do love and I do like to do, as I said earlier with you, we've grown up. We always liked you, like you would always do my makeup, my hair and things, so, well, that's what you're all about. And I think that's why you're so, like a lot, a lot of, you know, young, aspiring girls, like, look up to you.

Really? Because you show that diversity, you show that you can do both. Yeah, yeah. Cool. But like, I hope I do, I do that, you know. But yeah, I think like with me, that's why it's such a unique one for my, for my last fight. Just because, you know, that was kind of always something we looked for, like a makeup brand or something like that.

You know, just to show there is two sides to it because you kind of always see obviously like sports brands and things like that, which is great. Yeah. But um, yeah, obviously you don't really normally see like, makeup brands and stuff. I feel like that is definitely what we wanted for you, because definitely, you know, that's that's an amazing achievement.

And it's amazing thing for you to show that, you know, you're sponsored by a makeup brand. As a female athlete, I feel like that's making huge movements within the industry. I think that's kind of what you guys always set out to kind of bring in and to get, because it's different and it shows a different side to me.

Mhm. Um, whereas as I said, if like sports brand and stuff obviously that's great. And yeah, we love the sports brands. But you know with MUA with a makeup brand, it just showed that different side. And I think that's kind of something that we always kind of wanted for me to bring in something like that. Yeah.

What do you how do you feel like Hld as an agency has impacted your career since you started and you started now about three years ago, didn't you hold? Yeah, definitely. So like, as I said, you know, I was about 17 when I think kind of approached me. And I remember coming to the first event I ever went to. And like, there is all these influences, like all familiar faces that I recognized and like it was crazy for me, like when I went to because I'd never been to something like that before.

You know, like with all these influences and stuff, because it always just kind of been boxing. Yeah. But I think like with HD from the start, you know, they always, like Hannah always said to me, like, you know, she could see that girly side of me. Like, obviously she wants like to kind of for me to show that.

Yeah. To show this other personality I've got. Yeah. Which I think at that age, about 17. My personality, I didn't really show it at all. To be fair, like, you know, that girly side that, you know, like giggly side. I'm still still now. We even had a conversation the other day, like on my TikTok and stuff. I need to show my personality even more on that.

So I think like that side of things, like with HD, like it's really brought out, which brought out another side, like, you know, before it was just the boxing. Yeah. And now, you know, you've got this, you've got this two sides to it, which is so nice. Like, I love coming in the office. I love seeing everyone I love.

It's just a different side to what I do. And it's quite it's actually quite refreshing. Yeah. Like, you don't want to just be remembered for your wins. You want to be remembered for what you've built outside and who you are, you know? Yeah. But yeah. Like, exactly. But I think like, because I always say to you all come in the office or this and that.

Yeah. And I think the reason I want to do that is because it's nice to have two sides of it where when I come in here is speaking about a whole different side. Like, as we said, the makeup, the hair, the all these different things. Yeah. And like just being able to socialize with everyone because I'm friends with everyone in here.

It's so nice to have that other side to it. So my biggest lesson about managing you, like as my sister would definitely be that, you know,

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when you when you go into manager, you know, it's not just about the brand deals and things like that. You know, that's that's obviously a big part of it. But it's so, so important to have that relationship there and to have that trust and to know each other. And I think, well, we already had that. We, you know, obviously just just went from strength to strength.

But I think, you know, that's something that Hld definitely stands for is that we we have such personal relationships with our talent. And that is why,

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you know, things. Things work out and things do so well because we know exactly what everyone wants and we've got everyone's best interests. Definitely. Like, I think exactly what you said in HD. You can kind of feel like it's more of a personal thing than just a business thing. Yeah. Like, you know, I'd say everyone in here is one of my close friends, you know, and I get on well with so much of everyone in here, and I actually feel comfortable just coming in here.

And just, like, sitting down. It's like sitting down with your friends, like, type of thing, you know? Which we all are. So I think it's nice in HD because you do have that personal aspects where you, you don't in other things like it would be more business wouldn't it? Which we do have that. Yeah. But it's also nice to have that personal kind of relationship.

So I think that's coming to an end now. It's been really nice speaking to you. You too. See you at home for dinner. See you later. Um, just before we go, though, do you just want to give us, you know, next fight day. When is it? Where is it? So my next fight day is November the 29th. Is that the valid live in Derby?

Excuse me if I haven't said that. Right, but yeah, the valid live in Derby. Yeah, it's going to be an incredible atmosphere. I'm so excited for it. And most importantly it will be live on the BBC. Yes it will nationwide. And it's the first time Big Time Boxing is back on the BBC after 20 years. Yeah. And you know what actually fun fact last time it was I dad promoted it.

Yes. So. And that was 20 years ago. Full circle moment isn't it. Yes. For all of us. So very excited. Make sure to tune in because this is going to be my best performance today. Let's go guys. If you liked this episode, don't forget to like and subscribe and we will see you on the next one! Hit that like and subscribe!

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