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Hello everyone. Welcome to the Move Rural Canada Podcast. Today we have on Becky Cianflone. She is the executive director of Community Futures Greenstone in Flint Flon, Manitoba. Welcome, Becky. Good morning. Thanks so much for having me. We were just say before we were recording here about how we have a really good northern theme going on here.
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So I love that we were able to interview at this time because we have a few other northern episodes coming out. And, and I always say this, the North gets forgotten way too often and there's so much opportunity up there. So we're happy to have you today to talk about that. Absolutely. And it's such a wonderful time of year as the seasons are changing in the North, and we're starting to settle into, you know, that cozy ness of winter, but also getting ready for some fun activities that we can do outdoors in the North?
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Yes, absolutely. So we'll get right into it. Can you tell us a little bit, about yourself? What do you do? What made you have you grown up in Flint for your whole life, or how did you come to live there? Yeah, absolutely. So I've been working for the Community Futures program for about 12 years. Community futures is a national program.
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We have 260 offices across Canada. There are 16 right here in Manitoba that serve, rural and northern entrepreneurs and communities. So I actually started out in southern Manitoba. So when we talk about immigration, I was working with communities like Steinbach and Never Ville and Maurice and Saint Pierre Joly. So communities that with real robust immigration programs and support services.
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And really rapidly growing populations. So ten years ago, I had the opportunity to, come to Flynn. Flynn. So the manager of the community teachers office had been here for a number of years, was retiring. And my husband and I kind of looked at each other and thought, like, Flynn, Flynn is on the other side of the planets.
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Like that doesn't, you know, people don't actually move there, do they? And so we kind of went round and round and we got to a point where we said, you know, if we don't at least try this, we're going to spend the rest of our lives wondering like what that would have been like. And so, yeah, ten years later, we're here, I'm managing the community futures office.
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This particular office services the communities Flynn, Flynn, Cranbury, Portage, Snow Lake and Sheridan. So we're sort of the. I live on northwest corner of, Manitoba. So just grew up in southern Manitoba then, like. So that was kind of your first experience moving to the north? Yeah, absolutely. So like I grew up in, like central Manitoba, on Lake Winnipeg.
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So I've always lived in small communities and I've always felt a real strong sense of place making, and using, you know, the, the most important assets we have in communities, which, of course, are human assets. So, Becky, you decided to stay and live in Flynn. Flynn. And from your perspective, what makes Flint one and the surrounding area a really great place to live?
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So why did you guys decide to stay? Well, that's that's a huge question. But it's really again, it comes back to my previous comment that it's all about the people. So this has to. And of course, during 2025, we experienced a significant wildfire, events and near and around the community. And during that time, the community was evacuated for a period of time.
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And while we were evacuated, and I was sort of that, you know, all these if questions circling the air, of what what could happen to our community. And somebody made the comment, there was a news interview, and, a gentleman has been offline. Flanner, you know, born and raised. He made the comment that him and his spouse talked about, you know, if we can't go back to Flint often where we're going to go and she said, we're going to find where all the Flint slaughters went, and that's where we're going to go.
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And so I think that really, you know, sums up how we feel about the people that way occupy this place with and there's, you know, some really, great characters, some great neighborhoods and people and also, you know, during Covid, which, was a number of years ago, but it seems really fresh still. Again, that sense of community was really important, like knowing that although we were kind of alone in our homes, we weren't alone.
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And a greater sense of of the word and that access to the outdoors. For our family, that was a driving factor in the decision to relocate to this community. And it's been a factor in keeping us here. Certainly, you know, one of the biggest problems is when we want to go fishing. Which lake are we going to go?
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Fishing? Trying to decide what species. Which lake? Where are we going to go today? So it's great to have problems like that. Yeah. Well, and that's what I find very much. I lived in Thompson for a few years. You very much like our community because you're sort of all there together. You support each other and I don't care.
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What happens is there's always so many activities. People intentionally create opportunities in the North, you know, and it was actually, really dramatic, dramatically noticeable when we moved here. It's like you could be busy every day of the week. There's so many activities because, again, northerners have their sense of nobody is coming to save us.
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And so if we want to do something, we just build it. We just do it. We tend not to ask permission and we tend to just make things happen. And again, it's that sense of, being remote, and relying on one another and ourselves. And so then would you say, Becky, that, that takes a lot of volunteerism in terms of, you know, to have, a daycare board run, to have your recreational facilities run.
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So you need a lot of volunteers and, community capacity. And so therefore, the reason why I ask this question is because if someone chooses to relocate or as a newcomer to the North, there's lots of opportunities to get involved in the community and build your resume through volunteering. Yeah. And I think it's one of the best reasons to choose a rural or northern community.
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As I those service organizations, volunteer organizations that exist, it's one of the best ways to meet people and to get to know your community and your neighbors. So when we moved here, my husband and I, both joined the. He joined the kinsmen. I joined the club. Right. So National Service Organization, which has a presence here and, again, got to do a lot of fun things socially, but also, a lot of community service work.
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We have a super active Rotary Club, and those organizations give back to the community and a lot of ways. So the Rotary Club, made a significant contribution to the new aquatic center that's going up in Flint Fawn. Yeah, lots of opportunities. We have a wonderful food bank. Our Salvation Army, runs a soup kitchen that operates, lots of opportunities.
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And you mentioned boards and committees. Again, we make things happen here. And so sometimes it's, you know, a group of 4 or 5 people just get together and start a parent committee to support music. And the schools parent committee is to support grads. Lots of ways to get involved. Whether you have a family or not. And what is the size of Flint Fund?
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Yeah. So Flint Fund is another interesting. Because that's not like a straight answer. No, it's because you have surrounding communities as well. Right? Right. So Flint Fund is actually a border community, which many people don't realize, but way it's that right on the border of, Saskatchewan and Manitoba, I can actually see the border from my office on Main Street in Flint.
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Flint? That's how closely tied we are. And so in Flint on itself, the last census was just over 5000 residents, and that's down from actually a peak population of about 15,000 when the mine sector was in its heyday. Here in our community, Creighton has about another 2000 residents and then the surrounding communities. We've got another thousand or so that live year round.
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So we say that our trading area is about 10,000. There are some large First Nations communities, a little bit further on the Saskatchewan side. So yeah, so it's really unique in that way. There's actually about 80 homes that are in Flint, Flint, Saskatchewan. There is a little part of wind farm that influence Saskatchewan. Okay. Yeah, that's interesting.
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Yes. And I'm going to assume to same thing, you know, because we've talked to Thompson, we've talked to the public housing fairly affordable for the most part for a lot of people. You have that opportunity to kind of get in the market or. Yeah, another I mean, another fabulous reason to choose Norris, is that we do have a decent supply of, housing for purchase.
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Rental supply can be up and down. I think like that's a nationwide problem, as we know. We hear about it on the news every day. But we actually in the city of Flint itself has a, $1 lot program. So we have a number of infill lots that are available in the city of Flint, Flint that you can purchase for $1.
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And yes, you heard that right. 1 CAD. So a person could go buy a lot for $1 and build a house or build a business or something. Correct. So these are residential lots. So I'm not sure about business, specifically, but there's lots. Again, you have to have a plan to develop or build within a certain time frame.
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So there is a there's a couple conditions on it, but again, it's a lot. I developed a lot service a lot for $1. And so again, we think that that's a really great opportunity. So Becky, let's talk a little bit more about community futures. And I love community futures because if people have listened to this podcast we are I worked for yeah, I worked for our Community Futures for 15 years.
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So I have a strong understanding of it. And right before we start the podcast, we had said something that when I worked there, I would always hear people say, oh, I don't know, you worked there and they didn't know what Community Futures did. Even though we constantly were out in the community doing stuff. So I think this is a great opportunity for you to tell everyone, what Community Futures does and, and how it, offers assistance to people living in the North.
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Yeah, absolutely. So in Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta, the community futures programs are funded through the prairies Economic Development Canada, through the federal government. Our offices are funded to support entrepreneurship and to support communities. So we really help business owners or new entrepreneurs. And what's really cool is that we meet them at whatever state they're at. So we see new clients that have an idea jotted down on the back of a napkin.
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They're not really sure where to start and what to do next. And then we also see people that have fully formulated business plans, that, again, are wondering what to do next or where to go for money. So a big part of what we do is that sort of one on one business coaching, supports, connecting to other service agencies and making those referrals.
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And then, part of it is also lending. We do have a business loan program so we can help connect entrepreneurs with that funding. They need to get started. Maybe they want to purchase a business that's already existing. We can finance that. Or we can also, finance folks to do an expansion. So again, we meet people where they're at.
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Unknown
We have a tools and resources available for all different stages. The other part of what we do, of course, is the community development. And so we do supports, just this last weekend, I was in one of our communities supporting a tourism strategic planning session. So that's some of the work we do as well with, helping communities on some of the more strategic pieces and, supporting non-profits, organizations, which I also really enjoy.
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So, for instance, this last summer, we did a strategic plan with the Flynn Flying Library Board and helped them to understand, you know, what they're going to do over the next few years as libraries, change all over. Yeah. So that's in a nutshell, what Community Futures does. And we know that, a lot of folks that come to Canada or come into new communities have business ideas, and they want to pursue those.
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And so I encourage people to reach out to their local community theaters. But we often know kind of what's happening in the community, maybe what businesses are for sale, what businesses are for sale quietly that people aren't advertising or aren't talking about. But yes or no, the entrepreneur is getting to that age or something's happening within the business.
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That's likely going to, lead to a change in ownership. And so we're a great, again, great place to come within the community to get some general information, even who's hiring, what's available for housing? Even though that isn't specific to our mandate, it is a way that we support, communities and support people, you know, relocating into our region.
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I want to clarify this to Community Features. It's not in cities, right. It's in the sort of the rural towns and northern areas, like, you wouldn't have a community featured in Winnipeg. That's correct. Yeah. So we specifically, serve rural and northern communities, which is, again, something that I just really love about our program because we know that there is unique challenges to starting and owning a business in a smaller place or in a more remote place.
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Unknown
And is it across Canada or is it just the prairies as well? We're actually all across Canada, so it's just the funding is delivered a little bit differently depending where you are in the country. Okay. And then in terms of you talked about, you know, Canadians, newcomers. So in terms of people who want to access your supports, people that would need to be either a citizen or have their permanent residency.
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Unknown
Correct? Yes. That's correct. And people who are earlier stage than that, I understand that there's a couple of agencies, even in Winnipeg, who help folks out, with like credential, recognition and some business support and coaching. Again, early stages. There's an organization called Seed Winnipeg Seed. Yeah, it does some of that work. So, but yeah, people who are a little bit further along that, you know, Canada is now home for them and are looking to, put down those roots and make some investments.
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Yeah. Community futures is a great first stop to understanding. How does this community need a grocery store? That convenience store that's on the corner has a for sale sign in the window. What's the deal with that? This building that's been empty on Main Street for years. What could go in there that the community could use? What would the community supports?
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It's again, a great place, to come and get some of that local knowledge and information. That's great. So, you know what? We'll do is we'll put the community futures link for community features. By Toba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, across or underneath our show notes. So speaking of that, the opportunities and can you tell us, are there certain sectors in Northern Natural that are experiencing labor shortages.
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So somebody was to relocate or a newcomer? Is there opportunity for them in the North? Yeah. Certainly. So again, we hear we're hearing in the news a lot about critical minerals mining. More developments in that area. And of course, that has traditionally been northern Manitoba is industry has been around natural resources, some mining and forestry.
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Unknown
And so we're hearing a lot about the new, Port of Churchill, improvements and also infrastructure improvements to the rail line to Churchill to support the activity of that port. So we foresee that we're going to have a lot more demand in the mining sector, and we are seeing a lot more training to implement programs, to support that.
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Unknown
We also see, again, forestry is a sector that, is cyclical, but it's definitely growing right now and is going to need to support some of the larger Build Canada projects that are coming. So, there's a large forestry operation and the poor and I think that will continue to see growth there as well. Definitely supply chain and logistics because that ports, this rail line, there is a new mine operation that's going about 80km from Flint line on the Scotch one side.
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And that's the foreign, it's a foreign copper operation. And, they have a 500 person cap. So again, they're moving a remote workforce in and out. And, we want to see again how we can capture some of those folks and encourage them to relocate here permanently. What's changed in the natural resource sector is that we no longer build communities around projects.
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Unknown
We build the projects, and we move the workforce in and out, so that it means a whole new reality for communities like Flin Flon where, you know, the mine here closed in 2022, but there isn't a ton of, unemployed miners right now, as most of them are working at hut Bay Operations and Snow Lake or at foreign operations.
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Unknown
So there is a lot of opportunity in the mining sector. People need to understand the reality with that is that you're kind of moving in and out of the camp, right? So you're going to be away from home for a period of time working, and you're going to be home for a period of time. Pros and cons to both.
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Unknown
If you're working in camp, you only work half the year. The salaries are very, very desirable. Fence line and Snow Lake tend to be in the top communities for per capita income in the province. And that is because of the mining sector. So those jobs are they pay very well. There's a lot of opportunities for growth as well.
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Unknown
You don't. And, it's not the, perception of the dirty miner working underground. There are so many jobs now. And technology and science, all mines have a, you know, state of the art laboratory facilities. There's environmental and water testing, safety jobs. They need janitorial. Yes. I mean, the mine sector comes with all these other pieces, right?
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So they need people to clean rooms, and the camp cooks, and it goes on and on. Yeah. And I think to, like you said, you know, if someone chose to say move to Flint Font and work at the mine and they have, you know, a partner, there's other opportunities within Flint one as well. So it's not as if or they can both work at the mine.
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Right. There's, there's not as if they're not going to be able to find employment. The other person, if they move for one job, there's so many opportunities around. Yeah, certainly. And so we also see a lot of opportunity in the health care sector. Right. So health care jobs are in demand, pretty much everywhere. And, what's really, I think a benefit to Flint.
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Flint as well. And a good choice to come here. We have that diploma practical nursing program that has a number of seats that, you know, they do intake every year. That was part of a huge expansion at the DPN program that the government did, across northern Manitoba. So sometimes if you want to grow your career in the health care field, you may not be able to find seats at some of the institutions in Winnipeg.
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Unknown
It doesn't hurt to look at a center up or in college to look at University College of the North, Northlands College out of the Saskatchewan side. And so again, more opportunity. And the Northern Manitoba mining Academy, which sits in Flint. Recently, invested in a $2 million student housing facility. So, again, there is opportunity for people to come here, do their training, reside here while they train, get a job here and then buy a house or get one of those $1 a lot of.
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Unknown
Yeah. So you know what Becky? That actually is brilliant. What you just said. Because a lot of people, especially newcomers that are international students and since, it's been cut in half, by the federal government, there's been a lot of struggles with, international students and, you know, receiving the right information from from people. And what you just said is a brilliant strategy because, you know, you have opportunities for people to come train in your community, and then you can get a job.
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Unknown
You know, and then you can stay there. And that's all the immigration strategy. Like that's really that's how simple it can be. But you have to pick the right career. You have to have the opportunity to, to be hired, you know, and then the opportunity to remain hired as well. So, yeah. So right, there was a really great way of, packaging how great the North is in terms of, you know, attracting international students and the opportunity you have within it.
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Unknown
So but that and I think to, you know, you gave a great example just of your own experience. You know, a lot of times people come and say, I'm going to stay for a couple of years and they stay because they realize what an amazing place it is to grow, raise a family and all the opportunities and realistically, you know, you're not that far from the South.
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Unknown
You can fly. You can drive. How what what is the drive? How long is it, say, to Winnipeg? Yeah, to Winnipeg. It's about 7.5 hours. And Saskatoon is actually about five and a half. So I got a couple of options and, we're seeing, you know, huge improvements in cell phone coverage. So it's much safer to travel in the north.
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Unknown
And it was even just a few years ago. There's been so many investments in and a lot of safety and communications. And so that's a huge benefit as well. Starlink internet systems have changed. You know, the opportunity is now really the sky's the limit, pardon the pun. But, you know, you kind of have that beautiful place at the lake at Cranberry Portage and you can be doing work for IBM or Google or the Government of Canada.
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Unknown
And so there's again, just the opportunities, limitations that we previously might have had some from technology or transportation are being, you know, reduced more and more is their flights to and from Poughkeepsie. Yes. So there's DC daily service, Winnipeg to the PA and frontline, from Winnipeg. So through common commerce, also a fantastic community partner.
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Unknown
It just does a lot to support the communities that they service. And so, yeah, daily flights, every day except Saturday. So again, you can easily get on a plane, come up here, spend a couple of days looking around and and checking things out. So are there any, you know, talking about sort of the industries and around you you've sort of covered, I think all of them.
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Unknown
Is there any other emerging industries or newer projects that haven't that are you're hearing about or coming up or anything that we've missed, I guess, to make sure we've covered that whole. Yeah. So I do want to mention, tourism and then I also want to mention arts and culture. So when you think about the North Sea, think about tourism, right?
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Unknown
Everybody wants to go to Churchill and see polar bears and belugas. And you should absolutely do that because it's life changing. And we of course, have beautiful northern lights. We have tremendous, wildlife viewing, angling, hunting and so, tourism opportunities. So, you know, we're always looking for entrepreneurs, business people who are interested in that sector, hospitality and accommodations.
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Unknown
There's always demand there. And then, real unique thing that you find in especially in our more, urban industrial communities, the Thompson, the PA front line, and also Churchill, I would have to mention huge arts and culture sectors and communities. That was one of the things that I found so ironic almost, about Flint when I moved here is, you know, you would meet somebody is like a rough and tough kind of minor with, you know, burly nickname and worked underground all his life.
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Unknown
And he sings in a community choir on Saturday afternoons. Right. And so it's this really interesting dichotomy of that, you know, our tourism brand is the water and the wild and that, sort of that wild part of it is that unexpectedness that you can find here. And it creates such an interesting and unique history. A lot of folks working hard to capture the history and the heritage and culture.
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Unknown
And so, yeah, if you want to understand more about how the North was settled, how communities grew, how the mining sector grew in the North, there's just a ton of of history here and some fun. Yeah. I mean, so basically, like you said before, the sky's the limit in terms of opportunities in whatever industry you want it.
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Unknown
It's there. Yeah. And, we have great education facilities in the community. And so I know that, teaching positions, you know, there's always, there's always a need for teachers in the community. And we get a lot of new residents, we get a lot of teachers, especially from Ontario. And they come here and they also a lot of folks, get engaged with the arts community, and they just love it.
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Unknown
Right? So they just thrive here. My children actually had a teacher a couple of years ago from the East Coast. She moved here. She taught for a couple of years. Her and her partner went back to the East Coast, and within two years they were back. And they have now bought a home and stayed here. I have another example of a teacher and a partner who moved here.
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Unknown
They were only planning to be here for 2 or 3 years. They left, did some teaching internationally, came back, bought a house. So it's kind of cool that like people come, they stay and even if they leave, there's that pull to come back. That's so awesome. So okay, you mentioned tourism. So we're going to, wrap it up with one of our final questions.
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Unknown
And we'd love to ask everyone that we, have a chat with. So if someone's listening and they're considering moving to the North, you know, in terms of before, what steps would they take to get there? Would you tell them to come for a visit? And if so, what would you tell them to do for the day?
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Unknown
Certainly. So it would their the itinerary would depend on summer versus winter. But again, keeping with your theme, let's assume winter. I encourage people to, check out the fun, fun bomber, our sj hl, minor hockey team. So Flynn Flynn has an expansive hockey history, several NHL players came out of this community, including Bobby Clarke and Reggie.
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Unknown
Late success. Very famous. Manitobans. Our north, is the northern visual Arts Center. And so that's our artisans cooperative. So you can see some incredible, art there and a number of mediums. And then we're going to go out on our cross-country ski trails, which are world class facilities. And, we're going to take a group of folks, to experience that.
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Unknown
So I think that would be your day. And fun. Fun. Yeah. It do some hockey. Here it is. Art. And you get out on the land and, our cross-country ski trails with views are incredible. And what's the best way to reach out to me? I think we'll post. We'll post all of your information at the bottom.
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Unknown
If people want to reach out and just have a chat, if they're thinking about learning more about Flynn, Flynn, and all of that. Yeah, that would be great. So our office can be reached at (204) 687-6967. And people can also email us at men at MI and at CEF, as in Community Futures greenstone.com. Perfect. And everyone will have that in the links as well.
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Unknown
And I just wanted to add a little, another shout out to Community Futures. That's how I started. When, you know, 1,000%, I don't think I would be where I was today without the supports. Like I remember getting connected with Community Futures. They sent me up. There was a program running for women entrepreneurs. I was able to get a coach.
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Unknown
I learned how to create proposals, you know, got feedback. I had negotiated like all of those, and it was all funded, you know, that helped me get my first contract with a company. And I've gotten a grant for other things as well. Like it's just amazing to me. So I encourage anyone who is living in a rural community that should be one of your first.
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Unknown
It should be on your list of stops to make when you move to a new community is to check in with community futures. Well, and the other thing to community futures is made up of so they have paid staff, but they also have their board. Their board of directors are all volunteers. Right. So, you know, if you stop in to, you know, let's say the office in Flint or anywhere and you say, okay, you know, and you're in this certain industry, I bet you whatever that the staff in any community futures will have a connection to say, oh, you should go speak to this person for that reason, right?
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Because the network that Community Futures has is, is astounding. So it's such a great resource for rural northern towns. Yeah. Absolutely awesome. Well that's so it's great to hear those positive comments. And and that's really what it's about. As for us to, you know, try and make a difference and help our communities to grow and thrive. And we know that new residents are a part of that.
00:31:48:09 - 00:32:11:11
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Well, thank you so much, Becky, for coming on the show, everyone. We're going to have all the links in the show notes, but definitely check out Flint on check out Community Futures greenstone. And thanks again for listening. Until next time, Liberal live well. If you feel this could assist other people like yourself, please like and share a podcast as well.
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