WEBVTT Kind: captions Language: en 00:00:00.359 --> 00:00:02.790 it was a clear Sunny morning in Hexum 00:00:02.800 --> 00:00:05.150 England the kind of morning where life 00:00:05.160 --> 00:00:08.430 feels peaceful birds chirping neighbors 00:00:08.440 --> 00:00:11.150 offering quick smiles and the Pollock 00:00:11.160 --> 00:00:13.509 family getting ready for church 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:15.789 11-year-old Joanna was buttoning her 00:00:15.799 --> 00:00:18.150 coat while six-year-old Jacqueline 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:20.830 clutched her favorite doll the one she 00:00:20.840 --> 00:00:23.109 never left behind the Two Sisters 00:00:23.119 --> 00:00:25.830 skipped along the Cobblestone path hand 00:00:25.840 --> 00:00:28.710 in hand their Giggles bouncing off the 00:00:28.720 --> 00:00:31.470 quiet streets behind them their mom 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:34.670 Florence walked at her own pace soaking 00:00:34.680 --> 00:00:36.990 it all in one of those perfect little 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:39.030 moments that every parent tucks away in 00:00:39.040 --> 00:00:41.709 their heart but life doesn't always let 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:44.069 you hold on to those moments out of 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:46.709 nowhere a car came barreling down the 00:00:46.719 --> 00:00:50.029 street not a slow careful approach just 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:52.510 a sound of screeching tires and a sudden 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:55.750 blur of metal Witnesses would later say 00:00:55.760 --> 00:00:58.189 it happened in an instant like the car 00:00:58.199 --> 00:01:01.990 appeared out of thin air and and then 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:05.109 silence when Florence reached the scene 00:01:05.119 --> 00:01:07.749 her world crumbled both Joanna and 00:01:07.759 --> 00:01:10.109 jackelin were lying still on the 00:01:10.119 --> 00:01:13.710 pavement the driver pale and shaking 00:01:13.720 --> 00:01:16.550 kept mumbling apologies but no words 00:01:16.560 --> 00:01:18.830 could fix what had just happened the 00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:21.590 Pollock's home once filled with laughter 00:01:21.600 --> 00:01:24.429 became unbearingly quiet days turned 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:27.270 into weeks and weeks into months but the 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:30.510 pain that didn't go anywhere 00:01:30.520 --> 00:01:33.149 a year later though Florence got some 00:01:33.159 --> 00:01:36.510 unexpected news she was pregnant not 00:01:36.520 --> 00:01:39.310 just pregnant she was expecting twins at 00:01:39.320 --> 00:01:41.310 first it felt like life was giving her a 00:01:41.320 --> 00:01:43.990 second chance a glimmer of hope after 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:46.429 the darkest year of her life but when 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:49.510 the twins Jennifer and Jillian were born 00:01:49.520 --> 00:01:52.630 well things got strange could it be that 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:55.870 Joanna and Jacqueline never really left 00:01:55.880 --> 00:01:58.310 and what if the Pollock twins are proof 00:01:58.320 --> 00:02:00.350 of something we're not ready to 00:02:00.360 --> 00:02:02.320 understand let's dive into 00:02:02.330 --> 00:02:24.949 [Music] 00:02:24.959 --> 00:02:28.150 it when Jennifer and Jillian were little 00:02:28.160 --> 00:02:30.390 they seemed like your typical twins 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:32.869 always together full of energy and 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:35.390 keeping their parents on their toes but 00:02:35.400 --> 00:02:37.550 if you paid close attention there was 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:40.229 something off something you couldn't 00:02:40.239 --> 00:02:42.630 quite put your finger on Jennifer was 00:02:42.640 --> 00:02:45.229 the quieter one often getting lost in 00:02:45.239 --> 00:02:48.390 her own thoughts one afternoon while 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:51.030 rumaging around she pulled out an old 00:02:51.040 --> 00:02:54.550 worn doll hugging it tight she declared 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:57.270 this is mine Florence 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:00.350 Froze that doll had belonged to Jack 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:03.350 the daughter she lost it had been boxed 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:06.350 up and hidden away after the accident in 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:08.910 a place the twins had never been near 00:03:08.920 --> 00:03:11.390 and that wasn't the only weird thing the 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:13.229 twins started showing these little 00:03:13.239 --> 00:03:16.030 quirks habits that made Florence's 00:03:16.040 --> 00:03:18.789 stomach flip they asked to visit a park 00:03:18.799 --> 00:03:21.270 they never been to a park Joanna and 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:23.550 Jacqueline used to love they played 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:26.229 games with rules Florence recognized 00:03:26.239 --> 00:03:28.350 rules she thought were unique to her 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:31.030 late daughters and then there was their 00:03:31.040 --> 00:03:34.229 absolute Terror of cars they'd Scream 00:03:34.239 --> 00:03:37.309 the car is coming for us like they were 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:39.350 reliving something no six-year-old 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:42.630 should even imagine John ever The 00:03:42.640 --> 00:03:45.509 Logical one waved it all off kids pick 00:03:45.519 --> 00:03:47.309 up on things he'd say they're 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:49.509 imaginative but Florence wasn't buying 00:03:49.519 --> 00:03:52.630 it the memories the behaviors they 00:03:52.640 --> 00:03:55.949 weren't random and as the twins grew the 00:03:55.959 --> 00:03:58.589 evidence kept piling up Jennifer had a 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:00.270 scar on her forehead 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:02.190 right where Jacqueline had one from a 00:04:02.200 --> 00:04:04.670 childhood fall and then there was that 00:04:04.680 --> 00:04:07.149 faint birth mark on Jennifer's waist 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:09.949 identical to the one Joanna had 00:04:09.959 --> 00:04:12.589 coincidence maybe but Florence couldn't 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:14.550 shake the feeling that something much 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:17.430 deeper was happening here it wasn't just 00:04:17.440 --> 00:04:19.550 the physical stuff though it was the way 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:22.150 the twins interacted like they had this 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:24.030 connection that went beyond normal 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:26.830 sibling stuff the things they said The 00:04:26.840 --> 00:04:29.150 Way They Carried themselves it was all 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:30.790 too familiar 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:34.590 to uncanny before long the house was 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:37.029 full of laughter again but it wasn't 00:04:37.039 --> 00:04:39.189 Carefree laughter there was this 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:42.469 undercurrent of unease like every giggle 00:04:42.479 --> 00:04:44.749 came with a reminder of what Florence 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:47.629 and John had lost and what they might 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:50.270 have found again every day brought a new 00:04:50.280 --> 00:04:52.830 surprise a new question and another 00:04:52.840 --> 00:04:55.029 reason for Florence to wonder if she 00:04:55.039 --> 00:04:56.670 really knew where the line between life 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.189 and death was drawn Jennifer and Jillian 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:01.670 weren't just a family mystery they were 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:04.189 living breathing proof that maybe the 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:06.469 impossible isn't as impossible as we 00:05:06.479 --> 00:05:08.749 think what happened next would take 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:11.710 their story from strange to Flatout 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:13.990 extraordinary and it's why people are 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:16.790 still talking about the polu till this 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:20.440 very day 00:05:20.450 --> 00:05:31.830 [Music] 00:05:31.840 --> 00:05:33.710 the whole thing with the Pollock twins 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:36.390 wasn't just weird it was impossible to 00:05:36.400 --> 00:05:39.830 ignore even John the skeptic started to 00:05:39.840 --> 00:05:42.790 waver he couldn't explain away the way 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:44.629 these girls just knew things they they 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:46.870 had no business knowing the park the 00:05:46.880 --> 00:05:49.590 doll the games they hadn't just heard 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:52.309 about these things in in passing it was 00:05:52.319 --> 00:05:55.550 like they'd Liv them in Florence she was 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:57.710 starting to wonder if she was staring at 00:05:57.720 --> 00:05:59.950 something way bigger than just a family 00:05:59.960 --> 00:06:02.909 mystery could her daughter's lives 00:06:02.919 --> 00:06:04.870 actually be connected to something none 00:06:04.880 --> 00:06:08.270 of us can fully understand all right so 00:06:08.280 --> 00:06:10.550 what's really going on here let's dig 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:12.629 into what science might have to say 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:15.189 about cases like the Pollock twins where 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:17.390 things get so weird you don't know if 00:06:17.400 --> 00:06:19.990 it's biology memory or something we 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:23.950 can't explain messing with us first up 00:06:23.960 --> 00:06:27.430 epigenetics fancy word right it's this 00:06:27.440 --> 00:06:29.830 fascinating idea that trauma or major 00:06:29.840 --> 00:06:32.909 life events can leave little imprints on 00:06:32.919 --> 00:06:35.309 your DNA and get passed down through 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:37.390 generations kind of like your genes 00:06:37.400 --> 00:06:40.350 keeping a diary of the bad stuff Marcus 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:43.309 pmry one of the big names in this field 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:45.629 did studies on the kids and grandkids of 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:48.830 trauma survivors in get this he found 00:06:48.840 --> 00:06:50.909 that things like famine or extreme 00:06:50.919 --> 00:06:53.309 stress could actually change how genes 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:56.150 are expressed in future Generations not 00:06:56.160 --> 00:06:58.309 just Health stuff either it could even 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:02.029 shape behaviors and years so for example 00:07:02.039 --> 00:07:03.909 kids born to survivors of the Dutch 00:07:03.919 --> 00:07:06.390 hunger winter had higher chances of 00:07:06.400 --> 00:07:09.510 anxiety and metabolic problems even 00:07:09.520 --> 00:07:10.749 though they never lived through the 00:07:10.759 --> 00:07:14.430 famine themselves pretty wild right so 00:07:14.440 --> 00:07:16.230 could something similar have happened 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:18.950 here did the tragedy that took Joanna 00:07:18.960 --> 00:07:21.309 and Jacqueline leave some kind of 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:23.589 epigenetic echo that showed up in 00:07:23.599 --> 00:07:26.350 Jennifer and Jillian sure this doesn't 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:28.990 mean reincarnation necessarily but it 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:31.270 shows how how memory and biology might 00:07:31.280 --> 00:07:33.150 be Tangled Up in ways we're only 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:35.749 starting to figure out now let's talk 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:36.749 about 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:40.070 grief have you heard of Pauline boss 00:07:40.080 --> 00:07:42.029 she's done some incredible work on what 00:07:42.039 --> 00:07:45.390 she calls ambiguous loss it's the kind 00:07:45.400 --> 00:07:47.070 of trauma that doesn't let you fully 00:07:47.080 --> 00:07:49.830 move on like when someone dies suddenly 00:07:49.840 --> 00:07:52.950 or tragically she found that grief can 00:07:52.960 --> 00:07:55.510 do some sneaky things to your mind like 00:07:55.520 --> 00:07:57.430 making you project the traits of someone 00:07:57.440 --> 00:08:00.909 you lost onto others or searching for 00:08:00.919 --> 00:08:02.189 patterns that give you a sense of 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:04.550 connection think about it Florence and 00:08:04.560 --> 00:08:07.149 John lost their daughters in a way no 00:08:07.159 --> 00:08:09.430 parent should ever have to endure that 00:08:09.440 --> 00:08:11.749 kind of heartbreak doesn't just go away 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:14.149 it changes you at your core so could 00:08:14.159 --> 00:08:16.430 their longing for Joanna and jacal in 00:08:16.440 --> 00:08:18.149 have influenced how they saw Jennifer 00:08:18.159 --> 00:08:20.550 and Jillian could their grief have 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:22.469 without them realizing it shaped the 00:08:22.479 --> 00:08:25.510 twins behaviors and memories and let's 00:08:25.520 --> 00:08:27.830 not forget the whole twin thing you've 00:08:27.840 --> 00:08:29.670 probably heard stories about how twin 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:32.269 seem to share this weird almost psychic 00:08:32.279 --> 00:08:36.149 connection psychologist Thomas Bard did 00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:38.230 famous studies on identical twins 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:40.469 separated at Birth and the stuff he 00:08:40.479 --> 00:08:42.829 found will blow your mind twins who 00:08:42.839 --> 00:08:45.150 didn't even know each other had eerily 00:08:45.160 --> 00:08:48.070 similar habits careers and even made the 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:51.310 same Life Choices one set of twins both 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:53.949 went into law enforcement married women 00:08:53.959 --> 00:08:56.269 with the same name and vacation at the 00:08:56.279 --> 00:09:00.110 same Beach coincidence Maybe but it 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:02.590 shows how much genetics can do all on 00:09:02.600 --> 00:09:04.870 its own so could Jennifer and Jillian's 00:09:04.880 --> 00:09:07.230 similarities to their late sisters just 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:10.269 be a result of their shared genetics or 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:11.949 are we dealing with something that goes 00:09:11.959 --> 00:09:14.990 Way Beyond biology here's the thing even 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:16.630 with all this cool science to think 00:09:16.640 --> 00:09:18.710 about it doesn't fully explain what went 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:21.150 down with the Pollock twins the scar in 00:09:21.160 --> 00:09:23.670 Jennifer's forehead that matched jacelin 00:09:23.680 --> 00:09:25.150 the way they remembered places they'd 00:09:25.160 --> 00:09:27.630 never been the fear of cars that felt 00:09:27.640 --> 00:09:30.990 way too specific how do you explain that 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:32.630 science has its 00:09:32.640 --> 00:09:35.030 limits sometimes even the experts have 00:09:35.040 --> 00:09:37.110 to throw up their hands and say we don't 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:39.230 know and that's where things get 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:42.550 interesting what if science isn't enough 00:09:42.560 --> 00:09:44.269 what if Jennifer and Jillian weren't 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:47.110 just their daughters but Echoes of lives 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:49.190 that didn't want to let go carrying 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:51.230 memories that somehow broke the rules of 00:09:51.240 --> 00:09:53.670 time and death because of the poic twins 00:09:53.680 --> 00:09:56.350 teach us anything it's this maybe the 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:58.710 line between life and death isn't a hard 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:00.030 stop 00:10:00.040 --> 00:10:02.310 maybe it's more like a door and who 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:04.630 knows maybe we're just starting to 00:10:04.640 --> 00:10:09.290 figure out how to crack it 00:10:09.300 --> 00:10:19.670 [Music] 00:10:19.680 --> 00:10:22.269 open so the million-dollar question is 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:25.350 reincarnation real that's the main 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:27.470 question isn't it honestly the answer 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:29.590 depends on who you're talking to some 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:32.069 people swear by it others roll their 00:10:32.079 --> 00:10:34.550 eyes and most of us are somewhere in the 00:10:34.560 --> 00:10:36.870 middle scratching our heads but one 00:10:36.880 --> 00:10:39.190 thing's for sure it's a topic that keeps 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:41.590 coming up whether you're talking ancient 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:44.150 philosophy religion or even modern 00:10:44.160 --> 00:10:46.389 science and when you throw the Pollock 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:48.829 twins into the mix it feels like they 00:10:48.839 --> 00:10:51.069 might just hold a piece of the puzzle 00:10:51.079 --> 00:10:53.629 let's break it down further 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:56.509 reincarnation the idea that your soul 00:10:56.519 --> 00:10:59.030 energy or Consciousness can move into a 00:10:59.040 --> 00:11:02.470 new body after death isn't exactly new 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:04.030 people have been talking about it for 00:11:04.040 --> 00:11:06.110 thousands of years but here's where it 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:08.550 gets interesting some theories say 00:11:08.560 --> 00:11:10.430 reincarnation is a way for us to learn 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:13.030 lessons across lifetimes until we get it 00:11:13.040 --> 00:11:16.389 right like a cosmic game of try again 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:19.069 others think it's not so much a plan as 00:11:19.079 --> 00:11:21.430 it is a process one governed by 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:24.430 universal laws we barely understand and 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:26.790 then there's the science angle ever 00:11:26.800 --> 00:11:28.710 heard of the law of conservation of 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:30.110 energy 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:31.990 it's the idea that energy can't just 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:33.990 disappear it 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:36.790 transforms a burning log becomes heat 00:11:36.800 --> 00:11:40.310 and light a Falling Leaf feeds the soil 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:43.629 which nourishes new life so if that's 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:45.629 how energy works in nature could the 00:11:45.639 --> 00:11:48.030 same apply to us could the energy that 00:11:48.040 --> 00:11:51.350 makes us our Consciousness simply 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:53.069 reshape itself into something new when 00:11:53.079 --> 00:11:55.389 we die it's like thinking of Jennifer 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:57.629 and Jillian not as reincarnations in the 00:11:57.639 --> 00:11:59.629 mystical sense but as part part of this 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:02.269 big endless energy cycle now here's the 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:06.470 kicker what even is the soul some say 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:09.030 it's not the separate floaty thing but 00:12:09.040 --> 00:12:11.590 more like the core of our Consciousness 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:13.750 woven into the fabric of the universe 00:12:13.760 --> 00:12:17.110 itself Dr Jim Tucker who's done some 00:12:17.120 --> 00:12:18.990 pretty wild research on past life 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:22.230 memories thinks Consciousness might be a 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:24.470 fundamental part of reality like space 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:27.509 or time if he's right that means it 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:29.949 could stick around changing forms just 00:12:29.959 --> 00:12:32.430 like energy does and speaking of 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:34.750 researchers we've got to talk about Dr 00:12:34.760 --> 00:12:37.389 Ian Stevenson this guy spent decades 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:39.189 looking into kids who remembered past 00:12:39.199 --> 00:12:43.790 lives 2500 cases give or take he didn't 00:12:43.800 --> 00:12:46.269 just take their word for it he dug deep 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:47.949 crosschecking their stories with real 00:12:47.959 --> 00:12:50.750 world facts there's one case where a kid 00:12:50.760 --> 00:12:52.990 described a man's life down to the 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:55.470 layout of his house and the names of his 00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:57.870 family details that shouldn't have been 00:12:57.880 --> 00:12:59.910 possible to know is it's the kind of 00:12:59.920 --> 00:13:03.230 stuff that makes even Skeptics pause Dr 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:06.310 Tucker continuing Stevenson's work takes 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:08.430 it a step further by connecting all this 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:12.550 to Quantum Mechanics yep quantum physics 00:13:12.560 --> 00:13:14.269 the field that makes your brain hurt if 00:13:14.279 --> 00:13:16.230 you think about it too long Tucker 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:18.350 suggests that Consciousness could 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:20.750 operate on a Quantum level giving it a 00:13:20.760 --> 00:13:23.829 way to persist even after death pretty 00:13:23.839 --> 00:13:26.269 wild right and it's not just scientists 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:28.470 getting in on this religions have been 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:30.710 talking about reincarnation forever 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:33.629 Hinduism and Buddhism tie it to Karma 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:35.750 what you do in one life sets the stage 00:13:35.760 --> 00:13:38.910 for the next Tibetan Buddhism even has a 00:13:38.920 --> 00:13:40.990 whole system for identifying The 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:43.350 Reincarnation of the Dal Lama but it's 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:45.750 not just an Eastern thing ancient Greek 00:13:45.760 --> 00:13:48.269 thinkers like Pythagoras and Plato wrote 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:50.870 about the soul moving between bodies 00:13:50.880 --> 00:13:52.790 even early Christians flirted with the 00:13:52.800 --> 00:13:55.030 idea before it got booted out by the 00:13:55.040 --> 00:13:57.590 church for Florence and John Pollock 00:13:57.600 --> 00:13:59.710 though reincarnation wasn't some 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:02.550 abstract idea it was their reality 00:14:02.560 --> 00:14:04.350 imagine seeing your kids grow up with 00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:06.870 memories fears and quirks that belong to 00:14:06.880 --> 00:14:09.110 the siblings they never met the Pollock 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:10.710 twins didn't just remind their parents 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:12.910 of Joanna and Jacqueline they lived as 00:14:12.920 --> 00:14:14.829 if they carried pieces of their sisters 00:14:14.839 --> 00:14:17.230 with them that's not just strange it's 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:19.470 downright spooky but here's where it 00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:22.030 gets even heavier if reincarnation is 00:14:22.040 --> 00:14:25.069 real and hey that's a big if then 00:14:25.079 --> 00:14:26.670 everything we think we know about life 00:14:26.680 --> 00:14:28.710 and death might be wrong throw it out 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:30.749 the window know maybe the boundaries we 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:34.230 draw around alive and gone don't really 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:37.509 exist energy sticks around memories hang 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:40.310 on and who we are might not just vanish 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:42.230 when we're done here so what does that 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:45.470 mean for us are we carrying bits of past 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:47.629 lives in ways we don't even notice is 00:14:47.639 --> 00:14:49.670 the person you are today shaped by 00:14:49.680 --> 00:14:52.030 someone you were before if the Pollock 00:14:52.040 --> 00:14:54.350 twin story is any clue we've got a lot 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:56.389 more questions than answers and that's 00:14:56.399 --> 00:15:00.540 kind of incredible isn't it 00:15:00.550 --> 00:15:11.670 [Music] 00:15:11.680 --> 00:15:13.949 of course not everyone's buying the idea 00:15:13.959 --> 00:15:15.949 that the Pollock twins are walking proof 00:15:15.959 --> 00:15:18.670 of reincarnation Skeptics oh they've got 00:15:18.680 --> 00:15:20.350 a laundry list of reasons to pump the 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:22.030 brakes on this story but let's break it 00:15:22.040 --> 00:15:24.550 down a little first up those birth marks 00:15:24.560 --> 00:15:26.629 you know the ones that matched Joanna 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:28.350 and Jacqueline so perfectly well 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:29.470 Skeptics saying 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:31.990 eh coincidence birth marks are pretty 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:34.189 common right it's like seeing shapes in 00:15:34.199 --> 00:15:35.749 the clouds if you're looking for 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:37.910 something you'll find it they call it 00:15:37.920 --> 00:15:40.670 confirmation bias basically your brain 00:15:40.680 --> 00:15:42.150 connects thoughts that maybe shouldn't 00:15:42.160 --> 00:15:44.269 even be in the same picture then there's 00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:47.629 the memory thing enter Elizabeth Loftus 00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:50.110 a psychologist who's made a career out 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:52.030 of studying how tricky and unreliable 00:15:52.040 --> 00:15:54.749 memory can be she's shown how easy it is 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:56.949 to plan false memories even without 00:15:56.959 --> 00:15:59.790 meaning to so skeptic might argue that 00:15:59.800 --> 00:16:02.269 Florence and John grieving and desperate 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:03.590 to feel connected to their lost 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:05.710 daughters could have influenced Jennifer 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:07.790 and Jillian in ways they didn't even 00:16:07.800 --> 00:16:11.069 realize A little nudge here a suggestion 00:16:11.079 --> 00:16:13.430 there it's not impossible and let's not 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:16.230 forget kids are super imaginative 00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:18.670 seriously their brains are like creative 00:16:18.680 --> 00:16:21.710 factories cranking out wild stories in 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:24.590 scenarios all day long so when Jennifer 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:26.910 and Jillian talked about schoolyards and 00:16:26.920 --> 00:16:29.269 toys they'd never seen could it have 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:31.550 been their imaginations running wild 00:16:31.560 --> 00:16:35.189 critics say probably and finally there's 00:16:35.199 --> 00:16:37.749 aam's Razer that's the idea that the 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:40.069 simplest explanation is usually the 00:16:40.079 --> 00:16:43.150 right one and for Skeptics the simplest 00:16:43.160 --> 00:16:46.030 explanation here is grief Florence and 00:16:46.040 --> 00:16:47.870 John lost their daughters in a horrific 00:16:47.880 --> 00:16:50.670 way and maybe they saw their twins as a 00:16:50.680 --> 00:16:53.269 way to keep Joanna and Jacqueline close 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:55.790 combined that with genetics Jennifer and 00:16:55.800 --> 00:16:58.670 Jillian are their siblings after all in 00:16:58.680 --> 00:17:00.710 the natural tendency for kids to pick up 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:02.829 on their environment and you've got a 00:17:02.839 --> 00:17:05.429 theory that doesn't involve past lives 00:17:05.439 --> 00:17:08.510 but here's the thing hold up a sec none 00:17:08.520 --> 00:17:10.630 of these explanations cover everything I 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:13.069 mean how do you explain the twins crazy 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:15.750 specific memories of places they never 00:17:15.760 --> 00:17:18.789 been or toys they never touched and what 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:21.309 about that raw gut-wrenching fear of 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:24.270 cars that wasn't just kid Jitters it was 00:17:24.280 --> 00:17:26.429 like they were reliving something even 00:17:26.439 --> 00:17:28.069 when you line up all the logical 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:31.029 arguments this story still has very big 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:33.750 gaps big ones and that's where it gets 00:17:33.760 --> 00:17:35.909 interesting because no matter how hard 00:17:35.919 --> 00:17:38.110 the Skeptics try to pin this down the 00:17:38.120 --> 00:17:40.190 pollic Twin story keeps slipping through 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:42.750 the cracks leaving us with just as many 00:17:42.760 --> 00:17:46.660 questions as 00:17:46.670 --> 00:17:56.750 [Music] 00:17:56.760 --> 00:17:59.110 answers you know no matter what you 00:17:59.120 --> 00:18:01.510 believe the poock family story is one 00:18:01.520 --> 00:18:03.830 that really sticks with you it's got 00:18:03.840 --> 00:18:08.549 everything love loss hope heartbreak the 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:11.149 whole range of Human Experience just 00:18:11.159 --> 00:18:13.669 imagine for a second losing not one but 00:18:13.679 --> 00:18:15.470 two of your kids in a single horrible 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:18.070 moment I'm a dad and that's just 00:18:18.080 --> 00:18:20.230 gut-wrenching the joy and laughter that 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:23.270 once made your house feel alive gone 00:18:23.280 --> 00:18:25.789 just like that Florence and John Pollock 00:18:25.799 --> 00:18:28.230 lived through a tragedy most of us can't 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:30.470 even begin to wrap our heads around and 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:33.430 yet somehow out of that unimaginable 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:36.149 grief they found something extraordinary 00:18:36.159 --> 00:18:39.310 this belief this hope that their 00:18:39.320 --> 00:18:41.029 daughters had come back to them in some 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:43.270 way for anyone who's ever lost someone 00:18:43.280 --> 00:18:45.830 they love whether it's a child a parent 00:18:45.840 --> 00:18:49.149 a friend that idea hits very deep the 00:18:49.159 --> 00:18:50.830 thought that death isn't the end of the 00:18:50.840 --> 00:18:53.669 road but maybe just a pit stop that 00:18:53.679 --> 00:18:56.310 somehow somewhere you could be reunited 00:18:56.320 --> 00:18:58.310 with the people you've lost it's a kind 00:18:58.320 --> 00:19:00.470 of hope that goes Way Beyond logic or 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:03.630 science it's something raw and Universal 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:05.870 something that makes us human and here's 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:07.870 the thing grief doesn't just stop when 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:11.070 someone's gone it lingers we hold on to 00:19:11.080 --> 00:19:13.110 their memories look for little signs of 00:19:13.120 --> 00:19:15.149 them everywhere a laugh that sounds like 00:19:15.159 --> 00:19:17.870 theirs a place that reminds us of them 00:19:17.880 --> 00:19:20.230 it's not just sentimentality it's this 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:23.390 Instinct this need to believe that love 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:25.750 doesn't vanish when someone does maybe 00:19:25.760 --> 00:19:27.950 that's the point love doesn't obey the 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:30.909 rules of time and space it sticks around 00:19:30.919 --> 00:19:33.070 even when it doesn't make any sense like 00:19:33.080 --> 00:19:35.590 for example why do we keep loving people 00:19:35.600 --> 00:19:38.270 who are gone what's the use in that but 00:19:38.280 --> 00:19:40.990 we do it anyway maybe it's because love 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:43.510 isn't just a feeling it's a connection a 00:19:43.520 --> 00:19:45.549 connection that goes deeper than biology 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:47.990 or brain chemistry it's like the only 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:50.590 thing in this world that refuses to be 00:19:50.600 --> 00:19:53.029 Boxed In by science or Reason and 00:19:53.039 --> 00:19:55.190 honestly that's what gets me about the 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:57.789 story love feels like the one thing we 00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:00.390 know that truly transcends it doesn't 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:02.070 just fit neatly into our little 00:20:02.080 --> 00:20:04.430 three-dimensional World kind of like in 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:06.110 the movie inter Setter remember that 00:20:06.120 --> 00:20:09.590 scene consider this the love that we all 00:20:09.600 --> 00:20:11.390 experience with our children and loved 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:13.549 ones is more profound than we can 00:20:13.559 --> 00:20:15.950 explain they talk about how love isn't 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:18.590 something we invented it's real it's 00:20:18.600 --> 00:20:21.909 observable it's powerful it means much 00:20:21.919 --> 00:20:24.590 more than social utility social bonding 00:20:24.600 --> 00:20:26.750 and child rearing we love people who 00:20:26.760 --> 00:20:30.149 have died there's no utility in that 00:20:30.159 --> 00:20:32.789 maybe it means something more something 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:35.590 we can't yet understand maybe it's some 00:20:35.600 --> 00:20:37.390 evidence some artifact of a higher 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:39.510 Dimension that we can consciously 00:20:39.520 --> 00:20:41.789 perceive love is the only thing that 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:43.310 we're capable of perceiving that 00:20:43.320 --> 00:20:46.470 transcends dimensions of space and time 00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:49.230 and if love truly transcends dimensions 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:51.510 then perhaps the pollic twins aren't 00:20:51.520 --> 00:20:53.510 just the story of reincarnation they're 00:20:53.520 --> 00:20:56.630 a reminder a reminder that love in all 00:20:56.640 --> 00:20:58.870 its mystery might just be the bridge 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:00.950 between life and death between what we 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:03.830 know and what we're only beginning to 00:21:03.840 --> 00:21:06.750 grasp so Dad if you're listening from 00:21:06.760 --> 00:21:09.750 some other dimension Beyond this life I 00:21:09.760 --> 00:21:11.909 love you I will always be searching for 00:21:11.919 --> 00:21:14.070 you and I can't wait to find you once 00:21:14.080 --> 00:21:19.900 again whether in this life or the 00:21:19.910 --> 00:21:23.269 [Music] 00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:25.870 next all right folks you made it to the 00:21:25.880 --> 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