Welcome to the Drop the Needle Podcast, your backstage pass to the mystical realm. I'm your host, Jim Alstatt. And here, gifted souls step up to the mic, sharing their spiritual journey. We're hitting the high notes and the low notes of their awakening, creating a symphony of enlightenment. This isn't just another interview show. This is where divine insights are channeled and universal truths are revealed. So crank up your stereo and sit back, because who knows? This just might help you. You compose the next transformative chapter of your soul's purpose. Are you ready? Let's go. Hi, everyone, and welcome to the Drop the Needle Podcast. I'm your host, Jim Alston. I'm so happy you all decided to join us. Have you ever seen someone on a television show get hypnotized and do something embarrassing? Like, out of nowhere, they just start walking around clucking like a chicken? Or maybe you thought you were just way too smart to be hypnotized. That person could never do something like that. Well, joining us today is Lindsay Robinson, a certified hypnotherapist. And a whole lot more. As we'll discover on today's episode, Lindsay's going to shed some light on hypnotherapy, specifically spiritual hypnotherapy and past life regressions. So let's jump on in. Welcome to the Drop the Needle Podcast. Lindsay. Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited. Excellent. I am, too. And we're just gonna hop on into this and get to it. So what exactly is hypnotherapy, and maybe what isn't it? Well, hypnotherapy is really. Hypnotherapy is a process of using hypnosis to help people thrive. So whatever that means for the client, whether it's, you know, opening to more money, reception, opening to a relationship, stopping a bad habit that they don't want to have anymore. Anything that's in your mind really that's kind of holding you back or that you feel might be holding you back. Hypnotherapy is really great for going in and teaching, helping you to teach your subconscious mind what is safe. So the only. I would say the only reason you have limiting beliefs is because that's what your subconscious believes is safe for you. And it may not make sense, and it probably doesn't to your conscious mind, but the main job of your subconscious is to keep you alive. And so whatever you learned along the way, maybe it's an experience you had or something that was put on you as a belief is kind of what your subconscious is going off of as to the program that's keeping you alive. And so if something. If there's a. I guess a disconnect between what it knows and what you feel is. Is reflective of your authentic self, then that's. That's where you would call a hypnotherapist or, or do some, maybe self hypnosis to help you kind of rewire some of that stuff that just isn't serving you and that maybe had an expiration date, but your subconscious doesn't know expiration date. So that's why throw that out. Yeah, yeah. It just. It just. If it worked once, then it'll work forever. That's the logic of the subconscious. So I can tell you, like, kind of how. If you want, I can go into how the subconscious is formed and why we have stuff in there that maybe doesn't make sense. Sure. Because I know along with the subconscious is the superconscious. So let's. Let's talk about that. So. So. Well, I'll go over kind of how the subconscious is formed first and then we can get into the really good stuff. So the basics of the subconscious really is if everyone can just kind of pretend for a moment, just visualize a circle as your mind. So when you're born, your babies are born with the fear of loud noises, the fear of falling, and the fight or flight response, which some people call the primitive mind or the lizard brain response. And that's it. So everything after that is a learned behavior, which is kind of good news because anything that's learned can be unlearned. Now, along with that, you have your reflexes, you have your breathing, your blinking, your digestion, all the things you don't have to think about. But as you're going through life as a. As a child, as a baby and getting older, you are kind of taking in everything as true because you don't really have anything to go against it yet. You don't really have discernment, if you will. And so they. That's why they say kids are sponges, because they really are taking in everything. Yeah, everything. And you like it or not, right? Like it or not. Yeah, They're. They're very observant. That's what they're here for, to observe and to learn. And so once you hit around 7 to 9, 7 to 10, this is a disagreement on the actual age. And everybody's different, but around that age you get what's called the critical filter or the critical mind, which acts as the barrier or the go between for the newly formed conscious and the subconscious mind. So around nine years old is right when your subconscious kind of gets separate from the conscious. Now what lives in the conscious is your logic, your decision making skills, your reasoning, your analytical skills, your willpower and, and again your logic. So that's where you get discernment, that's where you get like, well, I don't really know if this is true. Let me think about it for, for a long time. But in the subconscious now is all the knowns that you know to be true about yourself. So some things you know and some things you don't know. Some things are conscious to you, things that are true about you. Like you might dislike green beans but love broccoli or your preferences or experiences that you had emotions. That's all stuff that we can point to and be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true for me. Things you may not know about or may need help bringing up or maybe don't even notice until it, it's very prevalent to you is maybe some money stuff. So for instance, this is such a common one. But like if your parents said we can't afford that, or money doesn't grow on trees or you know, you have to work hard to get any money kind of thing, it will usually inevitably set up some certain beliefs that you may have about money. Doesn't mean they're right or wrong, it's just what you know to be true, what your subconscious has taken in as fact. And so anything that you want that goes outside of what your subconscious knows to be true can be very difficult. If your subconscious doesn't feel like it's safe. An unknown is just as powerful of a danger as a known threat. So if you want more money and there's something in your subconscious saying no, no, wait a minute, there's not enough. Like what do you mean we can't do that? And you're in that lack mentality. Again, you may not know this consciously, but you'll find it hard. It will feel difficult. So that's not anything necessarily that you're doing wrong. It's just your subconscious said no. And it is, and this is something I forgot to mention, but I'll slip it in. Your subconscious is about 90% of your mind power. Or like I'm being very generous when I say 90 because every study I see that number gets bigger. It, the biggest I've seen is like 98 of your mind power. We just don't know how much of it is controlling your day to day. But it Is, well, I think as you get older it would increase. Right, because you have those patterns that start to arise and get embedded. Yeah, very possibly. Absolutely. And normally day to day, your conscious and subconscious are working together harmoniously. I don't need to remember how to speak, but I do need to use my conscious to choose the words and hopefully they make sense so they do know how to work together. But when you have a goal that starts in the conscious, all goals start in the conscious. It will check in with that critical filter that I mentioned or the critical mind, which I like to think of as the bouncer at a club, you know, or like the guy with the clipboard at the door. And he will check if you have a goal. That goal will check in with this guy with the clipboard. And if there's anything on that clipboard that goes against that idea, it's just not getting it. It's not getting it. You can do this with willpower alone, but remember, you're using 5 to 10% of your mind power. Whereas if you were to teach your subconscious that your goal is safe through hypnotherapy or some, some sort of trance like state, you are bending time, you know, you're collapsing timelines to make it happen. Your subconscious is always turning out goals for you. It is a goal machine. That's what it does. That's what it knows how to do it. So you're, you know, 100 successful at being exactly who you are based off of what your subconscious believes is safe. So if you get, if you got to choose what your subconscious belief is safe, what would be possible for you? And that, my friends, is the world I live in. Very happy here. Well, so then where does this go? So that's just basic hypnotherapy. That's just like if you have a goal that you want to achieve and your subconscious is saying no, or it feels like there's something in your mind holding you back, that's where hypnotherapy comes in. Now when we get into spiritual hypnotherapy, that's more of like, yes, of course, goals are important too. I can do it all. But when someone comes to me and says, I want to feel more empowered, I want to be more my authentic self. I want to know my soul, I want to connect to my spirit, I want to know my spirit guides, or I want to meet my counsel, or I want to speak with my loved one who's passed that I never got closure with or mend a relationship that will never Be mended. There are things that I love to do with hypnotherapy that allow those things to happen that, that allow the client to go in and really kind of know themselves better at their core. Now if you come to me for money stuff or relationship stuff, and there's a just a fact, a natural side effect that you will know yourself, it's just what's going to happen. But if you come to me specifically for spiritual stuff, it is or like enhancing your psychic powers or like if you think you're psychic and you just want to hone in on that stuff, it's a really fun. It's really fun to do. It's a basic. So what you're saying is it's a. The same process the hypnotherapy and spiritual hypnotherapy, but the intentions are. Are different between the two. So to answer your previous question with the subconscious, we are going into that part of you that is that where. Where all of your automatic beliefs and behaviors live and teaching it what is safe. So that now the new automatic is you stepping into more abundance or you step finding that great relationship. And whatever the goal is, it will be a natural next step. With the super conscious we're going. I let. I just visualize it as like going up. Of course I have no idea, but that's just how I picture it. We're going. Instead of going in, we're going up. Which is weird because the superconscious. You're kind of doing both going into like your core core being. And then. I can see what you mean though. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's like superhero fly up. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So it's like higher consciousness, higher wisdom, access to all that is. Which again we do in hypnotherapy as well, but with, with spiritual hypnotic. That's. That's kind of how I differentiate is like we're. We're accessing the higher. Whatever the source, the, the universe, higher self and all of those records. You know, there's a lot of different names for it. But. But yeah, spiritual hypnotherapy is. Is really just the category of like anything about your soul or your spirit that you want to know. Anything about your authenticity, anything about your purpose or your abilities or your gifts or anything like that. Your spirit team. That's. That's where we would go more into the spiritual stuff. Past life regression falls in that category as well. Life between lives, future lives, all of that stuff is that soul retrieval is because I've heard that term used before. Or is that something completely different? I don't want to take us down to different rabbit holes. That's the thing. There's so many fun rabbits we could chase. There really are. Yeah. But. But soul retrieval, as I understand it now, I've never had someone come to me and be like, I want to retrieve my soul, because I don't know that that's what they know they're doing. But I would say soul retrieval is anytime somebody feel so disconnected that through a process of hypnotherapy or. Or a spiritual awakening of some kind, or any kind of spiritual journey that they might be on, allows them to know themselves and connect to themselves. And I can. There's probably a lot of people listening as well that can. That can attest to the fact that there are times when you felt very disconnected from your core being or disconnected from your spirit team or disconnected from your guys. If something happens, some. Some experience that you have or maybe a trauma that you have causes that disconnect or that. I don't know who I am. I don't know what I want. I don't know anything, but I know I don't like it. So. So I would. I would say, yeah, if somebody came to me and said that in so many words, not necessarily I want to retrieve my soul, but they said like, I don't know. I don't know what's purpose. I don't know who I am. I don't know my purpose. Right. And I feel very disconnected, very frustrated. Then I don't know that I would even call it a soul retrieval. But it is another natural byproduct of hypnotherapy that no matter what it is you want, you want to feel just really safe today. Let's go into hypnosis and feel really safe today. Let's go to your inner sanctuary and create safety and peace and relaxation and freedom and whatever it is that you need. And little by little, pieces of you come back home and until you feel like you. Right. And I. I say this all the time, but I refuse to believe. In fact, I will probably die on this hill. There's a lot of hills that I. That I will die on, but this is one of them. You cannot know yourself. You can't truly know yourself and not love yourself. It just can't. You can't. If you don't love yourself, you just don't know yourself that well. That's the old. You can't be thankful and. And mad at the. The same Time. You can't be bored and anxious at the same time, which is, you know. No, no, no. Yeah. They don't jive vibrationally. So I was just thinking about what you were saying with the soul retrieval and people going, oh, I want to retrieve my soul. And you were talking about some instances where that may occur. And I think that for a lot of people, that can happen in relationships. It can happen professionally, too, where they're like, you know what? I'm. This just isn't resonating with me. And it's not like I'm bored, but we're talking on a soul level or core beliefs and different things like that, where they're doing something that they consider to be amoral or if they change so much for a person in their relationship that they no longer recognize who they are. I see that happen frequently. Yeah. And I think there's. There's always a. A move without swearing. Oh, you can swear. Yeah. We have the. The E rating. Yeah. Yeah. So do we. But I know I never want to, like, assume. Do you want me to do it first? I think no, no, no. Because this is. This is important. I think that with any kind of, like, I guess if you're going through something and. And you. There's always a wake up moment or like a good off the pot moment where you're like, I have to move. I am so uncomfortable that something needs to happen. And we usually don't notice how uncomfortable we are until that point. Breaking point. Yeah. Yes. So, like, you could be in a relationship for five years and be asleep to the fact that this is not the right relationship for you. And then something happens, and one day you're like, oh, my gosh, how did I get here? And I love those moments. Not in my life. Not at the time. Of course you can't. We're not all knowing. But I love looking back at those moments and being like, wow, what a great moment to really know what I want. Because before that moment, I had no idea. I was just kind of floating along and this. And when. How I translate that to, like, the subconscious is like, it's not given up on you. It just. That's what it knows is keeping you safe right now until you decide it's not. I also think that that's when, for a lot of people out there, that's when spiritual awakening occurs too. Is that that moment, that breaking point? Right. Where I just can't do this anymore? And it's. For a lot of people. There's some confusion sometimes it could feel Like a nervous breakdown or. Or a loosening of the grip on reality where you just go. And you had even said sleeping through or, you know, sleepwalking through a relationship for 10, 15 years or career. Yeah, same. Same thing. Insert whatever it is in that instance. But it's true. So I find this to be the case with some people, and I don't advocate for divorce. So I'll say that right now, however, I see this happening with people that have a spiritual awakening and they've been in relationships for 15, 25, 30 years, and it's just like, yeah, this isn't. This isn't working. This isn't me. And it's unfortunate or fortunate, depending upon your point of view. Right. That somebody finally realizes that they can be their authentic selves and they can be accepted. And more than that, they can thrive. And I think that that's an important thing for people to realize. And through your practice, I think it allows people to do it maybe without having to do something so drastic, but they can start to. And maybe not. I don't. I don't know. I. That's, again, that's another rabbit hole to. To crawl down. But I think, I think what you're. You do, your service is a valuable service, and it's something that, as we're. We're talking, I. I personally find extremely interesting from the standpoint that I'm like, well, you know what? Maybe I should do that. And out of curiosity, let's say that I wanted to do spiritual hypnotherapy. Right. If I wanted to do that. How many sessions are you normally talking before that light bulb turns on or that that change starts to occur? Well, first I would say, why do you want to. What are you hoping to get out of spiritual hypnotherapy? Okay. So for me, personally, I would like, you know, I would absolutely. I would. I would love to have more communication with guides. Higher self, higher consciousness, that sort of thing that would be. We can talk energy systems, we can talk spiritual frameworks or frequencies. I would want to be more immersed in that on a regular basis. So it isn't just those moments during meditation or something like that that I'm able to tap into that, if. If that makes sense. Well, and just so you know, if you would have said, I don't know, I'm just curious, that would have been just as valid as. Well. Sure. No, I do have specifics that were going through my mind. Curiosity is a valid reason to do. To do any kind of hypnotherapy. But for, for the purpose, for the, for the purpose of this conversation. I don't know when people it. I can never really tell people, like, here's the amount of sessions that it will take because obviously, and you know, you. Yeah, I know. I'm telling. You already know. But I will say that most. And this percentage would be in the. 90. 90. Over 95%. Most of my clients see significant change in the direction of what they want after four to six sessions. Oh, that quickly. That's pretty quick. I do weekly sessions because I think especially in the first three. Consistency. Right. You want your subconscious to know what that this is happening. Yeah. And that's the best way to do it is every week, usually same day of the week, same time. But doesn't necessarily have to be that rigid. That's just what I prefer to do. But within about that amount of time. My most popular program is a 12 week session. It's a. It's a pretty. It's the biggest container that I currently have and it is again weekly. So 12 weeks of wow you. 12 weeks of going inward and discovering and, and gaining wisdom and meeting people. People meeting spirit team and just knowing more. And it is pretty. Is. It's a pretty magical time. Just before this podcast, I. I had a session with a client and I was late to this podcast. So apologies everyone, but it worked out. Absolutely. But. But what was so great is that there's very. There's a lot of moments that I get to witness, like how powerful this work is. Every session gives me that opportunity. But this particular session I was just in awe of like just how powerful we are as human beings. I felt like not just the client, the client absolutely did most of the work in terms of like being open and willing to take the journey. But I found myself in this kind of container. The magic is this when two people get together for the same intention. Right. I'm holding your vision the whole time. You are holding your vision the whole time. And it is a very powerful power in numbers. Yeah. And so as I'm sitting with her and creating her hypnosis or her script and writing down what she wants me to kind of say, in my way, I found myself writing and I didn't know what the next word was going to be until it was on the paper. And I've been told so many times, Lindsay, you need to start doing automatic writing. Because apparently that's just what I'm really good at doing. But in my head I'm like, I don't think I could really be There I think I would be too, in my conscious mind and I wouldn't let myself be able to like, see what happens. But today, in that moment, I was like, what is this gonna say? Oh, that's good. Like, I know, I know I was channeling. And when I speak to clients, sometimes I know I'm channeling. And so there's just something that happens that when I'm, you know, talking to my husband and we're bickering about dinner or like, you know, real life stuff, something happens when I'm with a client and they're present and open and willing. And I'm getting to like, unleash my brilliance, if you will. Which it does feel like that sometimes, I'm sure. But I also know it's, it's. It's not just mine. Like, I know I'm energetic exchanges and flow. It's an energetic exchange. And I know that I'm getting the message that this client in front of me needs right now. And then it's just it today, in, in particular, it's funny that we're talking about this today, but literally today I found myself going, wow, that was, that was powerful. And I did. You do tend to take for granted because you, you get you. If you let yourself, you'll get used to the magic. And I don't ever want to get used to the magic. I want take it for granted every single time. And so I was actually today I was like, all right, all right, universe, I see you. That's pretty cool. And I just. Anyway, I could go on all day, but it really is. The 12 week session or the 12 week program is probably my most popular because I do. I don't really recommend a certain program, but I will present them all to people and they usually will pick the 12 because it is, it is again, the biggest one and it's the one that allows them to explore all the different areas that they. I was just gonna say probably the most comprehensive and all encompassing type of program for you, especially align your mind method tm. Love it. I just had to plug it for a second. No, no, you can plug it all you want. And we will later too. So that's. I find that fascinating. And I also find your initial response to the automatic writing not surprising, by the way, especially given your training and your practice. There is an. An analytical approach that accompanies what you're doing. And there's a process, a set process that occurs. So that makes complete sense to me where you'd be like, okay, I've got To stay in this process and not allow myself to venture off from it. Yeah. Which would then translate into automatic writing to you. Wait a second. No, no. I've got to pay attention to what. What's going on versus I'm just going to let go and see what happens. And I think it is literally because I'm there for someone else. Well, you know that. I think that makes it easier. Yeah, it makes it easier to, like, let go and just let the message be what it is, because it's not personal to me. And so it can be what it's supposed to be. Rather. Rather than me. Like, what is it rationalizing it or trying to make it something that it isn't? You know, I don't do that with clients. I just let them let it be what it is. And, well, you're. You're a vessel for what's essentially being channeled either through them or through both of you at that point. Because it is a collective. It's a miniature collective. Well, actually, it's not even miniature, especially if you're talking about spirit teams, guides, councils, things of that nature. You know, there's. There's a. A community of people. It's not just one or two. Yeah. And it turns into a much larger community. Yeah. Yes. I always kind of. Well, I don't do this every time, but. But I. I try to. Before each session, I. I always call in my guides, but I also will try to call in the client's guides and just say, like, let's all work together for the highest outcome of all involved, and let's just make this, like, the most successful session that it can be. And it hasn't failed me yet. Honestly, it is exactly what you're describing. It is a community because you got their team, you got my team, you got my. I always call in my. My gods and goddesses and ancestors, all the angels. Yeah. I call in everybody. Everybody, let's go. It's time. Let's go. Let's get ready. No, I love that. And as a matter of fact, as a side note, when we're wrapping up today, I want to talk to you more about that, because I'm intrigued by that for myself. So I. I'd like to do it selfishly. So. Or not so selfishly, I suppose, but I mean, what's wrong with being selfish? And as long as you're not stepping on people. I think we need to take back the word selfish because we've made it mean something negative. But I don't think it should, you know, and Even my mom, like, my son got a really good grade on a test, and he was telling her because he was excited, and she was on the phone and she goes, well, don't. Don't brag about it. And I was like, all right, lady, listen. Yeah, he's. What? Probably. Why should he have to dampen his pride because it might make someone else feel a certain type of way. In my head, I'm thinking my accomplish. My ability to recognize my accomplishments is. The intention is. Now you have permission to acknowledge your accomplishments that make you different from mine. Yes. You open the door for that possibility to occur. Absolutely. Let's all celebrate ourselves. As long as we're not saying I'm better than you because of this. As long as we're not saying I'm gonna. You don't matter, but I do. As long as you're not saying that and your intention is good and you're just happy that you were able to accomplish this thing. Say it. Well, there's a healthy ego and an unhealthy ego. Right. So that's in. In my opinion, that's a healthy ego. To. To have that satisfaction and fulfillment occur after doing something Exactly. That is meaningful. And it doesn't mean, like you said, I'm better than you because I did. Well, you know, and maybe somebody else didn't get it, but that doesn't mean that other person isn't really good at something else. So, yeah, that. The neg. I. I think the not so good ego piece is when comparison comes in. Exactly. You know, look, I completely get that if. If my kid says in front of the class that he's very proud of himself for getting a test. There's another kid in class that might feel a certain type of way about it. But as adults, I feel like it's your responsibility how you take what is given to you. And if we learn one thing, I think that would be that. It would be that, like, A, you are so much more powerful than you've been told, and B, how are you process. How are you processing the stuff that's given to you? And is it a, healthy. In a healthy way, if everyone has good intention, sure. Then. Then we're good. Then we're all good, you know? Well, you know what? I think part of the issue is too, with adults, with some adults, not all, obviously, but with some adults, they're stuck in the childhood way of processing those things, and they don't mature or level up or ascend. Whatever you'd like to use in that instance. But that. That Happens and that's when the. Oh, he's bragging. He's bragging. Yeah, yeah. Oh, so what bragger? No, I'm just saying that I feel good about myself for, for doing that. Self care. Self is not selfish and I guess it would be in that category. That's not a selfish thing. And let me, let me, let me just level with everybody. I have those moments too still to this day. I will have moments where I'm like comparing myself or if somebody comes on and is super proud of themselves sometimes, most of the time I'm good because I still, I have the consciousness of like, wow, look at that. That's great. But there are moments, weaker moments where I'm like, what does it mean about me? But that's natural, right? It's natural. So yes, it is natural. And then also I then take that as an opportunity to be like, why am I making this about me at all? Why does something about me. Yeah. And what can I do to feel better about this and be happy for this person? Because why are we, why are we trying to bring each other down ever, really, ever? Well, and I think that that just shows that you have leveled up to or ascended to a different level and you can recognize things that are past triggers that still resurface from time to time. And again. We, I think something important with all of this is never to forget that we are human. We're here. Even though we may be celestial or spiritual bodies in a human suit, you know, that's okay because you're here. Well, and remember, ascended. Remember what I said about when your subconscious forms? Right, Correct? Yes. We're nine year olds walking around looking like adults. It's okay to feel how you feel. You're gonna feel all kinds of ways. That's why we're here. And I dare I say that's why we chose to come here, is to feel it all. We didn't come here for easy. We didn't come here to just live on a high pedestal at level 100 and just get everything we want the second we, we wanted. Right. Probably you can on a different planet. That's not this one. This one we came to learn. We came to, as you said, level up and ascend and to feel all the moments and, and hopefully a lot of them are good. And you, the only way you can feel the good is to have the contrast. You'd never know what joy felt like unless you felt the opposite. So another thing I hope for this episode is that people really embrace all the moments because they are really what that's the fuel is letting yourself feel everything and process everything in a healthy way and not try to ignore it. Stuff it down, shove it down. Because I see firsthand the result of that when clients come to me and they're like, well, I've never been allowed to feel, oh, well, let's go, let's start that. Yeah, well, that's a, that's a big one to take on right there. Yeah, it's a journey, but it's one I'm happy to, to help with because it's just so important. Well, let's talk really quickly then, unfortunately. But I love what we're talking about, by the way. So incorporated in that then is the past life regressions. So what type of benefits or what. What are you finding that people are typically looking for when they say, you know what? I'd really like to have a past life regression? Well, the main two reasons, there's, there's probably more, but the ones that I see are, A, I don't know where this pattern is coming from and this might be a possibility, or B, I'm just curious. And the people that are just curious because when there's a pattern, there's, there's a level of expectation of like, I want to go back to a life where this was prominent, where this maybe started, so that I can heal it and process it. But I always say, yes, we can have that intention and also trust your subconscious, your superconscious, to know exactly what you need today. Usually they're both one and the same, what you need. Sure. And. And is, is usually what the intention is, but not always. And so if you do have an intention for the past life, that's great. We can direct the subconscious to do that. Or the superconscious. I'm going to use them synonymously just for the sake of this conversation. Sure, sure. But. Well, there's not a, There is a difference in practice, but yeah, not enough for this. Yeah, so. So there is that. And then also if you just come to me and you're like, I just really want to know. Like, for me it's always been curiosity. Sure, always. Because I'm just hungry for knowing myself more at any given opportunity. Right. And so when I was able to do the past life regressions, it ended up being, oh, that's why I didn't drive till I was 24. That's why I have this fear of XYZ and it just kind of fits. Even if you're just curious and you have no intention. Yeah. Can I tell you, a friend of mine, she calls it dimension hops or dimension regressions. So that was interesting. And I was her first person to do it with her. I mean, she was practiced. It went through the coursework with her mentor, who recently passed Pat Longo in June. But we talked about. I think we talked about Pat last. Yeah, she was just an amazing soul. Just an amazing person. Loved her to death. In the short time I had to spend with her, it was life changing. But my friend Heather went through this and she brought me back into a life where I committed suicide from jumping from a building. And I had never realized where my irrational fear of heights came from. You know, and everybody's got a. You know, I'm not saying walk out onto a beam on the top of a skyscraper and see if you're afraid. Well, you better be right. Or if you're not, man, oh, man, are you something. But it was like climbing up a ladder. My hands would start to sweat, you know, my palms would start sweating, and I'd get this shaky feeling inside. Even if I were watching a movie, same thing would. Would happen. And then since that regression. Yeah. I was like, oh, okay, that makes sense. And I don't have that same feeling any longer, which you talk about a healing. I suppose that would. That would be it. But I guess I. I never. I would think about it, but never really think about why I was. Had this irrational fear. But it came out and it was like, okay, got it, move on, move through whatever you want to say. So it was. It was pretty cool. Do you know the cool thing about that is that we were just talking about processing your emotions and your feelings, and when you said that, it brought something to mind, which is the only thing you're. The only reason that you're feeling it at all is because it has a message. It's a messenger. It has a message for you. Whether the message is just, hey, hear me, hear me, I'm here, look at me, pay attention. And then once you do and you can acknowledge it, it is so much easier to be able to process it. Now you can do this with a past life regression. You could do this if I put you in hypnosis and just said, hey, let's talk to this fear of heights for a second, and you got the result that way. Great. But isn't it just more fun to do a passive. Yes. Hell, yes. Absolutely it is. And now you have. You have a very unique perspective. Well, not. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you do. You have a. You have an interesting perspective too. Because usually when I'm talking about this, I'm trying to, like, describe it as someone who's been through it, but also as a practitioner. So it's hard to be like, just trust me, guys, it's great. But can you actually, like, help me describe the feeling? Because for how I describe it is like, you are in the moment, but it feels like you're not. You're. You're almost watching it on a movie. That's the level of detachment. But you are also experiencing it. But you also know you're in the room with the therapist. You're. You're exactly right. So in this regression, I had the option to be a participant or a viewer and. Or both. And at any point in time when I did not feel safe, I could pull myself back and just watch. Yes. And it started with, look down at your feet. Where are you? And, you know, what type do you have shoes on? What time frame? Different things of that nature. And I am writing a. In the process of writing a book and really had finished it and going back through the developmental edits. And I asked Heather, because she recorded it, can you send me the recording so I can go through it again and describe it? And it was really interesting because she said, do you have a reference of time? 1930s. Do you know exactly when? Yes. 1932. And going through everything. What are you wearing? Wool. A darker brown wool suit, dress shoes. And I'm standing on top of this building. And so it was amazing to me to have that. Yes. Because, you know, I'll be the first to say that I am not a history buff. So I'm not reading about the Great Depression or the stock market, you know, 1929, you know, collapse and all of those different things. I don't do that. My interest is that what happened. Well, so it was in the Great Depression, and it was one of those things that. Yes. So as a result of me trying to make everyone's lives better through this investment stage, everything was lost. And I couldn't bear the fact that I lost everything for everyone else, that I was responsible for their futures, their lives. And it was like, okay, my contract was to do something different than that, and it wasn't going to be able to make it possible. So my choice was then to exit. Exit. And who. That's cool. It was. It's weird to say it's cool, but I love all of this. No, no, in the very. The really interesting thing about this. And again, here's the other thing. I'm not a religious person. I'M definitely a spiritual person, but I'm not a religious person. So I can't quote chapter and verse or anything of that nature. So I don't even try. Right. So the one thing that I do know is that the churches, especially from the Catholic Church, no offense against, towards Catholics or anything like that, but I do know that it's part of what is said to these people. Because I have a friend whose sibling committed suicide and they were told that they wouldn't go to heaven. They didn't even want to have the service at a Catholic church because of that, the cause of death being suicide. And the thing that I found out through this was that suicide is not your showstopper from ascension. And because if it were, then I wouldn't be here again. And even before that, there was something that was quite remarkable in the previous life, in what I was told through the person, through Heather, who is an angel, intuitive and channels Archangel Michael amongst others, was that it was Jesus who was telling, through Michael, to tell me, through Heather. This was to show you that that's not the way it is and that that doesn't prevent you from getting into heaven. There's going to be highs, there's going to be lows, and you can keep going. Yeah. And you have another chance and you have another opportunity to learn that lesson. And that's kind of where I was hoping. You're good. Because as I understand it, it's like suicide isn't like a punishment. You don't necessarily get punished, but once you do head over to the other side, you're like, oh, wait, I gotta do it again now. It's like, you walked out on the test. You're still gonna have to take the test. I fucked up. I gotta go back. Right. But I do appreciate, appreciate your reasoning because the way that you said it was like that my contract, meaning your soul contract. Correct. Was to go a certain direction. And you realize that at this moment, your higher self in that moment realized, oh, there's no. This is not gonna get there. So let's just. Let's just clean slate. Let's start again. Yep. Reset button. Yeah, reset. Yeah. Which I know that anyone who's had, like, a loss like that. It sounds flippant for us to be talking about it like this, but I hope that if anybody is listening and hears these words and can understand, like, it's not a punishment. We get to choose our entrance and our exit. Yes. And somehow just knowing that I have more say and that my soul knows better than I do, it Feels amazing. It feels so much better than thinking. I'm just. There's consolation in knowing that there is cons. Yes, exactly. And I have family members who have exited that way. And recently, last. Last year, I had a. I had someone I knew do that, and I immediately was like, come on, man. Really? Yeah. I was like, you're gonna. Come on, really? Because, you know, he left behind a whole family, and it's like, yeah, I. I can't begin to be on the level or understand the kind of pain you must be going through in order to think that that is your only option. And I completely hold space for that. But I do look at it differently from my. Like, if it happens in my life and I know somebody, I'm just like, really, man? Okay. I feel like that is just how I am now with death in general. I do not view it as an ending. I do not view it necessarily as a. Any kind of. A little bit of a change, but not a complete disconnect. Like, when my grandma died, immediately in my head, I was like, well, I can talk to her more now, right? I'm so bad on the phone. I don't call people. And I know it's funny, but she was just. She is that kind of person. So I know that she's. She's probably laughing at me when I say that, but it's true. Like, I just view it differently now, fully knowing that it. You know, if anything happened to my family, this, in my house, I would freak out. I know that, and it's a natural. But. But I also. I also have such a piece about that kind of thing now that I think that that's why I can talk about it. Plus, I do past lives, and I know this isn't the last time. My co host in the podcast is always like, well, you can always just do it in your next life. And I'm like, okay. But still, like, we don't want. Don't make it that easy. Right? Yeah. It's not a video game. I mean, yeah, so there's. There's a balance, right? There's like a. There's a. There's a nice line that you want to walk with, like, being okay and having peace with it and then also enjoying every moment that you have here while you're here. That, I think is a nice. It's a nice place to be. 100% agree with that. We just got off topic again. We were talking about past lives. Well, I mean, part of it, though. I mean, but here's the thing. With all of this, the subject matter, I can talk about this. This could be a 24 hour podcast. You know, it could be 24 7. Because once you start these conversations, I think the fascinating thing about it is, and it's also part of the spiritual awakening process where you're seeking and questioning, questioning. And the more answers you receive brings more questions. And it is so true even in this conversation, because we're not talking about, oh, what time's dinner? We're talking about things that have so many different facets to it that each one of those facets can go miles and miles. When you're talking about the universe, the conversations are as infinite as these. That's what I was going to say. They're limitless. Limitless. And that. And, and that is so true. Which is why I guess I don't tire of these types of conversations. Because, you know, you mentioned at the very beginning, kids are sponges. Even though I may be an old soul, I am still so curious. Yeah. Not about necessarily my life and my perspective as it relates to these things, as I am more about yours. And then that just leads more thought provoking questions and well, what about this? Oh, that's interesting. But if this happens, then this. What about this? You know, it just, that's just how my mind works, especially after having an awakening. But I think even more using this medium where I get to meet so many incredible people that are so interesting and I always find them to be far more interesting than I am. Which is why I want to hear what you have to say. You know, my perspective is I go, eh, whatever, but yours, let's, let's talk about it, you know, so I, I really do enjoy this and I'm fortunate to be able to be in the, the position to do these things. And I'm, I'm very thankful. So everybody out there, thank you, thank you for listening. Liking subscribing all of those things, downloading these shows because it gives me an opportunity to meet more and more people like Lindsay. And that's, that's a fantastic thing. What I, I'd like to do. And I know, damn it, we again, it's run out of time, but I'd like to go to the musical questions if we can. Is that, is that cool with you? Absolutely. And I'm sorry for the abrupt change or change in direction music. Yeah, you know, usually I'd like to have a better segue into that. There's no. How do you segue from jumping off a building in 1930 to like, what's your Favorite secret pleasure song. Yeah, that's right. You can't. What's your guilty pleasure song? Yeah, but. But if you jump by, you know, from Van Halen. Sorry, guys. If you, if you. If you have a few minutes after we do the music questions, I have a really crazy past life regression story. I would love to. Let's, let's. Anybody wants to know it? It's very weird. Okay, so it's musical question time. This is the part of the show where I talk about music being the tide that binds everyone together. And I believe that everyone has a soundtrack that accompanies their life if they just take a moment to think about it. So we're going to jump right on into this. What was the first song you fell in love with from the radio? Well, the first song I can remember, like, singing and bopping to in the backseat of the car was Blame it on the Rain by Milli Vanilli. Milli Vanilli, Yeah. I sang that song more than they ever did because they never even sang it, so. Those lip synchers. Yeah. When I found that out, I was. I was still a kid because it wasn't that long until people realized it, but I was still a kid. But I was very. I was like. You know what's funny, though? There are so many performers that do that now. It's almost. Well, they. But they. But they don't lip sync to someone else's voice. No, that's true. If I remember. Yes, yes, they would. They'll, like, do. Yeah. Anyway, it was like the first. First thing I'd ever heard of. Like, they got. How could they get away with that? And why are they famous? Like, I was asking all kinds of questions like, what are they? They looked apart. That's true. Yeah. So, yeah, that's probably the first one. I still like it, but, you know, there's a little bit of a sticky part, too. A little. Little twist on there. Yeah. Did your family have a song that everyone would belt out on road trips when you're growing up or vacations? No, no, because my family. My parents divorced when I was really young and they were miserable for the most part, so. So no belting in the car. But I do remember my. My dad was. I mean, I remember my dad would always, like, on the weekends, he would blast Alice Cooper or like Pink Floyd or Jim Crow. Croce. Is it crochet? Yeah, Croce. Yeah. Holy shit. What a. What a mix. Yeah. Or Jimmy Buffett is another. Oh, yeah. He would just blast and clean dirt on the weekends. And my mom was a Crystal Gale lady. Crystal Gale? Barbra Streisand. Yeah. Yeah. But they were never together, so I. I don't know. We never really did road trips either. But if we were in the car, we would probably be listening to, like, my dad's music, which is. Oh, that's cool. Classic rock. Yeah, I love that. Which is now, like, antique rock. Because rock that I grew up with is now classic rock. So I don't even know what they're calling my dad's rock anyway. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Garage sale rock. Vintage rock. Vintage. Hey, if it's old, it's vintage, right? I'm vintage. So what was your favorite song you and your friends would belt out in your senior year of high school? Oh, my gosh. Anything by, like, Nelly, who's a rapper. Eminem. I grew up in Michigan, so it's definitely Eminem at the time. Yeah, I'd probably say or NSync, because that's a big. That's a big one. Oh, yeah. Still I'm still an insane girl Still Bye, bye, bye. I will, yes, I will I will forever be an insane girl Can I go back to the previous question? Because this is a really great way for me to, I guess, showcase how different it can be. So my family, the one I created with my children and my husband, we do belt out songs in the car. Excellent. If I may. And it's always Hamilton. It's always, always the Hamilton soundtrack. It's our favorite thing to listen to when we're on any kind of long road trip. And if it ends, we just restart it and do it again. Oh, my goodness. That's so cool. Hamilton. Yeah, definitely. So, yeah, my mom was like that, too. Yeah. Just my parents didn't. But you better believe I do with my kids. You know what? I'm a firm believer in that. Because music in the vibration that comes from it, and there's fun and there's smiles and, you know, then you laugh and. Yeah, it's. It's just time and it's. They don't have to be. They're. No. Stuck in an iPad or something. Exactly. Together, so. Exactly. I love that. No, that's. That's wonderful. And thank you for. For doing that, because I would typically add when somebody says no, oh, it could be now, or it could be with your friends when you're in college or something like that. You went on a road trip on spring break. But no, I appreciate that. I'm gonna just add it anyway. That's right. No, no, that's Come on in. So did your musical tastes change after high school and when you were in college? Yes. Yeah. So, like, I remember a very specific change. So again, in high school, it was like rap and it was like pop. And I, you know, the rock at the time was like Limp Bizkit or like Corn with a K or Marilyn Manson. It's just not my vibe, really. So I kind of skipped all that. And then after I was more a pop girl. And then after I got into college, I noticed myself listening to like, Maroon 5, the first album, which is the best one. Maroon 5. Jason Mraz, like singer, songwriter, James Morrison, James Bay, any James. And then now, like in my late. I'm 40, but I'm going to still say late 30s era. And I find myself listening to. Especially if I'm in my office and I want to get like, in the spirit, spiritual vibes. It's so funny because this is the music I used to make. I used to like, make fun of. And you'd see commercials for it and you'd be like, oh, it's such old people music. But now I love to listen to like Enya and like Celtic women. Get out of town. I really do. It's. I do. And it's not really a guilty pleasure because I. I just really like it. But it's just funny, the contrast of like, what I also will like. Like, I'll listen to Mariah Carey, Janet Jackson, you know, all of the. That's a sharp left turn. It is. And then I'll just jam out to. To Caledonia by Celtic Woman. Yeah, well, you know what? There's something about that that's ethereal and it just like floats on a breeze. Their voices and how that echoing or that. It's interesting to me because I think of some of those songs, like Scotland, when you. They used to communicate through yelling or. Or something like that from mountaintop down. And it'd be like that echo and you'd have to wait and then you get the response coming back. And so that's what it reminds me of with. With that music. It's. It really does. Sends it out and comes back. It transports me to like, what I think are my. My soul yearns for my past lives in like, Celtic Britain, like before Rome invaded. That kind of Britain. Wow. That's where I come from. The druids. Exactly. No, you're not. You're not kidding. Exactly. The druids, I believe. Yep. I was a druid. I spoke to the trees and the tree spoke back. And I still try. There's nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with the little tree wisdom, in my opinion. No. No. So the Positive Juices song. Is there a song that gets your positive juices flowing? Is it the Enya type of. Or is it more upbeat? I'm going to interpret positive as like, I'm going to take on the world today. That kind of. It gets me pumped up. And that is probably Buddha by Enya. It's a very like. But. But it's because I know the story of Buddha that makes me like. What is it called? It gets me fired up for like, nothing's gonna stand in my way. Because she didn't let anything stand in her way. No, I love that. No, that's. That's a. That's a great, great way to frame that. What about a Guilty Pleasure song? I don't know. I don't know about Guilty Pleasure because. Or one that you go, yeah, this one's just for me. I don't want anybody else to hear it from my playlist. I'm trying to think of a song that, like, if somebody came in, I would change it or like pretend like I was listening to something else. Oh, how did that get on there? No, no, because now that I have kids, I'm like, you know who you need to listen to? Hanson. You know who you need to listen to? Hanson. Oh my God. Eminem. I got it all. Not really the. I mean, yes, NSync, obviously, but there's nothing I really would like that I. That I wouldn't want everyone to know. Is a good song. It's a good song. You should hear it. And I'll just make them listen. Hanson. Yeah, I do. They were great. I do. They're still around. They're doing like. I think they're on tour. They were on tour recently. I saw that. It's funny that you, you mentioned that. I saw. I get music periodicals and I think they're on a reunion tour or something right now. Like, I don't know if it's a 20 year reunion tour type of thing. Yeah, everybody's doing reunions. That's cool though. But yeah, I don't really know. I really, really can't think of one. But I will, I will email you. The listeners won't know, probably because this will. That's okay. Or whatever. But I, I do want to know for myself if there is one. So you'll. You'll know if I, I know. I just. If there's anything. Because I brag about my music, even if it's stupid. I'm like, no, you just. You just should like it. No, listen to it. You're gonna like it. No, listen to. It's good. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe that's. I don't know how that sounds, but I don't. I don't think I do. I don't know. Do people have guilty pleasure songs? Yeah, I do. What? I've got a couple of them. I. You know, you have to. Okay, I've got two. And it's. One of them is kind of like you're in sync. And it's the Backstreet Boys. Everybody, everybody. Oh, my gosh. You're a Backstreet. Girly. Oh, no. Girly. Oh, thank you. Yeah, I'll take that. I give it as I deserve that. I promise. Yeah. And Taylor Swift, Shake It Off. I love that song for some reason, and I think why I love it is I remember seeing there was a show that had stars lip syncing, and the Rock did. He did Shake it off, and he was dancing around. And first of all, I love that show. I know that show, what you're talking about. You know what I mean? Which one? I'm talking. I forget the name of it, but. Lip Battle. Oh, was that. Okay. Lip Syn. Is it hosted by LL Cool J? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I love that show. It was awesome seeing him do that because he. He was just like, I'm going to do this female vocal song, and I don't give a. You know, and he was just. He was dancing like nobody was watching, even though there were a lot of people watching. I love that. I don't give a. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna be me. And that's just. That's the vibe in 2025 and 2026 for me. I don't care. Well, you know what? It's. It's mine, too. Moving forward over the past few years, I'm just gonna be me. If you don't. If you don't dig it, that's cool. Well, and it's gonna hurt my feelings when I feel the most disconnected, when I feel like my life is just not going wrong. But, you know, I mean, like, there's a D. There's a D sync of what I want and what I'm living. And it's usually when I'm trying to fit into so many different boxes that just don't fit. And including when I started my business, I learned a very clinical way. Clinical. You wear the white coat, you wear the name tag. You keep yourself out of the room, and it's all about the clinical client. And you are stoic and you ask questions and you be respectful and you be professional. And I was like, how am I ever going to get any business this way? Like, this feels wrong to me. And the second that I started, and it works for some people, it absolutely does. But for me, I was like, I don't know about this. So I started just being more, I don't know, authentic me. Yeah. I don't even know what that means. I would crack jokes. I would be silly. I would, you know, do what I wanted. Like, start. Started doing more spiritual hypnotherapy and pulling cards and sessions for clients and doing. No, that's wonderful. And I found things exploding, so, like, exploding and expanding. And so the second you stop trying to fit into boxes and stop caring is usually when everything starts to bloom, it clicks. Yeah, it's great. Yeah. So I'm going to ask the last question. And yes, please do email me your list because then I'll have everything. Sometimes there are songs that you hear that ring so true that they can stop you in your tracks. In. The song's lyrics sound like they were written specifically for you or by you. What's that song? Okay, there is a song. I just can't remember the name to it. I can't remember what it's called. Well, sing it. I can't, because it was. Okay, here's the situation. It was a couple years ago, and somebody was like, you need to listen to this song. And I turned, I pressed play, and it got me to the point where I was. This is. This is vulnerable right now. What I'm about to admit. I found myself in the fetal position on the floor, bawling my eyes out at this song. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my God. It's happening in my brain. I was like, it's happening. I'm feeling things. And it's. Whatever needs to happen is coming out right now. Like, I knew I was processing some stuff that had needed to be processed for a long time, and it took that song. And I wish I could remember the name of it, but I do have a close runner up of a song that I listen to a lot right before. I'm gonna send you the name once I find that song, too. And that one, please can you can send to your listeners, because I think a lot of people probably need that. Also, Please don't expect to be on the floor. But that's just what happened to me. That's just what happened to me. We're gonna hold you to that. It wasn't in a fetal position. I didn't feel anything. You know, it's just certain songs. But the second runner up, I think, would probably be Breakaway by Kelly Clarkson. Right before I moved. What an amazing voice. There was a time in my life where within a space of six months, I had had a spiritual awakening. I had moved to California by myself and quit everything I thought I knew and just started over. And I was 20 years old. And that song was the thing that kept me, like, knowing that it was the right decision. The feeling in that song, Breakaway, is like, I want to experience life. I. I don't. I want to get out of this. I think she said, like, small town or whatever, which. I was growing up in a small town, and now I'm back in the same small town. And I appreciate it 100 times more than I did when I was 20, I'll tell you that much. But I think it took me leaving to experience and find out who I am and to do all the things that I wanted to do and then, you know, have my kids and realize how great it was to be here and move them back here, only probably to have them say the same thing and get out. But I think because they were born in a big city, they might appreciate a small city better. But anyway, yeah, that song really got me through and allowed me to be optimistic and to be hopeful and to really embrace the journey that I was on. Because otherwise, I think I would have been really scared. Well, you know, and that's the thing about music, and that's why it's such an important thing. Because, well, think about it. People listen to music. Some people. Some people listen to music in meditation. Some people listen to music to go to sleep. Some people for a variety of reasons. Right. That's why I feel that music belongs. Period. It belongs. And without it, what would think about what life would be without music? Okay, well, it's just about time to cue the music for today's episode, but don't forget to, like, comment and subscribe to the Drop the Needle podcast to stay up to date on our latest episodes. I would also like to. To take a moment to thank everyone again for tuning in today, and I hope you enjoyed this episode of the Drop the Needle podcast. I would also like to thank our very special guest, Lindsay Robinson for joining us today. Lindsay, how can people get in touch with you to schedule sessions? Well, you can find me on Instagram or TikTok or I have a website, but I'm currently transitioning, so maybe that's not the best link to do, I would say. But I do have like a link tree, like a. Like a beacons page I can send you so that they can apply to be a client and get in touch with the podcast. I have a podcast called High Vibe in it. I have a membership, an app even. It's its own app called Align youn Mind. You can look it up on iOS and download it or do the mobile browser if you have an Android. And yeah, whether it's working with me personally, personally or getting the app and accessing my work that way, or just finding me on social media and saying hi, I look forward to connecting with you in whatever way, whatever way I can. Okay, so then please send me your. Your link tree. Okay. So I can put that in the show notes. I will do. It's got everything, pretty much everything you'll need in there. Fantastic. I invite you all to head on over to the show notes where there's to be a link to the playlist from today's episode as well as the link tree to get in touch with Lindsay there so you can book a session. All right, my drop the needle posse. Like Billy Joel says, from the highs to the lows to the end of the show, this is the end of our show. Until next time, this is Jim Alstom wishing you infinite health and happiness and the perfect playlist for your life. Thank you again for being the best part of us. Catch you next time.