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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to another episode of the baseball America fantasy podcasts is your host Jeff Ponce alongside me as always is my co-host up there in the great white north aka Canada some case you didn't know the great white north is that's doing white doing how's it going man happy new year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the first time we've bought it since the holidays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's happy new year indeed Yeah, it's been a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think since we bought it so I'm looking forward to getting back to it

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[SPEAKER_00]: It a lot of turkey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm still recovering from that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Santa was good to you, you got some nice presence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd say so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a, there's like a Ken Burns documentary in baseball and I got like the accompanying like coffee table book.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really nice actually.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's looking through that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You also got another present doing as a jays fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okamoto.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Segway man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hines with the jays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They remain busy, but we're finally at a point where Murakami and Okamoto have all signed with a respective teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Takahashi, who initially was considered a potential free agent, does not sign his posting window passes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's returning to Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't need to discuss him even though he had reports on him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk a little bit about more economy in my inocomoto from a fantasy lens and I think we can sort of tie an FYPD which is up on baseball America.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Same was plug going check that out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk more about the FYPD list next week, but I want you scoundrels to have to go out there and subscribe to baseball America and read it in order to know what we're talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to give you a week to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the meantime, let's talk a little bit about more economy, my and our commoto.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe focus a little bit more on the 2026 value, because a lot of these guys are available, depending on how your league handles, the international free agent signings from Asia, they should be in a lot of FYPDs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that they're in my 30 team FYPD.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're a great fit for a team on a come up, I'll say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're a good fit for a competitive team, probably not a great fit for a rebuilding team, particularly Akamoto, who's 29 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But with more Kami and Amai and Akamoto, let's go one by one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How are you viewing these guys for next year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do feel as if the pushback of more Kami has been a little more harsh than,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it needs to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there are absolutely contact issues.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that he's not gonna ever be a high batting average guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He does have on base ability.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got tons of bad speed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got tons of raw power.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's hit for power.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's hit for power against Major League pitching before in the WBC.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, yeah, it might be a two 10 to 20 hitter, two 30 hitter might be the ceiling, but he could walk 12% of the time, and I know the projections, as you know, are really high in the power, and the underlying data kind of backs that that this is 70 to 80, sort of power.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, talking about,

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[SPEAKER_01]: where you're viewing more economy for next season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know look at a BC data and that sort of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there maybe some value here now as the market maybe gone to too much of an extreme?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's exactly what's happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the, the, he was super hot coming into like the offseason when it was like we were already post on that staff and then he posted and then the value kind of dropped because everyone's like all the strikeout rates way too high.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like he's,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't do well against velocity or whatever those narratives were any kind of became less of a sexy pick and then now that, you know, the bats come out and oopsies come out and they are projecting 30 home run plus and like 335 340 on base percentage like 120 to be our sea class like it's like, oh, maybe we over corrected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And those strikeout concerns the contact concerns are a bit overblown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it is a pretty good opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I've been doing DCs pretty much since they opened up after the world series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Murakami was going like at the 20th round and then he started going like a 14th round and then it kind of like started sinking back down again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so now I think it's going to like come back up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like if he's a 30-home or a guy, he's he's max monthly, basically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then, you know, he's going to be taken a lot earlier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's also the youngest of the three, so from a die to see point of view, especially in on base percentage league, he's probably arguably one of the better picks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think, and I know you agree that Tatsuya Emi is better, but I don't know if you're going to go to Okamoto if you're going to go to Emi,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk a little bit about my now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ketsuya, my undersized right hand or only stands about five foot 11.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, an undersized starting pitcher but he does have a pretty significant track record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In Japan has handled innings the last few years in particular, but historically, you know, as well, over the last, we see three years, 163,

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[SPEAKER_01]: and two-thirds innings in 2025, 173 at a third in 2024, 158 in 2023, missed some time in 2022, but was 158.163.1 the year before that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's some track record here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still only 27 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This will be his age 28 season as he does turn 28 May.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's a picture and, you know, I feel like those guys don't even get good until like 25, 26.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what's your Paul scheme?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very rare.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lots of swinging miss.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a quality fastball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fastball didn't miss as many bats in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think some of that is the approach to the hit or some of it was where he was thrown in the fastball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's gonna maybe miss a few more bats here by locating that pitch up in the zone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very flat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, get some ride and we'll see how the seam difference and that sort of messes with the shape of his pitches, but he's got this reverse slider like tray of savage that's very interesting as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and and a and a and a pretty good splitter, you know, and above average to potentially plus splitter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So nothing that really moves a ton arm side besides the fat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, a glove side at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a curve ball who makes it every so often.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've heard there's two different change-ups, but I didn't really see that so much on tape And I didn't see him in the data.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see that's that stands to be proven correct or not I do like this though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there are maybe 150 good innings with high strike out rates and good enough ratios That it makes him a safe number one pick that I think can plug in right away

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I think his value like arc has been like the opposite of Murakami.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think no one really knew I'm saying no one really knew that like he was less of a high profile guy than Murakami and then as the data was kind of filter in and like oh he does have this like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Weird fastball that's flat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was kind of like Emanaga and all he's kind of I like his attitude and then he started creeping up and creeping up and like he's got like a fastball like Joe Ryan and okay This is like another Yamamoto type of guy and he was going like in the 10th round in DCs and then now after he signed with the Astros, which is a good team to sign with I think

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like people seem to think that he didn't sign for as much money and so our people are major league teams kind of luke warm on what they think he actually is and so now he's kind of sinking so I think we're over correcting in the wrong way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even Aga was, you know, we all thought he was going to be successful, but like he kind of overperformed, like with his like ERA, like three or whatever it was in his debut, like I think he outperformed people's expectations and I feel and my is going to do the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think he's got a high floor, he's young, I think he knows how to pitch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, the Astros are a good team, all kind of all that stuff is kind of lining up for him to be like, I think he's going to exceed the projections like like I said, uh, Jordan just came out with oopsie today and he hasn't met a 4.4 ERA, I was talking to him earlier too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, I can't argue with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that comes from hard numbers and hard data and history, but I just kind of feel like the numbers are a bit low for EMI.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I still am, I'm, would take in with confidence at number one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Same here as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think there's some stuff with him that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, maybe take some time to adjust, but there could also be this sort of thing where he can attack hitters differently here and that arsenal plays a little bit better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He also took a huge step forward in terms of command to so I think even looking at him in the picture that he was in 2024 or 2024 or 2023 or earlier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough to say that that's the same guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you got to take a little bit more stock and in that step forward last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the last one that we're going to bring up here is Kasuma Akamoto first base third, based min signed with the blue jays, you know, probably fits somewhere in the middle of that order maybe five or six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a really good line up though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, we'll see how it all shakes out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think somebody's going to hit for average could drive in some RB eyes and I do think maybe there's not 30 home run upside, but it's probably more like 20.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 18 to like 25, I think is a good number, but with a lot of counting stats and a lot of hits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, the bat and oopsie have him at 25 and 27 homerands, so they're looking a little bit more power that they have the batting average at like 230 or steamers at 250.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think what you were saying about him, my where he really took step forward in the command, I think that's that's what's happening with and that's what you should be doing with the bat and do oopsies like they're taking the historical performance and waiting them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, the most recent one being weighted higher, but like, Oklahoma, though, Annie, my kind of took steps forward last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, Oklahoma, though, hit 327, and previously it was like 28275.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, if you believe there was a step forward, if you believe that, you know, there's a real change, then, you know, maybe the 250 to 40 batting average that the projection you're saying for Oklahoma is is, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: is too low.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I personally think that's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to hit like 26270 and I do think 20 plus home runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The blusher I think is interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It totally depends where he hits in the lineup, totally depends if he's going to be the regular third baseman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were some, there's some talk about him being like the utility guy, and of course like Kyle Tucker's not signed yet, but Bashetta's not signed yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know what's going to happen with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, if Bashet comes and then so does Oklahoma, it'll become third base and.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Clement becomes sort of the utility guy or is Clement become blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, who knows a lot of moving parts if Tucker signed as barge removed a third base and so that I split to the automotive so I think there is some uncertainty there, but I think, you know, he's a professional hitter as they say, I think he's going to be, you know, a hit and hit from power guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I do again, I admit this is kind of the the story of the thing I think he's going to outperform the the projections here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I kind of wonder is Akamoto potentially the best of the three this year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could see it like I really think the batting average like I was really shocked by the 233 batting average that I saw with oopsie Because I thought it was going to come out like 265 to 70.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was a bit shocked by that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I've taken a bit of a pause just to see like maybe I'm over correcting, but I think, you know, I like, I was looking at a Davenport translations as well and he's pretty good with the coming over from Asia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm pretty confident that Oklahoma is gonna be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like the J spent quite a lot of money like four years and whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's gonna flare, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's a T4 guy, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a T4 guy, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the one multiple gold gloves a couple years ago, well, like eyes a turtle of like he is like a pretty good third baseman Yeah, he's a much even better first base than he's one of the better defensive first baseman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're probably watch Yeah, and one of the reasons that they played him at first base in the WBC is because they can't play more economy at first because he's bad enough there And they just want him handling his few balls as possible, pause

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, yeah, I mean like it's it's just kind of one of those scenarios.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's move on from that right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a big trade that went down doing this is interesting in my opinion from a fantasy perspective.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ever cabaret goes to the cubs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh and Casey and a few other for a couple of other prospects head to the marlins Casey is the big selling point here though, the one that we really want to discuss.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can get into ever cabaret another point in time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This opens up some opportunities for Casey to potentially play every day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's something that the Cubs really couldn't offer even as currently constituted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a chance to Suzuki and just are going to DH, and then it's like where does Ballistero's play?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does he kind of move around?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he back in triple A?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as a Casey that's playing every day, big question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This trade kind of solves that form a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Still thinks Suzuki every day and right field for a hundred something games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little scary,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a cubs pitcher so I don't have to worry about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not ever prepared.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy about Casey going to a place where you could potentially get every day run, hit the middle of the order, and they're kind of putting together a nice little power, power alley in the middle of that lineup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when you look at, let's say, let's say they go left, right, left, stowers, all star last year, big power guy, nice break out, Augustin Ramirez, one of your favorites right

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[SPEAKER_01]: Casey, like that's three guys with like 70 plus raw and doesn't matter how big that park plays, those are guys that can hit bombs out of any park anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of a smart play and they got some run produces around them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying that's a playoff team, but they could win more games than people expect, especially if Casey is what we think he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So talk about how you sort of view that move for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, it's a negative move in terms of park, but a huge positive in terms of playing time, which is the end of the day is what matters doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, and you didn't even mention like auto Lopez who we like and see where your Edwards were both kind of like three war players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like there's the power with the guys you mentioned, and then there's like these table setters, reasonable defense, at least auto Lopez, pretty good defenseman, a defenseman, defensively for the Marlon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, they have a chance to to surprise for sure, and you know, their pitching's always good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, Casey, the big thing was, where's he going to play in Chicago?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now I think it

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, like if you look at what Casey did in AAA, like Stachcast and all that, like he's not that far off of what Roman Anthony did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Roman Anthony was in his age 21 season, but oh, in case he was in his age 22 season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So both very young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Casey had 22 homeruns.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anthony only had 10 only had 10, but in like more than 50% of the playing time that that Casey had meeting like on a per plate appearance spaces.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Casey had more homeruns.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The 90th percentile acts of loss use.

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[SPEAKER_00]: very good for both 110 for Roman Anthony, 108 for Casey, which is extremely good, especially for someone young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Casey had a better barrel rate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Casey had a basically identical contact and so on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Contact rates are like, they're like, he's a power gap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was really if he gets the playing time, you're gonna see 20 plus homeruns, 25 homeruns is what Robo Scot has.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is as his peak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's a great move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a great move for Casey, Casey owners in Dynasty are re kind of rejoicing because now there's a clear path to playing time and that was really the only thing that holding them back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's really good and I think it'll be interesting to see what it does in Miami.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I really like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm interested to see how that all shakes out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's say a quick break.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We come back, we're gonna talk about,

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[SPEAKER_01]: are top 200 picture rankings that is what this podcast is about after all kind of very little bit there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to dive into more the top of the list and kind of discuss some rankings and why we back in a moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, and we are back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Dylan, we're talking about our rankings for the top 200 pictures.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was sweet, really.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As it was our last position

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[SPEAKER_01]: Will ahead of the curve, I like that, got our dynasty rankings out, broke out all the position at rankings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now we have to just update some of these rankings based on FYPD, and then probably some common trades, moves, et cetera, that we're gonna see over the next couple of days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A question that we got a lot on social media was why I show my autonomy at one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Simply put, Dylan, we do not rank show Halo Tani.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Separately, as a hitter in the picture, we should rank him as one player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He qualifies as a starter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is the highest rank player with the starting pitching designation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Therefore, he is one, we are not saying that he is the best pitcher in baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Though he is one of the better pictures in baseball when he is on and throw in six plus nays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Dylan, anything you wanted to add there on the O'Connie thing, I just figured we needed to address the elephant in the room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, yeah, it's exactly like he said, like anyone below him on that list, Terkscubal Paul schemes, Terkscubal, we would trade any of them for Otani who's ranked higher, even though, you know, maybe he's not a better pitcher, Otani than those guys, he's a better dynasty, higher ranked dynasty asset than those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what that means.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, we had this conversation and these comments before too on like players that we have,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, listed at third base or catcher and like they may not be at those positions in the future, but as a dynasty asset to weighing all that we have them ranked higher than the ones lower on that list, even though they may not be in that position following years hope that's clear, I probably made a more confusing, but Otoni's better than school was basically what we're saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just straight away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's move on to the next one here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought this was interesting because we were looking at the rankings, Otani, Skobal Scains, Crochet, Yama Moto.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just watched an unbelievable performance by Yama Moto, of course, in the playoffs this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've got a great season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been very good since he's come over, still very young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he in the same tier as these guys?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he like the last guy or is he the beginning of a new tier?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I feel like he's the beginning of a new tier, but I could potentially talk myself in a dynasty context and to being like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: There might be a little more tread on the tires there, with the Dodgers, et cetera.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's in a lower tier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As you know, I like to always compare dynasty with redraft, because I think a lot of that leaks over a lot of people who play dynasty play redraft right now it's skiing school and crochet our first round picks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yamamoto is basically the next picture that's taken, but he's like a second rounder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think just from redraft, there's a clear tier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People are like mixing and matching that those top ones sometimes you sometimes take in skin someone sometimes sometimes sometimes take in scuba, but no one's taking Yamamoto like no one's taking Yamamoto in that first round or ahead of schemes of them so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that's redraft dynasty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, schemes is younger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Crochet has been more dominant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think people are worried about what Yamamoto did to, um, in the playoffs, like to see like, really pitched, um, a lot on short rast it, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, like it was not dangerous, but it was like, uh, questionable, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: hygiene.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think people would not be surprised if he was injured for, you know, a month or two this season, just because he was overworked in quotes last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think also just think how dominant he was and how he just like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: almost single-handedly one of the world's series for the Dodgers who were inches away from losing to the chase.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why I'm recounting that trauma.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think Yamamoto, although he was so excellent and really put himself on the map and was really, you know, put himself in the hearts of many, many baseball fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's definitely a tier below, even though he's still, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: With some of his abilities, just in terms of he's got velocity, give really spent them all, move the ball, a bunch of different directions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He throws a ton of strikes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a team that he's probably not going to throw like 200 innings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wouldn't be totally shocking, though, if you threw 180 for a bunch of years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was kind of their go-to guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just from a health perspective in that rotation, he's kind of the guy with the healthiest track record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's kind of like, all right, it's him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, we'll mix and match these A and starters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I think he will probably have the most innings of those Dodgers guys, but the Dodgers six man rotation probably, they're fine leaving snow off the team for half a season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gloss now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I still think he's going to get his innings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's why like I could maybe see him creeping up there and taking another step forward, figure something out in off season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not as worried about some of those innings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just a lot of these guys like to throw like throw a lot and

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, not everybody reacts the same way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So kind of interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I find him to be fascinating, heading into this year for redraft as well, as to whether he's gonna be overrated or maybe that there's a little more ceiling there that we're not bacon in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause pictures do continue to get better kind of up and even after the age of 30 at times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he still has got his view all in all that sort of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just got in same feel and feel for spin, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, all right, let's move on to the next topic here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where does this, I guess, would be y'all, Yamamoto, Gilbert Brown, Green, Christopher Sanchez, does that tier end of Christopher Sanchez or do you think it ends at Joe Ryan?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had some questions on Joe Ryan at 10, some people push back on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big Joe Ryan fan, you are as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Others said Sanchez should be even higher than that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Talk to me a little bit through that tier maybe and specifically, you know, where Joe Ryan maybe fits in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was shocked at how well Joe Ryan did this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't realize he had done so well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was the lowest YRA of his career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the XIRA is three and a half hit the most war.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Most innings, one of the higher strikeout rates, like he was excellent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's done it basically for four years too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he had a 2023 he had a blip on the ERA, but all the kind of the indicators, the underlying indicators, the peripherals were kind of right in line with what he's always done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's talk that Minnesota was going to trade him maybe they're not going to anymore, but at the time we were making a list there was a lot of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a lot of talk, a lot of smoke about him being moved and it would probably be to a contender just because he's so good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Christopher Sanchez, I mean, I love Christopher Sanchez as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had an incredible season, top three, and so young voting, I believe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He already had like two and a half, but the track record isn't really there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I could be sounding stupid in a year when he does it again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just, I think Joe Ryan is actually kind of underrated as I was, we were making the list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just like, wow, Joe Ryan is actually quite good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in terms of redraft going back to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Christopher Sanchez is being taken way early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of recency bias.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's sometimes being taken ahead of you on a moto.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm more comfortable having you on a moto is my ace, my SP1, and redraft than Christopher Sanchez, and Joe Ryan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, you can do a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you can do a lot worse than having those guys as your SP1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I feel way more confident with Joe Ryan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Ben Bryan, who even though Bryan, who has been excellent for two straight years in place for a good team and a good park, I just feel Joe Ryan is the kind of a safer pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As to these, it sounds to talk about a picture as being safe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and do you consider him to be like the back end of that tier?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he the beginning of like tier three?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's right on the cost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But these tiers though, it was kind of blurr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'd have about the back of tier two, but if someone said he's the first of tier three, I would not have any argument against that at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's move on to the next big elephant in the room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The aggressive ranking of Yuri Perez at 11, triusavage at 12.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People asked me this and then I went back

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he kind of combined his time and it's maybe a full season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you look at his age of how young he is still.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, we are used to scratch the surface of this yet, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's been pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's in a good park improving team as we've mentioned as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like Yuri Perez.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't disagree with this ranking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm more than happy to trade my crissail shares and a dynasty for your appearance, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless like, and if I'm competing in crissail is my ace, I'm not really competing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, like, I kind of feel like, yeah, I make that trade 100 times out of 100.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I assume you agree with me there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, he's 13 years younger, whatever it is, and say, at least he's heading into his age 23 season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's over his career, which is, you know, just a shade under 200 innings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has a 3.7 ERA, 10.3 caper 9, and 22 years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, throws 98.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, this is the first product you would have served this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually, it's actually, I think, maybe even more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't how old sales 37, isn't he?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 36 and 37.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like 16 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think it was already a prospect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when Yuri was finally like moving into underpants, you know, like it's not a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that one, that one, that one, that one did make the laugh when I heard the pushback.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I understand that it's like, in a vacuum, maybe you

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[SPEAKER_01]: sailing and the gromm are actually in fun and no one McLean, who I think I might take to all McLean over those guys, but I lean, I lean the younger on my dynasty pitching staffs as well because that's when the most tread is still on the tire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I understand that old guys are in how to pitch

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[SPEAKER_01]: They also break and then you want the second half of the guys who didn't break and learned how to pitch better, you know, you savage to me is like this just works it's weird it worked against great lineups we know he's got big big old stones are going the mound and would challenge good hitters and attack them that's what we want that that that that that

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, I understand people think it's like overranging the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We thought he was really good before that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was just kind of confirmation of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do I think he's going to be in all time great the way he pitched in the playoffs?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but I think it could be a really good fantasy number three or number four over the next couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and eventually a send to like a number one, he's still so young, you know, we haven't gotten to that point where it and it wouldn't shock me if he does turn out to be a lead like I think you got a gamble on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the same with McLean.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the same with Gary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's not like just a savage did not look out of place in the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he dominated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he he was in the highest of pressure situations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like in must win games or they're eliminated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going up against the best teams in the league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with everything riding on him and he's dominating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he was striking out like that Dodger game, I don't remember which game it was, but like it was nine strikeouts, 10 strikeouts, 11 strikeouts, I don't even remember it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just like they're just flailing at the slider, flailing at the splitter, they're being fooled by the fastball, et cetera.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just he was fine in the playoffs and he did well like he thrived.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I know, you know, you can't take the short sample, you can't take the reasons you buy, et cetera, he doesn't have a track record, but like he performed at an extremely high level in the the most pressure situations imaginable with no experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I, I think that does count something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So give me a picture here after 20 could be your sleeper could be your target maybe that you're really going after heavily in all formats this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it I don't want to give it away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to give it away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can start with mine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Emmett Emmett Sheen, I understand the whole Dodgers thing that innings won't be crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's something you can kind of play into the discounted price and an in a trade potentially.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to try to get them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think in in redrafts, even dynasty startups, I don't think he's viewed maybe even as high as we rank him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was excellent last year in his return and I get it was 73 innings, but there's a sub three ERA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a 30% strikeout rate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The walk rate was

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[SPEAKER_01]: seven, eight percent somewhere in that range.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know that the slider is a plus pitch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The fastball is as well, you know, it's flattened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he developed a change up in some additional sites through this some variation that repertoire, coming off Tommy John, like I feel like he's ready to roll.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm all in on Xi'an next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I wrote him up that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The other one that I'll throw out there too,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it's kind of the opposite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not necessarily asleep or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Kenzie Gorskett discounted a little bit because of the last couple of months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he was really good at the beginning of the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had the goofiest front office.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He possibly could have had and player development and pitching development and mentality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the whole doesn't matter how hard you throw a ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was just, it wasn't progressive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've brought in really good people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if he gets traded or not, if so, I think there's a chance he gets traded to a place that has better pitching development in a more winning organization.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where's the chance that he's here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they don't trade him until the deadline, which I think is honestly the smartest thing to Boney can do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's probably gonna have more value even then at that point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, where everyone's scared to take on money or try to extended anybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe some more clarity at that point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think teams will be a little bit more in desperation mode to get that world series, especially if there is a workshop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think McKenzie Gore is getting underrated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy's still really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still only 26 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are a lot of years left here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a good lefty that throws hard that has good secondaries that has enough command and missed the ton of bats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a bad couple of months and we'll figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think there was some health stuff too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He, but even the health thing, he's had like 150 plus innings for three years now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he goes out there and he makes a start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I feel like he's getting underrated and I haven't been a couple of dynasty leagues and I keep on getting like, by low offers and I'm like, I'm really not selling this guy low right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, especially in deeper leagues.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that I give you enough time to find somebody to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it was gonna be Goar, but no, no, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Goar life, come on, help me out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's a guy I've been getting in a lot of DCs because he's kind of in that pocket and just like he's going to get the strikeouts he's going to get, you know, nine and a half to ten Capre nine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to have the things like he said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he tailed off in the second half and like, that's not really what's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's talk of him being traded.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a very actively mentioned in the trade market.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure he's going to go to a contender.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's just going to be better for his wins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like I've been getting gore everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been also trying to get him in my dynasties and like people won't trade him because they're holding out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like hopefully the Yankees trade form or you know something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a good sleeper in terms of will he do better than he's being kind of ranked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he will.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you get him from the people who actually have Gore?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm having hard time doing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do like Gore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do like that call.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to go with Dylan C. This is not a

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dylan sees always gets to strike out the the the maddening thing with Dylan sees is sort of the inconsistency.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just feel that going to the jays with their, you know, focus on run prevention defense is going to help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in 2023 was a 450 ADRA whereas in between it was like a 3.47 so he's up and down by like over a run difference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In those two years we had the four and a half year right his babbip allowed it was 320 and 330 and in the good year was 263 so I think

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not that much of a leap to think that the J's defense will help the Bavut stay lower.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he's more of a strike out kind of football pitcher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe it's not going to be that much of an impact.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The J's defense, but I just feel having a good defense behind you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to pitch with more confidence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, kind of those soft things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, he got 14 wins, a couple times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He gets over 200 strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, is he going to do that for the JZS, I believe he will.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he's going to be on the sort of upper level of his outcomes in that range.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's always been showing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it's a world series caliber team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, he's going to get the wins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I guess, Dylan sees, but that kind of feels like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know what doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, encourage people to go on to baseball America.

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