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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, welcome back to another baseball America prospect deep dive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Will we dive into all 13 top 30s?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Today we're doing the San Francisco Giants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have Josh Norris with me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to dive into the Giants system a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Josh, a much improved giant system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I'm putting the car before the horse here, but Josh, welcome to the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How are you, man?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How are you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not too bad not too bad busy with podcasts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be recording a whole stack of these a week and putting them onto the people so expect three to four a week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's let's dive into this giant system a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that this is one that during the handbook process.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we're all constantly in communication about, you know, the top 30s that we're writing, especially as we get into that crunch in November and in early December.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was a system that you had a fairly positive outlook on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you know Josh with the systems, he doesn't always have the most positive outlook on his prospects and his players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this is how I think I have an honest outlook.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You definitely don't boost up your systems.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not someone that falls in love.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that said, it is a really talented system, multiple top 100 prospects up at the top.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First guy we're going to talk about, Bryce Eldridge, how difficult was the decision to rank Aldridge out one versus some of the other names here that are in the mix?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was not particularly difficult, you know, he's got, he's still fairly young, he's gotten to the big league, he's produced it every level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are some warts, I mean, it's not, it's not going to be the purest hitter that you see necessarily, but the power is real and he should be, he has the potential to be a cornerstone bat and I really, you know, I think the combination of talents tools proximity, all really

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, as I said on another podcast this week, there were a couple guys who said Joe's hoarding dollars would be their number one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a highly different player than Bryce Selder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's the best, shortstop defender in the system that has been stocked with a lot of really good shortstop defender.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's not, there's a lot of premium up the middle guys in the system right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's got offensive skills as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can really run, he can hit line drives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's some power in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The standard caveat supply for a guy who's really only done DSL and domestic instructs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But everybody you see is a really fall to love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there was,

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[SPEAKER_01]: an outside chance, especially if I had gotten that feedback earlier in the process that he would have been using consideration for number one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I figured I would bring him up because he's, you know, one of the more exciting prospects, you know, just that came into the top one under this year, we're always sort of looking for, you know, there's lower level guys, DSL guys that show true potential star upside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can seem to be somebody that that fits into that category quite a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll save some of the conversation about Joe Swar because I think in one of the upcoming questions, he's probably going to be somebody that could be discussed in depth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk a little bit more about the system as a whole.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of spoiled this one in the top of the show, but we look at this system year over year and what the system looked like and coming out of 2024, going into 2025 versus what it looks like now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Night and day in terms of better or were there some signs that the system was getting better as you were heading into 25 last year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's not just night and day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's short of stay of the year versus longest day of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I look back on the book last year and you cringe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's not, it wasn't good, period.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And right now, I think it's kind of fighting with the Dodgers as the best system of the five I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's been a while since I've had a system where like, I had more than 30 players for 30 spots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't struggling to find somebody at the back end for this, you know, Joe Skorgan's all of this is one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He came in January 15th last year, but that meant he wasn't in the book because, you know, the book comes gets preyed around Christmas Eve.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't have him technically, but there's been a- and this is probably going to cannibalize one of your other questions, but there's been a reveal uptick from the lower level production.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know who Kainer Martinez was this time last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know who he was until I saw him in the summer, and then, you know, I go to see him in a flight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Holy cow, this guy's really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And our, our henna skyyama had kind of popped a little bit in the summer last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The least laboratory was, is a whole new player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've added a bunch of guys from trades.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, that really does help.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, all those ingredients, the, the guys who started taking really big developmental leaps plus guys who were added from other systems,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I was going to say, you know, you talked a little bit about it, but how, how did the turn around happen so quickly?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, and it's interesting because it's not necessarily a whole host of top end guys or guys that they acquired via trade, which is typically how we'll see a system really upgrade your viewer like I cover the cardinals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's very, very consistent with how the cardinal system got much better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: JJ Weatherhold certainly helps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But all of the trades and acquiring some good prospects is what really sort of backfilled that system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This system, it's strength doesn't necessarily seem to be that it's top heavy, but really that there is a great deal of depth of those players that are sort of outside that, say 125 range to like 300.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have a lot of those guys, no?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they have a lot of really good players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a lot of good stuff at the top.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to talk about, obviously, elders are going to be on the top 100, which we're putting together right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Joe Swar is going to be on the top 100.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can make an argument for a Johnny level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bo David's going to be on the top 100.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that kind of, you know, bring it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bo David's a lot of these guys from last year who were interesting or anonymous have gotten better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bo David's in 2024 fall league was not good, period.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he came out and with gangbusters in Eugene and, you know, that started to get response from scouts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, hey, this is a potential five to a player, like, that's really interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he held his own Richmond, it wasn't, you know, the same production as in Eugene.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he didn't, you know, hit the fan as it were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Johnny level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: was the number one player in the Arizona Complex League.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, see Joe's form with the number one player in the Dominican Summer League.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then were other players on their, you know, Kayao was fully healthy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had some health struggles of the year prior.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Delitori got better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He got the end more velocity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Canner Martina's, you know, found some stuff in a bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are all those things add up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when you do add guys by a tray, they be from the Yankees, from the Metz, a couple others in there that I'm blanking on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But all those guys helped to replenish this system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now they've got ammo up and down the system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just at the top or at the bottom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's players like Blade Tidwell still counts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can help the Big League club this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Drew Gilbert doesn't count anymore under our previous rules.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he might have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to help the big league club, you know, they've got depth up and down so they can not only help the big league club this year and coming years, they've got ammo for trades if need be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's how they turned it around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and let me ask too, because it seems like there were a lot of guys in this system that took steps forward and, you know, some of that frankly, it's, you know, keep it simple, stupid like sometimes just the players, right guys takes them forward, they put in the work in the off season and listen to their coaches, et cetera, have there been any sort of player development shifts within the organization.

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[SPEAKER_00]: was higher in September of 2024.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, there wasn't a ton of runway from the end of the season to the beginning of the next season for him to kind of implement things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But were there any shifts in approach?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what were you sort of hearing internally?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then maybe from players externally, that sort of thing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'll even say a message that I got in a different podcast, because I don't really know, like, that's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's nothing I heard that there was anything really changed up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they did change pitching coordinators.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Justin Lear was very talented and did a good job with those guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Clay Rapada was an extension in you wrote about Justin with the Blue Jays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Clay Rapada helped do the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Dave just got in better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Guys have gotten stronger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Guys have gotten bigger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They taken the necessarily necessary developmental steps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's one secret thing that they changed, just they have better players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really not rocket problems here, I don't think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's move on to the next one here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We kind of, once again, sort of foreshadowed this one with some of the comments on Joe Swar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But who is your guest to be in the mix for number one next year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Joe Swar obviously seems like an obvious one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is there still a chance that Bryce Eldridge is prospect eligible this time next year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That seems like he probably, if he was, wouldn't be in consideration for one at that point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he is still fairly young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So talk me out, what you think for next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still fairly young and the tricky part is, they've got their third basement, and they've got a first basement in Devers, so where does he play?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that would be the only way outside of like injuries or whatever that he's prospect eligible next year, but let's assume that doesn't happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, if he's out of the picture, I would assume Joe Swar would be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's going to be, I think, at least very hot on my personal top 150, I think once I get down to doing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he's got this skill set to be a superstar, period point blank.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they've got some other really good players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, you know, out, if Bob Davidson takes another leap like he did last year, maybe he serves it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he's, again, that's the potential for five tools.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just shut down defendants at a field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got power.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't swing a misident atrocious rate, even at double a. Johnny level just hits.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've done a lot of really fun stuff, but my my fictional money would be on the Joe's Market Solid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, and there's one other guy, just based on the upcoming international market, which is just a few days away, but Luis Hernandez is the number one player in the class, highest bonus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also when Ben in our FYPD fantasy list ranked out guys based on talent rankings he was still number one and kind of in the mix with that top 10 that included some of the Japanese professionals and guys that went the top 10 the draft last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know potentially another kind of slam dump top 100 prospect if he is what we think he is in the DSL this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I've had some people I talk to kind of call their shot and say that he's going to be the number one prospect in the DSL this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's bold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's 1500 somewhat players in that league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then 52 teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you know, he's a number one signing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what it looks like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're very excited about him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to rank in the top 10 somewhere once he's officially official.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think they've got another one that's just going to boost their ore ranking once he's you could set it officially official, but it's a potential five to a player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, giants fans in my chat this year were like, where would he rank if he was eligible to my answer as always?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have enough trouble dealing with the players who are eligible to even think about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now that we're kind of, you know, nine, well, by the end of the podcast, we've got four days away from it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, he's got a rank pretty high.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't give you a number on it just yet, but this is a really, really good add to their system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think Jansk can't should be really excited about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's, let's move on to the next question here and maybe this ties into, you know, guys like, Charlie Level and Joe Swar and Hernandez, what is this organization good at developing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now they're pretty good at developing premium position players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've got center field talent, they've got pitchers too, and they've got short stops like the depth chart for short stops on the little on our handbook is pretty deep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you've got just broken dollars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got Johnny level who might move at some point, but he's there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got Lorenzo Miela.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got a guy like Gavin Kiela, who's more of probably a second baseman, but he's gonna get some short stop reps. You've got all sorts of really interesting premium position players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they've got pitching too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got you all the low level guys, but I skipped over with Jacob Breznan, who they got from the guardians a couple of years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, low way and his first test, but this past year, he came out, changed a few things out of the, uh, you'll improve just change up and add some more to his fast ball and with the Cal league pitcher of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, he's their top rated pitching prospect right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get a lot of their pictures or closer than the lower levels save for a guy like Tidwell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but they're, they're good at putting those kind of guys on the big leagues.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think you can't dispute that at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've had a lot of success.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Getting these guys to the big leagues, developing players, I think you look at a guy like Bo David's in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It comes from not a ton of pedigree, and they've been able to develop him into a very strong outfielder in addition to the bat in the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: about power starting to play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We saw that a little bit early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In his pro-day view, we used in terms of there was some upside with a bat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember sitting there in AFL, you know, watching him at Stalt River and having some scouts question, you know, the quality of the defense that he was more than the left fielder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it seems like he proved that this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like do you have any insights on sort of the Davidson developments or even like the scouting side of

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[SPEAKER_00]: identify this guy because that is, that's a true scouting fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are not, you know, they're, they're a nice, you know, undrafted free agents.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's very few guys that turn into a top 100 prospect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If any, I don't know if I can remember one of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It might be the only one and you're going to get more in the coming year because the draft is shorter and the undrafted pool is going to be bigger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's just an example of thorough scouting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you

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[SPEAKER_01]: the people in North Carolina did a really good job finding him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He also played in some summer college ball around here too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you got more chances after Queen's college was Queen's college was done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I might be wrong on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He actually had small school was done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they've done a good job with smaller schools in the past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: and just being thorough and knowing your area and having boots on the ground, which, you know, not all the teams do these days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was, I was trying to check what, uh, what David's in the school was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was actually called well tech.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was called, yes, called well tech.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was called, I could play with him with Dylan Lewis of the Yankees, which is almost the same story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: it's a different angle, different school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will talk about Lewis at a later date.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For those of us watching, for those of you watching on video, this is the end of our video podcast if you're listening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: On audio, we got another 20 plus minutes to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We can stick around for those that are watching the video.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for tuning in and we're going to have more of these throughout the week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, and for our podcast listeners, this is the second half of the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get even deeper into this giant's top 30 and talk a little bit about this depth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You touched on this a little bit at the sort of midway point of the first half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are a lot of talented pitchers in particular in the lower levels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's something that none of us were expecting coming in at 2025.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there were a handful of these guys that broke out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about Martinez, we talked about Cayama, but also like Louie De La Torre, and then Carlos De La Rosa who they had acquired from the Yankees, all sort of interesting arms and this system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How many of these guys are starters do you think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think you can get at least two out of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty certain Kayaam Akayaama.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Martinez is a starter in the long run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially that change that comes forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was really impressed with him in the complex league because the first start I saw, I don't know who he was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a banger slider with mid 90s fastball and the change of was at least present.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I saw him the next start of the change of his gotten much better at even more aggressive with it in just like a week's time awareness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: OK, this is really impressive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so he's got the physicality and the stuff and apparently takes developmental cues really well to be a starter in the long run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Kiyama it kind of depends on how that body works out right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He needs to eat a lot more, you know, food and put more strength on because he obviously wore down toward the end of the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, he's just not the biggest fella and was a well, come with your high workload.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Della Torrey might, we'll see how he does this year on the, I'll click his kind of war on him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's not anything about stuff, but it seems 22 in the complex lead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a little more advanced.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see, and then he did really well in low egg.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'd like to see what he looks like when he's against similarly aged competition.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Della Rosa obviously wasn't on anyone's radar enter in the year, because he was in a different organization and hadn't signed, but he's lefty, he's got good fastball,

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[SPEAKER_01]: a good breaking ball in flashes and I think it changes pretty good too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of stuff there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's an interesting frame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, you know, your prototypical starter frame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's left handed and throws hard and it's coachable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's some stuff there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I would, if I'm going to put my money on one guy being a starter one term, it's marching us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why I ranked him already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I figured that made some sense and some of those guys obviously, you know, smaller as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So always a question whether those guys are gonna stick as starters or not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we start to go into some of these names outside of the top 10 in this system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who are some of your favorites or guys that, you know, scouts were enamored with, who are the names to know outside the top 10?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know Carlos Gutierrez comes to mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I ranked in like 13 or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just, the thing is he's not stay healthy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't plan, he won't say 60 games last year, something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He knows his own, he makes a comment act when the pitch is he should.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I noted in the book that only three of his hits last year came on pitches outside the strike zone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he knows when to digripet and rip it, and he plays a no-case center field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he might defer to a guy like Bogabison or what have you, but he can certainly hack it out there and want to embarrass you and plus feel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's billet, but giants tell you sometimes, right or left field, and that particular park might be more valuable sometimes, instead of fields coming away that dimensions were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's an interesting player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you stay healthy, he's going to make a pretty big impact.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember, we just talked about my ACL trip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were talking about him on the backfield.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, hey, he's sneaking up on the industry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I got my rabbit ears going, OK. OK, people were talking about him on the backfields.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good sign that people like him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I ranked him where I did, hoping he would stay healthy and prove me right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you mentioned, I think, Park's Harbor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He got to came over with Carlos de la Rosa, a couple other guys from the Yankees and the Devoltrade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: it's the kind of player that we as an industry sometimes ignore he just hits he hit with fun civilly he hit with Tampa he hit with Eugene he hit in the fall league and I don't know if you know this but hitting is good especially if you're not the kind of player who you might he's not gonna you know

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[SPEAKER_01]: produce a whole lot of value with the glove or on the basis, but he can he can hit the ball hard and often and sometimes it's as easy as that and he's proved it in multiple stops.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that might be a smart, you know, UDFA, well, UDFA signed by the Yankees and trade pick up by the giants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, interesting names there on the back end of the system too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think you should just go through you sort of get a good feel for how much depth there is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are there any guys that maybe came out of the draft last year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of putting you on the spot here that you could see breaking out in a big way, whether that's me, Ola, or Maldonato, any of those haters, maybe some of the pictures in the mix as well, like a warly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I liked, I liked me, Ola, I think there's a good floor there because you can really pick it at shore stop and it wasn't, um, you know, it's, it's not a knockout bat, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: players who can play defense and hit even a little do have big linkerereers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can stick in the big leagues for a while if you can catch the ball and throw the ball and save some runs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned Warley, I saw one instructional league game that shared the very last instructional league game for the entire valley and was him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a really interesting player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It gets a lower 90s fast ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It needs to get some more home fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But his breaking ball is really interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a spike grip slider.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's nasty, like he made a lot of good hitters look pretty bad, but a lot of hitters look pretty bad in that game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you just kind of store them in the back of your mind, okay?

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a project, obviously, in high school, right, ander, but there's tools there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now it's up to the Giants development team, Clay Repata, and friends to get the most out of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you see that one pitch and you say, okay, there's something there that not a lot of guys have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The fun one to watch on the slowmo camera to see, okay, it is a slider, but he's spiking it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see that very often.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is pretty interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Last one I'll throw to you here as we wrap up the show and maybe this is a little redundant, but who's your sleeper or sleepers in this system heading in in 2026?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, well, you know, you gave me, I talked about a lot of guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I've run through the entire 30.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'll give you Alberto La Roche just a guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or, you know, I can be too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alberto LaRose and Julian Barretto.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Both those guys popped a little bit in the DSL last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: LaRose was a second year in the DL sort of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you have a very small sample in the first year because it's some issues.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's got some stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll see how he performs really well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's some stuff to like there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like I said, they've done well with pitching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Barretto hit pretty well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got his nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no item to pluses on his car if I remember correctly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of 50s and 55 and 45s, and that could be an interesting player going for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like those are guys who will be one to monitor as they come to the Complex League and try to

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[SPEAKER_01]: continue to establish their dominance in the Phoenix Valley like they did last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So those are the guys that really kind of come to mind that we haven't talked about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like I said, it's a really good system and it's gotten a whole lot better from last year and I was really excited to write it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wasn't the single player I wrote up where I was like, this is a slog, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I don't know, I don't give this whole secret that there's some players that you write up and you go, okay,

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[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't really a prospect, but we have to get the 30 in some form of fashion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There wasn't any of those guys in this list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was really fun to write and expected to be fun to write next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me throw this back at you actually too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm kind of contradicting myself once again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But um, were there any guys sort of outside of the 30 that

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[SPEAKER_00]: in other systems that you write that would or ranks somewhere in the 20s or maybe even higher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you talked a little bit about the depth here, like who are some of those names if you have any?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you refrage that question?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of using what you're asking me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you said you had enough, enough names.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where they're guys in that 31 to 40 range that maybe would the fillies of the Yankee, some of these systems that you have that are more shallow, some of those guys that maybe would have ranked in that 20 to 30 range.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I could see like a guy like Maui Ojuna, maybe do in that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's obviously dealt with some injuries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're over the last few years, but he's gotten a little bit better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one that comes to mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to think about some other guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Quite frankly, I haven't written their 31s or 40 yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see, but that's the name you'll give you is Maui Ouna, just otherwise I'll be famping here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll say with, you know, some of the weaker systems that I have, I think that Ouna definitely would rank in the Astro system, you know, definitely would, he might rank in the teams in the Cub system, because that system really drops off a table and they've made a couple more trades from their depth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: doesn't help.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Jack showed is another guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think again, out of the out of the 30.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got the invisible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really not super.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, you know, not really lit it up, but he's interesting enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you're in the 31 through 40 guys like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the time we're done with this list, you're on me, Maldonado.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be pushed into the 31 through 40 because Hernandez is going to sign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tommy John Surgery, who, you know, upper 90s fastball needs to improve the shape a little bit for the Banger Slider and a fun loving attitude on the mound.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's an interesting guy who could be a reliever down the line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So those are the names that I think maybe people want to store a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thanks for tuning everybody for Jeff for Josh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This has been another edition of the baseball America Prospect podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for tuning in.