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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello and welcome back to another baseball america prospect podcast top 30 breakdown today I'm joined by my colleague Josh Norris, so Josh here in a you're in a similar position this year of ranking a world series winning Dodgers team Still a pretty loaded organization on top of that which you know, I think it's it's kind of that Breaking bad meme of like you can't keep getting away with this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how it sort of feels as a fan
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[SPEAKER_00]: of any of the other 29 teams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Josh, talk to me a little bit over view wise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How deep is this Dodger system?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this an organization where the struggle isn't finding 30 prospects, but cutting it down to 30?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's right riding that line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the way we've done it this year is a little different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think in past years, Roki Sasaki would still qualify.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a couple other guys who would still count.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't do the surface time thing, shout out Ethan Hula here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But so that took a little bit of depth away from the system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's still a fair amount of guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the difference between this year and last is there are a lot of guys who I wrote like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: injuries have kind of marred their seasons and it's kind of an incomplete raid on them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like a Joendry Vargas, for example, or guys like Kyle Hurt and River Ryan and Kellen Lindsay, who really, you know, played only a little bit if at all, and you kind of just rewrite the scouting report from the year prior and say, okay, that's what it looks like when he's healthy, and we'll see what happens next year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sometimes those reports are just a little less work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just kind of reformating what you've already written because literally nothing has changed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's something I can hope you don't know what it's going to look like coming out on the other end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, but, you know, you also helped to predict that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the jump into it here with the first question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, we always started number one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This year, you had, I would imagine if you candidates that you probably could have ranked one in the system all outfielders, but you went with Eduardo Quintero, player that you've been watching since he came stateside, maybe even earlier than that I can't remember if you did seem in the DSL or not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But give me your thoughts in Quintero and sort of how split was the camp among opposing scouts and those that you spoke with when working through the list and working through the reporting between him and some of the other outfielders that are ranked at the top here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think if you surveyed 10 different scouts, you might get 10 different orders, if that's possible, the math people check me out on that one, of those four different players.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there were votes for Hoesway, the Paula at number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were votes for, is that your hope at number one?
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were people early in the process who thought, Mike Serotum might be the best of them all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ultimately, I think I found Quintaro to be the most well-rounded player and the best bet to stick in center field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Rota might be neck and neck with him, but obviously he had the injury that he had, but I want to wait to see what he looks like when he comes back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're right, you know, I was part of it was being able to see Quintaro more than the other guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd hope to see it to Paula in the fallie, but that didn't come to pass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Same idea with Kendall George, not that he was in
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[SPEAKER_01]: contingent for number one, but I've been really, you know, I've really been struck by the put by Fintaro when I saw him in the complex league, has like got it's going to shoot up these rankings based on just, you know, the swing, the swing, the potential for growth in the swing, potential for growth in the body, the all around skill set.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't have like a 70 on the card like some of the other guys, but he's got a lot of 55 and he doesn't have any 40s either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think the
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[SPEAKER_01]: of Quintaro really led me to put him at number one and you know when people see the list getting a few texts like hey how did you rank him over him and why did you rank him over him all right no one's convicted you know I think these are all these are the right four guys at the top and uh this is my order
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[SPEAKER_00]: of that group that we're talking about here with Quintero de Pala, Mike Sarota, and Zair Hope, who do you think is just the best pure hitter of that group?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the Paula.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think that's that's his whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a big guy who can hit and hit for power and if he plays even fringe average defense, you're happy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there are a lot of people who kind of say, if he reaches, you know, hundreds percentile, 90 percentile seeding, you're talking about a guy like you were down Alvarez, there's a ways to go there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's kind of the idea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of contact, a lot of impact, maybe like a first basement down the line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, he got into a little bit more power, but based on the EVs and that sort of thing we've been seeing under the hood for a few years now with him, is there any concern that maybe he just doesn't have the ability to add the angles, be able to lift the ball consistently, or is it pretty universal that Scouts still think that there's 25 or more home runs in that bet?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the latter there, you know, people do think there's 25 30 home runs in that bet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's a matter of swinging at the right pitches and being a little more aggressive than he has been.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because you do see him draw a ton of walks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I imagine there's some balls that he can damage, not that walks are bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think he's letting some pitches pass that he could probably damage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he starts being more aggressive on those types of pitches, then you're going to
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[SPEAKER_01]: Chuck, of all the guys in that group, I did not expect he would be one of them that had 30 stolen bags like he did this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he had a 32 stolen bases this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you told me he had that, I would be very surprised considering his size and lack of speed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just those those good instincts those really.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's move on to the next one here, looking at the bigger picture, among the entire system, do you feel that the system is better than it was last year?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you feel like it's worse or sort of indifferent?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is a reasonable answer with the touchers organization.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's close to a little bit of different maybe maybe trending toward a little worse just because of the injuries that I talked about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't know what Lindsey's, you know, Kelli Lindsey ultimately looks like you don't know what Joanne Rodriguez's steps to put a take in this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jackson Ferris looks like he's a little bit of step back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, there are some other guys who really show good stuff, but not a whole heck of a lot of command.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's a lot of those kind of arms toward the back of the system and they need to take some steps forward before they're viable, you know, top 15 prospects in the system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then there, you know, we've got some wild cards from the draft, but we'll see how that was go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's, it's kind of a push this year in terms of last year and like, like I said too, like if we were still doing his last year, Rokey would still count.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how I'd rank him,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there were, there were three players from the Dodgers, most recent draft ranked, correct, was it West, root, lighter, and what did you say was the last one?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Davelin, the two Arkansas guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, I did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Davelin and then Vadoric as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Vadoric.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got the, yeah, I totally forgot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really, it's really fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and then Zach Root.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stronger draft class than the last years, and I guess two and lesser extent the year before though you weren't doing this chapter for the handbook.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you think those guys kind of compare and contrast?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they had a decent amount of picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think part of it was the reason that there are so many in there is just because I need its bots at the end, you know, again, they did trade a few amount of guys, they got guys back to it, I mean, I didn't expect to be ranking out on Sarah Winnowski back in there, but he's there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I went with some upside guys, I tend to look at what they paid them relative to slot and given that, like Aden West, it was an example there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: lighter is like the ultimate lottery ticket.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just use a stuff monster, but he hasn't been healthy in a while and I he's one of the favorites of our college writer Jacob Rudner
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, I don't put him in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Vadoric got best outfield arm in the system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, all right, if he's the best something in the system, I need to get out of fill at the back end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why not?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He might be, he might be in the mix for best athletes too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was one of the best testers among college players.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It might have been, he might have been one or two in terms of like how we ranked out in terms of athletic testing, jump testing, force plates, that sort of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's an interesting player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's, there's a lot of interesting players in here and there's, there's I don't think anybody wants to hear this that isn't really in Dodger blue, but there's a lot of room for upside in in the system here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So is room for growth in this system and I don't think there's going to be a whole heck of a lot of graduations outside of like an Alex Freeland just because there's not, I mean it would be surprised if any of the four outfielders got enough time to graduate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's, I think, mostly you're going to see what you see right now, still in the system outside a trade that can get summer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that, yeah, I think you're going to be a push in terms of the system next year, if everything stays intact, I guess river Ryan and Kyle Kirk graduate as well, depending on their health, but not a whole hell of a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it depends out, you know, quickly they come back, how healthy they are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess to a lesser extent, too, you know, how long they stick around just on a major league roster, which is something that's new for us, as you said this year, so they could even graduate that way, which.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Often helps us with guys that we don't be rushing graduated more or less.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, and we didn't, I don't think you wanted to rank rushing again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So good reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's move on to, this is probably an easy one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's your best guess for number one next year of all of the podcast that we probably asked this one on this is probably the easiest because once he falls off the table, it's going to be the same guy now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I disagree, I'm gonna go with him, but this is the hardest call, because it was the hardest call to rank him at number one to begin with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you told me one of those four guys comes out and goes gangbusters and jumps all the way up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if Mike Sarota continues the path he was on, then maybe he jumps the Paula and...
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[SPEAKER_01]: Quintaro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, the margin between Quintaro and DePolla and the rest of the group is not large.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you told me one of them came out and just was a super breakout player, then maybe he jumps it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to say Quintaro holds serve, but I'm going to say it with not a whole heck of a lot of confidence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was a difficult question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You kind of explained that a couple of times now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me ask it this way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are there any dark course candidates that are outside of that top four group?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's somebody outside the top 10 that you think could make a significant jump in our national guys, guys that maybe are coming from the complex into full season next year that a couple of weeks or whatever could yield that maybe making a big jump.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, internationally their group was a little light just because they spent all their pool money on Sasaki, um, so that group wasn't largest here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I ranked anybody from the DSL, uh, the 2025 Dodgers DSL this year, which is a.
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[SPEAKER_01]: know, departure from what they've been.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say if I'm going to stick with the outfielders, I think it would probably be dabble on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got one guy who I really trust saying, you know, this could be a 70 or 80 hit tool when it's all said and done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And based on what he'd seen in the complex leading things like that, he might be the best peer editor of the bunch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if that's the case, then he'll be number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that would be my, I guess, Dark Horse or Gray Horse or
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all the Dodgers need is another, you know, fledgling outfield prospect with exciting upside.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's move on to the last question here, the video portion of the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is this or good at developing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: This might be a long answer because there's probably a few things that you could say they're pretty good at developing, but what's the one sort of positional group that sticks in your mind most?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there is one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they've got good pieces,
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[SPEAKER_01]: They always have enough firepower to kind of fill their big lead roster if they don't develop homegrown stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, I got a question at mid-season this year as said, you know, if maybe in 27, the Dodgers outfield needs to Paula Hope Quintero and the answer is no, I can say without question, the answer is it's not gonna be all those three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna trade,
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[SPEAKER_01]: the one or two who believe are going to be or they believe are going to be the lesser of the bunch and get stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what I guess I'll round about answer would say they're good at trading, they're going to developing chips for trade and supplementing their big league roster that way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's some good arms that've come out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm blank, oh, Kasparius, Jack D'Rire, our good arms that have come out in recent years, we'll see what River Ryan and Kyle hurt look like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess you wanna count Kyle hurt, he was a trade piece, and so was River Ryan, but they've done the majority of the development there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, the outfielders are obviously leading the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see how those look at the big leagues, but those are the, that's what they're developing, they're best at developing right now, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think, you know, you look at just the depth of arms that they have and just pitching in general and, you know, guys will
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[SPEAKER_00]: frankly fit a variety of roles kind of in those early years that they come up and can you know push their way into the rotation like an amateurian.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they have to see if they have an abundance of pitching depth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not at the top of their rotation like it's, you know, she and is the best of the bunch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're looking at the 2029 lineup,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know how much development they did there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's homegrown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No shade there, but he was he got the contract he got for a reason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, like, snow obviously is not there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, show Aotani.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Rookie is not out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have glass now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's all trade pieces, but you've got she and you've got guys like landed knack, possibly a Jackson Ferris Bobby Miller.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's there's depth rotation pieces, but they haven't developed that that one in a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the best homegrown piece of their roster right now is Will Smith.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, that's a cornerstone catcher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not something to sneeze at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, and they've had
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[SPEAKER_00]: plenty of catching prospects over the years that were highly touted that frankly have an amounted to what Smith has.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they did a good job of internally evaluating that as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess, you know, among the position groups, is it outfielders?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it infielders?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, who sort of the best guy they have developed internally?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I'd say Michael Bush,
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[SPEAKER_00]: isn't developed by the Cubs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was developed by the Dodgers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is he the best current hitter among those guys kind of non will Smith category or is there something else?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say that's the one that jumps to mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I, what position would you put him out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say batters box, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He can hit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he'll hit, he'll hit, that's a great one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now it looks like they've got a steady supply of outbuilders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can be on the guys that we talked about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're still like a tuning in the mix.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's Kendall George and his 90 speed in the mix.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, there's, there's a lot of outfielders in this group and there's a few up the middle players as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like, yeah, it's short stops.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's left side of the infield.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of interesting arms with stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's too many better obscure stuff organizations.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, the, the top, the cream of their roster is free agents or trade guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not a bad thing to do with the rim still counts the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, and I think if you have the means to be able to do that and also spend it on nationally, spend in the draft, spend on the internal resources, you know, and that's a wide variety of things, but primarily among it player development and just having bigger staffs than a lot of the other teams, you know, it's a way that they're able to continually turn this crank of having tradable prospects that other teams desire.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, and they have a lot of depth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you don't win 18 in a World Series game without having some depth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, honestly, I think at the end of the day, it's what's allowed them to win multiple World Series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And to win a back-to-back World Series, it probably appointing time, or it's harder than it's ever been.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're, we didn't mention it, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the number two homegrown guy is Andy Pahase.
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[SPEAKER_01]: who, yeah, it's probably true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's saved the world series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Might have killed the, like, who he collided with in the process, but, you know, he's, he got the ring with that one catch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he's probably a great development story because he was more of a pure hitter considered a corner outfielder with not a ton of defensive value had a big injury remade his body kind of tweaked his swing a little bit I want to say remade his swing but tweaked the bat path a little bit to get a little bit more backspin and he's become a 30-year-old run bat that can play center field and.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's a, that's certainly a credit to the Dodgers player development when you think of the guy that we saw in AFL back in 2023 or whatever it wasn't 22 to the guy that he is today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and then I'm just looking at their 40 men roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was blanking on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: his name, but picking up a guy like will climb on the margins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, I mean, he had the game of his life just being a good enough scouting organization to go get that guy and to put him on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, watch as he did that, as he did what he did in that super game, it was a four innings of like six punch outs with shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Four shut outs, like six punch outs?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was incredible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of really good things about this organization, no doubt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: percent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll wrap up the video portion of this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for tuning in on YouTube for those that are listening on podcast format.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be right back with a whole rip-a-more questions to go through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But for the YouTube folks, thanks for tuning in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see you on the next one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, and for the podcast listeners, as I mentioned, we're going to keep on rolling here with Josh Norr's talking Dodgers prospect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's jump outside of the top 10 here, what's going to this 11 to 30.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about this a little bit in the first half of the show, but it's a system that's always stopped for the interesting prospects in that 11 to 30 range.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said this to you off air.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It also is always an area where there seem to be a couple of potential if not future top 100 prospects lurking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are there any guys like that this year that you could look forward and say, this could be a guy that jumps into the top 10.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And potentially is considered
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[SPEAKER_00]: are really interesting prospect, not just by us, but kind of universally throughout the industry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you'd love to look in the 11 to 15 range.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Christians as way to is a big up arrow guy needs to maybe get the breaking ball a little bit more consistent, have a more diversified attack plan than just North South, he's able to go east west a little bit, but their size, their projection, there's youth on his side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think these got some of the most refined arsenal of their young pitching prospects.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll also look at maybe Adam Sarwinowski to pick that next step.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was pretty gangbusters once he came over after the trade.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little pick up from the reds in that deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at my list as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sterlin Patik at number 30 was kind of a sneaky guy who might jump up a little bit this year, Aden West from the draft, big time upside guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's guys who are just injured a little bit this year, like Kellen Lindsay and Yawendri Vargas to see if they might make that,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Second chance at a second impression.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess this is the way I would look at it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A second chance at an on core from their previous years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you know, I think those are all good names and it's just a system that consistently could be, you know, like you said, they scout really well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: develop well when guys are in the system and there might even be guys from outside this top 30 that pop next year because it seems like we get a few of those over year as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This might be a little bit redundant from what we just asked, but who are some of your favorites or some of the scout favorites that you're getting in your reporting from outside of the top 10 in the system?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You might have in the name of non-redundancy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I might go to some guys who might make an
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, maybe in the bullpen again this year, you're being with everybody in the Dodgers fan to miss familiar with River Ryan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, that stuff sounds like it's more or less intact after a long layoff, and if you told me that he came in and was, uh, made an impact either in a multi-ending bullpen role, and maybe if that can start as well, I think starters role would be tough, given his lack of innings over the last couple of years, uh, wouldn't be surprising, Kyle hurt, same boat, um, Patrick Copen, who had some of the, the most, get the most track
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[SPEAKER_01]: But also some of the most walks in the organization, I think it might have been like you might have led the organization in both categories.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can find the stragg zone a little more often, you might be a guy who could be a weapon out of the bull pen as well, because that stuff is legitimate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then same idea with Jose Rodriguez, put him at the very back out thought he was going to go high in the rule five draft, size, stuff, funk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's a lot there who his knee has to heal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a knee injury toward the end of the season that kind of tanked his rule five stock and maybe kept him off the 40 man roster as it were.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're going to go with guys who are on the 40 man roster, Roman cop might be that that guy as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got some interesting stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So those are the guys I think could be impact this year, at least reach the big league this year, if not true impact.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and, you know, this is a team that despite having all of those stars, despite being so aggressive in the free agent market and on the trade market, they kind of like to bacon some rests for some of these guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they're always clear cut injuries.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's always opportunities for these guys to get up to the big leagues and maybe impress a little bit and find themselves in the mix once it comes to play off roster time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's your sleeper, your personal sleeper, your personal cheese ball in this system?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's the guy that Josh Norris would stump for?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I believe the articles are ready on the site and it's gonna be redundant as a way to, you know, for the reasons I already mentioned size, stuff, there's room to grow, projectability, a lot of good things that could coalesce one day into maybe a back to middle end of middle of the rotation guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's Josh Norse's sleeper for everybody that's out there, it's a good name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Last question that we'll do here,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which prospect do you believe will actually debut for the Dodgers that hasn't already debuted for the Dodgers in this system?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I asked that question because they trade a lot of prospects, frankly, and they often make the right decisions and right calls on those guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are there any prospects?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll say like position guys or starters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that you think will meet the Dodgers standard of, you know, at least being in everyday regular for that, which is a higher standard than every other team in the sport of baseball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say, I would, I think at least Quintaro and Sarota would get that chance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Looking down the list, guys, who haven't debuted yet,
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[SPEAKER_01]: That might be it in the near future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's a jury's out on so many of these other guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But those other two, like I said, with Sarota, you know, he was on a really fast track before that injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it'll be interesting to see what he looks like when he comes back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think those two give them the most, the two most well-rounded players in the outfield group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, the rest is are so far away that I'm not even going to hazard guests who would be Dodgers caliber just yet, but those are the two I've come to I know it's not an Einstein level answer, but it's what I'm going to go with right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Amongst you do you do five systems of four other systems besides the Dodgers you have the Dodgers you have the giants.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yankees.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Philly's Rangers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And among those systems, is this the best system that you cover and if not, who is and why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the giants is the best system I cover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's close.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think the giants have more guys who I think are going to be everyday regulars and they're deeper right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And part of that is a function that the giants just added a ton of guys at the deadline and the Dodgers dealt a few of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: was the biggest 180 certainly in my group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I look back at last year's list, and it, and last year's list came out before Joe Swar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is even a pre-Joe Swar era list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it wasn't good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just period point like, I remember we were thinking about doing the,
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[SPEAKER_01]: playing time qualification at the beginning of last year's list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, we can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to take three of my top 10 guys from me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And none of them was a particularly sexy top 10 guy, but I didn't have more guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think right now it's the Dodgers and the Giants maybe A and then B plus with the Giants being the top by a little bit just better depth right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was going to say that the Dodgers, if they're not one, seem to be the clear two among those groups, especially considering a few of them, that made quite a bit of trades over the years to acquire majorly talent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Dodgers seem to be the only ones that are still stocked and ready to make more of those trades and credit to them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Josh, any closing thoughts on this Dodger system before we wrap up the show?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I will say like, too, we talk about the team loading up, using its systems to load up,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The rumors today, if you follow a Twitter that the giants are being aggressive on a pair of second basements.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So by the time this list, I think this podcast drops, the system may have changed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then we'll see exactly who is valued.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're putting it out, we're putting it out in about 14 hours.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This isn't one of four making a trade in X 14 hours.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be pretty
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[SPEAKER_00]: at nine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, we're going to try to get it up quick for that reason because I know I was in a podcast is funny story on a podcast last night with somebody else on a fantasy podcast talking about JJ weather halt and they were like, where's he going to play?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I think we could have a no-one aeronato deal coming into the next couple of weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The podcast's supposed to post Friday and they're not just going to trade it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we have always enough to Josh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did one with a Yankees centric podcast last summer, and we were talking about a bunch of stuff, and I think the second we hung up devours got traded, it's like, oh, that wouldn't come up on a Yankees centric podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but anyway, uh, closing thoughts on the Dodgers system, it's still really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still a lot of good fun stuff at the top.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if guys get healthy and rebound a little bit, it could be even better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think that's the biggest difference is a little bit of the depth of sap thanks to trades and new qualifications.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there were just some of the bigger names from last year just didn't get a chance to do what what they have, the ability to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a, it's a, it's a strong B system for me right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just keeps on rolling with the Dodgers for all those that tuned in, whether on YouTube or on the podcast, obviously the podcast folks are still here in us for Josh for Jeff this has been another baseball America prospect podcast top 30 deep dive.
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