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Speaker 1: We're halfway through our over runners here. We've gone through the top nine sides so far, and we're going to go back through the bottom set nine sides now. A lot of contention, a lot of numbers, and we'll go through them, starting at Hawthorne right now.

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Speaker 2: Hawthorne up next? Fifteen point five?

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Speaker 3: Is there?

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Speaker 2: Over under?

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Speaker 1: They won fifteen games last year each year of the past two. Really they've gotten better. They made a semi final in a prelim final. Do they get better again? Cav and go past fifteen point five?

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Speaker 3: I have got them going over, yes, but I'm not as confident as I am with some of the others. So Hawthorne did lose five games by fourteen points less last season two, so as much as they won fifteen games, they could have easily won at least a couple more there. I do like the list. Their back lines rock solid, There's plenty of revenues to go forward. The midfield's a little bit of a question mark at the moment, especially with will Day, who's hurt his shoulder again over preseason now too. I think if he gets into their midfield plays a full year, that will make it look enormously better. As it did early last season with him in there, but without him it's a little bit a little bit playing lost James Warple out of there as well, so which hurts. So yeah, I'm a big Kelsha Deer fan. If he can get himself fit as well, and he'll add plenty up forward, he can, he can kick plenty of goals this year, so I think they should salute at the end of the day. But yeah, it's a bit of work today for him and mostly on getting will Day fit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, lots of riding on the fitness of will Day doesn't look good at the moment. Yeah, if he was if we were recording this week ago and he wasn't injured, I'd be locking in Hawthorne over. But at this stage I'll draw him back a little bit. I still think that. Yeah, as cav said, their backline is really solid, you know, all Australian Josh Battle and Tom Brass coming over as well. They've been fantastic additions. They probably played a little bit too tall in defense last year, so the push to get Josh Weddll up on the wing or into the midfield makes sense there. I think he'll be a really explosive addition there cold of McDonald seems to be taking to the midfield rotation like conduct to water, so there are potential replacements for a Day if he misses an extended period of time during the season. Yeah, I think warp leaving hurts. But their forward line seems to be pretty solid as well. It'll be interesting to see how they balance the four tools up forward and whether they do end up playing with Ned Reeves as well in the ruck along side Lloyd Meek. I think the Rock rules are built for a player like him, so yeah, I've got them going over. I think it's a bit more questionable now that we know that Day is injured, but we don't know for how long. If he misses an extended period of time during the season, which he has in the last couple of years, that line becomes a bit more questionable.

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Speaker 1: I won't let you go back and edit the video, so you're stuck on the over. I'm going over as well. I think Hawthorne in as a list perspective, might have the best top thirty of any team in the league, but their top five to seven might be one of the weakest, If that makes sense. Their superstars aren't at the same level as some others, but generally their depth is extraordinary. Some of the players that didn't get a game last year, we're outstanding. I think that just how some tally up wins during the regular season. They can cover any gap. As you said, they probably played two tall maybe at both ends last year and they were still managing to win most games. The midfield really runs usually pretty well. It's where they can be beaten. But I think I think they're good enough in there to win games. And they've won their last ten in a row down in Loncess and they just win every single time they play that. See can add bonus wins there each year. So I think they get to sixteen, and I think they get to sixteen reasonably comfortably and get better again as they seem to do every year.

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Speaker 2: Understand Mitchell.

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Speaker 1: Melbourne has a new coach, Stephen King, comes in with pretty deflated expectations. They're over under his eight point five. They won seven last year. I don't have high hopes for them, cav.

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Speaker 3: I don't know either, and I've got Melbourne to be a lock for going under this line. So yeah, Christian Petrarchy goes out. He finished second in the Best of Faris last year to Max Gorn who's still there, but Jack Fine, he's had some injury issues over preseason. Clayton Oliver was out the door as well, so it's going to be a whole new look bigfield. It's really Hartly Harvey Langford's midfield this season, but it's going to look a lot different. I think they've got some good young players that I like, but they're very raw overall. Brady Myichik could add plenty to that full line, but he's also missed a large choker preseason working his way back from that Toye injury foot injury, and that's a bit of a worry at this point with the age's at as well, So I think there's quite a few other teams that will jump past the Demons, and I've got him finishing bottom four at this point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got Melbourne under the line as well. I do think their biggest inclusion in the off season is Stephen King. I'm a huge fan of his work across the time and that he's been an assistant coach. I think he will work wonders with that midfield group especially, but also I think the game style last year was a bit stagnant. They just looked to bomb it long, kick the ball high. There wasn't any real emphasis with their ball movement under good.

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Speaker 2: And Brad Green was a fan of that game style either.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think so, so I think yeah, going with I think if they can be a bit more energetic, especially off the half back through the midfield and getting the ball in the forward line a bit quicker and a bit lower, that'll certainly help. Adding Brodye Marcheck as a clear number one target will probably help Van Ruyn, who seemed to struggle at times with his consistency up forward.

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Speaker 5: But then yeah, they're blooding the youngsters.

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Speaker 4: They're giving guys like Harvey Langford, Zavia Lindsay extended an opportunity through the midfield. It'll be good to see them rolling and you know, trying to build this list back up to what it was.

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Speaker 5: But I've got them going under as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's time for a hard reset for the Dason. That's what a new coach can mean. He can clear out of those older players and send them either to different roles or to the VFL. So guys like Stephen May who was told in the tree Pooden one the best team anymore. Tom McDonald, Jack Viney, those kind of players who have provided great service, they probably shouldn't be playing in their best positions anymore, which might actually make the team weak up, but it's better for the future. So I would be clearing out a lot of those players, sending them to different positions or sending them to the VFL and opening up time for youngsters. He's probably not going to help Melbourne on the scoreboard this year, but I think that's probably the right thing to do. And surely we've seen he's got a finger injury. Surely Max Gorney is doing an injury at some point in his life. He's just an absolute machine. But if he goes down for a while, Tom Campbell's really their backup ruck and they're going to be missing a lot of action if he's not there. So yeah, I think Melbourne goes under, and quite severely. I think they're headed for the bottom four. Like you think have North, Melbourne's next no strangers to the bottom four, the Ruse they're over under his seven point five. They won five last year, which was their best year since before we'd heard of COVID, which is a longer time ago. Than you think Forest. Surely they bounce up. Can they bounce up enough?

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Speaker 4: I've got them right on seven. So I thought the line was I thought the line was probably one win too high. I thought six and a half. It's a real question there. I think most of their wins will come in the first six weeks of the season. They've got a pretty soft draw to start the year. But yeah, just the way that the least of structure. They've drafted a lot of midfielders and they've just been trying to find the positions for them. They I don't know if their back line is really set to defend totals as it stands now, especially with Aiden Cole going down with an injury early in the preseason. He'll probably be back for the start of the season. But once again, it just shows that you know the concerning depth down back and up forward. It's about finding a partner for Nick Larkin. I think Cooper Trembarth, coming in late last year, kicked a couple of bags of three in his limited opportunity. I think he's right in line to take over from Jack Darling from as at number two key Ford, but you also got to blood the youngsters as well. So will continue to be a real focus for the Ruse. That midfield is pretty stacked, but it's about finding minutes for each of them. You know, plays like Fino Sullivan are going to be forced to play on the wing. Cobby Mcurche's been playing half back whether he gets a roll in the guts as well. So I've got them going under but only just definitely an improvement.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure when this club is going to turn the corner and come good because i just don't think it's going to do this year.

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Speaker 2: And I'll come on, cav give us some positivity and I think they've just got.

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Speaker 3: Too many holes in their list still to turn the corner. As I said, so they've only won eight games in the last two years combined. As you said, they haven't won this many games since since Ruche Aubast coaching in a long time ago. It feels like eternity go since they reached this line. So yeah, as much as I've got a few good young players, particularly through the midfield and off half back and all that, got a few good forwards as well, but I'm just not sure that they get there. It looks like a free kick this one to go the unders. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Since twenty twenty they've gone three wins for two, three, three and five. That's a university style three point three per year. They stink North Melbourne. They have for a very long time. And having said all that, I'm going the over Maybe we should stop recording now so nobody remembers this. But for some reason I do believe in North Melbourne. I think they have a very soft draw to start the year, so they'll pick up potentially four wins in their first six and then they're halfway to this over already, and surely they can do it from there. I think they should be shooting for a top ten. They should be looking for a wild card spot. Whether that will happen or not, I doubt it, but I think they will get the over here. I think there are a chance to be better than all this. Think they have to be. At some point. Somebody has to pick up a few wins in the lower half of the later I don't think it will be them, but don't hold me to that and make sure nobody remembers this, because I will deny that I ever said it. Port Adelaide is next, another team that had a bit pretty shambolic end to last year. They're over under his nine point five wins. Last year they won nine. New coach at Putodlaide. How's he going to go, cap, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I kept the faiths in port last year, but I'm off from now. So only nine wins, as you said, and they were probably lucky to get to that point. They had that the one gold season, the Gold Coast one where they did it for Kenny right at the end. But yeah, I mean they've got some star players. Zach Barter's kind of rosy, Jason Hall Francis, Mitch George Yardy, Mitch Georgia, Ardy's Miles Bergman's going to go into the midfield this year, who I reckon? He'll be really good in there and can have a real impact. But I think overall, yeah, there's the depth, isn't there at the moment. They've got a lot of young players around the outskirts of that, And yeah, I think new coach Josh car is going to have some challenges on the field and off the field as well, trying to keep Zach butters and show him that there's a path forward with this group.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the new coach with the addition of trying to fight for Zach Butter's signature, which will be a constant speculation point for the entire season, or at least until he resigns, as well as you know, trying to get a new system in new young players blood them as well. They don't actually have that many top end, top end talented youngsters between so of the ages of twenty and twenty two that would usually drive the club forward, a lot of them have been you know, mid season preseason pickups. They're pretty open and honest about the draft class this year that didn't want to get involved, So I think they'll be focusing sort of in the I think this is a free hit for Josh Carr, so I've got them going pretty confidently under the line that can be a lot for me. I think I'll right in the piece that there's no way that gets ten wins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the line here was at least two wins too high. I don't think they really get close to nine point five, and you can tell that the soft money is over.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they go him in close.

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Speaker 1: I think the FOD line outside of Georgia Ards is pretty pretty bad. Their back line is no good either, the midfield can be good, but then there's a lot of players running one way. Miles Bergman tries to stop that, but they don't really get the mix in there completely right. And I thought they were horrible in the second half of last year. So I'm locking in the under here. Ken Hinckley never went less than nine point five apart from his final season. I think that trend will probably continue. And the only things I'm really interested in Port Aulaid this year Zach Budder's signature and Albert, their new dog. Otherwise I don't really care about anything else. So port fans, you guys suck at the moment, so not really interested another team that is also stinky. We're in a bit of a bad run at the moment. Richmond four point five is there?

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Speaker 2: Over?

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Speaker 1: They surprised most by going over for this year with five. It was a lot more than most of us expected, particularly Chris Cavanaugh who said that they would not win a game for the entire season. So are you eating crow here and going over four point five?

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Speaker 3: I did say that. Now I've changed, so I'm going the overs. Yes, they did get to five wins last season, which surprised me, but it just showed that sometimes youth can do the job and pull off a few upsets, including against Carlton in round one which was a very memorable one. But yeah, I find it strange that the line's only four and a half based on the fact they won five last year and there's probably a febit and natural improvement to come. So all those guys that they drafted a couple of years ago as high picks as Sam Lawler excited to see what he can do this year, pushing into the midfield a bit more. They've got the third easiest draw for twenty twenty six, with double up games against Adelaide, Carleton, Melbourne, North Melbourne, Sint Kildare and West Coast. So I think a few of those opponents they could beat once or twice. And yeah, just developing young side, I think they can. I don't think they're going to go much over that mark, let me say that, but yeah, they could certainly get to five or six wins I think, and that would be a nice little step forward on their journey to yeah, developing this young group and getting up there in a couple of years time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got them five wins again, I do think it'll be a better five wins than last year, which doesn't really make sense, but I think the big losses won't be there as much. The one concern that I do have on the list is just the second year blues, which typically happens after player or players have a full AFL pre season. Those niggles can come into place. It is a very long year, so I'm a little bit worried about that, but I think that's the only thing that would really prevent them from going over this line of four and a half. The talent is enormous with that last year's draft crop, they added to it again this year. They had some nice players there, but yeah, really excited to see full seasons from Sam Lawler, Taj Hotton, John c Fall. They've got some really good youngsters. We didn't see Josh Smiley last year, who you are very big on. So yeah, there's plenty of excitement around Punt Road. I do think that they go over this line, but not by much. Five wins for me.

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Speaker 1: Under for me, I think they're a lot closer to the twenty four team that won two compared to the twenty twenty five team that won five, if that makes sense. I think they're going to struggle for wins, which is no surprise. I don't think any of us are expecting to win much more than five anyway. I think as a younger team, they're still going to be beaten up quite a bit. Even if they're a year older, they're still going to be smashed in a lot of games. And I think even if they win say three games next year, it might not be a worse season than twenty twenty five. I think they might show good signs, might be better to watch, but I just can't really see where they're going to win most of their games, apart from say West Coast, so I think I think they're a team that wins three or four. It goes pretty close to their over underbit. I think just sneaks under. They're going to battle again Richmond and that's part of their plan.

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Speaker 2: I think they'll be better for it.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll have a good year in terms of growth, but it might not show up on the ladder when we look at the end of season. Saint Kilda is possibly the most fascinating team in this over under and anybody looking at the season next year, they.

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Speaker 2: Won nine games last year.

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Speaker 1: They're over under his twelve point five they spent so much money that we couldn't keep count. Does that make them better than twelve point five wins Matthew for.

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Speaker 4: Us, I think it does make them better, not by much, but I think they'll ledge over and they'll be playing in a wild card this year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The additions Tom to coning A's the rock line whether they really needed it with roand Marshall there. I do think it is a bit of insurance for Max King, who can't seem to get healthy, being able to play Roan Marshall or Tom to Cooney forward in the absence of King if he doesn't get up, and then you also had in Jack Selvanni down back. I think throwing him into defense probably helps a little bit. I think Sam Flanders in the midfield is a big get as well. They do lose their reigning captain or former captain in Jack Steel, but I think that Flanders is probably an upgrade there in terms of a ball winning midfielder. And then just the natural progression and improvement of the young list. Nazaiah broke out. Absolutely we knew he was going to be a star, but he just took the game to another level. Whether he can go again to another level again will be interesting to see. But even if he maintains his performance from last year, he's absolutely in the conversation for a Brownly medal.

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Speaker 1: When I was at training last week, he had flames coming off the back of him.

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Speaker 2: He was that good.

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Speaker 5: So there you go. So what he's going to do?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, brownlow forty votes season this year, lock it in. No, I've got them going over, not by much, but yeah, I think they'll certainly be a better team than they were last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got going over to Lee. Ryan's the other recruit too that it might be pretty handy in the fourth line if he can get himself fit and get up and about as well. So get a bit more supply than he did at West Coast, that's for sure. So I think Max King is a big one for me. As you mentioned Matt, he kicked fifty two goals in his last full season in twenty twenty two. We've seen what his brother Ben's done at the Gold Coast in the last couple of years. Obviously, Max didn't play to the right knee issues that he hadn't last year, and they've lingered as well, which is unfortunate. But if he can have a good run at it and really spearhead that forward line, then the sides shouldn't have a problem going over. But that's a big year, isn't it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So in the last since starting the twenty nineteen they've gone nine, ten, eleven, thirteen, eleven and nine in their wins each year, they're always mediocre. I think the spending spree maybe bunt them up a tier from mediocre to okay. I think they probably win thirteen and sneaking. I think they're a wildcard team. They have wildcard written all over them. To me, they probably finished ninth or tenth and a bit like gws are battling it out in that first week of September. It's gonna be the first week of September, isn't it. Yeah, we'll see them there, I think them and the Bulldogs and Guss just screened that position.

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Speaker 2: To me, Sydney is a club that could be around that mark.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen point five is there over under last year they won twelve, so they're going to have to improve. But they've got Charlie Erno to stand in the goalf square. How much better does he make them?

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Speaker 3: CAF I think a fair bit. But I've still got Sydney going under for some reason, and I've gone through and done the latter predictor. I'm just not sure about this one. So yeah, obviously Charlie Keerner comes in, Logan McDonald comes back hopefully too, who's a virtual recruit after missing all of last year through injury. Hopefully yet Tom Papley and Errol Gordon back for full seasons after they missed a lot of footy last year. But it's yeah, it's a close call, but my gut just says they just missed this mark and then maybe another wildcard team as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got them getting one extra win, just pushing me over. I think Charlie Keerner is a real addition into that forward line. Now we've spoken about it a lot and the sort of impact that he has, but we didn't see Logan McDonald last year. Joelamardy was sort of leading the charge up Ford and he didn't have the greatest of years. He'd be much better number two, number three than a number one. And I think the back line there are some question marks over but you get a full season out of Errol Golden, which obviously this time last year he had broken his ankle and he was out for most of the year. That'll absolutely help Isaac Keeney through the midfield. It becomes more of a sort of a two to three man show than a one two. And then Chad Warner he signed on. He's extended at his time at the Swan's and hopefully he can take his game to another level. Then you've got the youngsters coming through as well, so there's plenty of talent on that list. I think home ground advantage as well. The SEG is relatively strong. I think Charlie Kerno if he can stay fit, which is a big if he's battled his body a little bit in the past. If he can stay fit, he'll have a cracking year at the SCG and push them just over once again.

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Speaker 5: Got them going in the wildcut.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Swans went six and two in the last eight games last season. A lot of that coincided with Errol Goldin coming back. They had a bit of a softer draw in that run slightly, but they still beat Brisbane, they still beat Freemantle in that sort of collection, so I think they're close to that team. And they went five and six at home last year as well, So I think they bumped that up change out to sort of what a seven and four or something, and they're going pretty close to this over under, so I think they get there. I think they're going to get over and I think they'll be running the premiership mix again. I'm pretty high on the Swans next year for both you over under Charlie Cerno forty five point five ive.

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Speaker 4: Goals over if he plays twenty games, you know what, I'll stick with over, I'll stick with over, I'll go over.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll be licking his lips with some service from Errol Gould and Isaac and Tad Warner coming out of the midfield. I think that'll be a bit better than he was getting a colt and so yeah, he should go over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he gets close set of fifty than forty. So good luck to him, a good luck to defend is trying to stop him. He's on the lead in errools looking up to try him on the chest. That one's going straight through his chest right there. West Coast is next talking about teams that absolutely smell they were horrible. Ask you won one game. They're over under his two point five all the way down. Surely they can't go under that, can they.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like you said about Port Adelaide, you don't really care or I don't really care about West Coast March. Apart from three players Harley Reed, Cooper Duff Titler and William Durz, I'm excited to see how they go. But apart from that, it's going to be a tough year again.

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Speaker 2: I've got to make Sunday games that you're not watching exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yes, a bit over it by that point of the weekend sometimes, but I think the only way is up, really hopefully for West Coast. I've got them going over. Only one win last year, averaged sixty four points a game, which isn't going to win you too many matches. Jake Waterman's a big one if they can get him back and fit again. He kicked a lot of goals a couple of years ago, fifty four goals or something like that. So, yeah, missed most of last year unfortunately. But yeah, surely Harley Reid can drag this young group to three wins. Maybe. I think so just got them going over.

00:21:36
Speaker 2: Love the confidence.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got them going under. I do.

00:21:39
Speaker 2: How many of you got them one.

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Speaker 4: I see them doubling their win turtle from last year, so from mine to two. Yeah, I just don't see the real talent that obviously lose Oscral and I know that he had an interrupted year. He was thrown back, thrown forward, and they created a lot of uncertainty around the squad. But yeah, a lot rides on Waterman up forward. Job Shanahan I think is going to be an absolute star, but he's still very young and quite raw. The back line there are a few question marks. I know they added Tyler Young and Brandon Stasovich there, but still very leaky down back. And the midfield is pretty reliant on Harley Reid and a bunch of other youngsters. And you've got to remember that Harley's barely out of his teenage years as well. So yeah, there's plenty of question marks, plenty of holes in that list, not to mention the sort of rough component there. So it will be Kooper Duff Tyler lining up round one in the rock. Who knows, he's probably the most talented ruck on the list. But yeah, there's just a whole heap of question marks. I think it's going to be another year of development, but in a positive spin, doubling their wins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've tipped him to go over only on the basis of history. So nine teams have won less than three games in the twenty first century, and only GWS went back to back less than three, So it's extremely rare to be that bad two years in a row. And that was obviously GS when half their team was seventeen year olds and the other half was Dean Brogan and a wash lick power. I think they probably get the over, but gee, three wins looks like a long way away to me. It looks like it's going to be a really tough year. I mean, surely, surely they have to be better than last year. You couldn't really be worse unless you started fielding Matt Forrester full forwards.

00:23:13
Speaker 5: So there are worse ideas.

00:23:15
Speaker 2: I think they're going to have to go over and get to three wins. Probably.

00:23:19
Speaker 1: Final team is the Western Bulldogs. Thirteen point five is that over under? In the past three years since the introduction of gathererund, they've won thirteen point three games per season, so they're right on the marquire those odds makers. They won fourteen last year. How do they go cap?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Another line ball call. I've got them just going over the defensive end does concern me for the dogs. Rory Lobbs another year older, there's not much backup for him if he goes down.

00:23:45
Speaker 2: They didn't do a lot to fix it.

00:23:46
Speaker 3: They didn't do a lot to fix it. They obviously looked at the guys like Jacksonvarney in the Tribe period didn't land him in the end. So they've got a few issues down there. But then again, if they need to have a few shootouts this year, can they win. Yes, They've got the midfield to do that with Bonton, Pali, Liberatore, ed Richards, they were all unbelievable last year. You've got Sam Darcy in Ara Norton up forward as yet your key pillars, and there a very formidable pairing. And then if Cardy Weightman can get his body right and get back to full fitness, he could kick forty goals this year, so that would be another big boost. So I think they can return to two finals after narrowing missing last year, and that would mean that they go over.

00:24:27
Speaker 4: I think yeah, wild card for me, but I've got them going under. Obviously the Ford line midfielder they're littered with stars, but that backland, as you said, CAV really concerns me. They don't really have the depth or the firepower down there to really hold teams too smaller scores. It's going to have to be shootouts up for which they can absolutely do. I think, you know, Sam Darky is going to go to another level. They've got. They've got some guns around him. Aaron Norton, you know, I had some games last year where you thought, oh my god, this guy's the number one key forward in the competition, but he can also go missing a little bit. That midfield is rock solid. They've got some absolute stars there. But the depth again, the sort of eighteen to twenty three plays, it's a real question mark on who really fills those gaps. We saw Joel Frazier come through and become a very handy addition. Whether someone like a Lucky Jacks can do that from the VFL team going into the AFL team had a little bit more depth there. I just don't know how strong they're twenty five twenty six players that they're going to rotate through a fair bit are. They're quite top heavy for me, So I've got them going under.

00:25:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have them over, but probably only just Their worst loss last year was twenty one points, and they only lost three times after sam Darci returned in round fourteen from his knee injury, so adding him into that forward line, I don't know if you're relying on sam Darcy being fit, is that a concern, But if he plays, I think they win more often than not. And the three losses they had after he came back, the worst was fifteen points. So they're always in gainst bulldogs. They do break your heart a lot, so they might break my heart. But I think they probably get to fourteen next year. When they won fourteen, it felt like a disappointing season, so I think they probably.

00:26:03
Speaker 2: Get there and maybe over that again.

00:26:05
Speaker 1: But they are another club that just screens wild card. They seem like an ultimate wildcard club given their position finishing the last four or five years under beverage.

00:26:14
Speaker 2: So that is it over and unders for every team.

00:26:16
Speaker 1: You'll be able to read all our over and unders, all our locks, all our mistakes on code sports dot com dou all of mine will be correct. Not sure about the others, but thanks for tuning in and looking forward to the season.