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[SPEAKER_00]: Or right, welcome back to another baseball America Prospect podcast is your host, Jeff Ponce, alongside me is my co-host some weeks, certainly my colleague, Josh Norris.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk a little bit about the Philly system here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just shine a light on the face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Would you excuse me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just shine a light on the Philly system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's shine a light on the Philly system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But among the five teams that you do, you do more teams in anybody else for the handbook.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where is this sort of sort out among those five teams?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would assume with the Dodgers probably being the best system that you do, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's, I prefer the giant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At this point, it's a point of attention.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of a one A, one B scenario.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The last three are kind of, you know, they're different than when the book came up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not the Philly's, I'm like the Philly's, it's a pretty static except for an IFA signing on the 15th, but my the Yankees and the Philly's, I'm the Yankees and the Rangers, both lost significant prospects since the book came out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, the, the, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Ryan Weathers trade cost the Yankees a few guys and the Kenzie Gore trade cost the Rangers a few guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So those got the systems have degraded a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think right now it's probably fill these number three just because of what the power they have at the top.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the deepest system, but they've got a couple really good players at the top, and they're really especially good one at the very top.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's get into that a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How difficult was the decision to rank 8 and Miller at one?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They do have another top 100 prospect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One who has been ranked extremely highly over the past few years in Andrew Painter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what was the decision between the two and ultimately, why did you go with Miller?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I went into the process prepared to write painter as number one, and I may have written them both at number one and then paired down painter's capsule to the three hundred words set of the five hundred word version.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you talk to people outside the system and inside the system, and it was, you know, Razor's Edge to Eden Miller.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, all right, well, who am I to disagree with evaluators inside and outside?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've never seen Eden Miller myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was hopeful to see him in the fall league, but that never materialized.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you're looking about to player who, you know, after a pretty rough early start, kind of figured it out toward the end, and has the key to the expectations in terms of being able to play shortstop, and hit for power, which were two big questions coming out of the draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Miller plays some more other than shortstop, because Drake Turner's pretty good over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, he could play third base pretty well, and he'd got the offense to profile.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Painter, as you may remember, for last year's podcast at this time, I'd say he's a future hall of Famer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really put it on the line for him last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: wasn't a bad year for a last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, okay, year with bursts of better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there was some, some rocks coming back from Tony John Territory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there were some, some of his stuff took a little bit step back where they added some wrinkles to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still think he has a really high ceiling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just he wasn't in the, in the rotation late in the year like I hoped you were expected he would be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Still a long way to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still have a lot of hope in him for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's, you know, one of the best pitching prospects in baseball that right now he's just not

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[SPEAKER_00]: want to go back to aid Miller for a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was there anything, you know, throughout the reporting process, whether it was speaking with the fillies themselves, or with, you know, outside of evaluators, anything they point to to a particular that was sort of a tipping point in his season when, you know, an adjustment set up change, you know, his hand placement, swing path,

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[SPEAKER_00]: was there anything that they sort of adjusted that sort of was the aha moment that allowed him to take that big step forward and really surge late in the season?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The early in the season, I expected him to struggle because the Eastern League is the Eastern League in April.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's very few places on the minor league map where it's not bad weather to start the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you're planning a trip, if you're a scout or something, you might want to start in like Florida or California or Texas, somewhere that's not the Eastern League.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know if that was going to be mitigated by the fact that Redding is a pretty hit or friendly place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the one thing they pointed to, I believe internally, was that he was getting

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[SPEAKER_01]: just a bush of breaking balls, more than by their metrics more than I believe any hitter in the miners through some certain period.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And once you've got to learn which ones to rip on and how to get to the fastballs by picking through the breaking balls, things change.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's one of those things that that's why we talked about this gap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's so hard to see that just on your own or necessarily in the data that we have available, we have some data, but it's not, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: not the old the deck cards that a team has played with you know so that's kind of the tipping point there I think and then he started to show his root potential and then I was hoping like I said to see him continue it and the offense happy land that is the fall league and

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I get pulled out at the last minute, just like so many guys from this year's folly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think that's what gave him the edge was just like, there's that potential there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's he could be really, really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, there's play of off season to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, there's not plenty of off season with a little bit of off season to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Nebraska does a really good job of evaluating his own systems.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that he's kept this guy in the fold tells me kind of what they think about him a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think for sure, I think the thing that you also called out that was surprising because this was a guy when he was drafted at the back end of the first round a few years back was kind of, you know, voted as like a future third basement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The idea that he would stick at short stop was probably unlikely to this off season, getting consistent plus grades on the glove.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The arm has always been really strong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but there's like a real belief that he could stick at shortstop and, and I'll be honest, I don't think it would be unreasonable if the Phillies are looking for the best defensive lineup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he maybe did push trade turn into second base and, you know, maybe Alec bomb ends up getting moved, et cetera, like those things have kind of been rumored for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This might be the Phillies shortstop for the next five to six years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's that's crazy to say, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's crazy to say, I don't know, that's this year, or in the coming years, or I don't know how 80 Miller has to get the triple eight for people at first, do you get the triple eight?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got a little bit there at the end, but it's, if it's not this year, it might be next year, what, what have you, but he certainly got the chops to do it, put it that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it wouldn't surprise me if he gets a little bit of reps there this year, especially if the spell turner or things like that, but it's nice to have a guy that you're pretty sure can hand stick on the left side regardless and have the offense to profile either spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they took a risk on this guy in the draft when you know, it was, like you said, it wasn't a slam dunk to the plate or stop or even a lay up to the plate or stop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the power was a question because he had a wrist injury and both those things have come back and spades and now it looks like, you know, a top 20 prospect in the game, I don't remember where we rank him, but it's high.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the other one I want to call out to is he's kind of this unique guy who puts up a lead stolen base numbers in the minor leagues, but his only an average runner and.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think even looking at the run times, that's pretty consistent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So do you think that the stolen base is still a 20 stolen base guy in a full season of the majors?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it more than that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it can get to 20.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks over speed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've got a couple of those guys in my system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do the doctors as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And nobody's going to stay across the way to Paula for a burner or a candle Georgia, Kevin Lindsay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he stole 30 bags last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's sometimes you steal bags on pure speed like you're a Chandler Simpson or a guy or sometimes you steal them, you know, through the AA, the rules of change a little bit with the pickoffs, but you steal them through Gile and reading pictures and knowing which catchers grown in advance reports and things like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how he got to them and those things, you can sharpen those and you get to the big leagues, but it's not something that just goes away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Need the defenders get better, but you can still read pictures and learn how to take

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think you're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now we're spending a little longer here on the top two prospects, but I think there's a good reason behind that that they're both very interesting players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Going back to Andrew Painter now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't up and down season and I think depending upon the day, I know that, you know, Ian Kendall and I were in Worcester one time where he absolutely shoved and looked phenomenal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fast ball was very hitable despite the ride that he gets and the velocity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just seems like hitters really see that pitch pretty well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The secondaries on the other hand are phenomenal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a deep repertoire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: really commands all those well, that's where a lot of his swing and miss comes from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have the Phillies talked about altering the fastball shape, adding a more prominent sinker in terms of usage or maybe more of a cut ride type of profile?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he has enough traits that I would assume that there's another fastball shape in there that works in the power.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do the Phillies sort of navigate that question regarding the forcing fastball?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they added a cutter and a two-seamer and they didn't use them crazy amounts during the regular season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But one thing they pointed to, and I had another team point this out to me with a different picture, was that when you come back from Tommy John surgery, sometimes it's hard to keep a consistent arm slot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: this year and so they're you know hoping of two full seasons now off of TJ they may see a little uptake or improvement in the shape and I thought that was kind of interesting a little way to look at it and it makes sense because you haven't even missed two almost two full years saved for those six starts in the fall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can understand it's a cool part of the course of a regular season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: your army's a little tired, your slot drops, shoot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember this is completely off the beaten path, but when we used to play like sandlot ball, the BA employees would go to the others with back fields, right behind our little office, and I was this all-time pitcher because I wanted to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Number one point, John Manor, or remove me because he said my slot was dropping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, first of all, we're taking this very seriously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm thought about 40 miles an hour at best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I kind of stuck with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay, first of all, he's noticing that with me, I granted I was pitching to his son.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I kind of think he wanted to get hit by anything from a wild bear here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I thought about that a little bit when we were talking about painters slot dropping a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, he's a little harder than I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And more innings, it was like, okay, you get a little more tired as the longer season goes along, you're slot drops a little bit, your fastball's shape drops.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, all right, interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a good old B.A.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sandlot scouting of the internal prospects.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's move on to the next one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Question me always throughout there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How is this system gotten better or worse over the last year, Josh?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are your thoughts there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it got a little better at the top because Miller took even more strides, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's just not the deepest system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Justin Crawford still has a very intriguing and divisive prospect, especially when it comes to defense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still not getting the ball off the ground as much as you would like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some guys graduated that would be helpful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there was also a lot of injuries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you didn't get to see the full,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gosh, Griffin Burkholder experience, because he was hurt, you know, Alex and Farlane came back and TJ was pretty good, Dev and Salt, and obviously had an unfortunate injury, and it was just a lot of tread and water in this system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's a, it's not a very deep system, but there's some interesting stuff there, so I don't remember where we had them right this year, but it's toward the 2030, it's somewhere in the 20th, 20th, 20th, 30 range.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And do you feel like, in terms of this last draft?

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[SPEAKER_00]: better or worse in terms of the players that have been added to the system, you know, obviously they have somebody here at five engaged would that has a lot of relief risk, but also has, I think, major upside and, you know, could potentially be somebody maybe in the the conversation for one, there will probably talk about that in a little bit, better or worse draft class in terms of the incoming talent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to

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[SPEAKER_01]: do some bad podcasting and say push.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This cause would, you know, pitched a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fisher didn't pitch at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Obermiller got much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of their guys just didn't do anything this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll see what they look like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very picture-heavy in terms of the guys that I ranked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They also traded away some of the guys at the back of their system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And also traded some guys at the front of their system, they traded Tait.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm liking it, who else they make able, even though he didn't count for the prospect stuff anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, they lost some guys at the top, and that's some guys that we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have a couple guys that they jumped forward, but it's just

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[SPEAKER_01]: there's a few good guys at the top and it's not just I guess that it's just not depthy I feel like I'm saying the same thing but it's not it's true every time there it's just not a depthy system right now and we're kind of waiting you know holding pattern on a few of the draft guys from the last year and then you know even in the book they don't reflect the guy they just added for it so it's going as a rea on the international market who has some pretty boom bust potential based on the great then dad they're scouting report we slaughtered him in

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[SPEAKER_01]: If this comes out tomorrow on Tuesday, you'll see it the next day, so Wednesday, it's supposed to go on the site, but we're slotting in all the IFAs and then accounting for any other movement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, if you read my Ranger system, all the guys from the Gore Trader gone or the Yankee system, all those guys are gone, adjusted 30s are coming to the site Wednesday and then 30 going through 40 few weeks later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, let's, let's get into the next question here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who are your guesses for who could the number one prospect be in the system next year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say if A to Miller does graduate, because it was obviously a chance to be doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think there's a strong chance he doesn't graduate, but we'll see if he does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you might be right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It might be wood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could see it outside chance at Matthew Fisher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a lot of obvious candidates right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just easy to take the the slant the first rounder and bump him up, you know, who they're going to add in this coming draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that guy could be your number one draft pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's a lot of guys that like, you know, if you told me Miller painter and Crawford all graduated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: wouldn't be super surprising, then you're left with Escobar who is, I would be stunned if he graduated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably him and would fight in for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it really outside of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe, maybe you want to go super wildcard, like I just said, Francisco of Nigeria, who they just added.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's not a whole lot of like slam dunk guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you're talking about, I don't know if we've done the white socks podcast, but like pretty sure they're going to

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know who's going to take it one, and I'm pretty sure he's going to want it as their number one overall prospect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Next year, there's no that guy for them, for the fillies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that was sort of the easy answer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, with the, with the fillies that it's like, and there's no one like, that's a true guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're not going to draft high enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're not going to make a trade for a prospect and start tearing this thing down and rebuild unless it goes really south and I would be even shocked around happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's move on to the final question on the video portion of the podcast, Josh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is this organization good at development?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I answer that in a roundabout way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the way Brian Barber operates where he takes risky profiles and does a good job getting the most out of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the 2020 draft he went with Mick Abel, high school right hand her out of Great estate in the union or again, but not a great state for, you know, baseball talent usually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Other than some good ones come out there recently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Andrew Painter is a high school right hander who's also like 67.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not

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[SPEAKER_01]: a very, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew you were going to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, it's a profile fraught with risk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about Miller.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, his stock was a little bit depressed based on the injury, but they took the bat on him at the back and up the back of the first round, I think, and did really well with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I liked that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You go with upside, the upside that you can when you draft low.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, you keep putting in the big leagues that you're going to draft a little bit lower.

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[SPEAKER_01]: who kind of strategy I like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Crafts them upside and I hope you hope your developers get the most out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cane Obermieler is the same way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the least risky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The safest profile, but there's a lot of upside there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Same idea, Matthew Fisher, high school right hander.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty interesting profile.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're just, you're just that on upside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're trying to shoot the moon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I like that strategy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's worked for them pretty well so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's accurate, and as we sort of wrap up the video portion of the podcast here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Any other players from the top 10, you hit spoke fairly highly of Matthew Fisher as like a dark horse for number one next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For those not familiar, fill us in a little bit about Fisher, because high school guy obviously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Matthew Fisher is a high school writer like you said from Indiana, who's got, you know, a good frame and a good mix of pitches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's not there's a plus slider on the car above average fastball potential for a fringy change up average strike thrower, good pitchers frame at 6,300.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All those things are there for him to develop it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you get the most out of them, they can shoot up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same kind of,

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[SPEAKER_01]: all in a approach that I like, instead of taking just the safe college guy at the back, there's a chance he could flame, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's also significant upside and pitching is the name of the game, so they can be valuable and trading a couple years or this year if he really develops and below his levels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There we have it for those that have tuned in on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for joining us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For those that are listening on the podcast feed, we've got more questions for you coming in just a minute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, and we are back with more fillies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Top 30 talk, Jeff Ponds, Josh Norris, Baseball America podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Josh, let's jump into the fun parts of the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who are some of the sleepers in this filly system?

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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe even after like nine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are a lot of names that people know in this system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So who are a few that you'd want to shine the light on a little bit?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think we just had an article on this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go on this side here, like today, if you're, or yesterday, if you're listening to this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But one guy I really liked was Ramon Marquez, whose name came up, you know, mid-season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: a pretty fastball change of combo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's the slider come, but he did a really good job in the FCL, and then very well saved for one really disaster start in the Florida State League.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He could be an up arrow prospect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's why I've ranked him at 12.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I said the lack in depth in the system, and there's an upside there, who else do I like Anderson or Rauho, kind of a nice,

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[SPEAKER_01]: potential backup capture with some thump in the who did well in the DSL this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gid Craig right hander is a guy that they really liked and he's older, he's like 24 already.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a big time slider and I think he can move really quickly and be one of those guys it, you know, outside Jans at the majors this year, things go really well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are internally and externally people pointed to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Griffin Berkholder's got tools, but you just need, you doesn't have the health tool right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you talk to scouts, they're like, you see it in fits and starts, but you only see him in fits and starts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, there's, if it all comes together health-wise, you might see the most out of these tools there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And those are the guy that can come up with off the top of my head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, a little bit of time sleepers at the back here, but there's just a few names.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not, it's a lot of guys who perform their way on to list and then guys that had some shine maybe out of the draft and they do something well that you're just not fully bought in on, as major league players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of those guys in this with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to ask you about though, because, you know, I always have a rule five draft fever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what are the chances that you think Zach McCambley makes this roster this year and actually sticks with the fillies?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a good chance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Big League, ready, reliever with a nasty breaking ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if they can find a way to use them in low-level situations, I wouldn't be surprised if he sticks in that ball, him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, you know, they took him for a reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't be super surprised.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's gotten better at this as JJ Cooper will tell you, finding guys that stick in in the rule five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's true and you know, definitely definitely a pretty interesting arm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, guy that was a starter at one point, as you said, is now kind of made really ready.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As a reliever, interesting angles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's also a bullpen that I feel like is always under reconstruction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I mean, if you look at one that's been like a consistent running narrative of this Philly team over the last couple years, if they've been Jason Champion chips.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Josh, I want to thank you for joining me today to talk about this Philly system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: any sort of like high level closing thoughts on the system where it's going etc.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love, okay, no pressure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like I've said a thousand times on this podcast, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the deepest, but if you have Andrew Painter and Amy Miller and Justin Crawford at the top, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, JJ always tells us that like I'd rather have two or three future stars at the top than a bunch of, you know, 45 and 50s throughout, and that's what they have right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you get the ceiling, if you get painter and Crawford,

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[SPEAKER_01]: and Miller to reach their ceilings, that's the really, really good ball players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And...

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really valuable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It can help your team that's getting a little bit, well, they're all getting older.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But a team that's starting to age a little bit, really help in the coming years as they try to compete in a increasingly competitive and at least, you know, the mats are bulk it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The braids, obviously, have a bounce back or a bad year last year, but we'll see what they look like this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll see what the marlins and the the

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[SPEAKER_01]: a couple years away, but you know, trying to battle the meds and the braves the next couple years we'll see how it goes, but if those guys are what we think they are, that will go a long way toward pushing it back toward the world series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, Eric.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Josh, thanks for joining me, man.

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