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Nandi K
Welcome back to Right Quick.
02:05.67
Vance π
A bite-sized pop culture conversation with your favorite queer, unfriendly Black hotties.
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Nandi K
We're unfriendly today because they just don't make Black cinema like they used to. I'm Nandi Kayyy
02:18.21
Vance π
I am Vance Gowe, and I'm really sad that we don't make Black cinema like we used to.
02:24.18
Nandi K
There was definitely a golden age and
02:27.70
Vance π
It was. i think I think it was because like the racism of the industry was so like open that like everything was...
02:33.28
Nandi K
Sure.
02:36.50
Vance π
like I mean, we're already jumping into the thing, but like ah Eddie Murphy... like Talk about...
02:42.52
Nandi K
Man.
02:42.61
Vance π
like The first time they had Black people in like executive roles and the everybody in the cast was Black. And they used to have him on TV being like, why is everyone a nigga? He's like, why is everyone white in your movie?
02:53.01
Vance π
like What you talking about?
02:53.46
Nandi K
Right. Exactly. Yeah.
02:55.32
Vance π
Why can't be
02:55.38
Nandi K
So if... Listen, so if y'all haven't caught it today, we are talking about Black cinema, the greatest of all time.
02:57.24
Vance π
love interest
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Nandi K
i mean, we were talking before we started recording and I said it, this is the hardest decision I ever had to make in life. Like number one, I've never.
03:18.90
Vance π
for real uh
03:19.35
Nandi K
and I went to the chop shop and this was harder.
03:23.52
Vance π
Nandi, please. um
03:24.82
Nandi K
I'm just saying.
03:25.95
Vance π
We're two minutes, less than two minutes in. um that being That being said, no, it was very hard.
03:28.86
Nandi K
hey
03:32.91
Vance π
So yeah, today we are we're doing another rating episode. We are rating our top five Black movies.
03:36.63
Nandi K
here
03:40.34
Vance π
I'm not gonna hold you, Nandi. I didn't even do mine. Like, I mean, I did it, but like, mine is not numbered right now.
03:45.59
Nandi K
Oh, no.
03:45.98
Vance π
Like,
03:46.35
Nandi K
I numbered mine because I need to be able to talk about it in order.
03:50.49
Vance π
It will be numbered, but it's not at this very moment numbered. So I will say that. ah so So yeah, just to open up the conversation about Black cinema. So did you grow up watching Black movies?
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Nandi K
So as many of y'all know, I grew up really conservative. I grew up deep in the church. I wasn't even allowed to listen to not gospel music until, i mean, I still wasn't allowed at this time, but I was like 12 or something.
04:12.03
Vance π
Mm-hmm. That's why I'm asking.
04:22.07
Nandi K
when I started listening to like non-gospel music on my own. I could listen to like some R&B and like jazz, but no rap.
04:33.14
Nandi K
So I started listening to rap like, you know, at the end of elementary school, early, basically when I had access to the internet for the first time. um So obviously, yeah, we couldn't watch R-rated movies or movies with cussing or sex, but my daddy, this is the joy of divorce parenthood, he would take us to see all kinda shit.
04:43.26
Vance π
Right. That's because they don't understand. Right.
04:56.41
Vance π
Yeah. So.
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Nandi K
So then on the weekends or whenever my daddy decided that he wanted to be a father to us, sometimes we would go to the movies and we would see stuff like, yeah, we would see Black movies.
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Nandi K
Yeah, I saw like all the Black movies. And we had hella um bootlegs too growing up.
05:12.57
Vance π
Right, right.
05:13.27
Nandi K
Yeah.
05:13.90
Vance π
yeah Yeah, so like I will say we grew up because we were like super latchkey, but my mom, I don't know what was going on over there.
05:20.34
Nandi K
Yeah.
05:22.02
Vance π
Like we were watching, i remember my favorite movie as a little, like two years old was like Juice.
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Nandi K
Wild.
05:28.25
Vance π
I would say want to watch Juice.
05:28.62
Nandi K
That's what's wrong with you now.
05:30.58
Vance π
I mean, look, I'll shoot a nigga.
05:30.71
Nandi K
That's what's wrong with you now. Yeah. That explains a lot.
05:34.06
Vance π
I will.
05:35.40
Nandi K
Yep.
05:36.10
Aaron Rand Freeman
you
05:37.43
Vance π
I will mug you like like people don't know that, but I will.
05:40.95
Nandi K
ah
05:41.37
Vance π
So Juice, Candyman, Chucky, like we used to just watch horror movies.
05:45.40
Nandi K
yeah
05:46.75
Vance π
And I love horror to this day, right? So anyway, um I grew up watching them. My mama was like low-key a film buff, so she used to have like all the all the Black movies on VHS. And, you know, of course she would be like, don't watch this, but we don't care.
05:59.69
Vance π
Like we'll watch it. So I grew up watching whatever my mom watched, so which was a lot of Black cinema.
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Nandi K
Yeah.
06:05.88
Vance π
So, you know, yeah, student of the game.
06:06.36
Nandi K
where You know, it's funny you mentioned horror. Before my mom like went back to church and got holy and stuff, she loved horror.
06:17.05
Nandi K
So I saw βItβ when I was like i was like a baby.
06:21.21
Vance π
Uh, that's worse than juice.
06:21.46
Nandi K
And I was, before i went to the before I went to the circus.
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Vance π
Barely.
06:25.62
Nandi K
So by the time my mama took me to the circus, I was scared of clowns. I was like, get me out of here.
06:29.53
Vance π
Uh, βItβ as a baby is child abuse. Lucky. Cause it's scary.
06:34.17
Nandi K
Yeah.
06:34.56
Vance π
Like anyway, to do
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Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah, i grew up watching a lot of horror, but yeah, we watched Black shit too. It used to be on TV mostly though.
06:43.38
Vance π
that too. Okay.
06:48.09
Vance π
All right, so i would like, we're going to jump into our rating, but we got to get the rules, of course.
06:48.44
Nandi K
Yeah.
06:53.18
Vance π
So we will, when I say the define Black cinema, like that's a big the definition.
06:53.56
Nandi K
Of course.
06:58.34
Vance π
So it's more whittled down, right? So these are the rules. The movie must be made by and or be about Black folk, right? Black people must have a predominantly Black cast.
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Vance π
And like, you know, you know we we loose for rules because like, let's say if you had Get Out on here, I would not boo you.
07:15.93
Nandi K
Right, right.
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Vance π
Cause it's the subject matter is Black. Um, must.
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Nandi K
Yeah.
07:19.83
Vance π
Okay. And it can be any genre documentaries, horror.
07:22.33
Nandi K
Great. So that includes documentaries. Great.
07:24.97
Vance π
Yup. Um, and then we, you and I have been tasked with choosing five of our favorite Blacks, Black movies to discuss and, um say what the best of all time.
07:37.17
Nandi K
Oh, man. I can hear the boos now.
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Vance π
know, know. I, know I did want to give a ah disclaimer because I know, i know. um We are only people of limited experiences, you know, so with that being said, ah we say something that you thought, like, tell us, of course, but like, there's there's gaps in our nigga knowledge. Like, that's just what it is. Like,
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Nandi K
Yeah, Aaron was talking about that New Jersey Drive movie, a regional classic, you know?
08:05.78
Vance π
never heard of her. Never heard. Who is that? Yeah.
08:08.60
Nandi K
She could be walking by me on the street. I wouldnβt know a thing.
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Vance π
glo Excuse me, ma'am, your wallet Like you dropped your purse, ma'am never would not know um Okay, do you We're gonna go let's Let's go number five to number one um Let's talk What you got?
08:21.66
Nandi K
my God. Yeah. Number five. All right. All right, for me, coming in at number five is The Piano Lesson, The 1995 version ah it stars Charles Dutton, Alfre Woodard, Lou Myers, and Courtney B. Vance.
08:47.22
Nandi K
Obviously, it's based on the play by August Wilson of the same name.
08:47.36
Vance π
Yeah.
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Nandi K
ah This is one of my earliest movie memories in life. It is Southern. It talks about there's Black people selling watermelon. It's just there's formerly enslaved ah people. There are family heirlooms. There's ghosts. ah There's music.
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Nandi K
It's such a good film. Oh God, they have a work song scene that I watched today looking for it called Berta Berta and I love prison work songs. And it's just like such an incredible movie. I love it.
09:29.34
Nandi K
And it's way better than that new one that they made.
09:33.24
Vance π
damn okay that was that was so profound like no no jokes um i never saw the og one i saw the new one i thought it was fine um but i also feel like uh that actually really fits for you like it's very southern there's some horror in it it's music family niggas okay dang nandi
09:44.66
Nandi K
It was fine.
09:51.96
Nandi K
okay yeah yeah very special starting off hot all right number five
09:58.04
Vance π
Okay, let me just, let me look at my list now, because you're going poignant and shit.
10:06.23
Nandi K
see this why i ranked mine before because i was like i don't want to be questioning myself based on like what you chose all right let's go number five
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Vance π
um know I know, know.
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Vance π
know. Okay.
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Vance π
I'm going to choose Temptations.
10:19.67
Vance π
Okay, so Temptations. um I don't even know the name of the cast because I didn't write it down.
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Nandi K
Daddy.
10:24.51
Vance π
i know Leon is in it. and ah and a but And a bunch of your faves that you don't know their names.
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Nandi K
Daddy.
10:29.80
Vance π
But ah Temptations, it's a family movie for me.
10:33.30
Vance π
um You got five hobbies for Temptations. My family is a Temptation family. um They are Jehovah Witnesses, as I always talk about.
10:39.06
Nandi K
and
10:41.08
Vance π
So, you know, the the more Disney one was the one, even though there was crack in this. um
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Nandi K
yeah
10:47.26
Vance π
I love Temptations. I love the movie. It's about it's about family, music, niggas being niggas.
10:55.35
Nandi K
Yeah, I like The Temptations.
10:55.38
Vance π
Yeah, I don't know.
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Nandi K
It's a musical. That's why I like The Temptations.
10:58.14
Vance π
Yeah.
10:59.19
Nandi K
I really wanted to put a musical on my list. ah This was close. Dreamgirls was close. I think this is a great, solid-ass choice.
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Vance π
I have two biopics on here. So I needed a biopic because I think if you're talking classic Black cinema, like, I mean, I i don't have a Tina Turner on here, which she should be maybe, but, which but the,
11:15.89
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
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Nandi K
I didn't. I should have chose that, but I did not include a biopic, and I should have.
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Vance π
If we goin biopics, that's like the gold standard. But anyway, Temptations is also fun.
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Nandi K
okay
11:31.82
Vance π
it's not It's not too heavy.
11:32.73
Nandi K
Yeah.
11:33.22
Vance π
Like five heartbeats gets a little heavy.
11:35.48
Nandi K
I agree.
11:35.54
Vance π
All right. Let's go number four.
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Nandi K
Number four for me is Boys in the Hood.
11:43.54
Vance π
Okay. Nice.
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Nandi K
John Singleton's Feature directorial debut. We got Laurence Fishburne, Nia Long, Cuba Gooding Jr., Ice Cube, Regina King, Angela Bassett.
11:57.71
Nandi K
We are talking, baby, Blackity Black Black. It's made by and fully starring Black people. And also the subject matter is Black.
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Nandi K
And also Morris Chestnut's fine ass is in there.
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Vance π
Yeah. Okay.
12:12.92
Nandi K
oh Ricky! I still mourn Ricky every day, but what a beautiful film about real shit. And apparently it's like based on a Eazy-E rap song ah of the same name called Boys in the Hood.
12:34.01
Nandi K
I have all my little descriptions as you can say.
12:33.98
Vance π
Oh, the boys in the hood are always hard. Yes.
12:36.09
Nandi K
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So it's based off of that. I wanted to include a hood classic. It was this or Menace to Society.
12:45.62
Vance π
I used to love that movie.
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Nandi K
I love that movie too, but this was earlier and that's what ended up making the cut. This is like two years before Menace's Society. So I'm like, this is the blueprint. So I'm going with Boys in the Hood.
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Vance π
Okay.
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Nandi K
Okay.
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Vance π
All right. Ah.
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Nandi K
What you got?
13:06.14
Vance π
I feel like my list don't even really got to be not real. Who needs to know? Okay. Anyway, I'm going go.
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Nandi K
bye!
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Vance π
I'm to stick. I'm to stick with you. I'm to stick with you. ah hood Hood classic, Hood movie, Friday.
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Nandi K
Hey, another banger.
13:19.26
Vance π
For all the same reasons.
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Nandi K
Of course, that was on my big list. Yeah.
13:22.58
Vance π
Ice Cube, Chris Tucker, John Singleton, Regina King, The King. I forgot the mama's name. don't don't don't you Don't come for me, Blacks. But everybody's in the movie. ah Bernie Mac. Everybody's in the movie. It's hilarious. It's a hood classic. It's about nothing.
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Vance π
ah Two Dumbass Niggas is Livin' They Day.
13:41.44
Nandi K
Yeah.
13:44.60
Vance π
ah it It has some rom-com elements. It's just fun. It's a hood movie while still being light and fun, which I think not enough of that in the genre.
13:50.71
Nandi K
yeah
13:54.46
Vance π
So Friday.
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Nandi K
Very, very solid. Yeah, that's great. And I like that Friday's like a more lighthearted, the lighthearted version of like Boys in the Hood.
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Vance π
Right.
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Nandi K
It's like, the what's happening with the goofy nigga?
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Vance π
Right, right.
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Nandi K
It's like, yeah, he's there.
14:10.86
Vance π
Because the goofy nigga is there. Like, always.
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Nandi K
Yeah, yeah exactly.
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Vance π
Always. he Getting shot at because he's stupid.
14:15.88
Nandi K
Yeah, that's good.
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Vance π
Because he goofy.
14:20.38
Nandi K
Yeah, listen. All right, number three.
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Vance π
Number three.
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Nandi K
Oh, my God. We're we're blowing through these. We're getting tight. Okay, my number three is New Jack City.
14:33.76
Vance π
Okay, Nino Brown.
14:35.19
Nandi K
Listen, directed by Mario Van Peebles, it stars Wesley Snipes, Ice-T, Alan Payne, Chris Rock,
14:40.30
Vance π
Nice
14:46.69
Vance π
Pookie
14:46.84
Nandi K
Bill Cobbs, who I love. Oh my God, I used to love Bill Cobbs. He's that old man. um And i learned while I was like getting myself together for this episode, it premiered at Sundance, which makes total sense. I do think that New Jack City is like Black film noir in some ways. Like,
15:09.24
Nandi K
is so beautiful. i Nino Brown is my sexuality. Whatever sexuality, I'm, yeah, like I'm Nino Brown.
15:17.46
Vance π
Yeah.
15:19.64
Nandi K
Yeah, whatever you put on the end of that, a sexual, Nino Brownsexual. That's what I am. And I want to wear every outfit. Wesley Snipes, oh God.
15:32.79
Nandi K
Yeah, everything is perfect about that movie. um It has funny. It has crime. It has shirtless Wesley Snipes. It has stealing bitches.
15:44.81
Nandi K
It's great.
15:46.94
Vance π
Okay.
15:47.63
Nandi K
Yeah.
15:48.95
Vance π
All right. Whittlin down my list here.
15:53.53
Vance π
All right.
15:53.92
Nandi K
Whittling it down.
15:55.31
Vance π
I'm going to say Best Man, the entire thing.
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Nandi K
Bye. We want the entire thing.
16:01.98
Vance π
now
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Aaron Rand Freeman
Ha ha.
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Vance π
Yeah, the the series, like like the Best Man 1 and 2 and the series. just
16:08.02
Nandi K
Sure.
16:09.02
Vance π
I think...
16:09.46
Nandi K
The entire Best Man catalog.
16:09.54
Vance π
i Yes, and I only say this because like they have no skips. Like, the
16:17.40
Nandi K
I agree with that.
16:18.65
Vance π
The cast is phenomenal. They're fine. the
16:24.57
Nandi K
Some of the same people.
16:24.54
Vance π
The subject matter...
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Nandi K
I think we're seeing some major crossover in a lot of these casts too.
16:30.94
Vance π
what In our list are the cast.
16:31.85
Nandi K
Nia Long and Morris Chestnut have been in three of, this is the third thing that they've been in
16:33.50
Vance π
Nia Long, Fine Ass.
16:39.90
Vance π
Friday, this, and what's the other one?
16:41.02
Nandi K
Boys in a Hood, Boys in Hood.
16:42.04
Vance π
Nia Long. Oh, was she and is she in Boys in the Hood?
16:44.22
Nandi K
Yes, yes, yes.
16:45.84
Vance π
With ha fine ass, she's so fine.
16:48.31
Nandi K
She's so fine.
16:49.85
Vance π
um So, Boys in Hood has, like, one of the best casts. um They all age great. um The subject matter in the first movie is so good. um It's, like, about betrayal.
17:01.98
Vance π
It's about brotherhood, friendship, but also betrayal and being, like... a raggedy man. Like, uh, what's his name?
17:08.54
Nandi K
Right.
17:08.97
Vance π
Morris Chestnut's character is so raggedy in the first one. And they make it seem like Q, uh, Terrence Howard's character is the most raggedy, but he's not, he, he, he's calling him out actually.
17:16.56
Nandi K
Terrence Howard
17:19.38
Nandi K
No.
17:21.71
Vance π
And he's messy for sure. Like he likes the mess. He lives for the mess, but
17:24.47
Nandi K
The best man is Harold Perrineau. He's the actual good man of the group.
17:29.85
Vance π
yeah, yeah, that's true.
17:30.75
Nandi K
And fine. Someone who I've been in love with since Romeo and Juliet.
17:32.38
Vance π
Yeah, that's true.
17:35.77
Vance π
The, Yes. Was Mercutio?
17:38.43
Nandi K
Ugh. Yes, baby.
17:40.41
Vance π
He was a cousin, right?
17:41.25
Nandi K
Yes, he was. Oh, I love...
17:44.31
Vance π
oh But yeah, the cast is good.
17:45.69
Aaron Rand Freeman
What?
17:47.09
Vance π
It's ah it's kind of a rom-com. like It has rom-com elements, but it's not really a rom-com because it's really like...
17:51.87
Nandi K
It's the drama, I guess.
17:53.08
Vance π
The love is between the friends. um Harper and... What's her name? Jordan are the messiest. They are the messiest couple that we root for. in media like The movie is so messy.
18:05.38
Vance π
There's not even like really a love scene in the first movie other than a flashback of um Harper and Mia having sex during the wedding.
18:05.66
Nandi K
I love it.
18:10.44
Nandi K
Homegirl. Yeah.
18:14.97
Nandi K
Wild.
18:15.54
Vance π
which is Which is crazy. But anyway, Best Man. I've been revisiting Best Man for like the last maybe five years. And I love everything about it. So that low key could have been my number one.
18:24.90
Nandi K
Oh.
18:26.09
Vance π
But here we are.
18:26.75
Nandi K
Wow.
18:26.93
Vance π
Best Man number three.
18:28.41
Nandi K
Very good. Yeah. You make a great argument. And again, stellar cast. I mean, Taye Diggs is also one of the greatest Black actors of our time.
18:37.22
Vance π
Love Taye Diggs.
18:37.49
Nandi K
He's so funny. I love me some Taye Diggs.
18:39.16
Vance π
He...
18:40.77
Nandi K
His online presence is so great and hilarious. I'm a fan.
18:46.59
Vance π
Dang, I love Taye Diggs. no i like I was just thinking that because I'm thinking about my number one movie.
18:48.31
Nandi K
Yeah, he's great.
18:52.05
Nandi K
He's great.
18:52.58
Vance π
Spoiler.
18:52.85
Nandi K
Oh, okay.
18:53.21
Vance π
Okay.
18:54.33
Nandi K
Okay.
18:55.54
Vance π
Number two.
18:55.58
Nandi K
Okay, so we're at number two. Wow, we are fucking... Okay, number two for me. Waiting to exhale.
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Nandi K
Number two.
19:08.25
Vance π
Wait.
19:09.56
Nandi K
Yeah.
19:12.18
Vance π
I don't want to say this on a podcast. I watched Waiting for Exhale.
19:14.07
Nandi K
Yeah, because you're about to say something crazy.
19:16.28
Vance π
recently and I did not like it.
19:17.62
Nandi K
Yes. No, you didn't like how people were acting you like the movie you just don't like that how true this shit is yeah no so everyone I know y'all know this but obviously Waiting to Exhale an actual rom-com drama directed by Forrest Whitaker is his directorial debut and had ah and it yes and it was adapted from the novel by Terry McMillan who was that
19:24.18
Vance π
They were,
19:26.38
Aaron Rand Freeman
What the hell?
19:28.95
Vance π
oh my God, I was stressed.
19:44.06
Vance π
Hey, Sleepy Eye Nation.
19:51.61
Nandi K
girl in the 90s all of her books were becoming movies at that time we had Lela Rochon's fine ass Loretta Devine's fine ass Whitney Houston's fine ass um who else was it Loretta Devine Whitney Houston and Angela Bassett's fine ass. Angela Bassett shook the world with that haircut and
19:59.21
Vance π
Fine. Sunshine.
20:07.54
Vance π
um Did you say Loretta?
20:11.29
Vance π
Angela Bassett? Angela Bassett.
20:18.04
Vance π
she was She was like supernaturally fine in that movie. And like it's crazy because everybody else is fine.
20:22.81
Nandi K
Yes.
20:24.01
Aaron Rand Freeman
Thank you.
20:25.45
Vance π
So it wasn't even like she was killing them, but she was super vampire.
20:27.93
Nandi K
No. She's so fine. she Yeah, she changed the world with that haircut. And then the soundtrack of that film, Babyface, did his thing.
20:36.06
Vance π
Yeah, yeah.
20:40.38
Nandi K
That movie is perfect. I also watched it recently in a Whitney kind of triple header. did Soul Food. this and then the preacher's wife but waiting to exhale is a perfect movie it's real i think women today still relate to it and that is sad but it is a perfect movie everyone is a good actress no notes
20:52.83
Vance π
Yep.
21:03.09
Vance π
Yeah.
21:08.79
Vance π
OK. Well, we are number two.
21:12.88
Nandi K
we're at number two
21:14.74
Vance π
All right, number two, I'm really struggling here, so i have.
21:21.66
Vance π
Okay, I'm just going to say, set it off.
21:26.97
Nandi K
Very good.
21:27.24
Vance π
I'm going to give honorable mentions, but set it off.
21:27.71
Nandi K
Sure.
21:30.45
Vance π
um I didn't want to have like, technically, I guess I have two hood movies on here or like, you know, like Friday and set it off.
21:37.39
Nandi K
Yeah.
21:37.84
Vance π
But set it off is a little deeper than a hood movie now.
21:41.30
Nandi K
Yeah, and I think Friday's a comedy, so it's very different.
21:41.78
Vance π
So, yes.
21:45.10
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
21:45.40
Vance π
Yes. I mean, i think it's the setting is literally in the hood, which is why I call it a hood movie. Okay, but like set it off is, it's a, obviously it's a feminist movie, right? But on top of that, it's about the,
21:54.71
Nandi K
obviously. women and male dominated fields.
21:57.75
Vance π
Period. But it's like about the like the the failings of systems and what they make people do. Right. So like it can be ah just a bank movie, but it's really all these women, except Cleo, were pushed to the brink.
22:11.48
Vance π
And that's why they did what they did. So like it was deeper than they just want to harm people.
22:13.88
Nandi K
Yeah.
22:15.92
Vance π
And like, you know, they didn't even set out to harm people. They needed money to get out of their circumstances.
22:20.70
Nandi K
Mm hmm.
22:21.50
Vance π
And then, like, old girl had to bring her daughter, her her baby to work, her son to work because she didn't have nobody to watch the kid. And then, you know, he got hurt and he got gripped up by the system, by Craig Mama.
22:29.37
Nandi K
Yeah.
22:30.50
Vance π
So it's about the failings of systems, but it's also funny and iconic.
22:36.06
Nandi K
Yeah, it's so iconic.
22:39.61
Vance π
Best cast. um What's it called? um Elise, what's her name?
22:44.40
Nandi K
Elise Neal.
22:45.69
Vance π
No, uh...
22:47.42
Nandi K
It is Elise Neal.
22:48.82
Vance π
Well, yes, but TT, Kimberly Elise.
22:54.10
Nandi K
Kimberly Elise, yes, yes, yes. Ah, yes, Kimberly Elise.
22:55.80
Vance π
Set it off, gave us, set it off, gave us Kimberly Elise.
22:59.53
Nandi K
Kimberly Elise, yeah.
22:59.74
Vance π
That was her first role. So like, yup, yup.
23:01.27
Nandi K
Wow, that's her first role. I didn't realize that.
23:05.24
Vance π
Stud Queen Latifah. We never get stud Queen Latifah.
23:08.97
Nandi K
Mind you, she was saying, I'm not gay when she was doing it.
23:09.03
Vance π
We got stud Queen Latifah once. I'm not gay, nigga.
23:12.60
Nandi K
She like, I ain't gay.
23:12.64
Vance π
Yeah.
23:13.94
Nandi K
When she was doing the press war, she was like, nigga, I ain't gay. was like, okay, nigga, you gay.
23:18.65
Vance π
if
23:20.47
Nandi K
You gay for shit.
23:20.75
Vance π
you're definitely gay i think gay um the the girlfriend got zero lines in that movie that's the the one note i got
23:29.62
Nandi K
Never spoke. That Nezuko treatment.
23:31.10
Vance π
yes
23:35.19
Vance π
uh okay that's that's my number two number two that was number two
23:38.20
Nandi K
Number two. Oh, my God. All right. We're at the number one choice. This is wild. um Okay. My number one movie is The Color Purple, the 1985 movie.
23:53.01
Nandi K
version it was directed by steven spielberg but otherwise Black novel by alice walker quincy jones did the score and it was the first time ever that john williams did not score a steven spielberg fan and i'm a big john williams fan is the correct choice whoopie goberg danny glover oprah winfrey's film debut yes
24:00.08
Vance π
Yup. Yup.
24:04.20
Vance π
Yup.
24:10.10
Vance π
and i was the right and i was the right choice for that
24:13.60
Aaron Rand Freeman
Thank
24:20.60
Vance π
was it oh yeah yeah oprah oprah yes yeah yes
24:23.64
Nandi K
Yes, her film debut.
24:25.20
Vance π
attracts that tracks she ate
24:26.58
Nandi K
It's such a great movie. It's a movie I quote on a regular basis. I probably quote that movie more than any other movie.
24:36.85
Nandi K
You and me will never part my dear.
24:39.06
Vance π
Never part Mati da yeah when When you're far ah
24:41.89
Nandi K
That's my, oh, listen, I love doing that when I'm about to leave.
24:47.48
Nandi K
Yeah, exactly. I'm on the train. You standing on the platform. I love it. Yeah, I love the color purple is just so Black and beautiful.
25:00.68
Nandi K
Also, Southern also has some of those same themes.
25:02.83
Vance π
Yeah Yep
25:04.85
Nandi K
It's like the piano lesson. It's right after slavery's ended and like...
25:09.30
Vance π
Yep.
25:10.39
Nandi K
Also, Black queer friendship, like, saving people's lives.
25:12.58
Vance π
Queerness. Yeah.
25:15.02
Nandi K
And, yeah, I just am so grateful for The Color Purple. it, I think, for me, out of what I had to choose today, best Black movie of all time.
25:27.99
Vance π
So I'm a complete fraud for not having color purple on my list at all. Cause I think it's well documented.
25:31.90
Nandi K
You are. i was surprised not to see it, but I was happy.
25:35.89
Vance π
It's well documented how much I love the color purple. ah So I second everything you said, and I regret that it's not on my list.
25:38.52
Nandi K
Yes.
25:43.03
Vance π
um I was, I think our personalities are coming through on this because was going for things that make me happy. Color purple doesn't make me happy. It does, but it doesn't. But anyway, all that to say.
25:54.36
Nandi K
You know I don't care about being happy that much.
25:54.55
Vance π
um ah Okay, my number one, the word.
26:03.34
Nandi K
Wow.
26:04.15
Vance π
The wood.
26:04.52
Nandi K
Niggas will nig. You know, niggas will nig, so that is what it is.
26:06.52
Vance π
i
26:09.26
Nandi K
Niggas are gonna nig, and that's what they gonna do.
26:10.30
Vance π
hi I love the wood. I moved to Charlotte, North Carolina when I was in high school and I felt like the opposite of Mike just going to a new place and just being like, what the hell is going on here?
26:25.36
Nandi K
Oh my God. Also, some more crossover cast here as well.
26:26.39
Vance π
and
26:28.98
Nandi K
Okay.
26:30.10
Vance π
Diggs, Omar Epps,
26:33.12
Nandi K
Yep.
26:33.83
Vance π
TJ, what's his last name? You know what I'm talking The tall nigga Elise Neal's in this, no?
26:37.94
Nandi K
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
26:42.71
Vance π
Who is the ah Yeah, the ex, the one that they went to go visit Sanaa Lathan Sanaa Lathan is the adult She she turned light-skinned when she got became an adult That was crazy um What's what's her name?
26:42.90
Nandi K
I think she is, yeah, yeah, yeah. Elise Neal's the girlfriend.
26:48.31
Nandi K
No, wait, is it? No, it's Anale. Hold on. Is it Elise Neal?
26:55.95
Nandi K
Bye. Stop. Actually, it's not Elyse Neal. It's Tamela Jones. Tamela Jones is her name.
27:01.34
Vance π
Ooh, I'm sorry, Ms.
27:02.78
Nandi K
Lisa Raye is also in it.
27:02.89
Vance π
Jones. Lisa Raye is Lisa as an adult, yes.
27:06.14
Nandi K
Yeah.
27:06.50
Vance π
ah But anyway, The Wood, it's about brotherhood. It's about friendship. It's about being a fish out of water. It's about gangs in LA and you don't know nothing.
27:16.94
Vance π
You fight the blood because you tried to fuck his sister out.
27:21.11
Nandi K
Oh, my God.
27:21.50
Vance π
And then you end up getting the sister later. I love that movie. I just, don't know. That movie just reminds me of being a young, dumb person out of my depth and everything. And just like showing up to a place and not know what's going on.
27:33.82
Vance π
um Yeah.
27:36.98
Nandi K
So good. All right. Well, that's your number one movie.
27:40.39
Vance π
That's my number one.
27:41.14
Nandi K
Wow. You think the wood is the greatest Black movie of all time.
27:45.79
Vance π
I'll hold it. yeah
27:47.06
Nandi K
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, well, as we said at the beginning of this, none of these movies were made after the year 2000, I don't think.
27:58.68
Vance π
Yes.
27:59.67
Nandi K
ah These movies are, yeah, The Wood is made in 1999, and I would guess that's the newest movie on either of our lists.
28:07.42
Vance π
Dang, that's true.
28:08.34
Nandi K
ah Yeah, the oldest movie on my list was 1995, but I did have some honorable mentions and we said for the honorable mentions, they had to be made within the past decade.
28:20.98
Nandi K
And for me, there was two immediate standouts. One, Moonlight, which just makes the cutoff, just makes that 10 year.
28:27.83
Vance π
Oh, yes. yeah yeah
28:31.22
Nandi K
And then I did have Get Out on my honorable mention list. It was between that and Nope. I wanted to have Jordan Peele represented. um
28:38.68
Vance π
love that so get out was actually on mine as well because i think um it ushered in a wave like a movement of a Black whore that like was not there um
28:39.70
Nandi K
But yeah, Get Out and Moonlight is my two. Those are my two honorable mentions for Made in the past decade.
28:47.64
Nandi K
Nice.
28:53.24
Nandi K
Yeah. There's a before and after. yeah
28:56.50
Vance π
Right, literally, right. So there's that. um I mean, we didn't say Tales from the Hood, but, you know, just throw that out there as far as Black horror. and Black horror.
29:05.72
Nandi K
that so oh That's probably my favorite Black horror movie of all time.
29:06.77
Vance π
Horror is not represented.
29:10.67
Nandi K
It's an anthology, too.
29:10.76
Vance π
It's the one of the best, and, like, the only horror is...
29:13.93
Nandi K
It's perfect.
29:16.16
Vance π
The one about the boy killing his stepdaddy was so good. what ah What's her name?
29:20.47
Nandi K
Ugh.
29:21.58
Vance π
Paula, what's her name?
29:22.26
Nandi K
Yeah. Oh, girl. Paula Patton?
29:24.44
Vance π
From Friday.
29:25.66
Nandi K
No. um No. um Regina King?
29:31.58
Vance π
No, the um the girlfriend from Friday.
29:32.25
Nandi K
oh
29:35.19
Nandi K
Oh, um yeah, her, I can't remember what her real name is.
29:35.45
Vance π
Yes, she was. Trixie Proud.
29:40.22
Vance π
Paula. shits Shit. Okay, whatever. She know she know our heart.
29:44.47
Nandi K
Anyway, that's great, but that definitely debt was not made in the past 10 years, so.
29:46.38
Vance π
Okay. get
29:50.52
Vance π
Right. Get Out is on my list. I'm going to say Jingle Jangle.
29:52.79
Nandi K
here
29:54.10
Vance π
For...
29:54.78
Nandi K
Okay, that's a good one. Yeah, Jingle Jingle was good.
29:56.54
Vance π
four Instant classic. It's a Christmas movie that centers Black people. It's magical. Fantastic. um The music is actually really good in Jingle Jangle and the dancing and they pull from the diaspora.
30:08.50
Nandi K
yeah yeah woof wow that was really tough but I'm proud of our list I do think you're right our personalities were shining through you're so happy and laughy and I'm like you can laugh but you can laugh at things that are not funny which to me the color purple is one of those things
30:09.46
Vance π
So there's like Caribbean music and stuff. So like, yeah, Jingle Jangle. Just watched it. It's great.
30:29.69
Vance π
Color purple. Yeah, yeah.
30:31.51
Nandi K
Yeah.
30:31.58
Vance π
It's it's it's kind of funny.
30:32.66
Nandi K
Even Boys in the Hood. All these movies, like, all Boys in the Hood, Waiting to Exhale, he's a good man, Savannah.
30:35.61
Vance π
Have humor.
30:40.54
Nandi K
He's not a good man. Like, that we joke.
30:42.81
Aaron Rand Freeman
Thank you.
30:43.40
Nandi K
We don't take nothing serious. And so that's, like, I think some of these movies, too, like, when you've seen them so many times, Coming to America, I can't believe I didn't have that on my list. Coming to America is another great one.
30:54.84
Nandi K
But, like, these ones that I saw, yeah.
30:55.40
Vance π
I got I got Harlem Knights, Crooklyn, Life, and Why the Fools Fall in Love. Those are the ones that did not make the cut. But like, yeah.
31:04.10
Nandi K
Those are also good.
31:05.98
Vance π
And Crooklyn, I just want to say I love Crooklyn. I don't.
31:10.51
Nandi K
such a wild movie.
31:10.59
Vance π
know
31:11.91
Nandi K
lie Speaking of movies I don't like but are good.
31:12.44
Vance π
I don't. You don't like Crooklyn?
31:16.18
Nandi K
no I'm saying it's a good movie but like the plot makes me upset.
31:18.87
Vance π
Yeah.
31:22.33
Nandi K
It's like she died. didn't have to die.
31:25.59
Vance π
who's a mama, Alfre, Alfre Woddard and she was an angel.
31:26.58
Nandi K
Yes! Alfre Woodard always dying.
31:32.15
Vance π
when I was a kid if she was an angel and she was talking, i was like, did she make it
31:32.31
Nandi K
me always died.
31:36.86
Nandi K
No.
31:39.67
Vance π
So did she die?
31:39.89
Nandi K
No. She didn't make it.
31:43.61
Vance π
Crazy.
31:45.72
Nandi K
All right. Well.
31:46.62
Vance π
All right. We're wrapping up.
31:48.54
Nandi K
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, i guess, guys, if you disagree, drop some comments and tell us what movies we missed on this list. And what are your top five Black movies of all time? Tell us in the comments. A big thanks to our producer and audio Adonis, Aaron Brand Freeman.
32:08.68
Vance π
I'm Vance Gowe, and you can find me on Instagram, if you like, at Sir Lance of thawt, and TikTok, if you can find me. Good luck.
32:17.62
Nandi K
And I'm Nandi Kay. You can find me on Instagram and threads at Nandi Kayyy. We'll see y'all.
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