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Hi Sarah.

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Thank you so much for being here.

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Hi Krista.

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I'm so excited to talk to you today.

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Yes, I'm so glad we were able to connect.

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Before we get started, I mean,

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there's so much drama and

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everything we can talk about.

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Can you just talk one a little bit about

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you and your awesome brand Honey fund?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So, I'm Sarah Margolis,

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co-founder and CEO of Honey Fund.

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We are almost 20 years old, but if

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you can believe that, next March

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will be our 20th anniversary.

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But Honey Fund is basically a wedding

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registry where couples can receive the

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gift of a honeymoon or any cash, that they

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need to start out together instead of, or

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in addition to traditional registry items.

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I love that.

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I think it's such a smart idea and I

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remember the first time I saw something

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like that, Years ago for a friend's

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wedding, and I was like, this is such

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a great idea because sometimes people

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live together for a while before

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getting married and they don't need

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the standard like dishes or towels.

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And so I think it's a fun way to

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contribute to, a fun time in your

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friends or family members' life.

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and so what kind of started the idea,

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what made you think of the idea behind

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it and what was the process for you?

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Like when you were like, oh,

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this could be something and

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kind of getting that together.

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Yeah.

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So, when I was getting married,

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planning my wedding in 2004, We

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didn't need any more household stuff.

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We lived in a one bedroom flat and we

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weren't ready for our forever home.

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So there was no point in

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accumulating China and, towels

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and silverware and all that.

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but we did really wanna go on

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a, pretty elaborate honeymoon.

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We were dreaming of a trip to Fiji,

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which turns out it's about halfway

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around the world from San Francisco.

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So expensive to get to.

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And, my fiance and I, at the time,

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we were just like, what could we do

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that would be different from, you

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know, a traditional wedding registry?

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I can't remember how, but I'd heard

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of the concept of a honeymoon registry

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and I kind of went online to like.

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Make sure I wasn't crazy and

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that was an actual thing.

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And it was, but it was, quite,

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antiquated that the options that were

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available were a little outdated and

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they were very, expensive to use.

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Like they wanted to charge, 9% in

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fees, which to us just seemed crazy.

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That would amount to a whole night on our

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honeymoon, we'd be paying in fees, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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we just put our heads together and

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kind of created our own makeshift

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honey fund on our wedding website.

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And our friends and

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family went crazy for it.

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They gave us more than $5,000.

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We took our dream honeymoon to Fiji and

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when we got back they were just raving

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about the idea, like, how cool, like,

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I wish we had this when we got married.

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You know, you guys should make

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this available to other couples.

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And we were already

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aspiring entrepreneurs.

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I had a background in marketing.

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He had a, software engineering degree.

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And so we built honeyfund.com

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about a year after our own wedding.

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And, Just started, we bought a few

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Google ads, for people searching

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for honeymoon registry, which there

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weren't that many searches at the time.

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We started signing up, you know, three,

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four people a day, and then it became

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a hundred and then became a thousand.

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we were featured on Martha

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Stewart Wedding's homepage,

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and our site totally crashed.

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Oh my God.

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Oh my God.

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We made it to the big time, like

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somebody at Martha Stewart noticed

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us and is like, this is a cool idea.

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We're gonna share this.

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So yeah, that's a big break.

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Yeah, that's amazing.

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And when you explain it that way, it's

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such an amazing concept and so important

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because I feel like there's still like

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some misunderstanding from people, like

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how it works or, and I don't know if

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you've seen these comments before, people

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saying like, well, I don't wanna pay for

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someone's honeymoon when you put it that

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way, it's like, if you love this person

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and you want to give them a gift, what?

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Does it matter if they spend it

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on sheets in their house or they

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spend it on dinner, on the beach?

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You know?

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Totally,

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totally.

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And as the gift of

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experiences has become more.

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Sort of commonplace and

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the gift of cash, right?

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With like GoFundMe and stuff.

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I think it's just kind of obvious

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that today's couples, you know, the

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way our economy has evolved, like

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you can get anything you need for

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your household at Walmart for 3 88.

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it's just cheap.

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know, you need, a wedding registry.

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You don't need your friends and

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family to shell out their hard

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earned cash to get you more stuff.

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Everybody has enough stuff now.

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but what we really crave and

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what I think wedding couples

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really need after the stress of

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planning a wedding isn't vacation.

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some memories that they'll always

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cherish and, 99.999% of any giver

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who's ever come through Honey Fund

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has said that was so much fun.

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What a cool way to give a wedding gift.

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I love that.

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And isn't there a stat out there,

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I might be making this up, but

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there's some kind of stat about like

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couples that do take a honeymoon and

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take the time to take a honeymoon.

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either like.

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Are married longer or they have happier

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marriages because they start off by

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focusing on an experience together.

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And I might be making that up, so

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maybe I should look it up later, but I

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remember hearing something about that.

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Because there's a lot of couples that,

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maybe they hold, off or they, aren't

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able to because of other things, which

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obviously there's some circumstances

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where you just can't take a honeymoon.

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I get it.

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They're expensive.

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You might not have Yeah.

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Getting time off

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work, family e emergencies.

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There's all kinds of reasons couples

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don't travel, but that stat is actually

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from H Fund's own research and the

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stat is that, couples who  take a

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honeymoon are more likely to be happily

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married more than a decade later.

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And, you know, when we first, did

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that research and kind of interpreted

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all that, it gave me goosebumps.

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I was like, oh my gosh.

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Like we've been doing something

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really fun and cool for, 15 years.

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But we didn't realize that it was actually

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related to, marital satisfaction and.

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As someone who's been through divorce with

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Honeymoon's co-founder and having to like,

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go through the hardest thing imaginable,

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that really like sunk in for me.

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And I was like, I wanna make happily

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ever after the reason why we exist.

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And so we really started thinking

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about like, how do we not only get

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couples on that first honeymoon,

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but keep them traveling together

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throughout their married lives so

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that they can, benefit from the

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relationship skill of travel, right?

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So like mm-hmm.

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When couples take time away from the

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stress of everyday life, when they take

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time to focus on each other, quality time,

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time to dream, time to just breathe out.

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They have better relationships,

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stronger relationships.

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And so, we just launched anniversary

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fund last year so that, this year

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actually, so that couples could

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continue to travel together.

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The couples who miss their honeymoons

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could have that opportunity to

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celebrate a master anniversary

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with the help of friends and family

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and make that honeymoon happen.

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I love that.

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that would be like my advice for people,

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again, if it's feasible for people,

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but like to plan when you're planning

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your wedding, to plan that honeymoon.

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Even just get it on the books,

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even if it's not right away.

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Having that date, it's 'cause it's

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something to one look forward to

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after the wedding that doesn't

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involve anybody but your partner.

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And two, it's like, it's those memories

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right away as a married couple.

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And, I feel like it really, like

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we were talking about, it's like

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we have all this stuff, right?

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We just keep accumulating stuff

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year after year and that just

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really brings home the idea of

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experiences over more things, right?

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A hundred percent.

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And so I just, I feel like it's so

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important and the people I knew, I

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knew different couples that year.

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They were like, oh, we're gonna

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wait till next year to do a

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trip or we're gonna do this.

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And then before you know it,

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some of those couples never

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ended up taking one because Yeah.

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Whether they decided start having kids

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or they move, or other things come up

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and that things are gonna always come up.

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So I think it's a way to like kind

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of prioritize your relationship

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and being like, okay, this week

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we're setting aside our honeymoon

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and that's what we're gonna do.

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And also it's like this great

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opportunity to like get time off

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that like nobody can say no to.

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Like no boss is gonna be like, no, I'm not

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giving you time off for your honeymoon.

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You know what I mean?

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Like Yeah.

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It's kind of a freebie, so you

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gotta take it while you can.

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but yeah, I really agree that,

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Starting your marriage off, being able

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to like decompress after the wedding

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planning, which is really stressful.

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I mean, the big day is awesome,

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but sometimes you're just

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kind of in shock, right?

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And the next day you're like,

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whoa, what just happened?

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And you just need a minute to

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collect yourself before you jump

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right back into work and everything.

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I think it's really important.

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Yes.

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Yeah, totally.

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you hear of that, like, this didn't

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happen to me, but I know a lot of brides

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where they almost, depression's gonna be

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a really strong word, but a lot of them

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felt like, bumped after their wedding.

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Yes.

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Because they put so much stress and you

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know, they spend weeks and months and Yes.

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Planning, you're around family and

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friends all the time doing this fun event

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and then the day after they're like,

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ah, I have nothing to look forward to.

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And Okay.

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Which is such a sad way to look at it.

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And like, that's why I like always

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tell people too, I'm like, it's

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about starting the marriage.

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Like yeah.

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It's not all our focus on that one day.

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Right.

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But I think the honeymoon can really

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help with it too, because that's

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that thing to look forward to of

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like starting your life, yeah.

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Together and just no

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responsibilities on the trip.

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Just be Yeah,

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I totally agree with you.

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I think there's a lot of, bride

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specifically who mourn the loss of

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the wedding planning part of their

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lives and the, joy and the comradery

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and the community and everything

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around wedding planning and many of

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those actually become winning mentors.

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Mm-hmm.

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So that they can like, stick with it.

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It was just something they

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fell in love with and they

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don't wanna to be gone anymore.

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So.

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Yeah.

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I do think a lot of people find their

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passion through wedding planning.

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Like, they're like, oh, I love doing this.

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Or they might find their hatred

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about planning stuff, so they're

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like, get me out of here.

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So.

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Before Honey Fund.

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you worked in marketing for

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a while, you said mm-hmm.

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I think you also said customer service.

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So how do you think those experiences

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helped you prepare for this business

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and ultimately launch this business?

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Oh, that's a great question that nobody

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has ever asked me before, Krista.

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Oh, wow.

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I thank you for that totally new question.

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marketing was something that

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I fell into after college.

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I actually studied music as my

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undergraduate degree with a minor

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in German, so it was a very like,

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just non-committal major, you

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know, like I didn't know what

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I wanted to be when I grew up.

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I had a math and science background

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in high school, but I didn't wanna be

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like, you know, an engineer or like a

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scientist and, when I got my first job in

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marketing, I just fell in love with it.

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I loved the intersection of

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math and analytics with like,

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customer psychology basically.

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and so that came really naturally to me.

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And so when we started Honeyfund,

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I was able to bring, I went on to

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get a master's degree in business

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with an emphasis in marketing.

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So I was able to bring all that

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sort of passion and training to, and

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my experience planning a wedding.

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So my understanding of the

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wedding industry too, to

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bear in creating honey fund.

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prior to that I had been in customer

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service, and there's something about

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customer service that I just love.

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It's the idea that, you have an

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opportunity to delight someone who's

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frustrated with your brand to turn

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them around, to make them an advocate

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because you took such good care of

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them to take full accountability

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for any failure that they had.

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that comes really, really easily to me.

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and I just love the, like, the interaction

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and the opportunity to serve people.

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so I think all of that came

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together to make Honey Fund.

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it was just all about like, what would

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I want, do I think would help other

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couples, like have a great experience

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and dealing with brides and money.

393
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Those are two of the trickiest things

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that a business can, deal with.

395
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but we've been successful I think because

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we have a really clear vision about

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what it is we're trying to offer people.

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A commitment to trying to be fee free

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as much as possible, and a commitment to

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just radically awesome customer service.

401
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Yeah, I love that.

402
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And so then you guys took your idea,

403
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or you were already a business, but

404
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then you guys went over to Shark Tank

405
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and you were pretty successful there.

406
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So what was that story like and how

407
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did that kind of all come about?

408
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Yeah, so we were just

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plugging away in 2012.

410
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I think we'd done about 200

411
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million in gifting at that point.

412
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this was six years after we launched.

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We had just started hiring

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people for the business.

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We, had some customer service, folks

416
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and we're starting to hire like

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a designer and things like that.

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but prior to that, we'd run it

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all ourselves, just two of us.

420
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and we got an email from Shark Tank.

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And I'm not a fan of reality television.

422
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I don't watch it for the most part.

423
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so I really didn't know much about the

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show, and my first gut instinct was like,

425
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I don't wanna be on a reality TV show.

426
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Like that just sounds like a nightmare.

427
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but once we kind of dug into what

428
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the show was a little bit more, we

429
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were like, oh, this is interesting.

430
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So they invited us to apply to the show.

431
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They, somebody in casting knew

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somebody on the crew who had given

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a honey fun gift to a friend and was

434
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like, that was so cool, you know?

435
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Mm-hmm.

436
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And talked about us to casting.

437
00:12:06,234 --> 00:12:07,854
and they were looking for companies in

438
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season six that were a little bit more

439
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established, than like, your mom and pop,

440
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you know, cupcake company or whatever.

441
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Yeah.

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So we applied and we got cast and we

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walked into the tank in June of 20 14.

444
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we did a deal with Kevin O'Leary.

445
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We actually got three offers,

446
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one from Robert, one from

447
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Barbara, and one from Kevin.

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And we took Kevin's offer and,

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closed the deal ahead of the

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airing date of October, 2014.

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And, still partner with Kevin today.

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he's been a great, asset and just a

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fan of the brand and the customers.

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The wedding sort of, he loves love.

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You know, he actually officiated a

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wedding for us on Zoom during COVID.

457
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We did like a wedding rescue

458
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giveaway where Mr. Wonderful

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will like officiate your wedding.

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Oh my gosh.

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And people sharing their COVID

462
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cancellation stories and, it was cool.

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He's been a really fun partner.

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Wow.

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Oh, I love that.

466
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That's awesome.

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so what do you think your,

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biggest challenge has been,

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either like with starting up

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the business or now to this day?

471
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Like it.

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Getting the business out there

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or explaining it to new couples.

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what do you think that kind of

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challenge or hurdle has been?

476
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Oh my gosh.

477
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I mean, how much time do we have, Krista?

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it's been a 20 year journey.

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I would say the biggest challenge

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in the beginning was figuring

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out the monetization model.

482
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Like we just wanted couples to be

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able to get money for their honeymoon

484
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and not have to pay any fees.

485
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there's not a lot of like revenue

486
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for a business and that model.

487
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Right, right.

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finding a way to continue to offer

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either the lowest fees or no fees,

490
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to couples while still being able

491
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to, earn revenue and, employ a

492
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team, was a very, very long journey.

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And we actually just kind of

494
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cracked the code on it this year,

495
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with the honey fund MasterCard.

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So you can now, receive the gifts.

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You pay no transaction fees when

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the gifts come into your wallet.

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And then when you are ready to, cash

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out your fund, you can move the money

501
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to a prepaid MasterCard and spend it.

502
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Anywhere around the globe that

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MasterCard's accepted for no fees at all.

504
00:14:02,057 --> 00:14:03,078
So that was a big deal,

505
00:14:03,128 --> 00:14:04,208
that was like huge.

506
00:14:04,418 --> 00:14:05,931
and then, couples can also cash out

507
00:14:05,931 --> 00:14:07,311
to PayPal, Venmo for a small fee,

508
00:14:07,311 --> 00:14:09,021
but it's the lowest in the industry.

509
00:14:09,021 --> 00:14:11,364
And again, our commitment is just, we

510
00:14:11,364 --> 00:14:12,984
want couples to get every cent that

511
00:14:12,984 --> 00:14:14,664
they got from their wedding guests

512
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and put it towards their honeymoon

513
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or whatever their savings goal is.

514
00:14:18,398 --> 00:14:18,924
I love that.

515
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So that was a challenge.

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the other one I would say,

517
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biggest by far, well two that

518
00:14:24,150 --> 00:14:26,420
came back to back first our split.

519
00:14:26,470 --> 00:14:27,707
and when Josh exited the

520
00:14:27,707 --> 00:14:29,147
business, that was really hard.

521
00:14:29,247 --> 00:14:31,614
and, just emotionally difficult.

522
00:14:31,860 --> 00:14:33,715
Transitioning the team, or

523
00:14:33,775 --> 00:14:35,125
notifying really the team and

524
00:14:35,125 --> 00:14:36,805
kind of helping them make the

525
00:14:36,805 --> 00:14:38,769
transition to new tech leadership.

526
00:14:39,015 --> 00:14:41,055
and then right after that, COVID hit and

527
00:14:41,085 --> 00:14:43,395
our revenue dropped off a cliff overnight.

528
00:14:43,435 --> 00:14:45,055
like weddings and honeymoons canceled.

529
00:14:45,275 --> 00:14:48,455
but in the end, that was a catalyst

530
00:14:48,455 --> 00:14:50,625
for growth for us because we went

531
00:14:50,625 --> 00:14:52,605
out and did a crowdfunding raise.

532
00:14:52,705 --> 00:14:55,505
and our past couples and wedding

533
00:14:55,595 --> 00:14:57,819
guests who've given on the platform

534
00:14:58,015 --> 00:15:00,519
our followers, Kevin's followers all

535
00:15:00,519 --> 00:15:03,379
together, bought in for a $1.5 million

536
00:15:03,409 --> 00:15:06,512
and, helped us grow the company from,

537
00:15:06,612 --> 00:15:08,875
the wreckage of COVID to, what we're

538
00:15:08,875 --> 00:15:11,215
doing today, which is 120,000 couples

539
00:15:11,215 --> 00:15:12,985
a year and $80 million in gifting.

540
00:15:13,285 --> 00:15:14,515
Wow, that's amazing.

541
00:15:15,085 --> 00:15:16,735
I'm sure like COVID was such

542
00:15:16,735 --> 00:15:18,235
a challenging time for so many

543
00:15:18,235 --> 00:15:19,705
businesses, and I can only imagine

544
00:15:19,705 --> 00:15:21,202
when it comes to like weddings.

545
00:15:21,202 --> 00:15:22,282
Like we had a few different friends

546
00:15:22,282 --> 00:15:23,632
that were supposed to get married that

547
00:15:23,632 --> 00:15:26,295
year and venues just randomly closed

548
00:15:26,295 --> 00:15:28,455
and they wouldn't hear any news and

549
00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:29,989
vendors weren't really sure what was

550
00:15:29,989 --> 00:15:32,059
going on, so I Oh, it was so awful.

551
00:15:32,149 --> 00:15:34,682
Yeah, it was, I mean, that so stressful.

552
00:15:34,682 --> 00:15:36,972
So many vendors and just wedding

553
00:15:36,972 --> 00:15:38,532
related companies in general,

554
00:15:38,732 --> 00:15:40,119
revenue just disappeared.

555
00:15:40,119 --> 00:15:41,229
And some of them were on the

556
00:15:41,229 --> 00:15:43,069
hook for, money that they spent

557
00:15:43,069 --> 00:15:44,329
with venues or whatever else.

558
00:15:44,329 --> 00:15:45,079
It was awful.

559
00:15:45,327 --> 00:15:45,925
Yeah.

560
00:15:46,045 --> 00:15:46,825
Oh my gosh.

561
00:15:47,087 --> 00:15:48,437
before we get to, I'm gonna do rapid

562
00:15:48,437 --> 00:15:50,767
fire next, but, what is your main

563
00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,497
piece of advice for brides, grooms,

564
00:15:53,497 --> 00:15:55,070
anyone getting married right now when

565
00:15:55,070 --> 00:15:58,370
it comes to setting up a registry?

566
00:15:58,580 --> 00:15:59,507
what is your biggest

567
00:15:59,567 --> 00:16:00,797
tip, or piece of advice?

568
00:16:01,265 --> 00:16:02,895
I would say like, don't be afraid to

569
00:16:02,895 --> 00:16:04,695
do a cash registry or a honeymoon fund.

570
00:16:04,695 --> 00:16:06,195
I know some couples are still a

571
00:16:06,195 --> 00:16:07,965
little bit more traditional about it.

572
00:16:08,425 --> 00:16:10,003
Or worry that their friends and

573
00:16:10,003 --> 00:16:12,118
family won't, be open to the idea.

574
00:16:12,118 --> 00:16:14,214
But like I said, everybody who's ever

575
00:16:14,214 --> 00:16:16,044
used Honey fund, their friends and family

576
00:16:16,044 --> 00:16:17,994
went crazy for it and like loved giving

577
00:16:18,024 --> 00:16:19,974
the gifts and raped about the idea.

578
00:16:20,174 --> 00:16:21,984
So, don't be afraid to do that.

579
00:16:22,147 --> 00:16:23,831
On the flip side, I think there's

580
00:16:23,861 --> 00:16:25,511
a generation of couples coming in

581
00:16:25,511 --> 00:16:28,028
now that are, a little bit too,

582
00:16:28,088 --> 00:16:29,978
like ready to ask for cash and just

583
00:16:29,978 --> 00:16:31,898
slap in their Venmo QR code on their

584
00:16:31,898 --> 00:16:33,488
invitation, and they're like, whoa,

585
00:16:33,488 --> 00:16:35,228
okay, we gotta hold our horses here.

586
00:16:35,228 --> 00:16:36,831
This is like from an etiquette

587
00:16:36,831 --> 00:16:38,601
standpoint, like a little sticky.

588
00:16:38,861 --> 00:16:39,841
and we, built Honey Fund to

589
00:16:39,841 --> 00:16:41,371
really take all of those etiquette

590
00:16:41,371 --> 00:16:43,044
considerations into account.

591
00:16:43,044 --> 00:16:44,498
So, you know, your friends and family

592
00:16:44,498 --> 00:16:45,518
really feel like they're shopping

593
00:16:45,518 --> 00:16:47,558
from a registry and not just dumping

594
00:16:47,558 --> 00:16:49,028
cash into your wallet, right?

595
00:16:49,028 --> 00:16:50,508
So, we think Honey Fun strikes

596
00:16:50,508 --> 00:16:52,098
the sweet spot between those two

597
00:16:52,098 --> 00:16:53,568
and, friends and family, they

598
00:16:53,568 --> 00:16:54,858
just wanna get you what you want.

599
00:16:54,863 --> 00:16:55,968
You really said it at the

600
00:16:55,968 --> 00:16:57,198
beginning of the episode.

601
00:16:57,607 --> 00:16:59,028
Why wouldn't they wanna support

602
00:16:59,028 --> 00:17:00,408
your dreams and get excited

603
00:17:00,408 --> 00:17:01,908
about funding your trip?

604
00:17:01,968 --> 00:17:03,068
so yeah, that would be my

605
00:17:03,068 --> 00:17:03,968
biggest piece of advice.

606
00:17:03,968 --> 00:17:05,138
Don't be afraid to ask for what

607
00:17:05,138 --> 00:17:06,434
you want and you, it's not fun.

608
00:17:06,464 --> 00:17:07,694
'cause we'll make it easy for you to

609
00:17:07,694 --> 00:17:09,494
do it in an etiquette, approved way.

610
00:17:09,774 --> 00:17:10,044
yeah.

611
00:17:10,044 --> 00:17:10,644
For sure.

612
00:17:10,714 --> 00:17:12,634
I totally agree with what you say because

613
00:17:12,856 --> 00:17:15,378
I feel like still to this day, it should

614
00:17:15,378 --> 00:17:17,988
not be an expectation that someone's gonna

615
00:17:17,988 --> 00:17:19,788
just hand you cash or hand you money.

616
00:17:19,971 --> 00:17:20,421
Absolutely.

617
00:17:20,481 --> 00:17:22,461
People, of course, most people in

618
00:17:22,461 --> 00:17:24,198
your, family and friends want to

619
00:17:24,198 --> 00:17:25,458
give some kind of wedding gift.

620
00:17:25,488 --> 00:17:25,578
Mm-hmm.

621
00:17:25,764 --> 00:17:27,624
I've never personally, seen a

622
00:17:27,629 --> 00:17:29,239
Venmo thing on an invite, but I

623
00:17:29,239 --> 00:17:30,709
have heard of a lot of people and

624
00:17:30,709 --> 00:17:31,939
like, stories people have sent me.

625
00:17:31,944 --> 00:17:32,354
Mm-hmm.

626
00:17:32,434 --> 00:17:32,514
And

627
00:17:32,514 --> 00:17:33,769
I've seen a lot of stories about

628
00:17:34,029 --> 00:17:36,663
high expectations of like, I'm the

629
00:17:36,663 --> 00:17:38,853
bride, give me your money, give gifts.

630
00:17:38,853 --> 00:17:38,943
Right.

631
00:17:39,149 --> 00:17:39,979
And I feel like there's

632
00:17:39,979 --> 00:17:41,299
definitely a right way to do it.

633
00:17:41,304 --> 00:17:41,434
Mm-hmm.

634
00:17:41,504 --> 00:17:42,021
Because like.

635
00:17:42,408 --> 00:17:43,772
I remember when I got engaged, I was

636
00:17:43,772 --> 00:17:46,142
like, I'm not, I don't expect anything.

637
00:17:46,142 --> 00:17:47,974
But so many family friends were reaching

638
00:17:47,974 --> 00:17:49,911
out, saying like, send me a registry.

639
00:17:49,911 --> 00:17:51,351
Like before I even did it, they were

640
00:17:51,351 --> 00:17:52,686
like, oh, I can't wait to, you know?

641
00:17:52,746 --> 00:17:53,030
Mm-hmm.

642
00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,014
What are you looking for?

643
00:17:54,014 --> 00:17:57,044
And so people will want to, but yeah,

644
00:17:57,044 --> 00:17:58,784
it's, there's a right time and a place

645
00:17:58,784 --> 00:18:00,434
of like how, how to do it, for sure.

646
00:18:00,494 --> 00:18:00,854
Yeah.

647
00:18:01,136 --> 00:18:01,254
Yeah.

648
00:18:01,254 --> 00:18:02,184
And I think the biggest horror

649
00:18:02,184 --> 00:18:04,824
stories around gifting come from.

650
00:18:05,067 --> 00:18:06,945
A sense that the couple isn't

651
00:18:06,945 --> 00:18:08,715
grateful or they expect you to spend

652
00:18:08,715 --> 00:18:09,975
a certain amount of money to cover

653
00:18:09,975 --> 00:18:11,565
the cost of your plate or something.

654
00:18:11,565 --> 00:18:13,199
And I say like, first of all,

655
00:18:13,199 --> 00:18:15,119
never spend money that you aren't a

656
00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:16,649
hundred percent comfortable spending.

657
00:18:16,649 --> 00:18:18,389
Never plan a wedding that you feel like if

658
00:18:18,389 --> 00:18:20,249
we don't get this certain number of gifts,

659
00:18:20,249 --> 00:18:21,629
we're not gonna be able to cover this.

660
00:18:21,629 --> 00:18:22,769
Like, that's not okay.

661
00:18:23,019 --> 00:18:24,858
if you need money to plan your wedding,

662
00:18:24,888 --> 00:18:26,958
you can do wedding funding on honey fund,

663
00:18:26,988 --> 00:18:29,013
you could add some things to your registry

664
00:18:29,013 --> 00:18:31,083
that are gonna help you, like flowers or,

665
00:18:31,083 --> 00:18:32,793
you know, open bar or whatever the costs

666
00:18:32,793 --> 00:18:35,119
are, and invite your closer in circle

667
00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:36,619
to help fund those, because those are

668
00:18:36,619 --> 00:18:37,759
the people that are gonna help you cover

669
00:18:37,759 --> 00:18:39,139
the cost to your wedding anyway, right?

670
00:18:40,143 --> 00:18:41,939
and then, when it comes to, like,

671
00:18:42,222 --> 00:18:45,563
gifting, strict etiquette says that's

672
00:18:45,563 --> 00:18:47,363
at the discretion of the giver, that

673
00:18:47,363 --> 00:18:49,163
you should never expect anything.

674
00:18:49,163 --> 00:18:50,585
And if you do, It's not gonna be

675
00:18:50,585 --> 00:18:51,638
good for your relationship with

676
00:18:51,638 --> 00:18:53,208
your closest friends and family.

677
00:18:53,208 --> 00:18:54,318
People love you the most.

678
00:18:54,318 --> 00:18:55,585
it's gonna put a sour taste in

679
00:18:55,585 --> 00:18:56,815
their mouths and you don't wanna do

680
00:18:56,815 --> 00:18:58,825
that to everyone you love at once.

681
00:19:00,133 --> 00:19:01,885
don't look at people as

682
00:19:01,885 --> 00:19:03,255
dollar signs at your wedding.

683
00:19:03,255 --> 00:19:04,982
Look at them as people, if you'd

684
00:19:04,982 --> 00:19:06,845
rather have someone there because

685
00:19:06,850 --> 00:19:07,985
they're gonna give you a big check,

686
00:19:08,015 --> 00:19:09,265
then you shouldn't be inviting them.

687
00:19:09,472 --> 00:19:10,541
And I feel like people get

688
00:19:10,541 --> 00:19:11,681
lost in that a lot of times.

689
00:19:11,681 --> 00:19:13,078
Like they think about like, oh, I

690
00:19:13,078 --> 00:19:14,338
want a big wedding 'cause of this.

691
00:19:14,338 --> 00:19:15,238
And it's like, no.

692
00:19:15,238 --> 00:19:16,758
Like you should be more excited

693
00:19:16,758 --> 00:19:19,368
to have them there versus a gift.

694
00:19:19,608 --> 00:19:19,908
Yeah.

695
00:19:20,068 --> 00:19:20,638
for sure.

696
00:19:20,819 --> 00:19:22,401
I actually just read, I feel like I

697
00:19:22,401 --> 00:19:23,601
was either a Reddit story or someone

698
00:19:23,601 --> 00:19:26,168
sent it to me about getting invited

699
00:19:26,168 --> 00:19:28,408
to a wedding where it clearly stated

700
00:19:28,408 --> 00:19:32,154
on the invitation it said, you are

701
00:19:32,154 --> 00:19:34,104
required to pay for your plate.

702
00:19:34,369 --> 00:19:36,161
And it gave the cost of the plate

703
00:19:36,383 --> 00:19:37,921
and they, and it was like all

704
00:19:37,921 --> 00:19:39,241
these really strict rules and

705
00:19:39,241 --> 00:19:40,621
that was one where I was like, oh,

706
00:19:40,681 --> 00:19:41,071
okay,

707
00:19:41,191 --> 00:19:41,821
that's

708
00:19:42,049 --> 00:19:42,474
okay.

709
00:19:42,504 --> 00:19:42,564
So

710
00:19:42,564 --> 00:19:42,864
much.

711
00:19:42,864 --> 00:19:43,389
We're getting a little, a

712
00:19:43,389 --> 00:19:44,604
little forward with that.

713
00:19:44,843 --> 00:19:46,236
To me, that sounds like, one of

714
00:19:46,236 --> 00:19:47,916
those mock weddings they do for

715
00:19:47,916 --> 00:19:49,176
like wedding vendors or something.

716
00:19:49,176 --> 00:19:49,896
It doesn't sound like

717
00:19:49,896 --> 00:19:50,766
a real wedding to me.

718
00:19:50,766 --> 00:19:52,446
I can't even imagine actually.

719
00:19:52,506 --> 00:19:54,799
Yeah, putting that on there.

720
00:19:54,979 --> 00:19:56,373
and there's so many ways to make

721
00:19:56,373 --> 00:19:58,359
a wedding happen at any budget.

722
00:19:58,359 --> 00:19:59,619
We have actually a lot of templates

723
00:19:59,619 --> 00:20:01,239
for low cost, a thousand dollars,

724
00:20:01,269 --> 00:20:03,189
$5,000 weddings on Honeyman's blog.

725
00:20:03,386 --> 00:20:05,036
you can have a wedding in a park

726
00:20:05,126 --> 00:20:06,596
on a Thursday afternoon with an

727
00:20:06,596 --> 00:20:08,456
officiant and you know, your 20

728
00:20:08,456 --> 00:20:10,683
closest friends and family and a cake.

729
00:20:10,743 --> 00:20:12,726
And you know it's not about

730
00:20:12,926 --> 00:20:14,236
all the pomp and circumstance.

731
00:20:14,236 --> 00:20:15,886
It's not about the decorations

732
00:20:15,886 --> 00:20:16,966
or the number of people or

733
00:20:16,966 --> 00:20:17,896
the chicken or the fish.

734
00:20:17,926 --> 00:20:20,389
It's about you and your person

735
00:20:20,676 --> 00:20:22,123
really being authentic about

736
00:20:22,123 --> 00:20:23,593
like, what can we afford to spend?

737
00:20:23,653 --> 00:20:24,763
What kind of vibe do we want?

738
00:20:24,939 --> 00:20:26,159
Who do we want to be there?

739
00:20:26,634 --> 00:20:27,684
Ultimately, like you said,

740
00:20:27,684 --> 00:20:28,584
it's about the marriage.

741
00:20:28,584 --> 00:20:30,144
It's not about the one big day.

742
00:20:30,144 --> 00:20:31,284
And if you're only doing it before

743
00:20:31,284 --> 00:20:33,074
the day, then you know, you kind

744
00:20:33,074 --> 00:20:34,214
of have to ask yourself like,

745
00:20:34,244 --> 00:20:35,714
what am I gonna do when it's over?

746
00:20:35,744 --> 00:20:36,524
Like, do I wanna be

747
00:20:36,524 --> 00:20:37,484
married to this person?

748
00:20:37,484 --> 00:20:39,038
You know, those are the tough questions.

749
00:20:39,488 --> 00:20:39,548
Yeah.

750
00:20:39,548 --> 00:20:40,688
When it comes to getting married.

751
00:20:40,868 --> 00:20:42,044
Yeah, absolutely.

752
00:20:42,044 --> 00:20:43,566
Sit together and go through

753
00:20:43,851 --> 00:20:45,141
what's most important for you.

754
00:20:45,141 --> 00:20:46,731
What do you wanna spend more money on?

755
00:20:46,821 --> 00:20:47,091
Yeah.

756
00:20:47,278 --> 00:20:48,304
cause I just did like a rapid

757
00:20:48,304 --> 00:20:49,504
fire recently that was like,

758
00:20:49,663 --> 00:20:51,551
what's more important for like me?

759
00:20:51,551 --> 00:20:52,844
It was like the dress or

760
00:20:52,844 --> 00:20:53,924
spend more on the honeymoon.

761
00:20:53,924 --> 00:20:55,514
I was like, honeymoon all the way.

762
00:20:55,544 --> 00:20:56,024
Oh yeah.

763
00:20:56,124 --> 00:20:57,894
I didn't even get a super expensive dress.

764
00:20:57,894 --> 00:20:59,814
I was like, I knew wear for one day.

765
00:20:59,874 --> 00:20:59,934
Yeah.

766
00:21:00,059 --> 00:21:02,121
I'd rather go go owl out on the honeymoon.

767
00:21:02,271 --> 00:21:02,571
Yeah.

768
00:21:02,841 --> 00:21:03,771
I actually sold my

769
00:21:03,771 --> 00:21:05,001
dress after the wedding.

770
00:21:05,031 --> 00:21:05,571
'cause I was like, I don't

771
00:21:05,571 --> 00:21:06,831
have a place to store this.

772
00:21:06,993 --> 00:21:07,251
You know?

773
00:21:07,251 --> 00:21:08,601
It's not like it was some

774
00:21:08,601 --> 00:21:10,098
dream dress that, I loved it.

775
00:21:10,098 --> 00:21:11,208
It was beautiful and I've got all the

776
00:21:11,208 --> 00:21:13,044
pictures, but like, let some other

777
00:21:13,044 --> 00:21:14,574
bride enjoy it for a good price.

778
00:21:14,574 --> 00:21:16,404
You know, that was kind of my, yeah.

779
00:21:16,404 --> 00:21:16,414
Yeah.

780
00:21:16,414 --> 00:21:16,739
It's like, I

781
00:21:16,944 --> 00:21:17,454
love that.

782
00:21:17,544 --> 00:21:18,984
Re reduce, reuse, recycle kind

783
00:21:18,984 --> 00:21:20,424
of California vibes over here.

784
00:21:21,504 --> 00:21:21,834
Yes.

785
00:21:21,834 --> 00:21:22,494
I love that.

786
00:21:22,683 --> 00:21:23,548
I should honestly do that with

787
00:21:23,548 --> 00:21:24,748
some of my bridesmaid dresses.

788
00:21:24,748 --> 00:21:26,008
I have so many bridesmaid

789
00:21:26,308 --> 00:21:26,488
outfits.

790
00:21:26,488 --> 00:21:26,878
There you go.

791
00:21:26,908 --> 00:21:27,388
Oh my gosh.

792
00:21:27,388 --> 00:21:27,778
Right.

793
00:21:27,838 --> 00:21:29,337
I've used them for Halloween costumes.

794
00:21:29,907 --> 00:21:30,477
That's a great idea.

795
00:21:30,702 --> 00:21:31,737
You know what the funny thing is

796
00:21:31,737 --> 00:21:34,171
I've given away, so I've been in 10

797
00:21:34,171 --> 00:21:37,144
weddings and I've given away two, and

798
00:21:37,264 --> 00:21:39,064
I was literally looking for one this

799
00:21:39,064 --> 00:21:40,714
year and it's one I got rid of and

800
00:21:40,714 --> 00:21:42,214
I was like, darn it for Halloween,

801
00:21:42,214 --> 00:21:43,354
because I was gonna, Belinda.

802
00:21:43,572 --> 00:21:44,154
Oh.

803
00:21:44,154 --> 00:21:45,594
I was like, oh, I had a pink dress.

804
00:21:45,594 --> 00:21:47,064
And I was like, that would've perfect.

805
00:21:47,064 --> 00:21:47,904
I don't know where it is.

806
00:21:47,904 --> 00:21:48,834
I think I got rid of it.

807
00:21:49,164 --> 00:21:49,884
Oh man.

808
00:21:49,934 --> 00:21:51,481
I wanna offer one more piece of advice.

809
00:21:51,481 --> 00:21:52,621
This came up recently.

810
00:21:52,681 --> 00:21:52,771
Mm-hmm.

811
00:21:52,861 --> 00:21:53,562
in the news.

812
00:21:53,722 --> 00:21:54,729
People like wonder, like

813
00:21:54,729 --> 00:21:55,629
why do I need a honey fund?

814
00:21:55,629 --> 00:21:56,799
Can't I just have like a honeymoon

815
00:21:56,799 --> 00:21:58,746
contribution box like on the day of

816
00:21:58,746 --> 00:22:00,126
my event and just have people bring

817
00:22:00,156 --> 00:22:01,716
cash or checks or whatever, which is

818
00:22:01,716 --> 00:22:03,889
like, a totally legitimate question,

819
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,212
but it's not very secure and there are

820
00:22:06,212 --> 00:22:08,162
plenty of stories of couples having all

821
00:22:08,162 --> 00:22:10,382
their cash gifts stolen at the wedding.

822
00:22:10,542 --> 00:22:12,586
so, making it available to your

823
00:22:12,586 --> 00:22:13,786
friends and family ahead of time.

824
00:22:13,786 --> 00:22:15,276
First of all, make sure that

825
00:22:15,276 --> 00:22:17,046
everybody's got access to the

826
00:22:17,046 --> 00:22:18,426
gift, whether they can come or not.

827
00:22:18,626 --> 00:22:20,309
Second of all, it's secure.

828
00:22:20,529 --> 00:22:21,362
you're gonna get the money for

829
00:22:21,362 --> 00:22:22,592
free anyway, so it's not like you

830
00:22:22,592 --> 00:22:24,302
have to try to skirt the system.

831
00:22:24,519 --> 00:22:26,306
and you can put a QR code on your, gift

832
00:22:26,306 --> 00:22:28,376
table for people who hadn't gotten it,

833
00:22:28,506 --> 00:22:30,626
in ahead of time to, send you a little

834
00:22:30,626 --> 00:22:31,766
bit something through your honey fund.

835
00:22:32,069 --> 00:22:33,342
I love that for someone like

836
00:22:33,342 --> 00:22:35,562
me, I love when couples have one

837
00:22:35,562 --> 00:22:38,062
because I don't carry checks.

838
00:22:38,266 --> 00:22:38,452
Yeah.

839
00:22:38,457 --> 00:22:41,582
So I, yeah, I'm such a, I don't know if

840
00:22:41,582 --> 00:22:43,322
I'm, I think I'm like a middle millennial.

841
00:22:43,322 --> 00:22:43,952
Maybe I'm younger,

842
00:22:43,952 --> 00:22:44,882
millennial, I don't know.

843
00:22:45,096 --> 00:22:46,656
But I don't carry checks.

844
00:22:46,656 --> 00:22:48,156
So when there's a wedding coming up, it's

845
00:22:48,156 --> 00:22:49,476
like I have to make an extra trip to the

846
00:22:49,476 --> 00:22:51,386
bank, or I get a bunch of cash out and

847
00:22:51,386 --> 00:22:52,852
I'm like, oh my gosh, like you are gonna

848
00:22:52,852 --> 00:22:54,592
have a couple hundred bucks in a card.

849
00:22:54,592 --> 00:22:56,519
That's like very risky to me.

850
00:22:56,519 --> 00:22:59,062
So I love when they offer a honey fund

851
00:22:59,062 --> 00:23:00,712
because it's so much easier for me to

852
00:23:00,712 --> 00:23:02,509
be like, just do it right from my phone.

853
00:23:02,569 --> 00:23:03,632
Like, that's so much easier.

854
00:23:03,632 --> 00:23:05,732
I get a card still, I put it on the table

855
00:23:05,732 --> 00:23:07,235
and I write like little note, like, check

856
00:23:07,235 --> 00:23:08,495
your honey fund, or you know, or whatever.

857
00:23:08,495 --> 00:23:09,215
Sometimes I do that.

858
00:23:09,345 --> 00:23:09,665
Love it.

859
00:23:09,715 --> 00:23:10,705
but it's so much easier.

860
00:23:10,915 --> 00:23:11,070
Yeah.

861
00:23:11,070 --> 00:23:11,280
Sounds good.

862
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,330
And we had that too, like

863
00:23:12,330 --> 00:23:13,620
even like a couple people that

864
00:23:13,620 --> 00:23:15,030
couldn't make it to our wedding.

865
00:23:15,267 --> 00:23:16,749
the day of like they were sick or their

866
00:23:16,749 --> 00:23:18,219
kids were sick and they just like sent

867
00:23:18,219 --> 00:23:19,535
something and then we just got like

868
00:23:19,535 --> 00:23:21,155
an email and it was like, so sorry.

869
00:23:21,155 --> 00:23:22,445
And then they sent their gift that way.

870
00:23:22,445 --> 00:23:23,675
So it was like, even if you couldn't

871
00:23:23,675 --> 00:23:26,015
be there, it's just like an easier way.

872
00:23:26,219 --> 00:23:27,902
We all have access on our phones.

873
00:23:28,035 --> 00:23:29,715
lot of us don't have checks anymore.

874
00:23:29,919 --> 00:23:29,989
Mm-hmm.

875
00:23:29,989 --> 00:23:30,949
Or carry around cash.

876
00:23:30,949 --> 00:23:32,329
A lot of us don't carry around cash.

877
00:23:32,469 --> 00:23:33,802
so many people now just

878
00:23:33,802 --> 00:23:34,972
don't ever carry cash.

879
00:23:34,972 --> 00:23:36,112
And like, I usually have a

880
00:23:36,112 --> 00:23:38,069
little cash, but like, not

881
00:23:38,069 --> 00:23:40,169
enough when I usually want it.

882
00:23:40,229 --> 00:23:41,172
I don't have it, so.

883
00:23:41,172 --> 00:23:41,502
Yep.

884
00:23:41,872 --> 00:23:42,439
It's so funny.

885
00:23:42,439 --> 00:23:43,759
You just have everything

886
00:23:43,759 --> 00:23:44,539
with your phone now.

887
00:23:44,809 --> 00:23:45,439
Yes.

888
00:23:45,529 --> 00:23:45,889
Oh yeah.

889
00:23:45,889 --> 00:23:46,669
The ease.

890
00:23:46,819 --> 00:23:47,449
So, or like at

891
00:23:47,449 --> 00:23:49,189
Whole Foods you can use your palm to pay.

892
00:23:49,189 --> 00:23:50,789
I'm not into that yet, but, oh, that's

893
00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:51,839
a, we'll have to look into that as a

894
00:23:51,839 --> 00:23:53,999
feature for honey fund, like gift table.

895
00:23:54,059 --> 00:23:55,139
Like just be with your palm, just put

896
00:23:55,264 --> 00:23:55,504
hand.

897
00:23:57,195 --> 00:23:58,510
Technology is wild.

898
00:23:58,510 --> 00:24:00,280
It scares me sometimes, but

899
00:24:00,330 --> 00:24:01,410
it's a hundred percent Cool.

900
00:24:01,890 --> 00:24:02,280
Yeah.

901
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:02,760
Okay.

902
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,860
We are gonna go into rapid fire.

903
00:24:04,860 --> 00:24:06,724
It's honeymoon, and kind of

904
00:24:06,724 --> 00:24:08,750
like CEO edition, so there's

905
00:24:08,750 --> 00:24:09,650
kinda like mixed in there.

906
00:24:10,190 --> 00:24:10,520
Okay.

907
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:10,760
Let's do it.

908
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:10,770
Okay.

909
00:24:10,915 --> 00:24:12,674
What's a realistic honeymoon

910
00:24:12,674 --> 00:24:14,114
budget for most couples?

911
00:24:14,499 --> 00:24:15,270
Ooh, I love this.

912
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:17,570
so I'll give you some averages and

913
00:24:17,570 --> 00:24:18,860
then I'll give you some ranges.

914
00:24:19,105 --> 00:24:20,227
So, average honeymoon

915
00:24:20,227 --> 00:24:22,237
budget right now is $6,500.

916
00:24:22,237 --> 00:24:25,197
This is a survey of H Fund couples, that

917
00:24:25,197 --> 00:24:27,597
has gone up considerably since pre COVID.

918
00:24:27,602 --> 00:24:27,762
Wow.

919
00:24:27,820 --> 00:24:31,610
2,700 I, or 3000 I think was the sort

920
00:24:31,610 --> 00:24:34,220
of typical amount to spend prior to

921
00:24:34,220 --> 00:24:36,474
COVID, and a much larger wedding budget.

922
00:24:36,849 --> 00:24:38,344
That's almost flipped now where

923
00:24:38,344 --> 00:24:41,264
you have, $6,500 honeymoons and

924
00:24:41,264 --> 00:24:43,964
like maybe 12, $15,000 weddings.

925
00:24:44,274 --> 00:24:45,864
So people are just allocating a

926
00:24:45,924 --> 00:24:47,844
much bigger portion of available

927
00:24:47,844 --> 00:24:48,744
funds to their honeymoon.

928
00:24:48,744 --> 00:24:49,704
And I think you nailed it when

929
00:24:49,704 --> 00:24:51,184
you said like, yeah, we know what

930
00:24:51,184 --> 00:24:52,204
we're doing for our honeymoon.

931
00:24:52,204 --> 00:24:53,644
You know, a lot of couples I asked

932
00:24:53,644 --> 00:24:55,534
today that are newly engaged,

933
00:24:55,724 --> 00:24:56,542
Where are you gonna get married?

934
00:24:56,542 --> 00:24:57,052
What month?

935
00:24:57,052 --> 00:24:57,322
Blah, blah.

936
00:24:57,322 --> 00:24:58,222
They don't know any of that.

937
00:24:58,305 --> 00:24:59,272
Where are you going on your honeymoon?

938
00:24:59,454 --> 00:25:00,322
We're going to Thailand.

939
00:25:01,042 --> 00:25:01,222
Mm-hmm.

940
00:25:01,907 --> 00:25:02,932
Like, they already know.

941
00:25:02,962 --> 00:25:03,712
You know what I mean?

942
00:25:03,802 --> 00:25:04,792
So it's interesting.

943
00:25:04,792 --> 00:25:05,062
Yes.

944
00:25:05,231 --> 00:25:05,885
I love that.

945
00:25:05,885 --> 00:25:06,845
I've noticed that too.

946
00:25:06,845 --> 00:25:08,255
I feel like it's definitely changed a

947
00:25:08,255 --> 00:25:10,069
little bit and I think people are getting

948
00:25:10,069 --> 00:25:11,779
more creative with where they're going.

949
00:25:11,779 --> 00:25:13,182
I feel like it used to be like, my

950
00:25:13,182 --> 00:25:15,042
parents' generation, it was like Hawaii.

951
00:25:15,042 --> 00:25:16,872
I think everyone went to Hawaii.

952
00:25:16,877 --> 00:25:17,257
Oh yes, yes.

953
00:25:17,592 --> 00:25:18,792
And we even looked at Hawaii

954
00:25:18,792 --> 00:25:19,992
and it was so expensive.

955
00:25:19,992 --> 00:25:20,792
So we ended up doing like

956
00:25:20,792 --> 00:25:21,999
all-inclusive resort.

957
00:25:22,224 --> 00:25:24,289
But yeah, I just feel like there's a

958
00:25:24,289 --> 00:25:26,489
lot more emphasis on realizing like.

959
00:25:26,770 --> 00:25:27,896
Planning this trip is

960
00:25:27,896 --> 00:25:28,976
like really important.

961
00:25:28,976 --> 00:25:29,066
Mm-hmm.

962
00:25:29,306 --> 00:25:29,906
Even if you can only do

963
00:25:29,906 --> 00:25:30,881
a couple days mm-hmm.

964
00:25:30,881 --> 00:25:31,241
Somewhere.

965
00:25:31,241 --> 00:25:31,251
Mm-hmm.

966
00:25:31,627 --> 00:25:32,886
Just to like plan

967
00:25:32,886 --> 00:25:34,416
something a little getaway.

968
00:25:34,673 --> 00:25:35,206
I love that.

969
00:25:35,579 --> 00:25:35,819
Yep.

970
00:25:36,166 --> 00:25:37,649
Should you save for the honeymoon

971
00:25:37,649 --> 00:25:39,449
before or after the wedding?

972
00:25:39,554 --> 00:25:39,834
Should

973
00:25:40,029 --> 00:25:41,499
you save for it before or after?

974
00:25:41,932 --> 00:25:43,282
it really depends on, when

975
00:25:43,282 --> 00:25:44,512
you wanna take the honeymoon.

976
00:25:44,552 --> 00:25:47,226
I'm a big fan of long engagements

977
00:25:47,374 --> 00:25:49,016
that allow you to start setting money

978
00:25:49,016 --> 00:25:50,276
aside from each of your paychecks

979
00:25:50,276 --> 00:25:52,616
every month to kind of build a seed

980
00:25:52,706 --> 00:25:54,926
fund for your wedding and honeymoon.

981
00:25:55,166 --> 00:25:56,786
and then of course your H fund,

982
00:25:56,816 --> 00:25:57,806
you know, contributions are

983
00:25:57,806 --> 00:25:58,886
gonna help you cover it too.

984
00:25:58,886 --> 00:26:02,029
So if you're planning to go right after

985
00:26:02,029 --> 00:26:04,572
your wedding, I think you wanna have a

986
00:26:04,572 --> 00:26:06,282
financial plan around your honeymoon,

987
00:26:06,522 --> 00:26:08,112
like six months ahead of the wedding.

988
00:26:08,294 --> 00:26:10,579
So what we're doing now is we're offering,

989
00:26:10,679 --> 00:26:15,256
couples a 0% interest credit card offer so

990
00:26:15,256 --> 00:26:17,146
that they can get that booked but not have

991
00:26:17,146 --> 00:26:18,916
to pay it back until after, the wedding,

992
00:26:18,916 --> 00:26:20,236
when their honey fund gifts come in.

993
00:26:20,398 --> 00:26:20,752
Oh, great.

994
00:26:20,752 --> 00:26:21,716
So, yeah, I think you need a

995
00:26:21,716 --> 00:26:23,996
financial plan and if you can save,

996
00:26:24,059 --> 00:26:25,439
one to two years ahead of your

997
00:26:25,439 --> 00:26:27,029
wedding and honeymoon, absolutely.

998
00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:27,929
Start doing that.

999
00:26:27,929 --> 00:26:28,019
Mm-hmm.

1000
00:26:28,122 --> 00:26:28,989
if you know you're not gonna

1001
00:26:28,989 --> 00:26:30,129
be able to honeymoon until

1002
00:26:30,129 --> 00:26:31,539
six months or a year after.

1003
00:26:31,771 --> 00:26:33,717
continue to save until that time comes.

1004
00:26:34,017 --> 00:26:34,347
Yeah.

1005
00:26:34,632 --> 00:26:35,832
And put it on your calendar

1006
00:26:35,892 --> 00:26:37,752
just so you Yes, absolutely.

1007
00:26:37,752 --> 00:26:38,922
Put something or let it slide off.

1008
00:26:38,922 --> 00:26:39,312
You gotta

1009
00:26:39,312 --> 00:26:39,702
book it.

1010
00:26:39,702 --> 00:26:40,932
You gotta ask for the time off.

1011
00:26:40,932 --> 00:26:42,372
You gotta make sure everyone

1012
00:26:42,372 --> 00:26:43,272
in your life knows, like,

1013
00:26:43,498 --> 00:26:44,368
these are our honeymoon dates.

1014
00:26:44,368 --> 00:26:45,808
Don't plan somebody else's wedding

1015
00:26:45,808 --> 00:26:46,918
during this time, or whatever.

1016
00:26:47,068 --> 00:26:47,278
Right?

1017
00:26:47,908 --> 00:26:48,208
Yes.

1018
00:26:48,575 --> 00:26:50,475
what's the biggest honeymoon money

1019
00:26:50,475 --> 00:26:52,155
mistake you think couples make?

1020
00:26:52,512 --> 00:26:55,651
Ooh, I think it can be really easy to,

1021
00:26:55,887 --> 00:26:57,321
with all of the hustle and bustle of

1022
00:26:57,321 --> 00:26:59,271
planning a wedding for the honeymoon,

1023
00:26:59,271 --> 00:27:01,367
planning to fall through the cracks,

1024
00:27:01,367 --> 00:27:03,047
and then you maybe are scrambling to

1025
00:27:03,047 --> 00:27:04,667
plan it a little too late and you're

1026
00:27:04,667 --> 00:27:06,527
not getting access to the best prices.

1027
00:27:06,696 --> 00:27:09,254
So kind of making sure that you have a

1028
00:27:09,254 --> 00:27:11,624
honeymoon planning sort of timeline that's

1029
00:27:11,624 --> 00:27:13,394
happening alongside your wedding planning.

1030
00:27:13,631 --> 00:27:15,791
deciding early where you wanna go, finding

1031
00:27:15,791 --> 00:27:17,351
out the best time of year to travel there.

1032
00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:19,062
when flights are gonna be most

1033
00:27:19,062 --> 00:27:20,762
reasonable, when hotel rooms

1034
00:27:20,762 --> 00:27:22,082
are gonna be most reasonable.

1035
00:27:22,142 --> 00:27:23,769
And, planning well ahead I think

1036
00:27:23,769 --> 00:27:25,279
is the best way to save money in

1037
00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:26,959
most cases in life in general.

1038
00:27:26,959 --> 00:27:27,049
Yes.

1039
00:27:27,049 --> 00:27:28,399
But certainly with travel planning.

1040
00:27:28,663 --> 00:27:29,596
Yeah, I love that.

1041
00:27:29,656 --> 00:27:30,046
Yeah.

1042
00:27:30,106 --> 00:27:31,336
It's funny 'cause like one of the

1043
00:27:31,503 --> 00:27:33,309
weddings I was in, my friend is

1044
00:27:33,309 --> 00:27:35,139
such a planner that like, I think

1045
00:27:35,139 --> 00:27:37,252
we all booked for Her bachelorette

1046
00:27:37,252 --> 00:27:38,752
party was in Miami, not Miami.

1047
00:27:38,964 --> 00:27:40,634
Sarasota, siesta Key.

1048
00:27:41,241 --> 00:27:41,601
I love Sarasota.

1049
00:27:42,091 --> 00:27:43,464
I think we all had our flights booked.

1050
00:27:43,464 --> 00:27:45,024
Like she had exactly where she, like,

1051
00:27:45,024 --> 00:27:46,724
she planned it herself as the bride.

1052
00:27:46,724 --> 00:27:47,747
She's like, I found these

1053
00:27:47,747 --> 00:27:48,887
two houses we're gonna rent.

1054
00:27:48,917 --> 00:27:50,320
I found these flights.

1055
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,280
They're like this cheap.

1056
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,540
And like, because it was so in advance,

1057
00:27:53,681 --> 00:27:55,530
it was such a good price for everything.

1058
00:27:55,620 --> 00:27:56,970
She knew the right season to go.

1059
00:27:56,970 --> 00:27:57,810
She knew the right time.

1060
00:27:57,810 --> 00:27:58,860
Like I think we went like four

1061
00:27:58,860 --> 00:28:00,060
months before her actual wedding,

1062
00:28:00,060 --> 00:28:01,470
just 'cause the timing was right.

1063
00:28:01,690 --> 00:28:01,900
Wow.

1064
00:28:01,980 --> 00:28:03,480
so you can actually do pretty

1065
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,590
well, especially with flights

1066
00:28:04,590 --> 00:28:06,150
and stuff like saving money.

1067
00:28:06,401 --> 00:28:09,147
Buying on travel Tuesday versus like Yes.

1068
00:28:09,147 --> 00:28:10,497
Last minute flights.

1069
00:28:10,587 --> 00:28:10,947
Yes.

1070
00:28:11,087 --> 00:28:11,207
yeah.

1071
00:28:11,207 --> 00:28:11,717
So smart and

1072
00:28:11,717 --> 00:28:12,887
there's so much tech now that

1073
00:28:12,887 --> 00:28:14,417
can tell you, it can alert

1074
00:28:14,417 --> 00:28:16,274
you when flight prices drop.

1075
00:28:16,274 --> 00:28:18,687
It can help you with like different types

1076
00:28:18,687 --> 00:28:20,157
of connections that can save you money.

1077
00:28:20,157 --> 00:28:21,947
Like, I would say definitely if

1078
00:28:21,947 --> 00:28:23,177
you like travel planning, like

1079
00:28:23,177 --> 00:28:24,767
start on it as soon as possible.

1080
00:28:24,937 --> 00:28:25,340
Yeah.

1081
00:28:25,544 --> 00:28:26,107
I love that.

1082
00:28:26,327 --> 00:28:27,197
I didn't ask this one before,

1083
00:28:27,197 --> 00:28:28,187
but we kind of talked about it,

1084
00:28:28,187 --> 00:28:29,997
about like having your honeymoon

1085
00:28:29,997 --> 00:28:31,467
as a part of your wedding budget.

1086
00:28:31,467 --> 00:28:32,967
Do you think those should be two separate

1087
00:28:32,967 --> 00:28:34,647
budgets or just like one big and then

1088
00:28:34,647 --> 00:28:36,267
figure out how much you wanna allocate?

1089
00:28:36,527 --> 00:28:37,847
Yeah, well, I mean, realistically

1090
00:28:37,847 --> 00:28:41,070
speaking, it's all one budget, which is

1091
00:28:41,070 --> 00:28:43,080
your combined financial picture, right?

1092
00:28:43,287 --> 00:28:44,494
And so you have to ask yourself,

1093
00:28:44,697 --> 00:28:46,324
when we wake up the morning after

1094
00:28:46,324 --> 00:28:47,920
our wedding night, how much money

1095
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,080
do we wanna have in the bank for?

1096
00:28:50,250 --> 00:28:52,029
The next step in life, whether that's

1097
00:28:52,059 --> 00:28:54,502
buying a home or paying off debt or going

1098
00:28:54,502 --> 00:28:56,062
and doing a master's program or something.

1099
00:28:56,275 --> 00:28:58,669
your financial life never, ends, right?

1100
00:28:58,669 --> 00:29:00,469
You have to be constantly planning ahead.

1101
00:29:00,725 --> 00:29:02,083
we actually have a worksheet, it's called

1102
00:29:02,083 --> 00:29:03,523
the one page wedding plan, where you just

1103
00:29:03,523 --> 00:29:05,636
sit down and like think about, okay, how

1104
00:29:05,636 --> 00:29:07,076
much money do we have in the bank now?

1105
00:29:07,260 --> 00:29:08,663
How much time do we have to save?

1106
00:29:08,850 --> 00:29:09,950
How much do we expect friends and

1107
00:29:09,950 --> 00:29:11,676
family to be able to contribute and

1108
00:29:11,676 --> 00:29:14,223
then helps you allocate that financial

1109
00:29:14,223 --> 00:29:16,083
picture across all the different things.

1110
00:29:16,083 --> 00:29:17,463
And like I said, you know, what we're

1111
00:29:17,463 --> 00:29:18,723
finding is couples are allocating

1112
00:29:18,723 --> 00:29:20,193
so much more of their overall

1113
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:21,606
budget picture to the honeymoon

1114
00:29:21,606 --> 00:29:22,656
these days than they used to.

1115
00:29:22,656 --> 00:29:23,316
Mm-hmm.

1116
00:29:23,322 --> 00:29:24,396
And a lot less on the wedding

1117
00:29:24,396 --> 00:29:25,616
because they just, number one,

1118
00:29:25,616 --> 00:29:27,206
it's like impossible to afford.

1119
00:29:27,393 --> 00:29:28,803
we just did a bunch of research on

1120
00:29:28,803 --> 00:29:30,183
destination weddings and we learned

1121
00:29:30,183 --> 00:29:32,106
that couples are holding destination

1122
00:29:32,106 --> 00:29:34,116
weddings within the US just to go

1123
00:29:34,116 --> 00:29:35,886
to a more affordable wedding market.

1124
00:29:36,197 --> 00:29:37,235
Wow, that's,

1125
00:29:37,235 --> 00:29:38,255
isn't that interesting?

1126
00:29:38,490 --> 00:29:39,001
Yeah.

1127
00:29:39,211 --> 00:29:40,561
And kind of then just turning that

1128
00:29:40,711 --> 00:29:42,421
trip into their honeymoon Probably.

1129
00:29:42,421 --> 00:29:42,481
Yeah.

1130
00:29:42,511 --> 00:29:42,961
Not nec.

1131
00:29:42,961 --> 00:29:44,231
No, they're not even, they're still

1132
00:29:44,231 --> 00:29:45,741
taking a separate honeymoon, but

1133
00:29:45,741 --> 00:29:47,031
they're having a destination wedding

1134
00:29:47,151 --> 00:29:48,531
just because wherever they live is

1135
00:29:48,531 --> 00:29:50,001
just too expensive to plan a wedding.

1136
00:29:50,231 --> 00:29:50,561
Yeah.

1137
00:29:50,777 --> 00:29:51,565
Isn't that fascinating?

1138
00:29:51,595 --> 00:29:53,005
And it's wild how it

1139
00:29:53,035 --> 00:29:54,565
changes from state to state.

1140
00:29:54,955 --> 00:29:55,855
Yes, definitely.

1141
00:29:55,855 --> 00:29:57,505
I'm in Wisconsin and I think they're,

1142
00:29:57,747 --> 00:29:59,591
I mean, we went pretty affordable

1143
00:29:59,591 --> 00:30:01,021
for ours, so I think, I shouldn't

1144
00:30:01,021 --> 00:30:02,131
say, or affordable, it was still

1145
00:30:02,131 --> 00:30:03,991
on the, it was still up there, but,

1146
00:30:04,091 --> 00:30:05,801
I hear like California or New York

1147
00:30:05,801 --> 00:30:07,961
price, like downtown New York prices.

1148
00:30:07,961 --> 00:30:09,251
I'm like, woo.

1149
00:30:09,611 --> 00:30:10,421
New York though.

1150
00:30:10,663 --> 00:30:11,843
the New York wedding industry is

1151
00:30:11,843 --> 00:30:13,673
almost a completely different beast

1152
00:30:13,703 --> 00:30:16,445
all its own and it influences so much

1153
00:30:16,445 --> 00:30:18,215
of the rest of the industry, I think

1154
00:30:18,215 --> 00:30:20,419
really unfairly, because the big

1155
00:30:20,419 --> 00:30:21,949
sites like the Knot and WeddingWire,

1156
00:30:21,949 --> 00:30:24,119
you know, are out of New York and.

1157
00:30:24,321 --> 00:30:25,492
It's just not real.

1158
00:30:25,572 --> 00:30:26,652
it's just New York.

1159
00:30:26,682 --> 00:30:28,575
like I said, you can do a wedding in a

1160
00:30:28,575 --> 00:30:31,222
public park with no venue cost, you know,

1161
00:30:31,222 --> 00:30:33,645
with your friend ordained online, no

1162
00:30:33,735 --> 00:30:36,262
efficient cost at a cake that you buy at

1163
00:30:36,262 --> 00:30:38,302
Whole Foods or whatever your local grocery

1164
00:30:38,302 --> 00:30:40,415
store like what you need is your love.

1165
00:30:40,415 --> 00:30:40,865
That's it.

1166
00:30:40,965 --> 00:30:42,419
and you can build from there.

1167
00:30:42,419 --> 00:30:43,829
If you kind of start with this

1168
00:30:43,829 --> 00:30:45,659
like, okay, what's like the minimum?

1169
00:30:45,659 --> 00:30:46,409
We need to do this?

1170
00:30:46,409 --> 00:30:47,369
And then just build from there.

1171
00:30:47,369 --> 00:30:48,359
Okay, this is important to us.

1172
00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:49,139
That's important to us.

1173
00:30:49,139 --> 00:30:49,319
Yeah.

1174
00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:50,069
We can afford that.

1175
00:30:50,069 --> 00:30:50,279
Yeah.

1176
00:30:50,279 --> 00:30:51,569
We're willing to spend our money on that.

1177
00:30:51,842 --> 00:30:52,775
you'll come up with something that I

1178
00:30:52,775 --> 00:30:54,905
think is truly authentic and fun and

1179
00:30:54,905 --> 00:30:56,742
unique for your friends and family and

1180
00:30:56,742 --> 00:30:58,302
like so supportive of your financial

1181
00:30:58,302 --> 00:30:59,862
picture and your future together.

1182
00:31:00,072 --> 00:31:00,282
Mm-hmm.

1183
00:31:00,582 --> 00:31:01,002
Yeah.

1184
00:31:01,224 --> 00:31:02,335
I've been to some beautiful

1185
00:31:02,335 --> 00:31:04,260
weddings that were like DIY.

1186
00:31:04,744 --> 00:31:06,860
Under a tent and it looked great.

1187
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:07,940
And it's just about having that

1188
00:31:07,940 --> 00:31:10,130
eye and it's intimate, it's small.

1189
00:31:10,288 --> 00:31:10,557
Yeah.

1190
00:31:10,587 --> 00:31:11,817
And then I've been to huge weddings

1191
00:31:11,817 --> 00:31:12,807
that they spent a lot of money

1192
00:31:12,807 --> 00:31:13,887
and they were beautiful, but that

1193
00:31:13,887 --> 00:31:15,417
was what was important to them.

1194
00:31:15,417 --> 00:31:15,507
Right.

1195
00:31:15,597 --> 00:31:16,707
And it looked great and

1196
00:31:16,707 --> 00:31:17,667
they had the funds for it.

1197
00:31:17,667 --> 00:31:18,027
Right.

1198
00:31:18,201 --> 00:31:18,454
Right.

1199
00:31:18,514 --> 00:31:20,404
And I think a lot of it is like comparison

1200
00:31:20,404 --> 00:31:22,617
and people follow these, like, influencers

1201
00:31:22,617 --> 00:31:24,477
in New York and they're like, oh my

1202
00:31:24,477 --> 00:31:25,944
gosh, that's how much I have to spend.

1203
00:31:25,944 --> 00:31:26,814
Oh my gosh, I'm gonna go broke.

1204
00:31:26,814 --> 00:31:27,654
And it's like, no.

1205
00:31:27,684 --> 00:31:29,124
Yeah, you don't have to do that.

1206
00:31:29,414 --> 00:31:29,594
Yeah.

1207
00:31:29,594 --> 00:31:30,584
Actually, I'm gonna tell you a

1208
00:31:30,584 --> 00:31:31,874
quick little side story right now

1209
00:31:31,874 --> 00:31:33,340
because, I've been working with a

1210
00:31:33,340 --> 00:31:35,320
reporter that, writes for the New

1211
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,940
York Times for a couple years on a

1212
00:31:36,940 --> 00:31:39,510
story about the real cost of weddings.

1213
00:31:39,510 --> 00:31:41,010
And I don't mean like the super

1214
00:31:41,010 --> 00:31:42,210
expensive New York weddings, I

1215
00:31:42,210 --> 00:31:44,077
mean everyday weddings that couples

1216
00:31:44,077 --> 00:31:45,697
are having that are so cool and

1217
00:31:45,697 --> 00:31:47,284
unique and financially accessible.

1218
00:31:47,284 --> 00:31:49,924
And the fact that like 30,000 might

1219
00:31:49,924 --> 00:31:51,214
still be the average, but it's not

1220
00:31:51,214 --> 00:31:53,224
actually the most common budget anymore.

1221
00:31:53,347 --> 00:31:54,374
that's skewed by like

1222
00:31:54,374 --> 00:31:55,934
very, very expensive.

1223
00:31:56,564 --> 00:31:57,464
Like the New York weddings

1224
00:31:57,464 --> 00:31:58,304
we're talking about.

1225
00:31:58,504 --> 00:31:59,940
and just, kind of like resetting

1226
00:31:59,940 --> 00:32:01,650
expectations about what it actually

1227
00:32:01,870 --> 00:32:03,277
cost you to plan a wedding.

1228
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:04,670
The story that came out was

1229
00:32:04,670 --> 00:32:05,870
like, completely not that.

1230
00:32:06,024 --> 00:32:07,250
It was just like, this is why

1231
00:32:07,250 --> 00:32:08,957
weddings are so expensive and this

1232
00:32:08,957 --> 00:32:09,917
is where you're gonna have to spend.

1233
00:32:09,917 --> 00:32:11,147
And I was just like pulling my hair.

1234
00:32:11,147 --> 00:32:14,206
I'm like, no, it's just an unrealistic,

1235
00:32:14,236 --> 00:32:16,008
like expectation and it's a

1236
00:32:16,218 --> 00:32:18,118
false sort of like, I don't know.

1237
00:32:18,118 --> 00:32:19,318
I think it's misleading.

1238
00:32:19,505 --> 00:32:20,915
I really encourage couples not to buy

1239
00:32:20,915 --> 00:32:22,145
into it because it's just like any

1240
00:32:22,145 --> 00:32:24,515
other industry or business, you know?

1241
00:32:24,755 --> 00:32:25,055
Mm-hmm.

1242
00:32:25,325 --> 00:32:26,405
They're gonna try to get you to

1243
00:32:26,405 --> 00:32:27,725
feel like if I don't do that,

1244
00:32:27,725 --> 00:32:28,715
I'm gonna regret it forever.

1245
00:32:28,968 --> 00:32:30,503
That sort of emotional, sort of

1246
00:32:30,503 --> 00:32:32,333
FOMO based marketing in the wedding

1247
00:32:32,333 --> 00:32:33,953
industry really gets my blood boiling.

1248
00:32:34,343 --> 00:32:35,003
Yes.

1249
00:32:35,298 --> 00:32:35,960
No, for sure.

1250
00:32:36,130 --> 00:32:37,720
I work in marketing too, and I feel

1251
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,970
like I can seek stuff like that out.

1252
00:32:40,136 --> 00:32:41,870
it's funny 'cause even like, some sales

1253
00:32:41,870 --> 00:32:43,460
stuff, I feel like my husband's so quick

1254
00:32:43,460 --> 00:32:45,133
to be like, oh, that's a great deal.

1255
00:32:45,133 --> 00:32:46,936
And I'll be like, weren't they just that?

1256
00:32:47,057 --> 00:32:48,023
You know, like I can, kind of

1257
00:32:48,023 --> 00:32:48,743
scope some of that stuff up.

1258
00:32:48,743 --> 00:32:51,066
Yeah, it kind of goes to like, back, and I

1259
00:32:51,066 --> 00:32:52,356
don't even know if they say this anymore,

1260
00:32:52,356 --> 00:32:53,916
but like, back to like engagement rings,

1261
00:32:53,916 --> 00:32:56,363
they'd be like, oh, he should spend six

1262
00:32:56,363 --> 00:32:58,223
months of his salary on an engagement

1263
00:32:58,223 --> 00:33:01,053
ring, or her dress should cost this much.

1264
00:33:01,053 --> 00:33:02,506
And it's just like, why are we setting

1265
00:33:02,506 --> 00:33:04,396
these expectations for other people?

1266
00:33:04,537 --> 00:33:04,666
Yeah.

1267
00:33:04,666 --> 00:33:05,780
Not knowing their job, their

1268
00:33:05,780 --> 00:33:07,340
budget, their interests.

1269
00:33:07,523 --> 00:33:07,913
yeah,

1270
00:33:08,063 --> 00:33:09,319
for me, like I just said, like my

1271
00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:11,299
dress was, I wanted a beautiful dress.

1272
00:33:11,299 --> 00:33:11,599
Yes.

1273
00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:12,769
But I did not wanna spend

1274
00:33:12,919 --> 00:33:15,229
$10,000 or $5,000 on a dress.

1275
00:33:15,229 --> 00:33:15,829
That just wasn't me.

1276
00:33:16,317 --> 00:33:16,552
I know.

1277
00:33:16,552 --> 00:33:17,422
And I'm so glad you mentioned

1278
00:33:17,422 --> 00:33:19,049
diamonds because, They have these

1279
00:33:19,049 --> 00:33:20,519
beautiful lab grown diamonds now

1280
00:33:20,696 --> 00:33:22,316
literally can't tell the difference.

1281
00:33:22,477 --> 00:33:23,526
Nobody would know.

1282
00:33:23,717 --> 00:33:25,986
Even like a moist aite is like gorgeous.

1283
00:33:25,986 --> 00:33:27,636
like I have a five carat moist aite

1284
00:33:27,636 --> 00:33:29,226
that I wear a lot, and I have to be

1285
00:33:29,226 --> 00:33:30,756
careful when I wear it because people

1286
00:33:30,756 --> 00:33:33,546
are like, damn, she's got money.

1287
00:33:33,876 --> 00:33:37,128
You know, if I had it to do over again,

1288
00:33:37,128 --> 00:33:39,308
I would, be smart about where to put

1289
00:33:39,308 --> 00:33:41,702
that money because we did some math

1290
00:33:41,702 --> 00:33:43,742
on like the typical or the, quote,

1291
00:33:43,742 --> 00:33:46,532
average wedding price of $35,000.

1292
00:33:46,806 --> 00:33:48,313
if you invested that on day one of

1293
00:33:48,313 --> 00:33:49,933
your marriage, you would have 1.2

1294
00:33:49,933 --> 00:33:52,326
million for retirement so, like that's

1295
00:33:52,326 --> 00:33:54,346
what you're not getting by spending

1296
00:33:54,346 --> 00:33:55,546
that much money on your wedding day.

1297
00:33:55,546 --> 00:33:56,386
When you think about it that

1298
00:33:56,386 --> 00:33:57,286
way, it's like a totally

1299
00:33:57,286 --> 00:33:58,606
different perspective, you know?

1300
00:33:58,606 --> 00:33:58,666
Yeah.

1301
00:33:58,696 --> 00:34:00,106
It makes you make different choices.

1302
00:34:00,346 --> 00:34:00,623
Yeah.

1303
00:34:00,623 --> 00:34:01,163
It's wild.

1304
00:34:01,163 --> 00:34:02,123
You got, it's like you gotta take

1305
00:34:02,123 --> 00:34:04,340
the pressure off of like take off the

1306
00:34:04,370 --> 00:34:05,540
blinders of what everyone's trying

1307
00:34:05,540 --> 00:34:06,920
to tell you to do and just yeah.

1308
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,480
Look at what's in front of you.

1309
00:34:08,510 --> 00:34:09,500
Talk to your partner.

1310
00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:09,510
Yeah.

1311
00:34:09,790 --> 00:34:10,936
What do we wanna do?

1312
00:34:11,116 --> 00:34:11,296
Yeah.

1313
00:34:11,296 --> 00:34:12,406
Like, you know, everybody else.

1314
00:34:12,586 --> 00:34:13,876
It's definitely easy to fall into the

1315
00:34:13,876 --> 00:34:16,400
trap of like, well, they got married

1316
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,170
in this palace and it was so beautiful.

1317
00:34:18,170 --> 00:34:20,150
And it's like, is that feasible?

1318
00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:20,660
Yeah.

1319
00:34:20,690 --> 00:34:20,960
Like, you

1320
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:21,890
wanna get married there,

1321
00:34:21,890 --> 00:34:22,490
or,

1322
00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:22,820
yeah.

1323
00:34:23,050 --> 00:34:23,476
Right.

1324
00:34:23,476 --> 00:34:25,216
I mean, yes, of course we all want

1325
00:34:25,216 --> 00:34:27,286
to stay in the most luxurious, you

1326
00:34:27,286 --> 00:34:29,176
know, villa on our trips or whatever,

1327
00:34:29,176 --> 00:34:30,963
but like, you can have an incredible

1328
00:34:30,963 --> 00:34:32,973
experience and make it affordable.

1329
00:34:33,193 --> 00:34:34,513
And that's why, you know, on Honeyfund,

1330
00:34:34,513 --> 00:34:36,163
you're not gonna find that kind of

1331
00:34:36,163 --> 00:34:38,226
like FOMO based, marketing messaging.

1332
00:34:38,226 --> 00:34:39,276
You're not gonna find this whole

1333
00:34:39,276 --> 00:34:41,690
world of like these real weddings that

1334
00:34:41,690 --> 00:34:43,100
are just way out of your price point

1335
00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:44,570
and make you feel like less than.

1336
00:34:44,780 --> 00:34:46,816
We just help you share the details

1337
00:34:46,816 --> 00:34:48,820
of your, day, get some money

1338
00:34:48,820 --> 00:34:50,140
to help fund your, wedding or

1339
00:34:50,140 --> 00:34:51,880
honeymoon or whatever savings goal.

1340
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,813
we have RSVP and guest management.

1341
00:34:53,813 --> 00:34:54,983
We try to just be like a simple

1342
00:34:54,983 --> 00:34:56,295
alternative to those like

1343
00:34:56,305 --> 00:34:56,425
mm-hmm.

1344
00:34:56,695 --> 00:34:58,585
Overblown wedding planning sites.

1345
00:34:58,809 --> 00:35:00,055
Yeah, I love that.

1346
00:35:00,315 --> 00:35:00,539
All right.

1347
00:35:00,539 --> 00:35:01,889
I got a little sidetracked

1348
00:35:01,889 --> 00:35:03,089
from the rapid fire, but so did

1349
00:35:03,089 --> 00:35:04,739
I. That wasn't rapid at all.

1350
00:35:04,739 --> 00:35:04,949
Yeah,

1351
00:35:04,949 --> 00:35:05,339
I know.

1352
00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:06,119
I love it.

1353
00:35:06,345 --> 00:35:07,579
Okay, I'll do a couple more and then we'll

1354
00:35:07,579 --> 00:35:09,349
get into this week's story submission.

1355
00:35:09,549 --> 00:35:10,179
let's see.

1356
00:35:10,459 --> 00:35:11,795
Do you think couples should delay

1357
00:35:11,795 --> 00:35:13,175
the honeymoon to save money or

1358
00:35:13,175 --> 00:35:14,075
take it right away and then we

1359
00:35:14,075 --> 00:35:15,335
kinda just talked about this, but

1360
00:35:15,585 --> 00:35:17,965
delay it Only if it's gonna make

1361
00:35:17,965 --> 00:35:19,645
it like a much better trip for

1362
00:35:19,645 --> 00:35:21,445
you and it's gonna cost you less,

1363
00:35:21,582 --> 00:35:23,015
but otherwise take it right away.

1364
00:35:23,245 --> 00:35:23,575
Yeah.

1365
00:35:23,882 --> 00:35:24,872
What's your thought on

1366
00:35:24,872 --> 00:35:26,252
like surprise honeymoons?

1367
00:35:26,252 --> 00:35:27,962
Because I've seen a couple times where

1368
00:35:27,962 --> 00:35:29,832
there's surprise honeymoons, whether

1369
00:35:29,832 --> 00:35:32,532
it's like the groom plans it or someone

1370
00:35:32,562 --> 00:35:34,362
a family member plans it for the couple.

1371
00:35:34,362 --> 00:35:35,442
What are your thoughts on that?

1372
00:35:35,722 --> 00:35:38,302
If it's a travel planner doing it and

1373
00:35:38,302 --> 00:35:40,152
they've interviewed you ex extensively

1374
00:35:40,152 --> 00:35:41,922
about what kind of trip you want?

1375
00:35:42,182 --> 00:35:42,629
Yes.

1376
00:35:42,995 --> 00:35:45,909
Or if you both just love to be surprised.

1377
00:35:45,909 --> 00:35:46,419
Yes.

1378
00:35:46,479 --> 00:35:47,949
Otherwise hell no.

1379
00:35:50,109 --> 00:35:50,559
Yeah.

1380
00:35:50,649 --> 00:35:52,089
That was my thought when I first

1381
00:35:52,089 --> 00:35:53,499
read about a story like that,

1382
00:35:53,499 --> 00:35:55,509
I was like, I would hate that.

1383
00:35:55,944 --> 00:35:56,234
Yeah.

1384
00:35:56,374 --> 00:35:57,674
No, let, let me plan more on that.

1385
00:35:57,679 --> 00:35:58,539
Unless you're both like that

1386
00:35:58,539 --> 00:36:00,739
personality or like I said, somebody

1387
00:36:00,779 --> 00:36:02,515
whose job it is to plan awesome

1388
00:36:02,515 --> 00:36:04,075
trips and, make sure you love it,

1389
00:36:04,275 --> 00:36:06,095
but not like an in-law or a friend.

1390
00:36:06,125 --> 00:36:06,635
No way.

1391
00:36:06,695 --> 00:36:07,205
Jose,

1392
00:36:07,265 --> 00:36:07,805
right?

1393
00:36:07,805 --> 00:36:08,165
Yes.

1394
00:36:08,165 --> 00:36:09,995
You've been on one of their great

1395
00:36:09,995 --> 00:36:10,955
trips and you're like, okay, I know

1396
00:36:10,955 --> 00:36:11,885
what they know what they're doing.

1397
00:36:11,890 --> 00:36:12,040
Yes.

1398
00:36:12,045 --> 00:36:12,335
Yes.

1399
00:36:12,335 --> 00:36:12,755
I'll do that.

1400
00:36:12,785 --> 00:36:13,235
Okay.

1401
00:36:13,949 --> 00:36:14,399
I love that.

1402
00:36:14,655 --> 00:36:14,975
Okay.

1403
00:36:15,035 --> 00:36:16,115
Let's get to this week's

1404
00:36:16,115 --> 00:36:17,825
wedding story submission.

1405
00:36:17,855 --> 00:36:18,755
Here we go.

1406
00:36:19,049 --> 00:36:20,279
Feel free to stop me at any time or

1407
00:36:20,279 --> 00:36:21,599
we'll kind of just pause and react.

1408
00:36:21,822 --> 00:36:22,222
Okay.

1409
00:36:22,252 --> 00:36:22,282
Okay.

1410
00:36:22,495 --> 00:36:24,159
Going into my wedding day, I

1411
00:36:24,159 --> 00:36:26,319
was honestly bracing for chaos.

1412
00:36:26,595 --> 00:36:28,004
Knowing my mother-in-law, I was

1413
00:36:28,004 --> 00:36:29,294
sure something would go down.

1414
00:36:29,324 --> 00:36:31,254
I'd experienced her episodes before

1415
00:36:31,429 --> 00:36:33,587
and let's just say I have some stories.

1416
00:36:33,812 --> 00:36:35,577
Seriously, let me know if you want more.

1417
00:36:35,852 --> 00:36:37,524
She has a long history of taking her

1418
00:36:37,524 --> 00:36:39,767
anger towards her ex-husbands out on

1419
00:36:39,767 --> 00:36:41,917
my husband and I truly thought she

1420
00:36:41,917 --> 00:36:44,367
might ruin our day, especially because

1421
00:36:44,367 --> 00:36:46,557
she was going to be there alongside

1422
00:36:46,557 --> 00:36:49,084
her first husband and his wife and

1423
00:36:49,084 --> 00:36:51,304
her second husband and his wife.

1424
00:36:51,548 --> 00:36:53,787
A full soap opera cast y'all.

1425
00:36:55,388 --> 00:36:57,257
But somehow against all odds,

1426
00:36:57,257 --> 00:36:58,757
the wedding itself was perfect.

1427
00:36:58,978 --> 00:37:00,107
Not a single issue.

1428
00:37:00,361 --> 00:37:01,070
Everyone behaved.

1429
00:37:01,070 --> 00:37:02,930
It was peaceful, joyful,

1430
00:37:02,930 --> 00:37:04,100
and completely drama free.

1431
00:37:04,314 --> 00:37:05,000
That's amazing.

1432
00:37:05,214 --> 00:37:06,444
I was like, you glad your job free

1433
00:37:06,444 --> 00:37:06,644
to.

1434
00:37:06,881 --> 00:37:07,170
Thanks

1435
00:37:07,170 --> 00:37:07,320
so much.

1436
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:07,560
Story over

1437
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:07,980
Krista.

1438
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,210
It was great talking to you.

1439
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:10,620
That was it.

1440
00:37:10,620 --> 00:37:10,920
Alright.

1441
00:37:10,980 --> 00:37:11,715
Yeah, yeah.

1442
00:37:12,090 --> 00:37:13,260
How disappointing would that be if

1443
00:37:13,260 --> 00:37:14,250
people are like, okay, I'm ready.

1444
00:37:14,250 --> 00:37:15,540
And I'm like, drama free guys.

1445
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:18,390
There was nothing for the first time ever.

1446
00:37:18,510 --> 00:37:18,660
Yeah.

1447
00:37:19,304 --> 00:37:21,064
she goes until the next morning.

1448
00:37:21,314 --> 00:37:23,324
So at least the mom held it off

1449
00:37:23,494 --> 00:37:24,401
the wedding day, which is on the

1450
00:37:24,401 --> 00:37:24,916
wedding day, which I would say it's

1451
00:37:24,916 --> 00:37:26,711
pretty polite to like, you know?

1452
00:37:26,711 --> 00:37:27,031
Mm-hmm.

1453
00:37:27,621 --> 00:37:28,576
Bare minimum, but yeah.

1454
00:37:28,666 --> 00:37:29,026
Okay.

1455
00:37:29,203 --> 00:37:31,263
For some, like her, she had

1456
00:37:31,263 --> 00:37:33,063
gifted us a hotel room at

1457
00:37:33,063 --> 00:37:35,253
Embassy Suites for wedding night.

1458
00:37:35,447 --> 00:37:36,376
Very thoughtful.

1459
00:37:36,496 --> 00:37:38,499
What we didn't know, she also booked

1460
00:37:38,499 --> 00:37:40,269
herself a room at the same hotel.

1461
00:37:40,490 --> 00:37:42,247
So the morning after, my husband

1462
00:37:42,247 --> 00:37:43,446
and I head down for what we

1463
00:37:43,446 --> 00:37:44,766
think will be our first quiet

1464
00:37:44,766 --> 00:37:46,296
breakfast together as newlyweds.

1465
00:37:46,490 --> 00:37:49,106
We walk in and there she is frantically

1466
00:37:49,106 --> 00:37:51,746
waving from across the breakfast lounge.

1467
00:37:51,975 --> 00:37:53,616
We were stunned, but okay.

1468
00:37:53,676 --> 00:37:54,756
We go over and say hi.

1469
00:37:54,985 --> 00:37:56,266
She invites us to eat with her.

1470
00:37:56,522 --> 00:37:57,576
we didn't really want to, but

1471
00:37:57,576 --> 00:37:59,046
out of politeness, we sit down.

1472
00:37:59,272 --> 00:38:00,893
See, for me, I'm like, we all,

1473
00:38:00,893 --> 00:38:02,153
actually, I think my husband and I

1474
00:38:02,153 --> 00:38:03,653
stayed at like a bed and breakfast in

1475
00:38:03,653 --> 00:38:05,183
the same tone, but we ended up going

1476
00:38:05,183 --> 00:38:06,893
to the hotel to like go see everybody.

1477
00:38:07,103 --> 00:38:07,223
Yeah.

1478
00:38:07,253 --> 00:38:07,313
You

1479
00:38:07,313 --> 00:38:08,453
wanted to see these people.

1480
00:38:08,453 --> 00:38:08,783
Yeah.

1481
00:38:08,843 --> 00:38:09,263
Yeah.

1482
00:38:09,263 --> 00:38:10,223
It doesn't sound like this bride wanted

1483
00:38:10,223 --> 00:38:11,813
to see her mother-in-law the next morning.

1484
00:38:11,963 --> 00:38:12,353
Right.

1485
00:38:12,353 --> 00:38:13,613
It sounds to me like.

1486
00:38:13,855 --> 00:38:15,043
She almost made it sound like the

1487
00:38:15,043 --> 00:38:16,333
mother-in-law when she booked it, made

1488
00:38:16,333 --> 00:38:17,533
it sound like, oh, I got you guys a

1489
00:38:17,533 --> 00:38:19,303
nice room over at the Embassy Suites.

1490
00:38:19,423 --> 00:38:19,573
Mm-hmm.

1491
00:38:19,813 --> 00:38:20,893
So they're like, oh, awesome.

1492
00:38:20,893 --> 00:38:22,123
This is really nice.

1493
00:38:22,123 --> 00:38:22,483
Right.

1494
00:38:22,723 --> 00:38:23,743
We walk down, surprise.

1495
00:38:23,803 --> 00:38:24,223
Yeah.

1496
00:38:24,606 --> 00:38:27,096
Small talk starts and then she drops it.

1497
00:38:27,345 --> 00:38:29,043
So how was your first night?

1498
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:31,746
We awkwardly respond fine.

1499
00:38:31,866 --> 00:38:33,366
What else do you say to your mom-in-law?

1500
00:38:33,659 --> 00:38:35,206
And then the real drama begins?

1501
00:38:35,236 --> 00:38:37,246
She says, I need a ride to the airport.

1502
00:38:37,532 --> 00:38:39,499
Mind you, there were over 20

1503
00:38:39,499 --> 00:38:41,179
family members staying nearby,

1504
00:38:41,289 --> 00:38:42,619
all flying out that day.

1505
00:38:42,849 --> 00:38:44,283
Any one of them could have taken her,

1506
00:38:44,516 --> 00:38:46,666
but she insists that we, the just married

1507
00:38:46,666 --> 00:38:49,009
couple must do it even though it would

1508
00:38:49,009 --> 00:38:51,589
add two hours to our already nine hour

1509
00:38:51,589 --> 00:38:54,139
drive to our honeymoon in Orlando.

1510
00:38:55,786 --> 00:38:58,023
We respectfully decline and offer to

1511
00:38:58,023 --> 00:39:00,213
pay a hundred dollars for a cab instead.

1512
00:39:00,466 --> 00:39:02,583
That's when she completely loses it.

1513
00:39:02,839 --> 00:39:04,776
Right there in the lobby, in front

1514
00:39:04,776 --> 00:39:06,786
of staff, in front of other guests.

1515
00:39:06,926 --> 00:39:08,743
She calls us selfish saying We're

1516
00:39:08,743 --> 00:39:11,383
ungrateful for the $300 room she paid for.

1517
00:39:11,636 --> 00:39:13,336
Then she tells us she's keeping

1518
00:39:13,336 --> 00:39:16,529
our car keys to my husband's BMW,

1519
00:39:16,589 --> 00:39:17,969
which she had driven the night

1520
00:39:17,969 --> 00:39:20,469
before until we change our minds.

1521
00:39:24,162 --> 00:39:25,536
So this is like a full on

1522
00:39:25,536 --> 00:39:27,946
like tantrum now to like go

1523
00:39:28,371 --> 00:39:30,566
I just, I can't even imagine like ruining

1524
00:39:30,566 --> 00:39:32,819
someone's morning after like that.

1525
00:39:33,143 --> 00:39:34,739
what in the world.

1526
00:39:34,962 --> 00:39:35,489
It's like she

1527
00:39:35,489 --> 00:39:38,429
had this planned all along to be like,

1528
00:39:38,609 --> 00:39:40,513
oh, I'm gonna make this hotel room for

1529
00:39:40,513 --> 00:39:42,073
them, so that's gonna be my nice deed.

1530
00:39:42,282 --> 00:39:42,522
Right.

1531
00:39:42,582 --> 00:39:43,452
But I'll be there.

1532
00:39:43,452 --> 00:39:43,512
Yeah.

1533
00:39:43,748 --> 00:39:46,352
they have no other choice but to drive me.

1534
00:39:46,658 --> 00:39:46,868
Ugh.

1535
00:39:47,288 --> 00:39:49,198
God, I'm kind of speechless, to be honest.

1536
00:39:49,228 --> 00:39:51,368
Krisa like, first of all, nobody

1537
00:39:51,368 --> 00:39:53,995
has any business expecting anything

1538
00:39:53,995 --> 00:39:55,525
from a wedding couple in the

1539
00:39:55,525 --> 00:39:57,265
first couple weeks of marriage.

1540
00:39:57,265 --> 00:39:58,795
Like they're in their honeymoon phase,

1541
00:39:58,795 --> 00:40:00,398
like, second of all, like I don't

1542
00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,498
imagine the mother-in-law is thinking

1543
00:40:02,558 --> 00:40:04,732
ahead of like, okay, well this is my

1544
00:40:04,732 --> 00:40:07,042
daughter-in-law now forever, hopefully.

1545
00:40:07,255 --> 00:40:09,323
and I'm gonna start my relationship

1546
00:40:09,323 --> 00:40:10,913
with her as her official

1547
00:40:10,913 --> 00:40:13,433
mother-in-law by being a total bee.

1548
00:40:13,463 --> 00:40:14,393
Like, I just don't,

1549
00:40:15,293 --> 00:40:15,593
yeah.

1550
00:40:15,593 --> 00:40:16,583
That's what always confuses me

1551
00:40:16,583 --> 00:40:17,753
about these kind of stories.

1552
00:40:17,753 --> 00:40:19,523
I'm like, don't they want to

1553
00:40:19,523 --> 00:40:21,953
see their son or child more?

1554
00:40:21,953 --> 00:40:23,219
And I feel like they don't

1555
00:40:23,249 --> 00:40:24,926
realize or think through that.

1556
00:40:24,926 --> 00:40:26,195
Like, if they act this way, they're

1557
00:40:26,195 --> 00:40:27,725
gonna see them less and less because

1558
00:40:27,725 --> 00:40:29,315
no one's gonna wanna be around them.

1559
00:40:29,350 --> 00:40:29,640
Yeah.

1560
00:40:29,675 --> 00:40:30,065
Yeah.

1561
00:40:30,245 --> 00:40:31,212
I think it's honestly as the

1562
00:40:31,212 --> 00:40:32,542
mother of, both a son and a

1563
00:40:32,542 --> 00:40:34,618
daughter, and having a brother too.

1564
00:40:34,972 --> 00:40:35,957
It's different for the

1565
00:40:35,957 --> 00:40:36,947
mother of the groom.

1566
00:40:37,147 --> 00:40:39,680
because in families, you know, women often

1567
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,620
kind of take the lead on social stuff and

1568
00:40:42,872 --> 00:40:45,250
they tend to just be more comfortable with

1569
00:40:45,250 --> 00:40:46,660
and gravitate towards their own family.

1570
00:40:46,660 --> 00:40:48,740
So you're gonna find your, precious

1571
00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:50,593
baby boy spending less time with

1572
00:40:50,593 --> 00:40:52,003
you and more time with her family.

1573
00:40:52,003 --> 00:40:52,393
Right.

1574
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,803
And that's just kind of the way life is.

1575
00:40:54,903 --> 00:40:56,613
so I think if you wanna mitigate

1576
00:40:56,613 --> 00:40:59,263
that, you gotta be pretty nice.

1577
00:40:59,983 --> 00:41:00,103
Yes.

1578
00:41:00,133 --> 00:41:00,823
Yeah.

1579
00:41:01,183 --> 00:41:02,533
if you just wanna throw a

1580
00:41:02,533 --> 00:41:04,103
tantrum about that Sure.

1581
00:41:04,103 --> 00:41:05,153
Throw your tantrum, but it's not

1582
00:41:05,153 --> 00:41:06,833
gonna help you make it better.

1583
00:41:07,133 --> 00:41:08,783
Yeah, no, exactly.

1584
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,500
she screams it's your duty as my only

1585
00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:15,560
son to protect me and get me to the

1586
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,213
airport and storms off with our keys.

1587
00:41:19,453 --> 00:41:21,018
Also knowing that they have to drive to

1588
00:41:21,018 --> 00:41:23,472
their honeymoon already nine hours away.

1589
00:41:23,577 --> 00:41:23,922
I know.

1590
00:41:23,922 --> 00:41:24,792
I'm like, I wanna buy them

1591
00:41:24,792 --> 00:41:25,722
a plane ticket right now.

1592
00:41:25,812 --> 00:41:28,092
I know, I know.

1593
00:41:28,152 --> 00:41:28,992
And it's not like this is

1594
00:41:28,992 --> 00:41:30,343
like an airport down the road.

1595
00:41:30,343 --> 00:41:32,394
She's, they said another two hours to the

1596
00:41:32,394 --> 00:41:34,554
airport, or at least one there, one back.

1597
00:41:34,708 --> 00:41:36,048
and, but I'm like psychologically

1598
00:41:36,048 --> 00:41:37,098
breaking down this woman, like

1599
00:41:37,098 --> 00:41:38,728
the line like, you're my only son.

1600
00:41:38,728 --> 00:41:40,228
You have to protect me, is exactly

1601
00:41:40,228 --> 00:41:41,698
what the mother of a son would be

1602
00:41:41,698 --> 00:41:43,498
afraid of, that now all of a sudden,

1603
00:41:43,735 --> 00:41:45,231
all the attention she got from her

1604
00:41:45,231 --> 00:41:46,701
son is now gonna go to this new

1605
00:41:46,701 --> 00:41:48,501
wife and she's gonna be left alone.

1606
00:41:48,654 --> 00:41:50,496
I, I mean look, all the villains

1607
00:41:50,496 --> 00:41:51,516
have a backstory, right?

1608
00:41:51,516 --> 00:41:51,966
Like mm-hmm.

1609
00:41:52,088 --> 00:41:54,083
Does not excuse the behavior, but

1610
00:41:54,113 --> 00:41:56,753
you can kind of see how that somebody

1611
00:41:56,753 --> 00:41:59,093
with not great skills, and anger

1612
00:41:59,093 --> 00:42:00,983
management problems would be like

1613
00:42:01,163 --> 00:42:02,723
acting this way if they're afraid

1614
00:42:02,723 --> 00:42:03,923
of losing their kid, you know?

1615
00:42:04,176 --> 00:42:04,733
Yes.

1616
00:42:04,793 --> 00:42:06,593
I love that you said that because one

1617
00:42:06,593 --> 00:42:08,943
of my most popular like storylines that

1618
00:42:08,943 --> 00:42:10,899
I'm doing the Ferris and Sloan one, I'm

1619
00:42:10,899 --> 00:42:12,789
doing the prequel right now of like.

1620
00:42:13,166 --> 00:42:14,738
The whole thing starts with she wants to

1621
00:42:14,738 --> 00:42:17,108
invite herself on like her son and his

1622
00:42:17,108 --> 00:42:19,298
girlfriend at the Time's, like vacation.

1623
00:42:19,458 --> 00:42:19,605
Yeah.

1624
00:42:19,605 --> 00:42:20,595
She's like, I wanna come.

1625
00:42:20,595 --> 00:42:21,195
It's like he's gonna

1626
00:42:21,195 --> 00:42:22,448
propose she wants to go.

1627
00:42:22,448 --> 00:42:23,408
And it's this whole storyline.

1628
00:42:23,695 --> 00:42:24,801
And so I'm doing the prequel now.

1629
00:42:24,801 --> 00:42:26,244
Like I did three seasons of it.

1630
00:42:26,244 --> 00:42:27,410
People like ate it up.

1631
00:42:27,410 --> 00:42:28,430
They love the story.

1632
00:42:28,460 --> 00:42:29,390
Oh, that's so cool.

1633
00:42:29,390 --> 00:42:30,080
And it's so, yeah.

1634
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,160
It's been so much fun.

1635
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,660
And so I'm in the prequel now, kind

1636
00:42:32,660 --> 00:42:34,550
of showing like how she was raised.

1637
00:42:34,910 --> 00:42:34,940
Oh.

1638
00:42:34,970 --> 00:42:36,230
And like kind of showing all that.

1639
00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:37,460
And that's the thing we keep

1640
00:42:37,460 --> 00:42:38,679
saying is it doesn't excuse the

1641
00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:40,689
behavior, it's just explaining it.

1642
00:42:40,779 --> 00:42:41,199
Yeah.

1643
00:42:41,204 --> 00:42:42,009
Where this, I feel like the

1644
00:42:42,009 --> 00:42:43,479
first season of White Lotus had a

1645
00:42:43,479 --> 00:42:44,919
mother-in-law like this where she

1646
00:42:44,919 --> 00:42:46,419
showed up on their honeymoon, right?

1647
00:42:46,636 --> 00:42:47,192
In Hawaii.

1648
00:42:47,252 --> 00:42:47,852
Wait, yeah.

1649
00:42:47,852 --> 00:42:48,362
I'm trying to think.

1650
00:42:48,412 --> 00:42:49,492
I love White Lotus.

1651
00:42:49,522 --> 00:42:50,692
I'm trying to think of It's the best.

1652
00:42:50,692 --> 00:42:52,136
It's, yeah, the first season was in

1653
00:42:52,136 --> 00:42:53,736
Hawaii and there was, that couple

1654
00:42:53,736 --> 00:42:55,497
where the, husband was kind of a jerk

1655
00:42:55,497 --> 00:42:58,111
and his mom shows up on the honeymoon.

1656
00:42:58,327 --> 00:42:59,654
And the mom was played by

1657
00:42:59,684 --> 00:43:01,184
somebody from SNLI wanna say.

1658
00:43:01,396 --> 00:43:02,866
like who was the cast?

1659
00:43:03,067 --> 00:43:04,492
That was the one with, Aubrey.

1660
00:43:04,492 --> 00:43:05,062
What's her name?

1661
00:43:05,306 --> 00:43:07,136
I'm so bad at remembering actors' names.

1662
00:43:07,496 --> 00:43:08,516
Um, Aubrey Plaza.

1663
00:43:08,777 --> 00:43:12,024
Yeah, she was, or was she in the second

1664
00:43:12,024 --> 00:43:14,047
season in, Italy, I think, right?

1665
00:43:14,047 --> 00:43:14,317
Oh yeah,

1666
00:43:14,317 --> 00:43:14,707
that's right.

1667
00:43:14,707 --> 00:43:14,917
Yeah.

1668
00:43:14,922 --> 00:43:15,082
Was

1669
00:43:15,082 --> 00:43:15,487
it Italy?

1670
00:43:15,751 --> 00:43:16,367
Wait, hold on.

1671
00:43:16,397 --> 00:43:16,637
Yeah.

1672
00:43:16,637 --> 00:43:17,507
Italy was season two.

1673
00:43:17,567 --> 00:43:18,737
Thailand was season three.

1674
00:43:18,737 --> 00:43:18,797
Yeah.

1675
00:43:18,971 --> 00:43:19,421
Oh my gosh.

1676
00:43:19,674 --> 00:43:20,304
Yes.

1677
00:43:20,364 --> 00:43:21,564
the one with Molly Shannon.

1678
00:43:21,744 --> 00:43:23,324
Molly Shannon played the mother-in-law.

1679
00:43:23,474 --> 00:43:24,044
Exactly.

1680
00:43:24,074 --> 00:43:24,974
Oh my gosh.

1681
00:43:25,244 --> 00:43:25,334
Yeah.

1682
00:43:25,334 --> 00:43:26,024
I need to go back and watch it,

1683
00:43:26,024 --> 00:43:27,794
but showed up on the honeymoon.

1684
00:43:27,854 --> 00:43:29,414
Yeah, you gotta go back and watch it.

1685
00:43:29,564 --> 00:43:30,614
Oh, that's wild.

1686
00:43:30,614 --> 00:43:32,704
I kind of forgot about that storyline,

1687
00:43:32,761 --> 00:43:34,106
that one was probably the best season.

1688
00:43:34,692 --> 00:43:35,412
It was so good.

1689
00:43:35,442 --> 00:43:36,282
They're all so good.

1690
00:43:36,282 --> 00:43:37,452
They're all so good.

1691
00:43:37,512 --> 00:43:37,962
Yeah.

1692
00:43:38,193 --> 00:43:39,106
I have to go back and watch that.

1693
00:43:39,297 --> 00:43:41,700
It is like a very popular trope of Yes.

1694
00:43:41,730 --> 00:43:44,070
That she can't distance herself.

1695
00:43:44,250 --> 00:43:44,310
yeah.

1696
00:43:44,310 --> 00:43:45,510
She can't let go of her son.

1697
00:43:45,710 --> 00:43:46,160
Mm-hmm.

1698
00:43:46,601 --> 00:43:48,437
And especially like this one, it shows

1699
00:43:48,437 --> 00:43:50,090
like both of her ex-husbands are there

1700
00:43:50,090 --> 00:43:51,710
with their new wife, so I'm sure that

1701
00:43:51,710 --> 00:43:53,973
adds to the like, I need you son.

1702
00:43:54,008 --> 00:43:55,357
Like, you're my man.

1703
00:43:55,357 --> 00:43:56,167
You're my guy.

1704
00:43:56,287 --> 00:43:56,737
Yes.

1705
00:43:56,737 --> 00:43:56,917
Which

1706
00:43:56,917 --> 00:43:59,437
is also just so creepy and weird.

1707
00:43:59,631 --> 00:43:59,931
Yeah.

1708
00:43:59,931 --> 00:44:01,621
It's that enmeshment of yes.

1709
00:44:01,621 --> 00:44:02,461
You can't see herself as

1710
00:44:02,461 --> 00:44:04,351
a separate person from.

1711
00:44:04,815 --> 00:44:05,569
Exactly.

1712
00:44:05,826 --> 00:44:06,326
she said the hotel.

1713
00:44:06,326 --> 00:44:06,356
Okay.

1714
00:44:06,356 --> 00:44:07,076
We're not even done with

1715
00:44:07,076 --> 00:44:07,706
the story yet.

1716
00:44:07,736 --> 00:44:07,916
Okay.

1717
00:44:07,916 --> 00:44:08,246
Keep going.

1718
00:44:08,246 --> 00:44:09,086
No, there's a little bit more.

1719
00:44:09,506 --> 00:44:09,926
Okay.

1720
00:44:10,152 --> 00:44:11,456
She said the hotel staff was

1721
00:44:11,456 --> 00:44:12,956
just standing there wide-eyed.

1722
00:44:13,171 --> 00:44:14,435
We go to the front desk.

1723
00:44:14,435 --> 00:44:16,295
The woman working had seen

1724
00:44:16,295 --> 00:44:18,155
everything and was incredibly kind.

1725
00:44:18,408 --> 00:44:19,981
We asked her to call my mother-in-law's

1726
00:44:19,981 --> 00:44:21,271
room since she was ignoring our

1727
00:44:21,271 --> 00:44:22,981
calls, so she literally ran away

1728
00:44:22,981 --> 00:44:24,421
with their keys to her room.

1729
00:44:24,451 --> 00:44:24,511
Wow.

1730
00:44:25,220 --> 00:44:25,988
She does.

1731
00:44:25,988 --> 00:44:27,668
And when my husband gets on the phone, my

1732
00:44:27,668 --> 00:44:29,978
mother-in-law is yelling so loudly that

1733
00:44:29,978 --> 00:44:32,258
people can hear her without speakerphone.

1734
00:44:32,801 --> 00:44:34,838
She refuses to return the keys.

1735
00:44:35,031 --> 00:44:36,128
At this point, we're wasting

1736
00:44:36,128 --> 00:44:37,178
our honeymoon morning.

1737
00:44:37,387 --> 00:44:38,744
So we text her, leave the

1738
00:44:38,744 --> 00:44:39,824
keys at the front desk.

1739
00:44:40,004 --> 00:44:41,144
They know it's our car.

1740
00:44:41,367 --> 00:44:43,324
If not, we'll file a police report.

1741
00:44:43,616 --> 00:44:44,846
We pack up and decide

1742
00:44:44,846 --> 00:44:46,346
to take my car instead.

1743
00:44:46,516 --> 00:44:47,739
At least they both have a car there.

1744
00:44:47,979 --> 00:44:49,956
As we head toward the lot, I suddenly hear

1745
00:44:49,956 --> 00:44:53,226
my husband say, Kat, get in the car now.

1746
00:44:53,449 --> 00:44:54,902
I run to the car.

1747
00:44:55,089 --> 00:44:56,749
And just in time to see her

1748
00:44:56,749 --> 00:44:58,982
sprinting towards him, and she

1749
00:44:58,982 --> 00:45:01,532
throws the keys at his face.

1750
00:45:04,922 --> 00:45:06,122
this is wild.

1751
00:45:06,122 --> 00:45:07,892
I'm like picturing this in like a parking

1752
00:45:07,892 --> 00:45:07,982
lot.

1753
00:45:07,982 --> 00:45:08,972
Wow.

1754
00:45:09,132 --> 00:45:11,082
the words that I wanna use right now are

1755
00:45:11,082 --> 00:45:14,652
not suitable for podcasts, but Oh wow.

1756
00:45:14,853 --> 00:45:16,102
Oh my gosh.

1757
00:45:16,279 --> 00:45:18,166
that is insane.

1758
00:45:18,404 --> 00:45:19,369
It's because she didn't

1759
00:45:19,369 --> 00:45:20,089
get what she wanted.

1760
00:45:20,089 --> 00:45:20,839
She thought by them

1761
00:45:21,049 --> 00:45:23,106
saying like she thought.

1762
00:45:23,341 --> 00:45:24,835
By her withholding the keys.

1763
00:45:24,835 --> 00:45:25,915
They'd be like, okay, you know what, we'll

1764
00:45:25,915 --> 00:45:26,335
take you.

1765
00:45:26,395 --> 00:45:27,685
They'd have to do what she wanted

1766
00:45:27,685 --> 00:45:29,545
and good for them, honestly, as

1767
00:45:29,545 --> 00:45:31,255
a team for setting a boundary.

1768
00:45:31,255 --> 00:45:33,122
Because issues with in-laws come up

1769
00:45:33,212 --> 00:45:34,682
all the time, all day, every day.

1770
00:45:34,682 --> 00:45:35,012
Right.

1771
00:45:35,012 --> 00:45:37,262
And like when it comes to a marriage,

1772
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,658
a marriage is different than just

1773
00:45:38,691 --> 00:45:40,221
being boyfriend girlfriend or dating

1774
00:45:40,221 --> 00:45:42,455
someone because you really, really

1775
00:45:42,455 --> 00:45:44,735
have to have each other's back first

1776
00:45:44,833 --> 00:45:46,495
before anyone else in your life.

1777
00:45:46,525 --> 00:45:47,935
That's what makes marriage work.

1778
00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:51,251
And, avoid talking about tough stuff

1779
00:45:51,251 --> 00:45:52,371
that you're going through with them, with

1780
00:45:52,371 --> 00:45:54,099
your family, even a lot of your friends,

1781
00:45:54,099 --> 00:45:56,462
because it's gonna set up this sort of

1782
00:45:56,462 --> 00:45:59,356
like, me versus him, kind of a dynamic.

1783
00:45:59,499 --> 00:45:59,579
Yeah.

1784
00:45:59,579 --> 00:46:00,539
When you're really, I

1785
00:46:00,539 --> 00:46:01,769
love what this couple did.

1786
00:46:01,769 --> 00:46:02,819
They stuck together.

1787
00:46:02,899 --> 00:46:04,369
they called the bluff.

1788
00:46:04,606 --> 00:46:05,736
They were like, look, we're not gonna

1789
00:46:05,736 --> 00:46:07,806
let your tantrum throw off our day.

1790
00:46:07,982 --> 00:46:09,606
leave our keys or, you know,

1791
00:46:09,646 --> 00:46:11,459
we'll act accordingly and.

1792
00:46:11,736 --> 00:46:13,547
It worked like good for them.

1793
00:46:13,607 --> 00:46:16,127
That was like honestly some of the best

1794
00:46:16,127 --> 00:46:18,647
like training for marriage right there.

1795
00:46:18,647 --> 00:46:19,881
and they passed the test.

1796
00:46:19,941 --> 00:46:21,411
They leaped over that hurdle.

1797
00:46:21,441 --> 00:46:22,992
Literally they did it, they really

1798
00:46:22,992 --> 00:46:24,492
did handle it very well of just

1799
00:46:24,492 --> 00:46:25,632
being like, you know what, like

1800
00:46:25,824 --> 00:46:27,481
almost treating it like, a toddler.

1801
00:46:27,724 --> 00:46:27,901
Okay.

1802
00:46:27,901 --> 00:46:28,141
Yeah.

1803
00:46:28,141 --> 00:46:29,251
If you're gonna act that way, we're gonna

1804
00:46:29,251 --> 00:46:30,631
just figure out, we're gonna keep going

1805
00:46:30,631 --> 00:46:32,687
this way because you're just not Sorry.

1806
00:46:32,687 --> 00:46:33,047
You know what

1807
00:46:33,047 --> 00:46:33,767
I wanna do?

1808
00:46:33,977 --> 00:46:35,014
I don't know if you can do this, but

1809
00:46:35,014 --> 00:46:36,424
like I would really love to send them a

1810
00:46:36,424 --> 00:46:38,644
little gift and like congratulate them on

1811
00:46:38,644 --> 00:46:40,264
getting through that in a graceful way.

1812
00:46:40,511 --> 00:46:41,097
I'll have to see.

1813
00:46:41,097 --> 00:46:41,307
Yeah.

1814
00:46:41,307 --> 00:46:42,267
When they like sent it.

1815
00:46:42,267 --> 00:46:43,797
I do have their, this person's

1816
00:46:43,797 --> 00:46:44,637
information, so I'll have to

1817
00:46:44,637 --> 00:46:46,167
see like when they sent it.

1818
00:46:46,167 --> 00:46:47,321
But we have these really

1819
00:46:47,321 --> 00:46:48,881
sweet Honey Ben Stanley's

1820
00:46:49,057 --> 00:46:49,791
that we could send them.

1821
00:46:49,911 --> 00:46:50,331
Oh, cute.

1822
00:46:51,051 --> 00:46:51,951
Oh, I love that.

1823
00:46:52,041 --> 00:46:52,851
That's so cute.

1824
00:46:53,094 --> 00:46:54,984
She then storms off again.

1825
00:46:55,044 --> 00:46:56,064
I check on him.

1826
00:46:56,064 --> 00:46:57,174
We get in the car and

1827
00:46:57,174 --> 00:46:58,404
finally we drive off.

1828
00:46:58,404 --> 00:47:00,247
Still married, still heading to our

1829
00:47:00,247 --> 00:47:02,467
honeymoon, but absolutely stunned.

1830
00:47:02,724 --> 00:47:04,337
And sadly, this wasn't the last

1831
00:47:04,337 --> 00:47:06,281
of it over the past 10 years.

1832
00:47:06,311 --> 00:47:06,491
Okay.

1833
00:47:06,491 --> 00:47:07,571
So this was 10 years ago.

1834
00:47:07,571 --> 00:47:07,841
Wow.

1835
00:47:08,381 --> 00:47:08,711
Oh my God.

1836
00:47:08,861 --> 00:47:09,071
Noticed.

1837
00:47:09,071 --> 00:47:10,031
This was 10 years ago.

1838
00:47:10,221 --> 00:47:12,554
We've dealt with stunt after stunt,

1839
00:47:12,644 --> 00:47:14,534
emotional manipulation, dramatic

1840
00:47:14,534 --> 00:47:16,874
scenes, chaos at every family gathering.

1841
00:47:17,054 --> 00:47:18,481
But this was the first

1842
00:47:18,481 --> 00:47:19,651
of many wild moments.

1843
00:47:19,651 --> 00:47:21,031
She's thrown our way.

1844
00:47:21,291 --> 00:47:23,057
And finally, this year, for the sake of

1845
00:47:23,057 --> 00:47:24,887
our children, we've made the decision

1846
00:47:24,887 --> 00:47:26,837
to significantly limit contact.

1847
00:47:27,064 --> 00:47:27,831
Wow.

1848
00:47:27,861 --> 00:47:31,821
So it took 10 years of manipulation

1849
00:47:31,821 --> 00:47:34,121
and dramatic scenes, all that stuff to

1850
00:47:34,121 --> 00:47:36,011
finally be like, okay, you're limited.

1851
00:47:36,287 --> 00:47:37,231
I don't even know if I'd want someone

1852
00:47:37,231 --> 00:47:38,401
like that around my children knowing

1853
00:47:38,401 --> 00:47:39,961
they're gonna throw something or

1854
00:47:40,144 --> 00:47:40,787
It's hard.

1855
00:47:40,907 --> 00:47:41,177
Yeah.

1856
00:47:41,177 --> 00:47:41,627
It's hard

1857
00:47:41,627 --> 00:47:41,897
having

1858
00:47:41,897 --> 00:47:43,607
problematic grandparents.

1859
00:47:43,797 --> 00:47:45,277
The kids figure it out though, you

1860
00:47:45,277 --> 00:47:46,537
know, they make their own decisions.

1861
00:47:46,537 --> 00:47:47,527
Like, eh, we don't like

1862
00:47:47,527 --> 00:47:48,427
hanging out with that person.

1863
00:47:48,787 --> 00:47:49,087
Yeah.

1864
00:47:49,087 --> 00:47:51,037
I feel like kids are so in tune to people.

1865
00:47:51,042 --> 00:47:51,312
Mm-hmm.

1866
00:47:51,392 --> 00:47:52,637
That they're just like, they

1867
00:47:52,637 --> 00:47:53,937
go with their gut for sure.

1868
00:47:53,937 --> 00:47:54,807
They're not like adults where we

1869
00:47:54,807 --> 00:47:57,014
can kind of like smile and be okay.

1870
00:47:57,014 --> 00:47:58,214
They're like, no, I don't want.

1871
00:47:58,468 --> 00:48:00,307
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1872
00:48:00,564 --> 00:48:02,244
so she just ends with saying, because

1873
00:48:02,244 --> 00:48:04,104
peace is better than chaos and eventually

1874
00:48:04,147 --> 00:48:05,857
boundaries have to be drawn, even

1875
00:48:05,857 --> 00:48:07,597
if it takes a decade to get there.

1876
00:48:07,807 --> 00:48:08,647
And then she said, PS I

1877
00:48:08,647 --> 00:48:09,427
love all your stories.

1878
00:48:09,427 --> 00:48:10,477
I relate to Sloan.

1879
00:48:10,702 --> 00:48:11,581
So the story I was telling you

1880
00:48:11,581 --> 00:48:12,957
about has Ferris and Sloan.

1881
00:48:12,957 --> 00:48:14,457
So she says, I relate to Sloane, which is.

1882
00:48:14,716 --> 00:48:15,029
Funny.

1883
00:48:15,259 --> 00:48:15,749
That's awesome.

1884
00:48:15,749 --> 00:48:16,139
Wow.

1885
00:48:16,199 --> 00:48:18,119
Well, that's a wild story.

1886
00:48:18,286 --> 00:48:19,268
the twist of the 10

1887
00:48:19,268 --> 00:48:20,378
years later at the end.

1888
00:48:20,378 --> 00:48:21,518
I was not expecting that.

1889
00:48:21,518 --> 00:48:22,178
That was great.

1890
00:48:22,298 --> 00:48:23,108
Yeah.

1891
00:48:23,274 --> 00:48:25,124
And I'm sure that image, is still

1892
00:48:25,124 --> 00:48:26,714
in her head so fresh because it

1893
00:48:26,714 --> 00:48:29,084
was such a high intense moment.

1894
00:48:29,261 --> 00:48:30,824
and I love how he protected

1895
00:48:30,854 --> 00:48:31,874
her too in those moments.

1896
00:48:31,874 --> 00:48:34,128
He was like, with her on the boundary,

1897
00:48:34,128 --> 00:48:36,104
he was like, I'm protecting you.

1898
00:48:36,194 --> 00:48:36,434
Yeah.

1899
00:48:36,681 --> 00:48:38,181
but I still have a lot of questions

1900
00:48:38,181 --> 00:48:40,128
like how you would keep, I mean,

1901
00:48:40,128 --> 00:48:41,691
I'm sure it's very nuanced and very

1902
00:48:41,691 --> 00:48:43,898
complicated, but it's like after that,

1903
00:48:43,898 --> 00:48:45,338
like what was the next step after that?

1904
00:48:45,608 --> 00:48:46,868
You know, they go on their honeymoon,

1905
00:48:46,873 --> 00:48:49,078
it's just like, is the mom still not

1906
00:48:49,078 --> 00:48:50,728
understanding she did anything wrong?

1907
00:48:50,788 --> 00:48:51,598
And yeah.

1908
00:48:51,598 --> 00:48:54,008
How you keep that going for 10 years?

1909
00:48:54,278 --> 00:48:56,948
It's so hard to like deal with

1910
00:48:57,131 --> 00:48:58,954
children in grownup bodies.

1911
00:49:00,949 --> 00:49:01,189
Yeah.

1912
00:49:01,249 --> 00:49:02,899
But I think having kids probably

1913
00:49:02,899 --> 00:49:04,279
gave them a new perspective on like

1914
00:49:04,279 --> 00:49:06,079
her behavior and like, oh, we're

1915
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:07,489
just actually dealing with a child

1916
00:49:07,489 --> 00:49:09,139
here, and you gotta have boundaries.

1917
00:49:09,371 --> 00:49:09,656
Yep.

1918
00:49:09,896 --> 00:49:10,316
Yeah.

1919
00:49:10,616 --> 00:49:11,366
Absolutely.

1920
00:49:11,644 --> 00:49:12,713
Well, all right, well,

1921
00:49:12,713 --> 00:49:14,123
thank you for sharing that story.

1922
00:49:14,123 --> 00:49:14,693
That was fun.

1923
00:49:14,723 --> 00:49:15,173
Yeah.

1924
00:49:15,563 --> 00:49:15,863
Yeah.

1925
00:49:15,863 --> 00:49:16,403
That was, I mean, not for

1926
00:49:16,403 --> 00:49:17,198
them, but, you know.

1927
00:49:17,813 --> 00:49:18,233
Yeah.

1928
00:49:19,231 --> 00:49:19,876
It's always like a

1929
00:49:19,876 --> 00:49:21,046
twisted and seen coming.

1930
00:49:21,096 --> 00:49:21,366
yeah.

1931
00:49:21,396 --> 00:49:22,536
But yeah, I know we get so many

1932
00:49:22,536 --> 00:49:23,556
stories and I'm always just

1933
00:49:23,556 --> 00:49:25,459
like, they shock me every time.

1934
00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:26,089
It's wild.

1935
00:49:26,119 --> 00:49:26,389
Wow.

1936
00:49:26,394 --> 00:49:26,574
Wow.

1937
00:49:26,703 --> 00:49:27,843
I feel like a lot of people tell me

1938
00:49:27,843 --> 00:49:29,283
too, they're like, it actually helped.

1939
00:49:29,483 --> 00:49:30,683
They'll say this like, helped

1940
00:49:30,683 --> 00:49:31,583
me to write it all out.

1941
00:49:31,583 --> 00:49:32,450
They're like, I never

1942
00:49:32,450 --> 00:49:34,040
told anyone it this way.

1943
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:34,100
Hmm.

1944
00:49:34,810 --> 00:49:36,933
it really helped me get through

1945
00:49:36,933 --> 00:49:38,223
my feelings or understand like,

1946
00:49:38,253 --> 00:49:39,753
whoa, this was really toxic.

1947
00:49:39,973 --> 00:49:41,076
Because when you're in the moment,

1948
00:49:41,076 --> 00:49:42,483
sometimes you don't see it that way.

1949
00:49:42,483 --> 00:49:42,993
Oh, for sure.

1950
00:49:43,226 --> 00:49:44,143
lose perspective.

1951
00:49:44,383 --> 00:49:44,923
Yeah.

1952
00:49:45,206 --> 00:49:45,356
okay.

1953
00:49:45,356 --> 00:49:46,256
So I always like to end these

1954
00:49:46,256 --> 00:49:47,666
with a couple of confessions that

1955
00:49:47,666 --> 00:49:49,646
people send me on social media.

1956
00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:50,615
So let's read

1957
00:49:50,675 --> 00:49:52,115
Ooh Confessions.

1958
00:49:52,175 --> 00:49:52,655
I love it.

1959
00:49:52,936 --> 00:49:53,385
All right.

1960
00:49:53,445 --> 00:49:56,385
It says, at my sister's wedding, one of

1961
00:49:56,385 --> 00:49:58,515
her bridesmaids didn't get her a gift,

1962
00:49:58,515 --> 00:50:00,315
and I thought that was kind of weird.

1963
00:50:00,540 --> 00:50:01,618
What are your thoughts on that?

1964
00:50:01,618 --> 00:50:02,518
Like, if you're in

1965
00:50:02,518 --> 00:50:03,835
someone's wedding mm-hmm.

1966
00:50:03,835 --> 00:50:06,271
Should you automatically get them a gift?

1967
00:50:06,546 --> 00:50:07,993
there's more to consider in this

1968
00:50:07,993 --> 00:50:09,853
situation than just a typical wedding

1969
00:50:09,853 --> 00:50:11,443
guest, because that bridesmaid's already

1970
00:50:11,443 --> 00:50:13,373
gone to some, probably considerable

1971
00:50:13,373 --> 00:50:15,136
expense to bring the gift of her

1972
00:50:15,136 --> 00:50:16,426
presence to the wedding, right?

1973
00:50:16,660 --> 00:50:17,916
however, and I've been in that

1974
00:50:17,916 --> 00:50:19,596
situation at a time in my life, in

1975
00:50:19,596 --> 00:50:20,886
my twenties when I didn't really

1976
00:50:20,886 --> 00:50:22,266
have a lot of money to get a gift.

1977
00:50:22,483 --> 00:50:24,006
But what I would do is I would

1978
00:50:24,006 --> 00:50:26,177
like, make something, or buy

1979
00:50:26,177 --> 00:50:27,287
something similar to what they

1980
00:50:27,287 --> 00:50:28,907
registered for that I could afford.

1981
00:50:29,130 --> 00:50:32,187
I think just the token gift, something

1982
00:50:32,187 --> 00:50:34,634
meaningful and like, personal mm-hmm.

1983
00:50:34,874 --> 00:50:37,567
Shows that you are celebrating

1984
00:50:37,567 --> 00:50:39,494
their, day, with a gift.

1985
00:50:39,714 --> 00:50:41,364
But again, gift is always at

1986
00:50:41,364 --> 00:50:42,384
the discretion of the giver.

1987
00:50:42,384 --> 00:50:44,214
And if that bridesmaid really felt like

1988
00:50:44,214 --> 00:50:45,954
she poured her heart and her budget

1989
00:50:45,954 --> 00:50:47,634
into that person's wedding, and that

1990
00:50:47,634 --> 00:50:49,670
was the gift, I don't really think it's

1991
00:50:49,670 --> 00:50:51,200
something that you can hold against her.

1992
00:50:51,474 --> 00:50:51,857
Yeah.

1993
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:52,630
I agree.

1994
00:50:52,660 --> 00:50:54,100
I feel like that was so well said.

1995
00:50:54,100 --> 00:50:55,090
And I feel like there's been

1996
00:50:55,090 --> 00:50:57,024
weddings that, like were very DIY

1997
00:50:57,024 --> 00:50:58,074
that I was a part of, and I done

1998
00:50:58,104 --> 00:50:59,484
did so much, and I had the brides

1999
00:50:59,484 --> 00:51:01,044
be like, please don't get me a gift.

2000
00:51:01,177 --> 00:51:01,357
Yeah.

2001
00:51:01,357 --> 00:51:02,257
And even when I gave it to

2002
00:51:02,257 --> 00:51:03,247
them, they ripped up the check.

2003
00:51:03,247 --> 00:51:05,197
Like I, one in particular, she was like,

2004
00:51:05,197 --> 00:51:06,924
no, I'm literally not accepting this.

2005
00:51:07,416 --> 00:51:07,446
Aw.

2006
00:51:07,446 --> 00:51:08,526
And then I had other ones

2007
00:51:08,526 --> 00:51:09,946
that were like, same thing.

2008
00:51:09,946 --> 00:51:11,316
They were like, please don't feel like

2009
00:51:11,316 --> 00:51:12,926
you have to like, get me a gift that you

2010
00:51:12,926 --> 00:51:14,361
would as a guest because you've mm-hmm.

2011
00:51:14,441 --> 00:51:15,716
Been a part of the bachelorette party.

2012
00:51:15,716 --> 00:51:16,706
You bought a dress.

2013
00:51:16,887 --> 00:51:17,607
do think it's kind of

2014
00:51:17,607 --> 00:51:18,623
like, murky area there.

2015
00:51:18,623 --> 00:51:18,903
Mm-hmm.

2016
00:51:18,988 --> 00:51:20,548
If you wanna give a gift, do it.

2017
00:51:20,553 --> 00:51:20,729
Mm-hmm.

2018
00:51:20,798 --> 00:51:21,708
But I guess it doesn't feel like.

2019
00:51:22,053 --> 00:51:23,491
I know you do put in a lot being

2020
00:51:23,491 --> 00:51:24,541
in a wedding party as well.

2021
00:51:24,601 --> 00:51:24,751
Yeah.

2022
00:51:24,751 --> 00:51:24,871
And

2023
00:51:24,871 --> 00:51:26,281
I mean, you know, you can write the

2024
00:51:26,281 --> 00:51:27,938
bride and ice card and say, look, being

2025
00:51:27,938 --> 00:51:29,798
in your wedding has been such an honor.

2026
00:51:29,898 --> 00:51:31,458
unfortunately I'm out of budget for

2027
00:51:31,458 --> 00:51:33,048
like, something from your registry,

2028
00:51:33,048 --> 00:51:34,308
but I would love to give you this

2029
00:51:34,308 --> 00:51:36,378
handmade friendship bracelet to honor,

2030
00:51:36,414 --> 00:51:38,094
how much you mean to me or something.

2031
00:51:38,394 --> 00:51:38,604
Yeah.

2032
00:51:38,604 --> 00:51:39,984
You know, just anything personal.

2033
00:51:40,314 --> 00:51:41,124
Yeah, definitely.

2034
00:51:41,124 --> 00:51:41,184
Yeah,

2035
00:51:41,528 --> 00:51:42,896
because like, again, after my wedding,

2036
00:51:42,896 --> 00:51:44,770
I wasn't like checking the box of

2037
00:51:44,770 --> 00:51:46,760
like, oh, this bridesmaid or this

2038
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:47,990
groomsman didn't get us a gift.

2039
00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:49,325
Like, I was so happy to be

2040
00:51:49,325 --> 00:51:50,645
surrounded by our family and friends.

2041
00:51:50,645 --> 00:51:51,995
So that was not a concern to me.

2042
00:51:51,995 --> 00:51:52,877
They they got the dress.

2043
00:51:52,877 --> 00:51:54,454
I'm like, you guys are awesome.

2044
00:51:54,757 --> 00:51:56,257
okay, lemme just read a couple more.

2045
00:51:56,527 --> 00:51:58,167
my uncle invited random

2046
00:51:58,167 --> 00:51:59,727
strangers to my cocktail hour.

2047
00:52:03,502 --> 00:52:04,137
Was that cute?

2048
00:52:05,277 --> 00:52:06,797
I'm like, he's like, oh, I'm single.

2049
00:52:06,797 --> 00:52:07,337
I'm gonna

2050
00:52:07,547 --> 00:52:08,447
invite some people here.

2051
00:52:09,214 --> 00:52:10,277
I'm gonna bring some rows.

2052
00:52:13,637 --> 00:52:13,872
Oh my.

2053
00:52:13,877 --> 00:52:14,567
Was that it?

2054
00:52:14,815 --> 00:52:15,334
yeah, go ahead.

2055
00:52:15,458 --> 00:52:15,758
yeah.

2056
00:52:15,758 --> 00:52:16,868
No, it's just, that was it.

2057
00:52:17,048 --> 00:52:17,438
Okay.

2058
00:52:17,678 --> 00:52:18,608
oh, okay.

2059
00:52:18,728 --> 00:52:20,708
My uncle our cocktail hour.

2060
00:52:20,708 --> 00:52:22,298
So that's like after the ceremony.

2061
00:52:22,298 --> 00:52:23,738
Before the, yeah.

2062
00:52:24,398 --> 00:52:25,238
Huh.

2063
00:52:25,484 --> 00:52:27,350
did they stay for the reception or

2064
00:52:27,350 --> 00:52:28,345
are they just like hanging out just

2065
00:52:28,405 --> 00:52:29,640
so you free drinks, you're not allowed

2066
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,483
to invite your own people

2067
00:52:31,483 --> 00:52:32,293
to someone's wedding.

2068
00:52:32,323 --> 00:52:33,313
That's just a no-no.

2069
00:52:33,313 --> 00:52:34,160
Um, yeah, please don't

2070
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:34,460
do that.

2071
00:52:34,705 --> 00:52:36,553
If you wanna bring a date and

2072
00:52:36,553 --> 00:52:38,023
the date wasn't explicitly like

2073
00:52:38,042 --> 00:52:39,896
a plus one on the invitation.

2074
00:52:40,142 --> 00:52:42,066
I've been in situations where I

2075
00:52:42,066 --> 00:52:43,476
checked in with a couple about that.

2076
00:52:43,476 --> 00:52:44,706
Like, Hey, I'm not sure

2077
00:52:44,706 --> 00:52:45,696
the way this was written.

2078
00:52:45,696 --> 00:52:47,346
Is this a plus one or not?

2079
00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:49,360
but you don't get to make your own.

2080
00:52:49,971 --> 00:52:51,381
Invitations to someone's wedding.

2081
00:52:51,411 --> 00:52:53,181
It's just not the way it works.

2082
00:52:53,386 --> 00:52:53,818
Yeah.

2083
00:52:55,138 --> 00:52:56,728
One of our guests quit their

2084
00:52:56,728 --> 00:52:58,858
job to attend our wedding.

2085
00:52:59,228 --> 00:52:59,718
Whoa.

2086
00:53:00,035 --> 00:53:00,771
That's a friend.

2087
00:53:00,771 --> 00:53:03,081
I mean, hopefully, or maybe it was

2088
00:53:03,081 --> 00:53:05,025
like they were just done with this job.

2089
00:53:05,055 --> 00:53:05,265
Yeah.

2090
00:53:05,265 --> 00:53:05,865
And they were like, you can't

2091
00:53:05,865 --> 00:53:06,795
take off for the wedding.

2092
00:53:06,795 --> 00:53:08,175
And they were kinda like, screw you.

2093
00:53:08,985 --> 00:53:09,795
That, that's kind of what I'm

2094
00:53:09,795 --> 00:53:10,905
thinking must have happened, because

2095
00:53:10,905 --> 00:53:11,985
I've heard of that, where they're

2096
00:53:11,985 --> 00:53:13,155
just like, this is my moment.

2097
00:53:13,155 --> 00:53:14,625
Like, I'm not missing my best

2098
00:53:14,625 --> 00:53:15,855
friend's wedding or something.

2099
00:53:16,125 --> 00:53:16,315
Yeah.

2100
00:53:16,315 --> 00:53:18,921
But like, obviously it sucks when you

2101
00:53:18,921 --> 00:53:20,675
can't be in two places at once and there

2102
00:53:20,675 --> 00:53:22,325
are weddings that I did not go to that I

2103
00:53:22,325 --> 00:53:24,575
still regret to this day not being there.

2104
00:53:24,575 --> 00:53:25,805
But there was nothing I could do.

2105
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,480
I was pregnant and I couldn't fly or

2106
00:53:27,710 --> 00:53:29,210
don't do something like that unless you

2107
00:53:29,210 --> 00:53:30,890
already wanted to quit and you got a plan

2108
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,810
to like go get another job or whatever.

2109
00:53:32,810 --> 00:53:33,830
And then you wanna take a few

2110
00:53:33,830 --> 00:53:35,180
days off to like rage with your

2111
00:53:35,180 --> 00:53:36,290
friends while they get married.

2112
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:36,820
Cool.

2113
00:53:36,915 --> 00:53:37,605
all for it.

2114
00:53:37,610 --> 00:53:37,770
Yeah.

2115
00:53:37,917 --> 00:53:38,212
Yeah.

2116
00:53:38,212 --> 00:53:39,562
Honestly, that sounds like something

2117
00:53:39,562 --> 00:53:41,212
I would've done like maybe in my

2118
00:53:41,212 --> 00:53:42,652
early twenties if I was just like

2119
00:53:42,682 --> 00:53:44,422
already over a toxic job or something.

2120
00:53:44,422 --> 00:53:44,962
Something a hundred percent.

2121
00:53:45,022 --> 00:53:45,172
Yes.

2122
00:53:45,287 --> 00:53:47,040
Like, get me out of here.

2123
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,480
You know what, that was my sign.

2124
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:48,490
Yeah.

2125
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:49,407
and then you could, it's

2126
00:53:49,407 --> 00:53:50,157
kind of a fun story.

2127
00:53:50,157 --> 00:53:50,667
Like, oh yeah.

2128
00:53:50,667 --> 00:53:52,257
You know, I quit my job for these guys.

2129
00:53:52,257 --> 00:53:53,727
you tell it for the rest of your life.

2130
00:53:53,870 --> 00:53:54,267
Whatever.

2131
00:53:54,267 --> 00:53:54,807
Yeah.

2132
00:53:54,927 --> 00:53:56,127
True friend right here.

2133
00:53:56,157 --> 00:53:56,577
Yeah.

2134
00:53:56,727 --> 00:53:56,907
Yeah.

2135
00:53:57,597 --> 00:53:58,527
Oh my gosh.

2136
00:53:58,757 --> 00:54:00,364
Well thank you so much for coming on.

2137
00:54:00,364 --> 00:54:01,976
It was so great meeting you after knowing

2138
00:54:01,976 --> 00:54:04,162
so much about your brand and your company.

2139
00:54:04,269 --> 00:54:04,899
I just think it's great.

2140
00:54:04,899 --> 00:54:05,806
I've talked about Honey

2141
00:54:05,806 --> 00:54:07,126
Fund and Honeymoons.

2142
00:54:07,322 --> 00:54:09,219
so many times on the podcast of just, I

2143
00:54:09,219 --> 00:54:12,169
think it's such a fun concept and how like

2144
00:54:12,169 --> 00:54:13,759
we're just kind of changing the concept

2145
00:54:13,759 --> 00:54:15,649
over time of like gift giving as well.

2146
00:54:16,171 --> 00:54:16,942
Thank you Krista.

2147
00:54:16,972 --> 00:54:18,952
Thank you for being a fan and supporting

2148
00:54:18,952 --> 00:54:21,432
the cause and yeah, this was so much fun,

2149
00:54:21,432 --> 00:54:23,022
such a different kind of podcast than

2150
00:54:23,022 --> 00:54:24,642
I've ever been on before and I loved it.

2151
00:54:24,702 --> 00:54:25,842
Thank you so much for having me.

2152
00:54:25,842 --> 00:54:25,872
Oh

2153
00:54:25,932 --> 00:54:26,292
good.

2154
00:54:26,579 --> 00:54:27,566
And for everyone listening,

2155
00:54:27,566 --> 00:54:28,916
where can they follow you?

2156
00:54:28,946 --> 00:54:31,092
Follow Honey Fund and see

2157
00:54:31,092 --> 00:54:32,352
what's coming up next?

2158
00:54:32,576 --> 00:54:34,806
Yeah, well, honey honeyfund.com

2159
00:54:34,866 --> 00:54:36,156
you can download the app in the app

2160
00:54:36,156 --> 00:54:39,066
stores, follow us on Instagram, TikTok.

2161
00:54:39,116 --> 00:54:39,776
I would say we're most

2162
00:54:39,776 --> 00:54:40,916
active on those platforms.

2163
00:54:40,916 --> 00:54:42,650
And then if you're interested in,

2164
00:54:42,733 --> 00:54:44,443
entrepreneurship or other things like

2165
00:54:44,443 --> 00:54:45,973
that, you could find me on LinkedIn.

2166
00:54:46,003 --> 00:54:48,093
I write a lot of, content around,

2167
00:54:48,170 --> 00:54:49,490
running a business and, you know,

2168
00:54:49,490 --> 00:54:52,326
travel and relationships and

2169
00:54:52,390 --> 00:54:53,350
I'd love to connect with you.

2170
00:54:53,603 --> 00:54:54,023
Awesome.

2171
00:54:54,305 --> 00:54:55,457
Well thank you so much.

2172
00:54:55,695 --> 00:54:56,523
Thanks Krista.

2173
00:54:56,523 --> 00:54:57,363
Have a great day.

2174
00:54:57,527 --> 00:54:58,273
You too.