[SPEAKER_00]: Hey everybody, JJ Cooper Bill Mitchell, another of the Baseball America, prospect podcast deep dive.

[SPEAKER_00]: Today we are diving deep into the Chicago White Sox system.

[SPEAKER_00]: The White Sox, obviously, at the big league level, it has been a pretty bleak couple years, let's just be honest, but I would say if you're a White Sox fan.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's some hope now.

[SPEAKER_00]: You look at a couple years ago and a couple years ago, I think you could describe it as the big league club was, obviously, one of the worst we've seen in a very long time.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then you would say at the minor league level, there were a lot of questions.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, since then,

[SPEAKER_00]: The big league club, they have added, you know, some, some, they've made improvements, they really did a good job in the role 5 draft last year, Shane Smith ended up being a quite a fine and Mike Vassal as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: So Montgomery comes up to the big leagues and really had, I would say kind of a a season and the big leagues better than the season before he had in AAA, which is also a big credit and better defensively than expected as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot there to be kind of positive about going forward.

[SPEAKER_00]: And now that we're going to dive into though is his bill, when you look at this farm system as a whole,

[SPEAKER_00]: Where kind of do you feel like the farm system is right now?

[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like they have some pictures who are really still promising, but didn't have great years last year, but now you add in that you also had some position players who I feel like did have kind of that year that you wanted to see kind of those breakout years.

[SPEAKER_01]: I like their top 10 and especially when you've had how many players they've graduated too.

[SPEAKER_01]: They have acquired a lot of good prospects to trade and you have a Kyle Teele, Chase Mydraff, Mike Vassol, there's a couple more than I'm not remembering right now that have Grant Edgar Kiro.

[SPEAKER_01]: have graduated, but yet the top 10 is still good.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think it follows off compared to other organizations after that, but there is still some talent there, some interesting talent.

[SPEAKER_00]: So the first question we ask is how difficult decision to rank the number one prospect.

[SPEAKER_00]: In this case, it's no assaults left under no assaults.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I would say that this is a case where it was both easy and hard out imagine because obviously Schultz is very promising.

[SPEAKER_00]: But he had an injury last year.

[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't have as he did go deeper in gains, but he didn't have as dominating a season last year as he had had the year before.

[SPEAKER_00]: But what did you see with Schultz and how easy was that call?

[SPEAKER_01]: I really had to give it some thought and talk to people and maybe my good trait that I have were also a fault is I get loyal to the prospects and if there's an injury that is affected them.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I, I take that into consideration, and he, he had the recurring patella tenderness, tendonitis and his right knee, and it was his landing knee, you know what, that's the effect of picture.

[SPEAKER_01]: And his walk rates were up, his fastball and slider velocity was down, and he just never got right at the end.

[SPEAKER_01]: They shut him down instead of sending him to the following.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I kind of gave him a molligan for that season last year and kept him at number one.

[SPEAKER_01]: With that said, 2026 is going to be a big proving year for him.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's got to show that he's healthy, and it's not a chronic problem.

[SPEAKER_01]: As you said, he still needs to get deeper into games.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll know if Schultz be the top prospect after this year.

[SPEAKER_01]: Time will tell, although when we get talking about who will be number one next year, I've got some opinions on that.

[SPEAKER_01]: really show is he still what we think or there are scouts that I've talked to even going back when he first came up they said I think it's a reliever long term and one scout put a Zack Britain compound at least ways that Britain was when he's with the Orioles so yeah if he doesn't get deeper in the start is that his role

[SPEAKER_00]: The tricky part with him to me is when you look at how big he is, six foot 10, and you look at how young he is.

[SPEAKER_00]: He is basically of the age where he would still be, he would not look out place if he was in this year's draft class.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you combine kind of those two combinations, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: I do

[SPEAKER_00]: If I was the white socks, which obviously there's some art enough not to have me making decisions for them, but you know, you've got a 22 year old here, 610, I would like looking long term

[SPEAKER_00]: I very much feel like it would not shock me if the best that we are going to see out of no assault is still five years away.

[SPEAKER_00]: That wouldn't be crazy because long-leavered pictures understandably may need to take.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that to the wife sucks, it's been careful with them.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like you said, this is the guy who didn't throw more than four innings in a start until this year.

[SPEAKER_00]: Especially, you can be pitching in Charlotte.

[SPEAKER_00]: Charlotte is a brutal place to pitch.

[SPEAKER_00]: It is the, it is the Pacific coast league of the international league.

[SPEAKER_00]: It is the Las Vegas or the course field of the, of the IL.

[SPEAKER_00]: Even if it has some Rocky moments this year, I would just kind of say like, hey, the upside here is really immense and.

[SPEAKER_00]: It looked at, I always, I've overused this, but look at Randy Johnson's development path and look at how far ahead this six foot 10 lefty is to where Randy Johnson was at this point in his development.

[SPEAKER_00]: Where Randy Johnson was walking like eight, you just got drafted out of USC at this point.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it was walking like seven and a half to eight per nine innings at this point.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't gonna be years before he was gonna get to fringe average control.

[SPEAKER_00]: How much like you said you did a lot of reporting

[SPEAKER_00]: the knee, like he wasn't fully healthy, how much did that kind of play into what we saw also?

[SPEAKER_00]: It's always hard to tell, but do you feel like we really kind of got kind of best no assaults much at all last year?

[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't think so.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you took the words on him, I was bringing up Randy Johnson.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to bring up that comparison.

[SPEAKER_01]: Not that I'm saying he's going to have a Randy Johnson career, but Paul left handed with the same arm slot.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're right.

[SPEAKER_01]: The best may be further down the road for him.

[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like, and when you and I did the Royal's podcast, I brought up Stephen Zobach who did not have a good year.

[SPEAKER_01]: And again, it was a problem with his landing me.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to affect a picture when it throws off their whole delivery and the fact that that lingered all season was a kept re recurring.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we did not see the best in Noah Schultz this year.

[SPEAKER_01]: Will we in 2026?

[SPEAKER_01]: That's why we're all waiting to see.

[SPEAKER_00]: And again, but even if we don't see the best of Noah Schultz as a 22 turning 23 year old in

[SPEAKER_00]: Lefty's who throw like this, like at his best, he has some of the best stuff we see in the minors and at his best, like you said, we're not neither of us is comparing him to Randy Johnson, but you do hear people bring up Randy Johnson, because there just aren't many pictures.

[SPEAKER_00]: who've ever pit, who look like this, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like he is the closest analog you can come up with because if you search your database for six foot, 10 lefties with that arm slot, they're just aren't many of, you know?

[SPEAKER_00]: And like say, six, 10, I'll be interested to see every time I feel like that no shells get measured.

[SPEAKER_00]: we end up like that height kind of goes up.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see, you know, they, they, I guess so, you may not have to be accurately measured though.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's not stepping in about his box, so they don't need to have his accurate measurements for the ABS challenge system.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's not, uh, that's not something they need to worry about.

[SPEAKER_01]: I did ask that question because I heard he had grown an inch and I was trying to get an exact height as he Six eleven now and it was around the same time.

[SPEAKER_01]: I had gone to a Phoenix Sunsking when it playing the spurs and I'd heard the Victor Wembaiana had grown Now, you know, from where I was sitting.

[SPEAKER_01]: I had no, you know, all I could tell was he was tall.

[SPEAKER_01]: I could tell he was really tall Yes, so you know, I think he's more than seven three now, but Yeah, when spring training minor league spring training games had going or

[SPEAKER_00]: uh... no one may be throwing in some big league games i want to try to get to see him and then just see what how he looks is here so looking as a system as a whole like you said the top ten drill a good after that drop saw i would say the system's probably a little bit weaker than it was a year ago just from graduations could be seen you just hit it and we could rather off in addition to okay we didn't have to change the referendum's high as he ended up being value wise last year because it was a rule five pick um...

[SPEAKER_00]: But I would say, we did see graduating Quero, Calteal, Colson McGummery, that to me, like, that leaves a mark, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: So is the system to you overall better, weaker?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, how do you kind of perceive the difference?

[SPEAKER_01]: I think just because they,

[SPEAKER_01]: they did graduate so many.

[SPEAKER_01]: It is I believe a little weaker, but let's see what they got out of the draft.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like the high school picks that they made.

[SPEAKER_01]: They took Billy Carlson, number one, Jaden Foski, number two, Carlson, Deaths Valley, needs to some swing changes, and the work that but he's still, he has a heart that great is good.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's got power.

[SPEAKER_01]: He just needs to smooth out that swing

[SPEAKER_01]: He's a major league defender now, even coming out of high school.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's a 70 defender with a 70 arm.

[SPEAKER_01]: He could play major league defense right now.

[SPEAKER_01]: Foski is one to watch.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know he had a football injury that affected him.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I was at,

[SPEAKER_01]: One of the few times I saw him in late in the bridge league, I had a scout from another team kind of cycle up to me and quietly say, after watching Fileskese, we didn't have him high enough on our draft board.

[SPEAKER_01]: So there's something there, and I think that's going to take some time.

[SPEAKER_01]: Landon Hodges even further away, and as a high school catcher, he's got to develop.

[SPEAKER_01]: What I'm not sure about yet is their college draft picks.

[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't get to see any other pictures.

[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't throw any of their pictures after the draft.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I'd like to see more of what they got from college players before we really decide how good is this system now.

[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing that jumps out is, there are some arms here, I feel like that kind of like, we've already seen Tanner McDougle in the very early going here in spring training, touching close to 101, 100.7, I think, and sitting very, you know, kind of high 90s, Christian Opera has been kind of intriguing at times.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there are, in addition to that kind of, the top level names that we talk about, there are some other guys here who kind of are,

[SPEAKER_00]: intriguing to see kind of where they're going to fit how they're going to fit in.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I do want to also kind of touch on because we've got a couple of other of these guys who are probably like Hagen Smith could be still not graduated this time next year.

[SPEAKER_00]: But man, I would hope for for his sake, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like you talk about a first round collage arm like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: You got a lot of good feedback, like AFL, like he made some delivery changes, and also I did want to spend a little bit time on Hagen.

[SPEAKER_00]: And what did you see?

[SPEAKER_00]: What is the reporting that you got as far as kind of how he kind of improved late last year?

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he was throwing better strikes in Fall League.

[SPEAKER_01]: They're still the question on what is a third pitch going to be?

[SPEAKER_01]: How useful it would be.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I got a wide range of opinions on.

[SPEAKER_01]: Mostly positive evaluators that like them love them.

[SPEAKER_01]: They use that word, I love the guy.

[SPEAKER_01]: But then there's some that I'm not sure that how deep is he going to be able to go into games and is he a relief picture and I went to one of my most trusted scouts, you know, and of course we don't mention names, but I said, you know, tell me about the against Smith he said, I love him.

[SPEAKER_01]: I said, is he going to be developing into a starter as he will be able to pitch to he said, well, he doesn't and he goes to the bullpen.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's Billy Wagner.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now Billy Wagner is now on the Hall of Fame or about to be a Hall of Fame, so that's and maybe that was a little rich, but you get the idea and you said he may not graduate this year, I have no inside information on this, I don't you know, I haven't heard anything recent under plans.

[SPEAKER_01]: but you know, look what they did with Garrett Kershe, and look what they did last year with Grant Taylor.

[SPEAKER_01]: They get them to the big leagues as a reliever first and then push them into a starter room.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know that's their plan for Grant Taylor eventually.

[SPEAKER_01]: But it would not surprise me to see Hagen Smith pitching out of the White Sox bullpen, maybe not too far into the season.

[SPEAKER_00]: I could very much see that as well, like you get, we expect that he will graduate.

[SPEAKER_00]: The next question we always like to ask is, who could be next year's number one?

[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm putting this one on a T, because you mentioned Noah Schultz, who, by the way, will be in AAA, could graduate, but even if he doesn't graduate, there's a guy coming up behind him who could make a case for number one, I would imagine.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're talking about Caleb Bonner.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about two guys because Caleb Bonner.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we know that the white socks have the number one pick in the draft.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yes, would, yeah, I was going to say there's a short stop who might be moon number one on from that reason as well.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, unless something goes terribly wrong, I'm 95, I'll put 95% certainty

[SPEAKER_01]: Rochelowski will be their number one prospect at this point next year, even if they decide to save money and drop a few spots, you're still going to get a really good player, but you don't pass on a guy like Rochelowski.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that, you know, they've been blessed with this number one pick.

[SPEAKER_01]: They need to, you know, if everything is, if you go through with this college season,

[SPEAKER_01]: they need to go for Chalowski and pay slot and get him in the organization.

[SPEAKER_01]: So there's your number one pick for next year, guaranteed.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would say that again, Rochalowski.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's a reason if I'm a white sucks fan.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be watching UCLA.

[SPEAKER_00]: Highlights if you aren't paying any attention, Rochalowski in his first seven game to six homers, he is, and by the way, that is not against low level competition.

[SPEAKER_00]: They just swept PCU, which is a ranked team last weekend.

[SPEAKER_00]: So he has been great to start the year.

[SPEAKER_00]: He has been everything that we expected to see.

[SPEAKER_00]: If not a little bit more so far, nothing to dissuade that he is the clear consensus number one right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I also want to bring up like Caleb Bonnermer.

[SPEAKER_00]: had a really impressive 20, 25 season.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think is absolutely kind of one of the names to watch one of the prospects across baseball to watch for 20, 26.

[SPEAKER_00]: What did you get on bottom or when doing the process put together?

[SPEAKER_00]: that was pretty consistent.

[SPEAKER_01]: He is going to hit.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's mixed opinions on his defense.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've had good things.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've heard that he's definitely more of a third baseman in a short sub, but I also got opinions that I'd move him to the outfield, put him in La Field.

[SPEAKER_01]: And if you have Chilowski and Billy Carlson, you're going to need to find a spot for Bonham

[SPEAKER_01]: He certainly was a deserving number two prospect in that organization at this point.

[SPEAKER_00]: the way I would put it, this is actually a very good problem.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is the kind of problem that the white sucks have not had, which is, close to Montgomery, is that the big leagues?

[SPEAKER_00]: And very good, now, I'm a little worried, like again, there's a little bit more risk there for a guy who had a really good debut.

[SPEAKER_00]: The hit tool, there's real power.

[SPEAKER_00]: The hit tool is still a question, but defensively he looked better than expected I would say.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so you've got him.

[SPEAKER_00]: Then you've, as you said, you've got first round or last year, Billy Carlson, you've got Caleb Bonnermer, and we expect that you very well could add rock, glass, ski to that.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure that someone out there could be going, but that's a problem, they're all short stops.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that's actually not a problem at all because short stops are your Swiss army knives that can fill whatever role you need to much more than if you said, if we were talking about first base of in here, we'd be in a real trouble.

[SPEAKER_01]: And don't forget, they also have chased my broth that they got from Boston and became their first played shortstop until Montgomery came up and then moved to second base.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now his numbers don't blow your way, but he can become an on-base machine.

[SPEAKER_01]: Everything I've heard that we haven't seen the best of chase my broth yet.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it could be a crowded infield in a few years.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that kind of leads into the next question, which is, what is your organization good at developing?

[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to hear what you say, but I'll throw out there to start with that I actually want to think that I do like of what the white sucks have done in recent years.

[SPEAKER_00]: And there was digging up for a very, very deep hole.

[SPEAKER_00]: but something that has been oppressive to me is being willing to kind of examine all different ways to get better.

[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, I brought up the Rule Five draft, like getting actual value and real talent out of the Rule Five draft is hard to do.

[SPEAKER_00]: They did a good job in that Shane Smith, Mike Bassel.

[SPEAKER_00]: They've made trades and some of those trades, it's like, okay,

[SPEAKER_00]: They kind of said, let's acquire talent and we'll figure it out.

[SPEAKER_00]: They acquired Edgar Quero and Kyle Teal, and they're still figuring out, and probably you can throw Corey Lee, I guess, and that's somebody as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, okay, we'll figure out how our kitchen situation is gonna play out, but we're at a point where talent is most important.

[SPEAKER_00]: You talk about Chase Meadraw.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's other guys where it's like, they've been kind of doing, I feel like a solid job of raising the floor.

[SPEAKER_00]: The white socks had so many non-major league players playing major league games a couple of years ago.

[SPEAKER_00]: They haven't raised their stealing that much yet, but they have raised the floor I feel like where there are much more plausible big league players, big league caliber players filling this spot now than it was a couple of years ago.

[SPEAKER_00]: But what do you see as far as what is this organization good at developing?

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the improvements of Tanner McDougall and Christian Opor, who you mentioned, little logo, to me, that leans it towards developing pitching very, very well, although then you have to look at how they developed Caleb Bonhammer.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's pretty even as far as the developing hitters or pitchers.

[SPEAKER_01]: But again, McDougall, we had off the list.

[SPEAKER_01]: He couldn't throw strikes.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he threw hard.

[SPEAKER_01]: probably a year and a half ago.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now he's, I think I will number six on the list.

[SPEAKER_01]: And look, again, something happened there and then we're no longer looking at him and saying, oh, he's going to have to move to the bullpen.

[SPEAKER_01]: Christian Opor here is still development ahead with him, but he's a left-hander throws hard.

[SPEAKER_01]: Just, you know, again, like Medugal, he needs to throw more strikes,

[SPEAKER_01]: Another one name I'll put in there is I'm curious see how he does now as Matthias Lacone who they signed out of junior college

[SPEAKER_01]: a co-cheese college in Arizona where it seems to attract French players, players from France.

[SPEAKER_01]: And Matthias was hurt for a couple years, his first few years.

[SPEAKER_01]: He finally got into official games last year in rookie ball and then went to low-A, very good numbers, his velocity was up, but there's still still development ahead, as you can imagine for somebody who spent his foreman of years in France, where they don't play a lot of baseball.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: There was some interesting projects for them.

[SPEAKER_01]: They also last year had a lot of injuries, a lot of Tommy Johns that still are on their top 30.

[SPEAKER_01]: Bush, Emason Adams, Drew Thorpe, as you were trying to think of the name.

[SPEAKER_00]: Don't forget about Drew Thorpe, was a good acquisition for them a couple of years ago, but unfortunately for the white socks, we haven't really seen him as a white socks really much.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I actually was at the game when he walked off the mountain with the trainer was on the back field of the Dodgers side of Camelback Ranch and I thought, ooh, that doesn't look good.

[SPEAKER_01]: And next thing, you know, he's out, a pre-lander bro, it was another one that went out early in spring training last year with an injury with Tommy John.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's funny, we say this, you run through a number of these games and I'm like former

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, former Yankee, foreign giant for like you can go like there's a lot of like again this is an organization that has been in the talent you know we haven't mentioned break the Montgomery much but and you know like this is an organization that has been we say in a talent acquisition mode in all kind of different ways you know like whether it's by draft whether it's by trade whether it's by the rule five there's a lot of different ways and if you're liking hearing about some of these

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, less names that are a little bit further down the rankings, we're done on the video side, but on the podcast side, podcast feed, we're going to keep going right after this quick break.

[SPEAKER_00]: So Bill, looking outside the top 10, like you said, this is a system that the top head is much stronger than the back of it, but that doesn't mean that there aren't names to know here, who are some of the other names that kind of stand out to you outside the top end.

[SPEAKER_01]: One picture who I don't know a whole lot about, I think Jeff Pontis is the expert on the staff and I don't know if I'm pronouncing his first name, Jetics and PIEs.

[SPEAKER_01]: He was a little five-pick from Boston.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've heard some really good things about him.

[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you know more about him than I do JJ, but I'm looking forward to trying to see him during spring training.

[SPEAKER_00]: Another picture is going to be interesting again.

[SPEAKER_00]: Real five, so we'll see if he can

[SPEAKER_00]: to let a guy develop, then say multiple other teams.

[SPEAKER_01]: One that we a lot of people have forgotten about is Blake Larson, who was the second round pick a couple of years ago out of IMG, Academy, he's a Midwestern kid with to like to get players that played on their area code team.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I saw his last game in instructional league in his draft year, and I was just blown away.

[SPEAKER_01]: He fits that mold of a low slot lefty.

[SPEAKER_01]: But he came back for a strength camp in last January, and suddenly needed Tommy John surgery.

[SPEAKER_01]: So he should be back sometime this year, going deep into their system.

[SPEAKER_01]: Last year, they grabbed the high school planning Matthew Boutham.

[SPEAKER_01]: from Texas.

[SPEAKER_01]: Very athletic kid.

[SPEAKER_01]: Will the hit tool develop?

[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know, but I've heard some good positive things about him as far as, you know, his athleticism can play a mostly played second base and instructionally last year or bridge league.

[SPEAKER_01]: but I know as an amateur in showcases and tournaments, I saw them at shortstop, but I've heard that he can also play out field.

[SPEAKER_01]: So he's one to keep an eye on, again, the hit tool will need to develop.

[SPEAKER_00]: I gotta throw out one other one, which is don't forget, and also don't expect him to, like George Walcott is a guy who,

[SPEAKER_00]: it could never come together.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just be start with that, which is we are talking about this really massive, but athletic power editor who could just strike out too much to ever put it all together.

[SPEAKER_00]: very well.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I get a lot of mixed opinions on him and what he could resolve in.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've heard like a poor man's Joey Gallo with like three or four good years in the major leagues hitting 20 30 home runs.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, we'll see.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's got the work ethic.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's got the attitude.

[SPEAKER_01]: It just, you know, and maybe this is here.

[SPEAKER_01]: He puts it together.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm glad you brought him up because now again he may never but at the same time also I would say I guy that big it's something where you just have to be patient and if it does it'll be like it looks terrible it looks terrible oh something clicked I always overuse the example but

[SPEAKER_00]: Aaron Judge never slug 500 in the minors, and now you can't even imagine him slugging under 600 in the majors.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's when you're that big, sometimes it takes a little bit longer.

[SPEAKER_00]: Aaron Judge reached the Big League's graduate from rookie status as a 25-year-old.

[SPEAKER_00]: George Wallcastle has many years before he's 25.

[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like

[SPEAKER_00]: We're kind of booking this on the front end.

[SPEAKER_00]: We talk about be patient with no assaults.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's six foot 10 and near the back end of this, we're talking about George Wolkown saying also be patient with him because he's really big and he's a position player.

[SPEAKER_00]: Looking also here, they do have a number of kind of like either one time prominent guys or acquisitions at the back of the list.

[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like what Jacob is always who's still on this list, but like that's the first round pick, but I feel like you're talking about utility in field or is your hope at this point at the best and not you are sure stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: You've got the little guy, Mogi on.

[SPEAKER_01]: how to hear a movie on.

[SPEAKER_01]: He had an injury last year.

[SPEAKER_01]: He went from it rookie ball.

[SPEAKER_01]: He was striking out 40 percent of the time, which you can't do in rookie ball.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I took him off the list.

[SPEAKER_01]: He went to high a low way last year and cut that almost in half.

[SPEAKER_01]: Probably a utility guy long term, but you know, he plays hard.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's five seven.

[SPEAKER_01]: have runs well.

[SPEAKER_01]: I really want to see what he does this year if he's healthy and can get in a full season playing shortstop, playing second base, you could even put him in the outfield, too.

[SPEAKER_00]: But well, those are some names to know and we thank you for joining us on the base Polymerical White Sox.

[SPEAKER_00]: prospect podcast deep dive.

[SPEAKER_00]: Bill Mitchell, it's been great to see you.

[SPEAKER_00]: I hate that I'm going to Florida this year, not going to get to do the, you know, I never, I enjoy a few things more than in spring training in Arizona, going at eating tacos with Bill and we do eat tacos at a wide array of places and Bill is never spread.

[SPEAKER_00]: Never steered me wrong on that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I've ever had a bad taco with Bill in Phoenix.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure they exist somewhere, but you just do.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: But and I even had some new places for you this year.

[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't have to make sure to get back next year.

[SPEAKER_00]: I will make it back next year.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I haven't been to Florida in a while.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I got to do the Florida swing this year.

[SPEAKER_00]: But we hope you enjoyed this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm JJ.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a long everybody.