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AJAY TEGALA: I was just having
my morning coffee in the kitchen

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and I heard this distant kind of
goose-like honking outside so I

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ran outside. Ah yes and there
they are. My first whooper swans

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of the autumn. Ah they're quite
a long way away but ah that

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distinctive sound I haven't
heard it for six months but

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there they are fresh from
Iceland. Ah it's so good to see

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them. Welcome back swans.

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ROSIE HOLDSWORTH: Did you know
that the UK is home to three

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different species of swan and
that one crosses a Siberian

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Tundra to get here? Well today,
swan fan and wetland ranger Ajay

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Tegala is taking us to the Ouse
Washes at Welney in Norfolk, to

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see if we can find this
increasingly rare and

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hardworking swan amongst
thousands of its hooping

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cousins.

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Welcome to Wild Tales, finding
the Tundra swans.

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AJAY TEGALA: Every autumn, over
my house, I hear resonant calls

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that sound a bit like a brass
band tuning up.

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The arrival of hundreds of wild
whooper swans is an anticipated

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and celebrated moment in my
calendar. But there is one swan

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species I very rarely see. A
swan that has eluded me for the

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last few winters. I'm determined
that this year I'll see them

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again. The Bewick's swan.

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Back in January 2021, I spotted
a flock of swans in the field

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next to my house. Looking
through a telescope from the

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kitchen window, there were two
Bewick's swans.

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Sometimes known as the Tundra
swan for its epic migration, or

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the small swan, the once
populous bird is becoming

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increasingly rare. I wanted to
speak to someone who knew

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Bewick's swans in extraordinary
detail. Someone who might

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understand why I was so
desperate to see them again.

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DAFILA SCOTT: I remember drawing
the birds outside my father's

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studio window when I was quite
small and that eventually led to

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painting.

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AJAY TEGALA: This is Dafila
Scott, an artist and zoologist.

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She spent her childhood at
Slimbridge, a wetland wildlife

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reserve, as her father, Sir
Peter Scott, was the founder of

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the Wildfowl And Wetlands Trust.
So, from a young age, birds were

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a big part of her life.

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We sit in the cafe on the edge
of Wicken Fen, with the wetlands

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out the window and the bustle of
warm life surrounding us.

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DAFILA SCOTT: February 1964, my
father decided to bring the tame

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whistling swans from the
collection to the pond in front

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of his house. And almost
immediately, the wild Bewick's

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swans, which had been coming to
the Severn Estuary for some

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time, came down onto the pond in
front of his house. And this was

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very exciting.

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And he noticed that the one that
came the first day was different

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from the one that came the
second day. And that the pattern

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of the black and yellow on the
bills was different. And so he

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drew them. He then started to
record all the individuals that

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came that winter.

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So there were 24 that first
winter, and he gave them names

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because that was easier to
remember than numbers. And then

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the next year, when they came
back again, some of them brought

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their signets with them. I think
it was that year that I was ill

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and from school and I had to
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And so what was to do but look
out the window at these

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wonderful swans? And I got
completely hooked identifying

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them and drawing the patterns
and recognizing them. Watching

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their behaviour, seeing, you
know, who had cygnets, who

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didn't, who was mated with who,
and who was dominant on the

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pond. Anyway, it was completely
riveting.

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AJAY TEGALA: For Dafila, drawing
the swans was a necessity as

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well as a love.

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DAFILA SCOTT: Because in those
days, there weren't cameras that

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would focus in on individuals,
you know, halfway across the

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pond. So you had to look through
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and then draw the pattern. And
my father had devised...

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a sort of cycler-styled face. So
you drew the two sides and the

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front view as meticulously as
you could. And he was very

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precise about it. You had to get
it right. But it was very good

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practice for looking and then
drawing. So now I'm a painter.

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But I also like watching the
behaviour of animals still very

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much. And Bewick's swans are, of
course, my favourite animal.

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AJAY TEGALA: And so the ones
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was obviously this precise
pattern of black and yellow that

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you were drawing. And that's how
you got to know them by their

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DAFILA SCOTT: Yes, that's right.
And also just the way the animal

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carries its head. So some of
them, we used to have one called

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Pussycat, which had her head in
the air all the time. She was

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always looking around with her
head in the air. So they have

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their individual characteristics
and you get to know them. And

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that's, it's very good fun.

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I mean if you're, you know, if
you're really watching a flock

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and you get to know them all
it's it's just wonderful

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following them. It's very
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AJAY TEGALA: I guess it's quite
similar to, I'm lucky i work

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with the grazing livestock here
at Wicken and it's that sense of

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when you have that time to spend
with these individuals you get

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to know their personalities and
they are all unique. It's a

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lovely it's a lovely way to
spend time isn't it watching

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animal behaviour.

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DAFILA SCOTT: It's so lovely I
mean I get fond of the wild

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ducks that come to the bottom of
my garden and I'll feed them a

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little bit but i couldn't tell
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coming. Whereas, you know, with
the Bewick's, you can look at

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them and you can so quickly
recognise individuals. It

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really, it's very special.

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AJAY TEGALA: After talking to
Dafila, I'm even more determined

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to see them again. At Wicken
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most days throughout the winter,
but never Bewick's. And I don't

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think I'll get quite so lucky
with my kitchen window, so I

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head to WWT Welney. Where the
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retreat for thousands of swans.

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LIZZIE BRUCE: I think early
morning in the winter is really

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special. Particularly when you
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morning and the skies are clear
and you have the sun rising and

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the swans are waking up in the
morning so they start getting

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really talkative to one another,
flapping their wings. And you

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kind of sense their excitement
that the day is starting and

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then they'll lift off the washes
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In like big flocks of like bees
calling and then go out to the

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fields and feed during the day
and if you're lucky you'll pick

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out the Bewick's swans.

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AJAY TEGALA: This is Lizzie
Bruce the site manager of

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Welney. We meet in the heated
bird hide with panoramic windows

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that give views across the
wetland. It's the perfect place

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for spotting winter visitors.

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Of course the stars this time of
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involves a lot of monitoring of
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LIZZIE BRUCE: Yes, so Welney and
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internationally important for
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whooper swans. So here at WWT
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populations along with our
partners for decades.

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So the washes are really
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place for the swans at night.
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go off to feed. So we will get
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all the swans coming off the
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field. And then during the day,
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fens across the farmland and in
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birds again.

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So we'll count the total flock
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and how many Bewick's swans are
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understand what is the
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identify where there are
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locations that we can then
protect to ensure they can

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winter here undisturbed.

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AJAY TEGALA: I always used to
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counting birds, like how hard
can that be? But actually it can

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be quite challenging.

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LIZZIE BRUCE: Yeah, on this
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challenging and last week we
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the arable fields and it was one
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it's really gusty.

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So we're setting up a tripod to
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be several hundred metres away
and the scope is rocking from

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side to side. So you're seeing
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scope and then you've got the
wind blowing and your eyes are

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watering. It can be yeah on
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yeah it's still good.

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AJAY TEGALA: The swans we're
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sort you'll see in your local
park. The whoopers and the

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Bewick's are distinct species
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each other by their size and
behaviour. At first glance, they

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may look very similar, but
Lizzie has a good way to tell

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them apart. For the whooper
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further along their bill.

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LIZZIE BRUCE: It's almost like a
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the easiest way we describe it.
And then the Bewick's swans,

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their bill is predominantly
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spot of yellow and it's more
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AJAY TEGALA: Brilliant. I love
that analogy.

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Both whooper and Bewick's swans
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But their journeys are very
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LIZZIE BRUCE: The whooper Swans
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from Iceland, so we get the
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wintering in Britain and
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they've come from Russia, so the
Tundra up in Russia, and they

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have a 3,500-kilometre
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AJAY TEGALA: And, of course,
they come here for a couple of

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reasons, the climate, the
availability of food, like the

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sugar beet tops, and this
important wetland that you

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manage, because I live nearby. I
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the autumn and you think they've
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and they're coming here to my
home patch. It's really

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exciting.

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LIZZIE BRUCE: It's so magical. I
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whooper swans, we all get really
excited. It's really

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heartwarming as well to see some
of those birds come back and

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know that they've had a
successful migration back home

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to breed. And then they come
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got cygnets with them. Yeah, it
just makes you all feel warm and

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fuzzy inside. It's lovely.

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AJAY TEGALA: So you get quite an
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the monitoring work as well. And
I know that you've just been

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number crunching over the last
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Can you tell us a bit more about
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LIZZIE BRUCE: Yes, so it's a
team effort. So while WWT lead

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on it locally here, we work with
RSPB and National Trust and all

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our wetlands. So our numbers
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week, we counted about 8,600
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Washes at night. And they were
joined by about 50 Bewick's

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And then when we went out,
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Ouse Washes and the eemwashes we
then counted a total of 13,000

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whooper swans and they had about
a thousand juveniles in those

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flocks. And then Bewick's swans
we found 68 Bewick's swans and

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14 juveniles. So while whooper
swans are going up we are sadly

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seeing the Bewick's swan
population decline. So these

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counts we did last week are the
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on records and a research was
just published in the last week

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that suggested that the Bewick's
swan population has actually,

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European population, has
actually declined by 56% since

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1995, which partly reflects why
we're seeing such low numbers

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But what we're also seeing
Bewick's swans do is something

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called short stopping. So this
is when the Bewick's swans are

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not migrating as far as they
used to. So historically, they

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would have moved as the cold
weather sort of pushed them

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westwards but now we've got
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swans are favouring Germany so
they are seeing more and less

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AJAY TEGALA: Behind us in the
hide, a huge map with yellow

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lines draws out a migration that
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LIZZIE BRUCE: So you can see on
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they'll head west mainly by
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2,000 miles before they get to
us here at Welney and they can

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stop off at places like
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Belgium. And it's not a quick
migration you know it can take

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about six weeks from their
breeding grounds to reach their

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final wintering grounds here at
Welney or increasingly in

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Germany.

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It's really fascinating to see
where they've come from but also

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some of challenges that they
face during their migration. So

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up in Russia, they're
particularly faced by climate

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change and the warming of the
Tundra, making it wetter and

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less favourable for them.

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As you go further west, there's
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availability. They also do face
illegal hunting along their

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journey. So because they're the
size of a goose, they can be

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mistaken for a goose, so they
can be illegally shot. And then

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as they come more towards Europe
and us, they then can encounter

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power lines. So yeah, there's
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AJAY TEGALA: Of course, you've
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period of time, but you've seen
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weather and temperature, haven't
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LIZZIE BRUCE: Yeah, so, you
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kind of in this climate crisis.
The climate is changing. And so,

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yeah, I've been at Wellney for
about two years now. It started

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off with our wettest year, with
prolonged winter flooding, well

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into the sort of breeding season
and then starting again really

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early in September.

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And, you know, it's important to
say that Ouse Washes is flood

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storage. So it is doing what
it's meant to do. It is

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protecting farmland and homes
from flooding. However, what we

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are seeing is that it's becoming
more extreme, more prolonged,

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which has a negative impact on
the wildlife.

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And then this year we've had now
had our driest year and looking

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at the long-range forecast it
looks like we're going to go

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into next year on some of our
sites with really low water

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levels which again has an impact
on our wildlife. So yeah we are

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working with farmers with
landowners of how can we create

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more wetlands and manage the
water more sustainably have a

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more coordinated joined up
approach so that it benefits

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everybody and everything.

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AJAY TEGALA: Yeah, that's
something we're involved in at

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Wicken Fen as well. And the
importance of kind of holding

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back that water to see us
through the summer. And so

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creating reservoirs is something
we're doing in partnership with

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some of the farmers as well.

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LIZZIE BRUCE: Around here, the
farmers really welcome the

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swans. Some of the farmers say
that if they're nibbling away on

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the winter wheat, it actually
makes it better the following

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year. It kind of adds a bit more
rigorous growth to the wheat.

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So as long as the swans aren't
trampling them when it's really

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wet, yeah, the farmers are quite
happy for swans out on their

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winter wheat.

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Locally what's really great is
that we work really closely with

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National Grid and UK Power and
trying to fit deflectors to the

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power lines. And this has been
really successful, so they've

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kind of evolved over time but
they're basically just a small

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plastic disc with reflectors on
both sides that will just clip

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onto the cables and this
immediately makes such a big

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difference to the swans they can
immediately see them.

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And once they're on those power
lines, the swans instantly kind

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of, we stop seeing those
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AJAY TEGALA: I think that just
highlights that to look after

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species that migrate, it is
about teamwork. It is about

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working together and, yeah,
different industries getting

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involved to make a real
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LIZZIE BRUCE: A lot of birds are
losing their wetlands. If we can

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create more wetlands, more safe
areas for them to roost and

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feed. And then, yes, some of the
other challenges such as power

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lines. And, yeah, we can reverse
some of the negativity. And as

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you can see with whooper swans,
their population is now

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thriving.

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AJAY TEGALA: The threats to the
washes feel far away as we sit

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drenched in sunlight looking at
the expanse of blue, trimmed

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with green edges. There are
hundreds of chestnut-headed

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pochard, a dozen pintails, ducks
with needle-like tails, a

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tumbling flock of lapwings and
of course a familiar sight.

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LIZZIE BRUCE: So we also have a
few swans out here so we've got

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mute swans and whooper swans.
They're just drifting up and

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down. At this time of day a lot
of the swans have all gone off

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into the fields to feed. But
then we do a commentated swan

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feed in the afternoons during
the winter, at about half three,

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and this is when we start.

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We give the swans and the ducks
a small amount of grain. It's a

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little treat for them, and
you'll start to see more swans

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coming in. It's really magical
just seeing them drift around,

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and they'll come in closer to
the hide, and it's really

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special.

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AJAY TEGALA: With sunset and the
swan feed a few hours off, I'm

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determined to use this time to
search for Bewick's swans. And I

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know that they're out there,
somewhere in the fields that

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stretch out in front of us. But
our chances aren't good, as

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there are only a very small
number dotted across the Fens.

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So we're just about a mile away
from Welney, we've headed south,

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and there's a field with about
200 swans. And I've just scanned

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through with my telescope and
they are all whooper swans.

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They've all got that wedge of
cheese rather than the knob of

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butter. But there's definitely
some juveniles, you can pick out

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the greyer ones.

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I guess it must be winter wheat,
there's just the kind of green

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shoots coming through, you've
got the really black peaty soil

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and then the lush green shoots
coming through and they're just

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kind of, well most of them are
sat, some of them are waddling

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around, but in the winter sun
the green looks so bright and

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then also the whiteness of the
swans glowing in the sun.

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Yeah it is a really distinctive
call. I mean they sound just

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like geese, they're kind of
honking a little bit. So yeah,

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very different to mute swans
which don't say a lot and they

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have that kind of high-pitched
call when you do hear them.

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Here it's this kind of deep
grunty kind of hooping call that

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gives them the name. But yeah,
it is very goose-like. It's

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funny because they look so
elegant and beautiful and yet

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they just sound a little bit
less like they look I suppose.

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But I love that sound, I
absolutely adore it.

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So we've been driving around
quite a few miles on bumpy roads

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and we were sort of beginning to
give up hope and we've just

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stumbled upon another field with
another couple of hundred swans

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in. We're on the kind of a
remote farm track, very

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windswept, on the side of a
minor road and I'm just going to

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scan across and see if we can
pick out, fingers crossed, some

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Bewick's.

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I really, really want to see
them. I really want to see them.

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This happens a few more times.
We spot a flock of white in the

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distance.

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Pick our way down increasingly
narrow roads, then get out the

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scope.

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But each time, all that's in
front of me are wedges of cheese

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and hooping.

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We've just spent a couple of
hours literally driving all over

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the fens, looking for Bewick's
swans. We didn't see any, but

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there's this gorgeous sunset.
Everything's turning orange and

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we're heading back to Welney for
hopefully the highlight of the

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day.

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We return to Welney just in time
for the dusk swan feed. Despite

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hundreds of criss-crossing
pochard ducks, there is just a

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single whooper swan.

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It floats gracefully, bending
its neck to scoop up its nightly

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treat. But afterwards, we take a
stroll to the final hide. A

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great white V shoots over our
head, softly hooping through the

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fading light.

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There's not really much colour,
just kind of greyness, but

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silver to the water, on which
there's lots of silhouetted

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ducks. I can hear lots of
widgeon whistling. Every now and

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then a few whooper swans are
dropping in and we're expecting

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over the next few minutes more
and more to come in to roost

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here on this water for the
night.

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Leaving Welney I was sad not to
see any Bewick's swans but it's

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hardly surprising with so many
challenges facing them.

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I was starting to give up hope
of seeing any Bewick's swans

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this year. But on a frozen
morning, I take one last trip to

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Welney.

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I'm in the Lyle Hide on Welney,
and it's a few weeks after I

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spent a whole day looking for
Bewick's swans. And since then,

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there's been this cold snap.
There's a lot of frozen water on

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the washes here. There's a few
little areas that aren't frozen,

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and that's where the swans are
gravitating to. And as if by

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magic, there's a distant group
of about ten.

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And I've just through a
telescope been watching one and

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literally it's had its head
tucked into its wing for ages,

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tantalising, but it looked a bit
smaller. And eventually it

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showed its head and I could see
that just like it was described

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the bill is mostly black with
like a little knob of butter and

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there it is, a Bewick's swan at
last. After so much searching

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it's so exciting to finally see
a Bewick's swan. Wahey, even

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though it's quite a long way
away through a scope not visible

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with the naked eye at all,
hardly.

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It's just really exciting to
finally, finally see one and

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worth heading out in the cold to
witness.

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There it is, there it is. Yes.
Yes.

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