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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So this week is very special, obviously because we
<v Speaker 2>have a special guest. Well, I guess I have a
<v Speaker 2>special guest because Angie is behind the camera this time,
<v Speaker 2>so say hi to her behind the camera, everyone, and
<v Speaker 2>we have our producer Victoria in front of the camera
<v Speaker 2>with me. And a big part of that is because
<v Speaker 2>if you have been listening for a while, you know
<v Speaker 2>that she loves old timey movies, and so we're like,
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, Portrait Bally on Fire. I bet she
<v Speaker 2>loves it, and she does well, right, Okay. I was like,
<v Speaker 2>we'll see your opinion, but we know you've seen it already,
<v Speaker 2>so that's good.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>So we are talking about the twenty nineteen hauntingly beautiful
<v Speaker 2>French film Portrait of a Lady on Fire. So this
<v Speaker 2>movie is very well loved in and out of the
<v Speaker 2>wow community.
<v Speaker 3>What drew you to this movie? Victoria?
<v Speaker 1>It was like old?
<v Speaker 3>Was there any reason besides it's old?
<v Speaker 1>Well, I saw it like a while ago. Yeah, for
<v Speaker 1>the first time, and I don't generally read like the
<v Speaker 1>synopsis or anything. Oh ohl, a period film. Lovely looks
<v Speaker 1>like there's two chicks it even better. Yeah, I didn't
<v Speaker 1>realize that it was about an artist and because I'm
<v Speaker 1>also an artist, went to art school and then it
<v Speaker 1>was happened to be really gay and like the seaside,
<v Speaker 1>and I also love like kind of poetic and witty
<v Speaker 1>banter and conversation, which I think it also has. So
<v Speaker 1>it just really delivered without me even knowing or asking
<v Speaker 1>it due.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Also the title is very catching.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Portrait of a Lady on Fire. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>You're like, is she going to be on fire?
<v Speaker 3>I know, yes, Like when is she gonna explode?
<v Speaker 1>You like, is this a metaphor? And they're like, no,
<v Speaker 1>this is literally yeah, there is wire. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think. I didn't watch this movie until
<v Speaker 2>it had been out for like a little while. But
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to watch it, but my wife didn't want
<v Speaker 2>to watch it. Sometimes she's a hater. But I convinced
<v Speaker 2>her and then she's like, oh, I actually liked this.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I knew you would like it, and
<v Speaker 2>you're like, dumb. Yeah, obviously when if I steered you
<v Speaker 2>wrong a lot of times. But I wanted to see
<v Speaker 2>do you have any hot takes or burning desires that
<v Speaker 2>you want to share about this movie?
<v Speaker 3>Victoria.
<v Speaker 1>Not to be a horn dog, but I was disappointed
<v Speaker 1>for it being a French film. They didn't show the sex. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I mean we barely got the kissing.
<v Speaker 2>Well, they did a lot of armpit stuff. I think
<v Speaker 2>that was their sex scene. There were fingers in armpits,
<v Speaker 2>and we were like, oh, okay, could.
<v Speaker 1>I could have just even just like some bodily kissing,
<v Speaker 1>like kissing down her stomach. Yeah, I just think there
<v Speaker 1>could have been a little more. Yeah, I'm like, is
<v Speaker 1>there a director's.
<v Speaker 2>Cut or maybe or they were worried because you know,
<v Speaker 2>blue is the worm as color was also French, and
<v Speaker 2>the director was creepy and pushed them too far. So
<v Speaker 2>maybe this director was like, I don't know, was this
<v Speaker 2>directed by a woman.
<v Speaker 3>It's just I don't know, I know, I don't get up.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I also realized it made it accessible, so
<v Speaker 1>like when I rewatched it this time, Like my mom
<v Speaker 1>also rewatched it because we rented it on Prime. So
<v Speaker 1>if my straight mom could watch it and be like,
<v Speaker 1>this was good, this was beautiful, and like if it
<v Speaker 1>was more sexy times, she might have been less into it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that makes sense.
<v Speaker 1>What about you?
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think I said this before when we mentioned it.
<v Speaker 2>I just like that they had body hair because yeah, I.
<v Speaker 1>Hate watching a period piece and it's like, why does
<v Speaker 1>she have brasilient?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I'm really confused wax girls. Yeah, yeah, it
<v Speaker 2>was like I don't know, I really don't think that
<v Speaker 2>was a thing then. And so like they showed you know,
<v Speaker 2>like I said, they did a lot of armpit stuff,
<v Speaker 2>but there aren't pits or hairy because it was the
<v Speaker 2>seventeen fifties, This makes sense that they would have hair
<v Speaker 2>on their bodies and they aren't removing it.
<v Speaker 1>I appreciated that.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I also said I liked that they did the
<v Speaker 2>abortion storyline. Yes, but I also wondered if it was
<v Speaker 2>kind of traumatizing for them to then have Sophie posts
<v Speaker 2>for a painting after like after she was crying when.
<v Speaker 1>That was controversial. People agree with you? Oh, okay, just like,
<v Speaker 1>so you just had this abortion, lie down, let's rea
<v Speaker 1>create get your paints. Yeah, like what the fuck, Elouise,
<v Speaker 1>but kind of a dope painting. Just got it for
<v Speaker 1>the art, which in their time was like for the GRAM,
<v Speaker 1>you know, to do it for the art for the GRAM.
<v Speaker 3>You're right, I just I'm glad you also were like oh,
<v Speaker 3>because I was just like, is she not traumatized? Yeah?
<v Speaker 3>Because she was crying. I thought it was so sweet.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we'll talk about it.
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about it. I was like, there's lots of
<v Speaker 1>unpack with that.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And I will say I completely forgot that whole
<v Speaker 2>story line.
<v Speaker 3>All I remembered was that there were lesbians.
<v Speaker 1>I just remember body hair. Oh yeah, I don't even
<v Speaker 1>remember the sea.
<v Speaker 3>Then what Yeah, the whole thing with with Sofia.
<v Speaker 1>I remember the art literally the word portrait like remember that.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do remember.
<v Speaker 2>I remembered that there was something with a book, but
<v Speaker 2>I didn't remember all the details. Anyway, point being, there's
<v Speaker 2>a lot of stuff that happens, and it's and it's
<v Speaker 2>interesting and we're going to talk about it, and Victoria
<v Speaker 2>is going to talk about it after the break, So
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have a quick break yet and when we
<v Speaker 2>get back, Victoria will give you the recap. Have someone
<v Speaker 2>help you into your corset while we're gone. It's a struggle.
<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to But I'm a Lesbian. This week we
<v Speaker 2>are discussing portrait of a Lady on Fire.
<v Speaker 1>My brain literally just thought portrait of a lesbian on fire?
<v Speaker 3>Pretty much? I mean she she seems too married. In
<v Speaker 3>the title of the pod for today, yes, just change
<v Speaker 3>it to whatever movie or that's so silly.
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So if you guys haven't watched this yet, well sorry,
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna spoil it. It isn't French, so watch it
<v Speaker 1>when you feel like reading, unless you speak French. Yeah, okay.
<v Speaker 1>So it starts off, I guess in their present day
<v Speaker 1>where mary Anne is teaching a life drawing class to
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of young women and one of the girls
<v Speaker 1>is pulling out paintings from her stacks, which they're not
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be doing, and so she gets kind of upset.
<v Speaker 1>So she's the one like posing for them, sorry whatever.
<v Speaker 1>She gets up and she's like, who whoa what are
<v Speaker 1>you guys doing? That's you're not supposed to be touching
<v Speaker 1>those Because she sees one that she really doesn't want
<v Speaker 1>to see, and it's because it's a portrait from a
<v Speaker 1>long time ago, and she's like, it's called Portrait of
<v Speaker 1>a Lady on Fire. This movie does like to like
<v Speaker 1>reference its name a lot, which I like.
<v Speaker 3>I love that because sometimes you watch a movie and you're.
<v Speaker 1>Like, why was it called?
<v Speaker 3>Why did they call it that? And this time they're like,
<v Speaker 3>this is why. You're like, check you down. Did you
<v Speaker 3>understand the way?
<v Speaker 1>Do you get it? And that's just the setup for
<v Speaker 1>the story. So then we flash back and Marianne's on
<v Speaker 1>like I said, a medium rowboat, so not a small,
<v Speaker 1>not a large, on a rocky ocean and a bunch
<v Speaker 1>of men rowing and she has some canvases in a
<v Speaker 1>wooden box and she loses the box. It gets dumped
<v Speaker 1>into the water and no one is going to help her,
<v Speaker 1>so she jumps in, which is crazy because their clothing
<v Speaker 1>was so heavy dry. Yeah, I'm surprised she didn't drown.
<v Speaker 1>Also crazy that she knows how to.
<v Speaker 3>Swim, yeah for real, because it's.
<v Speaker 1>Seventeen sixty or when. Yeah, this movie so, but she's
<v Speaker 1>not a conventional woman. Yeah, So anyway, she rescues the painting.
<v Speaker 1>This is already showing how far she'll go for her
<v Speaker 1>are you know? So no one helps her and then
<v Speaker 1>she just gets dropped off on land at sunset and
<v Speaker 1>she's like soaking wet with her stuff.
<v Speaker 3>And she's like, but wait, where do I go?
<v Speaker 1>He's like, just go up?
<v Speaker 3>I know. Wow, these guys are so helpful.
<v Speaker 1>She's like, summit the seaside cliff and walk through a
<v Speaker 1>forest and then she gets there and that's where we
<v Speaker 1>meet the maid. We eventually find out her name is Sophie,
<v Speaker 1>who makes her a fire in like a reception kind
<v Speaker 1>of room, which we don't have those in our houses
<v Speaker 1>anymore because we all live in tiny houses. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I was like, that's fancy, but it's just like.
<v Speaker 1>A large kind of like gallery style room. It's just
<v Speaker 1>very long, and that's going to be Sophie's bedroom and
<v Speaker 1>I mean, sorry, not Sophie, Marianne's bedroom and studio, which
<v Speaker 1>I really liked the scene because Sophie starts the fire
<v Speaker 1>and leaves and then Marianne just gets naked right away.
<v Speaker 1>That's how you know it's a French film. Okay, you
<v Speaker 1>did you know? What are we We're like eleven minutes in.
<v Speaker 1>There's nudity. A beautiful like scene where Marianne's backlit by
<v Speaker 1>the fire and you just see like the side profile
<v Speaker 1>of her beautiful little titty, Like, holy fucking shit, she's
<v Speaker 1>just sitting there. She like lights her pipe, but she
<v Speaker 1>smokes tobacco, and then her two canvases are dripping wet.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is am I the only one
<v Speaker 1>of the things. This is suggestive and they're like flanking
<v Speaker 1>the fire and I was like, okay, all right, like
<v Speaker 1>if she's gay to me, this whole scene was just like.
<v Speaker 3>She's gay in case you couldn't take, in.
<v Speaker 1>Case you weren't sure. And I just I just loved
<v Speaker 1>that it showed kind of her badassory from the beginning. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and then she puts on a robe and starts meandering around,
<v Speaker 1>and she goes and helps herself to bread and cheese,
<v Speaker 1>which is really hard to watch because I was like,
<v Speaker 1>O love bread and cheese, like when I'm hungry. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>She's like, sorry, I'm hungry. Do you have any wine?
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh my god, I am her.
<v Speaker 1>I'm really her. And then that's when we find out
<v Speaker 1>that Eloise, who haven't met yet, has been called home
<v Speaker 1>from the convent. Where she's been living because her sister,
<v Speaker 1>who was set to be married, has died. And so
<v Speaker 1>it turns out that Marianne is not the first painter
<v Speaker 1>that her that Heloise's mother has hired to paint a portrait,
<v Speaker 1>and so Marianne has to be sneaky about it. So
<v Speaker 1>she's talking to Eloise's mom. I'm just gonna call her
<v Speaker 1>the mom, Yeah, who had her own portrait painted by
<v Speaker 1>Marianne's father. So that's why Marianne got hired. Because at
<v Speaker 1>first you're like, why they hire a woman because this
<v Speaker 1>is seventeen sixty so women can't do anything. Well that's why. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>this is nepotism. So anyway, and so she the mother
<v Speaker 1>warns her that Eloise wore out the last painter because
<v Speaker 1>she refuses to pose because she does not want to
<v Speaker 1>get married to a stranger, which makes sense. I get
<v Speaker 1>a girl. Yeah, then I'm like, do you get a
<v Speaker 1>painting of him.
<v Speaker 3>Or yeah, it's just not because like a woman is
<v Speaker 3>like a prime.
<v Speaker 1>It's not like Hinge where they both got a painting. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's like you're stuck with you. It would be so funny,
<v Speaker 1>just like.
<v Speaker 3>Shipping it like sailing across.
<v Speaker 1>You see if I like you. So this part is
<v Speaker 1>kind of like creepy though. Her mom's like, you must
<v Speaker 1>paint her without her knowing, and I was like that sucks, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and you must pretend to be her companion, so I
<v Speaker 1>felt like that was setting them up for failure.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's like sad because it's like she's going
<v Speaker 2>to feel betrayed because she thinks she's just her companion.
<v Speaker 1>Which is friend. Yeah, and it's like, no, I'm here
<v Speaker 1>to betray you.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And then fast forward, Marianne's prepping some of her canvases
<v Speaker 1>and that's when the maid Sophie walks in to be like, hey,
<v Speaker 1>Eloise is ready for her walk and Marianne's like, how
<v Speaker 1>did the sister die? Right, because you're like the maids like, well,
<v Speaker 1>we don't know what. We think she jumped off the
<v Speaker 1>cliff at the sea maybe, and she's like, well, why
<v Speaker 1>do you think she jumped and not fell? And the
<v Speaker 1>Maids like because she did not cry out fucking hell dude,
<v Speaker 1>she did. Oh yeah, this movie is fucking dark. Sorry,
<v Speaker 1>this is not necessarily a feel good film. If you
<v Speaker 1>drink drink wine and do it when you're like on
<v Speaker 1>your period or you're sad or something for me or.
<v Speaker 3>Not eat ice cream or something.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have your feel good thing by you whatever
<v Speaker 1>that is. It's an energy drink wine. So then we
<v Speaker 1>see Marianne and Eloise meet for the first time. Sort
<v Speaker 1>of Elouise like won't even look at her and just
<v Speaker 1>walks in front of her and never shows her face,
<v Speaker 1>which is indicative. And then they're like heading towards the ocean,
<v Speaker 1>and Eloise just breaks into a freaking sprint, yeah, straight
<v Speaker 1>towards the cliff, and so Marianne's like, oh no, she's
<v Speaker 1>gonna drop the fire.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So they're just like both running in these super heavy dresses,
<v Speaker 1>and then right at the edge, Eloise stops and she's
<v Speaker 1>just like panting.
<v Speaker 3>So I have a lot.
<v Speaker 1>Of like quotes of conversation because it was just so
<v Speaker 1>good to me.
<v Speaker 3>No, I love it.
<v Speaker 1>She stops suddenly and she says, I've dreamt of that
<v Speaker 1>for years, and Marianne's like dying. Yeah, she's like and
<v Speaker 1>Elouise is like running, which is just like just reminds
<v Speaker 1>you of the times like she hasn't been allowed to run,
<v Speaker 1>probably since she was.
<v Speaker 3>Like eleven, you can't do anything.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, since she became a woman.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And then they're standing and looking at the ocean, and
<v Speaker 1>I think it's funny because Mary I keeps looking at
<v Speaker 1>Eloise a lot, which without the context of her needing
<v Speaker 1>to draw her without her knowing, Yeah, it just seemed
<v Speaker 1>really gay.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, She's like, wow, I'm so interesting, and so of
<v Speaker 2>course Elouise doesn't notice at first, so she's like.
<v Speaker 1>This chick's really into me. She's like, she loves me,
<v Speaker 1>but she's studying her face. But to me, it felt
<v Speaker 1>like the attraction was heavy already.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And then the next day, Marianne starts drawing Eloise from memory,
<v Speaker 1>which as an artist and someone who like literally has
<v Speaker 1>a bachelor's and fine art, it's fucking crazy. Like how
<v Speaker 1>I mean, she probably didn't actually draw, but whoever, whatever
<v Speaker 1>is this idea of being able let me suspend my disbelief.
<v Speaker 1>Being able to draw her that well from memory was
<v Speaker 1>just mind blowing to me. I Yeah, I was like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this movie rocks.
<v Speaker 3>It's because of love. Love gave her, yeah, in the drug.
<v Speaker 1>And then they take another walk down to the sea
<v Speaker 1>cliffs and I thought it was interesting because it was
<v Speaker 1>windy that day, so then they had their faces wrapped,
<v Speaker 1>which for me felt very erotic, but maybe because I'm
<v Speaker 1>into different types of denial, okay, but also interesting because
<v Speaker 1>then she can't see half of her face.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, She's like hell.
<v Speaker 1>And so then they kneel down, they look out into
<v Speaker 1>the sand. Elouise says that she wants to go bathe,
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of the old timey way to be,
<v Speaker 1>like I want to go into the body of water,
<v Speaker 1>and mary Anne's like, okay, but do you know how
<v Speaker 1>to swim? Oh yeah, and Eloise is like, I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>It'll be fine, and then I wrote gay close up
<v Speaker 1>of hands oh yeah, because mary I can't see her face,
<v Speaker 1>so she's studying her hand posture and then she secretly
<v Speaker 1>sketches them when like Eloise like walks off. And then
<v Speaker 1>that evening she hangs out with Sophie. Marianna does and
<v Speaker 1>Sophie's like, how's it going, And Marianne's like it's difficult.
<v Speaker 1>I haven't even seen her smile, and the Maid's like,
<v Speaker 1>well have you tried being funny? I was just like, oh, guy, bitch,
<v Speaker 1>I love Sophie. Yeah, Sophie is so cute. Also, that's
<v Speaker 1>just like whole thing just sounds like fun. There's just
<v Speaker 1>like every day beach drawing, beach drawing, like what if occasion.
<v Speaker 3>I know, And it's like it's always girls'.
<v Speaker 2>Night because there's no guys there and.
<v Speaker 3>The mom is away so that bitch is not there.
<v Speaker 3>So it seems so fun and they're in like a castle,
<v Speaker 3>you know.
<v Speaker 1>Like this beautiful And so the next day of the
<v Speaker 1>beach things get a little serious and Marianne asks Eloise
<v Speaker 1>if she thinks that her sister wanted to and Eloise
<v Speaker 1>said basically kind of yes, and because in her sister's
<v Speaker 1>last letter to her, she apologized for no reason, and
<v Speaker 1>she thinks it's because her sister knew that she was
<v Speaker 1>leaving her her fate to marry this guy from Melon
<v Speaker 1>and that she preferred the convent because she got to
<v Speaker 1>just read and listen to music blah bah blah. And
<v Speaker 1>Marianne's like, oh, yeah, music's cool. I like drawing, okay,
<v Speaker 1>And then Eloise is like, oh, are you going to
<v Speaker 1>get married? And Marianne's like, oh, I don't know, but
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to, just like sick burn. Yeah, well
<v Speaker 1>she is a lady, but she doesn't have to because
<v Speaker 1>she's inheriting her father's business, so she's financially solvent. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and I think her dad's did so she just literally
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a male relative to something. Yeah, I guess
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, And so that kind of pisses off Eloise
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, well, you don't understand me. Yeah, Like
<v Speaker 1>Marian's like, but I do understand you. She's like, I
<v Speaker 1>think we're both gay, so I really understand you. So well,
<v Speaker 1>oh wait, so the mom hasn't left yet, but she
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been around. She's like no, but she is doing,
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, how is it going? And Marianne's like, well, like,
<v Speaker 1>by the time I get home from hanging out with
<v Speaker 1>your beautiful daughter at the beach all day, I don't
<v Speaker 1>have any light to draw or paint by. And she's like, okay,
<v Speaker 1>I'll keep her busy tomorrow so you could actually work.
<v Speaker 1>And it's funny because Marianne like can't get this woman
<v Speaker 1>to pose for her, so she literally puts on the
<v Speaker 1>green dress that's supposed to be Eloise's dress and looks
<v Speaker 1>at herself in a mirror and then makes Sophie wear
<v Speaker 1>the green dress. She can like paint the body of
<v Speaker 1>Eloise and is literally only basing it on Eloise's hands
<v Speaker 1>and neck and face. Yeah, just still just like frick crazy. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>but we do get to see some of the painting,
<v Speaker 1>and again, just like as a painter, I'm just like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>that's a good painting. And then Eloise comes in and
<v Speaker 1>she wants to smoke tobacco with Marianne. He's like, I know,
<v Speaker 1>super scandalous. Yeah, and she's like, oh, my mother said
<v Speaker 1>I can go walking alone tomorrow. Man's like, you'll be free.
<v Speaker 1>Eloise is like being free is being alone?
<v Speaker 3>Like just all these like weird.
<v Speaker 1>Sick burns between the and I thought this part was
<v Speaker 1>important where Elouise is like, well, I'm going to go
<v Speaker 1>to church or I'm gonna go to mass because I
<v Speaker 1>want to hear music and Marianne's like, well, Oregon music's
<v Speaker 1>pretty bleak, Like yeah, to the orchestra sometime. And basically
<v Speaker 1>like Eloise hasn't lived, which is kind of crazy because
<v Speaker 1>she seems to be like a high society woman. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>but she clearly hasn't spent any time in like the
<v Speaker 1>major cities.
<v Speaker 2>No, it's like they live on this like remote island
<v Speaker 2>area and middle area.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I feel like the mom has not taken them anywhere.
<v Speaker 2>It's like you go to the convent and then you
<v Speaker 2>get married.
<v Speaker 1>Really that's it. Like how has she not been to
<v Speaker 1>the orchestra sous? And so Eluise is like, well, tell
<v Speaker 1>me about it, and Marianne's like, you can't explain music.
<v Speaker 1>So there's a harpsichord in the room, so Marianne walks
<v Speaker 1>over to it and she tries to play. Well, she
<v Speaker 1>tells her. She's like, Oh, I'm going to play this piece.
<v Speaker 1>It's about a coming storm and it's like a really
<v Speaker 1>frenzied piece and it's a Vivaldi piece. I think it's
<v Speaker 1>Summer from the Four Seasons, but anyway, and it's a
<v Speaker 1>really romantic moment and like we finally see like Eloise smile,
<v Speaker 1>and then like marian gets kind of like flustered because
<v Speaker 1>you can't remember how it goes. And it's also like
<v Speaker 1>a really hard piece to like what the heck shocked
<v Speaker 1>you could even go that far. I was like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>some gay eye contact for sure, Okay, yeah, And then
<v Speaker 1>Eloise comes back from mass blah blah blah, and Marianne's
<v Speaker 1>hands are like covered in paint, so she's just like
<v Speaker 1>hiding them. She's like, oh, hey girl, and oh this
<v Speaker 1>is hot. And then Eloise was like, in solitude, I
<v Speaker 1>felt the liberty that you spoke of, Marianne, but I
<v Speaker 1>also felt your absence. Okay, we all know what that means.
<v Speaker 1>And she wants her to walk with her tomorrow. I
<v Speaker 1>was like, that was harassing on a date?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and she's like, I've been thinking about you.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was like slow burn, subtle gay.
<v Speaker 3>Vipes, yes, yes.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, that's up date. And then
<v Speaker 1>Marianne tells the mom that the portrait is finished that
<v Speaker 1>evening and we see it and like, yeah, it looks
<v Speaker 1>like Eloise, but it also like doesn't because it's like
<v Speaker 1>feels fake. Yeah, because she didn't. She kind of like
<v Speaker 1>gave her a smile that she never really saw. But
<v Speaker 1>she says, can I show it to Eloise first and
<v Speaker 1>tell her the truth? And the mom's like yeah, okay.
<v Speaker 1>And then also interesting, then after the mom leaves, Marianne
<v Speaker 1>goes and takes the first portrait that the artist, the
<v Speaker 1>first artist had made, and she just fucking sets that
<v Speaker 1>shit on fire, like, oh, look, there are so many
<v Speaker 1>portraits on fire on fire. It's like, okay, you're a
<v Speaker 1>little pyr up and then so she admits the next
<v Speaker 1>day to Eloise at the beach, all they're big hard
<v Speaker 1>the herd to happen at the beach. Yeah, that she's
<v Speaker 1>a painter, and that she came here to paint Eloise.
<v Speaker 1>And obviously Eloise feels portrayed because she's just like you're
<v Speaker 1>part of the problem, Like you're trying to help give
<v Speaker 1>me away to this dude, so sad and she's like,
<v Speaker 1>but are you leaving today? And Man's like, well, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>because it's done. And then Eloise gets like down into
<v Speaker 1>her little adbd's and goes into the ocean, which I
<v Speaker 1>think is a funny thing to do when you're really angry.
<v Speaker 1>You're like, I'm just gonna comes back. She's all like cold,
<v Speaker 1>she's cute, and then they go back to the house.
<v Speaker 1>She shows her to the portrait and she's like is
<v Speaker 1>that me? Is that how you actually see me? She's
<v Speaker 1>like the fucks Nick Burn, She's like, there's no life,
<v Speaker 1>there's no presence. I really love this part. Marianne says,
<v Speaker 1>your presence is made up of fleeting moments that may
<v Speaker 1>lack truth, and Eloise is like, not everything is fleeting.
<v Speaker 1>Some feelings are deep. We know what I know. I
<v Speaker 1>was like, subtext. The fact that it isn't close to me,
<v Speaker 1>I can understand, but I find it sad that it
<v Speaker 1>isn't even close to you. Like, so Elouise just read
<v Speaker 1>that painting shreds Yeah, just like suck. And then Marianne's like, well,
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know you were an art critic.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>This is their first fight, Like holy crap. And then
<v Speaker 1>Alois is.
<v Speaker 3>Like, well I didn't know you were a painter. Yeah, true.
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh
<v Speaker 3>my god.
<v Speaker 1>And then Marianne gets really pissed and like dips her
<v Speaker 1>rag in like mineral oil and just like blurs out
<v Speaker 1>her face. And then the mom comes in is like.
<v Speaker 3>What the heck? She's like what.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, sorry, guys, we still have an hour
<v Speaker 1>movie left. We knew this was yeah, and she was
<v Speaker 1>like it wasn't good enough. I'll start again, and her
<v Speaker 1>mom's like, no, you're fired, and then Eloise is like no, mom.
<v Speaker 1>Marianne stays, I'm gonna sit for this portrait and I
<v Speaker 1>was like, so, then we see their first session of
<v Speaker 1>posing and Eloise comes in wearing the now like famous
<v Speaker 1>green dress, and I loved watching Marianne pose her. It
<v Speaker 1>was it felt like a domsup.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>She was like, sit, put your arm here, chin up,
<v Speaker 1>look at me. I was just like, oh, okay.
<v Speaker 2>Was giving that scene in Wayward where the wife makes
<v Speaker 2>may Martin crawl across.
<v Speaker 3>The floor to her.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, rewatch that scene.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was a good one.
<v Speaker 1>It's been a couple of months and yes. And then
<v Speaker 1>it was funny because like, okay, so they're doing that,
<v Speaker 1>They're like make hard eye contact, and then all of
<v Speaker 1>a sudden it's just a scene cut. This was hilarious
<v Speaker 1>to me. Scene cut jump. Marianne's in bed naked, we
<v Speaker 1>see a full bush. Yeah, and I was like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I'm watching a French film.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, what's going on.
<v Speaker 3>She's like.
<v Speaker 1>Moaning and I was like she's masturbating. I was like,
<v Speaker 1>oh no, she has her period.
<v Speaker 3>I thought that too.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, she's like damn. But instead it's
<v Speaker 2>sadness because blood, it's just very.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, but we got seaful bush and
<v Speaker 1>then thanks for that. I was like a little teaser.
<v Speaker 1>And then Sophie makes her hot compress and that's when
<v Speaker 1>we find out that Sophie has missed three periods and
<v Speaker 1>she don't want a baby.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I like how there was just like really that was
<v Speaker 1>just like it just like, oh, how many of you
<v Speaker 1>missed three Okay? Do you want a baby? No? Okay.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, we're not going to talk about like
<v Speaker 1>why okay, And then we get to see all these
<v Speaker 1>really weird antiquated ideas on how to have It was crazy,
<v Speaker 1>like she's like running to exhaustion.
<v Speaker 3>But like pushing her so she'd run to one of them.
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, is there any scientist? But I
<v Speaker 1>was like the science even invented.
<v Speaker 3>It was Old Wives tales.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure, they gather herbs, they hang her from a
<v Speaker 1>rafter like they're doing all sorts of home remedies.
<v Speaker 3>Like come on, we got to get it out.
<v Speaker 1>And then Eloise asked Marianne if she's ever like basically
<v Speaker 1>had an abortion, yeah, and she's like yeah yeah. I
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh ship. And then she asked her if
<v Speaker 1>she's ever own love. She says yes, yeah, and then
<v Speaker 1>they put Sophie to bed and Aloise falls asleep next her,
<v Speaker 1>and then Marianne draws Aloise while she's asleep, which is
<v Speaker 1>really sweet.
<v Speaker 3>She loves her.
<v Speaker 1>She does. I was like, that is like drawing someone
<v Speaker 1>while they're sleeping. I mean, you're in love girl, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>she says like hard eyes, you done, yes, And then
<v Speaker 1>the next day they're doing more of their portraits, so
<v Speaker 1>now the mom's gone, right because the mom left them
<v Speaker 1>in the second portraits being okay, which is why they
<v Speaker 1>can do all this crazy shit with Sophie, yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Without the mom. What are you doing?
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing? But she's having a hard time
<v Speaker 1>capturing Eloise's smile and she's like, I feel like when
<v Speaker 1>I do it, I do it and then it vanishes.
<v Speaker 1>And Alois is like, well anger always comes to the
<v Speaker 1>four like definitely with you, and I was like, oh
<v Speaker 1>my god, you guys are a couple already, like totally
<v Speaker 1>a couple. And then they both like read each other,
<v Speaker 1>which I thought was funny. Like she's like, well, I
<v Speaker 1>know you because you know you touch your lip when
<v Speaker 1>you're anxious and then you do this when you're sad,
<v Speaker 1>and like she's like, well, I've been watching you too,
<v Speaker 1>and it is so cute. I was like, okay, guys,
<v Speaker 1>we get it.
<v Speaker 3>Just have sex. Sorry, I know.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, what are you gonna have zac? It's like
<v Speaker 1>super intimate, and then they stand up and they're very
<v Speaker 1>close together and their eyes are locked and their mouths
<v Speaker 1>are open and they're breathing really heavy, and then Marianne
<v Speaker 1>just retreats goes back to painting.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, girl, they're just trying to keep building
<v Speaker 2>the they.
<v Speaker 1>Really were, which I get it. It's fun, but I'm
<v Speaker 1>also like, time is of the essence.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's not that much time before she's supposed to
<v Speaker 2>like marry someone.
<v Speaker 1>And Marianna is leaving the yeah over so it's like
<v Speaker 1>that part you should start hooking up now, all right?
<v Speaker 1>And then at the but Eloise is warming her up
<v Speaker 1>because then at the next painting us and she's like, so, Marianne,
<v Speaker 1>do you paint nudes? And Marianne's like, yeah, but only women.
<v Speaker 1>She's like, well why not men? And she's like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>because they don't let.
<v Speaker 3>Me I'm allowed.
<v Speaker 1>And then she's like, but I do it anyway. I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>oh in secret, She's like, I'm not a girl. And
<v Speaker 1>Alois is like, what do you tell these male models?
<v Speaker 1>And Marianne just like starts complimenting Eloise and saying all
<v Speaker 1>these like really beautiful things, and then she's just like JK,
<v Speaker 1>this is what I tell the male model. It just
<v Speaker 1>like makes her laugh. And then I thought this was
<v Speaker 1>like kind of a weird foreshadowing moment. After that, when
<v Speaker 1>they're hanging out with Sophie in the evening, they they're
<v Speaker 1>reading the myth of Orpheus and Euryticy. Do you know
<v Speaker 1>that story?
<v Speaker 2>Sort of and then they I think they reference it
<v Speaker 2>again later.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they do, but they read like the ending. So
<v Speaker 1>it's like Orpheus follows your Ridicy into Hell to like
<v Speaker 1>basically bring her back from death. And it's a long story.
<v Speaker 1>Of course, you know, it's a myth, so he's got
<v Speaker 1>to do all these like trials and tribulations, and then
<v Speaker 1>at the very end, they're like, okay, you can have her,
<v Speaker 1>but you have to leave Hell with her behind you,
<v Speaker 1>and you can't look back until you're cleared of hell basically,
<v Speaker 1>and what does he do. He looks back and that
<v Speaker 1>makes her die again. Such a stupid idiot. Also, I
<v Speaker 1>remember hearing that there wasn't a there.
<v Speaker 2>I feel like most people had like a Greek mythology
<v Speaker 2>era in their life.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I did as like a child like around when Hercules
<v Speaker 2>came out.
<v Speaker 3>Who I was. Yes, I loved the beautiful goddesses or whatever.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, everything about it.
<v Speaker 3>It was so good.
<v Speaker 2>I had the McDonald's plates, you know. But I remember
<v Speaker 2>being really into like reading the stories. I would check.
<v Speaker 2>I would check out Greek mythology books at the library
<v Speaker 2>at school. So I do remember that story now because
<v Speaker 2>I remember reading it.
<v Speaker 3>And being like, damn might do that.
<v Speaker 1>I took my parents to see an opera called euro
<v Speaker 1>to see, so it was from her perspective. Yeah, and
<v Speaker 1>all three of us fell asleep. Oh no, I thought
<v Speaker 1>it was a beautiful fun thing to do with my parents,
<v Speaker 1>a little family date. No, we all fell sep like
<v Speaker 1>good nap, a great nap while we were in the nosebleeds.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, But I thought it.
<v Speaker 1>Was interesting because that story is about like the power
<v Speaker 1>of love because it makes him go to the depths
<v Speaker 1>of hell, but then the inevitability of depth because she
<v Speaker 1>dies again, and then also like the destructive nature of
<v Speaker 1>doubt because he can't help himself but turn around. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>so I didn't know that had any like kind of
<v Speaker 1>foreshadowing about the nature of their relationship with like the
<v Speaker 1>power of love, but then there's doubt between them and
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily death, but they know that they can't end
<v Speaker 1>up together.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like it will death of being forge. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And then it gets weird, so like the three of
<v Speaker 1>them go out into the night, and I'm just like,
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, three women going out into the night
<v Speaker 1>in seventeen sixty witches literally, And then I was like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>shitterally go on to like a kickback.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what it looks like.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's like a bonfire, And then quickly realized
<v Speaker 1>it was only women, so then it goes like witches. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and Sophie finds out that she's still pregnant obviously, damn.
<v Speaker 1>They're running and hanging it, and so the medicine woman says,
<v Speaker 1>come back in two days. But this is when they're
<v Speaker 1>hanging out the bonfire and people are like drinking and
<v Speaker 1>probably doing drugs or something. Yeah, people are runing a
<v Speaker 1>good time, and this is like I think, well, obviously
<v Speaker 1>this is like the standout scene of the movie. All
<v Speaker 1>these women start like singing and clapping in like a
<v Speaker 1>syncopated crescendo, and it's super eerie, yeah, but like beautiful.
<v Speaker 1>And they're just like this is wild, looking at each
<v Speaker 1>other and like Eloise and Marianna are making this really
<v Speaker 1>romantic eye contact and this like other worldly experience. Can
<v Speaker 1>you imagine reading Orpheus and and you were to see
<v Speaker 1>and then you go to this bonfire and this happens,
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, what is life?
<v Speaker 3>Right? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>Like I would be tripping out even if I was sober.
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say.
<v Speaker 1>Also, I feel like they were and doing like high
<v Speaker 1>off of love, like being like falling in love. That's
<v Speaker 1>such a crazy feeling. Yeah, I wouldn't know, but like,
<v Speaker 1>and then they're making all this delicious eye contact and
<v Speaker 1>then Eloise kind of like comes around because she wants
<v Speaker 1>to come closer to Mary, and.
<v Speaker 3>That bitch is on fire.
<v Speaker 1>She is one hundred percent on fire. Like and I
<v Speaker 1>love this part because she does not break eye contact. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's just she's one hundred percent from Marianne even though
<v Speaker 1>she's literally on fire. Maybe that's a metaphor, yes, And
<v Speaker 1>then like she gets like tackled by someone who's like smile,
<v Speaker 1>She's like.
<v Speaker 3>You're danger girl. Like I was like, what is happening?
<v Speaker 1>This is so crazy, But it was just like such
<v Speaker 1>a stunning image, Like I I would want to pause
<v Speaker 1>that and paint that, like that was so cool. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and ty whist Okay. So then the next day, sorry,
<v Speaker 1>it's just always the next day do they go to
<v Speaker 1>the beach. They go to the beach a lot, but
<v Speaker 1>they live on a beautiful island. Yeah, but this time,
<v Speaker 1>like you know, they're pinky st touch gay, so gay,
<v Speaker 1>it's the gayest form of hand holding. Yeah, And the
<v Speaker 1>tension is building. And then Eloise goes and like hides
<v Speaker 1>in like a cave. So Maryanne followers are and they're
<v Speaker 1>in this mouth of the cave and they have their
<v Speaker 1>first kiss finally, and it did not last long enough.
<v Speaker 1>That's another bone I'm gonna pick ye like, and and
<v Speaker 1>then Eloise just like runs away. Yeah, but you kind
<v Speaker 1>of initiated it. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>And then she's like, I don't know what I'm actually scared.
<v Speaker 1>Girl, have gay sex. You're about to get married. Just
<v Speaker 1>do it. Get it out of the way before you
<v Speaker 1>have to be married to this man forever. Not name
<v Speaker 1>any names, but I do know people that didn't have
<v Speaker 1>gay sex before they got married, and they do regret it.
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, see, you gotta do what you kind of
<v Speaker 1>any people don't be that person. You're gonna get married
<v Speaker 1>and you're marrying someone that isn't whatever.
<v Speaker 3>Just have gay sex and just do it.
<v Speaker 1>Just do it, like you just do it. Yeah. And
<v Speaker 1>then back at the house, Eloise is like hiding and
<v Speaker 1>like not coming down for dinner and Marianne's like okay,
<v Speaker 1>And Marianne starts having these visions where she sees Eloise
<v Speaker 1>in the darkness of hallways. Yeah, and she looks like
<v Speaker 1>she looks like she's dead but like yeah, but she's
<v Speaker 1>like in a white gown and like either looks like
<v Speaker 1>an angel or like yeah or least something. It's like glowing.
<v Speaker 1>And then she just like recedes and goes away and
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, holy crap. And she's like luminescent. And then
<v Speaker 1>Marianne goes into her room and Eloise is actually just
<v Speaker 1>in there chilling, and then they like hug and I
<v Speaker 1>Eloise looks like kind of scared, And I love this
<v Speaker 1>line she says, do all lovers feel they are inventing something?
<v Speaker 3>I know?
<v Speaker 1>I yes, yes, they do. I know, like holy ship,
<v Speaker 1>who wrote this? I know?
<v Speaker 2>It's beautiful. It's like no, it's that feeling of like
<v Speaker 2>no one could have felt this way before, no one could.
<v Speaker 3>Have done one thing like before. Yeah, it's like.
<v Speaker 2>Oh so so, but also it makes you think of
<v Speaker 2>on a lighter note, some tearing up.
<v Speaker 3>Is it Trey songs?
<v Speaker 2>The Girl You're gonna think, You're gonna think I am
<v Speaker 2>being it.
<v Speaker 3>Said, That's what I thought of.
<v Speaker 1>Audience. Are you hearing the ship?
<v Speaker 3>It's a good song.
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, this is the most beautiful thing
<v Speaker 1>I have ever heard of. Caitlyn's like you whatever, I am.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know each their own, Yeah, but no, it
<v Speaker 1>is really sweet. Really, it's the same sentiments straight but basically,
<v Speaker 1>and then.
<v Speaker 3>They make out and make love.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh my god, except for we don't get to
<v Speaker 1>see it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we just know it happened.
<v Speaker 1>We just see them wake up the next day and
<v Speaker 1>I was like, was this for ratings whatever? Yeah, and
<v Speaker 1>then they take Sophie to go get her abortion. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>so that's a fun thing to do on the docket
<v Speaker 1>that day. Yeah, this scene we talked about on pagast
<v Speaker 1>This was weird to me. Yeah, Like I think she
<v Speaker 1>was like shoving some sort of pace that probably then
<v Speaker 1>would obviously terminate pregnancy. But what I thought was totally
<v Speaker 1>fucked was there was a baby lying next to Sophie. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>while she's having an abortion, and it's like eh and
<v Speaker 1>like playing with her hair, and she's like crying. I
<v Speaker 1>don't want a baby next to me when I'm terminating
<v Speaker 1>my baby.
<v Speaker 3>I know, is it weird? Because I was like I
<v Speaker 3>thought it was kind of sweet. Oh you thought that
<v Speaker 3>was sweet.
<v Speaker 1>I was totally false, Like all the baby's comforting her,
<v Speaker 1>but it is sad because she's like, I could have
<v Speaker 1>a baby, but I don't want to for however many reasons,
<v Speaker 1>and so yeah, it is like sad.
<v Speaker 3>But I thought it was sweep that the baby was
<v Speaker 3>like holding her pinky.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, cute little baby.
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, but did you really have to put the
<v Speaker 3>baby there? You keep anywhere wife for it?
<v Speaker 1>But I was just like that's wild, that that's realistic.
<v Speaker 1>But I think for me, I'd be like get that
<v Speaker 1>fucking baby away for me, because I like literally killing
<v Speaker 1>a baby right now, Like I don't want a live
<v Speaker 1>baby next to me. That would that would put me
<v Speaker 1>over the edge.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would probably have an insane I already would
<v Speaker 4>have depression after going through something like that, Like that's
<v Speaker 4>no easy decision to make.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and to have like a little life next to me,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, that would mess me yet, so I
<v Speaker 1>was like, Sophie's a stronger woman to me.
<v Speaker 3>I guess, well, yeah, she was like, hey, y'all.
<v Speaker 1>Want a pain or chill? Were we drinking wine after this?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>But also like makes me wonder like I almost felt
<v Speaker 2>like putting it in there as like kind of so
<v Speaker 2>like normal, like was like just to show like it's
<v Speaker 2>almost like almost like just like.
<v Speaker 3>Every woman gets multiple of these.
<v Speaker 2>Like in their life, so I feel like maybe her
<v Speaker 2>I've also yeah, And I mean because first of all,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, birth control wasn't really a thing. It would
<v Speaker 2>just be like you know, using the times of the
<v Speaker 2>moon and then the pull out method if the man
<v Speaker 2>agrees to it, which I don't think men were agree
<v Speaker 2>to anything at this time. And then the second part
<v Speaker 2>of what I was gonna say is that you couldn't
<v Speaker 2>say no at this time, like men literally like can
<v Speaker 2>do whatever they want to women. So it's like we
<v Speaker 2>don't know who the dad is of Sophie's terminated pregnancy,
<v Speaker 2>do we like, did she have nothing?
<v Speaker 3>Like?
<v Speaker 2>We don't know exactly, So it's like almost like.
<v Speaker 1>Girls and I we go get an abortion and then
<v Speaker 1>we red wine.
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>It was sad but I just really liked that they
<v Speaker 2>put this whole storyline in there, even though I forgot
<v Speaker 2>about it until I rewatched it.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>I do think it was cool that they showed that,
<v Speaker 1>though that seems like very controversial, especially for the time. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>well maybe that's also why they didn't show the sex,
<v Speaker 1>because they were already being controversial showing the stuff.
<v Speaker 3>They were like, you just don't see that lesbian sex.
<v Speaker 1>What happens after? Yeah? And then okay, so back at
<v Speaker 1>the house, Eloise is like, bro, we gotta paint this.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that was crazy, very ad your pains, but I
<v Speaker 1>don't disagree. That is a monumentous thing. And it was
<v Speaker 1>an interesting portrait. And the next day they're sitting portrait
<v Speaker 1>again and Eloise is cheesing so hard. She's like smiling,
<v Speaker 1>and Marianne's like stop, that keeps stille. She's like I can't. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>she's like being a dom again. And then she kisses
<v Speaker 1>her and then they make love again, and that's when
<v Speaker 1>Eloise whips out a container of drugs. Yeah, she's like, yo,
<v Speaker 1>love what I scooped at the bomb fire I picked up? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh shit, So I looked it up
<v Speaker 1>because I was like, what is this?
<v Speaker 3>Oh thank you because I didn't know what it was.
<v Speaker 1>I forgot what they called it the movies, like which
<v Speaker 1>is something. It was like. She's like, oh, it makes
<v Speaker 1>you fly, it makes time lasts longer, and they know
<v Speaker 1>that they're running out of time, so that was important.
<v Speaker 1>But it's like it was an ointment that was generally
<v Speaker 1>applied to the underarm, so that wasn't just like some
<v Speaker 1>weird shit. That was how it was applied, okay, and
<v Speaker 1>it was generally made from like man drink or belladonna
<v Speaker 1>psychotropic gonna be like a hallucinogen. Yeah, really disoriented psychedelic experience.
<v Speaker 1>So they trip balls, yeah, their eyes yeah, like eels
<v Speaker 1>are so dilated black giant.
<v Speaker 3>I was like, wow, they're fucked up. Oh yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And then Marianne sees the apparition of Eloise again, so
<v Speaker 1>it's just like.
<v Speaker 3>She's hunted by her love.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah for her. I was like, this is so fucking
<v Speaker 1>this is not gonna ad well. And then the next
<v Speaker 1>day Eloise finally gets to see the painting. It's done
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, oh, I like this one. And she's like,
<v Speaker 1>by the way, Marianne, you didn't destroy the last one
<v Speaker 1>for me because what I said, you destroyed it for yourself.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, girl, why are you starting to buy it?
<v Speaker 1>You know she gonna leave soon? And then Marianne's like,
<v Speaker 1>why want to destroy this painting too? Because when I'm
<v Speaker 1>done with it then I have to give you away
<v Speaker 1>to someone else. And I was like, oh my god,
<v Speaker 1>that's so sad, I know. And then that pisses off
<v Speaker 1>Eloise and she's just like, will you blame me for
<v Speaker 1>what's next? Because I have to get married. And then
<v Speaker 1>Marianne's like, well, yeah, because I thought you were a
<v Speaker 1>braver and Eloise is like, well I thought you were
<v Speaker 1>a braver and I was like, you.
<v Speaker 3>Guys, like, I know you have, but what am I?
<v Speaker 1>Literally? And then Eloise is like, what would you prefer
<v Speaker 1>that I resist? And Marianne's like yes, and she's like,
<v Speaker 1>well are you asking me to? And Marianne says no,
<v Speaker 1>and so Eloise just like storms out because obviously it's like,
<v Speaker 1>what do you want from me? What am I supposed
<v Speaker 1>to do?
<v Speaker 3>I feel like she wants her to resist without her
<v Speaker 3>telling her too. That was such a girl.
<v Speaker 1>I want you to do the thing that I want
<v Speaker 1>you to do without me telling you to do the
<v Speaker 1>thing that I want you to know.
<v Speaker 3>I want you to want to do it. I don't.
<v Speaker 1>And if you don't want to do it without me
<v Speaker 1>telling you that you don't really want to do it,
<v Speaker 1>you don't love me.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, then you would be just doing it to appease me.
<v Speaker 1>No, that doesn't count.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. That was what I fucked.
<v Speaker 1>And so we of course end up with the ocean,
<v Speaker 1>because the emotional parts of the meeting ocean so beautiful.
<v Speaker 3>There it is soul.
<v Speaker 1>I wish all my fights took place at the ocean, Like, wait,
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna fight? Like are we fighting right now?
<v Speaker 3>Can we go to pismeut? Really? What?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we need to come to the beach. Oh wait,
<v Speaker 1>we're not supposed to reveal our location or your location.
<v Speaker 3>It's okay.
<v Speaker 1>And then Marianne runs up from behind and hugs her
<v Speaker 1>and cries and she's like, please forgive me. So then
<v Speaker 1>they go back to the house. Oh sorry, Then they
<v Speaker 1>finished the portra It's just like little light touches. It's
<v Speaker 1>like really like yeah, like a little like white yes highlights.
<v Speaker 1>It's the finishing touches that just like really bring it
<v Speaker 1>together and truer words were never spoken when always was like, well,
<v Speaker 1>how do we know when it's finished? And mary Anne's like, well,
<v Speaker 1>at one point we just stopped. I was like, ooh,
<v Speaker 1>that is they're also talking about their relationship. No, it's
<v Speaker 1>like everything is the relationship. Yeah, so that was super cryptic.
<v Speaker 1>And then the mom gets back the next day, so
<v Speaker 1>of course they make love again. I w'ld be like,
<v Speaker 1>y'all better make love the rest of the day. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>And Marianne starts drawing a cameo of Eloise for herself
<v Speaker 1>to keep, and Eloise was like, well, I want a
<v Speaker 1>painting of you. So this part was so hot. I
<v Speaker 1>fucking love this part. She's like, okay, give me a book.
<v Speaker 1>So Eloise gives her a book of hers and she
<v Speaker 1>Marianne props up a small mirror, right, and Eloise is crying. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I know. It's like, oh, of all the places all
<v Speaker 1>that was the perfect place. Yeah, it's study.
<v Speaker 3>You know.
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I could see myself in your vagina.
<v Speaker 3>It's more ways than when, and she.
<v Speaker 1>Draws a nude self portrait of herself like full body
<v Speaker 1>on page twenty eight of Eloise's book. It's okay, I know,
<v Speaker 1>and Eloise says that she feels regret, but mary Anne
<v Speaker 1>says that she doesn't regret. She just wants to reminisce
<v Speaker 1>on their romance and wish that they hadn't wasted time
<v Speaker 1>in the beginning. Which did I say, you should have
<v Speaker 1>been fucking sooner?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>For really, No, you had to like be subtle and
<v Speaker 1>have all this yearning momentum was yearning and touching. And
<v Speaker 1>then I also love this sign. And Marianne's like, when
<v Speaker 1>you asked me if I had known love, I knew
<v Speaker 1>the answer was yes because that moment was now I know.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, I know, because I feel like
<v Speaker 2>my heart I know, because I felt like Eloise seemed
<v Speaker 2>to man would.
<v Speaker 1>Never say that to you. A man would never.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I felt like when she said it in the moment,
<v Speaker 2>Eloise seemed kind of like sad and she was She's
<v Speaker 2>thinking like, yeah, she's loved someone.
<v Speaker 1>She just has to be had an abortion, which means
<v Speaker 1>she slept with men. Yeah, and she oh, have you
<v Speaker 1>been in love? She's like yeah, she's like loved men. Yeah, yo.
<v Speaker 3>And then she's like she's like, no, it was about you.
<v Speaker 3>It's you.
<v Speaker 1>It's so so that was like, Okay, another tear jerker. Yeah, cry.
<v Speaker 1>How many was that? I don't know, And you know,
<v Speaker 1>it's just like really romantic. She's like, don't go to sleep,
<v Speaker 1>don't go to sleep. It was like not no. And
<v Speaker 1>then in the morning the mom comes back and Marianne
<v Speaker 1>is paid and has to leave. Yeah, and then when
<v Speaker 1>she goes to say goodbye to Eloise, she can't really
<v Speaker 1>bring herself over because Eloise is wearing that freaking white dress.
<v Speaker 3>That she kept seeing she'm seeing.
<v Speaker 1>And all the like apparitions, and then it like flashes forward.
<v Speaker 1>So I like that was like I was like, oh, no,
<v Speaker 1>I need to see what happens. Yeah, I'm a liber
<v Speaker 1>you need to tie this up in a bow bab.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like what the fuck?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that wasn't okay. So then we fast forward and
<v Speaker 1>Marianne's at like a gallery show and she has a
<v Speaker 1>painting of Orpheus and Eurydicy and this guy comes up
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, oh, like, is this one of your
<v Speaker 1>father's paintings. This is a really unusual post. She's like, no, dude,
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. I submitted it under my father's name because sexism.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And he.
<v Speaker 1>Was like, oh, that's interesting because they normally don't pay well,
<v Speaker 1>they normally don't paint Orpheus after he's already turned around.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, well that's because she's already turned her. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and then Lottie and then she walks over. She's like
<v Speaker 1>looking at the other paintings and she sees a painting
<v Speaker 1>of Eloise with her Then child is probably several years old,
<v Speaker 1>and she's holding a book and it's open to page
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight.
<v Speaker 3>I know. It's like she's like, yeah, like.
<v Speaker 2>Trying to show her like if you ever see this,
<v Speaker 2>like I've never forgot.
<v Speaker 1>I never hear you, and I still masturbate to page
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight. Yeah, She's like, don't worry, I'm always always
<v Speaker 1>and it's always like the fingers so sexual and yeah,
<v Speaker 1>the fingers are just like inserted.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like I wish this was you. It's just a
<v Speaker 3>picture of you.
<v Speaker 1>And then we hear Marianne say I saw her one
<v Speaker 1>more time, and they're at the theater and they're in
<v Speaker 1>the balcony but they're like too far away from each
<v Speaker 1>other and Eloise doesn't see her, and the orchestra starts playing,
<v Speaker 1>so we're like, oh, Eloise finally made it to the orchestra,
<v Speaker 1>Like that was their thing. Mari Anne was like, you
<v Speaker 1>need to or the orchestra, girl, you need to live.
<v Speaker 1>And the piece that's being performed is with All the Summer,
<v Speaker 1>which is the piece that made her smile with Marianne. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and that's the end. She just like is crying and smiling.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I think that.
<v Speaker 2>I mean they're both very good actors. I think that
<v Speaker 2>that part, like she showed so much emotion, like listening
<v Speaker 2>to the music and she's not saying anything, you know,
<v Speaker 2>And I always just think it's so amazing when actors
<v Speaker 2>show so much with just like their facial expressions, and
<v Speaker 2>she was really showing so much.
<v Speaker 3>I was like, did she get in a word for listen,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>She read and remorse and then longing and then like
<v Speaker 1>memory and reminiscing and then happiness and then like happy
<v Speaker 1>here she went through the game. Yes, like bitch, looked.
<v Speaker 3>At your legs.
<v Speaker 1>I know.
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, she's there. It's like literally like she's staring.
<v Speaker 1>You don't have survival mechanisms, Yeah, Like do you not
<v Speaker 1>feel She's like I'm just used to people looking at
<v Speaker 1>me all the time, you know, all obviously.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, Okay, So.
<v Speaker 1>For like the trope of like the lesbians don't end
<v Speaker 1>up together. I thought this one was like past the test.
<v Speaker 1>It was it was an okay way for them to
<v Speaker 1>not end up together. Yeah. Also because it's seventeen sixty girl,
<v Speaker 1>there was no way they were going together. They were dead.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Like it was more realistic in that they didn't
<v Speaker 2>end up together, but they also still always loved each
<v Speaker 2>other and they were both of each other.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Like the way that Marianne spoke of the story was
<v Speaker 2>like with so much love and then you can see
<v Speaker 2>obviously from the painting and from the way that she
<v Speaker 2>that Eloise was reacting to the music that it's like
<v Speaker 2>she's still always will love her.
<v Speaker 1>You know what's crazy though, is if you're saying about it,
<v Speaker 1>they were probably chilling for like two weeks.
<v Speaker 2>I know, but that's so lesbian. They were like I
<v Speaker 2>am in love with you, okay. But also that does
<v Speaker 2>you think of Titanic, because you know how it's like
<v Speaker 2>love store like five days. Yes, it was such a
<v Speaker 2>short amount of time, but it's like a girl for
<v Speaker 2>five days. Man, there was room watch someone there, wasn't
<v Speaker 2>it MythBusters or whatever thing?
<v Speaker 1>They tried it out and they were like, no, that
<v Speaker 1>piece of wood could have held too body.
<v Speaker 2>She was just a spoiled brat. She was like, now
<v Speaker 2>you can be down there.
<v Speaker 1>Science says Jack could have fit.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I'm still so sad about It's literally it's gonna be
<v Speaker 2>thirty years next year since that movie came out. I
<v Speaker 2>hope they do something special. I've seen it at the theater.
<v Speaker 2>Well obviously when I was a child, I saw it
<v Speaker 2>at the theater, and then I saw it like a
<v Speaker 2>couple of years ago. I made boga with me because
<v Speaker 2>I was like, they have Titanic at the ag Theater,
<v Speaker 2>but they need to do something that's just special for thirtieth. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that's crazy. Okay, I don't know. I love Titanic. I'd go, yes, okay,
<v Speaker 2>and we'll dress like, uh, like Titanic era.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm down. One of the things I love dressing
<v Speaker 1>up in my black tie.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I just I I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I do love like old, older movies and period pieces
<v Speaker 2>because I like.
<v Speaker 1>To look at the outfits and I'm always like, my gun,
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, they're not wearing blue jeans. I'm always
<v Speaker 1>like I remember when I was a kid, it would
<v Speaker 1>I would always watch Titanic because it's my favorite movie
<v Speaker 1>and try to pick out, like, what's my favorite outfit
<v Speaker 1>that she wore? You know, I like the outfit that
<v Speaker 1>she wears when she goes into steerage and she gets
<v Speaker 1>drunk and she does the like tippy toes. She's wearing
<v Speaker 1>like this like red and black dress. It's so beautiful.
<v Speaker 3>Man.
<v Speaker 1>I love that movie. Its reasons to wear them, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I know, like we can dress up for the podcast.
<v Speaker 1>This is my reason to buy ridiculous things. I told
<v Speaker 1>you I forgot I had this. This is actually a
<v Speaker 1>seventies dress.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it totally worre.
<v Speaker 1>That was my grandmother's.
<v Speaker 3>That's cool.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Oh, I forgot I had that shout
<v Speaker 1>out to grandma. Yeah recently she's dead though, so she
<v Speaker 1>would have been one hundred and thirteen. Oh my god.
<v Speaker 3>That would be like one of the oldest people I
<v Speaker 3>ever had. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she'd be in the Guinness Book World Record.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well this was fun. Thank you. We're going to
<v Speaker 3>do We're going to do much much murder. Lord, I
<v Speaker 3>haven't thought about my answers.
<v Speaker 2>Our options are Eloise, Marianne, and Sophie.
<v Speaker 1>What would what would you say? Said this last time
<v Speaker 1>don't love blondes. Oh yeah, plus mary Anne is giving
<v Speaker 1>more of the mask energy. Yeah, so I guess I would.
<v Speaker 1>I don't find Sophie attracted. No, so I'm gonna munchallow ease,
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna marry Marianne even though she probably doesn't want
<v Speaker 1>to get married, and then murder Sophie.
<v Speaker 3>Ah, for Sophie, that's okay.
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it's so hard because there's not enough like characters
<v Speaker 2>that they give that much of like information on.
<v Speaker 3>And I didn't want to put the mom.
<v Speaker 2>She's cute and fun, yeah, but I didn't like her
<v Speaker 2>because she's making her daughter get married.
<v Speaker 1>So I felt like, oh, I met Sophie, not the mom.
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I mean, I'm not sure.
<v Speaker 1>The mom's cute and fun. The mom was probably cute
<v Speaker 1>and fun when she was younger.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's like, oh she's a pretty woman though, yes,
<v Speaker 3>Like no, that's why I almost put her.
<v Speaker 2>But then I was like, no, because she's a bitch,
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like we murder her.
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know, Okay, So yeah I would have
<v Speaker 3>murdered the mom.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so okay, I think, Yeah, I think I guess
<v Speaker 2>I would probably go the same way. I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>because I really like Sophie. But she looks to me like, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>she looks like the little girl in the meme that
<v Speaker 2>is like wearing like she's wearing like a purple headband thing,
<v Speaker 2>and she's like like you I'm talking.
<v Speaker 1>About she has long I'm not okay, Well, she looks
<v Speaker 1>like this little girl from a meme, and so I
<v Speaker 1>know she's aul.
<v Speaker 3>She looks like a baby.
<v Speaker 1>That's no.
<v Speaker 3>Like now, she reminds me of those little girl from
<v Speaker 3>me that's a child.
<v Speaker 1>Nothing, yeah, no, no murder yeah, so I so I
<v Speaker 1>have to murder her.
<v Speaker 3>She's a child.
<v Speaker 2>I will murder her, and then I would yeah, I
<v Speaker 2>would also merge with Marianne and Manchell Louise because yeah,
<v Speaker 2>Marianne was giving more dominant mask energy and should we have.
<v Speaker 1>Married Eloise save her her hetero marriage?
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, but in that time, they wouldn't let you
<v Speaker 3>there was Mary or you there.
<v Speaker 1>Well, if it wasn't the caveat that this was in
<v Speaker 1>seventeen six, if.
<v Speaker 3>Any time traveled to now, yeah, then.
<v Speaker 2>We could say no, I'm sticking with what I said,
<v Speaker 2>but good idea, okay, And then what would you rate
<v Speaker 2>this movie on a scale of one to five.
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna rate it a four out of five cherries?
<v Speaker 3>Why not five?
<v Speaker 1>I wanted more sex?
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it's true.
<v Speaker 1>Well it was French. If it were American, I'd be like, wow,
<v Speaker 1>I would have been blown away because American movies can
<v Speaker 1>be really like trivializing, yeah, and not moving. But since
<v Speaker 1>it was French, I hold it to a higher standard.
<v Speaker 3>That makes sense. I agree, but that's hard.
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm also just like a five out of
<v Speaker 1>five movie is like you're one of your favorites to me,
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm raiding it too, Like.
<v Speaker 2>No, I just I throw fives out like like throwing
<v Speaker 2>monopoly money.
<v Speaker 3>So I gave it a five.
<v Speaker 2>Five?
<v Speaker 1>Were you open? Yes? I really like just to serve
<v Speaker 1>a five too. I'm just big yeah, No, that's okay.
<v Speaker 1>I I understand. I am also not gonna like go
<v Speaker 1>to bath for it, like you have to give it
<v Speaker 1>a five.
<v Speaker 2>Remember that in like elementary school, where kids would be like,
<v Speaker 2>we're not friends anymore if you don't do this.
<v Speaker 3>That's so sad.
<v Speaker 2>AnyWho, Okay, cool, Well it got good ratings from both
<v Speaker 2>of us, So what was your rating?
<v Speaker 3>I said five? Oh you did?
<v Speaker 1>Wait? Maybe I didn't say heart. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, it's a five okay, I think yeah, yes,
<v Speaker 2>five five five five in my opinion. And the first
<v Speaker 2>time I watched it, I probably would have said four.
<v Speaker 2>But then when I rewatched it, I paid more attention.
<v Speaker 2>I have the problem of not paying attention, So I
<v Speaker 2>liked it. Also, I kind of dreamed about it last
<v Speaker 2>night because I knew we were going to talk about
<v Speaker 2>it today, just like I was like a lady, a
<v Speaker 2>lady in a fancy outfit. Are you on the but no,
<v Speaker 2>I was just like on a beach on the rocks.
<v Speaker 2>I think also because I watched that Send Help movie
<v Speaker 2>and there was also a beach. So anyhow, we're gonna
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<v Speaker 2>It will have exclusive content, not spicy. Well, we're going
<v Speaker 2>to talk about spicy things. But it's not like OnlyFans
<v Speaker 2>vibes anyway. It's like minisubs. Okay, I'm gonna stop talking
<v Speaker 2>and go to our break and then we'll come back
<v Speaker 2>and do fun stuff.
<v Speaker 3>Welcome back.
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna do some fun questions with our guest Victoria,
<v Speaker 2>and I put these they're like kind of like rapid
<v Speaker 2>fire questions, but I want you to feel free to
<v Speaker 2>elaborate because I feel like rapid fire questions are like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>you just have to answer it and give me no context.
<v Speaker 3>But I like it if you tell the story but
<v Speaker 3>don't feel pressured.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, tell a story, no pressure, but tell the story, but.
<v Speaker 3>Tell the story. But yeah, okay, so well some of these.
<v Speaker 1>Are no story. I know, like actually there's okay, so
<v Speaker 1>coffee tea or neither both, Okay, So why what's the
<v Speaker 1>story you don't have to coffee to wake up, tea
<v Speaker 1>to keep going.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, what's your favorite kind of tea?
<v Speaker 1>Kind of a boba?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I love like the what it's called like tiger.
<v Speaker 1>Like lady gray tea. Of course I would like something
<v Speaker 1>with the word lady in it.
<v Speaker 3>Lady fingers. I always think that's the funniest word.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, anyway, Well, because it's cookies, right, lady fingers.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, but the way you said it was so odd.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, you guys.
<v Speaker 1>Also, I really have to pee, but I don't want
<v Speaker 1>to go yet. So if I'm being weird, it's also because.
<v Speaker 2>I'm okayp it up now, okay, mask, fem, chapstick or
<v Speaker 2>any any yeah, just any Okay.
<v Speaker 1>This is funny because I've only I have been with chapsticks. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>but I like masks.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so me too, An, I don't know, they're so hot.
<v Speaker 2>I remember, like, I feel like there's a shortage, Okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>is that wrong?
<v Speaker 1>Is that a fallacy?
<v Speaker 3>No? People say that. I think that in a way,
<v Speaker 3>there might be. But here's the thing. I think maybe
<v Speaker 3>a good mask is in.
<v Speaker 2>A shortage because there's a lot of fuck boy ones
<v Speaker 2>out there that will just fuck anybody and you can
<v Speaker 2>have them for a night, but like you don't really
<v Speaker 2>get to have them like be your girlfriend. But then
<v Speaker 2>also I think that there is like a lot of
<v Speaker 2>masks that don't fit into like the TikTok mask skinny,
<v Speaker 2>tall and white that a lot of people think of.
<v Speaker 2>And so then it's like there, I wasn't thinking skinny
<v Speaker 2>oh good, because I feel like that's a thing that
<v Speaker 2>you're white, oh good.
<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of time.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can be those things, but not exclusively
<v Speaker 1>for me.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like thicker than a snicker, I would prefer.
<v Speaker 3>No, Okay, I just I've I've seen like a lot.
<v Speaker 2>Of talk of like they're this this mask shortage, but
<v Speaker 2>I think I don't know, maybe it depends, It depends. Also, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I'm just lucky because I have mine, and I've had
<v Speaker 2>mine for how many years?
<v Speaker 3>Since twenty twelve a decade or more.
<v Speaker 2>Like fourteen years we've been together and she's so cute. Okay, anyway,
<v Speaker 2>what is a red flag you ignore every time?
<v Speaker 1>This one was hard because I ignore a lot of restaurants.
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I thought you're gonna be like because I
<v Speaker 2>don't ignore them, do you not know.
<v Speaker 1>Me, you still like pretty much only go out with attics,
<v Speaker 1>So that clearly was a red flag I didn't care about. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>like I can fix you. Lately, I guess I've been
<v Speaker 1>dating emotionally unavailable bable Yeah, well nothing, I'm not trying
<v Speaker 1>to fix them, just like, okay.
<v Speaker 3>That's fine. I guess. Okay, what's a green flag that
<v Speaker 3>has you folding? Immediately? I I was like emotional availace.
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be like, I don't know what a
<v Speaker 1>green flag is. I don't know. I don't think a
<v Speaker 1>date very like healthy people. Hypothetically, I would say, kindness
<v Speaker 1>to strangers sounds really attractive.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know, that's so sweet, I'm gonna say,
<v Speaker 2>because I love to talk about myself.
<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry.
<v Speaker 1>Oh I thought we were going back and forth here.
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay.
<v Speaker 2>Today we were at the store and wow, you know,
<v Speaker 2>she's the sweetest. There was this old lady that was
<v Speaker 2>in the little like you know the cart that you
<v Speaker 2>can rent or whatever, but you know the cart you
<v Speaker 2>get with the last game, and she was like stuck
<v Speaker 2>because one of the workers had like left their like
<v Speaker 2>big like cart that they were taking stuff off. They
<v Speaker 2>left it like kind of right in her way, and
<v Speaker 2>so the lady looked all confused, and then Wam was like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>do you want me to move this? So she like
<v Speaker 2>moved the worker's cart for her so she could get through,
<v Speaker 2>and I just thought it was so sweet.
<v Speaker 3>But then I'm also like, no, wonder people think.
<v Speaker 1>She works everywhere she goes because she's been nice to people,
<v Speaker 1>like as if she works there. Damn.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, what is the best compliment to receive?
<v Speaker 1>I like being told him smart? Oh my god, yeah right,
<v Speaker 1>because we're both aquariouses. But my favorite word is captivating
<v Speaker 1>because it's like everything captivating. People are like probably good looking, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>probably smart, and like infinitely interesting. It's just like the trifecta. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>if you call me captivating, I will melt into your hand,
<v Speaker 1>Like that's anyone out there wants to date me, call
<v Speaker 1>me captivating?
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yes.
<v Speaker 2>This is also giving tips all the people listening, like
<v Speaker 2>if you have a crush on some crush.
<v Speaker 1>On someone, tell them they're captivating. May like us a
<v Speaker 1>British act. I don't know cuptivating? Was that austrillia?
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what?
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's wat I go back. I use your
<v Speaker 1>normal act.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you're really good at a fresh accent, do it.
<v Speaker 2>If you sound like me, don't do it. What's a
<v Speaker 2>movie you've rewatched for one specific scene?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you know I'm not like a big movie guy. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I work on this podcast.
<v Speaker 3>Is it a really old movie? No, like Casablanca. I
<v Speaker 3>don't know.
<v Speaker 1>No, the movie's bored.
<v Speaker 3>I've never seen it.
<v Speaker 1>I really like Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mine. Oh yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's my favorite movie. So I would just rewatch it period. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>but I really like the scene where they're like lying
<v Speaker 1>on the frozen Have you seen that movie?
<v Speaker 3>No, I still haven't seen it.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to you. So
<v Speaker 1>I remember the scene where like they're lying on the
<v Speaker 1>frozen river and it's like a downward shot and they're
<v Speaker 1>illuminated and so you see all the like cracks in
<v Speaker 1>the ice and they're just holding hands. And if you know,
<v Speaker 1>the basic premise of the movie, like he is having
<v Speaker 1>Joel's having Clementine erase from his mind because they had
<v Speaker 1>a bad breakup and also she's like kind of fricking crazy.
<v Speaker 1>But in the middle of this procedure, which he's kind
<v Speaker 1>of asleep for he's like, I don't want to do
<v Speaker 1>this anymore.
<v Speaker 3>Wake me up.
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do this anymore. And so he's
<v Speaker 1>trying to hide her in his mind so that he
<v Speaker 1>doesn't lose all of his memories. So that's the spotless
<v Speaker 1>mind part, is they're trying to they're wiping his mind
<v Speaker 1>of her and he because it's getting rid of the pain,
<v Speaker 1>but he would rather keep the The thing is you
<v Speaker 1>want to keep the pain in order to keep the
<v Speaker 1>positive memories as well that the pleasure. Yeah, and so
<v Speaker 1>like that's like one of the pinnacle moments where he
<v Speaker 1>like realizes like I don't I don't want to erase you,
<v Speaker 1>like I fucked up. Yeah, girl, you gotta watch that movie.
<v Speaker 1>I know music is really interesting. I'm definitely like a
<v Speaker 1>contemporary kind of classical nerd and yeah, so it's it's
<v Speaker 1>very very fun interesting movie.
<v Speaker 2>I have been saying I need to watch it since
<v Speaker 2>it came out like twenty something years ago.
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't in like two thousand.
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely right.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know anyway, I want to watch it obviously
<v Speaker 2>because Kate One's life is so beautiful and I was like, wow,
<v Speaker 2>she's hair, yeah, and she's.
<v Speaker 1>She's like manic Pixie but with long hair. It's really fun.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I need to watch it.
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Jim Carrey, yeah, like favorite straight dude ever. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>he was Pegro Pascal before Peasure Pascal. He's just a
<v Speaker 1>good guy.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing about Jim Carrey, I don't think
<v Speaker 1>his humor is for me, like the funny in this movie.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, because I'm like, that's why I never really like.
<v Speaker 1>He's just heart broke. You're like, okay, okay, cool, No,
<v Speaker 1>there's no slapstickering.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, good, So who's hotter Jim Carrey? No, just kidding.
<v Speaker 3>Tortured artists or confident menace?
<v Speaker 1>Tortured artist? Yeah, I don't even think that needs elaboration. You're,
<v Speaker 1>like I said, with a menace. When I'm a menace,
<v Speaker 1>there can only be.
<v Speaker 2>Wide you know what I think of when I think
<v Speaker 2>of a confident menace?
<v Speaker 1>Who you know?
<v Speaker 3>Uh?
<v Speaker 2>Sam Rockwell's character in Charlie's Angels, Okay, he's only where
<v Speaker 2>he's like dancing. I don't know, That's that's what I
<v Speaker 2>think of. And he was a tool, but he was
<v Speaker 2>like kind of attractive.
<v Speaker 3>In a way.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like foot boys tools. Yeah, I'm almost like
<v Speaker 1>those are the confident menaces. I don't yeah, nohing give
<v Speaker 1>me as a tortured artist. It's just like I'm not
<v Speaker 1>good enough. I'd be like, yes you are, babe, I
<v Speaker 1>can kill you.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like it's fine. Okay, would you survive a horror
<v Speaker 3>movie or yes? You would not be the person that
<v Speaker 3>dies first?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, First of all, I don't think I'm hot enough
<v Speaker 1>to die first or dark skinned enough.
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, it's so racist how they do that.
<v Speaker 1>Sorry not sorry, But I'm also that guy where I'm
<v Speaker 1>just like why did you make that choice? Like all
<v Speaker 1>the time, that's why you don't watch these movies with me? Like,
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, why didn't you pick up a weapon?
<v Speaker 1>Why did you answer the phone? Why are you still there?
<v Speaker 3>Why would you answer the door? Yeah, like you know
<v Speaker 3>all the police.
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm just like, what are you doing? Yeah? So
<v Speaker 1>will I make it to the end? I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely making it to the middle.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, okay, that's good. Who would you want to play?
<v Speaker 1>What are you or you gonna get killed?
<v Speaker 3>Or no? Oh? Probably I would because I feel like,
<v Speaker 3>you know how white people are.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like all this no but the white girl usually
<v Speaker 1>well sometimes she dies first lately, but usually she dies second.
<v Speaker 1>Oh I was like, or I wasn't a black guy
<v Speaker 1>then white girl. Yeah, it's like slutsky first.
<v Speaker 2>So it's usually like if there's a girl having sex, oh,
<v Speaker 2>she's dying. Especially is it a white girl having sex
<v Speaker 2>with the black guy. They're both they're both dying first.
<v Speaker 2>But no, I don't think I would like survive till
<v Speaker 2>the end because I don't have final girl like yeah, Like,
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I would be that good at like coming,
<v Speaker 2>you know, uh mending my injuries on the fly and
<v Speaker 2>like you know, running when my like leg is broken,
<v Speaker 2>you know, all the crazy ship that they do. But like,
<v Speaker 2>I probably wouldn't be like first. So yeah, we'd be
<v Speaker 2>say the middle pack people.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's fine, and hopefully, like I don't know, we
<v Speaker 1>would get saved somehow.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. No, I probably die. Who would you
<v Speaker 3>want to play you in a movie of your life?
<v Speaker 1>A little unrealistic, but I think that halle Berry would
<v Speaker 1>be Yeah, they'd have to curl her hair or something,
<v Speaker 1>and then young me would be Zendia. I also have
<v Speaker 1>to fix something with their hair. But I think those
<v Speaker 1>two would make a good young to old transition of
<v Speaker 1>each other.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's true.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>No, they would accept that, accept that some dance so
<v Speaker 2>tall and halle Berry's like average height.
<v Speaker 1>I think you can fix that, Okay, you just about Oh,
<v Speaker 1>it's all about casting.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, like the people around and then.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you only cast really tall people around Zandia,
<v Speaker 1>and then it'll make her look like she's growing and
<v Speaker 1>she's short. And then if everyone's only a little bit
<v Speaker 1>taller than holle Bury, them just seemed like she grew
<v Speaker 1>up and got taller. Okay, Yeah, they'd have to cast
<v Speaker 1>around those characters.
<v Speaker 3>Like it's fine, I gotta yes.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what is a film you'd put on for a
<v Speaker 2>date to set the tone?
<v Speaker 1>Okay? So it depends on the date though, Yeah right,
<v Speaker 1>because like what's the tone? So are we trying to smash?
<v Speaker 3>That's what I took it as.
<v Speaker 1>And it's like clean of the damned? Maybe, oh my god,
<v Speaker 1>all the deaf tones music? Yeah, okay, but that's like fun,
<v Speaker 1>that's like fucking yeah. If I want us to like
<v Speaker 1>feed each other strawberries and have sex in front of
<v Speaker 1>my fireplace, yeah, then I'm gonna put on chocolate lot.
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I've never seen that.
<v Speaker 1>If you can stand Johnny up, it's yeah sexy. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>this is before we knew he like was a bad yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And then if it's like I want you to be
<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend or girlfriend, I was gonna say, put on
<v Speaker 1>say anything.
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's like my wife's favorite movie ever, so cute. Okay.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I thought this was a funny question because the
<v Speaker 2>first time that me and while I had sex, I
<v Speaker 2>got like. She came over and I was I think
<v Speaker 2>we were twenty one, and I made her really strong
<v Speaker 2>shots and she's not used to drinking, but I was
<v Speaker 2>like drinking all the time.
<v Speaker 1>So we were like hammered, got her drawn. Yeah, but
<v Speaker 1>I was also drunk, but I know.
<v Speaker 2>Then my roommate was out of town because I shared
<v Speaker 2>a room with my roommate, but he was not there,
<v Speaker 2>and so we I was like, do you want to
<v Speaker 2>go watch a movie? And then I'm pretty sure I
<v Speaker 2>put on Mean Girls. I meant she was actually trying
<v Speaker 2>to watch the movie, and I.
<v Speaker 1>Was like, wah, is a lovely person.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, She's like, oh, you were love choice, and I
<v Speaker 2>was like trying to have sex didn't you set the
<v Speaker 2>right tone? Yeah, so that was of the damn Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know. I also had a very limited amount
<v Speaker 2>of DVDs.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, for sure, we didn't have streaming.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it was like that or in the morning
<v Speaker 2>we watched Down in the Valley with Evan Rachel Wood
<v Speaker 2>and Edward Nor.
<v Speaker 1>At least has a more suggestive titles.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, but then it's like he's like a crazy
<v Speaker 2>older guy.
<v Speaker 3>Have you seen this movie?
<v Speaker 1>No, but it sounds like it would have bored her
<v Speaker 1>and she would have been like, yeah, I should have
<v Speaker 1>put that in the morning when I had to leave anyway, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>and what's a movie you would defend with your life,
<v Speaker 1>even though it's questionable. Wayne's World Part Time excellent.
<v Speaker 2>Whenever someone mentions, well, when it was Lincoln's birthday, I
<v Speaker 2>always think of when, which was, Yes, it was like
<v Speaker 2>if you were president, you'd be baber him.
<v Speaker 1>There's so many quotables in that movie.
<v Speaker 3>It's so fun.
<v Speaker 1>But it also like didn't age well, No, it's kind
<v Speaker 1>of weird. It's super sexist and misogynistic. Yeah. The female
<v Speaker 1>characters are one dimensional.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I love it. It's just so funny.
<v Speaker 2>So I agree. Okay, these were really fun questions.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, thank you, this is fine. I want to do
<v Speaker 1>a queer trivia all right, I'm gonna suck at this.
<v Speaker 3>That's okay. They're hard.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not good at trivia.
<v Speaker 3>Well maybe maybe you'll know. No, oh, this is hard. Okay.
<v Speaker 2>Where was The Advocate first published as a local newsletter
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen sixty seven, A New York B, Minneapolis, C.
<v Speaker 2>San Francisco, or D Los Angeles.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. So I'm going to go with the
<v Speaker 1>gayest sitting in the world and say San Francisco.
<v Speaker 2>I know that's what I would say too, But it's LA.
<v Speaker 2>At least it's in California.
<v Speaker 1>All right?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>Does that make us the gayest state?
<v Speaker 3>Then? Okay.
<v Speaker 2>So it's interesting because I would think of when I
<v Speaker 2>think of gay states, I think of California. But Massachusetts
<v Speaker 2>is the gayest state because they were, like, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>they have they have what is it, Cape Provincetown that's gay.
<v Speaker 3>It's this whole town of gays.
<v Speaker 2>We was Okay, that's true, but they were also the first.
<v Speaker 2>They were also the first to make gay marriage legal.
<v Speaker 1>Right, But when you think of Massachusetts, you don't think
<v Speaker 1>of like massa.
<v Speaker 3>No, I think of massholes like I think of like yeah,
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like I think at from the challenge.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like no, okay, yeah, oh I think California really easy?
<v Speaker 1>Oh really I think so Okay who famously said we
<v Speaker 1>are all born naked and the rest is drought? My
<v Speaker 1>favorite Lady co God.
<v Speaker 3>I love her.
<v Speaker 1>No, it's not do you want to hear your trouble? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's like, wow, did you just attribute oh black queens?
<v Speaker 1>Oh Lady God. Lady got around so funny because I
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, you were born this way. And then
<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait, we're all bun naked in you
<v Speaker 1>got ahead of yourself.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sorry, but look see it's because you said was easy.
<v Speaker 3>And then I got Mary.
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, rue.
<v Speaker 3>Given a choice. No, I was like, I'm so sure
<v Speaker 3>it's Lady Gaga. That was embarrassing.
<v Speaker 1>Shocked. I was like, wow, you're good at these. Okay, Well,
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I didn't just get mine wrong. No, it's yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I love drag race you guys, I swear, but that's okay.
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Okay, that was so fun. Thank you for tuning
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