<v Speaker 1>Welcome to But I'm a Lesbian, the podcast where we
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<v Speaker 2>Caitlin and Angelina. Get ready for some Saphig serotonin. And
<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be a lot today because we're reviewing a classic,
<v Speaker 2>a fave of the pod. I feel like we've mentioned
<v Speaker 2>it multiple times before. Also, I have a giant movie
<v Speaker 2>poster of it somewhere, but I can't I don't know where.
<v Speaker 2>Originally that was going to be our backdrop was the
<v Speaker 2>movie poster of this movie, but it was slightly too small,
<v Speaker 2>so the window still like put in too much light
<v Speaker 2>and it didn't work over the thing anyway. The movie
<v Speaker 2>is Green Tomatoes, which is from nineteen ninety one and
<v Speaker 2>stars Kathy Bates, Mary Stuart Masterson, and Mary Louise Parker.
<v Speaker 2>So many marries right. This film is not explicitly WLW,
<v Speaker 2>but it's pretty commonly accepted in the LGBTQ community as
<v Speaker 2>a film that center's annisopphak couple and the book version
<v Speaker 2>is more obviously queer, like they are mentioned as a couple.
<v Speaker 2>There is a part in the book when Igy is
<v Speaker 2>a kid and she meets Ruth and the mom says
<v Speaker 2>something about like, don't make fun of your sister. She
<v Speaker 2>has a crush blah blah blah. And I remember reading that,
<v Speaker 2>I was like, she has a crush on a girl,
<v Speaker 2>you know, because oh, this is okay. I also, as
<v Speaker 2>a child, I was a very like voracious reader. So
<v Speaker 2>I was reading this when I was like eight or nine,
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like it was like four
<v Speaker 2>grown ups. So anyway, point being, it was based on
<v Speaker 2>a book. The book is called Fried Green Tomatoes at
<v Speaker 2>the whistle Stop Cafe, so slightly different. They just shortened
<v Speaker 2>the title for the movie. But anyway, when they made
<v Speaker 2>it into a movie, it was you know, they were
<v Speaker 2>filming it in like nineteen ninety probably because it came
<v Speaker 2>out in nineteen ninety one. That was not an easy
<v Speaker 2>time to make a mainstream, like blockbuster type of movie
<v Speaker 2>about lesbian so they kind of just I feel as
<v Speaker 2>if in this movie and I noticed it more rewatching it.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you are like gay, especially or you
<v Speaker 2>are like looking at it with I mean, I guess
<v Speaker 2>you could think they're just very best friends, and I
<v Speaker 2>feel like that's what the movie centers it as.
<v Speaker 1>Like, Yeah, no, they're not just best friends.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, they're literally a couple. They raise a child together, sage.
<v Speaker 1>If you read into it, you could see that there
<v Speaker 1>is more than just friendship.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, they're very best friends, as my grandma's friends,
<v Speaker 2>very special. Yeah, they're a special friend, her roommate. So
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to ask. So this movie is named after
<v Speaker 2>a classic Southern dish. Okay, so I have two questions. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>first is have you ever had fried green tomatoes?
<v Speaker 1>No?
<v Speaker 2>Have you? Yes? Okay, they're using ow I know, but
<v Speaker 2>I really want to make them. But the thing is,
<v Speaker 2>you can't really buy green tomatoes like so easily. So
<v Speaker 2>you have to know somebody that is growing tomatoes and
<v Speaker 2>you can, like I don't know, pick them off when
<v Speaker 2>they're still green, I think. But I had them a
<v Speaker 2>long time ago because I was obsessed with this movie.
<v Speaker 2>And so when I was like ten or eleven, there
<v Speaker 2>used to be like a Cajun creole restaurant near us
<v Speaker 2>and they had fried green tomatoes on the menu.
<v Speaker 1>So I me and my.
<v Speaker 2>Dad, right so that I could try it.
<v Speaker 1>How did you like them?
<v Speaker 2>It's delicious. It's just it's just fried food. And you
<v Speaker 2>dip it in like a like a creamy like ranch
<v Speaker 2>type of sauce. Delicious. That sounds great, pretty delicious. You
<v Speaker 2>dip it in a sauce so good.
<v Speaker 1>You love sauce, literally sauce.
<v Speaker 2>It's whatever it is. I don't care. It's a tomato,
<v Speaker 2>it's a vehicle for the sauce exactly. I was into it, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>But my second question is what is your favorite food
<v Speaker 2>of all time? And it's okay if you can't think
<v Speaker 2>of when you can name multiple foods, because it's really.
<v Speaker 1>Hard to Okay, that is true food. I feel like
<v Speaker 1>that's what we have in common as well. We love food,
<v Speaker 1>we love kinds of food. I haven't really thought of it,
<v Speaker 1>I guess since I've been vegetarian, because before my absolute
<v Speaker 1>all time favorite food was either chicken floatas or chicken
<v Speaker 1>and chilas. So now moving from that, I want to
<v Speaker 1>say something that I've come to really like before because
<v Speaker 1>I've never made it. I would just have it be
<v Speaker 1>mac and cheese.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, mac and cheese. When it's not like just like
<v Speaker 2>the Kraft mac and cheese. Yeah, somebody that makes like
<v Speaker 2>the baked kind. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And then since like Yami made it that one time
<v Speaker 1>and then I made it and then I made it again.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, I can do this and I
<v Speaker 1>really like it. What about you?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I love food. Have you had have you ever
<v Speaker 2>had enchiladas with potatoes? Uh?
<v Speaker 1>No, I've had like doccos.
<v Speaker 2>But okay, well if you like that, you might like
<v Speaker 2>making with potatoes, because that's like I think I told
<v Speaker 2>you this was. Mom made us so many potato and
<v Speaker 2>gilata and they're so good. I fucking love them. And
<v Speaker 2>she put like vegan cheese on them too, and red sauce.
<v Speaker 2>But she always makes them with like potatoes and carrots.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I probably don't need any for like another
<v Speaker 2>year because she made us so many and we were like,
<v Speaker 2>but we finished them all. I'm really proud. We also
<v Speaker 2>finished all the tamalies that she made.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was gonna say, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>For Christmas, she made us a giant like I don't
<v Speaker 2>know how much this would weigh in pounds, at least
<v Speaker 2>two or three pounds pasole, so vegan pasole. And then
<v Speaker 2>and then she made us like probably two dozen vegan
<v Speaker 2>tomalies with like red sauce and soy, and I was
<v Speaker 2>really proud because we finished it all this year. Usually
<v Speaker 2>we don't finish it all and then it's like the
<v Speaker 2>end and we're like, oh no, the fasola is going bad,
<v Speaker 2>like we sucked, but we like made it.
<v Speaker 1>You made it a mission.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like we ate breakfast, lunch and dinners and then
<v Speaker 2>that the same thing we did. I think around New
<v Speaker 2>Year's she yeah, I think on New Year's Day she
<v Speaker 2>made us all of those potato and giladas, so we
<v Speaker 2>were like eating them for a week. Wow, we're finally done.
<v Speaker 2>They're so good. But anyway, I thought you might like
<v Speaker 2>those because that's like one of my favorite foods is
<v Speaker 2>the because she loves enchiladas. So potato. But okay, I.
<v Speaker 1>Haven't try that. Yeah, I just usually do cheese.
<v Speaker 2>Now.
<v Speaker 1>Well, for Christmas, we did just like cheese.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>None of my family likes like any of the meat
<v Speaker 1>in there.
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, They're just like cheese.
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, okay, fun, but I will try.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Potatoes are so good. The other thing
<v Speaker 2>is that the potato topcos are so fucking good.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I love potatoes, but that's not my favorite food.
<v Speaker 2>My favorite food. Okay, this is really hard and I
<v Speaker 2>feel bad because it's, well, it's kind of specific, but
<v Speaker 2>this is so basic of me. But I love pizza.
<v Speaker 2>It's my favorite thing. I love pizza, and my favorite
<v Speaker 2>toppings are pineapples and jalapano, so you get sweet and spicy,
<v Speaker 2>and it is also my wife's favorite. So it's like
<v Speaker 2>we knew we were meant to be together because anyone
<v Speaker 2>else that that's their favorite toppings.
<v Speaker 1>But someone out there right now is like, pineapple should
<v Speaker 1>not be on beefp I hate that.
<v Speaker 2>It's so good, it's like the sweetness. And then every
<v Speaker 2>once in a while, if we're feeling fancy and we
<v Speaker 2>want to pay for another topping, we'll get red onions.
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's such a colorful, beautiful pizza. And then my
<v Speaker 2>other favorite. I love so many foods, but I fucking
<v Speaker 2>love sushi, and so like usually once a year for
<v Speaker 2>my birthday. I might have mentioned this on another episode.
<v Speaker 2>We drive down because the closest like vegan sushi place
<v Speaker 2>is like two hours away, two or three hours away,
<v Speaker 2>so we like drive down there and I get like
<v Speaker 2>a buttload of sushi because it's like you can get
<v Speaker 2>vegan sushi anyway, you can get an avocado roll or whatever,
<v Speaker 2>but it's like so basic and like places in like
<v Speaker 2>bigger cities will have like they make like spicy tuna
<v Speaker 2>out of like pickled tomatoes and stuff like, they're very
<v Speaker 2>like creative. And then also if you like the crunchy rolls,
<v Speaker 2>a lot of times at a non vegan sushi place,
<v Speaker 2>they don't. There's weird stuff in the batter, like the
<v Speaker 2>batter they like add egg or whatever, so they don't
<v Speaker 2>do that at this place. Okay, So I love sushi.
<v Speaker 2>I love all types of sushi, and I love tay food,
<v Speaker 2>like pumpkin curry is like.
<v Speaker 1>My Okay, ever since we had that, I have been
<v Speaker 1>wanting to get it so bad. Is really good too.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yes, okay. I also I do like mock duck
<v Speaker 2>in things. When they have it as an option, I
<v Speaker 2>like to get it, but otherwise I'll just get tofu. Anyway,
<v Speaker 2>I love food. I'm surprised I didn't mention a sweet
<v Speaker 2>thing because I love sweet things too. I am really
<v Speaker 2>into banana pudding because I never had it until we
<v Speaker 2>made it like a month or so ago, and it's
<v Speaker 2>so good. Then we made it again for Christmas, and
<v Speaker 2>so we probably can't make it for like a little bit. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I love break, I love frosting. Sorry, now I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>now I'm thinking about sweet things that I'm thinking it's
<v Speaker 2>almost my birthday, and I think by the time this
<v Speaker 2>comes out, it will be like basically my birthday. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know, my birthday is February ninth, Okay, so if
<v Speaker 2>it's already past, sorry guys, but I don't think so.
<v Speaker 2>I think it's gonna be like almost my birthday when
<v Speaker 2>this comes out. So all I told my wife I
<v Speaker 2>want for my birthday is one of those cute, like
<v Speaker 2>heart shaped, like vintagey cakes, and I want it to
<v Speaker 2>be pink. And then I like to have chocolate cake.
<v Speaker 2>I love chocolate cake with buttercream frosting, like I fucking
<v Speaker 2>love frosting. And there's another reason that me and my
<v Speaker 2>wife are a perfect pair because she doesn't really like
<v Speaker 2>frosting and I don't like cake that much. So like
<v Speaker 2>we get a piece of cake and then I get
<v Speaker 2>so much frosting, and I get her extra frosting, and
<v Speaker 2>then she can have my extra cake part. So I
<v Speaker 2>just like the frosting.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like the olive theory thing right, where it's
<v Speaker 1>like when one person loves olives and the other one
<v Speaker 1>hates it, and it's like.
<v Speaker 2>She does hate olives, but I've never heard this scary.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was like, oh, they hate olives. I love olives.
<v Speaker 1>So like when we go out, I get the olives.
<v Speaker 2>Oh. Like also, I don't know if there's the thing,
<v Speaker 2>but I'm thinking like when you get a sandwich and
<v Speaker 2>it comes with a pickle on the side, Yeah, and
<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, this is great because I like pickles,
<v Speaker 2>but now I like them. My tastebuds change and now
<v Speaker 2>I'm a pickle girl. I feel like snooky, Like I'm like, wow, I.
<v Speaker 1>Just love Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, food is good. Point is, I can't really think
<v Speaker 2>a favorite thing, but pizza has been like my top
<v Speaker 2>thing for a long time. So I'm gonna get a
<v Speaker 2>pizza tattoo eventually because of Oh okay, I just don't
<v Speaker 2>have one yet. Okay, So do you have a hot
<v Speaker 2>take or a burning desire for this movie?
<v Speaker 1>I really wish that they were together in this movie,
<v Speaker 1>like there was I wish that they had shown it
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more. But I feel like it was
<v Speaker 1>a very big movie, very mainstream, like.
<v Speaker 2>You said, had Kathy Bits in it, which she's a
<v Speaker 2>big deal always.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so I can see why they were like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>we can't go so far with like the lesbians. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>we only can give them a little bit into It's
<v Speaker 1>just the the saphic subtext, and that's enough for nineteen
<v Speaker 1>ninety one exactly. So that's what I wish that there
<v Speaker 1>were more scenes with them. What about you?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have so many thoughts because I really fucking
<v Speaker 2>love this movie and I really love the book, and uh,
<v Speaker 2>something that I want to say that's not really a
<v Speaker 2>hot take, but I just was thinking about it the
<v Speaker 2>other day, and I think it's really important. I think
<v Speaker 2>this needs to be remade as a mini series now,
<v Speaker 2>and it would be so because they did that with
<v Speaker 2>a league of their own, and unfortunately, because homophobia, it
<v Speaker 2>only got one season even though it was really fucking good.
<v Speaker 2>But oh my god, Roberta, Yes, I love her. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>she could be in this, she could. But yeah, I
<v Speaker 2>think that it needs to be made into like a
<v Speaker 2>like a mini series or potentially an ongoing series, because
<v Speaker 2>the thing is, this story spans so many like decades,
<v Speaker 2>so really like, you could make this go on for
<v Speaker 2>a lot of seasons.
<v Speaker 1>Everyday person in this series playing the old versions, and
<v Speaker 1>we need to.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that Tello makes shows. They only make
<v Speaker 2>my but I'm like, will you reach out to you
<v Speaker 2>should give them this creck I know. I'm like, I'll
<v Speaker 2>write it for you. Own everything. Stop I've ever read
<v Speaker 2>anything like it?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>True, I'm an expert on igy and yeah, okay, So
<v Speaker 2>that was something I just wanted to say, but I
<v Speaker 2>wanted to also say that I love it. This movie
<v Speaker 2>centers on the importance of why am I want to
<v Speaker 2>cry again? I love that it focuses on the importance
<v Speaker 2>of love, whether it's romantic or friend love, because they
<v Speaker 2>chose to show them as like best friends in this
<v Speaker 2>but they had this really special connection. But also they
<v Speaker 2>show this very special emotional connection between Evelyn and Ninny.
<v Speaker 2>So in the like eighties part, not in the twenties
<v Speaker 2>and thirties part, there's this very cool intergenerational friendship with
<v Speaker 2>like a woman that is like in her forties and
<v Speaker 2>a woman that is in like her eighties, and then
<v Speaker 2>they're like best friends and she like they help.
<v Speaker 1>Her, like she helps find herself. Yes, I love it,
<v Speaker 1>so okay, but I also think about the Saran reps.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I know, Okay, that was funny too.
<v Speaker 2>I think I did write about it in my Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>The other thing that I really want to talk about
<v Speaker 2>because I think this is like a commonly misunderstood or
<v Speaker 2>potential for misunderstanding, and I think they did it on purpose,
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's stupid in my opinion. Did you
<v Speaker 2>feel like they were trying to tell us that maybe
<v Speaker 2>Ninny is a g at.
<v Speaker 1>The end, Yeah, that's what I thought.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but in the book she's totally different person. So
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was stupid that they did that. They
<v Speaker 2>make it like maybe we'll see her again and then
<v Speaker 2>she's like yeah, and like it makes it seem like
<v Speaker 2>she's her And I looked it up and many people
<v Speaker 2>took it that way. Yeah, but I don't think that
<v Speaker 2>the like, I don't think it was meant to I
<v Speaker 2>think it was meant to leave like a mystery, like,
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, is she itgy? But like in the book,
<v Speaker 2>she's a completely different person. They do give you an
<v Speaker 2>update on Igy and she's like selling things on the
<v Speaker 2>side of the road at like a farm stand and
<v Speaker 2>she's still butcher as fuck, and like they have a
<v Speaker 2>totally different thing. So I like that they made sure
<v Speaker 2>you knew that Igy was alive at the end, because
<v Speaker 2>even in the book, she like lives a long time. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but Ninni is actually the sister in law.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know what ceevil. I didn't read the book,
<v Speaker 1>so I know that's why when I hit for the movie,
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Oh, I like that they did that,
<v Speaker 1>like making it seem that that is her, you know,
<v Speaker 1>she's like retelling the story. But I also like the
<v Speaker 1>book version.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, well, because that's how I took it when
<v Speaker 2>I had only seen the movie. I took it especially
<v Speaker 2>because there's a part where they show in Ninni's nursing
<v Speaker 2>home room she has a lot of pictures of the
<v Speaker 2>people she talks about, and she has a big framed
<v Speaker 2>picture of Ruth. So I was like, yeah, because that's
<v Speaker 2>her wife. And so I feel like they I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>I just don't get why they did that. And I
<v Speaker 2>know that Fanny Flagg, who is the author, who was
<v Speaker 2>a part of the screenwriting, so I maybe she was sure.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they were like, this will draw more people in
<v Speaker 2>if there's like, oh wait at the end, like does
<v Speaker 2>that mean this? I don't know. I just thought it
<v Speaker 2>was weird. AnyWho, those are a lot of thoughts that
<v Speaker 2>I have. I don't know if any of them are interesting,
<v Speaker 2>but they are to me. So I am super excited
<v Speaker 2>to go on our little breaky and then come back
<v Speaker 2>and talk about it. So we will take our little break,
<v Speaker 2>we'll come back for the recap. Try not to text
<v Speaker 2>your ex situationship while work.
<v Speaker 1>On Welcome back to but I'm a Lesbian. This week
<v Speaker 1>we are discussing fried green tomatoes, Brought to you by Kaitlin.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, I'm so excited I almost burped in my
<v Speaker 2>own excitement. I was like when we were silent burp.
<v Speaker 2>Sorry if anyone could hear it. Okay, So we're watching
<v Speaker 2>the movie. We opened on an old car being pulled
<v Speaker 2>out of a body of water and it looks very
<v Speaker 2>I really, I really like the word old because I
<v Speaker 2>said it again. I was like, it's an old car
<v Speaker 2>and it looks very old and rusty. And then we
<v Speaker 2>see train tracks, and then we see this town that
<v Speaker 2>looks like a ghost town. It's like abandoned and overgrown,
<v Speaker 2>and we see a man at a payphone there, and
<v Speaker 2>I really wanted to ask you if have you ever
<v Speaker 2>used a payphone?
<v Speaker 1>Yes, when I was younger, really yeah, because my parents
<v Speaker 1>obviously are older, so they always used it and they
<v Speaker 1>had always talked about it, and I was like, oh
<v Speaker 1>my god, I want to try using one. And then
<v Speaker 1>they were like, well they look really fucking dirty now,
<v Speaker 1>but they were like sure, And I remember my mom
<v Speaker 1>was like, all right, go ahead. She didn't actually let
<v Speaker 1>me make a call, but I pretended that I was
<v Speaker 1>making a call, but she just wiped it down because
<v Speaker 1>the one that we use was at the seven eleven
<v Speaker 1>and it was really nasty. And then I was like,
<v Speaker 1>oh my god. And then yeah, she's like, no, we're
<v Speaker 1>not wasting money. I'm that actual we'll call. But I
<v Speaker 1>got to use it, and I pretended that I was
<v Speaker 1>calling my friend. Oh, I was like so cute, And
<v Speaker 1>what about you.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've used a lot of payphon you're not, okay,
<v Speaker 2>But I was in the era of payphones.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>So first of all, something I want to talk about
<v Speaker 2>about payphones is there was this movie that I used
<v Speaker 2>to be obsessed with called Phone Booth that started calling
<v Speaker 2>Ferrell in a phone booth you see. I don't know
<v Speaker 2>they have I don't think so two thousand and two
<v Speaker 2>to two thousand and fourish, I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>It isn't really like a hero in this like someone's
<v Speaker 1>calling him about like this threat and he's like in
<v Speaker 1>the find like.
<v Speaker 2>He's like a regular guy, I think, but he like
<v Speaker 2>answers the phone and then the person's like, I'm a
<v Speaker 2>sniper and I have this at you. Okay, I think
<v Speaker 2>I have. Okay, okay, so something else. I like that movie.
<v Speaker 2>And I used to be really obsessed with Colin Farrell
<v Speaker 2>when I was younger, and I'm pretty sure he's queer,
<v Speaker 2>isn't he? Like I think that hasn't he said, Well,
<v Speaker 2>maybe he's like what's the guy with the cute, little
<v Speaker 2>messed up teeth, the one from the Venom? What's his name? Because,
<v Speaker 2>oh my.
<v Speaker 1>God, no, I know his name? Hold on, I know
<v Speaker 1>his name. What's his name?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know? I loves him? Is it Tom? No?
<v Speaker 1>What's his name? Oh my god? He said he was.
<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, who hasn't had.
<v Speaker 2>Of course I've had gay sex's name? I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>but I he Charlie Ferrell makes me think of because
<v Speaker 2>I thought Colin Ferrell said something similar, like where he's like,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe I made it up, but I
<v Speaker 2>did see a movie that Colin Farrell was in in
<v Speaker 2>the early two thousands where he was like, sort of it, Charlie,
<v Speaker 2>he like his name, friend, I want to say, I
<v Speaker 2>keep thinking Tom Hardy.
<v Speaker 1>It's Tom Hollward, Thank you guy.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yes, Tom Hardy. Okay, Tom holds spider like I
<v Speaker 2>don't know. Okay, Okay, did we talk about how I
<v Speaker 2>get Tom Holland and Josh Hutcherson confused?
<v Speaker 1>That's funny, but they kind of.
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm all three of them confused because okay, anyway.
<v Speaker 1>No, Colin Farrell isn't gay. We're being back.
<v Speaker 2>Oh well it's Tom Hardy, says. Tom Hardy is open
<v Speaker 2>to experiences. I think as a true actor.
<v Speaker 1>Oh he's an ally. We love that. Yes, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Oh you know what else I really like about Colin
<v Speaker 2>Farrell is that he has been like very a very
<v Speaker 2>big advocate for autism because he has an autistic son,
<v Speaker 2>and I just think he seems like a good dad.
<v Speaker 2>Like why I can't stop crying? Okay, So anyway, so
<v Speaker 2>then the man is at the payphone and he's calling
<v Speaker 2>someone and his wife, who is Kathy Bates. Her character's
<v Speaker 2>name is Evel, and Couch is sitting in the car
<v Speaker 2>and she's looking at the abandoned town and there's a
<v Speaker 2>restaurant there called the Whistlestop Cafe. So she's like, look,
<v Speaker 2>you not it, and then she watched She's just like
<v Speaker 2>hanging out and then we hear like a train go by,
<v Speaker 2>and then we realized that they were lost trying to
<v Speaker 2>get to the husband's aunt's nursing home. So they ended
<v Speaker 2>up in this like ghost town basically, and he was
<v Speaker 2>probably calling for like directions because back in the day
<v Speaker 2>you didn't even have map Quest, we didn't have GPS,
<v Speaker 2>so you had a regular call and then no cell
<v Speaker 2>phones for sure. Yeah, and he's like kind of like
<v Speaker 2>annoyed at Evelyn. He's like, you told me to turn
<v Speaker 2>right when blah blah blah blah blah.
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, oh, who's driving, sir.
<v Speaker 2>I know you are. You're the one that got us
<v Speaker 2>lost her. And so then they get they get to
<v Speaker 2>the nursing home and the aunt kicks Evelyn out of
<v Speaker 2>the room. She does not like her, and so the
<v Speaker 2>husband is like, well, you just go to the waiting
<v Speaker 2>room while I hang out with my aunt, I guess,
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, okay, whatever. So she goes to the
<v Speaker 2>waiting room and she meets this nice old lady that
<v Speaker 2>lives there, and the lady just starts talking to her
<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere, and I love it. And this is
<v Speaker 2>me as an old person starts randomly is like I
<v Speaker 2>had my gollbladder taken out?
<v Speaker 1>Did you know?
<v Speaker 2>Like do you want to have you had your globladder?
<v Speaker 2>Ta telling her all this personal stuff and I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>I love this woman. So we find out that she
<v Speaker 2>is Missus thread Good or Ninny thread Good, and she's like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>I'm just visiting here, like I'm just here for like
<v Speaker 2>my friend that lives here, so I'm staying here for her.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, okay, but like you're also really old,
<v Speaker 2>you probably kind of do my long yeah.
<v Speaker 1>But she's telling herself that yes, yeah, but you know,
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't really seem to have like dementia like a
<v Speaker 1>lot of like I thought at the beginning, I was like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't know what's going on.
<v Speaker 2>Because I've worked at nursing homes and a lot of
<v Speaker 2>people think.
<v Speaker 1>They say that they say yeah, it's like no, you've.
<v Speaker 2>Lived here for like five years, like they just don't
<v Speaker 2>remember or they don't want to think it, which is
<v Speaker 2>another sad thing that's gonna make me cry. And so
<v Speaker 2>she's like, yeah, hi, new friend, Evelyn. Did you know
<v Speaker 2>I'm from this town called whistle Stop And have you
<v Speaker 2>ever been there? And she's like, oh my god, I
<v Speaker 2>think I was just there, like I got lost, like
<v Speaker 2>we were like passing through there, and she's like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>have you ever heard of itgy threadgood? She like wants
<v Speaker 2>to tell her the tales. She's like, yeah, she was
<v Speaker 2>my sister in law, I was married to her brother,
<v Speaker 2>and she ran the whistle Stop cafe with her friend
<v Speaker 2>Ruth friend in quotation mark she doesn't do that, but
<v Speaker 2>it was more than her friend, like her friend, her
<v Speaker 2>special friend. And so then she's like, yeah, I don't
<v Speaker 2>know how anyone that could have believed that Igi killed
<v Speaker 2>that man. That's crazy what? And so she's like drawn
<v Speaker 2>in because I feel like at first she's like, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>this lady's just gonna keep talking to me, and then
<v Speaker 2>she's like a murder mystery, like I am locked in,
<v Speaker 2>And so then we kind of go back in time
<v Speaker 2>because obvious Ninny is telling the story, but we're like
<v Speaker 2>seeing it, like act it out, you know. And so
<v Speaker 2>we're now back in time in like the teens, the
<v Speaker 2>nineteen teens, and we see that one of the thread
<v Speaker 2>Good's sisters is getting married and she's whining because Iggy,
<v Speaker 2>who was like a kid at the time, doesn't want
<v Speaker 2>to wear a dress. So we already know that Iggy
<v Speaker 2>is like kind of like tomboyish, because that's literally the
<v Speaker 2>beginning of what we're told about her. She doesn't want
<v Speaker 2>to wear a dress. She runs into the treehouse and
<v Speaker 2>takes off the dress because I think some of the
<v Speaker 2>brothers laughed at her, which on or whatever. And then
<v Speaker 2>her big brother Buddy like has to talk her down
<v Speaker 2>because he's like her like special, Like there's a lot
<v Speaker 2>of siblings, but they have this special bond like ya. Basically,
<v Speaker 2>what it seems like is that like she really looked
<v Speaker 2>up to him, like she wants to be just like him.
<v Speaker 2>So he was like a teenager, and she was like,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know ten maybe I can't really tell. And
<v Speaker 2>so he tells her this story about oysters, and I said,
<v Speaker 2>that is very lesbian. Oysters are less yeah, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>did you see Ratchet, Yeah, the Nurse Rochester scenes, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that was I mean, and tipping the velvet. The one
<v Speaker 2>girl is an oyster shocker. Also obviously we could see
<v Speaker 2>what an oyster kind of looks like. And then it
<v Speaker 2>has like a perlink of your highlighter. Oh yeah, I
<v Speaker 2>guess that's like an oyster. So anyway, point being, I
<v Speaker 2>thought it was funny that that's the story she chose
<v Speaker 2>to tell. And then it g says God may have
<v Speaker 2>made a mistake, and I think she is hinting at
<v Speaker 2>that she if this was now, she would have maybe
<v Speaker 2>been like non binary or trance, because she's saying that,
<v Speaker 2>like she doesn't want to do these things that she
<v Speaker 2>has to do because she's a girl, and she thinks
<v Speaker 2>God made a mistake, and he's like, God doesn't make mistakes.
<v Speaker 2>But I thought that was interesting. And so then she
<v Speaker 2>ends up going to the wedding in a cute little suit,
<v Speaker 2>so I think it's so sweet that they're like, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>you can wear this little suit. And then we see
<v Speaker 2>Buddy and Igy playing and we learned that he is
<v Speaker 2>in love with Ruth, who is played by Mary Louis Parker.
<v Speaker 2>Mary Louis Parker, who is from Weeds. I mean, she
<v Speaker 2>is so beautiful.
<v Speaker 1>I thought you're gonna say something bad about her. I
<v Speaker 1>was like, no, what does she do?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know anything about her. She's very I think
<v Speaker 2>she's but she is a really big ally because she
<v Speaker 2>was also in this mini series Angels in America, which
<v Speaker 2>was I don't know if you saw. It was about
<v Speaker 2>AIDS and like the epidemic. From what I know, I
<v Speaker 2>know she's yeah, but I did really like Weeds. That's
<v Speaker 2>what I knew her from. And so we see all
<v Speaker 2>three of them go on this little walk in this
<v Speaker 2>like I don't know what you would call it. It's
<v Speaker 2>like a like a levy area a water there's like
<v Speaker 2>a waterfall, but it's not like a natural waterfall. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know. They're going in a walk
<v Speaker 2>on a walk and then igy Ruth's hand and so
<v Speaker 2>that's like, okay, she like likes her, but does she
<v Speaker 2>like her as like she's gonna be my sister in
<v Speaker 2>law because my brother loves it. Whatever. Then we see
<v Speaker 2>Ruth and Buddy making out, but her hat flies off
<v Speaker 2>in the wind because she had one of those big
<v Speaker 2>nineteen tens type of hats, and so Buddy is like
<v Speaker 2>being a gentleman, so he goes to get her hat
<v Speaker 2>on the train tracks and then he gets hit by
<v Speaker 2>a train and dies. So what the fuck? So it's
<v Speaker 2>so fucking sad.
<v Speaker 1>It's cute, semi gay, and then tragedy, Yes.
<v Speaker 2>It's so sad. So I was like, yes, everyone is
<v Speaker 2>very sad, especially a g And then we go to
<v Speaker 2>the funeral and we see Aggy running or running through
<v Speaker 2>the trees being emo, and then she nemo and then
<v Speaker 2>she starts camping out by the river. She's like, I
<v Speaker 2>won't live in my house anymore. I live down by
<v Speaker 2>the river because my brother died and I'm sad. And
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't let anybody talk to her except for Big George,
<v Speaker 2>who is a friend of the family. I think that
<v Speaker 2>he kind of works for them because they're not like
<v Speaker 2>a rich white family. But this is also like Alabama
<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen tens, and I think that something we
<v Speaker 2>see later is that Igy is not racist. But it's
<v Speaker 2>kind of a big deal that she's not racist because
<v Speaker 2>it seems like everybody else is. Yeah, anyway, that big
<v Speaker 2>tracks right, Yeah, and so Big George is the only
<v Speaker 2>person that she will like talk to basically, and Sipsy
<v Speaker 2>is another character we will see. She is big George's mom,
<v Speaker 2>so she's another character that is like a big part
<v Speaker 2>of the family. And Evelyn's husband. Okay, we're back in
<v Speaker 2>regular time because it gets interrupted because Ed, Evelyn's husband
<v Speaker 2>comes in is like, we need to go, and so
<v Speaker 2>she's like, okay, but I want to come back and
<v Speaker 2>visit you name. So that's sweet. And then we moved
<v Speaker 2>to seeing Evelyn at like a woman's group of some sort.
<v Speaker 2>So just so you know, I don't think I specified,
<v Speaker 2>but like it's in like nineteen like mid to late eighties,
<v Speaker 2>in the time where Kathy bates Evely couches and then
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're going back to the teens and stuff,
<v Speaker 2>but it's in the eighties, it's not like present day.
<v Speaker 2>And so we see Evelyn's at a women's group and
<v Speaker 2>someone is teaching them about how to put the spark
<v Speaker 2>back in their marriage, and she's imagining herself making a
<v Speaker 2>fancy meal for Ed and wrapping herself up in a dress,
<v Speaker 2>like a saran wrap dress and trying to look sexy
<v Speaker 2>for him. Then she like opens the door and he's like,
<v Speaker 2>are you crazy, blah blah blah, and so she doesn't
<v Speaker 2>do that, but that totally is the same reaction that
<v Speaker 2>he would have, which is sad. And instead of actually
<v Speaker 2>doing the cellifon thing that night, she just makes him
<v Speaker 2>dinner and brings him beers, but he just takes it
<v Speaker 2>to the living room. So she like made dinner and
<v Speaker 2>like put it on the table, like wanted to like
<v Speaker 2>hang out with him and bring the spark back, but
<v Speaker 2>he just wants to go watch sports in the living
<v Speaker 2>room and eat his food, and he kind of like
<v Speaker 2>ignores her. That's sad. We see that she is like
<v Speaker 2>very sad. I don't know that they necessarily mention it,
<v Speaker 2>but she does have like an adult son, I think son,
<v Speaker 2>adult child that has moved out, so that's also I
<v Speaker 2>think something that is weighing on her, Like now the
<v Speaker 2>kid has grown and they are growing apart, and so
<v Speaker 2>they kind of mention it a little bit later. But
<v Speaker 2>so then the next week they go back to visit
<v Speaker 2>the ant and of course the aunt is like, I
<v Speaker 2>don't want you in here, you bitch, and like knock
<v Speaker 2>knocks knocks her out. She kicks her out of the room,
<v Speaker 2>and so she's like whatever, I'm gonna hang out with
<v Speaker 2>my friend, Missus Threadgood anyway. So she goes to the
<v Speaker 2>waiting room and Missus Threadgood slash Ninny starts talking about
<v Speaker 2>how much she misses home and she misses having fried
<v Speaker 2>green tomatoes at the Whistlestop Cafe. And then we go
<v Speaker 2>back in time again and we see grown up i
<v Speaker 2>Gy visiting her brother's grave. So I think she's a
<v Speaker 2>grown up, but I think she's like seventeen, Like she's like,
<v Speaker 2>that's grown up for me. Yeah, it's like I think
<v Speaker 2>she I don't think that many years passed, you know
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. But it's like she's like a teenage
<v Speaker 2>she's or a very young adult. I don't know, so
<v Speaker 2>we can tell you know, she never got over buddy dying,
<v Speaker 2>and she lived by the river for years. At some
<v Speaker 2>point her mom sent for her, like can you get
<v Speaker 2>asked Big George or somebody like can you tell Igy
<v Speaker 2>to come up to the house. So she goes up
<v Speaker 2>and on the way she meets this asshole named Frank
<v Speaker 2>Bennett and he hits on her and she's not having it.
<v Speaker 2>He asks like what her name is and she says
<v Speaker 2>it's Towanda. So she doesn't want to tell her real name.
<v Speaker 2>And then she finds out that Ruth is staying that summer.
<v Speaker 2>So Ruth is staying. She's gonna like teach Bible school
<v Speaker 2>or something to the kids, but she's staying there for
<v Speaker 2>the summer because Ruth was from out of town. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>And so Ruth is back, and so Ruth comes out
<v Speaker 2>and says hi to Igy, but it just like walks away.
<v Speaker 2>And so then Big George drives Ruth to the river
<v Speaker 2>Club where Iggy hangs out with. In the book, there's
<v Speaker 2>this like sexy redhead that I think they kind of
<v Speaker 2>have in the movie, but she has like short, like
<v Speaker 2>fingerwave hair. She was fucking Buddy and Igy. She's fucking everybody.
<v Speaker 2>So I just want you to know that it was
<v Speaker 2>pretty clear they said something in the book like she
<v Speaker 2>comforted Igy the same way she would comfort Buddy, and
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, yeah, okay. So anyway, so the
<v Speaker 2>river Club is kind of a scandalous place. People be drinking,
<v Speaker 2>they're doing sex stuff, they're gambling. So this is not
<v Speaker 2>a place for like this church lady Ruth to be.
<v Speaker 2>But she's going there because she's like, I need to
<v Speaker 2>go get Itgy because her mom basically had her come
<v Speaker 2>to town to like try to get Igy to be
<v Speaker 2>part of the family again. And so she tries to
<v Speaker 2>force Iggy to come home for dinner and then uh
<v Speaker 2>she she like gets on the car and she gets
<v Speaker 2>out of the car. Whatever, it's dramatic. She doesn't she
<v Speaker 2>doesn't come. Ruth loves church and Igy doesn't. And we
<v Speaker 2>see this when I think it's like the next day
<v Speaker 2>or a few days later, Igy Ruth is at church
<v Speaker 2>and Igy rides by in like the back of a
<v Speaker 2>truck and they're like heckling the preacher and like just
<v Speaker 2>like yelling while he's preaching. And then later that day,
<v Speaker 2>Ruth goes to find Igy while she's fishing, and she's like,
<v Speaker 2>please give me a chance to get to know you.
<v Speaker 2>And she's like, okay, fine, let's go hop on trains.
<v Speaker 2>That's what I like to do. And so they get
<v Speaker 2>into a train car and it starts moving and Ruth
<v Speaker 2>seems scared but like also kind of excited, like I
<v Speaker 2>don't know, She's like, so she's a good actress, like
<v Speaker 2>the way when people I feel like I can always
<v Speaker 2>tell when people are like a good actor because you
<v Speaker 2>can read their emotions with their face, which is also
<v Speaker 2>goes back to how maybe actors shouldn't get so much
<v Speaker 2>botox and stuff because then they can't move their face
<v Speaker 2>as well, and you can't tell the emotion, you know,
<v Speaker 2>but you can tell the emotion right, Like she's like scared,
<v Speaker 2>but also like am I turned on? What do I? Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>And so she's really good at acting. Okay, So then
<v Speaker 2>they we see Iggy throw food out to the people
<v Speaker 2>that lived like intense by the tracks. So basically she's
<v Speaker 2>like Robin Hood stealing from the rich. I mean, whoever
<v Speaker 2>can order all this food whatever companies and giving to
<v Speaker 2>the poor. And then Ruth at first says something like oh,
<v Speaker 2>that's not your food to give or whatever, and she's like,
<v Speaker 2>I thought you want to help people like you're you know,
<v Speaker 2>Jesus person. So then she starts throwing food to the people. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and she looks like she's having so much fun right
<v Speaker 2>because she's like, oh my god, I really like can
<v Speaker 2>help people and I can see them like being so
<v Speaker 2>happy directly. And then Igy is like, okay, time to
<v Speaker 2>jump off, and Ruth is like, what the fuck you
<v Speaker 2>want to jump? And she's like, what did she say?
<v Speaker 2>She said something like you're never gonna jump or something,
<v Speaker 2>and then Ruth is like never say never to me,
<v Speaker 2>and she jumps and then she's like oh shit, So
<v Speaker 2>then Agy has to jump out and then she like
<v Speaker 2>hurts her ankle jumping out, and Ruth like helps her
<v Speaker 2>walk two miles to the doctor because she's like, you
<v Speaker 2>have to go to a doctor, and she's like, the
<v Speaker 2>closest one is two miles and she's like, well, it's
<v Speaker 2>actually kind of yes, I mean, especially well at first
<v Speaker 2>she was like, you're you gonna carry me and she's like, no,
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna walk yourself. She like puts her arm around her,
<v Speaker 2>like you can't do with a drunk person, and it's like,
<v Speaker 2>you know, like we're gonna walk there. And so then
<v Speaker 2>another day we see Iggy stealing car keys from one
<v Speaker 2>of the other brothers and taking Ruth on a date.
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's it's a date. They go to a
<v Speaker 2>picnic together, a romantical picnic, and she took the keys
<v Speaker 2>from her brother so nobody else can be there, you know,
<v Speaker 2>it's the private picnic. And then Igy goes to a
<v Speaker 2>tree that is like covered in bees and reaches her
<v Speaker 2>hand in and gets fresh honey for Ruth, and Ruth
<v Speaker 2>is very impressed, but like also scared, and honestly, I
<v Speaker 2>think she was like, oh my god.
<v Speaker 1>She was like so hot.
<v Speaker 2>Why do I feel this way? Like I feel a
<v Speaker 2>little tingly and so uh she is like you're just
<v Speaker 2>a beech harm it you thread good? Yeah? You love okay,
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, it's so flirty. There's a lot
<v Speaker 2>of that lesbian eye contract. And then she tries to
<v Speaker 2>get the honey like out with her fingers, which is
<v Speaker 2>also very gay, and they're like dipping in your fingers
<v Speaker 2>in the honey jar. I don't know, think, Yeah, it
<v Speaker 2>was so lesbian. And then we see them go to
<v Speaker 2>the river club after and they look so cute like
<v Speaker 2>a little couple, and ig has her arm around Ruth,
<v Speaker 2>and then later that night they go swimming in the
<v Speaker 2>river in their undergarments and then yes, and then Ruth
<v Speaker 2>tells Iggy that she's getting married when the summer ends.
<v Speaker 2>Andy's so sad married, Yeah, so that's really sad. And
<v Speaker 2>then she kisses Iggy's cheek and just like goes back
<v Speaker 2>in the wor and then we like kind of moved forward,
<v Speaker 2>like a lot. We see that Ruth moved to Georgia
<v Speaker 2>and got married. She invited Igy, but Itgy didn't come,
<v Speaker 2>but they do show Igy like watched from afar as
<v Speaker 2>like her husband took her into her new house, like
<v Speaker 2>carried her over the threshold and stuff, and it's like,
<v Speaker 2>that's so sad because obviously she loved her and she
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be the one to marry her and carry
<v Speaker 2>her over the threshold into their house. And it's so
<v Speaker 2>sad because she had to watch this stupid man do it,
<v Speaker 2>and we then find out is terrible, terrible man. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So then we go back to the eighties, so we're
<v Speaker 2>in the future ish now again and we see Evelyn
<v Speaker 2>is at a women's group where they are all gonna
<v Speaker 2>look at their vaginas with mirror.
<v Speaker 1>I remember that scene so vividly. I was like, what
<v Speaker 1>are they doing? And I was like, well, She's like
<v Speaker 1>they're looking at themselves. You know, it's something that women
<v Speaker 1>can do.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, oh, yeah, I definitely I read it
<v Speaker 2>not with other people, but I like went in the bathroom.
<v Speaker 1>When I was telling my mom, I was like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>they do it together, like it's a group thing.
<v Speaker 2>She was like, yes, maybe I would like I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>I think I remember asking her have you done that?
<v Speaker 1>She's like, all right, let's watch the movie. Like I
<v Speaker 1>thought there was something that like you do as an adult.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It's so funny when you're a kid and you
<v Speaker 2>see things because you're like, oh, just all adults do that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was past.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, so I have to do that when
<v Speaker 1>I get older too, you.
<v Speaker 2>Have to okay, And then I said you did that, well,
<v Speaker 2>yeah I did it. I went in the bathroom by
<v Speaker 2>myself and I got my mom's like like a bigger
<v Speaker 2>hand mirror because I was like, well, now I'm interested.
<v Speaker 2>I guess that's true. I don't really know what it
<v Speaker 2>looks like because you can't really see it like yourself,
<v Speaker 2>like I mean, I mean, I guess if you're like
<v Speaker 2>really flexible.
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, yeah, so.
<v Speaker 2>I remember doing that, and I was like, I remember
<v Speaker 2>my mom would say. I remember my mom saying this,
<v Speaker 2>which I think is something that people were taught, but
<v Speaker 2>like she would say like that vaginas are so ugly
<v Speaker 2>and she thinks that it's so gross. And I was like,
<v Speaker 2>so I remember having that idea of that it should
<v Speaker 2>be ugly and gross, and I was like, why is
<v Speaker 2>this part of me ugly? Like what is did you
<v Speaker 2>think it was ugly when you first saw it? Or
<v Speaker 2>like it was weird? Because I was like I had
<v Speaker 2>no idea what it looked like down there because I
<v Speaker 2>could only see like the front part, and so I
<v Speaker 2>was like, you're wild. I was like what this is crazy?
<v Speaker 2>And I was really little because I didn't have hair yet,
<v Speaker 2>like I remember okay, I either watched the movie with
<v Speaker 2>my mom or I read it, but it was I
<v Speaker 2>remember it being like wow, very little, like I don't
<v Speaker 2>know anyway. So they are like, she seems freaked out.
<v Speaker 2>Evelyn is like freaked out by it? Oh yeah, would
<v Speaker 2>you do this with a group of friends? I put
<v Speaker 2>another question, Well.
<v Speaker 1>I guess it jumped the gun with that. Sorry, that
<v Speaker 1>is something very empowering to do, especially I think a
<v Speaker 1>lot of the women in the class had never done
<v Speaker 1>that before, right, yes, And they were probably like so
<v Speaker 1>they were like, wells and stuff, Yeah exactly, and so
<v Speaker 1>they were like, Okay, it's time to take a look
<v Speaker 1>down there, like what does she look like? There's also
<v Speaker 1>a video two of like friends see each other's vaginas
<v Speaker 1>for the first time or something. Oh it was it
<v Speaker 1>was like a cut video and they were like doing
<v Speaker 1>it and everyone was.
<v Speaker 2>Like, oh my gosh, she's cute, Like what you know,
<v Speaker 2>it is so funny. Yeah, okay, I've seen those videos
<v Speaker 2>of like friends seeing each other's yes for the first time,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, okay, like that's cute. Yeah, I don't
<v Speaker 2>know that is so funny though, because Okay, something I've
<v Speaker 2>been seeing like the last few like months or years
<v Speaker 2>on TikTok is people being like, is it bubble gum pink?
<v Speaker 2>I bet it's bubble gum pink? Have you seen this?
<v Speaker 2>This is like happening.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>It's giving racist to me, Like not everybody's vagina is yes,
<v Speaker 2>And why would that be like the best the thing
<v Speaker 2>that everyone should be aspiring to. That's really weird. I
<v Speaker 2>didn't like that anyway. I said, I love my vagina,
<v Speaker 2>but I think I would feel awkward with a bunch
<v Speaker 2>of people around in a room.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it has to be strangers.
<v Speaker 2>And then you're like, but I just was my vagina.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm like gonna ask waw like because
<v Speaker 2>I know she would never do it, but if I
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm gonna go to my women's club and
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna all just sit. I feel like she would
<v Speaker 2>be like, that's weird. Babes don't do that. It's like,
<v Speaker 2>I don't think.
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what she would say. So anyway, they're
<v Speaker 2>like she's seeming awkward, and somebody says like, what do
<v Speaker 2>you have, like a problem with your vagina and she's like, no,
<v Speaker 2>I have a problem with my girdle because it's like
<v Speaker 2>she had like and so she leaves, and she goes
<v Speaker 2>home and she makes at dinner, and he goes to
<v Speaker 2>the TV again and she tells him she wants to
<v Speaker 2>go on vacation, like to where they went when they
<v Speaker 2>were younger, on their honeymoon or something, and he's like
<v Speaker 2>not very receptive. So it's like this is just another
<v Speaker 2>example of we're seeing that she is like feeling kind
<v Speaker 2>of sad and disrespected, basically like he's not paying any
<v Speaker 2>attention to her. Then we see another day she goes
<v Speaker 2>to the nursing home and Ninnie has purple hair now,
<v Speaker 2>which is so cute, and she's like, yeah, I don't
<v Speaker 2>know this little bitty thing from the beauty college.
<v Speaker 1>Did it well?
<v Speaker 2>She do a good job. And so then uh, Evelyn
<v Speaker 2>can like basically not contain herself. She's like, I need
<v Speaker 2>to learn more about Igy. Can you tell me more
<v Speaker 2>about it? G's and Nannie is very excited to tell her.
<v Speaker 2>So then we go back in time and we see
<v Speaker 2>that Iggy went to Valdosta, Georgia, which is where Ruth was.
<v Speaker 2>She went there after a few years of Ruth being
<v Speaker 2>married to check in on Ruth, and she drove to
<v Speaker 2>the house and knocked on her door and Ruth's mom
<v Speaker 2>is living there. Ruth's mom answers the door and she
<v Speaker 2>she's like, who are you And she's like, well, just
<v Speaker 2>tell her. Bee Charmer from Alabama is here. And I
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my god, it's so cute and flirty.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know anyway, And so his mom is like, Ruth,
<v Speaker 2>some bee person is here. And then Ruth comes to
<v Speaker 2>the door and she keeps trying to hide her black eye. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>she's only looking at her from like the side. It's like,
<v Speaker 2>oh hey, yeah, and she totally notices it and she's like,
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck did he hit you? I'm gonna kill him?
<v Speaker 2>And Ruth is like, if you care about me, just leave,
<v Speaker 2>like she doesn't want her to get involved. Yeah, and
<v Speaker 2>she's really upset, but she leaves. And then Frank runs
<v Speaker 2>down from the upstairs, I guess, and he's just being
<v Speaker 2>a hater as she drives away. I don't remember what
<v Speaker 2>he said, but I said he was being a hater.
<v Speaker 2>He might have just looked at her hatefully, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>And then that night, I she's at the River Club
<v Speaker 2>and she's talking to her friend Grady, who obviously has
<v Speaker 2>a crush on her, and he is a cop, and
<v Speaker 2>he tries to get her to dance with him, and
<v Speaker 2>she's like, ew, no, what the fuck? And then he
<v Speaker 2>picked her up and spun her around. And I didn't
<v Speaker 2>like that. I was like, he did not have consent. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like at the time it was like,
<v Speaker 2>oh haha, that's so cute and funny. I'm like, you
<v Speaker 2>can't pick people up just because she's a woman. Okay.
<v Speaker 2>So then a little bit later, a letter comes from
<v Speaker 2>Ruth to Iggy's family. It's a clip out from the
<v Speaker 2>newspaper of her Ruth's mom's obituary, and okay, Ruth put
<v Speaker 2>like a little quote from the Bible in there, and
<v Speaker 2>it says, whether thou goest, I will go, whether thou lodgest,
<v Speaker 2>I will lodge, thy people shall be my people. So
<v Speaker 2>it's like she's asking Igy to come save her, and
<v Speaker 2>it's like okay. So it's like okay, yeah, she wants
<v Speaker 2>me to don't worry, I will go.
<v Speaker 1>Get my woman.
<v Speaker 2>So then she pulls up to the house in Valdosta
<v Speaker 2>with one of her brothers and Big George and she
<v Speaker 2>goes into the house to get Ruth, and Ruth is like,
<v Speaker 2>I'm pregnant, and I'm like, this reminds me of disobedience,
<v Speaker 2>I know. And so Iggy and the guys are moving
<v Speaker 2>all the stuff into the car, and then Frank gets
<v Speaker 2>home while this is happening, which is really bad because
<v Speaker 2>we know he's abusive because she had a black eye, right,
<v Speaker 2>and then he grabs Ruth and he starts hitting her,
<v Speaker 2>and Igy jumps on him and is like hitting him,
<v Speaker 2>and then I think he like does the thing where
<v Speaker 2>he like runs into the wall so cause she's on
<v Speaker 2>his back trying to hit him, and now they're both
<v Speaker 2>fighting him, and he picks Ruth upstairs, or he picks
<v Speaker 2>her up and takes her upstairs but then the guys
<v Speaker 2>come in and threaten him and they say that Big
<v Speaker 2>George is crazy and Big George has a knife, so yeah, okay,
<v Speaker 2>so he since he saw that Big George is like
<v Speaker 2>really big, that's why his name is Big George and
<v Speaker 2>he has a knife, he's like scared. So he puts
<v Speaker 2>Ruth down and acts like he's gonna let her go,
<v Speaker 2>but then he kicks her down the stairs and he's
<v Speaker 2>such a fucking day. Oh so sad. Also, he knows
<v Speaker 2>she's pregnant, so I feel like he's a fright like
<v Speaker 2>Miss Carrie because he doesn't care about her child really,
<v Speaker 2>he just wants her to be sad. Yeah, And it
<v Speaker 2>tells Frank that if he ever touches Ruth again, she
<v Speaker 2>will kill him. And then we're back in the eighties
<v Speaker 2>and Evelyn is at the store with her friend and
<v Speaker 2>she's like, I'm not going to go to a women's
<v Speaker 2>group anymore. And then a teenager runs in front of
<v Speaker 2>her for no reason and it is like screw you.
<v Speaker 2>And then she follows him and is like why, I
<v Speaker 2>mean route to me and he's like whatever, you old cow,
<v Speaker 2>you old bitch. Yeah, he calls her fat cow and
<v Speaker 2>an old bitch, and then he drives away and then
<v Speaker 2>her grocery bag rips and it's raining, all stuff's on
<v Speaker 2>the ground, and she's like really upset, and then she
<v Speaker 2>goes to see Nanny and she's like, I'm just feeling
<v Speaker 2>like so useless and powerless and I literally like can't
<v Speaker 2>stop eating, like I'm getting like so fat, which is
<v Speaker 2>also like when we talked about diet culture in the
<v Speaker 2>other episode. It's also very like she's like she wants
<v Speaker 2>you over like her way, and they're making a point
<v Speaker 2>also something I thought that person was like in the book.
<v Speaker 2>In the book Missus Threadgood, Ninny was like big, like
<v Speaker 2>she was like tall and like chunky, and so I
<v Speaker 2>thought it was funny that they picked kind of like
<v Speaker 2>like a skinny little I was at the point where
<v Speaker 2>she was also like the bigger anyway. So she's like,
<v Speaker 2>Ninny's like, girl, I'm pretty sure you're going through menopausea.
<v Speaker 2>That's why you're feeling all these emotions, like you need
<v Speaker 2>to go to the doctor and tell them to put
<v Speaker 2>you on hormones and don't feel better. He's like, I
<v Speaker 2>was like having a lot of problems when I went
<v Speaker 2>through the change too, and so she's like, oh uh.
<v Speaker 2>And then Ninni tells her when I was about your age,
<v Speaker 2>I had my child and then I went through menopause
<v Speaker 2>right after. So we're like, oh, we didn't know she
<v Speaker 2>had a child, and also we didn't now we know
<v Speaker 2>she had a child at like an older age. And
<v Speaker 2>she said that he had special needs. His name was Albert,
<v Speaker 2>and the doctor said, you probably should just put him
<v Speaker 2>into an institution because he's going to be a lot
<v Speaker 2>of work. And she was like, he was the joy
<v Speaker 2>of my life and he lived for thirty years and
<v Speaker 2>like she can't wait to get to Heaven to see
<v Speaker 2>him again.
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, god's so sad, genuinely.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this slit in my skirt is being a little
<v Speaker 2>crazy right now. Okay, So then we go back in time.
<v Speaker 2>We see Ruth just had the baby, and Igy like
<v Speaker 2>runs out of the room where she was having the
<v Speaker 2>baby at the house and is like it's a boy,
<v Speaker 2>and Inji and all her friends are cheering. That's so proud. Oh,
<v Speaker 2>I was like, dad, I was like, she smokes a cigar.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, such a dad right now. She's like,
<v Speaker 2>oh my daddy stuffed dogs. Yes, And so they named
<v Speaker 2>the baby Buddy Junior, which is so sweet, and then
<v Speaker 2>Igy and Ruth open the cafe if they opened the
<v Speaker 2>whistle Stop Cafe with help from Iggy's dad, and then
<v Speaker 2>Grady tells Iggy, you shouldn't be selling food or giving
<v Speaker 2>food to black people. By the way.
<v Speaker 1>People are being mad.
<v Speaker 2>People in the clan are getting mad, and she's like,
<v Speaker 2>I do whatever I want and I love her. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>don't know what to do.
<v Speaker 1>Fuck you.
<v Speaker 2>And she also is like, also, if all you boys
<v Speaker 2>in the KKK don't want people to know who you are,
<v Speaker 2>why do you always wear the same shoes so I
<v Speaker 2>know who you are. Basically, she's like calls him out.
<v Speaker 2>She's like, she's like, we're not stupid, So.
<v Speaker 1>That makes sense that he's a cop, because almost all
<v Speaker 1>cops are Nazis.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, yeah they're bad. So Big George then is like, well, Igy,
<v Speaker 2>like I don't want you to get in trouble, like
<v Speaker 2>for having us like work here and like giving food
<v Speaker 2>to us and the other people, because like, I don't
<v Speaker 2>I don't want you to get in trouble. And she's like,
<v Speaker 2>not worried. But the thing is she probably should be
<v Speaker 2>worried because it's most likely going to affect the black
<v Speaker 2>people that she is trying to help more than it's
<v Speaker 2>going to affect her, because those people are racist, and
<v Speaker 2>they might they might be mean to her and Ruth,
<v Speaker 2>but they're white women. They're going to be like probably
<v Speaker 2>beating the shit out of or killing people like Big
<v Speaker 2>George and like his family. So but I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>she's not thinking about that. She's like, they're gonna leave
<v Speaker 2>me alone because I called Grady out. And then we
<v Speaker 2>see Iggy and Ruth feeding a homeless man named Smokey,
<v Speaker 2>So I just think that they're showing us that they
<v Speaker 2>love everybody. He is an alcoholic and he's like shaking
<v Speaker 2>and because he's going through withdrawals, and Igy gives him
<v Speaker 2>whiskey and they become friends. And Ruth is watching them
<v Speaker 2>talking out the way, know, like watching Itchy and Smoky talking,
<v Speaker 2>and she just she just has like so much love
<v Speaker 2>in her eyes when she's watching her, And I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>why is she such a good action. She's amazing with
<v Speaker 2>so much love and admoration, Like wow, I love that
<v Speaker 2>she just makes friends with everybody and she cares about everybody,
<v Speaker 2>you know, And then she lets him sleep in one
<v Speaker 2>of their like little outside building that they have, and
<v Speaker 2>Ruth comes and brings them a blanket, and then we
<v Speaker 2>go to the sex scene of the movie, which is
<v Speaker 2>this food fight scene. The director said that this was
<v Speaker 2>supposed to kind of be like the sex scene, the
<v Speaker 2>love scene, because they couldn't do that at the time,
<v Speaker 2>so they wanted to show their intimacy and like their
<v Speaker 2>like playfulness and whatever with like this food fight scene.
<v Speaker 2>So we see Ruth and Igy in the kitchen and
<v Speaker 2>they get like, okay. First, Igy feeds some of the
<v Speaker 2>fried green tomatoes she made to Ruth, and Ruth is like, also,
<v Speaker 2>like not very good. He messed up. And then they
<v Speaker 2>get into a food fight and they're like smearing things
<v Speaker 2>on each other's faces and I don't know, it's just
<v Speaker 2>very sexual. So they did a good job making this
<v Speaker 2>be the like love scene, because I felt like it
<v Speaker 2>felt like there was like sexual attension, Like I was like,
<v Speaker 2>when are they gonna kiss? Start the Yeah, they were
<v Speaker 2>like and then they're like kind of rolling on the
<v Speaker 2>floor at some point, like playing, and it's very cute.
<v Speaker 2>And I said, they're very good actresses because the scene
<v Speaker 2>is so intimate and sensual and fun and I love it.
<v Speaker 2>And then in the front of the restaurant, Grady hears
<v Speaker 2>them playing and is like being a hater. And then
<v Speaker 2>he comes back there and it's like, stop having so
<v Speaker 2>much fun. And then Ruth puts frosting on his face
<v Speaker 2>so they don't take this guy seriously out of here. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and then outside we see Frank Bennett watching the cafe
<v Speaker 2>and watching Big George chopping wood and he's being a hater,
<v Speaker 2>so we're like, okay, he knows where they are. He
<v Speaker 2>came to whistle Stop and he's watching them. Yeah. And
<v Speaker 2>then that night the KKK comes to and one of
<v Speaker 2>them comes in to the house and asks for the baby,
<v Speaker 2>and it's obviously Frank, and Sipsy is there and she
<v Speaker 2>tries to protect Ruth and the baby with the broom,
<v Speaker 2>so she's like holding the broom like I'm gonna hit
<v Speaker 2>you with the broom or something, and then he takes
<v Speaker 2>it from her, and then Smoky, the unhoused man comes
<v Speaker 2>in and Frank leaves because men only respect other men,
<v Speaker 2>so that was like obvious he was gonna boss these
<v Speaker 2>two women around and take the baby or whatever. But
<v Speaker 2>now that there's a man there, he's he's like, oh God,
<v Speaker 2>the ba back or whatever. I think he says something
<v Speaker 2>like that, but he leaves and then he yeah, he
<v Speaker 2>tells Ruth he'll be back and he's gonna take her
<v Speaker 2>and the baby back with him. And then we see
<v Speaker 2>that the KKK got Big George and they're whipping him,
<v Speaker 2>which is like, fucking Big George. Knew this was gonna happen, Iggy. Anyway,
<v Speaker 2>then we see them come and break windows at the cafe,
<v Speaker 2>and Iggy runs out to help George, and then Grady
<v Speaker 2>tells them, tells the KKK to let Big George be
<v Speaker 2>free and they should listen to him because he's the
<v Speaker 2>law around here and you boys aren't from here. So
<v Speaker 2>this is like the clan from a different town or something.
<v Speaker 2>So it's probably the clan from Georgia because Frank wanted
<v Speaker 2>to like come over there and whatever. And so anyway,
<v Speaker 2>Igy gets home and Ruth tells her that Frank came
<v Speaker 2>in and saw Buddy and it. She's like, don't worry,
<v Speaker 2>he won't come back and if he does, we'll take
<v Speaker 2>care of it. And so like a lot of time
<v Speaker 2>goes by. It feels like it's like months later, we
<v Speaker 2>see the Town Follies, which is a performance with Iggy
<v Speaker 2>and Grady and drag. And I like that they were
<v Speaker 2>both in drag because people have been doing drag forever
<v Speaker 2>and then people now want to be like, oh, dragon
<v Speaker 2>are happening and it's like a moral and it's like
<v Speaker 2>it's literally been happening for so long exactly, like so weird.
<v Speaker 2>And so while they are performing, Frank shows up to
<v Speaker 2>the cafe with a gun and sees Sipsy with the baby,
<v Speaker 2>and and I said, Igy looks so hot and drag,
<v Speaker 2>So that's what I think. Anyway, Big George tells her
<v Speaker 2>she needs to get to the cat quick, and before
<v Speaker 2>she can get there, Frank hits Tipsy with the gun
<v Speaker 2>and steals the baby, and Smokey stops him and knocks
<v Speaker 2>him out, but Igy and George or someone's secret hit
<v Speaker 2>him with a shovel. So we just see that Frank
<v Speaker 2>gets hit with a shovel, yea, and then we see
<v Speaker 2>Big George making meet the next day. I was like, this,
<v Speaker 2>you always thought that that was that they made him into,
<v Speaker 2>like they did, I.
<v Speaker 1>Know, but what I'm saying like, yeah, but I just
<v Speaker 1>thought that, Like when they show the next scene like
<v Speaker 1>you can tell that that's what, like, I literally happened.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like yeah, but I remember watching it.
<v Speaker 2>I was just like what happened?
<v Speaker 1>And I was like think about it, like I think
<v Speaker 1>about it, and I'm like, they wouldn't do that.
<v Speaker 2>She's like, yes, I mean he was a bad person exactly.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's so smart. They'll never know.
<v Speaker 2>So I literally, bro, this is definitely human meat, and
<v Speaker 2>it is very smart because they will never find a
<v Speaker 2>body because all the townspeople ate it.
<v Speaker 1>Can imagine that days You're like, this tastes really different,
<v Speaker 1>but I have heard.
<v Speaker 2>That humans taste like pork, So that is why it's
<v Speaker 2>perfect that they were making like oh, it's hog boil
<v Speaker 2>season or whatever, because nobody they're like, wow, this is
<v Speaker 2>the best barbecue pork singing saey I've ever had. So
<v Speaker 2>I guess it makes sense. So anyway, at the cafe,
<v Speaker 2>two cops from Baldosta, Georgia come in looking for Frank
<v Speaker 2>and Ruth is like, Okay, that's my husband, but I
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen him in months, and Grady tries to defend
<v Speaker 2>him by being like, aren't you guys all gay in Georgia?
<v Speaker 2>Like he says something weirdly homophobic, and I'm like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>RADI Rady, what side are you on? I know, I'm
<v Speaker 2>like he thinks he's being helpful by like I'm gonna
<v Speaker 2>insult them by like being like, are you guys gay?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he's just so weird, but whatever.
<v Speaker 2>Then everybody's eating barbecue. One of the detectives eight barbecue.
<v Speaker 2>One of the detectives is trying to be all tough
<v Speaker 2>with Iggy and he's like, I know you threatened to
<v Speaker 2>kill Frank Bennett before, and she doesn't say anything, and
<v Speaker 2>I said, it's funny because he's literally eating him while
<v Speaker 2>he is. Then he goes and is being evil and racist.
<v Speaker 2>At Big George and Sipsy's house, he's like threatening that
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna hang Big George. I think they're like. I
<v Speaker 2>think he's like, I know that you are trying to
<v Speaker 2>cover for Igy and you're the one that's gonna die
<v Speaker 2>for this. At the cafe, Ruth and Iggy are talking
<v Speaker 2>and Ruth questions Iggy about where she's been. She tells
<v Speaker 2>Iggy that maybe she should leave whistle Stop, like maybe
<v Speaker 2>I should move on because like I'm bringing a lot
<v Speaker 2>of drama and danger to you guys. And she's like no,
<v Speaker 2>oh my god. She's like, don't leave. I'm obsessed with you.
<v Speaker 2>She won't tell Ruth where she was because she doesn't
<v Speaker 2>want Ruth to be implicated in a crime, probably, so
<v Speaker 2>she's just quiet about it. And Ruth gives this long
<v Speaker 2>monologue and is basically like, I would kill Frank if
<v Speaker 2>he ever came around. And she's like, well, you don't
<v Speaker 2>have to worry about him anymore. And she's like you
<v Speaker 2>killed him, didn't you. And she's like no, and Ruth
<v Speaker 2>just like leaves it at that, because who fucking cares
<v Speaker 2>if she did or not, Like he's a bad person.
<v Speaker 2>And back in the eighties, Ruth goes to the grocery store.
<v Speaker 2>Some little bitches steel her parking spot. She confronts them
<v Speaker 2>and they're like whatever, we're like young and hot, and
<v Speaker 2>then she like rams their car multiple times and I
<v Speaker 2>love it. And then like they're like, oh my god,
<v Speaker 2>and she's like I'm older and have better insurance. I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>I love her, And so then she goes she's trying
<v Speaker 2>to make healthy food. She's like working out. She's calling
<v Speaker 2>herself to Wanda the Avenger that is her like new
<v Speaker 2>alter ego because of the Geese alter ego whatever, and
<v Speaker 2>she's trying to make healthy food for herself and Ed,
<v Speaker 2>and Ed is like being an asshole about it. It's like, whatever,
<v Speaker 2>he could, he could be healthy too. He's probably a
<v Speaker 2>hart tech. He's like older and he he's really unhealthy things.
<v Speaker 2>Then she goes to visit Ninni again and she brought
<v Speaker 2>her healthy food because before she was bringing candy every time.
<v Speaker 2>And she's like, I need you to tell more about
<v Speaker 2>the story about Agent. And so then we were all
<v Speaker 2>back to the thirties and five years have passed since
<v Speaker 2>Frank Bennett disappeared or whatever, and that one Georgia detective
<v Speaker 2>still comes and visits and is like obsessed with trying
<v Speaker 2>to find it. It's like, oh my god, move on.
<v Speaker 2>And Smokey's back in town. He like goes he travels
<v Speaker 2>on the trains, right, so sometimes he's there, sometimes he's not.
<v Speaker 2>I guess he's back in town during that time. And
<v Speaker 2>Ruth is teaching kids to read or like reading to them,
<v Speaker 2>so she's like so sweet, right, And then Buddy Junior
<v Speaker 2>is running around having fun on the train tracks and
<v Speaker 2>then he gets hit by.
<v Speaker 3>Fucking train and he would think they learned that Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>got hit by a train, but luckily he didn't die,
<v Speaker 3>He only lost his arm and they had a funeral
<v Speaker 3>for his arm.
<v Speaker 2>And then she starts calling him Stump and Ruth is like,
<v Speaker 2>that's really mean, and she's like, no, you have to, like,
<v Speaker 2>you know, give him the nickname before other people make
<v Speaker 2>fun of him, like yeah, which also makes me think
<v Speaker 2>of like Mexican nicknames like let me find your biggest insecurity,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm it's so sad. I could never have too
<v Speaker 2>thin of skin. I would be like, why are you
<v Speaker 2>calling me chunky all the time? So mean? Okay, So anyway,
<v Speaker 2>later that month it rained so much it flooded whistle
<v Speaker 2>Stop and they found Frank's truck because it was like
<v Speaker 2>in the river or whatever. And then we see the
<v Speaker 2>beginning part where the old car that was Frank's truck
<v Speaker 2>it's being pulled out of the river and Grady comes
<v Speaker 2>to talk to Igy in private, and he tells her like,
<v Speaker 2>I have to ar rescue and Big George for murder,
<v Speaker 2>but I wouldn't mind if you ran away in the night,
<v Speaker 2>Like I could do it in the morning and you
<v Speaker 2>guys could just happen to not be here, like you know.
<v Speaker 2>But basically George wouldn't be able to get away, so
<v Speaker 2>she would have to be agreeing to let George take
<v Speaker 2>the blame for her, and she's not going to do
<v Speaker 2>that because she's not a shitty person. And so Iggy
<v Speaker 2>and Big George end up in the Valdosta County jail
<v Speaker 2>and then they go to trial for murder, and when
<v Speaker 2>Ruth is on the stand, they ask why she left
<v Speaker 2>with Igy when she was pregnant, and she said, because
<v Speaker 2>she's the best friend I've ever had and I love her.
<v Speaker 2>And then the whistlestop reverend ends up getting them off
<v Speaker 2>for the murder charges because he's like, oh, they were
<v Speaker 2>at this church revival. Igy and Big George were both
<v Speaker 2>there for multiple days and he likes more on a Bible,
<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't a Bible, dick, Yeah, so was their
<v Speaker 2>alibi in the U. And then back in the eighties,
<v Speaker 2>Evelyn is losing it. She's yelling to Wanda and breaking
<v Speaker 2>down a wall in her house and Ed is like,
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck, And then she confronts him about how
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't care about their marriage. All he cares about
<v Speaker 2>is watching TV, and then she goes and visits Ninny
<v Speaker 2>and meets missus Otis's daughter in law. So missus Otis
<v Speaker 2>was the friend that is also from whistle Stop that
<v Speaker 2>is living there. And she tells Evelyn like, uh, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of weird that Ninny told you she's gonna
<v Speaker 2>go back home to whistle Stop because her house really
<v Speaker 2>doesn't exist anymore, like it was demolished. So that's really sad.
<v Speaker 2>No one told her. They didn't want to tell her
<v Speaker 2>because they knew she would be too sad. So it's
<v Speaker 2>like she still has this like hope that she's going
<v Speaker 2>to go home, but she literally can't go home because
<v Speaker 2>the house doesn't exist. And then Evelyn goes in and
<v Speaker 2>she sees Nanni sleeping in the bed and she has
<v Speaker 2>framed pictures of Ruth and Igy and everyone from the stories,
<v Speaker 2>So that goes to back that I felt like they
<v Speaker 2>were trying to make us think that Nibi was Iggy,
<v Speaker 2>but she's not. And then it's Ninny's birthday and Evelyn
<v Speaker 2>made her fried green tomatoes and that's really sweet, and
<v Speaker 2>then she starts talking about how she can't believe she's
<v Speaker 2>eighty three. And then we go back in time and
<v Speaker 2>we find out that right after the trial, Oh god,
<v Speaker 2>Ruth gets sick and it ended up being cancer, and
<v Speaker 2>Sipsy took care of her, and Iggy kept hoping and
<v Speaker 2>praying for a miracle, and on her deathbed, Ruth asked
<v Speaker 2>Igy to make sure Buddy graduates and to not let
<v Speaker 2>him come to her funeral, and Igi just keeps being like,
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna be fine, You're gonna be fine, but it's
<v Speaker 2>like she knows she's dying, and they both know that's
<v Speaker 2>not the truth. Buddy comes to talk to his mom
<v Speaker 2>and give her a kiss, and she tells him not
<v Speaker 2>to be sad, and igy uh tells Buddy that his
<v Speaker 2>mom is an angel masquerading as a person, and it's
<v Speaker 2>so sweet. Clad I supposed to do this, Okay. Iggy
<v Speaker 2>and Ruth talk alone, and Ruth tells Iggy she should
<v Speaker 2>settle down if she can find someone after she passes,
<v Speaker 2>and I think that was kind of sort of I
<v Speaker 2>thought that was an interesting thing because I'm like, are
<v Speaker 2>they trying to be like they're just friends, she should
<v Speaker 2>marry a man, or are they trying to be like
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people where they're like, you're still young,
<v Speaker 2>like even though we're married, like I want you to
<v Speaker 2>find somebody else, like anyways. So then Ruth is like,
<v Speaker 2>tell me a story, and she's like, you know all
<v Speaker 2>those stories I tell her just lies. And she's like
<v Speaker 2>I know what tell me anyway, And so Igi is
<v Speaker 2>like telling her this like crazy story about the hell
<v Speaker 2>there used to be a lake and the it froze
<v Speaker 2>over and then birds flew away with it, like the
<v Speaker 2>silly story. And she's like walking away and looking out
<v Speaker 2>the window while she's telling the story, and Ruth passes
<v Speaker 2>away as she tells her the story, and then Agi
<v Speaker 2>cries a lot and it's so sad, and then we
<v Speaker 2>go to the funeral and everyone's crying and Smokey went
<v Speaker 2>to the funeral and they tell us how everyone that
<v Speaker 2>ever met Ruth was in love with her, including him.
<v Speaker 2>And then back in the eighties, Evelyn tells Ninny she's
<v Speaker 2>scared of death, and Ninni is like, there's nothing to
<v Speaker 2>be afraid of. And we see that Ed brought Evelyn flowers,
<v Speaker 2>which is sweet, and Evelyn is putting back the wall
<v Speaker 2>that she ripped down. I was like, yes, she was
<v Speaker 2>just in the same She's fine now, and she tells
<v Speaker 2>him that she wants Ninny to come live with them,
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, what the fuck. He's like, that's never
<v Speaker 2>gonna have and just forget about it. And she says,
<v Speaker 2>don't ever say never to me, which is like the
<v Speaker 2>thing that and she said to Ruth about and you're
<v Speaker 2>never going to jump out of there. And she leaves
<v Speaker 2>and goes to visit Ninni and sees that a nurse
<v Speaker 2>is taking all her stuff down and the nurse is like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>the lady that lives in this room died this morning.
<v Speaker 2>And she's like what the fuck. And she's like freaking
<v Speaker 2>out and crying, and then this other nurse comes in
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, no, her roommate died, missus Otis died.
<v Speaker 2>And so Ninnie checked herself out. She went back to
<v Speaker 2>Whistlestop because she's always said she was going to go
<v Speaker 2>back to whistle Stop. But then of course Evelyn is like, fuck,
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't know her house isn't there. So I gotta
<v Speaker 2>get to whistle Stop to like find her and tell
<v Speaker 2>her that I want her to live with me. And
<v Speaker 2>so Evelyn finds her sitting by herself on her suitcase
<v Speaker 2>in the little abandoned town and she's in front of
<v Speaker 2>where her old house was, and she's like, someone stole
<v Speaker 2>my house, so sad. And Evelyn's like, it's okay, no
<v Speaker 2>one stole it. They tore it down because it was
<v Speaker 2>condemned and I'm sorry I didn't tell you. And she's like,
<v Speaker 2>I'm sad because I don't have anyone to look after
<v Speaker 2>now that missus otis died, and I've always had someone
<v Speaker 2>to look after. And Evelyn says, please come and look
<v Speaker 2>after me and ed and she says, okay, I'll go,
<v Speaker 2>and then she tells her the true story of what
<v Speaker 2>happened the night Frank Bennett disappeared, which is she learned
<v Speaker 2>through Sipsy. Sipsy told Ninny the story, so then we
<v Speaker 2>kind of see it happen. We go back to the thirties.
<v Speaker 2>We see Frank get out of the car with the
<v Speaker 2>shotgun again, and we see that Sipsy is the one
<v Speaker 2>that hits him over the head and accidentally kills him.
<v Speaker 2>And then Iggy, Sipsy, Smoky, and Big George are the
<v Speaker 2>only people that know. And Igy was like, it's hog
<v Speaker 2>boiling season. You got to make some good barbecue. You
<v Speaker 2>make the best barbecue in town. And so then we
<v Speaker 2>basically confirmed that, right, And then we see that when
<v Speaker 2>the Georgia detective was eating, he tells Sipsy, this is
<v Speaker 2>the best barbecue I've ever had, and she says the
<v Speaker 2>secrets in the sauce. And then we go back forward,
<v Speaker 2>back forward. We go back to the eighties and Nanni
<v Speaker 2>tells Evelyn that the most important thing in life is friends,
<v Speaker 2>and then they see Ruth's gravestone and there's a note
<v Speaker 2>and a jar of honey that says, I'll always love
<v Speaker 2>you the beech Armer, so we know that Igy's still
<v Speaker 2>alive and also loved her in a gay way, yes,
<v Speaker 2>And then we hear Nanni explain that after Ruth died,
<v Speaker 2>the cafe shut down and everyone kind of scattered, and
<v Speaker 2>the cafe closing the cafe had been what held the
<v Speaker 2>town together all those years, and then we see Nannie
<v Speaker 2>and Evelyn heading back to the car, and that's how
<v Speaker 2>it ends. I guess I didn't tell you the part
<v Speaker 2>where because I think it's dumb. But after she finds
<v Speaker 2>the jar of honey, yeah, and it says it's from
<v Speaker 2>the beach Armer, Evelyn is like, I she's still alive
<v Speaker 2>and Nanni's like yeah, and she's like maybe will see
<v Speaker 2>or she's like sometimes we see her around or something
<v Speaker 2>like that, and she's like, maybe we'll see her today
<v Speaker 2>and then she like kind of like almost like winks
<v Speaker 2>and is like yeah, maybe. And that's why I feel
<v Speaker 2>like they were trying to make us think that she
<v Speaker 2>was itgy but but she's not. But I I just
<v Speaker 2>love lesbians, Like I know that there are straight people
<v Speaker 2>that would still come and visit the grave that often,
<v Speaker 2>but it just seems like such a gay thing to be,
<v Speaker 2>Like I just bring her honey all the time, and
<v Speaker 2>and no, you didn't after like how many years she
<v Speaker 2>died in like the thirties, so like fifty years later,
<v Speaker 2>she's still always going there.
<v Speaker 1>That's so sweet.
<v Speaker 2>Who anyway, So okay, I almost didn't do much merg
<v Speaker 2>murder because I was like, it's so sad. It's so
<v Speaker 2>sad because Ruth dies. But then I was like, well,
<v Speaker 2>you know she's live for like the majority of like them. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>So the options for munch merge murder are Igy, Ruth,
<v Speaker 2>and Evelyn. Yes, oh would you say?
<v Speaker 1>I feel like ours are going to be the same. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>probably I'm gonna merge with Igy, I'm gonna munch Ruth
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sorry Evelyn, I'm gonna murder you, I know,
<v Speaker 1>saying I.
<v Speaker 2>Know I felt bad for her, but she'll be happy
<v Speaker 2>with Ed. Okay, Yeah, she's okay, really straight. Oh yes,
<v Speaker 2>my god, okay, I saw this TikTok. I don't think
<v Speaker 2>I sent it to you. Someone sent it to me.
<v Speaker 2>That was like a lady talking about going to a
<v Speaker 2>nursing home and this old lady saying that's really inappropriate
<v Speaker 2>thing to her. Did you see this? No? Oh my god.
<v Speaker 2>The comments, the top comment was, ma'am, you met Iggy
<v Speaker 2>thread Goods. But the only one of us was She's
<v Speaker 2>like I walked in because I think she was like
<v Speaker 2>looking for a job at the nursing home or something,
<v Speaker 2>and there was like this little old lady like sitting
<v Speaker 2>up there, like knitting or something, and she started talking
<v Speaker 2>to her and she's like, now, are you married? And
<v Speaker 2>she's like yes, and she's like man or woman and
<v Speaker 2>she's like a man and she's like, oh, that's why
<v Speaker 2>you're fat. And she's like she's like what and she's
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, the women that marry men, they always get
<v Speaker 2>fat because men don't know how to suck the soul
<v Speaker 2>out of them. And she's like, what like and she's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>if it was you know, if I was your age,
<v Speaker 2>I was just like something like I was just like
<v Speaker 2>licking all the ladies and making them all come like crazy, Like.
<v Speaker 1>I God, that's been weird.
<v Speaker 2>Lady's like, oh, that's crazy.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.
<v Speaker 2>And then you talked to one of the nurses there
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, oh, are you married to a man?
<v Speaker 2>And she's like yeah. She's like she said the same
<v Speaker 2>thing to me and all the other nurses that are
<v Speaker 2>married to men. Oh my god, I love this lady.
<v Speaker 2>She's like, why would you marry a man?
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I thought it was so funny. But
<v Speaker 2>it was also extra funny that I happened to see
<v Speaker 2>it right before we were doing this episode.
<v Speaker 1>Like that was a g.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I yes, I would do the same thing.
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I feel bad for Evelyn, but she's straight,
<v Speaker 2>so it's fine. And we are going to rate this
<v Speaker 2>movie on a scale of one to five. I'm gonna five.
<v Speaker 1>I'm also gonna get a vibe.
<v Speaker 2>Five the board. It's so good. I love it. Okay,
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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back today, we are spilling some lukewarm lesbian an
<v Speaker 1>art literary lesbian segment.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yes, I to me, it was still like dramatic news,
<v Speaker 2>so hopefully it will be for you. But all this
<v Speaker 2>stuff happened in the seventies and eighties. A lot of
<v Speaker 2>people already know. I don't know, so okay. When I
<v Speaker 2>knew we were going to do this movie, I wanted
<v Speaker 2>to reread the book and I thought I remembered hearing
<v Speaker 2>that the author, Fanny Flagg, was a lesbian in real life,
<v Speaker 2>but I wanted to google it to make sure. So
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't like me saying Colin Farrell's gay and he's not,
<v Speaker 2>and so yes, Fanny flag is a lesbian and she's
<v Speaker 2>still alive. She's like in her eighties now. She is
<v Speaker 2>a Missus threadgood Age now. Anyway, So the book is
<v Speaker 2>called The Fragment Tomatoes at the whistle Stop Cafe. You
<v Speaker 2>should read it. So when I was looking her up
<v Speaker 2>just to find out if she was a lesbian, I
<v Speaker 2>found out some more interesting things. So basically I found
<v Speaker 2>out that she dated another famous author, Nita Rita may
<v Speaker 2>Brown in the seventies. And Rita may Brown has written
<v Speaker 2>many books, but the most famous is Ruby Fruit Jungle,
<v Speaker 2>which is very gay, and it was a really big
<v Speaker 2>deal when it came out because it came out in
<v Speaker 2>the seventies and she talked about having sex with men
<v Speaker 2>and women, but like that was dramatic in itself, but
<v Speaker 2>she also talked about liking having sex with woman more.
<v Speaker 2>And the ruby Fruit Jungle is like it's referenced in
<v Speaker 2>the book because I just finished the book, and she
<v Speaker 2>talks about like when she's having sex with a woman,
<v Speaker 2>with a woman, she likes to imagine it as like
<v Speaker 2>a ruby fruit jungle. Like there's so many I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>delicious fruits things. Okay, So she's like, I love China
<v Speaker 2>I love the vibe that I was getting anyway, So
<v Speaker 2>the reason I kept seeing things about Rita may Brown
<v Speaker 2>was because it said that they dated. But I also
<v Speaker 2>saw multiple articles that said that Rita outed Fanny, but
<v Speaker 2>I can't find anything that says how she outed her,
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if it's like because it was
<v Speaker 2>the seventies and she was seen with her a lot,
<v Speaker 2>and then people knew that Rita was a lesbian, so
<v Speaker 2>people just figured out that Fanny was a lesbian. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know. They lived together in the seventies, so they
<v Speaker 2>were more than roommates anyway, and Fanny has been out
<v Speaker 2>as a lesbian since that time, so like since the
<v Speaker 2>seventies when this got found out, So their relationship didn't
<v Speaker 2>last very long. I think they were together for like
<v Speaker 2>a few years in the seventies. And the book Ruby
<v Speaker 2>Fruit Jungle that Rita may wrote is based on her life,
<v Speaker 2>and she definitely had her share of lovers, including a
<v Speaker 2>love triangle with tennis star Martina Navratilova and a beauty
<v Speaker 2>queen named Judy Nelson. She was giving Shane a little
<v Speaker 2>bit and I told my wife that, and she's like, well,
<v Speaker 2>was she dgging them all? At the same time, and
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, no, you're right, she was just like
<v Speaker 2>a serial monogamy. But it feels like she was like
<v Speaker 2>she was like the hot like lesbian at a time.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, okay. So basically, so Martina is a
<v Speaker 2>famous tennis player, and Rita and Martina lived together from
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy nine to nineteen eighty one until Martina started
<v Speaker 2>dating Judy Nelson, who was married to a man and
<v Speaker 2>had kids with him in nineteen eighty three. And then
<v Speaker 2>Martina and Judy were together until nineteen ninety one and
<v Speaker 2>they had a very messy breakup, and then Rita May
<v Speaker 2>was friends with them all I guess, and Rita May
<v Speaker 2>told Judy you should try to get palomony and suggested
<v Speaker 2>that she pursue a palomony suit against Martina because Martina
<v Speaker 2>is like rich, she's famous, right, And palomony I looked
<v Speaker 2>it up, is like alimony, but it's for unmarried live
<v Speaker 2>in couples. So this was like a really big deal
<v Speaker 2>because this was nineteen ninety one and these were lesbians
<v Speaker 2>being like, I should get paid for this relationship. It
<v Speaker 2>is requiring the court to view a lesbian relationship as
<v Speaker 2>like a real relationship, which I mean sometimes people don't
<v Speaker 2>still don't view our relationships as real, you know. So
<v Speaker 2>it was a really big deal. And so Rita May
<v Speaker 2>ended up mediating the dispute and it settled in nineteen
<v Speaker 2>ninety two. So Martina did have to pay polomony to
<v Speaker 2>Judie Nelson. And during this time, Rita May moved in
<v Speaker 2>with Judy and they did. Yeah. I was like, giving
<v Speaker 2>the chart, yeah, And then Judy ended up writing a
<v Speaker 2>book about her relationships with Martina and Rita, and Rita
<v Speaker 2>wrote the intro. So I just don't yeah, literally, damn okay,
<v Speaker 2>that was scandalous. And so anyway, I said, shout out
<v Speaker 2>to lesbians who write novels in championships and emotionally devastate
<v Speaker 2>each other, thank you for your contributions to the LGBTQ community.
<v Speaker 1>What the hell?
<v Speaker 2>It was just it kept getting wilder. I was like,
<v Speaker 2>who's this person? Now they're dating, and so I don't
<v Speaker 2>know what's happened after that. But I also do know
<v Speaker 2>that Rita May Brown is also still alive, and she
<v Speaker 2>I think I think she's single right now. I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I didn't see a current partner, but
<v Speaker 2>maybe she's not making her things so public drama. But yeah,
<v Speaker 2>she's also like in her eighties. Okay, So now it's
<v Speaker 2>time for our super fun Newish segment we're doing. We're
<v Speaker 2>ending every episode with a little queer trivia, So yeah,
<v Speaker 2>do you want to pick one?
<v Speaker 1>Sure, let's see, I'll do middle one. Okay. Oh, when
<v Speaker 1>is National Coming Out Day in the United States? Is
<v Speaker 1>it A March eleventh, B, July eleventh, C October eleventh,
<v Speaker 1>D November eleventh?
<v Speaker 2>I forget that there's options, And I like that there's
<v Speaker 2>options because I knew the month, but I couldn't remember
<v Speaker 2>the day. So since there's options, it's October eleventh, you're correct.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I was wrong because I was like,
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty surely saw.
<v Speaker 1>You nodding your head when I read October eleventh.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, yeah, okay. So biographer Carl Sandberg described
<v Speaker 2>which US president's close relationship with Joshua fry Speed as
<v Speaker 2>having a streak of lavender. I will tell you the
<v Speaker 2>options A JFK B. John Adams can have tiktoks on this,
<v Speaker 2>Like John Adams, I know him, I don't know. Isn't
<v Speaker 2>that okay? Anyway see Franklin, D Roosevelt or d Abraham Lincoln.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, hmm, I'm just gonna take a guess. I'm gonna
<v Speaker 1>say JFK.
<v Speaker 2>No. But I think I've heard that he had a
<v Speaker 2>best friend that people think they were doing stuff but
<v Speaker 2>it's not.
<v Speaker 1>Who is it?
<v Speaker 2>Abraham Lincoln? Oh, Babraham Lincoln? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>But didn't?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, did I make this up? Don't people say that
<v Speaker 2>his wife was also kind of gay?
<v Speaker 1>So were they like.
<v Speaker 2>The like, maybe both? I don't know. Maybe I feel
<v Speaker 2>like she was one of the first ladies that I've
<v Speaker 2>heard was potentially gay. I don't know. I could have
<v Speaker 2>made it up. I think she had like mental health
<v Speaker 2>problems of some sort. But also at the time, being
<v Speaker 2>gay was like a mental health problem, so that was
<v Speaker 2>her mental health. To back my theory, I was like,
<v Speaker 2>oh she was gay, he was also gay? Okay, So
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<v Speaker 1>tragic lesbian bio biopic.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know you was gonna say biopsy. No, I
<v Speaker 2>was gonna stay biopsy. Do you say biopic? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>What do you say?
<v Speaker 2>I say biopic?
<v Speaker 1>Whatever?
<v Speaker 2>One?
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just like filo filo.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I was gonna say one probably British and one
<v Speaker 2>is American. I'm probably saying the British One's okay.
<v Speaker 1>You just want to be fancy. It's okay, like the
<v Speaker 1>Land of My People, it's gia. Yes, we love this film,
<v Speaker 1>so it is available on HBO Max.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so we will see you next Tuesday. Executive producers
<v Speaker 2>for But I'm a Lesbian are Caitlin Batty and Angelina Herrera.
<v Speaker 2>Produced and mixed by Victoria Shiplett. Creative direction and video
<v Speaker 2>editing provided by Juanita Herierte. Music by Stiletto Falsetto.
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