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Whether you were a baby, gay.

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and Angelina. Get ready for some Suffix serotonin. So today's

episode centers on the nineteen ninety nine drama Amy and Jaguar.

I don't know how they pronounce it in the movie

because it's in German. Because you know, when people have

a car, like some people call it jaguar and some

people call it a jaguar. Yeah, that's how I say it.

But I feel like that's not sophisticated. I feel like

if you're supposed to say jaguar.

Speaker 1: You are so each time. Yeah, thank god, that's not

their actual name in there. That's true, You're like, I'm

overthinking of the whole time.

Speaker 2: Also, it was Amy with a yeah, yeah, yeah, it's German.

The movie is German. I don't know if I said

that yet. I don't think I did. So this movie

focuses on a forbidden woola wah romance for those of

you that are not on TikTok and don't Speak Brain

rot w LW Woman Loving Woman romance in nineteen forties Germany,

and it is in German. We had to watch it

with subtitles unless you secretly know German.

Speaker 1: I do know German.

Speaker 2: No, it's like I don't. You're like, no, I know

how to say good morning. It's Guten Morgan.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: What else do I know?

Speaker 1: Oh? You know who?

Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed myself. There's this song Ramstein. Oh yeah, this

song is like do lost. Yeah, I can't remember what

it means though we looked up what it means and

I forgot. You're like, yeah, I think.

Speaker 1: I don't know, girl.

Speaker 2: Somebody can tell me in the comments anyway. Are you

a fan of foreign films?

Speaker 1: Yes, I do like foreign films. I think sometimes of course,

when it's like a historical piece, obviously, they usually are

a little bit longer, and sometimes I really like on

movies like this one. This one was like two hours. Yeah.

Speaker 2: My favorite movie of all time is Titanic.

Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're no stranger.

Speaker 2: In English? I do like I sound like a bumpkin America.

Speaker 3: I like.

Speaker 2: English.

Speaker 1: I can't understand any other do you like foreign films

or it depends, well I do, but.

Speaker 2: I also am like it makes me stay off my

phone because I was gonna ask about if you mind

reading subtitles. I don't really like reading subtitles because I

like to be on my phone while I'm watching things,

but I can't because I have to read it. So

like we used to watch drag Race Mexico and drag

Race Espania and drag Race Italia. I'm going about sickle

it because I had to read the subtitles all the time,

and like the Mexico one was fine because my wife

speaks Spanish, specifically Mexico Spanish. The Spain one, she was

also like, what the fuck are lady? I just likes

when we watched the UK or the Australia one and

I'm like, what is this weird? Slaying there using like

I know English, but I don't know what they were saying.

Yeah anyway, so no, I don't like to read it. Also,

I just found out that last means you hate or

you have.

Speaker 1: Oh.

Speaker 2: I feel like I remember us thinking it says you

have because I remember we would sing it like you

oh yeah, but I don't remember the next word. I

don't know AnyWho hast yeah, and I think there's.

Speaker 1: Another Like what else do I know in I know

more than this? I know, I forget. How do you

say thank you? Isn't it the same in like Dutch too,

It's like don key right? Oh oh, because there thank you?

Speaker 2: Next was like really popular we listened to, like listen

to and it was like donkanna next.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't remember next. They said, I'm.

Speaker 2: Probably offending all the German people. I have to tell

you that when I did my twenty three of meme.

Oh yes, I am like twenty five or thirty percent German.

So I'm offending my own people, mostly English and then

German and then Scandinavian.

Speaker 1: In case I'm curious, I am a blend of so many.

Speaker 2: White things like nothing not even like I don't have

like Southern European like no, no Italy, no Portugal.

Speaker 1: I am the whitest of white. I think I remember

you telling me that You're like no.

Speaker 2: Literally They were like, we updated it, we have more info,

and I was like cool, And it was just the

same info. It was just more descriptive. It was like

specifically like the area in England and the.

Speaker 1: Area it was just more specific.

Speaker 2: Anyway, it's not that interesting. Have you seen that meme

that's like my twenty three and me results and it's

like a picture of the cracker box and sorted cracker

me sam. Anyway, Also I found out through TikTok. I

don't know if this is true, but uh, you know,

to Talk has like weird trends that are basically all

body checking type of things.

Speaker 1: Yeah, but there was like a lot about.

Speaker 2: Noses that I've seen in the last year, and people

were talking about their German nose. I have a German nose.

According to TikTok. What my German nose?

Speaker 1: I don't know.

Speaker 2: It's like it has a bump on it and it's

like straight. It's not like it goes up, but it

doesn't fully go down either. It's not like super wide.

I don't know.

Speaker 1: It's like a big nose, but it's a big nose.

Speaker 2: I don't know in a specific way, because you know,

your nose could be like wide big, it could be

like bulbous big, it could be like a hook big

eyes just a German nose. I don't know.

Speaker 1: Okay, I think I missed that part.

Speaker 2: Oh, look up German noses and you'll be like, oh

my god, it's Kaitlin.

Speaker 1: I don't know, you're gonna have to send me that.

It's so interesting. AnyWho, who are we going to talk about?

Speaker 2: Oh? I got too excited talking about German things. Anyway, So.

Speaker 1: It doesn't bug you to read the subtitles, Uh No,

I like subtitles. Okay, Yeah, Okay, that's good. I think

maybe if I'm like not in the mood to like

pay attention to it, then I'll just put it on later.

But yeah, you do have to pay attention because you're

reading it. So yeah, yeah, that is hard.

Speaker 2: I like to read. I just when I want to watch.

I don't know. I also it's a it's a problem.

I don't know what it would be like to be

an iPad kid. Sometimes I feel like I am sort

of one, but obviously not the way that like my nieces,

because it's like iPads have been around since she was

born and she has like learned to like click on

things since she was like a baby and like watch

videos and blah blah blah, and she I don't think

she's as bad now, but like for a long time,

as like we would watch something, but she also had

to watch her tablet at the same time, and I'm like, bro,

you can't be happy just watching one thing.

Speaker 1: But it's like, no, she needed her I had.

Speaker 2: But that's how I feel like I am now because

I'm watching something but I'm also on my phone and

I'm like, what, welly, I can't. I used to be

so excited to like watch TV, and now I'm like, no,

I got to also be on my phone.

Speaker 1: It's stupid, and we just we've grown accustomed to it.

Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the attention span that oh yeah, we

have is it's not it's not long. That's why that's

why people scroll past videos unless you get a hook

in there, okay, because people is like, I'm gonna watch

this anyhow do you have a hot take or a

burning desire that you want to share about this movie?

Speaker 1: Okay, So at first I was gonna say I didn't

have one, just because this movie is so sad, but

I actually do have a burning desire. I wish that

they felice feliche feliche. They say it in German too,

so I feel like it's just.

Speaker 2: Like I'm so bad because I was so busy reading

I didn't listen to how they pronounced it. I was

saying police the whole time.

Speaker 1: Felice. I'm gonna say pellice with you. No, No, I'm

sad because if you heard them, because now I'm gonna

thinking about it. I wish that they ended up together.

Oh I that obviously, well, you know, I wanted them

to be together, but obviously, considering the circumstances like that

seemed impossible. But I wanted their story to be like

one in a million, kind of one in a million.

Speaker 2: Oh, miginality, Yeah, it's a made up song, I think

from Miss Congeniality. I don't think that our producer thinks

that song is you know.

Speaker 1: One in a million. Isn't that Aliyah?

Speaker 2: No, they don't sing it like that, but she but

they probably won a million.

Speaker 1: I always thought this they made it up like they did,

like their little remix on there.

Speaker 2: And mister Ginality, it goes one in a million once

in a lifetime.

Speaker 1: You made me discovera we're being because this.

Speaker 2: And they're all on the stage and they're like, yeah,

their outfits they're like bathing. I don't know. I love

Miss Congeniality. I just thought Analiah shirt at their store,

But I thought those were totally different songs.

Speaker 1: I don't know. I just thought that it was a

little remixing.

Speaker 2: I don't know they took inspiration from you know, yeah,

I mean they they probably did take inspiration, But I want,

I don't know.

Speaker 1: It's a real song.

Speaker 2: Oh, it's a real song, but it's not the Ilia song. Yeah. Well,

I thought it was a song just made for the movie.

But you know what other song is in that movie?

Which one that I know is a real song? But

I discovered it from the movie.

Speaker 1: Which one?

Speaker 2: It goes, she's got style, She's got great. Let me restart,

She's got style, She's got great.

Speaker 1: Well, you didn't think that was a no no?

Speaker 2: But then he says she's a weiena. Whoa, whoa, she's

a weena. And I always thought it was funny because

I'm like, why is he saying it, like wiener?

Speaker 1: Why is that the same song as the Mustang Sally song?

Speaker 2: Or is that a different song because that song's also

in it Mustard salad.

Speaker 1: No, that's a different song. Okay, No, But I thought, lady,

that was a real one. And then you know that

he said like his no, I knew that one was real.

I thought that one in a million was fake only.

Speaker 2: What's real?

Speaker 1: What's fake? We don't know. Also, that movie's so old now,

it's like as old as you. I think gen reality. Yes,

it's like two thousand or one in a million. Boston, Boston, Boston, Boston, No, Boston, Oh,

Boston one hit one because there's a band called Yeah.

Speaker 2: It's a very different vibe. I think Boston is like

something my dad would listen to. Okay, every time we

say I have to say it like that.

Speaker 1: Have you seen that one thing of people were there,

like when white people pronounce things like with the actual

like accent and like thing like how you said like

you like?

Speaker 2: So I was just going out to the cafe and

then I had a yeah, and then I know, I

know it's awkward. Okay, I want to tell you my

hot take.

Speaker 1: Yeah, what is your hot take?

Speaker 2: Uh? Lily is weird and vindictive, and it's wild to

me that she's still upset years and years later about

her girlfriend potentially cheating on her when she fucking spoiler

died and you're still upset about it all these years later.

Like I think, I think she's fucking weird. Like I

didn't like her. I don't like her first because she

was with the guy. She was also a Nazi. I'm like,

I don't like this bitch. And then I kept not

liking her because well, we'll see. But my hot take

is I don't like her, and it's she's weird.

Speaker 1: I can see that's I can see that. But I

feel like, you.

Speaker 2: Know, I don't know, I feel like I still want

to be together. I still I did still going.

Speaker 1: With them to be together, just because Phelice liked obviously

loved her, but I don't know we I I can

see where you're coming from. I just say, okay, you

don't have to No. I just think that that was

like her first love. So she was just like, how

could you cheat on me? Like how could you know?

But also that's like the most like that's what you're

worried about right now.

Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Also, Felice and her friends gave very much

like this like bohemian polyamorous time vibe, and because Lily

came from a very like straight lace, like you have

a husband and you're only with each other, like I

think she took that into the relationship, which is fine

to be monogamous. I'm monogamous, but I think that I

don't think that police really was, and I think there

was version in the relationship because I don't think you're

told her that.

Speaker 1: But then she was kind of like screwing around potentially

Elise Elise, which also is like our American way of

saying it, because they said her name is completely different.

Isn't it like ILSA something?

Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought I wrote it as I

L S E.

Speaker 1: I don't know, I L Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but I like that you changed it too, Elise.

Speaker 1: Well, I feel like Felise Elise.

Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I don't know, but I really Before we

talk more about it, I gotta say I think that

the actress that plays Felice is so beautiful. She this

goes to back my dark haired, dark eyes thing that

I said. She looks like actually.

Speaker 1: Jud and she beautiful. She does.

Speaker 4: Yeah.

Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, is she famous? And

then I was like, I mean she might be famous

in Germany. I've never seen her anything else, But I

was like, it's because she looks like Ashley Jed.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: AnyWho, is there anything else that you want to share

before we go to a little break, No, that's all

say something.

Speaker 1: You all say something else it I no, I don't

have any Do you say something in German? Say the break?

Speaker 2: I don't know. It's the language of my people, apparently,

but I well, you know what, the majority of me

is English, so I'm already speaking the language of my people.

I'm just speaking it with an American accent.

Speaker 1: That's true?

Speaker 2: Is it true that originally British people talked with this

accent American accent? And then when Americans came to America

and talk like that, they got mad, so they made

up an accent because I heard that, and I don't

know if that's true.

Speaker 1: I have no idea.

Speaker 2: If somebody tell me, if there are any historians or listen,

because I've been saying that and I realized I never factchecked.

Speaker 1: It is probably a made up thing. I don't know.

I want to say no, just like that's what. But

I'm going to be surprised if it is. When we're

done filming and we look this up and we're like, wow,

you look it up.

Speaker 2: Anyhow, We're gonna take a quick break and when we

get back we'll get into the recap. So practice your

German until we get back. Hopefully you know more than duhas.

Speaker 3: Do you So welcome back to But I'm a Lesbian.

Speaker 2: This week we are discussing Amy and Jaguar.

Speaker 1: Okay, so let me pull up my notes here. Okay.

So the film starts with two women and they seem

very happy. The blonde women is like taking pictures of

children and they just look like they're well her children.

Oh my god. That starts so bad your face. You're like, okay,

well she used to take pictures.

Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, oh my god, they look like a family.

Speaker 1: Yeah. And then fast forward we see like an open

house and there's an old woman sitting in the corner

and it is like, I'm just taking my photos. You

can burn the rest of this. So we get the

vibe that she's selling. That's her house and she's selling it. Yeah.

Speaker 2: I was like, oh, is she have to go to

a nursing home or something. Yeah, she seemed not happy.

Speaker 1: Yeah, she's just like whatever. Honestly, I wouldn't be happy

going to a nursing home either.

Speaker 2: Me either. But I also might have said this before.

If I ever diagnosed with Alzheimer's, I am going to

assisted suicide myself. Yeah, so that is a reason that

a lot of people end up in there. In nursing

homes is because they can't take care of themselves, like mentally,

probably if it's physically, I would do the same thing.

I don't know. I feel bad because I do have

a will to live. I have a zest for life.

Speaker 1: But if you if there's ever anyone that had a

zest for life, I did.

Speaker 2: Me and Taylor. We always say that about baby Sailor

when we take her on a walk.

Speaker 1: So I love your zest for life, sal because she's

just like she was so happy with you and like, yeah,

she's cute. Anyway.

Speaker 2: Sorry, I've made it more morbid. It's already going to

be a sad thing. And I'm like, well, I'm going

to assisted suicide myself when I'm old.

Speaker 1: That's what our brains do. When we think about sad things.

It comes up with even more sad things to make

you sad.

Speaker 2: Just be sad. Let's just yeah, when you're sad, so

you put on sad music so you can be more.

Speaker 1: Sad, wanting of everything sad that's ever happens to you. So, yeah,

she's going to a nursing home. They're taking her in

a taxi. She does not look happy, and I don't

blame her.

Speaker 2: Also, she's wait, did you write this part down about

the skirt?

Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the girl that's like the nurse aid whatever

that's taking her. She's like getting her luggage, the old

woman's luggage, into the car, and she's like bent over,

and she's obviously wearing a short skirt, and the old lady,

who we learned her name is missus Woost Woost, she's

like checking her butt out and she's like, nice skirt.

Speaker 3: I know.

Speaker 2: She was like, oh my god.

Speaker 1: She's just like come on, let's go. Like so the

aid is like oblivious to what's going on, but yeah,

that part I was.

Speaker 2: Like, okay, so she's gonna be one of the main characters,

but as an old person.

Speaker 1: Yeah, she's yeah, like if yeah, what a funny way.

Speaker 2: They're just like who wrote this? Was it? Women?

Speaker 1: Oh?

Speaker 2: I don't know, just because that seems like it makes

me think of I gotta keep going back to this.

In Honey, don't how Margaret was like modeling her character

that is a lesbian off of a man. It seems

like someone that doesn't understand lesbians would be like, oh yeah,

lesbians are always going to check you out.

Speaker 1: A girl that's bent over like.

Speaker 2: Like we just can't help, which is weird because I

would be like, oh, this is awkward. I don't want to.

Speaker 1: Accidentally, even though she's old, she's still got it in her.

Speaker 2: She's like, I stopped caring if people think I'm creepy

because I'm old.

Speaker 1: Now I'll just be like, oh she has dementia. She

doesn't know. She's just checking you out.

Speaker 2: She doesn't know.

Speaker 5: Anyway, sorry, because I was like, I was like, oh, okay,

so we learned her name is missus Woost and so

that aid that she was checking out earlier.

Speaker 1: Gets her settled into this like nursing place, and she's

like showing her room and she's like, oh my god,

you're gonna love it here. And missus Woss tries to

run away because she's like, fuck this, I don't want

to be here, and the nurse it's like obviously catches

up to her because she's a missus Wooz is old.

She can't It's sounds like I'm saying missus Woost, but

missus Woost is old, so she can't run that fast. Yeah,

And she's just like, oh, come on, it's not that bad.

So she brings her in and there's like a bunch

of people that are all old, they're all seniors looking

down at her, and she's like looking up and she

recognized someone and she's like, oh my gosh, Elise is

a you, which I'm saying your name is so wrong.

Speaker 2: Okay.

Speaker 1: She's like you yeah, yeah, and they stare at each

other and Alise does not say anything. She just kind

of looks at her, and missus Woos's is like WHOA,

Like you can tell obviously there's something there, but she's

just like bo. And so then we go back and

we are in nineteen forty three Nazi Germany, and we

see that Elise used to work for missus Woos. Her

name is Lily and she was like her nanny, like

housekeeper lady. And Elise was gay and she had a

girlfriend named Felise. And obviously back then it was you

couldn't be gay. I mean, there was already things going

on because it's Nazi Germany, but of course being gay,

you know, just one of those things.

Speaker 2: And so was one of those I don't want to be.

Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gay, don't be gay, knock it off. And

so Alise is with her girlfriend Felice. There that's gonna

be a tongue twister for me. I know, Alisea and

Phelice they're at this place and they see Lily and

she Alise is like, oh shit, I told her that

I couldn't babysit tonight, but I mean, here we are.

And Phelice sees her and it's just like, oh my god,

Like she's beautiful and she's like, is that mister Woost

And she's like no. So we see Lily obviously is German,

and she has a Nazi husband that is away and

that is not her husband, so she's cheating on her husband.

So they're out and about and then alarms go off

because they're bombs. They're literally bombing the city, so they

take refuge somewhere, and you know, it just seems like

it's sort of obviously normal for them, like they're at

this like theater thing, and then all of a sudden

they're like, oh, gotta go hide because you know. And

so Alisa's narrating this. She tells us that Felise is

working for a Nazi newspaper and she's writing poems and

she's also quite the player, which goes with what you

said that Alis knows this and I think Felise is Polly,

yeah for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2: And also I just have to say this, Yeah, I

think it's interesting. I saw someone on TikTok. I can't

stop talking about TikTok. Y'ah all right. I saw someone

on TikTok that was like a newer out lesbian, like

a late in life lesbian. Yeah, And she was going

on like a like a rant about like, you know,

mask and fem are just the way that someone dresses,

and how are you going to discount a whole group

of women because of how they dress? And I was like,

I don't think she understands that it's not just how

someone dresses. Like I I felt like there was a

little bit of like this dominant sort of mask vibe

from police even though she had the makeup and she

had like the forties fingerwave hair and that type of thing.

And this is what I'm saying, is so different, Like

I do see people like younger lesbians on TikTok being like, oh,

like my pretty princess and boy clothes, and it's like,

I do think that my wife is beautiful and pretty

and she's my princess, but also there are things that

are more masculine about her that are not just like

the way that she dresses. I don't know. There's more

to it. There's more of like an energy that is different,

and it bothers me when people reduce it to just oh,

this person wears baggy clothes and this person wears dresses.

Like it's so much more than that. You can pull

you can give off a mask energy when she's wearing dresses.

Speaker 1: That's true, Like we can wear baggy clothes, but I

do be yes when.

Speaker 2: I wore my outfit for Monster and I I was like,

I am giving so masked. I am like the butchers

of Butch. But like my wife is like, no, you're not,

just like you know, and it's like I think that

that is true. It's like, I don't know point being

that made me think of it because Felicie is kind

of a fucked boy lesbian.

Speaker 6: She she's hot, she's like a she's like a pre

shame shame Yeah, I think honestly, I feel like the

only reason obviously she dresses the way she does is

because you know, you have.

Speaker 1: To fit in, and she's trying to like not go

and be like this is me. You know, she can't

her stand out more. Yeah, so I feel like I agree.

She definitely is the dominant one. She is the player.

She gets around, she sees like she does she sees people.

And Alise knows this even though she's like that's my girlfriend,

but like yeah, you know. Yeah. So back at home,

Felicea's grandma is worried about her due to what's going on,

and she basically eyes and says that she has a

husband that's gonna take her away soon, and Felice's grandma

tells Alise, like, please watch out for her, you know,

because things are getting crazy. And so Felice sends Lily

a love poem at work, like she's writing her a

poem that's like very descriptive, and Lily gets it at

her house and she reads it out loud while Alise

is there and at last knows that it's from Felise,

and so she's like pissed off, But honestly, that's that

is fucked up. But again that goes with what's saying that,

Like she probably is like Alisea is not like no,

like how could she cheat on me or anything. She's

just like okay, she knows it's from Felise and she's

like what the fuck.

Speaker 2: But I think Elise is also very like because there's

a point where she gets kind of.

Speaker 1: Mad at she does she gets jealous.

Speaker 2: I think it's like she just knows that that's how

Falise is and how some of the other people are

in the group. But I think she seems like she

would want I don't know even if I that's why

I can't be Polly. I think like I I want

all the attention because I'm a Leo Rising and I

need like also, my love language is words of affirmation.

So if my partner was writing love poems for someone

else that they've never even met, they just think is

really hot.

Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, are you fucking kidding me? They haven't even

met yet. And she's just like like yeah, she's very

attracted to her and really is just like oh my gosh, like,

oh my god, who would write this about me? Like

she's so happy that someone wrote her a little love letter.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: And so Lily continues cheating on her Nazi general husband

and it's like with multiple men, and so she invites

this like Nazi dude over well, she has at least

like take the kids out to the zoo and they're like,

she's like sitting on the couch, like waiting for him

to come.

Speaker 2: In because she thinks he's the one that wrote the letter,

right She's she's like, he's gonna get it.

Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like sitting like this on the couch. She's

giving like, paint me like one of your friends she is.

She's like, oh yeah, she's German.

Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, she is friends just kidding.

Speaker 1: And so obviously her in the Nazi general there, and

then her parents knock on the door and she's like,

oh my god, go hide because like what the fuck.

Her parents come in and they start like criticizing Hitler,

which is not a good thing to do because you

can't say anything, which obviously this movie has a lot

of parallels. My god, I was gonna be like, does

that remind you of anything? Yeah, that does remind me

of something. I don't know.

Speaker 2: I wouldn't ever say anything about what it reminds me.

Speaker 1: And so the Nazi general hears this and gets mad

and like blows his cover and is like what were

you saying whatever? And then her dad is like, what

the fuck are you doing in my daughter's bedroom. He's like,

I said what I said, but what the fuck are

you doing here? And the guy's like, I'm gonna report you,

like I'm gonna turn you in, and he like basically leaves,

and the mom and dad are like what the fuck?

And Lily goes after them and it's like, you don't

mean that, right, like you wouldn't actually do that, and

he looks at her like, yeah, I actually would. But

the Nazis general is an asshole to be expected.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, obviously he's evil.

Speaker 1: Yeah, not surprised literally, and so then she's just like,

oh my god, and she goes back in and she

gets into argument with her dad because she's like, dad,

why did you have to say those things? But also

good for him for speaking his mind, but still, like,

you know, she's still well, I feel like it's kind

of rare, even though like they still obviously I would

think support them. It's just like even though he's saying something,

it's just you can't be critical at all.

Speaker 2: So no, I was just I don't remember, but is

the dad like, uh, why are you fucking this guy?

Speaker 1: Know? He at first that's what he was, just like,

I want to know what you're doing in my daughter's

bedroom and then he's like, well, basically like what do

you think? But more importantly, why are you talking about Hitler?

And then she just goes back in and she's like,

oh my god, what why did you say that? And

he's like okay, so we're not going to talk about

like the guy. So she's like, I gotta go, and

they're like, where are your kids? And she's like, they're

at the zoo. I had them go to the zoo.

So she's like, I'm gonna go get my kids and

she runs off to like, go find your kids.

Speaker 2: And so I think it was also funny because didn't

the parents say they've already been to the zoo.

Speaker 1: Two now they know she is kind of a neglectfule mom.

Speaker 2: She's like, Alice, just take my kids to the zoo

so I could be fucking. She's like my SIMS, like,

my sims are always fucking everybody, you know, I don't know.

And then they're getting pregnant and they all have different

moms because they're all women that impregnant each other. Yeah,

they're I need to get back on the SIMS.

Speaker 1: We need to do a SIMS.

Speaker 2: Yes, it's too wild, that.

Speaker 1: Would be fun. Did you ever do the medieval one. No,

there's a medieval one that I never did, Renaissance fair By,

Like yeah, medieval sims one, but I never got to do.

Speaker 2: I've done a lot of them. I have all the

expansion packs, so like I could be a vampire, I

could be a witch, I could be a mermaid. And

then I have like the different vacation towns that you

can go to. They're too busy, fucking and.

Speaker 1: Then ever go anywhere.

Speaker 2: They never go on vacation.

Speaker 1: They literally just know how to be in the room anyway. Yes,

but that's yeah, all Lily does is fuck yeah, she's wild.

Speaker 2: She is.

Speaker 1: So then she goes she runs off to find her

children and at like this little like I want to say,

this is their version of like a little club, but

it's like a little like lounge area. They're sitting there

and a guy goes over to them to Felice and

her friends, and they're asking like can we get you

guys whine, like do you want to come drink with us?

And they're like no. But they kind of have to

be nice because you know, don't want them to think

they're gay. Yeah, they don't want them to think that

like something's wrong. With them or to like you know,

like look too deep. So they're just like okay, sure whatever.

So well I skipped all the way. So then after

Lily looks for the kids but she can't find them,

and she finds Alise there and she's like, uh, where

are the kids and she's like, oh, well, they came

with us because we got done with the zoo and

I had to meet up with my friends. And so

Felice is finally introduced to Lily, and Lily meets all

of the other friends and she's just like, oh, hi,

and then Felice is very forward, so she's very much

a dom fem honestly. She's like, oh my god, we

should all go back to your place and we can

like hay out. And Lily's like what the fuck, Like

this is my first time meeting you, and Plice is like, yeah,

not only can I come over, but can my friends

also come over? Like one of my girlfriends had like

an accident or whatever, and she like needs to change

and like yeah, yeah, she gave like this weird excuse.

Speaker 2: So then Lily's accident I know, right, I don't know.

I don't remember what she said, but now I'm like,

does she Peter song.

Speaker 1: I think she said like she feels something on Oh yeah,

like action your blood period. Yeah, so that's the way

you said. It's so you're like blood blood.

Speaker 2: And so.

Speaker 1: Yeah. So she invites herself over and they have like

a whole little thing, and Lily somehow ends up like

singing because they're playing on the piano, and Alise is

like insane. This is where Lily like stole my girlfriend,

because Felice begins falling for her because she's like she's

so beautiful singing. Oh yeah, yeah, She's like, wow, I

love this song, and I'm like beginning to fall for her.

So then after Felise and what the hell did I say?

Her name was Alise? Alise, Alise and Pelice she I

was gonna say, Like anyways, so Alise and Police break

up even you know, like Atlas tells her, I know

what you're doing, like all this is like fucked up.

But Felice is like, okay, what Like I kind of

like her, so you know. So then they're like, okay,

this is it. We can be friends, but we're not

going to like be together. But Alisa's father overhears this

and kicks Felice out because he's like, you love what?

And I thought it was really funny because Alise is

like leaving her house and Felice's out there with her friends,

and she said when the father found them out, she

was like, Felice told the father do you know who

Sappho is?

Speaker 2: Oh?

Speaker 1: And then the father like obviously kicked her out because

she's just like love who and she's like oh, like yeah,

like you don't know, so obviously Felice is nowhere to be.

Felice's out from Alisa's life romantically.

Speaker 2: Okay, But also I don't know that if we mentioned this,

If you mentioned this and I forgot, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1: But it's crazy that I think.

Speaker 2: I think Elise or Ilsea was like letting.

Speaker 1: Felice live there, yeah, because she loved her.

Speaker 2: She was like keeping like her, hiding her there basically,

and she still had the nerve to like do something

to fuck that up, which I think she didn't care

when she has just met.

Speaker 1: Yeah, that that is pretty crazy. Yeah, Realise is definitely

a player, and she was just like oh well and yeah,

like who knows how long they didn't even mention how

long they knew each other, but just that that's how

it ended their little argument and then you know, so

then they go to a warehouse and this is Felice's friend,

so she basically like begs him to let her stay there,

and like they have more people, but I did not

remember any of their names, did you? And her like

friend group. Is this where they get the pictures taken? Yeah,

they have like a little montage of like photos of

them taking like naughty photos to send to soldiers.

Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the guy like pays them.

Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's where they do.

Speaker 2: Yeah, Modeline, I just remember, I don't remember anything. The

one girl that I think they make they made some

kind of joke about her being promiscuous at some point.

I think her name was like Martha or oh yeah,

I don't know. I want to say it started with

an M she had. They called it the fat one.

Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can see.

Speaker 2: All of these women's ribs. I was like, how is

it which one is fat? And where is the fat girl?

Speaker 1: But they also the guy was like, let's see more

of the fat one.

Speaker 2: Like soldiers want something to hold on to. And I'm like, okay,

I guess he's not saying that it's bad to be fat,

which is good but I'm confused because they all are

all to me. I was like, I see ribs showing

on all of these people. So she just was tall,

that's it. Like I think she was the tallest out

of all of them.

Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't really see how she's fat,

but I mean she was just like okay, like whatever,

like you know. So they do their naughty pictures for

the soldiers to make some money, and as they leave,

the Gestapo takes one of Lisa's friends like they basically

are walking and they stop to question her, and her

friends can't stop and defend her because they don't also

they don't want to get taken as well, so they

keep walking and she like struggles with them, she doesn't

want to go, and they shoot and kill her and

is very sad. It is really sad.

Speaker 2: And I don't know if we were supposed to know before,

but obviously they're all Jewish, yeah, And so that's extra

why it was a really big deal that she was

like risking getting kicked out where Elise was hiding her

because I don't think they'll is Jewish, and she was

hiding her from the fucking Nazis. And then no, now

she's not gonna hide her anymore.

Speaker 1: I guess. Well, I mean I feel like even if

she wanted to, she can't because her dad hear and

was like get the fuck out of here, you know. Yeah,

so she can't like go back, But still like, why

wouldn't you be more careful? Like yeah, I don't know,

but I don't know. It's just sad.

Speaker 2: But it's just that's another thing when you were talking

about like not standing out, Like not only does she

not want to stand out because she's gay, she doesn't

want to stand out at all because she's Jewish and

she doesn't want people asking questions and realizing that she is. Yeah,

because apparently her friend can just be walking down the

street and they're like.

Speaker 1: Oh, they're like you might be Jewish?

Speaker 2: Yeah, Which does this remind you of anything else?

Speaker 1: Yeah?

Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, wow, what the fuck is.

Speaker 1: Like? What is? Yeah? No, literally, and it's it's just yeah,

so after they walk away and their friend is killed,

it just shows them that they just have to keep

walking and unfortunately that is life for them in Naci, Germany.

And so back at Lily's house, her husband, Gunter, he

comes back, Gunter, Yeah, thank you, he is back from

the war and she's just like, oh my god, and

he's like I'm home and so I always I just

can't get over how Felisa is just always inviting people

to Lily's house, Like she literally calls her up and

is like, let's meet up for New Year's like let

a party, Let's have a party. And so they all

go to her house for New Year's even though her

husband is there and he's like, who the fuck are

all these people and she's like, Oh, they're just my

girlfriends and he's like all right, fuck it, okay, like

let's have fun. So people are getting drunk and Lily

goes over. It's like almost Fords the in the night.

Lily goes over and sees Gunter and Alice kissing on

the couch, and she it is not necessarily like angry

like you would think where she's like confronting them. She's

just like going over to tell Felice, like can you

believe it? That, like guns Her and Alise are kissing

on the.

Speaker 2: Couch, Like it's just what I'm so confused about which

man was her husband and which man was the other

guys that she was fucking because she.

Speaker 1: They that is true, but she never invited the other

generals over because it was just guns her because I

feel like eve.

Speaker 2: Husband, Yeah, it was her.

Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's why that's why she wasn't upset with it.

She was just like what the fuck, Like, okay, can

you believe? And then Felice is like, well, you know what,

this is like kind of the perfect time, and she

grabs her and kisses.

Speaker 2: Her, and I was very attracted to it, yeah, like yeah,

and then she like grabbed her by the waist and

I was like, okay, She's like and she.

Speaker 1: Just kisses her. She's like, girl, forget about your husband,

like Atlas, start making you out. Yeah, And so then

Lily is like very shocked and she like pushes her off,

and then she finally goes to the living room and

is like what the fuck is this, Like what are

you guys trying to do? So she obviously like broke

them up from kissing. And so the next day Gunter

gives this like bullshit excuse of like you don't understand

men are more susceptible to like infidelity, and like, you know,

there's just things that happen, and like that whole thing

that happened with the least, like you know, it's really nothing,

and she's like, no, it's it's not about that. I'm

like not angry or jealous, and he's like you're not

and she's like, no, not really. So then he's like,

all right, I'll fuck off back to war then, and

she's just like, Holly, I don't know. Oh my god,

hopefully you do.

Speaker 2: I know what he's thinking.

Speaker 1: So I just thought it was funny how she was

so honest because she was just like, yeah, I'm not

like angry, and you can tell she wasn't. So after

he leaves back to War, Felise goes over to Lily's

and they have sex because Lily obviously felt something during

that kiss, but she like was shocked because she's obviously

never kissed a woman before. And then she like thought about,

like why am I not upset about Gunter, but like

I like the kiss. So then Felice goes back over

and one thing leads to another and they have sex

and Lily is very like into Felice, and I feel

like at that point she's like, oh, that's why I'm

not into my husband.

Speaker 2: Or any of the other kids that I be sleeping

with on the sign she's just like who will work

for right now?

Speaker 1: And so oh my god, I went too far up. Okay. Yeah,

So then after they have sex, they like basically spend

all their time together, like yeah, they are literally like

she basically moves in and she's the stepmommy to the kids.

Speaker 2: I mean she kind of needed to move in because

she didn't have a place.

Speaker 1: Yeah, but like also, you know, there's like stuff happening

with them. They're like falling in love or at least

I feel like Lily is and Felice is too. But

like Lily, this is like her first love, and the

kids love Felice, and things are still happening. It's still

Nazi Germany, so they're trying to like have fun and

do stuff. But of course Felice is still worried about

being caught because she's Jewish, and Lily does not know.

Lily does not know this. Yeah, Lily's just like, okay,

this is forbidden because we're both women, but she doesn't

know that Felice is Jewish because you know, Felice's like

I don't trust anybody really.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Yeah, So they have their little fun time together and

they get closer and it is Lily's birthday, so they

throw her. Oh. In in between all of this, basically,

Felisa's friends are all lesbians too, and so everyone kind

of sleeps with everyone. Yeah, they have they very like, Yeah,

they have like lesbian orgy.

Speaker 2: Basically and pol.

Speaker 1: So, yeah, they are just in a polycule. And Lily

I feel like kinda knows this because she can like

see the behavior of the other women around. But all

of Felice's friends throw Lily a little birthday party, and

Felice looks very good. She's wearing like a little like

white shirt and she's like dressing very mask and right,

she's so she's so good looking. Yeah, and she they're

like dancing, and she's like telling Lily like, don't worry,

I'll like just pretend it's just me and you here.

And basically everyone starts doing their own thing, and then

that's where it turns into that orgy, and Lily is

just like kind of like what the fuck? But you know,

basically everyone's doing their own thing, and Lily and Felice

have sex, and so do the other women at the barn. Yeah,

everyone gets right, it's all their birthday. And so Gunter

returns home. He like opens the door and he sees

Lily and Felice like in the bed, and he sees

all the women actually, and you can tell they're not

just having a little sleepover like girls do. He can

tell something happen and he's just like, what the fuck.

So then it shows that him and Lily are having

Gunter and Lily are having like this intense argument where

he's just like what the fuck, Like I'm of here

in the war, I could die, like I'm in the

pits and what I saw up there was disgusting and

I cannot believe you would do this. And this is

the example there, This is the example that you're setting

for your kids, because what the fuck. And she's just

like not really knowing what to say because he's being

very aggressive and he's just like getting in her face

and he's like breaking stuff, and she's just like what

the fuck, you know, like oh my god. And basically

he's just like, you know what, I'll forget I saw anything.

Just go back up there and like be a mother

to our children. And she was just like, I actually

want a divorce, and he was like what the fuck,

Like you don't know what you want, You've never known

what you want. You don't want a divorce and she's like, yeah,

I've never loved you, I don't want to be with you.

Which can I say, Like, first of all, women getting

divorces back then, very big thing, gay women getting divorces

back then, And like, you know, her being so open

with her husband and saying these things props to her,

even because I know you think she's a weirdo, which

yeah she is, but I think she's just a little misguided.

And so she goes to tell Felice and all of

her other friends and she's just like I told I

want to divorce and all this other stuff, and they're like,

what the fuck is wrong with you? Women don't get

divorces in this like day and age right now. And

then they all freak out because they're like, oh my god,

first of all, he knows and he could report us,

and they all decide that we need to get the

fuck out of here. Lily has no clue because she's

just like, isn't this good? Like she tells Felice like,

aren't you happy that I did this? And Felice is

like yes, because I think she does love her. But

also she did not tell her that she's Jewish, and

she's like, you're putting me at a risk, so, you know,

So she tells her I have to leave for a

couple of days, just a business trip. Well, they're making

arrangements from the same guy that took the naughty photos

and they're giving them like fake things to get out

of Germany.

Speaker 2: Yeah because IDs yeah.

Speaker 1: Yeah, so because they're making They're like, this is it.

We don't want to get caught. But Felice is just

like struggling with leaving. Meanwhile, Lily is just so depressed

because she's just like, oh my god, Felice's not here

and all while everything's getting a lot worse. And eventually

she does have to send her kids away because everyone

recommended it and she didn't do it because she's like

I want my kids here with me. But towards the

end she's like, Okay, I have to, and so basically

they Felice comes back and Lily is so happy, but

she's also like, why did you leave? I don't understand,

like why you left me, and she immediately thinks that

she was cheating on her with Elise, and she's just

like going into like she's having a heart to heart

with her, and she's just like, why would you do

this with me? Like were you cheating the whole time?

And like all this sort of stuff. And basically, if

Felice tells her like I'm Jewish, and Lily's like, oh,

like that's why, but she still doesn't stop thinking that

she cheated with Elise. But I'm like, girl, would you

not understand why she had it? Like your Nazi husband

caught them? They're all Jewish, like, yeah, it's bad for

you because you're gay, but it's like she's very selfish. Yeah,

but she she didn't understand at first, and then she

tells her and then she's like, don't leave me, and

they hug and they make up and stuff, and you know,

I guess all is fine now.

Speaker 2: And so.

Speaker 1: Falise and the other her other friends like they've made

plans and they're like waiting for Felice to get there

so that they can all leave, and they're all like, fuck,

she's not gonna come. She does show up, but she

basically they know that she's not going with them because

she wants to stay with Lily, which I feel like

she should have gone with them. I think it's really

fucked up.

Speaker 2: I'm selfish of Lily because even after Felice told her

that she's Jewish, she was like, please stay with me,

don't leave me. And I think it's like, uh, couldn't

you let her go and you hopefully get in contact

when the war is over, like rather than her risking

her life because you are saying, please stay with me,

I don't want to be alone. Like oh no, I

guea feel like she's.

Speaker 1: So selfish or they could both leave, Yeah, that's true.

I'm like she was just like stay here, like you know.

Speaker 2: She wouldn't need fake things to leave.

Speaker 1: She wouldn't be fake. She could just leave like there's

no one's questioning her, you know. So her friends, Felice's

friends know that she's not going with them, but they're

like fuck. But they're also like, okay, we have to go.

So Felice is really sad and she goes back and

basically Lily and Felice write like a fucking contract of

love and they're like I vowed to be with you,

like I vout to be loyal and like all this

other stuff, and they're like, okay, what do you if.

Lily's like I'll learn how to type because she's never

had to work before, oh yeah, and she's just like

I'll get a job and I can do this and

we can we can do this, and Felice is just

like okay, like okay, and they do have like happy times,

you know. They have like a little montage of them

like trying to like live their life, but also the

reality of what's going on during this time, and it's

really sad because it makes me think of now how

people are trying to live their lives and do things,

but also fucked up things are happening, and you try

to enjoy life as much as you can regardless. And

they have like a very fun day at the and

they're just like so in love. But when they get back,

the police, the Gestapo are there to take police because

they found out that she is Jewish, and obviously Lily

and Felice they try fighting it. Felice runs out, but

they do capture her, and Lily is distraught because that's

the love of her life, and she goes to see

Elise and basically they're talking about Felice and what's going on.

She's obviously been sent to a concentration camp, and Lily

went to go visit her at the concentration camp and

Aalise is very upset about this. She's like, don't you

understand what they're gonna do, Like they're going to send

her away now because you went to go see her.

But all Lily can think about is like, you know,

she's like, I love her, and I loved her more

than you loved her, and my love was different than

your love from her, so weird because Falice actually loved me,

and I was like, okay, that's a little harsh because

you know, I don't know. And basically she was just

trying to convince alisea that like they were meant to

be together, and she believes it because she's like we

deserve each other, you know, like we are meant to

be together. And Alise is just like what the fuck?

So she's gonna leave, but Lily's like, tell me, did

she see you again? Like was she cheating on me

with you? And Alise says nothing, and you know that

part ends, and now there is an older Lily and

an older Elise, and older Lily is like thinking about

all these things of what went on, and she goes

over to Elise and she decides to like turn away,

walk away, but Lisea's like hold on, like Lily, like,

I know it's you. So they begin talking about what

happened to them, like obviously Elise got out, Lily's alive,

and Alise has had like many lovers, like she's experienced,

live lived her life to the fullest, while Lily was

like I literally had no like I could never get

over her. And at Leasta's like really, She's like yeah,

like I couldn't get over like anything that would happen,

Like was it really my fault that they sent her away?

Like yes, girl, it was because you were selfish and

you wanted her there. But I get it, but if

you loved her that much, you would go with her

because you know she can't stay there. So they basically

sort of make amends and they're just like you know,

this is this is life unfortunately, like this is what happened.

It's been so long, it's kind of time to let go,

and they both walk in to their nursing facility. The end, however,

I don't know if you saw when we were watching

the movie that it is like based on a true story.

I didn't see that.

Speaker 2: I just saw that at the end it said, like

what happened to yeah character, but I didn't know it

was based on Yeah.

Speaker 1: So Lily Woost was considered a Holocaust survivor and like

I know, right, and she's gay, yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, like because she was gay, Yeah,

she was married to the Nazi, So I was like

she was on the wrong side. But then I guess

she kind of stopped being on that side because she

came out about her.

Speaker 1: About being Yeah. So there were two other people that,

like a reporter and a journalist, and they like got

in contact with her and they basically became friends, and

she like told her story of like what happened. So

there is like a Felice in Lily story and they

remained friends until Lily passed away. But she was able

to like share her story, which makes it Felice and Lily,

like Lily was a real person and.

Speaker 2: Like that was a lover.

Speaker 1: Yeah, and she really did die.

Speaker 2: Yeah, well we assume because she was never like heard

from again after she was taken to a concentration.

Speaker 1: Yeah, Like there were those letters, but then after it

was like nothing. And that part made me cry because

it was so it was so sad. It's very similar

to things going on now. Yeah, and it is very

scary to think about, like what could be you know,

so yeah, yeah, very sad ending, yeah, and I hate

sad movies, but I mean it's life, so I know,

I know.

Speaker 2: So yeah. So for this episode, because it was so

sad and there was a lot of death, we decided

not to do much merch murder. Obviously. If we did

do much merger murder, we would kill Hitler and all

of the Nazis.

Speaker 1: Yeah, so I have a feeling you'd also kill Lily.

I kind of counted her in with the Nazis.

Speaker 2: Yeah, but I know that once she was in love

with Felice and Phillie finally told her she was Jewish,

she like still wanted to be with her, so she

must have realized the air of her ways. But I

do think her initial I mean, she was married into it,

so she must have had similar beliefs or been one

of those people that are like, I'm not political, but

like you're Yeah. So instead we decided to do key

takeaways instead of much much murder. So, do you have

any key takeaways that you want to share?

Speaker 1: Angelina? Yes, I feel like we both saw the similarities

of this movie. Obviously, that was like the escalated version

of like rounding everybody up, which is happening right now,

is just like in the first phase of it. I

feel like we all need to stand up, and the

ones that are currently in this cult need to wake

up because you are literally on the wrong side of

history and there is not going to be I feel

like any excuse we're saying, like I just voted for him,

or I believe in some of the things, not all

of it, there's just no excusing it at all.

Speaker 2: I don't understand how people are still sticking by this,

Like I feel like, I know there are people that

like regretted their vote, but there are a lot of people,

including family members of mine, that have stuck behind their choice.

They still think that this is okay. And it's like

that scene. I mean, I know that it was supposed

to be shocking and moving, and it really was. The

scene where the friend is just walking down the street

and they ask her for her idea and she doesn't

have it. Yeah, she runs away and they fucking kill her.

Like all I could think of is I asking people

for their papers just because they look not white, yeah,

and detaining people that are citizens, and detaining people people

that aren't citizens and taking them to places like Alligator

Alcatraz but you know, I know that got shut down apparently,

but taking them to detention centers, which I'm sorry, these

are concentration camps. Like this is the same vibe. They're

taking people to countries they've like never even been to.

They're sending people to the wrong countries, and then they're

sending people to like if they you know, I know

this has happened many times. Somebody was like born in Guatemala,

came here as like a two month old, they're like

sending them back there. They don't even speak the language,

like this type of thing. It's just really fucked up.

I don't understand how anyone can stand behind it. It

is terrifying. And you know, I people, I mean people, Yeah,

they're in occult like the bag, it's a cult. And

so there's like a part of me that wants to

I don't know, I have compassion fatigue because it's like

I want to feel for people because I'm like, I'm

sorry that you're brainwashed, but also I'm like, you're causing

so much damage by what you're supporting, and it's just

upsetting and it's it's honestly evil, Like I don't yet

people can look at this, look at Nazi Germany and

condemn it, but then it's literally happening again in America

this time, and people are standing behind it and we

want to you know, like in sociology class and history class,

you look back and they try to explain like how

did how did this happen? How did the Holocaust?

Speaker 1: How did it?

Speaker 2: And Yeah, a huge step in that is dehumanizing the

people who in this were the Jewish people. Now it's immigrants,

basically people that are not white. Yeah, because they don't

even know if if someone's an immigrant, and then it's

anyway it is. It is dehumanizing because people laughed about

Allocator Alcatraz and people potentially getting eaten by alligators, Like

how is that funny?

Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't care. They don't care at all. It's

just even though like you said, it got shut down,

it's still fucked up because they're just gonna be everywhere.

Yeah there's yeah, there doesn't matter where, Like regardless when

they kidnap them, they are taking them like just that

act in itself, kidnapping people, It's fucking insane. What the heck?

Speaker 2: So yeah, my key takeaway was pretty much the same

as yours, just this is literally happening again right now.

Instead of Jews, it's anyone not white, yea, And we

can't let this happen again. And I also put another

takeaway is not to be so possessive over the person

that you love.

Speaker 1: It is crazy to me that she literally died because

of the choices that Lily made.

Speaker 2: And she's still fifty years later obsessed like did you

ever have sex with her after we were together?

Speaker 1: It's like I just need to find out why.

Speaker 2: I need to know she fucking died for you, like

to be there for you, so obviously she loved you.

So yeah, I had a lot of feelings about about this,

but it's always sad, but it's like extra sad.

Speaker 1: To watch it now with.

Speaker 2: With life being with yeah life, So okay, I want

to know what you would rate this movie.

Speaker 1: Okay, when I first watched this movie, it was really sad,

and I really I liked it, but I it wasn't

one of those ones where I was like I'm gonna

watch this again and again and again. So watching this

was like a pretty tough watch. I feel like, in general,

the message and like showing everything that happened that like

people there have always been gay people. This is like,

this is just a love story. And the fact that

it's also a true story. I feel like that is

a deciding fact. So I want to give it a

four to five cherries.

Speaker 2: I'm going to say a four. Also, I was going

to say a three. I let them say a three too.

But the more we talked about it, and I did

have a lot of conversations with my wife about it

after I watched it. Therefore, even though it was sad,

and even though Lily pissed me off, I think that

it was very impactful and so it deserves more than

a three.

Speaker 1: Yea.

Speaker 2: Everybody makes bad decisions at some point, and if I

don't know exactly what happened, like if it was how

much of the story was.

Speaker 1: True and how much was changed.

Speaker 2: But if she did make those choices, that sucks that

she had to live with that forever in real life.

Speaker 1: Apparently there's a book, so oh.

Speaker 2: Girl, now I got to read it. What's it called?

Is it called Amy and Jaguar?

Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah, okay, cool.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we are back for our Cookie Jar question segments.

Speaker 2: Yes, okay, hopefully this will lighten the mood a little bit.

Life is sad, Amy and Jaguar are sad. Hopefully these

questions will be funny.

Speaker 1: Watch They're all like, very very deep.

Speaker 2: What is the most traumatic thing.

Speaker 1: Do I think?

Speaker 2: Let's see? Okay, this one's long, Okay.

Speaker 4: Okay, okay, which stuff media moment scarred you permanently in

a funny way?

Speaker 1: It says, okay in a funny way? Yeah, wow wow,

Oh okay.

Speaker 2: I can't think of anything funny.

Speaker 1: I can't think of anything like fun Okay, Oh you

have one? Would you like to go? Because I can't

think of anything right now?

Speaker 2: Okay. I was gonna say when Jojo Siwa had the

makeup on at that thing and somebody was like, who

would be your dream guests on your podcast?

Speaker 1: Would you like that's your you know what? Yeah? I

think that was funny. Maybe all of JoJo's stuff is

like traumatic but funny.

Speaker 2: I was gonna say two things that involve Katy Perry,

but I don't think they're that funny. The first one,

a little okay when I was coming out, was when

I kissed the girl came out and it was all

over the radio, and it was like, you're my experimental game,

like I hope your boyfriend doesn't mind, and it was

like that was very much like the vibe that I

got from all of my friends, including my friend that

became my first ex. It was like kind of like police,

everybody just mixed out with each other. Blah blah blah.

Speaker 1: I don't know.

Speaker 2: It didn't take it as serious as the way that

I thought of it, which was like I think I'm

actually like gay and want to like spend my life

with a woman like so that song I have a

lot of mixed feelings about, but now I like it.

So I guess it's kind of funny because I like

it now, But also do you I feel like I

talked about this on the podcast before, because apparently I'm

still mad about it. Like a year or two ago,

Katy Perry and Doci before Doci got famous, basically scissored

on stage at the VMA's for like Katy Perry's new song,

and it was so for the male gaze and it

was so creepy and gross, and I was like really

disappointed in Katy Perry because I thought she had learned

because she was hanging out with actual lesbians, so I

thought she like learned something. But maybe the lesbian she's

hanging out with, I think it's okay, So I guess

it's funny to other lesbians. It's not funny of me though,

So I think the Guera one is the funniest.

Speaker 1: I can see that. And you're a hatred of Katie Perry.

Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I do think she's really pretty.

Speaker 1: She is really pretty. It's probably because she has what

she has blue eyes, but she has dark hair.

Speaker 2: Yeah, she has dark hair and l eyes like Megan Fox. Also,

I uh had posted a TikTok and people were commenting

about like celebrity like saha couples they would want to

see or whatever. They were saying, Charlie's starn and Angelina

Joe Lee, which I could see, yeah, because like blonde

and dark hair, it's cute. But then other people were

like Megan Fox and Angelina Joey.

Speaker 1: Because Meg I saw like an edit of them.

Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think they look too much alike. I

feel like Megan Fox but Angelina. Megan Fox wants to

be Angelina Joey, but she also wants.

Speaker 1: To but she could also. Yeah. See, I don't know.

Speaker 2: I don't like it when couples look like I think

it's like okay dating.

Speaker 1: I feel like they're okay, Yeah they don't. They don't

look they are both.

Speaker 2: They're both extremely beautiful, but they also both are thin, white,

dark hair, light eyes the same like kind of genre.

They're both kind and also like edgy for Hollywood, like, yeah,

have some tattoos. I don't know. I don't know. I

would rather see Shrels and Angelina. Okay, you can pick one.

Speaker 1: Okay, let's see if you were a scent, what would

you smell like? Oh do you have? I feel like

I just use like vanilla or like other sense. I

don't know, maybe something fruity but not like so strong fruity, yeah,

but like something around there. Okay, this is really gay.

Speaker 2: My favorite scent is lavender and lavender menace lesbians, So

I would smell like lavender would be like a lavender perfume.

I don't wear lavender perfume, so that's the thing. But

if I was a scent, I would be a lavender perfume.

But what I wear myself is not that. I just

know it's so interesting because lavender is a very like

unisex scent.

Speaker 1: I would say.

Speaker 2: I typically choose like fragrances for myself that are like

not unisex smelling. I pick things that I feel smell

really feminine like. So anyway, I don't know what's your favorite,

like perfume or fragrance.

Speaker 1: I feel like I don't have like I do like

fruity stuff. I like that, but not when it's like

super like bubble gummy like fruity like strong smelling. It

has to be like somewhere in the middle.

Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah yeah. I go through a lot

of like phases with sense. I get really into a

fragrance and then I get over it, so like it's

so funny. Actually I'm going to ask for this on

my Christmas list. In high school, my signature, my signature

scent was Paris Hilton. It was I think it's called

just Paris. It was in a punk bottle with like

almost like zebra looking like black stripes around. It smells

really good and like people knew me by that tent,

you know. Oh and it's so funny because she came

out with a new one. It smells very similar. It's

called Iconic, And while I smelled it the other day

and she's like, oh my god, this smells still good.

The smells like which you would wear.

Speaker 1: When I first met you. And I was like, oh, I.

Speaker 2: Think I still wore it at that point, and she's like,

I want to get you this Like I like it.

So anyway, I think that's cute. But right now, recently

I've been in this flur missing person. It just smells

like really like clean skin, which I like because at

my work you're not allowed to wear perfume, but I

wear it because it just smells like clean skin skins. Okay,

so I'm like, well, I'm sorry, I'm just clean.

Speaker 1: That smells super sorry hygenic.

Speaker 2: Yeah, like you can't get mad at me for bathing. Okay,

what's your toxic trait when it comes to ordering food?

Speaker 1: I feel like I don't have a toxic trait, Like

maybe I don't like a lot of like of the

toppings that they have, so that's probably annoying for them

to like have to customize it, and you know, that's

the only thing I can think of. I feel like

I'm not super upset if they don't get it right,

unless it's like something really important or like okay, you know,

like how could you mess that up?

Speaker 2: Yeah?

Speaker 1: But I'm never like a bitch. I'm just like, oh, hey,

like my order is not right, you know, Yeah, what

about you?

Speaker 2: Well, I have binge eating disorder, so my toxic trait

is ordering like an excessive amount of and like my

wife will be like, we're not going to eat all that,

and I'm like, I don't care what you say. We're

getting an appetizer, we're each getting an entree, and we're

getting dessert, and like probably also like if it's a

vegan restaurant, we're each getting a milkshake, you know what

I mean. Like we're like going all out, and I

just go too hard and then either I have a

lot of leftovers or I eat it all and then

my tummy hurts. I'm like, why did I take it

to myself?

Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd think i'd learned by now, But I feel like,

if it's a vegan restaurant, I see, because that's kind

of rare.

Speaker 2: It's like special. Like when we go to that sushi

place that I think I've told you about, I order

so much fucking food.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean leftovers. Yeah. What's your red flag that

you completely ignore other people? I don't a red flag.

I ignore your red flag that you ignore an other people?

Speaker 2: Oh my own red flag?

Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if this is a red flag,

but I have learned recently that it's annoying when people

like get excited and interrupt other people. But I do

it and I feel bad about it. So when other

people do it, I'm like, Oh, they're just passionate. Like

I'm like, they are just like me. They don't mean to.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I guess that's kind of a

red flag. I feel like it's sort of a similar

to that. Like my family usually, like when we're talking,

it's like never ending. So it's like you and I, like, say,

you and I would be talking and then like someone

else wants to join, and so they just start talking

louder than the other people, and we just kind of

like talk over each other. And like I remember one

of my sister's exes was like, oh my god. I

feel like he never used to like talk a lot,

like when we were all talking and we were like,

oh yeah, like are you okay, and he's like, yeah,

I am. It's just I don't want to be rude

and like interrupt you guys, and like I don't know

when it interjects like myself and we're like, oh no,

just start talking, and then people will stop talking and

listen to you. And yeah, I feel like now that

obviously you know, you're not just always around your family.

You see it with like friends and other people, and

so then when like I talk to my family, I'm

just like, yeah, you guys are kind of rude because

we just interrupt each other, like we just start talking

louder and then we're just like listen to me, and

I'm like, we need like talking six to like pass,

to like let that person finish, okay.

Speaker 2: But also I think that I don't know, maybe this

is weird. I think that does anyone teach you how

to have a normal conversation, because I feel like we

just learned it from the people were around, And that's

why I never knew until like a few years ago

that it can be construed as like rude. When you

I knew that interrupting was rude, but when I do it,

I feel like it's okay because I'm just trying to

add to your story or like you're like, oh my god,

that's so funny that. But then the thing that I

do that I learned is rude. But I thought this

was just having a normal conversation. And some people I

talk to agree and some people don't. So I guess

it just depends on the person. I thought when you're

having a conversation with someone and they tell you, like

a story or something that happened, and you have a

similar story, that you tell that story because that's how

a conversation works. Like you're like, have you ever been

in a physical fight? And then you're like, uh, sort

of blah blah blah. And then I'm like, oh my god,

I was. But if you you didn't ask me. Other

people construe that as like you're making it all about yourself,

and so I'm like, well, somebody should have taught me

that because I thought that's how conversations work. I thought

we'd just share information.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that's usually how it is. It's

just some people. I guess like you're, like you said,

they just learned differently from the people that they were

raised around, which I feel like we always like kind

of add to our stories and to me, that's just normal,

but maybe not to everybody. I guess not to everybody.

Speaker 2: So I've probably been really accidentally rude to a lot

of people in my life.

Speaker 1: Yeah, we have time for another one. Okay, one more.

Speaker 2: Okay, Wow, this one's skinny. If you could swap lives

with any fictional character for a day, who would it

be and why?

Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, a fictional character. Well, I don't know about now,

but I know when I was younger, I used to

read these books. It was like Kimmerine and the Dragons

or something, and I thought she was so pretty and

I wanted to be her and just live with dragons

and not give a fuck about anybody. Because people also

were like, she's so weird, but she's so cool and

she just does her own thing, and I was like,

I want to live in like this little like tree

house with everybody and not dragons. Yeah. She was always

rescuing her like night in shiny armor. He was like clumsy,

and she was just like, oh my god, like, let

me save you, Like she was like badass and I

was like, yeah, I want to be her.

Speaker 2: That's like how Anna in Frozen. Oh she wait Yanna? Yeah,

because Elsa's lesbian. Yeah, so Anna would.

Speaker 1: Be saving picked off? Yeah right, And I was like

yeah you go girl, Yeah yeah. Now though I don't know,

nobody comes to mind right now. It'll probably come to

me later and then yeah, but what about you?

Speaker 2: Uh No, I can't think of anyone fictional. I'm thinking

like if the L word was still and it would

be whoever is currently with Shane but already on.

Speaker 1: You have to switch each time you first.

Speaker 2: I'm like, damn many people. I don't know that there

is like a fictional character that I can think of.

I'm like thinking of real life people that are rich,

like the Kardashians, and I'm like, oh, if I could

like switch places with them, then I would like get

a bunch of money. They wouldn't even need it, and

then I could come back to me and I would

have no where I hid the money, Give me my money.

That's but who's a fictional person that's really rich that

I could do that?

Speaker 1: Like trying to plan it like it's real life and

I'm going to get to You're like, I need a

fictional person.

Speaker 2: I don't know, well, I don't know. I don't know

someone someone also like magical. But I don't want to

say Harry Potter because I know Harry Potter's canceled, but

I love Harry Potter.

Speaker 1: It's not you love Harry Potter but you hate I

hate Jake Kyrol. Yeah yeah, oh rolling that real?

Speaker 2: Well we should say it Rowling because fucker yeah, now

I pronounce it wrong, JK Rowling. I think she says

it like rolling because she has an accent, so who knows.

It's the British way. It's like how we were saying

a lease instead of because we're not German anyway. I

think that's all the time we have. So thank you

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Speaker 1: Don't miss next week's episode. We will be discussing one

of Caitlyn's favorites, the home of the famous spinning in

the mouth scene Disobedience.

Speaker 2: So excited.

Speaker 1: Yeah, this movie can be watched on Canopy with the

K if you have a library card and Canopy has

like a partnership with your library in the area. And

if not, then go get a different library car, which

I found out that you could do, and I didn't

know that.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. There's probably somewhere you can

rent it also, but I don't know. It was a

struggle to find. Yeah, homophobic, to be honest, all gay

movies should be free. Yes, at least two gays. Was like, yes,

we watch it for free.

Speaker 1: We need education, that's true. We need to see who

spits in whose mouth?

Speaker 2: And yeah, and they're both named Rachel not Gerals, but

it's Rachel McAdams and Rachel Rachel Wise. Yeah, I think

she's German.

Speaker 1: Is she? Oh? Yeah? Probably so anyway, Well see you

next Tuesday.

Speaker 2: Executive producers for But I'm a Lesbian are Caitlin Beatty

and Angelina Herrera. Produced and mixed by Victoria Shiplet. Creative

direction and video editing provided by One to Hear Your

Tay music by Stiletto Falsetto.