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Speaker 2: We're your hosts, Caitlin and Angelina.
Speaker 3: Get ready for some sapphig serotonin. So today's episode centers
on Ethan Cohen and Tricia Cook driveaway dolls. They well,
we have a lot of thoughts on this. You'll hear more.
But if you've seen our TikTok, you know you know
my thoughts on it at least. But Angelina's are going
to be a surprise. So I wanted to ask you.
I don't, well, surprise me.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: They spend a lot of time in lesbian bars in
this movie. Have you ever been to a lesbian bar?
Speaker 2: Sadly, no, I've never been.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've only been to like events for Pride events
or when they're like oh come and it's like an
LGBTQ plus friendly space. But I have yet to go
to a lesbian bar, which is on my bucket list?
Speaker 2: Have you? No?
Speaker 4: I mean there's only like thirty six.
Speaker 2: I know I'm currently more closing, which is crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so no, I've never been to one.
Speaker 3: I went to La Pride in like two thousand, maybe thirteen,
and the Palms I think it's called. They talk about
it on the lwhere, which is like a very old
school lesbian bar was near where they were having La Pride,
and I wanted to go in there, but I was hammered.
I was like really drunk, and we were like walking
back to a hotel and I was like, oh my god.
And while I was like, my wife was like no,
we're going back, and then it closed.
Speaker 4: I think that was like the year that I closed.
It was closing, So.
Speaker 3: I like I remember extra wanting to go because of that,
but also I was like really drunk.
Speaker 4: I was too drunk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I also remember that I was like whenever I
would drink, I really wanted pizza, Like, so I was
like walking around La being like.
Speaker 4: I want pizza, and so then my wife had to
get me like a slice of pizza.
Speaker 1: She's like lesbian bar, Pizzazza's easier to get you made
the pizza.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean I don't think there are really
any near us at all. There's not even really a
gay bar near us. There are things where like they
have special like one night events. I haven't gone to
them because it feels like, at least in our area,
the like lesbian events that they have, they kind of
seem like they're geared towards single lesbians, like I don't know,
so it feels weird to me.
Speaker 1: Well, there was a event we were gonna go, but
then we ended up not going. Yeah, I understand what
you mean. Sometimes it's like, if it's special events, it
definitely feels like come and mingle, which is great, like go, yeah,
see the other ones, but obviously we're both in relationships,
so we're like okay, yeah, we're.
Speaker 2: Like okay, I guess we can go. I mean, one
of these days we'll all have to go to like
I know, I know, give a review.
Speaker 1: But yeah, until then, yeah, single lesbians ye find their
future partners.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be cool to someday go to a
lesbian bar. I think there are still some, or at
least one in San Francisco, the Lexington Club or something.
I think that still exists, and I wanted to go
to that, but I don't really go to San Francisco ever,
so it's not like it's that close to me. Okay,
I guess I kind of knew that was going to
be your answer, but I thought maybe you were going
to be like, actually, I have, I have, I went
to this place so interesting. Let us know in the
comments if you've been to a lesbian bar or if
there's like a lesbian bar near you, because there are
so few, so I'm curious if there's any close to
anyone that is a listener, So, uh, we can talk
about our hot takes or burning desires.
Speaker 4: Is there anything that you want to share?
Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like my hot takee is a little boring,
but I know a lot of lesbians liked this movie
and I had high hopes too. When I heard about it,
I was like, oh my gosh, Caitlin, we you know
how cool.
Speaker 2: But I did not like it. So maybe that's a
hot take for some people.
Speaker 1: I don't like because I don't like it because I've
seen a lot of people say like, I like this movie,
I love it, and I think the general opinion is
I like it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, what is your hot taake?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I said, I understand that this is supposed to be
a B movie and it's supposed to be campy, but
I still don't like it. And I feel validated in
my haterism of this because I feel like this movie
to me as a lesbian, I resent your laughter, but
you know, I really felt like it felt like it
was making a joke of lesbians and acting like we're
obsessed with dildos, and I don't like it.
Speaker 4: It made me feel weird.
Speaker 3: I know that there are some lesbians that probably are
really really into dildos, and that's fine, but it just
made it seem like they're like obsessed with these like
dildos and like, oh, she just can't help herself, but
like fuck.
Speaker 4: Herself with it. And I was like, yeah, this is
too much, girl. I don't know, I don't know, have
some self control, have some dignity, ma'am. So yeah, I
still don't like it.
Speaker 3: I will say that I rewatched it for this, and
I had watched it before, yeah, and I kind of
like hated it slightly less the second time I watched it.
Speaker 1: We just have to watch it like ten more times.
Speaker 2: And then maybe we'll like it. We're we have a
new opinion.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I doubt it, but maybe you.
Speaker 3: Hate it more after like like, actually, I have taped
my mind.
Speaker 4: It's worse.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna take a quick break now, and when
we get back, we'll get into the recap. Check your
answering machine messages real fast, and get back here. Welcome
back to But I'm a Lesbian. This week we are
discussing Driveaway Dolls. So this movie, first of all, was
originally called Driveway Dikes. Oh yeah, I think that's important
to note since we're talking about the name of the movie.
And while I'm gonna tell you personally, I was really
excited about this movie.
Speaker 4: We went to our local movie theater.
Speaker 3: I don't even remember what we saw, but like, we
saw the poster for this movie before it came out,
and we were like, oh, this looks kind of gay
because I think it had like like a open legs
or something, or like a woman shaped silhouette on the
cover and then like a car like on the poster,
and so I was like, hey, looks look at this,
and then my wife was like, oh, it says Beanie's
in it, Beanie felt and we were like, I love Beanie.
Speaker 4: Okay, cool, And.
Speaker 3: Then my wife really wanted to watch it because she's
one of those lesbians that loves Pedro Pascal and he's amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so she's like, we have to watch it for Pedro.
Speaker 3: I was like okay, and so and I was like, oh,
that that girl from Made is in it.
Speaker 2: Ye show.
Speaker 4: Yeah that was a good show.
Speaker 3: Enoughlix Margaret Qually, but I didn't know anything else about
her except I know that she's straight and they keep
casting her as a lesbian, which is kind of interesting.
Speaker 4: But she's kind of hot in this, but.
Speaker 3: I don't like her character. I just think she looks
kind of hot object.
Speaker 1: She does look very attractive. Yeah, she's like everything else
about it, Yeah, like that. I liked her style, I
liked her outfits. I was like, okay, yes, but like
her character. Yeah, her character obnous.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's one of those rare moments where it's like, even
though the character is hot and they're doing all these
like awful things, we excuse it. But this time her
personality is just a no go.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It overshadowed it in really bad Southern accent that she's
doing through this whole movie.
Speaker 1: It was so distracting. I had to like stop it
and then watch it the next day. Yeah, and I
was like, I can't get over. It's so distracting to
me that I'm not even paying attention to the movie.
Speaker 3: It was like, and I want to say again, because
people kept telling me on TikTok, well, you just don't
understand it, okay, Like it's supposed to be a B movie.
It's supposed to being like a film bro, no film
bros were talking to me.
Speaker 4: It was like film lesbian film. But they're like, your.
Speaker 3: Stand okay, Like this is a B movie. It's supposed
to be camp like it's supposed to be bad. And
I'm like, okay, but I still am allowed to have
my opinion. And I I think that but I'm a
Lesbian is a camp movie and they did a good
job being campy this.
Speaker 2: I was like, but I'm a lesbian, but it's okay.
Speaker 3: I think that An example of a movie that was
camp and did a good job was but I'm a Cheerleader.
But I feel like they this did not do a
good job. And so and you know what, I looked
up what's a B movie? Because I was like, am
I confused? And there are B movies that I like?
Because Little Chop OFFRS Is considered a B movie and
I fucking.
Speaker 2: Love Little Shop before Little Shop of War is so
fucking good.
Speaker 1: But also this felt like they were trying, like it
was trying to not be a B movie, which is
why I felt like it wasn't.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just weird.
Speaker 3: I anyway, I'll actually get into the recap.
Speaker 4: It was sitting all over it.
Speaker 3: So it's set in nineteen ninety nine, which I love
because I think I've talked about this before. I love
nineteen ninety nine because I was nine years old.
Speaker 4: You were born. I was you were born.
Speaker 3: But at the very end, and I feel like it
was like the summer of nineteen ninety nine is the
summer that I remember really clearly, like as I was, like,
you know, in my tween hood, and I just I
remember that very clearly from my childhood.
Speaker 4: I like nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 3: Anyway, So we open in Philadelphia. So we're in Philadelphia.
I've never been to Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: Have you No?
Speaker 3: Okay, I used to live in Pennsylvania for a really
short amount of time. I don't know if I talked
about this on the pod, but the town I lived
in it was called.
Speaker 2: Be For.
Speaker 3: So it was at Seaver Pennsylvania and all the signs.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: Also around that time was when I had my mom
paint a giant rainbow in my room.
Speaker 4: Oh my, Y have a picture of me somewhere.
Speaker 3: In like myos of me standing there like with my tool.
Rainbow room anyway, so gay, But yeah, our team was
the Beaver Badgers or the Beaver bear cat or something.
It was like, why can't we just be the beaver Beavers.
I thought that was weird, but I guess whatever.
Speaker 2: They had to they had to add more. I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I also had a crush on my pee teacher there.
Her name was miss Horwat.
Speaker 3: I actually have like looked her up kind of recently
and I think she still works there. I don't think
she's a lesbian, but she she gives lesbian vibes. She
probably just wasn't out then because it was like two
and two. That's true anyway. So we opened in Philadelphia,
like a bar type of restaurant, and we see Pedro
pescal and he's holding a briefcase and he looks all
like kind of nervous, and then he leaves and he's
walking outside and he's still holding the briefcase. And then
we see that the waiter from the restaurant is following
him in the dark, and then Pedro starts like running,
and then the waiter guy is chasing him, and then
we then we find out that Pedro's character's name is Santos,
but I think that later we hear his whole name,
but whatever.
Speaker 4: We're gonna just refer to.
Speaker 2: I only remember because.
Speaker 4: He's like, hey, Santos, like he says something like that.
And then.
Speaker 3: The waiter is like, give me the briefcase, and Pedro
doesn't immediately give it to him, so he like kills
him with a quirkscrew like in his uh like neck,
and and then also a pen or knife inside of
the neck.
Speaker 4: I don't know where there. He was like.
Speaker 2: Rowing from both. And then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then another guy comes up and steals the
briefcase and then takes it to a car and they
drive away.
Speaker 4: So we're like, okay. I was like, what does this
have to do with lesbian?
Speaker 2: That's what I saw too. I'm like, are they okay?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was funny because we watched the movie because my
wife wanted to see him, and he was in it
for like a minute bye.
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally like less than five minutes.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So anyway, then we cut to now we see lesbians.
Speaker 3: We cut to a sex scene with Margaret Qually aka Jamie.
Speaker 4: Her character's name is Jamie.
Speaker 3: In this she's going down on another girl and then
she gets a voicemail I guess a voicemail an answering
machine message while she's having sex with the friend.
Speaker 4: The friend's name is Carla.
Speaker 3: Okay, she's having sex with Carla and her friend Marian
calls and is like leaving a message, and but she doesn't.
Speaker 4: I don't think she answers this time, because she's like listening.
Speaker 2: To the Messageeah, she just listens to it while she's
having sex. Yes, like are you going to yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: And then and then we see Marian and she's like
at work, so we're like, okay, she was calling from
work to talk to her friend and a man is
hitting on her, a man that works there, and he's like, oh,
do you like want to go see Fish to know?
And she's like no, and he's like it's a band,
you know. Like she's like I know, oh yeah, he's
like a fish. She's like yeah, I don't like I know,
being alone weirdo. Anyway, and then Marian calls again, and
then Jamie answers and she's like, don't call me Darry sex.
Speaker 4: I told you not to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but she doesn't want her to know that she
is having sex because I think we then find out,
like she's supposed to be with a different girl.
Speaker 4: You're not supposed to be this girl.
Speaker 1: She answers the phone, but someone else, like she has
her on the other line. She has Marian on the
other line, and Suki is on the line, and she's like,
what do you mean you're having sex and she's.
Speaker 2: Like, oh no, I'm just masturbating. It's just the video
is like really loud.
Speaker 1: Like let me turn turn it down, and Marian's like hello,
And so she's already a cheater. We can find out
because she's not supposed to be having sex.
Speaker 4: I was confused by the whole situation.
Speaker 1: I thought so too, But when I watched it again,
I was like, oh, the line like she put her
on a hole because.
Speaker 3: There used to be like like in mean girls when
like they're like calling and they're like hold on, like
they said, but like they were talking shit about each
other on the lines. Okay, anyway, that's not that important. Anyway,
she's supposed to be with Suki is the point, and
she's not. She's going down on Carla, and so then
we see we cut to a lesbian bar and Marion
is there. She's watching Jamie who's kind of like hosting
this like body shot competition, and like, I don't know
if they ever say what Jamie's sign is, but she
gives like really big leo energy because she's like, I'm
the center of attention.
Speaker 4: I'm basically like hosting this.
Speaker 3: She gives me Leo Gemini by Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I could see I could see the air sign this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, so then they show that Suki, who is I
keep wanting to say Suki, like okay, yeah, but Ki,
who was played by Beanie, it's like being a hater
about Jamie and she's like, oh, she's a slut, blah
blah blah. And so then I think we realize that
that's the one that she's dating, and she sees her
being kind of scandalous on the stage, so she like
goes up and apparently she punches her. And I just
want to say that I know this is like supposed
to be funny, but like just because they're both girls,
doesn't mean that they can hit each other, okay. Domestic
violence is not okay in any circumstance. Yea.
Speaker 4: And so later we see Jamie.
Speaker 3: On the couch and she has like peas or whatever
on her eye because her girlfriend punched her and I
guess broke up with her and she not has to
move out, so she's gonna have to like move out,
and she's like complaining about love to Marian. She's like,
love is the worst, blah blah blah. It's like maybe
if you want a cheater, it wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Be she obviously you shouldn't have got a black eye,
but maybe you didn't cheat, you would still be together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she bothers me already, and she's doing this stupid
accent the whole time. She's supposed to be from Texas
and so she's doing this like over the top accent. Anyway,
Marian says, well, I'm going to go to Tallahassee to
go visit my aunt.
Speaker 4: And Jamie's like, oh cool, I need to go on
a trip like to like clear my mind.
Speaker 3: And she's like I didn't invite you, but okay, and
so she's like, we could do a drive away and
I've never heard of this before, and Marian had also
never heard of this. So apparently a drive away is
or was a thing where like you contact like a
car rental company and you're like, hey, do you have
any cars that need to go like near Tallahassee, and
basically you I think it to do it like for
free because you're like delivering it for them, or you
get like a you kids discounting because you're like delivering
it to the other location or whatever where it needs
to go. And yeah, so that's pretty cool. And so
then they're like, She's like, I guess we can do
a drive away whatever.
Speaker 4: So the next day they're moving.
Speaker 3: Jamie's stuff out of Suki's house and then they show
Suki is trying to remove this like glittery wall dildo
and she's that's the first time I think that they
make a big point out of dildo's And I was like, oh, okay, whatever,
I just still don't want I hate penetration and that's
not the case. I just hate the idea that lesbians
are obsessed with some with phallic things.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Anyway, So she is also complaining about this cute chihuahua
that I guess Jamie convinced her to get and she's like,
I don't even like that dog, and I'm like, okay,
well I don't like Suki. She's a cunt, because how
can you hate a cute little chihuahua. This is like
if we were to talk about like red flags just
in like people like if you don't like dogs or
if you don't like cats, I don't think I could like.
Speaker 4: And like, sorry, so I think Suki is a bad person.
Speaker 2: She already is because she hit me too. Oh yeah,
so she's.
Speaker 4: Got a lot of bad person Okay.
Speaker 3: So then they go to the car place with the
Dilda sticking out of the box, which I thought was
really weird because it's like the late nineties. They're going
to a car rental place with like a creepy old
man and they just have like a sex toy like
out of the I don't know how they're not scared
of getting hate crimed. And maybe I should be like
proud of them for like being like loud and proud,
but I'm like scared for them because like.
Speaker 1: And also the reality is that you most likely would
like they would probably be really mean and not like
or they would just be creepy and.
Speaker 4: Be like, oh, don't you want a real you know
what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like that's how like men are, Like I wouldn't go
with a sex toy hanging out to go talk and.
Speaker 2: Just put it in your pocket.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like weird. And then actually one time that I
told you.
Speaker 2: This, yeah, I was like, are you going to tell
the story?
Speaker 1: OK?
Speaker 4: One time we.
Speaker 3: Used have to go to the laundromat until relati recently
we have like a washroom dryer at our house. But
we went to the laundromount one time and for some reason,
I had like.
Speaker 4: One of those.
Speaker 3: It was like the like I think it's called like
a rabbit one, so it's like it's like a builda
thing with like the little like bunny air.
Speaker 4: And literally I hadn't even like used it yet.
Speaker 3: We just like got it for free from Like remember
when the boxes were really cool, like you would get
like a beauty box every month. It's when like bark
Box started. They had like a sex toy box. It
was called like Spicy Box. Then I signed up for
it and I got this anyway point being for some reason,
it was in the hamper like wrapped in something, and
we went to put the clothes in the washer and
it fell out on the ground in like this hick
town and it just like rolled across the ground. It
was so awkward. My wife was so mad at me.
Speaker 2: She was so excited, like Kaitlin, God, damn it.
Speaker 3: Okay, no one saw anyway, so I would not be
going purposely having it stick out with a hamper.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: So so they're like, hey, do you have anything that
needs to go like near Tallahassee need driveaways? And the
guy's like, oh, yeah, actually, like I just got a
call for one, so you must be the people for it,
because he had gotten like kind of a shady call
apparently that was like my people are going to come
in and you need to take this specific car to Tallahassee,
and so he thought they were the people. This is
where the stories connect, This is yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
So then we see them at the apartment planning the
trip and they have like a big map, which reminds me,
I'm so glad I became an adult in the time
period that I became an adult, because at least when
I started driving, we have map Quest, so like you
didn't have to use like an old school like map
map and like map it out because I would be
so fucking lost if I had to like actually use
a map and like follow the route. But anyway, she's
like marking all these gay bars that she wants to
stop at, so like she's like.
Speaker 1: But good for you for still finding out how to
use like because you told me it was like directions
like turn here, turn there. But still, I mean people
get even with like did.
Speaker 4: You never because it wasn't like the thing by the time.
Speaker 1: Oh no, my parents did they. But I was just
sitting there like, okay, we get there.
Speaker 2: When we get there, I have no idea what we're doing.
Speaker 3: I remember having to either print it out or because
I never really like had a printer when I was
like a young adult, so I would have to like
pull it up on my computer, write it down on
a piece of paper, and then have the paper near
me as I'm driving, and like trying.
Speaker 4: It's still kind of hard. I can't imagine how hard it.
Speaker 3: Would be as you were driving by yourself with the map,
because I had to be like, oh, I have to
get off on this exit.
Speaker 2: Just have it on the passenger seat.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: So anyway, she wants to make like a fun trip
out of it. She wants to try to get laid.
I'm sure she does that is She's like the scene.
Speaker 2: All the lesbian bars, let's go, And.
Speaker 3: So we see then at the drive away shop, we
see some guys looking for the car, and the owner
guys like, oh, I already give it to those girls.
I thought those were the people, and they're like, what
the fuck? And then we find out that this car
has the briefcase in it, that briefcase that Santos got
killed for ye, and so curly the guy that owns
the drive away is in big trouble with the bad
guys because of this, and then he gives them the
phone number to reach the girls because they had to
give a local number, but they gave Suki's number and
they beat him up anyway, And then we cut to
see Jamie and Marian like about to leave, and Jamie
wrote on the car like love is love is a
sleigh ride to Hell, and I'm like, why would you write.
Speaker 4: On this borrowed car? Yeah, I hope.
Speaker 2: She's so quirky, and she just saysn't care.
Speaker 3: I was like, she is rude and annoyspectful, yes, okay,
and then she says her plan is to get Marion laid,
and they get to a hotel and they asked the
guy working in the front desk where the dyke bar is,
and they're like.
Speaker 4: We're dicas, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: That was another thing where I was like, I'm proud
of them for like living like loud and proud, but
I'm like also scared for them because they're like, seems
like they're in like a kind of like a small
type of thing. And they're asking a random old probably
straight man where the dyke bar is anyway, and they
ask for other lesbian stuff.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't remember what else they say, And so the
next scene is them arriving at a lesbian bar called
the Butter Churn, and Jamie is like telling Marian, like,
choose someone to fuck, and Marian ends up leaving because
she's not into casual sex, and Jamie stays behind.
Speaker 4: Because she is into casual sex.
Speaker 3: If we didn't already understand that from her chee other girl, and.
Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with being into casual sex.
Speaker 3: I want to know that I'm not slept shaming anyone,
but I would be the Marian in this situation. Maybe
when I was drinking, I was like more into it
because like drunk, Caitlin is a completely different person. But
like I'm like basically like I would say, I'm like demisexual.
I feel like I don't have a attraction to somebody
unless I'm like actually attracted to like their mind or
like I have to have like an attraction to like
not just not just like their body to like I
never see somebody. I mean, I've been in a relationship
for a long time, so I can think it would
be weird if I was like looking at random people
on the street and being like I want to fuck them.
Speaker 4: But I never did that. I never like before.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So anyway, Marian is like reading at the hotel and
then Jamie brings a girl back to the hotel to
have sex with and I feel like that's really rude.
But she just made her leave, and so Marian like
goes and sits at the front desk like lobby with
that old man while they're doing stuff, and I feel
like that's.
Speaker 1: Just reading her book and it's late at night too.
Why would you kick your friend out?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also she invited herself on this trip, like
you know, like she's so rude okay.
Speaker 4: So then they.
Speaker 3: Show the car outside and they show the briefcases in
it in case we didn't already put that together there, like, look,
the briefcase is in here. And then the next day
we see Jamie driving and Marianne is in the passenger seat,
and marian tells Jamie she doesn't think that she should
have brought someone back to the room, and.
Speaker 4: Jamie's like, how am I supposed to read your mind?
And I'm like you she wanted you think she wanted
to go to the lobby.
Speaker 3: And like yeah, so I'm like wow. And then she
pulls off to a pizza place and this specific college
women's soccer team is having pizza, and Jamie's like, oh
my god, I know of them.
Speaker 4: They are hardcore lesbians.
Speaker 3: She says something like that, like I don't remember what
word she says, and they're gonna have a basement party
and I'm gonna get us invited, And so then we
also do There's another scene we cut to the driveaway
store again and the bad guy answers the phone and
finds out that the girls didn't show up to deliver
the car on time. That is because Jamie wanted to
make it into a trip where she tries to get
laid and tries to get the other girl late.
Speaker 4: And kept stopping and then I have.
Speaker 3: I want to have a discussion about this part. So
then we cut to the basement party. All the girls
are making out with each other, even Marian, but she
looks kind of like awkward doing it, and it's like
a rotating makeout party.
Speaker 2: Which is so weird. She like blows the whistle and
they're like, okay, next.
Speaker 4: Okay, then maybe you're going to answer my question. Have
you ever done this?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: I like, yeah, Oh my god, Okay, that's why.
Speaker 3: That's why I was like, and you know what, when
we watched this, I was like, oh my god, this
is so funny.
Speaker 4: We used to do this all the time in high school.
And my wife was like, so's weird.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, wow, we my friend Tara's house. There would
be like it would be probably like ten people, and
I remember like there wasn't like a whistle, but it
would just like everybody kind of would be like making
out with one person and then slowly somebody would like
move on to the next person start making out with
that person, and then you're like okay, So then you
rotate yes.
Speaker 4: And so I just I remember doing that.
Speaker 2: Like a lot. Yeah, and I thought that that was normal.
Speaker 4: I thought everyone did it.
Speaker 3: So I was like, well, you know what these college
uh this college soccer team or whatever did it.
Speaker 4: So I'm like that, find me out of it.
Speaker 3: It's not like the pasta yea, like everyone cuts their
pasta like into so anyway, I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so but then the thing that like gets
like a little bit weird.
Speaker 3: I guess it's like when it comes to be the
time for Jamie and Marian to make out, it's like,
I don't know, I feel like they're kind of like
looking into each other's eyes and then I think Marian like.
Speaker 4: I don't know, this was kind of hot to me.
To me, the kiss was hot, ma, what was the
hot heart?
Speaker 3: When when Marian was like being awkward and then she
was like said on her lap, I was like, am
I attracted to Margaret Cawley? I think only right now,
only if I do like Margaret.
Speaker 2: I think she's very attractive, it's just the role like
this she is, but I feel like she.
Speaker 1: Plays it away lesbian, but not in this movie, like
in general, I get what she's trying to do but like.
Speaker 3: You know, well, and then we find out that she
based her lesbian character off of a problematic man, so
that's yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just thought the camera Sima lap was like sexy. Anyway,
So then.
Speaker 3: They like make out and that was pretty cool.
Speaker 4: And so then we also see the bad guys.
Speaker 3: We cut to Suki's house and the bad guys came
in because that's the number they got from the driveaway thing,
and they ask Suki about Marian and Jamie and she
like attacks them, and eventually she shows them a picture
of Jamie and I don't know, I guess she's just like, yeah, now,
well that's bad. But now the bad guys know what
Jamie looks like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't know before, and she did not care.
She was like, yeah they're not my friends.
Speaker 4: Hurt them.
Speaker 2: And she's also a cop, so if there's not another.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't know they told us that yet,
but yeah, she.
Speaker 1: Know she had her uniform or I saw, and I
was like, she's kin, I forgot.
Speaker 3: Okay anyway, So then at the basement party we're back
there again. Marian runs off crying and I was like,
I think that's because she loves Jamie. And then we
see the bad guys talking to whoever their boss is
on the phone and the boss is like, you guys
have to drive to Tallhassee. So now we know that
they're going to be basically kind of chasing them. We
see Marian walking by herself back to the hotel and
she gets stopped by a cop literally for no fucking reason.
Speaker 4: It's racism.
Speaker 3: I feel like they were like, this is a brown
person walking by themselves and they arrest her, which is crazy.
Speaker 4: She wasn't doing anything but her attitude.
Speaker 1: She was like, I don't remember what house I came from.
It was a basement party, like a slumber party. And
he's like you're too old for a slumber party. And
then was like she was like oh my god, like.
Speaker 2: What literally she didn't even do anything.
Speaker 1: He was just like I don't like you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So then we see her in jail because she got arrested,
and she is like laying there like maybe like sort
of starting to drift off to like sleep like, and
she's remembering when she was a little kid and she
would jump on this trampoline so she could see this
neighbor lady naked that would like tan naked.
Speaker 4: In her yard, and.
Speaker 3: Then they cut to this weird like hippie sequence with
Miley Cyrus, and Miley Cyrus is like, it's like like
it's like I don't know, it's like weird hippi vibes
with weird colors, and Miley Cyrus is like, hey, handsome,
want to get plastered. So this is foreshadowing is what
I wrote this person that they have Miley Cyrus's character
based on the like plaster Caster was like a real
person that like was like a kind of like a
groupie in like the seventies, and she would like make
plaster casts of like celebrity like celebrities dicks or whatever. Yeah,
so they based Miley's little character off of that. But
then we see the two bad guys driving and one
gets a call that says Marion was picked up and
arrested in Georgia.
Speaker 4: So they're like, okay, she's in Georgia.
Speaker 3: And then we cut to seeing Jamie and Marion, and
Jamie had just picked Marian up from jail, and Jamie's like,
you need to be better with people because you got
arrested for having an attitude, And I was like, this
is stupid because Jamie is white, yeah, and I feel
like she is like obviously doesn't understand that. It probably
didn't matter if she had an attitude or not. He
was like, who is this non white woman walking in
my town?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And so anyway, then they see a sign for Gary Channel,
who as a senator running for re election, very Republican vibes,
and it's Matt Damon.
Speaker 4: Yes, Matt Damon, it is okay, And then the tire.
Speaker 3: Gets messed up and they're like like, go off the road,
and they're trying to get a spare, and that's when
they see that there's like a hidden briefcase under there
in the trunk, and underneath that is a bag with
like dry ice or whatever. And then Jamie's like, we
shouldn't open the box. And I was thinking of seven
when Brad.
Speaker 4: Pitt is.
Speaker 3: You know, it was also ahead it was Pedro Pascal's
slash s head. So they're like, well, what the fuck?
And then we see we cut to the soccer team
house and the bad guys like got there. They found
out that they had hung out there, and so they
are like asking them questions and they're like, what were
you doing last night?
Speaker 4: And they're like, we were making out and they're like,
who are you making out with? And they're like ha
ha ha.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just weird. And I also wrote
why is no one afraid of being hate crimed? And
I feel like this maybe is me being old, but
Tricia Cookie is older than me, because I feel like
kind of like a fear around like straight men.
Speaker 4: That I don't know.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to tell them like I was making
out with all of my friends here, like I don't know,
because I feel like there are too many stories of
since had been like raping and beating and kailing lesbians
or like women in general. So anyway, they give them
like an address to, oh, this is where Jamie and
Marion we're going to hang out at, but it's like
not the right place. They end up going to the
wrong place. So then we see Jamie and Marion at dinner.
They're trying to get up the nerve to like open
the briefcase and they open it and they're like, but
they don't show you what it is yet, so you
just see their reaction. And then they go to a
hotel and Jamie keeps talking about being a lesbian at
the front desk. She's like a place for lesbians because
I'm a lesbian and she has like a rainbow card
or something and she's like the Lesbians Organization or whatever.
Speaker 4: So I thought that was kind of funny.
Speaker 3: But so then Jamie decides to call Suki because she's
a cop, and she tells them. Sukie's like, oh, is
this about the two guys that were like looking for you?
And Jamie's like, uh what, No, I didn't know that.
But also, I can help you break a murder case.
Go to Curly's drive away and ask about the attache
slash briefcase. So she does end up checking it out
at some point, but it doesn't come of anything because
she's kind of a shitty cop. Like literally Curly is
in there like on the ground.
Speaker 2: Her, I know, she literally looks in the windows just
like oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's just like Jamie leading me on a wild
goose chase basically. And so the bad guys end up
finding out that the girls are at that hotel in
tallahas To because Jamie used her gay credit card, so
they're like headed to go find them, and then Jamie
and Marian are having dinner at like the nice restaurant
that's like inside the hotel, and I was like, it's
so a date, like it's giving date vibes. It is.
And then Jamie's saying very sexual things and asking Marian
to have sex with her right in front of the waiter,
and I feel like that's so awkward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And surprisingly Marian's just like, oh my god, wait
what because she's like, I want to wine and dine
in you, because I gets the feeling you're not just
like go back to the hotel and have sex like
I care about you, you care about me, and that's
the only way you're gonna have sex.
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, And so then they dance and Jamie is
going on and on about a giant dildo, and then
Marian kisses her.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't even remember that conversation, but that's what I wrote.
They're making out on the dance floor in Florida in
nineteen ninety nine, and so I think that again, maybe
this is me. I wish I didn't have to feel afraid,
but I would be afraid to be making out with
my wife in Florida even in now twenty twenty five,
well especially now because things are going backwards. But you know,
I would have been scared in nineteen eighty nine to two.
And so then they go back to their room and
they have sex. Jamie goes down on Marian and Marian
falls asleep as soon as she comes. So the instance, Yeah,
that's important because I feel like they're showing she's.
Speaker 2: Been like very like it's been around. That's why they
said it's been years and she that's why. That's why
Jamie was like, we need to get you late, like yes,
sat yes.
Speaker 3: And so then we we end up at some point
seeing the main bad guy or like the second to
top bad guy, the boss of the two bad guys
that are coming, is like on his way to Tallahassee.
He like is in the back of like a fancy
car and he tells the driver wake me up when
we get to Tallahassee. So we're like, oh, okay, so
he didn't just send like the two like smaller bad guys. Yes,
he's set going himself. And so then we see another
flashback of baby Marian watching the naked neighbor, and so
we're like, okay, she's dreaming, and the naked neighbor gets
out of the pool and puts cowboy boots on her
wet feet.
Speaker 4: I was like, ew, what the I don't know, that's
so gross to me.
Speaker 2: I think I did not even trying right out of
the pool put her boots on, and I was like, oh.
Speaker 4: I thought that was weird.
Speaker 3: And then then Marian wakes up and she sees that
Jamie is using a dildo on herself from the briefcase.
So the briefcase this is when we find out that
the briefcase is full of dildos and she just like
couldn't resist. She was like, I tried to wait for you,
but I couldn't. And I feel like that's part of
what was so annoying, Like, oh my god, you're like
so like crazy over phallic shaped things that you can't
even wait for your girl that would have sex with
you to wake up. Anyway, So then the bad guys
show up and they bust into the room and they
take the dildos and the head box, and then we
go to another Miley Cyrus plaster cast flashback, and so
basically what they're telling us is that Miley Cyrus the
plaster caster, made a plaster casted dildo of the Senator guy,
the Republican Senator channel. Gary Channels or whatever that they
saw the sign for of his dick, and so that
we also find out is the one that's Jamie's fave.
Speaker 4: And the one that she was using.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, this is like I
just can't help it because it's so good. It was
so crazy. Yeah, best dildo ever.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And so then the bad guys realize that they're
missing one, and they have the girls like in like
a warehouse place like bound and gagged, and the bad
guy explains the situation about the senator's penis being made
into a dildo and that that was the one that
she used. And we also find out that Santo's was
a collector of dildos. And while this is happening, a
housekeeper finds the dildo at the hotel and screams.
Speaker 4: So she's making the bed and she's like and so
then then the bad guys like freak out.
Speaker 3: One of them shoots the other two and the girls
are still like bound and then he tries to shoot them,
but he ran out of bullets.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think he like runs away, he does
or does he kill himself? I can't remember.
Speaker 2: No, No, he runs away. I think he's just like,
oh fuck, yes.
Speaker 4: He just runs away. Okay.
Speaker 3: Then the girls get out of being in the like
bind and they plan to go to the hotel and
get the dildo. And then they show us this quick
scene of Suki with the dog at the airport buying
tickets to Tallahassee, because remember she hates the dog, so
she's like, I know where she is. A child hassee
I'm gonna bring this dog to her. So Marian gets
back to the hotel, she sees the dildo. It's on
the counter like wrapped with the bow, which I think
was really nice of the housekeeper.
Speaker 2: She was mortified and then she was like oh.
Speaker 1: She was like.
Speaker 3: Then we see Jamie calling the senator and being like,
we need a million dollars and we'll give you the
dildo of your deck. And then we see Jamie and
Marian making out in the shower, and then Marian is like,
I want to make love with the senator's penis.
Speaker 2: Which is so that's the part. It's like, why do
you have to say the senators is bother me?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just thought it was so weird, Like I don't know,
I know that there are like I know that there
are like important stars that make like like there's like,
oh yeah, like their penis or like their like vagina,
Like it's like supposed to be just like Jenergy, that's
the only important Sorry no, because she's the only famous.
Speaker 4: But you, oh, she's a lesbian now, But anyway, I
don't know. I know that that's the thing.
Speaker 3: It just it wouldn't be a thing to me, and
so I'm just just a judgmental lesbian. So then we
cut to the lesbian bar. It's called she Shed, and
the senator is sitting there with a briefcase, waiting to
meet Jamie and Marion, and he starts telling them about
how like all of these penises belong to someone important,
blah blah blah. He gives them the briefcase with the money,
and then a biker lady comes up and invites them
to a basement party and they say no. So I'm like, oh,
that's sweet because I feel like she just wants to
be like Jamie now, just wants.
Speaker 2: To be with Marian.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: She's like no, not tonight.
Speaker 3: Yes, And so then we see Suki coming into the
into the Dike Bar to bring the dog she hates
for no reason and wants Jamie to take care of.
And then like they're like all kind of like outside
the bar, and the Senator had like left, but then
he comes back up with like a mask and a
gun and he tries to shoot.
Speaker 2: Them, but does to get his money back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like girl, you're well guy whatever, you're rich,
like just let them.
Speaker 2: He didn't want to let him lide.
Speaker 1: He's like, I got my dildo back and I'm also
getting my money back, yes, and so.
Speaker 3: He tries to shoot them, but Suki shoots him first.
And then and then like the head comes out of
the thing because when he got shot, he like dropped
it or something or whoever happened. They like box like
the head dropped, and then like it's rolling and then
like the dog is chasing it and so so like
that's pretty cool because like they made a million dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and the senator was exposed.
Speaker 3: Yeah okay, And then we cut to Marian and Jamie
at brunch and they're reading like the newspaper and it
talks about the senator being in trouble and then Marian
is like, I'm so sad.
Speaker 4: I wish we made a copy of his penis.
Speaker 2: Though she's like like so good.
Speaker 4: Perfect, and Jamie's like, I made two copies and I
was like, what man's penis?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I literally wrote that. I was like, so
weird that they're so obsessed with this man's panis. Literally,
So then they finally meet aunt Ellis.
Speaker 4: The whole reason that they were going to Tallahassee was
so that Marian could hang out with her aunt Ellis,
and then the aunt asks like, oh, like where are
you going to go after this or something?
Speaker 3: And Jamie is like, We're gonna go to Massachusetts because
women can get married there.
Speaker 4: To each other.
Speaker 3: And so I'm like, whoa, this is very lesbian of
her though, like there you finally like got with her,
and now she's the dick.
Speaker 2: The dildo was their like wedding ring because she's like
hers and hers, Now let's go get married.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay.
Speaker 3: So then they're like driving away in the like with
the ant to go sight seeing or whatever, and the
valet guy tries to give them their bag with the
dildos in it because apparently they forgot it, but I'm
pretty sure.
Speaker 4: They're coming back because they're obsessed with it. They're obsessed
with it, so they're I'm not going to leave their
two copies of the senators dick.
Speaker 3: So anyway, then as they're like driving away, they show
us like that it says driveway dolls, but then it
changes to dikes because they were going to originally call
it that, And I just think that's dumb because I
feel like, I don't feel like people that are not
like actually lesbians and have the struggles that come with
being a lesbian should be using the word dyke because
it's kind of like, I mean, it is a slur,
it's not kind of like a slur, but like, I
just feel like it's weird that a straight man and
his wife wanted to name their movie drive Away dikes.
It's giving very fetishy, fetishizing lesbians.
Speaker 2: And it bugs me.
Speaker 4: And I know it's suposed to be campy, but I
still critique it. So that was the end.
Speaker 3: They got to be millionaires, which is great, and they
got to have two copies of that man's penis.
Speaker 2: They probably get married.
Speaker 4: Oh and probably they're gonna get married, you.
Speaker 2: Know, house along for the ride.
Speaker 4: Yes, she was like, oh.
Speaker 3: So AnyWho, now the moment we've all been waiting for
our version of fuck Mary Kill munch merge murder. So
the options are Jamie, Marion, and Suki.
Speaker 4: What would you do?
Speaker 1: I keep making I know, I'm like, let me think
automatically off the bat, I'm killing Suki because I dislike her.
Speaker 2: I really hate her and like dogs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's in the character and she's just I
don't like her anyways. But other than like in real
life Beanie, I like her, but in this this character. No,
it's kind of hard because I do think Jamie is attractive,
but I do like Marion too. But I think I'm
going to kill Jamie and merge with Marian.
Speaker 2: I mean, no, kill two people. I'm sorry. I'm gonna
munch Jamie and merge with Mary.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna hate to kill Suki and Jamie doubles.
Speaker 2: Okay, what about you?
Speaker 4: Okay, I think I think that. Yeah. The only character
that I sort of like ish is Marian. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I am not really that attracted to her because, as
we know, I have a tiepe and Jamie fits that
type more because she's giving, like a little bit mask
in this.
Speaker 4: But I like Marian's personality more so.
Speaker 3: I would merge with Marion, I would munch Jamie, and
I would also kill Supe, even though I love Beanie.
Speaker 2: You don't want to kill Jamie too?
Speaker 3: If I could kill two, yeah, I think that's what
I'll stick with. Okay, so we're going to rate the movie.
What would you rate this movie on a scale of
one to five? Cherries a one? Me too.
Speaker 4: You know, if we were still doing point five's, I
almost would give it a one point five would do?
Speaker 2: I would give it a zero if I could, But
we do one out of five?
Speaker 4: Should? I hate it a little less?
Speaker 3: But I'm not rounding up to a two because I
don't think it's good enough for two. Therefore it's a
it's a one.
Speaker 2: It's a one.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I didn't like it, so, oh my god,
same Zi's.
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Right now, we're going to take a second little break
and then we'll come back for our WLW History segment.
Speaker 1: Welcome back and get ready for our next segment WLW History.
So the unknown fate of gay marriage, which is very
relevant right now and not in a good way.
Speaker 3: No, And it's kind of I forgot that it's actually
sort of relevant to this movie because at the we're
going to go to Massachusetts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 2: I was going to add that in there, but I
was like, no, once we like go through the recap,
we'll be like.
Speaker 4: Wait, yes, Well it worked out perfectly exact.
Speaker 1: So ten years ago, the fire for gay marriage in
the US was won in though bergerfel versus Hodge's case,
the Supreme Court voted to federally legalize gay marriage on
June twenty sixth, twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2: Yay, but also not that long ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this required all states to issue marriage licenses to
same sex couples, regardless of the specific state's opinion.
Speaker 3: Yes, so before this decision, gay marriage was legal in
some states. So, like what Jamie mentioned in the movie,
it was legal in Massachusetts first, which makes sense because
that's where Provincetown is, which is literally like the gayest town.
I've never been there, but I'd like to go, but
I've never been. I think there's so many like gay
people in Massachusetts, and it's also so it's a very
liberal state, like the a lot of the East Coast is. Yeah.
So I have on here that they legalized gay marriage
in two thousand and three, but I wanted somebody fact
check me because this movie was supposed to be in
nineteen nine and nine, and she said that women were
allowed to get married in Massachusetts.
Speaker 4: So I'm like confused.
Speaker 1: Maybe they were allowed, oh, because you know there's like
the domestic partnerships.
Speaker 4: So maybe maybe they wanted to. I don't know.
Speaker 3: So it's no surprise that our community has faced a
lot of inequity throughout the years, especially when it has
to do with marriage rights. So Angelina and I are
from California, and most people view it as a very
progressive state, which it is, but it has a rocky
history with same sex marriage rights. So basically, like the
first time that gay people were kind of able to
get married in California was in the city of San
Francisco in two thousand and four. The mayor was Gavin
Newsom at the time. He's now our governor. He basically
like directed the clerks at the city to start issuing
marriage licenses to same sex couples.
Speaker 4: He was like, it's fine, just do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So a bunch of people got married, which is
really cool. But the marriages ended up being a voided
at some point because the Feds whatever were like, he
didn't have the authority to do that, and so they said,
they said no. And then it was legalized for like
a really short time in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 4: May two thousand and eight, and so I remember that happening.
Speaker 3: I want to say that this is when Ellen and
Portia got married, but they might have gotten married in
two thousand and four, but then it was like voided
and then they got then they did it again.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know. I remember.
Speaker 3: I just remember, okay, because I've said how old I
am before, So I was eighteen in two thousand and eight.
So I remember that people were getting married in like
early early two thousand and eight. But then this Proposition
eight came out, which was like a huge deal. It
was a proposition literally the point of it was to
ban gay marriage in California, and so I was introduced
that same year two thousand and eight and.
Speaker 4: It fucking passed.
Speaker 3: And I remember being so upset because I, like most
people from outside of California, and a lot of people
from California, thought like, this is California, like this San
Francisco is here, La is here, Like I know that,
like there are like really red pockets, but the very
heavily populated air are like pretty gay. So I was like,
how the fuck is this going to pass? And also
this was like fucked up for me because this would
have been the first time I was allowed to vote.
But this is when I moved to New Hampshire for
six months, and so I moved in August of two
thousand and eight, and I moved back in February two
thousand and nine, so I missed being able to vote.
I also didn't get to vote for Obama in the
first election because I had moved at like a weird
time and I didn't register to vote fast enough.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I was eighteen, I was stupid.
Speaker 3: But also just want to say, we found out that
gay marriage was not legalized in Massachusetts until two thousand
and four, So just another stupid thing about this movie.
Speaker 4: They were wrong, wrong, like literally way wrong, like five
years wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, idiots, it's because because the people that made it
are not gay, so why the fuck would they know
about it?
Speaker 4: And they don't care.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, it sounds like it's an okay time.
Speaker 2: It's really weird, and.
Speaker 4: So PROPA eight passed. That was crazy.
Speaker 3: The fight continued as many people in California argued probably
was unconstitutional, and a judge in twenty ten agreed and
propaate was overturned, but it didn't automatically give Californians the
right to marry. The determination was actually stayed until twenty thirteen. Yeah,
so there were quite a few states before us.
Speaker 2: There were, which is.
Speaker 1: So surprising when you would think, like, okay, California, you know,
we're a little behind here. But yeah, so, as we
all know, or if you didn't know, the Supreme Court
has been formally asked to revisit its ruling on gay
marriage by none other than Kim Davis, the former county
clerk that literally got in trouble for denying same sex
couples their marriage licenses because she's like, oh my god,
this is against my beliefs in the Bible, and I've
been married four times. It's okay though, because I'm a
straight woman. I've been married four times. But it's okay
because it's two men.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's totally okay, Like ohay, hey girl, But which
is so crazy. They're like, not on my not, but
that's just so crazy.
Speaker 3: And she's like, if we should be like making things illegal,
can we make her weird eighties bangs like illegal? Because
why is she still rocking in these eighty bank eighties
banks in Like.
Speaker 1: She's she's stuck in a certain time. Yeah, but so,
I mean, some people would find this surprising. Others may
not find this surprising at all because after ROVERSUS weighed,
we all knew other rollings were coming to be revisited
as well, which.
Speaker 2: Sucks for real.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I yeah.
Speaker 3: I had a lot of people saying that I was
being dramatic that they're not going to comfor gay marriage,
you know, like my family that voted for Trump being like,
this is not a vote against you. I'm like, how
is this not a vote against me? I'm a lesbian
married to a lesbian Mexican American woman. You voted for
someone that fucking hates Mexicans and is literally trying to
take people who were born here and somehow get rid
of their citizenship and also get rid of gay marriage, like.
Speaker 2: Just women in general and just women's rights.
Speaker 4: I'm a woman, Yeah, yeah, it's crazy, crazy.
Speaker 3: So any who, last year, California voted to protect gay
marriage rights with Prop three, and that was a constitutional
amendment that I don't know. I think this word is
pronounced codify, but I think it should be codify, But
it's codify. So it codifies the right to marry regardless
of sex or race. So we are safe in California,
but other states are at risk of not being able
to get married if the Supreme Court decides to overturn
Obergefell versus Hodges and give it back to the states,
give the power back to the states to decide. Like,
think of all of the states that didn't want to
give gay people the right to marry in the first
place ten years ago.
Speaker 4: They're all they're just waiting. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: And so this would be obviously a huge step backwards
for our community and for the country as a whole.
And the fight for LGBTQ rights is not over, and
unfortunately still includes fighting for our right to marry that
we literally got ten years ago, and we have to
fight for it.
Speaker 4: Again like it's constant. So yeah, AnyWho, So this.
Speaker 1: Is this segment obviously is very close to both of
us being lesbian women, but especially for you because you
and who are married. So you guys got married into
twenty twenty three. I was gonna say two thousand and
three when I was thirteen. Yeah, you guys get married.
Speaker 2: Did you worry that you wouldn't be able to get
married under the Trump administration?
Speaker 4: Was that like the main Yes, Okay, that's kind of
like why we got married.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, we love each other and we knew
that we were going to like be together forever, but
we never like wanted to have a wedding and so
we were like engaged technically since twenty twenty, but we
were engaged in our hurts since twenty thirteen or whatever, right,
But like we decided to actually do it to just
Elope in twenty twenty three because we knew that the
Trump administration was going to probably happen again and we
were scared that they would take the right away before
we could do it.
Speaker 4: So so that is a big part of why we
did it.
Speaker 1: And let me just say you were valid for that
because yeah, people told me I was being dramatic, and
it was like we were You're like, really, was I dramatic? Yeah?
So what was your experience with PROP eight? You mentioned
you were eighteen at the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I it was.
Speaker 3: It was such a big guilt to me because I
remember I don't know if you remember this because you
were like a kid, but.
Speaker 2: I only remember it being like vote yes for propects,
the vote for stickers.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember everyone's saying Propy and I was like,
I have no idea what this is. So I asked
my mom if she was just like explaining to me,
and I was like, oh, that's crazy. Like well, I
mean obviously I was eight, but I was still like
that's crazy. Yes, it is crazy, because why do we care?
Speaker 3: Yes, I remember, and I saw someone like literally like
last year that still had a bumper sticker, Yes on
Propy bumper sticker, and it the bumper sticker was what
I remember seeing in two thousand and eight. It was
I feel like it was kind of yellow, but and
it had like a like a man and a woman
like stick figure or whatever, and it's like, yes on Propy,
protect traditional marriage or protect traditional families. And I was
like ew, And also I want to tell you in
two thousand and eight, this was when I I was
just a very strong ally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say you were very upset.
Speaker 4: I was so upset even though it would not impact me.
Speaker 3: This was also the same time period where I found
out that some states didn't allow gay couples to adopt,
and I was really upset about it, and my stepdad
was like, well, I don't think gay couple should be
able to adopt. And I was like what, and he
was like, well, yeah, because it's not normal, like kids
should grow up with something normal.
Speaker 4: And I got really mad and I stormed upstairs and
like slammed the door.
Speaker 3: Anyway, like six months later, when I came out, he's like, oh,
is that why you were so mad?
Speaker 4: And I was like, well I would oh even it
didn't affect me. But I was extra mad because I
was like, oh, you don't think I deserve to have
a family.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. He's like, oh, that makes sense. Yeah, you
were just a lesbian, so that's what you were mad at.
Speaker 4: I was mad no matter what.
Speaker 3: Also, I thought it was crazy because and you know,
just because you have someone in your family that is
like gay or whatever doesn't mean that you are accepting,
but I would hope that he would have a better understanding.
Speaker 4: He has a trans brother.
Speaker 3: The transition like the eighties or nineties, and so I
thought he, of all people would be like you more
like accepting, but he wasn't.
Speaker 4: So anyway, Yeah, that I couldn't vote on it, and
I was shocked that it passed.
Speaker 1: So that is I mean, yeah, I don't blame you,
but that must Yeah, So I know it's kind of hard.
But do you have any advice to viewers on how
to survive the Trump administration as a woman and a lesbian.
Speaker 3: Well, my first advice is if you are thinking about
marrying your partner already, not if you just met somebody
in you're life, like let's go get married now. No,
but like if you've been together for a while and
you've been thinking, like we want to get married, you know,
for whatever reasons. If it's like legal reasons, that's completely valid.
That's a lot of why we got married, because like,
you know, why does a piece of paper matter so much?
We love each other, we know we're going to be
together forever, but like it does matter because it's like
we have a home together, we have animals together, we
I want to be the family that they call when
she's in the hospital, because we got in a car
accident and they were like technically not allowed to tell
me what was going on with her. They had to
ask her parents before we were married, so it was
like weird. So anyway, do it if you are already
contemplating it, because they might take it away, especially if
you're in a state not like California where it's been protected.
And other than that, I feel like we just have
to keep having hope and like sharing our truth and.
Speaker 4: You know, being like honesty and not.
Speaker 3: I talked about a lot about being afraid of like
hate crimes and stuff, which I am afraid, but I
also think it's important if you're safe to be like
the be the voice, and like, especially like for younger people,
to them maybe even more scared, Like just.
Speaker 4: Try to have hope.
Speaker 2: I guess that's hard, but try to have hope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this this is really the only thing we can
do and survive these next years if you know, yeah,
we'll see.
Speaker 2: It doesn't turn into a dictatorship.
Speaker 3: Guys. I know everybody keeps being like, oh, it's only
three more years, and I'm like, sorry, I don't have.
Speaker 4: Eight hats. Yes, I don't think they're going to give
it up. So anyhow, that's I hope y. Did you
have any other thoughts that you wanted to share about this.
I don't want to put you on this, I think no.
Speaker 1: Just I think what you said was good, especially if
you are in a state that is there's a fear
that you might not be able to get married if
gay marriage the ruling is overturned, especially if you are
already thinking about it, like Caitlyn said, don't.
Speaker 2: Just you know, guard there somebody friendly, you know.
Speaker 1: But I think that is good advice, and just to
if you are in a safe space, that's important to
be able to be who you are and to use your.
Speaker 2: Voice and use your use your privilege. If you're a
white person, hit it does not matter. You love privilege.
Speaker 4: I use whatever privilege that you have.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 3: That was another thing that I've been hearing about in California,
white women putting like Mexican flags or something to distract
Ice because Ice is obviously being racist. Like they're just like, oh,
this person has a Mexican flag. Oh, this person is brown.
Oh this person is listening to Mexican music.
Speaker 2: Oh, they're speaking Spanish.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, so it's yeah, so I need to Well, no,
I can't do that because my wife is Mexican. I
was like, oh no, you can't do my car. No,
that wouldn't work. But never mind, but use your privilege
for good exactly.
Speaker 3: So AnyWho, this episode might have ran a little long,
but I think we covered really important topics, even though
we also covered a movie we hated. Yeah, thank you
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