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<v Speaker 3>and Angelina. Get ready for some sapphik serotonin. Okay, so

<v Speaker 3>this time on this episode, we are going to discuss

<v Speaker 3>the groundbreaking nineteen eighty six film Desert Hearts. So this

<v Speaker 3>movie has a bit of an age gap in the

<v Speaker 3>main relationship. How do you feel about lesbian age gap films, Sanjelina.

<v Speaker 2>I think it depends.

<v Speaker 1>Like I know, we had previous talked about Carol, and

<v Speaker 1>that's a really huge age gap. I don't think I

<v Speaker 1>thought about age gaps when I was younger, because I'm like, yeah,

<v Speaker 1>I'm young and I get to date older people, so

<v Speaker 1>who cares. But then as I got older, I'm like, yeah,

<v Speaker 1>that is weird. So I think it depends on the age, right,

<v Speaker 1>And I think they said ten years correct.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, this I think because of like the style. Yeah,

<v Speaker 3>she looked a lot more than ten years older to me.

<v Speaker 3>She looked way older than thirty five. Okay, yeah, the

<v Speaker 3>older character. But I had seen this before and I

<v Speaker 3>remember thinking it was a way bigger age gap, but

<v Speaker 3>thirty seeing it now, I'm like, okay, twenty five and

<v Speaker 3>thirty five, it's not like that big of a Yeah.

<v Speaker 3>I think I get like more weirded out when it's

<v Speaker 3>like fifteen years or more, or if someone is really young,

<v Speaker 3>like if someone's eighteen, that.

<v Speaker 1>Is eighteen twenty and they're like forty fifteen, and it's like.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's weird. I'll tell you some of my lore.

<v Speaker 3>My dad married someone younger than me and it's gross.

<v Speaker 3>And so I have an issue with age gap relationships

<v Speaker 3>because I think of my dad being a grown man

<v Speaker 3>and dating a nineteen year old, you know. And I've

<v Speaker 3>heard people say, oh, if it's women, it's different, like

<v Speaker 3>if it's lesbians, I don't think it's different. I think

<v Speaker 3>if it's like a fifty year old woman and like

<v Speaker 3>a twenty two year old woman, I think that makes

<v Speaker 3>me uncomfortable. I think there is kind of like power

<v Speaker 3>dynamic issues often, but it's their business if they're doing

<v Speaker 3>it in their life, but if it's in a movie,

<v Speaker 3>I'm allowed to comment on it and say what I

<v Speaker 3>think about it, and that's why I don't like Carol

<v Speaker 3>and that is also I think it's I think it's Bloomington.

<v Speaker 3>Another one. I think in that one, she's like a

<v Speaker 3>professor and then the girl is really like young and

<v Speaker 3>was her student. I don't like that either.

<v Speaker 2>I want to say, there's another one too.

<v Speaker 3>There's a lot.

<v Speaker 1>There's a lot where the girl is like barely going

<v Speaker 1>to be legal, and then the other one's like thirties forties,

<v Speaker 1>and yeah, like it's it's just weird.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a lot of books like that too. I

<v Speaker 3>think it's a really common like thing. I don't know

<v Speaker 3>with women. Women that love women is like being really

<v Speaker 3>into like age gaping. Yeah, I don't know, I do

<v Speaker 3>see it. It's so funny because I used to always

<v Speaker 3>like joke with my wife because we're literally the same age.

<v Speaker 3>She's like two and a half weeks older than me,

<v Speaker 3>but she would always talk about like women that were

<v Speaker 3>like in their thirties at the time, and this is

<v Speaker 3>when we were like twenty two being really hot, and

<v Speaker 3>so I would always joke about her liking milks. But

<v Speaker 3>I feel like she really does. Also, now I'm milf age.

<v Speaker 3>So it's okay, but like it's so funny because as

<v Speaker 3>we've gotten older, the women she's attracted to are getting

<v Speaker 3>even older. Like she's like like it's just like, damn,

<v Speaker 3>what's the uh what's the one girl from nine to

<v Speaker 3>one one Angelic Angela Bassett. Yes, she's so hot, she's

<v Speaker 3>like sixty something. She is here. And then the woman

<v Speaker 3>from ted Lasso, the tall blonde lady. Her name is

<v Speaker 3>like Hannah Wattingham. I mean I could see this, yeah yeah,

<v Speaker 3>she's like she's I love her. I love this tall

<v Speaker 3>woman like I love yeah. So yeah, I'm like, okay,

<v Speaker 3>she she has a type and it's older women. But

<v Speaker 3>I'm two and a half weeks younger than her. But

<v Speaker 3>I'm white, so I age like milk and she's not white,

<v Speaker 3>so I'm gonna look older than her, like our whole lives.

<v Speaker 3>So it's a good thing she's attracted the older women.

<v Speaker 3>No one comment that I look old, please, I'll be offended.

<v Speaker 1>So when you're literally twenty five, so I don't know

<v Speaker 1>what you're talking.

<v Speaker 3>About, like those typtoks that are like it's so weird

<v Speaker 3>that people born in two thousand are twenty five because

<v Speaker 3>I was born in nineteen ninety and I'm also twenty five.

<v Speaker 3>How is it possible? So okay, we're gonna do our

<v Speaker 3>hot takes or burning desires, and I'm curious to hear

<v Speaker 3>what yours is?

<v Speaker 1>So mine for this one is And I know I

<v Speaker 1>feel it feels I feel like I feel like it's

<v Speaker 1>so boring. But I wish that it ended with them

<v Speaker 1>being together definitely, rather than it being like, well, I'll

<v Speaker 1>just go with you, not just like ride with you

<v Speaker 1>until the next stop.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hope I hoped. I took it

<v Speaker 3>to mean, well, it's like up for interpretation, but I

<v Speaker 3>took it to mean that she probably never.

<v Speaker 2>Actually got off. Yes, but I like when it's like

<v Speaker 2>happy ending.

<v Speaker 3>Yay, like it's funny because that funny. But you know

<v Speaker 3>what like a happy ending is? Yeah, okay, every day,

<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I love happy guys.

<v Speaker 2>And that's why I say, specifically in lesbian gay.

<v Speaker 3>Movie in the movies, are.

<v Speaker 2>Not the massage because you can do that?

<v Speaker 3>Yeah? No, no, because those women are being trafficked. And

<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna tell you that you should probably not

<v Speaker 3>support that. If you are, they probably are not choosing

<v Speaker 3>to do that telling you because I thought on another

<v Speaker 3>lesbian podcast they were talking about going through a massage. Yeah,

<v Speaker 3>I remember you purposely getting a happy ending from another woman,

<v Speaker 3>and I feel like maybe the woman that had to

<v Speaker 3>do it was like a little happier because it wasn't

<v Speaker 3>a gross man. But she probably doesn't want to do this,

<v Speaker 3>like in general, she's like likely being trafficked. And that

<v Speaker 3>made me sad anyway, So okay, my hot take was

<v Speaker 3>that they did a really bad job making it look

<v Speaker 3>like it was the late fifties because it looked like

<v Speaker 3>the eighties to me, and it was made in the

<v Speaker 3>eighties the whole time I watched it. Before I watched

<v Speaker 3>this movie before, like years ago, I thought it was

<v Speaker 3>set in the eighties.

<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's what I thought.

<v Speaker 3>They have eighties hair, they're wearing mainly eighties clothes, and

<v Speaker 3>then the only person that looks not eighties is the

<v Speaker 3>older woman. It's only thirty five, but she looked like

<v Speaker 3>she was like fifty. But I think it's because she

<v Speaker 3>was dressed like it was the fifties and everybody else

<v Speaker 3>was dressed like it was the late seventies early eighties.

<v Speaker 3>So I was like, what the fuck, Like, what is

<v Speaker 3>this time period. Yeah, it was really weird. Like I

<v Speaker 3>don't know. I wasn't alive in either of those time periods,

<v Speaker 3>So maybe I'm wrong because I only know from like

<v Speaker 3>seeing movies and stuff from that time. But I don't

<v Speaker 3>think that people in the late fifties had the big

<v Speaker 3>like eighties hair with the bangs. I don't think they

<v Speaker 3>had they had like the Bufont things, yeah or whatever.

<v Speaker 3>I think that they did not have the hair that

<v Speaker 3>they looked almost like they had like maybe late seventies

<v Speaker 3>like fair faucet type of hair, but that was not

<v Speaker 3>in nineteen fifty nine, so I was like, what are

<v Speaker 3>they doing? But it was kind of a little budget. Yeah, AnyWho,

<v Speaker 3>that was my hot take. Oh I have another hot take,

<v Speaker 3>and I I don't know, I don't know how people

<v Speaker 3>feel about this, but I'm gonna share it. I think

<v Speaker 3>that the scene where they finally like have sex was

<v Speaker 3>kind of not consent was not given for the younger

<v Speaker 3>one to like take her top off and be like

<v Speaker 3>naked in the bed. The girl said she wasn't like

<v Speaker 3>into it, and then she basically was like, you know

<v Speaker 3>you want it and like took her top off. And

<v Speaker 3>I don't know if we were supposed to think that's hot.

<v Speaker 3>But I didn't think it was hot because I mean,

<v Speaker 3>her boobs were big, but I didn't think that it

<v Speaker 3>was like I thought it was uncomfortable because I was like,

<v Speaker 3>is this like this is like on the edge of

<v Speaker 3>non consent and I didn't like that. But I think

<v Speaker 3>maybe at the time it was like, oh, this is

<v Speaker 3>okay because it's women. It's not okay okay AnyWho. I

<v Speaker 3>don't know, so uh we uh will. I almost went

<v Speaker 3>right into the thing.

<v Speaker 2>I was like, y'all get into this recap.

<v Speaker 3>I gotta talk about this, so it's time for a

<v Speaker 3>quick break. It's just enough time to apply some more

<v Speaker 3>chapstick if you're a chopstick lesbian. When we get back,

<v Speaker 3>we will dive into the recap and review.

<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to But I'm a Lesbian. This week we

<v Speaker 1>are discussing Desert Hearts, known as the first feature film

<v Speaker 1>to desensationalize lesbianism by portraying a positive WLW love story.

<v Speaker 3>Yes, so yeah, I had seen this movie one time before,

<v Speaker 3>like years ago, but I think I like halfway paid attention.

<v Speaker 3>I just felt like it was a movie that I

<v Speaker 3>needed to see because I had heard about it because

<v Speaker 3>it's like a classic. It's from the eighties. You have

<v Speaker 3>to watch like that's like a big deal. Yeah yeah,

<v Speaker 3>But you know, this time I rewatched it, I paid

<v Speaker 3>more attention. So that's how I found out that it's

<v Speaker 3>set in nineteen fifty nine, not in the eighties. So

<v Speaker 3>the movie starts at a train station and it tells

<v Speaker 3>you that it's nineteen fifty nine and it's in Reno, Nevada.

<v Speaker 3>So I want to say that I love vintage lesbians.

<v Speaker 3>Have we done any anything set farther back than like.

<v Speaker 2>The nineties before it happened?

<v Speaker 3>Okay, I love I love that. I know, like we'll

<v Speaker 3>talk about Tipping the Velvet, but that was like my

<v Speaker 3>favorite book ever. It's like eighteen hundreds lesbians. They have

<v Speaker 3>well I'm not going to tell you guys about the

<v Speaker 3>sexties anywhow tell us, Well, they have like a strap on,

<v Speaker 3>but it's like made out of leather. I mean, because

<v Speaker 3>strap ones have existed for like ever. But I don't

<v Speaker 3>know that I would want leather. Well, I'm vegan, so

<v Speaker 3>I definitely wouldn't want leather in my poo. But I mean,

<v Speaker 3>I guess, I guess at the time, if that's all

<v Speaker 3>they have to be. You had to be you couldn't

<v Speaker 3>be vegan. So anyway, it was interesting. I just remember

<v Speaker 3>being like, oh my, like wow. So we see at

<v Speaker 3>the train station a fancy lady with a suit and

<v Speaker 3>a hat and she just got to Reno. We find

<v Speaker 3>out that she is a professor, so she's like a

<v Speaker 3>fancy career woman, which I think was extra special in

<v Speaker 3>nineteen fifty nine. Yeah, and uh, she is getting divorced,

<v Speaker 3>is what we find out. So she like went to Reno.

<v Speaker 3>I don't really fully understand why she went to Reno.

<v Speaker 3>I think just to like recollect herself.

<v Speaker 1>Apparently, or the waker to get it done about something

<v Speaker 1>about them being separated. That was like the entire point

<v Speaker 1>if we're going But I don't really understand why.

<v Speaker 3>Okay, well something. I mean it was probably really hard

<v Speaker 3>to get a divorce.

<v Speaker 2>In so that was like kind of a little loophole. Okay, yeah.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So she's meeting this woman at the train station

<v Speaker 3>and it's funny because this woman kind of turns out

<v Speaker 3>to be homophobic, but she looks like a lesbian. And

<v Speaker 3>when he first showed her, my wife was like, oh,

<v Speaker 3>is that the lesbian? I was like, no, the lesbian

<v Speaker 3>is younger, not older. So anyway, she meets this this

<v Speaker 3>woman that is I guess kind of going to be

<v Speaker 3>like her landlord, like she's renting a room from her.

<v Speaker 3>And her name is Francis, and she's not a lesbian.

<v Speaker 3>She is a straight and she I wrote she's a widow.

<v Speaker 3>But then we find out later that she was never

<v Speaker 3>married to her boyfriend, right yeah, and she used to

<v Speaker 3>be a dancer. So she because she's like, it reminds

<v Speaker 3>me of like my grandma the Yeah, she's like, that's

<v Speaker 3>where I used to dance, Like you know, I used

<v Speaker 3>to be like so hot. That's what I was giving.

<v Speaker 3>And so she's like, yeah, my girl works at this

<v Speaker 3>casino over here. And I was like, oh, is she

<v Speaker 3>a little man? What does she mean her girl? But

<v Speaker 3>she means like her sort of daughter because basically we

<v Speaker 3>find out that she has her son's her son's dad

<v Speaker 3>is also the dad of Kay, who will be the

<v Speaker 3>main character. So she was kind of like her stepmom

<v Speaker 3>but not officially official, but they all like live on

<v Speaker 3>the same like ranch together, and so her girl she's

<v Speaker 3>talking about is basically like her stepdaughter Kay. And then oh, yeah,

<v Speaker 3>I wanted to say that, uh, this is based on

<v Speaker 3>a novel called Desert of the Heart. It'said that at

<v Speaker 3>the beginning of the movie, and I was like, Okay,

<v Speaker 3>maybe I'll read it.

<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's maybe we'll be better.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, And so, uh, while Francis and the fancy

<v Speaker 3>lady that's getting divorced are driving to the ranch, we

<v Speaker 3>find out that the lady's name is Vivian Bell, which

<v Speaker 3>is like such a like fancy Hollywood sounding name. And

<v Speaker 3>then we see this younger woman like driving down the

<v Speaker 3>street and she like backs up, and so I think

<v Speaker 3>we're supposed to be like, oh my god, she's kind

<v Speaker 3>of reckless, right like, and she's like talking to them,

<v Speaker 3>and like, I don't know if we're supposed to be

<v Speaker 3>able to tell she's a lesbian. I don't know. I

<v Speaker 3>thought she was like a ranch lady. Yeah, a ranch

<v Speaker 3>young woman, A young ranch woman. I don't know she

<v Speaker 3>has a young rancher, a young ranch woman that is

<v Speaker 3>a lesbian. Sorry okay. And so then when they get

<v Speaker 3>to the ranch, we see like the son who is

<v Speaker 3>like probably.

<v Speaker 2>Like eighteen or yeah, he was like really young.

<v Speaker 3>He's like I think technically an adult, but he's like

<v Speaker 3>the young young boy living with his mom still and

<v Speaker 3>I feel like, I said, right, bro, I feel like

<v Speaker 3>he is being creepy. And he was like, oh, you're

<v Speaker 3>younger than I thought you were going to be. And

<v Speaker 3>then when she walks away, he's like looking at her,

<v Speaker 3>but yeah, he's like wow, He's like, oh damn. And

<v Speaker 3>uh So, then Vivian goes to her room and she's

<v Speaker 3>taking off her clothes, probably because it's fucking hot in

<v Speaker 3>Reno and like the desert, and she's she's wondering why

<v Speaker 3>she didn't stay at a hotel. I don't know if

<v Speaker 3>she said.

<v Speaker 2>That out loud. She did. She was like, why did

<v Speaker 2>I get a hotel?

<v Speaker 3>She's like, but I'm like, how do I know that

<v Speaker 3>she thought that.

<v Speaker 2>You were her for a second.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was like, she's thinking, what the fuck? And

<v Speaker 3>so she hears like horses outside, and then we cut

<v Speaker 3>to the young the young lesbian that they showed before,

<v Speaker 3>the young ranch woman. Her name is Kay, and we

<v Speaker 3>cut to her being at work and so she's at

<v Speaker 3>the casino. So then we're like, Okay, we're confirming this

<v Speaker 3>is the girl.

<v Speaker 2>This is the girl.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and this is kind of weird. I thought it's

<v Speaker 3>like she's in the locker room because they like work

<v Speaker 3>at a casino and kind of like cocktail waitresses or whatever.

<v Speaker 3>And then this like older woman who maybe she's not

<v Speaker 3>that much older I don't know.

<v Speaker 2>Hard to figure out in this movie.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and she had like eighties hair, is being like

<v Speaker 3>kind of like flirty with her. She's very clod like

<v Speaker 3>gets goes behind her and is like hugging her. Yes,

<v Speaker 3>I don't think she's touching her, but she was talking yeah,

<v Speaker 3>and she's.

<v Speaker 2>Like oh, like she's like, oh my god.

<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're just like they're just like hugging each other

<v Speaker 1>and they're just like so gay. Yes.

<v Speaker 3>And then she's like, oh, I'm getting married and I'm pregnant.

<v Speaker 3>Why is she being really flirting with her and telling

<v Speaker 3>her that she's getting married to a man. But anyway,

<v Speaker 3>because they're just ooh, I'm so harsh. I said, Honestly,

<v Speaker 3>she looks too old to be pregnant, so I'm confused

<v Speaker 3>she did. She did look old, that's geriatric. I don't know,

<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was a miracle.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but also did they ever show her being pregnant.

<v Speaker 3>They maybe she wasn't actually pregnant.

<v Speaker 2>Maybe she thought she was pregnant, or.

<v Speaker 3>Maybe she said maybe she didn't say she was pregnant.

<v Speaker 3>Maybe she said I'm getting married and I'm not even pregnant,

<v Speaker 3>But I thought she said no, she was too Okay. Well,

<v Speaker 3>they never showed her happy, so I guess because it

<v Speaker 3>was all supposed to take place during a summer, so

<v Speaker 3>she probably wouldn't be showing if she just found out. Anyway,

<v Speaker 3>that was rude of me, but I just I think

<v Speaker 3>that her hair and her style made her look even older. Yeah,

<v Speaker 3>and uh so then we cut back to Vivian, the

<v Speaker 3>fancy lady that's getting divorced. She's like wandering around the

<v Speaker 3>house and I was like, I have a feeling that

<v Speaker 3>she's going to meet somebody in the house because she's

<v Speaker 3>like kind of wondering in the dark, and Francis is

<v Speaker 3>in there and she's like, do you want a cup

<v Speaker 3>of tea? And she's like, no, I want some bourbon.

<v Speaker 3>So I was like, oh, she's just trying to get

<v Speaker 3>fucked though. She's like, I'm going through a lot. I

<v Speaker 3>need to get drunk. And so so that's when she

<v Speaker 3>like explains the whole situation with like how she knows

<v Speaker 3>Kay then it's she was with the dad, but she

<v Speaker 3>was never married to him, blah blah blah. And then

<v Speaker 3>we also find out that Kay is a sculptor, which

<v Speaker 3>I don't think is that much of a big part

<v Speaker 3>of the movie, but I thought it was cool. And

<v Speaker 3>at some point they do show like some of her yeah.

<v Speaker 3>And uh. Also they were like really close together and

<v Speaker 3>they were like getting drunk, and I thought they were

<v Speaker 3>gonna kiss.

<v Speaker 1>I mean you for some reason, like everyone was giving

<v Speaker 1>gay in this movie, but like not gay.

<v Speaker 2>They not gay.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know. Then they're they're just having like

<v Speaker 3>a girl talk and it does not lead to anything

<v Speaker 3>s actual. And then we cut to the next day

<v Speaker 3>and Francis is talking to these two other women that

<v Speaker 3>I think are also staying there.

<v Speaker 2>For the same exact reason.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I don't know. They're talking

<v Speaker 3>about how one of them's dating a loser. Francis really

<v Speaker 3>wants to make a raisin cream pie, and I have

<v Speaker 3>never heard of a raisin cream pie. They sound good

<v Speaker 3>to me. I do like raisins, like, I mean, I

<v Speaker 3>never crave them, but like if they're good, but I

<v Speaker 3>don't know if you would want like a creamy raisin pie.

<v Speaker 3>It sounds creamy, I like, like a chocolate.

<v Speaker 1>Sorry if that's your favorite, If anyone's listening and you

<v Speaker 1>love raisin cream.

<v Speaker 3>Vibe, I mean, they could send us a vegan version

<v Speaker 3>of a raisin cream pie and I'll try it and

<v Speaker 3>I'll talk about it if you can trove me wrong.

<v Speaker 3>But it sounds weird. It does, and so yeah, that's

<v Speaker 3>literally what I said. I was like, that sounds gross.

<v Speaker 3>So then Vivian walks over to the cabin where Ka

<v Speaker 3>lives and uh, okay, okay, Like I think this is

<v Speaker 3>the part. Vivian like answers the door, and I feel

<v Speaker 3>like there's like weird like sexual tension a little bit. Anyway,

<v Speaker 3>then she like invites her in to like see her pottery,

<v Speaker 3>but then she sees that there's a naked woman in

<v Speaker 3>her bed.

<v Speaker 1>Off.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's like, I don't know, it's kind

<v Speaker 3>of scandalous. But I also feel like she invited her

<v Speaker 3>in on purpose, like, oh, look.

<v Speaker 2>At this woman in my bed, like that could be you.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she wants you to be like I want you

<v Speaker 3>to know that I get pussy Like She's.

<v Speaker 2>Like like look at this subrime example.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, those beautiful feminine woman in bed, and so we're like, Okay,

<v Speaker 3>So I think Vivian is kind of like a little

<v Speaker 3>freak out because I don't know that she has ever

<v Speaker 3>met a lesbian before. I think so, or like she

<v Speaker 3>probably has much does a no, right, yeah, And so

<v Speaker 3>Vivian is like, oh, this is kind of weird and awkward,

<v Speaker 3>and then uh, she's like walks out, I think, and

<v Speaker 3>then uh, there's there's a ranch hand guy, and I

<v Speaker 3>think he says something kind of homophobic. He says something

<v Speaker 3>like I don't know how you get all that action

<v Speaker 3>or how you get all that traffic with no equipment

<v Speaker 3>or whatever, and it's like ill, men are so obsessed

<v Speaker 3>with their penises. They think they're like the most important thing.

<v Speaker 2>In the world.

<v Speaker 3>So I was like, gross, Yeah, I don't care about

<v Speaker 3>your penis. And then uh, later in the day, we

<v Speaker 3>see Kay driving by and Vivian is like walking like

<v Speaker 3>I feel like she's going to walk to the lawyer's

<v Speaker 3>office or no, she wasn't gonna walk. She was walking

<v Speaker 3>out to Francis's car, and Francis was going to give

<v Speaker 3>her ride to the lawyer's office. But then Kay is like,

<v Speaker 3>oh my god, I'll give you a ride.

<v Speaker 2>She has divorce.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's divorced, so we can fook. Okay, So they're

<v Speaker 3>like in this like she has like a sports car

<v Speaker 3>type of car. But then the lady, the woman that

<v Speaker 3>was in her bed, is also in the car, so

<v Speaker 3>that it's kind of awkward.

<v Speaker 2>Vivian, Yeah do that. That's so like Withosepians are weird.

<v Speaker 3>They do weird shit like that. I don't know, it's

<v Speaker 3>just okay, why okay, okay. Yeah. So then it seems

<v Speaker 3>kind of awkward because she is like in the middle

<v Speaker 3>of them when they're driving in the desert or whatever.

<v Speaker 3>And then they're like listening to like a rock and

<v Speaker 3>roll and then Kay puts on classical music, and I

<v Speaker 3>feel like she does that to like impress Vivian, because

<v Speaker 3>Vivian seems like a like a kind of like.

<v Speaker 2>A classical music.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah like that. And so Vivian when they drop her off,

<v Speaker 3>is like a little rude. She's like, uh, she says

<v Speaker 3>something about like about your friend or your friends or something,

<v Speaker 3>and I was like, okay, so is she trying to

<v Speaker 3>be like I don't want to know about gay shit?

<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but I think it's because she's secretly

<v Speaker 3>a little gay, but she doesn't even know herself.

<v Speaker 2>Like, don't bring that gay shit around me?

<v Speaker 3>Yes?

<v Speaker 2>Ever again?

<v Speaker 3>Yes? And so then they go. She goes into the

<v Speaker 3>lawyer's office by herself, and the lawyer is a weird cowboy.

<v Speaker 3>I feel like he's trying to hit on her. He's like,

<v Speaker 3>let's drink some martinis and I was like, that's weird.

<v Speaker 3>And then we cut to the locker room at the

<v Speaker 3>casino and Kay is in there and they're introducing a

<v Speaker 3>new girl. And then the boss guy asked Kay to

<v Speaker 3>come see him in his office and he's like, you know,

<v Speaker 3>I'm in love with you, and like it is trying

<v Speaker 3>to Yeah, he's like yeah. I was like, oh that

<v Speaker 3>was weird, yea. And she says like you know why,

<v Speaker 3>like we can't be together. Basically he knows that she's

<v Speaker 3>gay because he says something like I'll just look the

<v Speaker 3>other way. Like basically he's like, oh, I want you

<v Speaker 3>to be with me, but you can like fuck women

<v Speaker 3>on the side.

<v Speaker 2>He's like, as long as you're with me.

<v Speaker 3>Yes, but she's like, I don't want to be with you.

<v Speaker 2>She's like, I just want to be I only want to.

<v Speaker 3>Be with women. What the hell? And so then later

<v Speaker 3>that night, Kay and Vivia and like accidentally meet up

<v Speaker 3>in the kitchen of Francis's house and Kay is like

<v Speaker 3>stealing food basically because I feel like she just takes

<v Speaker 3>food from that fridge and puts it in her that

<v Speaker 3>she lives in, and so they kind of like caught

<v Speaker 3>each other whatever, and then Kay like spills the food

<v Speaker 3>and then they're cleaning it off of each other so loud.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah I know, I know. And also Kay is like say,

<v Speaker 3>she says something like don't wake Francis up, like don't

<v Speaker 3>be loud, but I'm like they're being loud. She's like, don't.

<v Speaker 2>Wake and then she's like dropping the fucking shoo.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, don't wake her up. Oh my god, it's so weird.

<v Speaker 3>And so Kay okay, Vivian was like, yeah, I'm up

<v Speaker 3>because like I can't sleep, and Kay's like, well, the

<v Speaker 3>next time you can't sleep, you can come by the

<v Speaker 3>cottage and we can keep each other company. And I'm like,

<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, yeah, we can justice her and not we'll

<v Speaker 3>keep us sleeping. And then Francis like wakes up and

<v Speaker 3>yells to Kay like will you bring me a coke? Yeah,

<v Speaker 3>She's like bring me up. Oh my god, I love coke,

<v Speaker 3>not cocaine. I love a Coca Cola. I'm it, are

<v Speaker 3>you a coke person or a Pepsi person?

<v Speaker 2>I like Coca Cola.

<v Speaker 3>Okay, Coke is the best. But I found out that

<v Speaker 3>they're actually a really bad company and they were like

<v Speaker 3>getting their workers supported.

<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so the boy got it until then, Yeah, h.

<v Speaker 3>What does pepsi?

<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't know about pepsi?

<v Speaker 3>Sorry, is through pepsi and I love story.

<v Speaker 2>I don't know about pep We wi't need to be factored. Okay.

<v Speaker 3>AnyWho, So then, like when Kay brings the the coke

<v Speaker 3>in there, there's like this weird moment where she and

<v Speaker 3>Francis are snuggling and yeah, I thought that was uncomfortable,

<v Speaker 3>but I don't know, maybe that's just me, Like, no,

<v Speaker 3>it was uncomfortable piling each other's hair. Yeah, I like

<v Speaker 3>twirling K's hair and then pulls her into snuggle with

<v Speaker 3>her and then she Ye.

<v Speaker 1>I felt like the entire scene was very weird between them,

<v Speaker 1>but there was also that weird interaction with her and

<v Speaker 1>her other coworker, which I was.

<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, I don't know, they trying to be like

<v Speaker 3>women are touchy with each other and that's normal, but

<v Speaker 3>some people are lesbian's because I'm not touchy with people

<v Speaker 3>except for like my wife, So I don't know. And

<v Speaker 3>then in the morning, we see in Vivian is inside

<v Speaker 3>her room. She's like riding writing and she hears a

<v Speaker 3>horse outside and it's Kay, and she's like, come out

<v Speaker 3>and ride horses with me and so, but they're not

<v Speaker 3>riding horses. They're like walking the horses when they show them,

<v Speaker 3>and they're having like a deep conversation like out on

<v Speaker 3>the ranch with the horses, and and Kay says something

<v Speaker 3>like most people don't really know me. And I said,

<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's because she is giving like early

<v Speaker 3>fuck boy lesbian vibes to me. That's true. But she

<v Speaker 3>says she doesn't want to be like this. She wants

<v Speaker 3>to find a real love. And then and they kind

<v Speaker 3>of do like a montage of them being away from

<v Speaker 3>each other, but like kind of like looking like they're

<v Speaker 3>year name for each other. Yeah, they're like, okay, they

<v Speaker 3>love each other. And then later that night, after the shift,

<v Speaker 3>the older woman who we find out is named sil

<v Speaker 3>Or Silver, she invites Kay over to like have dinner

<v Speaker 3>with her and her fiance, and the fiance is cooking

<v Speaker 3>food and the two women so o kay and still

<v Speaker 3>are in the bathtub and they're naked. Yeah, I think

<v Speaker 3>I thought that's so weird too.

<v Speaker 2>I'm literally I'm like, okay, I'm sorry. Do you bathe

<v Speaker 2>with your friends?

<v Speaker 3>Not like that?

<v Speaker 2>I know, but I'm like, that's so weird. I don't

<v Speaker 2>do that.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I bathed with my friends when I was like,

<v Speaker 3>when you were young. Yeah, like not as a grown

<v Speaker 3>up that as.

<v Speaker 2>A grown up, fully grown up daughter. Okay, you know what, Maybe.

<v Speaker 1>We get everyone has different preferences boundaries. That's okay, But

<v Speaker 1>personally for us.

<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't do that, especially if I had a fiance,

<v Speaker 3>unless unless he's open, he doesn't well okay, then I

<v Speaker 3>thought this was interesting. Yeah, the fiance comes in and

<v Speaker 3>he's like, man, what is it like to be beautiful women?

<v Speaker 3>I really want to experience what it would be like

<v Speaker 3>to be a beautiful woman, like maybe I'll be reincarnated.

<v Speaker 3>And so I thought, maybe he's trans It doesn't have

<v Speaker 3>the words for it, because it's like the fifties, because

<v Speaker 3>he seems like not like I want to fuck the

<v Speaker 3>beautiful women. It's just like I wonder he liked to

<v Speaker 3>be and be like a hot woman in a tub

<v Speaker 3>with another hot.

<v Speaker 2>Woman, like I don't know, Oh my god.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that was interesting. And so I like that

<v Speaker 3>because he wasn't creepy towards that. My thought he was

<v Speaker 3>going to walk in and be a creep and be

<v Speaker 3>like John and he wasn't, so I was glad, and

<v Speaker 3>so yeah, I wrote a lot about that because I

<v Speaker 3>thought that was interesting. Then we see at the house,

<v Speaker 3>the Francis's house, Francis and Vivian are watching a movie

<v Speaker 3>and it's basically Francis is trying to tell Vivian like

<v Speaker 3>not to hang out with K and not to get

<v Speaker 3>with K. And I said, I feel like that's because

<v Speaker 3>Ka is the last thing that she has of the dad,

<v Speaker 3>and she doesn't want her to find love because she'll

<v Speaker 3>leave her. She wants her to be there forever she does.

<v Speaker 3>And I feel like she kind of confirms that later

<v Speaker 3>that she's like.

<v Speaker 2>She's like, you're literally the last thing I have.

<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

<v Speaker 3>Yes, And so then we have this cute little like

<v Speaker 3>montage of K and Vivian shopping and they're being kind

<v Speaker 3>of flirty, which is cute, and then then they go

<v Speaker 3>to a bar, which I think it ends up being

<v Speaker 3>the bar in the casino that she works at, and

<v Speaker 3>I think she ends up working later because I'm like,

<v Speaker 3>why why would she just want to day.

<v Speaker 1>Off to the bar that you work That's probably like

<v Speaker 1>the only thing they have to do that's like fun

<v Speaker 1>there there's.

<v Speaker 3>No other casino, like, we just have to go to

<v Speaker 3>this bar. This is this is the best one. And

<v Speaker 3>then the boss guy that's obsessed with Kay shows up

<v Speaker 3>and he's being weird and creepy. He ruins the vibe,

<v Speaker 3>and Vivian feels that he ruined the vibe, so she

<v Speaker 3>like gets up and walks away, but then Kay goes

<v Speaker 3>after her because obviously she loves her. Yeah, And then

<v Speaker 3>and then at some point, one of the other boarders,

<v Speaker 3>one of the other women that is boarding there, is

<v Speaker 3>like being homophobic and telling Vivian she shouldn't hang out

<v Speaker 3>with Kay because she's a queer. And then it seems

<v Speaker 3>that this bitch homophobe lady is hinting that she thinks

<v Speaker 3>Vivian is also queer. And I said that lady is

<v Speaker 3>a cunt, So I agree with what I said. I

<v Speaker 3>said what I said. You quoted yourself literally, she is

<v Speaker 3>a cunt and I don't like her. At some point,

<v Speaker 3>Vivian goes to visit Kate at work, and then a

<v Speaker 3>creepy old man is like having her play craps and

<v Speaker 3>she keeps winning, and so she's being like his good

<v Speaker 3>luck charm sort of, I don't know. He kisses her

<v Speaker 3>on the cheek, but then he ends up giving her

<v Speaker 3>the money that she one, which is cool because I

<v Speaker 3>mean it started up with nice money, so that's nice

<v Speaker 3>that he did that. And then later Kay goes into

<v Speaker 3>the room that Vivian's renting and like kind of like

<v Speaker 3>watches her sleep for a minute, which I think is

<v Speaker 3>really weird. I think I think she wanted to go

<v Speaker 3>in there and like talk to her, but she was asleep,

<v Speaker 3>but she's like she's so so she like looks at

<v Speaker 3>her for like a minute. But then you see after

<v Speaker 3>Kay walks out that Vivian was awake, that she did that. Yeah,

<v Speaker 3>And so then the next day, everybody is like having

<v Speaker 3>breakfast at Francis's house and Kay is there and Francis

<v Speaker 3>is like, oh, yeah, Syl's engagement party. I think it's

<v Speaker 3>Still's engagement party is happening tonight. You probably won't like

<v Speaker 3>it to Vivian, and then Vivian's like, yeah, I wasn't

<v Speaker 3>planning on going, and then Kay gets like really upset

<v Speaker 3>because she was like excited to go with her. She's

<v Speaker 3>like why not. Yeah, She's like my god, why and

<v Speaker 3>she like leaves and storms off from the room, and

<v Speaker 3>then Vivian goes outside and then the creepy young son Walter,

<v Speaker 3>is like, how are you doing? Are you okay? And

<v Speaker 3>she's like, we can take a walk, And now they're

<v Speaker 3>holding hands, which I thought was also weird.

<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was very weird, Like I don't know.

<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's weird. And Walter basically confirmed that

<v Speaker 3>Francis is jealous and doesn't want Kay to find love,

<v Speaker 3>Like I don't remember exactly how he says it, but

<v Speaker 3>he basically confirms that that is the issue, and he's

<v Speaker 3>like you should go to the party, like I'll be

<v Speaker 3>your date or something.

<v Speaker 2>Like he's with me, you know.

<v Speaker 3>So he convinces her to go, which I think is

<v Speaker 3>really sweet. So maybe he's not that creepy because I

<v Speaker 3>feel like he's kind of trying to be a wing

<v Speaker 3>man for his sibling, yeah, which is really sweet. And

<v Speaker 3>then we're at the party and still is singing on

<v Speaker 3>the stage. She's like, this is a party for me.

<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get all the entig And then Kay and

<v Speaker 3>Vivian keep like looking at each other, and at some

<v Speaker 3>point Kay and Francis are dancing, and then I feel

<v Speaker 3>like this is when she kind of tells her, like,

<v Speaker 3>you're just like him, or you look like him, something

<v Speaker 3>like that, so it's like, Okay, she's really just holding

<v Speaker 3>on to her because it reminds her of the dead dad.

<v Speaker 3>The creepy boss guy comes in and like cuts in

<v Speaker 3>to try to dance with Kay, And while this is happening,

<v Speaker 3>Vivian goes outside, or she goes to smoke a cigarette,

<v Speaker 3>and Kay keeps looking over at her because she obviously

<v Speaker 3>wants to dance with Vivian. She doesn't want to dance

<v Speaker 3>with that creepy guy that is sexually harassing her at

<v Speaker 3>her job. I wrote, She's literally a lesbian. Later that night,

<v Speaker 3>Kay is driving both of them home. So Kay and

<v Speaker 3>Vivian are in the car together and Vivian's drunk and

<v Speaker 3>Kay is driving them to like a beach and there's

<v Speaker 3>like a weird thing where Vivian said, you know, I'm

<v Speaker 3>not allowed to cross the stay line. Is that because

<v Speaker 3>she was getting a divorce and it was the fifties,

<v Speaker 3>she's not allowed to cross the state line.

<v Speaker 1>I wanted to say something to do with that, like

<v Speaker 1>she had to stay somewhere in that town in order

<v Speaker 1>for the divorce to be finalized.

<v Speaker 2>Or like legit something. Yeah, I'm along those lines.

<v Speaker 3>Okay, that makes sense. And then and then Kay is like, well,

<v Speaker 3>if any if any roles are broken, I'll take the blame.

<v Speaker 3>And I was like, okay, daddy energy.

<v Speaker 2>I was like.

<v Speaker 3>She's like, she's like, I got I'm daddy, don't worry

<v Speaker 3>about it. And so Kay confirms that she was kind

<v Speaker 3>of with the boss. She tried to convince herself that

<v Speaker 3>she could be like into him. She said something like

<v Speaker 3>I let the attention convince me that I liked something

<v Speaker 3>like that, like he was really into her, and she

<v Speaker 3>thought maybe I can make this work because he was.

<v Speaker 2>Like he's so into me.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but she's like, no, I'm a lisbian.

<v Speaker 2>She's just like I can't do that.

<v Speaker 3>But he could like not get over it, and he

<v Speaker 3>still wants to be with her. And then uh, it's

<v Speaker 3>like Vivian, I feel like she can kind of tell

<v Speaker 3>that Kay likes her, but she also likes her, but

<v Speaker 3>she's like, I'm literally straight. Like it's annoying. It makes

<v Speaker 3>me think of like I don't know, I don't think

<v Speaker 3>I've ever had this specifically happen, but I know my

<v Speaker 3>wife has. Like when she first came out, she had

<v Speaker 3>a friend that like got drunk and tried to make

<v Speaker 3>out with her, and she was like no, and she

<v Speaker 3>was like why and what was like, You're not my

<v Speaker 3>type and then she got all offended and it's like

<v Speaker 3>what the hell, Like, you're straight, why are you mad?

<v Speaker 3>You just think every lesbian wants to make out with you.

<v Speaker 3>So that's how I felt like Vivian was, but Kay

<v Speaker 3>really did want to make out with her. Yeah, and

<v Speaker 3>then they kiss they kissed through the window and yeah,

<v Speaker 3>so like Francis had like Francis, Vivian had like gone

<v Speaker 3>back in the car and then Kay is like knocking

<v Speaker 3>on the window and then she like opens it and

<v Speaker 3>then they like kissed through there and they like make out.

<v Speaker 3>I think that's all that they do.

<v Speaker 2>Yes, they just make out and then Vivian's like, oh

<v Speaker 2>my gosh, like I just I can't and then Kay

<v Speaker 2>is like where'd you learn how to make out like that?

<v Speaker 3>Oh my god? Yeah. Then they drive home. Yeah, Vivian

<v Speaker 3>is like she starts to get freaked out and she's like,

<v Speaker 3>you need to drive me home, and Kay is like,

<v Speaker 3>I literally can't see anything.

<v Speaker 1>Like.

<v Speaker 3>She's like it's so hard, and she's like, I don't care,

<v Speaker 3>You'll make it. Like she says something like that. I

<v Speaker 3>was like, okay, bitch, Kate thought it was cute.

<v Speaker 2>She's like, oh yeah, yeah, like I can do this.

<v Speaker 1>You guys are both gonna die.

<v Speaker 3>That would have been tragically okay. So then when they

<v Speaker 3>get home, Francis is like being all like weird and

<v Speaker 3>homophobic and she thinks that they did stuff I don't know.

<v Speaker 3>She's like so mad and she's kicking Vivian out. She's like,

<v Speaker 3>you can't stay here. Here's your rent check for the

<v Speaker 3>rest of the rent. Like, get out of here, you hussy.

<v Speaker 3>Basically I feel like up.

<v Speaker 2>She tears up her wrench.

<v Speaker 1>Eck is like that's uncalled for, and I'm like, girl,

<v Speaker 1>you just tore up her money, right know.

<v Speaker 3>She's like she's a professor, she's wrench and so I

<v Speaker 3>wrote Francis is being a homophobic cunch she was like,

<v Speaker 3>at least I'm normal.

<v Speaker 2>It's like, okay, well you were literally a mistress. Okay,

<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

<v Speaker 3>What okay exactly. And so then Kay asked Vivian like

<v Speaker 3>can I go with you? And Vivian is like no,

<v Speaker 3>but I'm staying or yeah, She's like no, and so

<v Speaker 3>then Kay is like, okay, well I'll be staying at

<v Speaker 3>Silver's like basically, like will you call me? I want

<v Speaker 3>you to know where I'm going to be at and

<v Speaker 3>Kate tells Francis I wrote Kate. Kay tells Francis like,

<v Speaker 3>I'm moving out. I don't want you to be a

<v Speaker 3>controlling bit you like, yeah, me to get out of

<v Speaker 3>my life basically, and Francis is like, she would have

<v Speaker 3>broken your heart anyway. Like so I in like twisted way,

<v Speaker 3>she's trying to say she's helping her. We know that

<v Speaker 3>she's gonna like move out. She's probably like she's having

<v Speaker 3>a lot of feelings, right and she wants to be

<v Speaker 3>with Vivian. But then we cut to Vivian in the shower.

<v Speaker 3>It's like a very dramatic shower scene, like a close

<v Speaker 3>up of her face and I think she's crying in

<v Speaker 3>the shower or maybe I think she's crying, yeah, and

<v Speaker 3>I was like, she's probably thinking about am I gay?

<v Speaker 2>She's like what the going on?

<v Speaker 3>What is life? Yeah? And then they also show k

<v Speaker 3>at work and she looks sad. So they're just showing

<v Speaker 3>us that they're like sad, they're just because each other. Yeah.

<v Speaker 3>So then Kay goes to visit Vivian at the hotel

<v Speaker 3>that she's staying at, and Vivian like closes the door

<v Speaker 3>on her, but then they still talk through the door, yeah,

<v Speaker 3>And eventually she lets her in and they talk not

<v Speaker 3>being through a door, and Vivian's being really weird and

<v Speaker 3>she just really cares about her reputation as a scholar,

<v Speaker 3>Like she keeps saying that I can't do this, I

<v Speaker 3>can't And then she goes then like gets a drink

<v Speaker 3>or like makes a drink at the hotel and she's

<v Speaker 3>like I'm not even gonna remember this time, like I'm

<v Speaker 3>just gonna write about it and then it's gonna go

<v Speaker 3>away something like that. And then she turns around and

<v Speaker 3>Kay's in the bed naked and her boobies are out,

<v Speaker 3>like she is like she's like, nobody can say no

<v Speaker 3>to these cities like, that's why I feel.

<v Speaker 4>Like the vibe was because she like covered her bottom

<v Speaker 4>half and then she just shits out like and you

<v Speaker 4>know what, she was right because I was like, oh

<v Speaker 4>my god, this is so inappropriate, but Vivian was into it.

<v Speaker 3>She was like, I can't resist these movies. You're right,

<v Speaker 3>and so she's like, uh oh, I wrote, oh my god,

<v Speaker 3>I think they're gonna have sex. And then Vivian is like,

<v Speaker 3>what do you think you're doing? And Kate's like, I'm

<v Speaker 3>waiting for you to get over Oh. She didn't say this,

<v Speaker 3>but this is what I think she would have said.

<v Speaker 3>She's like, I'm waiting for you to get over here

<v Speaker 3>and tap me, bitch, and she I mean, I don't

<v Speaker 3>know exactly what happened, but she does go over there

<v Speaker 3>and she's like, here, take your clothes and leave. And

<v Speaker 3>she's like, no, I know you want this, and then

<v Speaker 3>they do. She does want that because they do do

<v Speaker 3>sex stuff. She's like, I wouldn't know what to do.

<v Speaker 3>I don't know what to do. You have to teach me.

<v Speaker 3>And she's like, well, the first thing you could do

<v Speaker 3>is put the do not disturb sign on the door.

<v Speaker 3>And I was like, yeah, girl, She's like, I don't

<v Speaker 3>want anybody walking in on this. She's like no, So

<v Speaker 3>she does do that, and then they they have like

<v Speaker 3>a sex scene and it was like a pretty big deal.

<v Speaker 3>There were a lot of close ups of nipples and

<v Speaker 3>a very.

<v Speaker 2>True lesbian fashion.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then it fades to black at some point,

<v Speaker 3>and then it's like, I think it's been like hours

<v Speaker 3>and hours, because we know how lesbian sex works, like.

<v Speaker 2>It's like.

<v Speaker 3>Two days there, who knows, but like hours have gone

<v Speaker 3>by and they're still like naked and they've like moved

<v Speaker 3>to the chair. They just were wucking all over this

<v Speaker 3>hotel room, and so she had I think Kay says

<v Speaker 3>something like we need to get out of here, like

<v Speaker 3>and do something. We've been in this room for so long.

<v Speaker 3>And it makes me laugh because I have experienced it

<v Speaker 3>when like my wife and I were first together. I

<v Speaker 3>remember at some point she was like, we should like

<v Speaker 3>go take a walk. We've literally been in this room

<v Speaker 3>for days.

<v Speaker 2>She's like, let's go and interact with the people outside.

<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, okay, So we like went on

<v Speaker 3>a walk and then I was like, quick, go back anyway.

<v Speaker 3>So it's very special for Vivian because she's never she's

<v Speaker 3>never had lesbian sex before. She's only had sex with

<v Speaker 3>her husband that she doesn't really like she's divorcing. Yeah. Yeah.

<v Speaker 3>And then they go to like a like a bar

<v Speaker 3>diner place and they're drinking beers at a booth and

<v Speaker 3>Kay is like trying to hold hands like across the booth,

<v Speaker 3>and I feel like that's crazy. Yeah, she was like,

<v Speaker 3>they're gonna get but maybe because Kay like knows the area,

<v Speaker 3>and she's like, oh, people like no, no, no, Like

<v Speaker 3>maybe I don't know. And then there's like some men

<v Speaker 3>that try to buy them beers. I think they like

<v Speaker 3>send them beers over or whatever. And then Kay's like

<v Speaker 3>I love you and vibe and just keeps going on

<v Speaker 3>and on about her job and being a scholar and

<v Speaker 3>like of my job. And then I feel like she

<v Speaker 3>feels weird because the men are kind of like looking

<v Speaker 3>at them and Kay Kay says, you're just visiting the

<v Speaker 3>way that I live. And it makes me laugh. I

<v Speaker 3>mean it's not funny, but it makes me think of

<v Speaker 3>like call them like people that try out being a gay.

<v Speaker 3>They some people call them visitors. Yeah, And I always

<v Speaker 3>call them hasbians because of the word. Yeah, anyway. So

<v Speaker 3>she was just being a visitor and Kay's like whatever,

<v Speaker 3>and so they get they go out to the car

<v Speaker 3>and they get in like a fight about the whole

<v Speaker 3>situation in the car, and basically Vivian is like, I'm

<v Speaker 3>just like probably gonna leave. I'm going back home after

<v Speaker 3>this divorce is final, and like nothing else is gonna

<v Speaker 3>come with this, and I'm gonna be a normal straight

<v Speaker 3>lady like whatever. Then she like tries to like walk away,

<v Speaker 3>and she's like gonna walk twelve miles back to the

<v Speaker 3>hotel or whatever, girl be anyway. Of course, Kate convinces

<v Speaker 3>her to get back in the car and then they

<v Speaker 3>go back to the hotel and they have sex again.

<v Speaker 3>And then we see Sill's wedding the next day and

<v Speaker 3>we see like, I don't know, I think Kay was

<v Speaker 3>in the wedding. I think she was in it. Yeah,

<v Speaker 3>And then at the wedding, Francis is there and Francis

<v Speaker 3>pulls Kay aside and she's like, I know you don't

<v Speaker 3>have any reason to like still hang out with me

<v Speaker 3>and be with me, and you know, I don't understand

<v Speaker 3>what you do and I don't approve of it. And

<v Speaker 3>I was like oh, why she's such a bitch, like

<v Speaker 3>she bothers me. And then Kay explains to her, like,

<v Speaker 3>I feel the same way about Vivian that you felt

<v Speaker 3>about my dad, and she says this line that I

<v Speaker 3>forgot to write down earlier, but it's like Francis had

<v Speaker 3>described that the dad reached in and put string lights

<v Speaker 3>around her heart, and that's how she explains Vivian and

<v Speaker 3>like her feelings for Vivian to her, and then I

<v Speaker 3>feel like she kind of like gets it.

<v Speaker 2>She's like, oh, okay, that's what I got to say.

<v Speaker 3>And so then she like hugs her, so we're like, okay,

<v Speaker 3>she kind of got through to her. And then we

<v Speaker 3>cut all the way to the divorce being finalized at

<v Speaker 3>the court and the lawyer is like, cool, you can

<v Speaker 3>go back to New York and she's like, He's like,

<v Speaker 3>unless you don't want to, because I feel like everybody

<v Speaker 3>kind of knows because it's a small town. He's like, like,

<v Speaker 3>she's Kay, like, I don't unless there's a reason you

<v Speaker 3>want to stay in Rena. Anyway, he says something like, oh,

<v Speaker 3>you got a new pen pal about Kay, and Vivian

<v Speaker 3>is like she's much more than that, and so then,

<v Speaker 3>but when they're outside, they kind of get into like

<v Speaker 3>an argument because Vivian is still planning to go back

<v Speaker 3>to New York and I think that's dumb, and Kate

<v Speaker 3>doesn't want her to leave, and she's like, it's okay,

<v Speaker 3>open book and visit for Christmas, and I was like,

<v Speaker 3>that's not the same, mom. And so then when they

<v Speaker 3>get to the hotel, Kate doesn't want to come in

<v Speaker 3>and stay with her and have dinner with her and stuff,

<v Speaker 3>because she's like, it's you're gonna leave tomorrow and I'm

<v Speaker 3>gonna be really sad, like I just don't. I feel

<v Speaker 3>like she just wants to like end it now basically,

<v Speaker 3>and she's like sad because I feel like she wanted

<v Speaker 3>to have sex with her, and yeah, and then we

<v Speaker 3>see Vivian like sitting in the hotel like by herself,

<v Speaker 3>and then we cut to Vivian and Kay say goodbye

<v Speaker 3>at the train station the next morning, and Vivian finally

<v Speaker 3>asked Kay if she wants to come to New York

<v Speaker 3>with her, which I feel like she should have asked her.

<v Speaker 2>Before, but yeah, but she I, yeah, I could see.

<v Speaker 3>That, and Kay's like, no, I can't go because I

<v Speaker 3>have some loosens around here, and basically Vivian is like,

<v Speaker 3>you deserve to be around someone that loves you and

<v Speaker 3>appreciates you, and you should come with me, and you

<v Speaker 3>don't have to stay here forever. And then the train

<v Speaker 3>starts moving and Vivian is on it and Kay and

<v Speaker 3>Vivian's like, ride with me, and Kay's like, no, it's

<v Speaker 3>forty minutes to the next stop. Like you want me

<v Speaker 3>to ride with you for forty minutes? And she's like yeah,

<v Speaker 3>and she like pulls her on the train, and so

<v Speaker 3>then it that's how it ends, like with her like

<v Speaker 3>riding to the next stop with her. But I, like

<v Speaker 3>I said in the beginning, yeah, I chose to believe

<v Speaker 3>that it means that she actually like stayed with her

<v Speaker 3>and like went to New York with her, She stowed

<v Speaker 3>away the train for free, and they stay together forever.

<v Speaker 3>That's my hope. So, yeah, that was the movie. It

<v Speaker 3>was you know, a lot of things happened, and also

<v Speaker 3>not a lot happened, right, Yeah, But I always, I always,

<v Speaker 3>I guess I forget that it was such a short

<v Speaker 3>amount of time that all of.

<v Speaker 1>It they really you hold, Yeah, especially she really did

<v Speaker 1>go to New York. That was such like they don't

<v Speaker 1>know each other, but okay, right, like maybe it worked out.

<v Speaker 3>She's like, this is the first lesbian I've ever met.

<v Speaker 2>She's like, oh my god in love.

<v Speaker 3>Yes, and so oh it's time. It's time for the

<v Speaker 3>munch awaited segment. Munch merged.

<v Speaker 2>You said, munch awaited.

<v Speaker 3>The munch awaited. It's the months awaited segment. Munch merged murder.

<v Speaker 4>Yes.

<v Speaker 3>So the options this time are Vivian kay, and Still,

<v Speaker 3>who would you choose?

<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, so I feel like it's very obvious, just

<v Speaker 1>because like I don't know who they are.

<v Speaker 2>I think i'd probably merge with K.

<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then i'd probably murder Vivian because I didn't

<v Speaker 1>really like her, And then I guess munch Still.

<v Speaker 2>What about you?

<v Speaker 3>Well, probably the same. I mean I would merge with

<v Speaker 3>K because she's actually gay, so like that's cool. Maybe. Yeah,

<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say the same thing. I think that

<v Speaker 3>I would munch sill and I would murder Vivian.

<v Speaker 2>Yeah, kind she does.

<v Speaker 3>She's not my favorite. So what would you rate this

<v Speaker 3>movie on a scale of one to five?

<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say I know it's a classic.

<v Speaker 1>I want to say three point five out of five cherries.

<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what about you?

<v Speaker 3>I said four. I said four, but it's like a

<v Speaker 3>week four.

<v Speaker 1>It's like it's almost it's like, like, yeah, I.

<v Speaker 3>Like that it was representation for lesbians. I just feel

<v Speaker 3>like it could have had a better ending. But I

<v Speaker 3>also wonder if it was because of the time, like

<v Speaker 3>they were like we can't like we can have them

<v Speaker 3>be together, but we can leave it slort of open ended.

<v Speaker 3>And also, like I said, I thought that the thing

<v Speaker 3>with the oh you know you want it like I

<v Speaker 3>got my boobs, I thought that was kind of weird.

<v Speaker 3>I thought it was like it was too coeresive and

<v Speaker 3>I didn't really like that. So yeah, I guess I

<v Speaker 3>would say a four, but it's a week four. I

<v Speaker 3>would almost say at three point seventy five, but I'm

<v Speaker 3>gonna leave it at four. Okay, I leave it at four. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're going to have one of our literary lesbian segments.

<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, so I really wanted to do this segment

<v Speaker 3>on this episode and have it center on Andrea Gibson.

<v Speaker 3>I love them and I have for a long time.

<v Speaker 3>I guess they came to the college that's near our

<v Speaker 3>town in twenty ten, but I vaguely remember that, but

<v Speaker 3>I couldn't go. Oh so was silly because I was

<v Speaker 3>twenty and I thought you had to go to the

<v Speaker 3>college to be able to see the shows of the

<v Speaker 3>college because they're not that popular, especially at that time,

<v Speaker 3>so it might have been kind of like a small

<v Speaker 3>thing where you had to have, like have a student ID.

<v Speaker 3>I can't remember, but I really love them. So for

<v Speaker 3>those that don't know much about them, they were a

<v Speaker 3>gender queer poet. They were the Poet Laureate of Colorado.

<v Speaker 3>They did a lot of spoken word and they also

<v Speaker 3>published multiple poetry books. There's a poem that is in

<v Speaker 3>their book Lord of the Butterflies. The first time I

<v Speaker 3>kind of came across it on a YouTube video was

<v Speaker 3>them performing it and the poem is called first Love,

<v Speaker 3>and it's so incredibly moving to me. It's a really

<v Speaker 3>long poem, so I'm not to recite at all. But

<v Speaker 3>there is this one line that says, do you remember

<v Speaker 3>the first record where we didn't have to change the

<v Speaker 3>pronouns to sing along? We'd got We'd gone so many

<v Speaker 3>years without music that knew us. And I love it

<v Speaker 3>because it's always really special to me and probably to

<v Speaker 3>other gays to hear a song where it's a woman

<v Speaker 3>singing and they're saying she, and they're saying her even

<v Speaker 3>if you even if it's like Melissa Etheridge and you

<v Speaker 3>just like know that she's a lesbian, saying like, ah,

<v Speaker 3>this song is about a woman. But it's extra special

<v Speaker 3>when they're they're really like explicitly saying this is about

<v Speaker 3>a woman. And so I love that. So uh, Andrea

<v Speaker 3>had an amazing way with words. And uh. They recently

<v Speaker 3>passed away due to a pretty long battle with cancer,

<v Speaker 3>and and they will be very missed. They truly made

<v Speaker 3>the world a better place. Their poetry has made me

<v Speaker 3>and so many others feel included and safe. And I

<v Speaker 3>want to share with you all a very prized possession

<v Speaker 3>of mine. It's my signed copy of their their poetry

<v Speaker 3>collection You Better Be Lightning.

<v Speaker 2>So that is really cute. Yeah, and your bookmark.

<v Speaker 3>I still have the bookmark that is so gay and

<v Speaker 3>says signed copy. My wife got me this for Christmas

<v Speaker 3>one year. I mean, I definitely I told her this

<v Speaker 3>is what I wanted. I was, You're like, get me this,

<v Speaker 3>and so look, yeah, I love it, and you know

<v Speaker 3>it's it's really it's really sad because now they have passed.

<v Speaker 3>I will I've always cherished it, but I guess I'll

<v Speaker 3>cherish it even more because I know I can never

<v Speaker 3>really get another one. They can't sign another one for me.

<v Speaker 3>And so there are a few most of the poems

<v Speaker 3>in this are are pretty long, but there are a

<v Speaker 3>few short ones that I wanted to read. So this

<v Speaker 3>one is called no such thing as the Innocent Bystander,

<v Speaker 3>and I think it's incredibly irrelevant to our times with

<v Speaker 3>this administration and what's going on, and it just it

<v Speaker 3>says a silence ride shotgun wherever hate goes. I just

<v Speaker 3>think it's a good reminder that you got to speak up,

<v Speaker 3>just being like, well, I didn't say anything bad, like okay,

<v Speaker 3>but you also didn't say anything. I didn't say anything. Yeah.

<v Speaker 3>And then this one spelling B without stinger is I

<v Speaker 3>Love Myself is often spelled G oo d b y e.

<v Speaker 3>Sometimes you have to let go of the people or

<v Speaker 3>the things in your life that are hurting you, and

<v Speaker 3>I really love that, so I wanted to share this.

<v Speaker 3>I mean, I I love Andrew Gibson. I always have,

<v Speaker 3>but in recent years, since they've been sick, and then

<v Speaker 3>now that they recently passed, I extra wanted to, you know,

<v Speaker 3>make sure that we talked about them.

<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't tig Nataro make a documentary about them?

<v Speaker 3>Yes, And it's not I don't think it's available anywhere yet.

<v Speaker 3>It was at film festivals, and I'm glad that it

<v Speaker 3>came out while they were still alive and they could

<v Speaker 3>see it. My understanding is that it centered a lot

<v Speaker 3>on their sickness, and I know that because tig Nataro

<v Speaker 3>had breast cancer, and I think that they were already friends,

<v Speaker 3>but they really bonded over both having cancer because yeah,

<v Speaker 3>Andrea had ovarian cancer. And the film is called Come

<v Speaker 3>See Me in the Good Light, And I looked it

<v Speaker 3>up because I've been wanting to see it, and I'm like,

<v Speaker 3>when is it going to be available somewhere? Because I've

<v Speaker 3>only heard tiktoking about going to like festivals when they've

<v Speaker 3>released it. It's going to be on Apple TV. So

<v Speaker 3>I really got to get Apple TV back because they

<v Speaker 3>have really good stuff. I know, always like watch this

<v Speaker 3>thing on Apple TV and then I pay for it.

<v Speaker 3>I need to pay for it again. But it's going

<v Speaker 3>to be on Apple TV this fall, okay, and I'm

<v Speaker 3>super excited about it. Maybe we can talk about it

<v Speaker 3>on the pod. It's gonna be a really sad episode

<v Speaker 3>obviously if we do talk about it, but I think

<v Speaker 3>it deserves to be talked about. So anyway, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>Calamity Jane, which is not explicitly lesbian, but It's gay

<v Speaker 1>as hell, honestly so. This film is available to rent

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<v Speaker 3>Executive producers for But I'm a Lesbian are Caitlin Beatty

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<v Speaker 3>Music by Stiletto Falsetto.