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Speaker 2: A queer elder, we're here, we're queer, and we're diving

deep into all things lesbian. We're your hosts, Caitlin and Angelina.

Get ready for some sapphag serotonin. So on today's episode,

we are discussing the twenty twenty four film. It's an

Apple TV film which I just found out. I thought

it was a theaters and when I was looking for it,

I realized it's just on a TV. But it's still

really good. That doesn't mean anything about the quality. It's

called Fancy Dance. It stars Lily Gladstone as a lesbian

caring for her niece and searching for her missing sister.

Speaker 1: So have you seen this movie before, Caitlin?

Speaker 2: Yes, I watch, you know what, I watch everything that

has Lily Gladstone in it, except the most popular movie

that they've been in, which is The Killer or the Flower.

Oh yeah, but that's because I don't.

Speaker 1: Do you hate Leonardo together?

Speaker 2: Okay? I loved him in Titanic when I was a child.

I think because he's still he kind of looked like

a little mass mask and he had like the Justin

Bieber vibe going on, and then when he got older

he got like that fat man head. I hate that,

and like John Travolta has it and I was like ugh,

and then he's so gross because he keeps dating five. Yeah,

but I read somewhere that that's to cover up that

he's gay. Did you read that?

Speaker 1: I did hear about that. I've also heard of my

beat and if that's George Volta's gay. Yeah, there was

like a whole thing. I remember like coming out and

they were like saying that they had like a film

of him somewhere, like having sex with a man in

the shower. I remember reading that and my mom was like,

maybe what's not because I was.

Speaker 2: Like, oh wait, were you with child? I was like,

sex with the man.

Speaker 1: She's like yes, but also.

Speaker 2: You can't see sex because you're child. Oh my god,

oh yes, we love that. That reminds me that one

time I used to read my mom's cosmos and I

would like hide, but I was reading them, you know,

and I was like ten maybe, and we were like

flipping through channels and there were people like doing it

and it showed you on the bottom like what the

thing was called, and it was called something. I don't

remember what it was called. I want to say it

had to do with stilettos. Like it was like, now,

it sounds like it was a porn. I don't know

if it was, but I said something like because I

had read this term in Cosmo. So I was like, oh,

blah blah blah, it looks like they're doing the mattress mambo.

Speaker 1: I read that.

Speaker 2: I read it in Cosmo. It said like, next time

you're doing the mattress mambo, like try these new moves.

And my mom was laughing so hard and she's like,

where did you hear that? And I didn't want to

tell her because then that would say that I were

reading her Cosmos. So I was like, I just made

it up. I don't know, I'm so clover. He probably

thinks I'm so clover still because of that. AnyWho, I

didn't watch it because of Leonardo DiCaprio. I just feel

like he's not All the movies he picks are not

movies that I'm into, like like they're like action or

like I hate action movies. Action movies but not all, like,

not all of them. So sometimes I'll watch action movies,

but only if they're like the they Sent Her on

a woman or Jason Stathum. I don't know why. I

like he's actually so fan Yeah. I like his accent

and I think you really good at acting.

Speaker 1: Did you see that movie he made where it's like

Nuns the Nuns?

Speaker 2: He made one with Nuns.

Speaker 1: No, there was this one and he's a like police

detective and he works with this guy that everyone like

hates at the police station and they make fun of

him because he's gay. But he's like I don't give

a fuck, and they're like are you gay? And he's

like fuck you, Like let's to solve this murder and

he doesn't care. And like I guess it was like

nice because everyone else was like bullying him and they

like developed like a close friendship and he's just like,

I don't give a fuck, dude, Like I'm on my

own thing right now.

Speaker 2: Okay, I feel like I might have seen.

Speaker 1: It, but a good movie.

Speaker 2: I have one more thing to say before I forget,

before we go into our other little topic that we

were going to talk about. I just want to say

that I think pretty much all celebrities are by. And

I think the same thing about vampires, because vampires, you're

gonna live forever, you gotta fuck everybody, like they can't

just limit themselves to one gender, right, like they're living

for years. They will fuck.

Speaker 1: But if you were a vampire, I don't think I

would exactly. I mean, see we need lesbian vampire.

Speaker 2: That's true. But all at least all the all the

all the boy vampires there all by and that I

bring it to me by interview with the vampire and

True Blood because Eric Northman, Yeah, fucking dudes, And I

think so was so was vampor Bill Yeah he was.

I think. Didn't they have a sex scene together?

Speaker 1: They did have a scene together, but then they also

had that one like weird scene where like Suki was

like having sex with like both of them kind of

in her.

Speaker 2: Dream because she was dreaming.

Speaker 1: Yeah, she was like because I was after you'd like

drink her blood and she was just like having those dreams.

Oh my god.

Speaker 2: I love True Blood. If anybody out there has not

seen True Blood, you should watch it. I'm pretty sure

it's on Netflix.

Speaker 1: Now, it's on Hulu.

Speaker 2: Oh, it's on Hulu. Okay, watch it. It's really good.

Any who. Yeah, they're all by, is my point, because

they're rich and they can get whoever they want, so

they're like, let me just try it. Like even if

they aren't like actually by, I think they be like

they have to, like how.

Speaker 1: Can you be alive for that long and not like

be like you know what, fuck it, let's just do

it right.

Speaker 2: Yeah? Any who? I wanted to say that, or I

wanted to ask because part of this movie involves a

road trip, so I thought it would be in fisting

to talk about road trips. So what is the longest

road trip you've taken? Or it could also be like

the most fun road trip? And who was it with?

Speaker 1: The longest one would have to be last year. I

think when I told you my sister and I we went.

We drove to Texas. It was very long, it was

really hot. Overall, I think it was nice because I

had never driven out of state before, let alone like

go through any of those states other than like passing

over like when you're on a plane. So I thought

it was fun a crazy experience, I think because we

were by ourselves and we were also like, oh my god.

But it was nice. Yeah, I enjoyed it. And then

I want to say the one I had the most

fun was when we went to Portland. When I went

with Yamie, it was like really nice because we were

just like, oh my god, we get to explore.

Speaker 2: I felt like, I don't know, it's so.

Speaker 1: Stupid with am adult. I was like, yeah, I get

to do what I want, even though I can do

that right now.

Speaker 2: But like, were you a little scared because you had

to drive through a lot of towns that I would

think are or Texas, Oh, Texas both, but I was

thinking when you were driving through like northern northern California,

I was like, I'm a little scared for them because

these are giving sundowntown energy. Like they're gonna be racist

and homophobic. I don't know.

Speaker 1: Thankfully we didn't. We only stopped in Reading to get Denny's.

Speaker 2: It's a little scary.

Speaker 1: That it was fine, like it was okay, Yeah, we

we didn't like we tried not to stop so much.

We stopped at one place to get gas and I

forgot even where that was. But that was actually before

we had I think after we passed past Robs, so

it was like somewhere there we stopped, we put gas,

but it would Yeah, it wasn't too bad because we're like,

let's just fill up now. But driving through to Texas

and yes, definitely, there was like a lot of places

where it's just like you see in movies, you know,

and like I was like, if we stop and there

are people, I feel like we're gonna get murdered or yeah,

like scary. Yeah. And I told you. We stayed in

that hotel that literally just had a truck stop and

the hotel and there was like nothing for miles and

I was like, oh my god. But it was kind

of okay because there were other people traveling. Yeah, and

we were like, oh, our huge family full of men

are with us, Like that's what we always we are

making them names. I was like, Adam and Max are

in the back, like they're just getting the bags.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: I was like, let's check out these rooms.

Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll just check out the rooms while the guys

are out there.

Speaker 1: Doing the hard labor. We're just gonna do something fun.

Speaker 2: That's so funny. That reminds me of There was like

this bit that fortune femster would talk about about when

she and her wife got married and they had a

layover in like a really homophobic country or something, and

they were like, Uh, this is my cousin and we're

just waiting for our band. Our husbands are coming later.

Don't know. That's so funny, but I do feel like

my wife and I don't really like do that, but

we do. Always. She's always like, your dad's back at

the room right or now that we're like older, we're like, oh,

they might think our dad is like a feeble old man,

so we'll be like your brother, yeah yeah, say like yeah,

so that they're like, oh, there's like a young tough

man there, which is really sad. But I'm sure that

those of you that a lot of you that are

listening can probably relate to that, to be honest, because

it's it's like a true thing.

Speaker 1: It is like even if you're not gay, like just

in general as like you could be a straight yeah,

just being a woman. You're like, oh, it's like scary

traveling home. That's where there's so many tips and tricks,

like the chair at the door and like checking everywhere,

which we did. We were like under the bed, like

is there anybody here? I was like that may sound crazy,

but like I guess you never know, right.

Speaker 2: Yeah, one time we went to seven eleven after Oh,

we went to see Alana Glazier and oh, it was

like I think her first stand up tour. I don't

think she does. I don't think she'd really done OK.

And this was like a year or so ago. I

don't know. I could have made that up. But anyway,

we really had a pee and we went to seven

eleven and there while I was like, that's my wife, wow,

Janita Eriarte, our creative director, she was like, I think

there's a camera in here. It looks really weird. I'm

not going to pee. And then we left and then

we held it all the way back home for like

you just stop. Could've given ourselves a UK. But it

was like two in the morning and it was scarykay

around we were like, oh, weird, creepy isolated, like no,

So we were both like you both were like, no,

what is that saying. It's like my eyes were floating

something like that. My teeth are floating, I think, but

my eyes were floating. That's how much I had a pee.

It was even higher. It was like you have to

feel so much that like the p.

Speaker 1: Is it's like right, it's.

Speaker 2: It's gross accidental open shower.

Speaker 1: I love the eyes and the teeth. Well, I'm sure

I imagine that's.

Speaker 2: What it must feel like. Anyway, what's your road trip? Okay, yeah,

I don't have a cool road trip story. But when

my wife and I were like first dating in like

twenty twelve, my grandma got married and my grandma lives

near Reno, and she really wanted us to come. I

was like in the wedding, I was like one of

the bridesmaids. And so we drove there and that's like

really far. I mean not as far as like Portland

it was like, but it's still pretty far to take

like eight or nine hours or something. Same when we

go to Vegas. My grandma, my other grandma lives in Vegas.

Apparently my grandma's loving Vada. I don't know, but that's that.

Vegas takes like seven hours, and we've had good trips.

We had a terrible trip. The last time we drove

to Vegas. I think it was the last time. It

was in like twenty twenty one. Our car broke down

in the middle of nowhere. Luck it was daytime, but

it was like one hundred and something degrees. So in

that way, it wasn't lucky and Triple A like couldn't

find and we were waiting on the side of the

road for hours, like hours and hours. So they finally

found us. And then luckily I have Triple A because

my dad pays for it and it's the one where

you get one up to two hundred mile to a year. Yeah,

because we were like one hundred and something miles from Vegas,

so they just towed the car all the way to Vegas.

It was it was fourth and July weekend, so like

most of the shops were closed, and then we found

like a one of those like like like not a

Jiffy lou but something like a chain one and it

was open and so then we had the car towed there.

And anyway, it turned out that the car was totaled,

so then we had to buy any car to drive back.

But my grandma she is very much like she has

this very dominant energy. Like my wife always thought she

was like five ten, but she's like five five, but

she gives off this like I'm the boss here. So

she went with us to get the car.

Speaker 1: She got some good deal, yes, so that was.

Speaker 2: Really helpful because she was like, you can't go any

on that.

Speaker 1: She's like, really, are you sure?

Speaker 2: I know you can't, and so so it was I

was like, yeah, my first like new ish car buying experience,

the first time I had a car where I had

like financing and yeah we did like zero down. Wow.

And I didn't even know that was a thing. And

my Grandma's like, yeah, that's a thing. I'm going to

tell them you have zero to put down and yeah

that was our car. We need it Barbara after my grandma. Oh,

but then I totaled it like two years later. It

was sad. The car that broke down on the way

to Vegas was named Rita after my other grandma. And

then the car that we have now, I was gonna say,

we're named after a grandma. It's just named Pearl because

the color is pearl white. And we were like, yeah,

you're like anyway, oh, oh, we have to talk about

our hot takes or Bernie desires. Okay. I almost forgot

because I was so excited talking about road trips. Okay,

so do you know what yours is? Because I can't

even remember mine. I gotta find it.

Speaker 1: I didn't remember at first, but then I looked through

my notes and I remembered, but I don't know if

it's necessarily I don't know. I feel like it's a

very weak one will time around. But you know, that's.

Speaker 2: Why I didn't want it to always have to be

a hot take. Sometimes I guess it could be my

burning desire.

Speaker 1: I wanted it to be more gay, but I also

understand why because it had a very important message. So

I was like, I, this will take a back sciat

the gainess will take a vaccine.

Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. I put this on here because I

really liked it and I thought it had a good message.

And everyone I've talked to about this movie has not

seen it, and I think it needs more attention, and

I felt like it fit because part of the reason

I originally watched it the first time is because Lily

Gladson was in it and played a lesbian. So I

was like, yeah, and yeah, the gayness is not the

center of the story but a bonus. Sometimes that's great

because it's just like regular life and this person happens

to be gay. Yeah, and also really really hot.

Speaker 1: I think she is really fucking hot, and like she's

a hot in general. But like this movie, this was

a very good recommendation by you.

Speaker 2: Yeah, you're welcome. But like scene where she was getting

a lap dance, I know she's like I'm feeling something.

Speaker 1: I feel like you're like, oh my god, it was

so hot, Like I'll give you this money because I

respect you.

Speaker 2: Yeah, and it makes my intentions clear, which we'll talk

about that later. But I felt like she was saying

because I don't want a real relationship with you, Okay.

Speaker 1: True.

Speaker 2: Anyway, what I said was really just that it's super

relevant to like what's happening right now, like in the US,

because I put it's very relevant to many boot liquor situations,

like ice is just following orders like people love to say,

or like the videos I've seen on TikTok tiktop TikTok

of people like clapping for ice, like oh my god,

they're they did, and it's like you, yo, why are

you like this?

Speaker 1: Yeah?

Speaker 2: And uh it also I'll talk about it later, but

they talk about historical things that have happened, and it's

you know, structural racism, systemic racism, like things that have

been going on forever and people are still suffering from it.

And it's just another example of how people sometimes I

hear people say things like racism is over, and I'm like,

what are you talking about. Yeah, that's not hot take,

that's not nice hot yeah, ice cold take like that.

But people say things like that, and I think this

is just an example of how you know they're on

a reservation. You see that the reserve is like very poor.

This is from years and years ago when white people,

colonizers took over and then they just put the native

people of the land on these like a little areas

that are usually like not good land, like not like

easily like farmable type of like land. They're like, oh,

we don't care about this land, We'll put just put

them there.

Speaker 1: We don't know what to do with them, like just

go there.

Speaker 2: So I'm mad about that. Anyway, that was my little

burning desire. So coming up next, we're gonna dive deeper

into the actual recap. But right now it's time for

a break, so don't go too far. It's just enough

time to shoot a text to your long distance situation

shift to.

Speaker 3: Keep that one.

Speaker 1: Welcome back to but I'm a Lesbian. This week we

are discussing the Apple TV film Fancy Dance.

Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so I am really excited about this. Uh,

so we open on hot Butch Lily Gladstone. Her name

is Jack's in this but we don't even know that yet,

but we're gonna know it. I don't like the name

Jax because it makes me think, oh, from Jax Taylor

from vander pump Rolls. Oh what who do you think of?

Speaker 1: What is that one show called not the Mayans but

the other one?

Speaker 2: Oh, the Sons of Anarchy? Yeah? I don't watch that

too many men, No, I like, but vander pump Roles

is fine. But that's because because is on it and

Gina and La La. I really like vander pump Rolls.

If anyone wants to talk about it, the dms are open.

We can talk about vander pump Rolls for days. Dmkwan

for ally, I watched that too now anyway, So Jax

is metal detecting and smoking, and her like twelve ish

thirteenish age niece is getting something out of the water.

I think they're like crawfish or and then we see

them talking to each other, but we don't know what

they're saying because they are speaking in their native language

and there's no subtitles. And but basically I think what

we're supposed to figure out is that what they were

saying was they were making a plan to distract this

guy and steal his truck. So Jacks uses her feminine

wiles to distract this man that's fishing. She like takes

off her shirt and is like, isn't she like put

the shirt? And she's going like this, it's so hot.

She's like, the man is like you are. And then

the niece goes and steals his keys, and then they

steal his truck and they put their bikes in the

back of it and they take it to this like

it's like a shop, but it's like also like an

auto salvage place, and I think it's like on the reservation.

They know the guy really well. The guy I don't

think we find out yet, but I'm gonna tell you

right now that guy is also a drug dealer. He

went to shady shit, the guy that runs this salvage place.

But I don't remember his name.

Speaker 1: I thought it was like Moo, not move something else,

because I know it was just like a nickname that

they gave him.

Speaker 2: Okay, well, I don't remember the shady guy. Bad guy.

That's what we know. So she's like, Hey, how much

can I get for like this stuff that I found

and the truck? Right yeah whatever, yeah yeah, And so

he is like, I don't know. He gives her some

money while they go to the back to like discuss it.

The niece is shoplifting like a candy necklace and just

like little things. Anyway, So we see that the niece

her name is Roki. I'm pronouncing it right right. We

said broke you Okay, I call my cat Rookie, so

I kept wanting to say Rookie, and I don't know

where it came from. His name is Attaqi bad Rookie.

That's what I sing to him. So I was like Rookie,

like my boy. Anyway, So she sees a missing flyer

for a woman and she looks sad. So then we're

going to find out that that is her mom that's missing.

So her mom is uh, her name is Twie. She

has been missing for a while, and while she's been missing,

she's been staying with her aunt Jack's. And so they're

riding home and then they are counting money for what

they got from today and Rokie is trying to save

money to get powow tickets for herself and her mom,

which is like really sad because we know the mom

is missing, but she's like convinced her mom is going

to be back. Yeah, and she's like she's now power,

she's yeah, or she's going to meet her at the powow.

So at this pow wow, they always hear and her

mom always participate in the mother daughter dance, and I

guess they're like champions, like the reigning champions. So she's like,

there's no way that my mom is going to miss this.

So then while they're just enjoying their life, CPS shows

up at the door and they want to talk to Jackson.

They're like, okay, so your sister is missing, so Rokie's

staying with you. You got to fill out these forms

in order to basically become like a foster parent for her.

And she's like, okay, so this is interesting. I will

talk about it later because I want to talk about

the Indian Child Welfare Act in our little, our little

history segment later just because it's really real to this.

But I used to work in child welfare, so I

kind of have background knowledge of this. This was another

reason that I found this movie so interesting just to

see it from another side, not the side of the

person working, you know, the people affected, and it is

really hard, and there's a lot of secondary trauma that

comes with working in that type of job, but there's

it's not as bad as the first hand trauma of

the people that are you know, the kids that are

being taken away from their parents or potentially their other

family members. So it's really hard. So later that night,

Jax goes to the strip club to meet her very

special friend Sapphire, and she's a dancer there, and I

wrote apparently she's not her actual girlfriend because Jackson insists

on paying her to make her intentions clear. Yeah, so

I think that the point was she's like, I'm not

ready for a relationship, but she likes I'm gonna because

the girl was like, you don't have to pay me,

Like it's like, you know.

Speaker 1: Like I'm just doing this here, and she's like, I

actually do.

Speaker 2: Like, let's not get it twisted. Yeah, but I was

into it anyway. So I guess that the dancer Sapphire

is friends and she's also a co worker of the

missing sisters. How we so I guess how we also

worked there, and so some of the men at the

club start making jokes about the missing posters, which is like,

why would you joke about someone being missing? Like yeah,

but it's like a bunch of I can't remember for sure,

but there's like a bunch of like non native people,

like white guys that live like in like these trailers,

like because they're working, uh somewhere in the area, and

it's a bunch of them. So I was like, yeah, yeah,

they're joking about it because they don't care about women.

But also it's giving also racist. Like, so Jack's start,

it's talking to who I find out later is her brother.

I was like, brother, Yeah, okay, so JJ, and he

works for the tribal police and he confirms that nothing

is happening in the case, like they have no leads

on finding TWI, and so Rokie's at home during this time.

They show her trying on her mom's clothes and watching

powwow videos and practicing. So also still so sad, Right,

she's seen her mom. So later we see that JJ

helps Jack's home like literally like carries her basically to

the couch. So fucking wasted. So I think I feel

like that's to show that she's like struggling a lot

right internally or also that she likes to get fucked up.

I don't know, I don't know what they're showing. And

then in the morning, Rochie is making her mom's costume,

so she's like sewing it, and Jax calls the police

to try to get more info. Are there and he

updates blah blah blah, and she gets the run around.

So then the grandpa comes to visit, the grandpa of Rokie.

So he is Jack's and Tawie's dad. He is white.

This is important to the story. He comes to visit

with his new wife and he mentions that he mentions

that Tawie and Roki are the reigning champions at the

Oklahoma City Competition. Grandpa. I kept calling him Grandpa through this,

and then I found out later his name is Frank,

So you're like, oh, I was like Grandpa, Grandpa Grandpa.

So Frank and his wife Nancy brought a necklace for

Rokie and then Grandpa Grandpa Granda ba. Grandpa Frank tells

Jacks he's worried about Towie, but he hasn't been at

any of the searches. So she's like, oh, you really

care that much, and we learned that he used to

live on the res when the mom was alive, but

when the mom died, he left, and Jack says, basically,

can you all the FBI and put pressure on them?

And he's like, why don't you just call? And she's like,

they don't. They don't listen to me because I am

a woman and I am a Native American, like you

need to call white man and put pressure on them.

And so at some point we sort of find out

that he's not JJ's dad, which I think you already

kind of establish because you were like her half brother.

So I didn't know that either.

Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, okay, and then that's when they

were like, oh, he's like your brother JJ. She's like yeah,

So I was like, okay, I'm kind of getting the like, but.

Speaker 2: It is weird because he doesn't seem he doesn't seem

that worried about his daughter, but tellship.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I put like troubled relationship. You can tell because

they were just like He's like, let's just not get

into it and she's like, okay, like you basically abandoned

us after like our mom died. And then he's just like,

do you really think it's like serious as time, and

she's like yes, and he's like okay, I'll make a call.

Speaker 2: Yes, yes, okay. So then later that night, JACKSONI go

to a search and it seems like they've been searching

like constantly, like like all the time. Yeah, doing searches.

Speaker 1: I found his name is Boo, the guy, the shady guy.

I said, moo, I'm so sorry it's Boo, not move.

Speaker 2: I don't know.

Speaker 1: I crossed it out for some reason.

Speaker 2: I guess, well, when I think of Boo, you haven't

seen this, but I think of Big Boo from Orange

is the new Black Leah Delaria who, Yeah, I'm gonna

know that. I am attracted to her. I'm attracted to

any like big butch. She's hot as fuck, PRIs wife.

I mean, I was into Alex Voss also, but she

turns out to be kind of a cunt. I don't know,

I don't know. I also have some issues with Boo

because of this one thing with the guard dog. She

was like training the dog and then she was creepy

towards the dog and I was like, wait, what do

you I just remember I hated her because of that.

So let's pretend that never happened. Girl, likes she's really offended. Okay,

So anyway, I also wanted to note that the reservation

that they're on is the Seneca Kayuga Reservation. And so

they go to this search, they don't find her, They

don't find anything, and then they get home and they

see that there's a cop car in the driveway of

Jack's house and they're like, oh my god, has she

been found? So like Jacks runs in and she sees

JJ and she's like, have they found her? They find

Tawie and he's like no, and then he's Then she

sees the CPS lady, the Child Protection Services lady, and

she's like, we had to take Rokie. She's being removed

from you and placed with her grandpa. This is because

Jacks has some stuff on her background check. Yeah, did

she like go to jail, Yeah, she's she it was

like for drugs, like she was dealing drugs at some point.

So that's also makes sense why she knows Boo so well,

because they probably don't drugs together back in the day.

So they are like, you know, we have to take her.

There's going to be a court hearing in two weeks.

And also we're mad because there's weed and alcohol in

your home. So the extra can't have her, and she's like, well,

what the hell, Like, you're not supposed to place Indian

kids with people outside of their tribe and you have

to place them with family. And they're like, well, he

is family, and so that's like where it's kind of

shitty because he is family, but he's not connected to

like their culture life. He like left that as soon

as your mom died. And so Jack's goes to talk

to like her friend that is a lawyer which I

didn't really get their name. I think it might be Ricky,

but I wasn't sure. And she suggests, like, you need

to go off of the reservation and get a lawyer

to help, but it's going to be expensive af and

she's like, I don't have the money for that, and

so the friend is like the lawyer friend is like, well,

you probably need to make nice with your dad and

he needs to help you. And so she tries to

do that. She goes to dinner and they tell her like, hey,

you're not allowed to be with Roki and sup revised. Yeah,

so you can't take her to the pow wow and

we can't take her to the pow wow because we

have other stuff going on or whatever. And that's like

really fucked up because he knows that that's so important

to her. So it's like, oh my god, like the

step grandma and Nancy says like, what's really important that

we keep you connected to your culture, and it's like, oh,

mostly can't do.

Speaker 1: The most important thing you want to do.

Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck? So that'd made me mad,

and so obviously Rokie's really sad. And then Jax goes

to visit Sapphire and Sapphire tells her, you know, I

overheard from you know, heard it through the grape vine

that Twie had been hanging out with the oil workers.

That's what they do, work with oil. I was like,

they do some kind of job.

Speaker 1: I don't like.

Speaker 2: They do their working joke men, and I don't like them.

They live in an RV's on them and.

Speaker 1: They made their insensitive jokes.

Speaker 2: Yes, like fuck these guys. So yeah, I guess she

had been seen hanging out with some of the oil

workers at the r V man camps. I think they

called the man Sounds like a terrible place to be, honestly.

And so then we see at the Grandpa's house, Grandpa Frank.

Nancy's trying to connect with Rokie and she like gives

her ballet shoes and is like, oh, I signed you

up for dance because I know.

Speaker 1: You love dancing and not like the same thing.

Speaker 2: That's not like I don't do ballet, and she's like, yeah,

but like you love to dance at the powows. So

it's kind of like sad because you see she's trying,

but also she really doesn't get it because what Rokie

is saying is like, you don't understand, like it's not

just a dance, it's about it's about us being together

and like it's like a special connection with my mom,

like and she's like, well, when did you like learn

the moves? And she's like, I just feel like I've

always known them because it's something we've always done. Why

am I crying about it? Because that she like misses

her mom and then they took her away from her

aunt and then she can't doesn't even really know, like

I don't think they mentioned it, but it doesn't seem

like the grandpa has visited that much either, so it's

like she doesn't even know him. And so, uh, then

we see Jax goes to Boo the dealer, and she's like, hey,

I need to sell drugs to make some money, and

he's like, yeah, okay, I'll give you some. You have

to go to the man camps to sell, So she

asked him about TAWI. He's like, not helpful. She goes

to this RV to sell the drugs to these men

and they're super creepy and aggressive and they basically like

offer her to pay for sex.

Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, you can make more money if you stay.

Speaker 2: Yeah, like stay here, you want to say. She's like, oh,

what the fuck. But this is just like an example,

like we see, like this was very dangerous for her

sister to have been doing us because these men were

super creepy towards her, and she's like pretty obviously like

a lesbian. So imagine how they probably were towards her sister,

who is like more like feminine and is like a dancer.

They probably did. They probably thought that they are entitled

to her body because they've seen her at the club.

And then whatever, this guy freaks out, thinks she has

a wire. It's like weird. But she gets out of

there and as she like leaves, one of the guys

comes out one of the other guys that's not so aggressive,

and he says, Hey, I just want to tell you

I've seen your sister selling at the camps before she disappeared,

and so she's like huh. So then Jax talks to

JJ and she's like, did you know that Tawie was

selling drugs? And he's like, well, I couldn't tell you

because it's an open investigation. So she's like what the fuck.

Speaker 1: She's like, why would you not tell me? Like I

should be the first person to know.

Speaker 2: Yes, okay, And then Jax goes to Grandpa Frank's house

and breaks Rokie out so that they can go to

the powow together. And so they steal Grandpa's car and

Jax leaves a note that I don't even remember what

she said, basically be back in a few days something

like that. It's like, oh cool, yes, And so then

they're at a gas station. Roki goes into the gas

station and she sees on the news that she's an

Amber alert. Yea Jackson as her kidnappers. So both their

pictures are like on the news.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say before that, I thought like,

as a reminder, Nancy is annoying, but because it's like

literally just a sentence, Nancy's annoying. But because Frank does

not want even though he's like a shitty father, like

very absent, he does not want to call and report

that Roki and but Jack took Roky. And Nancy's like,

it's in our responsibility, like we signed this and we

have to and she convinces him yes.

Speaker 2: And this is where part of what I was talking about,

like the boot liquor thing, where it's like we're just

doing our jobs. We're just following what the system is said.

And it's like that's his daughter, Like he himself knows

that Roki is safe with Jack's, but he let his

stupid bitch wife convince him to call and report her

as apper somebody that also already has a record. So

it's like, okay, so she's gonna like go back to prison.

Speaker 1: She's gonna do that time again, and like why would

you do that? And he knows, he even said, he's

like they'll be back, like I know that she's gonna

bring her back.

Speaker 2: I know where they're going. I know it's not like

they ran away forever. Like yeah, that did make me mad.

Thank you for mentioning that. So after Rookie sees that

they're on the nude, she like rushes back to the

car and she's acting kind of weird, but she won't

she doesn't want to tell Jack's what happens. And then

they go to a makeup counter to get a lipstick

for Tawi, which is like so sad because they're like,

you know, we have to give this to her when

we see her because she's going to be at the PAS.

Speaker 1: She was like what, she doesn't know what shade exactly.

She's like trying on shades. I think, doesn't Jack s

let her like.

Speaker 2: Try the shades on because she probably has like similar.

Speaker 1: She's like, oh, yeah, it's that color.

Speaker 2: I'm like yes, and it's like oh. She shows the

lady at the makeup counter the missing poster picture of

her mom and.

Speaker 1: The lady, and the lady was like, I'm sorry I

should mention that far, but it was like so sad.

Speaker 2: The lady then is like, yeah, okay, I know just

the one I got you hear her? Yeah, And so anyway,

then then they get the lipstick and then uh, I

think they steal. Rokie steals a woman's keys and wallet,

so that they can take her car, so that's like

at the mall. And then she also is like, oh

my god, this lady has a gun. She doesn't tell

Jacks about it. She just like just sleeping gun. And

so they they drive in the new car to a

house and Jax knocks on the door and is like,

I'm Tawie's sister, and they let her in, and this

older woman tells Jax that Tawi owes her money, So like,

if I knew where she was, I would be the

one like finding her basically because she owes me money.

You can tell that this is a drug house because

the other people are in the background and they're like

they're like like yes of drugs or whatever. They're like

measuring stuff, and so that older lady that she's talking

to is like the boss lady, and she's mad because

she's like, why the fuck would you come to my house?

Speaker 1: Do you? Like? Yeah?

Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like the cops are after you. Why would

you stop at my house?

Speaker 1: Now?

Speaker 2: The cops are gonna come to my house. So then

I think this might be Rokie's grandma, but I don't know.

They said something about like this hit her son. The

old lady talked about her son. So I was like,

is the son.

Speaker 1: No her dad? Wait? What are you talking about?

Speaker 2: I don't know.

Speaker 1: No, wait at the house. Yeah, that's Boo's mom.

Speaker 2: Oh just kidding.

Speaker 1: I was like, because JJ Colden was like he's like

helping her, he's like giving her information. And he's like,

they saw her there in the red truck with like

another dude that was not Boo and that's his mom.

Speaker 2: Okay, okay, never mind, it's not Rokie's dad's mom. So

then that lady threatens her, like with a gun to

get the fuck out, and she gets out. But then

this younger girl is like, hey, I just wanted to

tell you that Tawie used to come to the house

with a man in a red truck. So now she

has a hint that there's a red truck. And so

once they're back in the car, Jack says they need

to get off the road for a while. So she

goes to like a random vacant house and they hang

out there and then Jack's calls JJ and then she

hangs up and throws her phone in the pool because

I think she can tell they're trying to track her

phone or something. And then Jax goes to sleep and

she wakes up to Rokie telling her that she started

her first period. And then they do like a ritual

with ash on Rokie's hands and then she like washes

them in the pool, and then they go out to

eat to celebrate. It's like a little celebration, and I

love this. I wish that more people did celebrations when

you like get your first period, because I remember I

was really excited when I got my first period because

I felt like I'm a woman. I was eleven. I

was not a woman, but I felt like, oh my god,

and like my mom was like, oh, it sucks for you.

Now you're gonna have to experience this like I do,

you know, But I wanted there to be like a celebration,

Oh my god, you got yeah. And so then they

go to get period products and I just sigh. Bar

had to mention that I think it's really fucking stupid

that you have to pay for period products. We didn't

choose to bleed. They should be provided for free. They

should be so this is dumb. So anyway, Rokie blood

through her pants. She she did steal some products from

the oh.

Speaker 1: Yeah, she was trying to Jack's was like, no, just.

Speaker 2: Don't steal from there. Anyway, they get stopped by what

we think is just a regular cop at first, so

I was like, Oh, they're gonna get busted from shopol thing. No,

they got stopped by Ice yea. And Ice is just

obviously just being racist. He's like, oh, look at these

brown people coming out of the store. Uh, what's your name?

What's your ID? Blah blah blah. And so then Jax

gives Tawi's ID because she knows that she has like

a record, so she's waking her ID. And then the

Ice agent like puts Roki in the car at some point,

and like Roki is like sitting there and she like

is looking at the domes. She's like holding them anyway,

then he lets them go and then they're like laughing

as they walk away because Roki's I let all over

that guy's car. And so then they go to a

hotel and Jack's goes outside while Rokie showering, and she

calls JJ and she's like, you know, we need to

be looking for a red truck. He and then Jack's

is like, we need to get the truth for Rokie.

Like it's so sad. She thinks that her mom is

going to show up, and there's no way she's going

to show up, and then Roki hears that she's like saying,

so then she's really sad, and so then we also

go to the strip club, like cut to the strip club.

JJ asks Sapphire about the red truck and she tells

him there's a guy that used to party with the

girls and Boo at the lake, and so JJ goes

to the lake and then to the drug dealer Boo's store,

and he asks Boo, have you heard from Jack's and

to let him know, and then he asks, hey, you

still have that boat? Can I rent your boat tomorrow

or whatever? Out Yeah, So he's like okay, cool, and

so he gives him the keys, and so JJ starts

looking around the salvage yard and he finds a red

truck and then he opens the truck door and looks concerned, but.

Speaker 1: They don't tell us what's happening, but like, I guess

it's like they found the red truck and he's like yeah, no,

and it's like all like.

Speaker 2: But it doesn't look kind of dramatic when he like

opens it and then he's like yeah, yeah, so I

guess we know it's probably the right red truck. And

so then we cut to Jackson Roki at another gas station.

Roki goes into the bathroom. The clerk is like, oh fuck,

I know them and calls the cops. And then Rogie

hears him calling the cops, and she takes out the

gun and threatens him with it, but she doesn't know

how to handle a gun, and she accidentally shoots him.

Speaker 1: She shoots him, She shoots him Mayby, She doesn't kill him,

it's just the shoulder.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. And then Jacks runs in because she hears

the gun show what the what the fuck? And then

she's like, oh my god, we call namber one. So

she like calls namber one for an ambulance. She's like,

there's a guy that got shot here. I'm at this

gas station. And then she's like we have to run.

Like he's not going to die, it's only a shoulder,

but like we can't be here y, and so she's like, uh,

they see a truck pull in, and so then they're

like extra freaked out because they're like they're gonna say

so they like run out the back of the store

by foot, and then Rokie's like, oh my god, no,

I forgot my bag. We need to go back, and

she's like, are you fucking kidding me? Rokie like, we

can't go back. You're not going to go to prison.

They are saying, I kidnap you and now you shot someone.

You know, she's going to take the blame for it,

so she's gonna go to prison like forever. And she's like,

you know what you lied to me about my mom,

Like I'm mad at you, basically like you. Then they

do this thing that I thought was really important. They

use their native language, uh I believe it's called kyuga.

The word for aunt in their language translates directly to

small mother. She's like tell her. She's telling Jock.

Speaker 1: She's like, what does it mean? And she's like because

she's like, you're constantly putting me in these like agerous situations.

And she's like, but I'm like, you know, I'm just

trying to do the best I can. But she's like, no,

you're like my mother, you know, so like why are

you doing this?

Speaker 2: Yeah, and so that was kind of like an intense

type of moment. And then and then they kind of separate,

like Roki runs the other way. She's like yeah, So

Jaxa is like, okay, I guess she's really going back

for her bag, and so jax keeps running and then

we cut to seeing Grandpa Frank and Nancy, and Nancy

answering the phone and telling Frank they found her, and

then we cut to Jack's all alone on a bench

smoking and she pulls out a satchel that she has.

I think it's like a protection satchel, yes, and she

empties some out and she starts singing and calling for

Tawi and then she drops the contents on the ground

and then she's just crying and then she calls the

grandpa and he says he needs her to get back,

and he is like, kind of crying. I think he's like,

I fucked it all up. I fucked it up. And

Jaxa is like, she's like.

Speaker 1: Oh, he's like Rokey, where's you? And Roky need to

get back.

Speaker 2: Yeah. She's like what, She's like, well, what is Roki whatever?

They start talking about Rokey and he's like, Roki's with

you and she's like, no, they caught and so anyway,

Rokie is not with him, and so he tells her, okay, well,

they found Howie's body in the Lake. So basically, unfortunately,

what I think we kind of all knew was gonna happen.

She's not coming back. She is dead, and so they

found her body, and so she is like, dang, we

need to find we need to find Roki. And so

jax ends up hitching a ride to the pow Wow

with a trucker and she finds Roki there. She they

end up.

Speaker 1: Oh no, I was gonna say, like how because she does.

She doesn't dance during the mother daughter thing. She dances

for the memorial of like all the sing Native woman

and the ones that have been murdered, and I was like, oh,

it's so sad. So she like kind of I feel

like she knows. And then that's when Jack Caesar, She's like,

oh my god. And then they.

Speaker 2: Danced together at the for the missing and.

Speaker 1: Murdered, and I love it too, because like even with Jack,

she's doesn't like you can tell obviously she doesn't do

that with Roki and Tawi, but she knows.

Speaker 2: And she's she's like, I need to need to do that. Okay.

So I could not stop crying, and I wrote Jaxon

is probably going to prison, which wow, I'm a downer,

but this is true, I wrote, Jackson is probably going

to prison, which means that Roki will have lost her

mother and her small mother. I mean she can still

contact Jack's like letters and visit her, but she's probably

going to have to live with her Grandpa Frank and

Nancy if Jax goes to prison.

Speaker 1: Uh.

Speaker 2: So that that was the end. It was. It was sad.

It was like realistic, real life things that happen. But

I like that even though we knew that it was

going to not turn out well, they ended in sort

of like a I thought it was a good ending,

like not positive, but also not like such like they

were really like connecting. Yeah, and that I think Rokie

really understands her mom's not coming back, even then they

haven't officially told her. Yeah, she like, yeah, So that

was really sad. Guys. Sorry, I made everybody watch. Hopefully

you watched it, Watch and listen to a sad movie.

But I think it's really good and I think it's

really important. I don't think that there are enough movies

or shows that are about Native Americans. If you're looking

for something that is meaningful about Native Americans but also

a little bit lighthearted, watch res Dogs. Oh, my god,

you watch it's so good. I watched all the seasons.

At first, I was like, am I too old for

this because they're like teenagers, but like, it's really good.

And Brandon Boyd from Incubus isn't it at one point?

And he plays like a homeless man that looks like Jesus,

so they call him white Jesus. So every time we

hear Incubus, we're like, white Jesus. Anyway you're gonna line

or not? Yes, I'm like, yeah, watch it, it's good.

And then there was another thing recently I can't remember.

We saw one of the young actors from that in

something else and we were like, oh my god, it's

good Red Dogs AnyWho. So well, uh, we'll go to

another lighter thing. So I thought about not doing a

munch Merge murder for this because it's so serious and

how are we going to talk about this? And then

we're like, munch Merge Murder, Yeah, but I need to

because I also needed to obviously talk about how hot

I think Jackson. Yeah, so we're still going to do it. Okay,

it might be kind of obvious what the answers will be.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 2: So I think the options I put.

Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Ricky and Nancy. I need to put Sapphire

because I think instead of Nancy.

Speaker 2: Yes, because obviously yeah Nancy. Yeah. But then yeah, okay,

oh but now we have to kill someone we want.

Yeah see, okay, sorry, well I'll give you time to

think about it. I'll say, okay, yeah, so I would.

I would merge with Jacks. I could. I could change her,

you know, like, I know she's kind of a fucked

boy lesbian, but I could be the one. You're gonna

support her through prison? Yes, Oh my god, I'm gonna

be a prisoner. Oh my god. I would be I

love during lockup and when she finally gets out, we're

gonna be on love after lock up. Oh my god,

makes so much money. And I would munch Sapphire, and

I guess I would kill I would kill Ricky, not

because I don't think that she's a good person, but

because they barely showed her. I'm not even sure if

that was her name. I think it was.

Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, so you're getting it right this time.

Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, what about you?

Speaker 1: Honestly, my answers are the same. Merge with Jack's munch Sapphire,

and then sadly murder Ricky just because there's not enough

screen time, so.

Speaker 2: It's kind of irrelevant. Yeah, yeah, okay, So what would

you rate this movie on a scale of one to

five cherries.

Speaker 1: This was a really good movie, and I obviously am

overlooking the fact that it was not gay enough. I

feel like for a good reason, like you said, like

it's just showing someone, like, it's just showing real life

and somebody who happens to be a lesbian. I give

this five out of five cherries.

Speaker 2: Oh my god, me too. It's a bigger deal that

Angelina did that, because I don't think you've given anything

gait did you? Did you give?

Speaker 3: No?

Speaker 1: I give something a four point five?

Speaker 2: Okay, right, No, I don't know.

Speaker 1: I don't. I'm sorry, guys. I'll go back and see,

but I don't think so. Maybe I'm being really critical.

Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but this was a really good movie and

I saw it. I kept telling people about it, and

I think I already talked about this at the beginning

of the episode. But it needs more attention than it got.

It was really good, and I don't know if it's

because it was an Apple TV movie that it didn't

get as much attention. I don't know, but it is

really good. I also would give it five out of five.

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but this is kind of a special edition because it's

not specifically WLW, but it is history, and everything is intersectional. Right.

If it isn't intersectional, it isn't justice. So where I'm

going with this is I really want to tell you

all if you don't know about what IQUA is, which

is the Indian Child Welfare Act. It's mentioned in this

and it is very important. So let's go back to

the seventies. So up until nineteen seventy eight, Native American

children were being removed from their homes by Child Protective

Services at like extremely high rates in comparison to other races.

And I mean basically this is it's based on racism,

it's based on not understanding other cultures. I mean, I

think you know, still to this day, there are higher

rates of Native American children being removed, higher rates of

Black children, higher rates of LATINX children than there are

of white children being removed. And this is something that

you know from working in CWS in the past, is

being worked on and constantly looked at and like, how

can we be more culturally sensitive? Like I know that

there's a training that we we did with new social

workers about just different marks in different cultures and how

some some people of non white races are more prevalently

born with this specific type of birthmark. I can't remember

what it's called, but a lot of kids were getting

removed because they were like, you beat your kid like

he had but but it's a specific type of birthmark

that some children with like darker skin, are born with

and it fades over time.

Speaker 1: So that's interesting.

Speaker 2: I didn't know, Yes, yes, So I was glad that

that was mentioned because I had never heard of that.

But I think it's because that was something in the

past that had come up where people were removing them,

and it was because it's all, yeah, that makes sense,

and so so wow, my voice did a weird thing.

But so I mean probably a lot of you know this,

but you know, years and years ago Native American children

were removed and they were put into schools where they

had to only learn English and they had to assimilate

with white culture, and a lot of the languages and

cultures were really lost for a lot of people. And

that was also happening when they were being removed from

by Child Protective Services. They were being placed with mostly

white families, so they were losing their culture in that way.

So in nineteen seventy eight, the Indian Child Welfare Act

was introduced and approved made law, and what it does

is whenever a child is removed in anywhere in America

by Child Protective Services, it's required that the parents and

the family, any family that they can get in contact with,

are asked if there's any association with any tribe, are

they Native American in any way? What could the tribes be?

And they have to do a whole search for anybody

in that tribe and try to connect them with it

and have them placed with someone within the tribe. And

so for like all the other yes, So it's it

is why Jack said at one point, you can't do this.

You can't take Indian kids and put them with somebody else.

Have they have to stay with family? And they said, well,

he is family, he's the grandpa. So that was kind

of like a way around it because he is related,

but he's not, you know, keeping her connected with her

culture that is so important to her. So there is

a thing within foster care kids we would always try

to play with a relative, but there's also something called

a non related extended family member. That could be a

family friend, that could be someone that is a member

of the same tribe, someone else that lives like you know,

it can be like a neighbor. Like sometimes that happens

where if a kid is older, right, they're like a teenager,

they're like, well can I live with Like my best friend,

her mom said that I could live with them, and

then that if that parent agrees, they have to apply

and go through all the same things to be a

foster parent like Jack's had to do, but like you

can become their foster parent.

Speaker 1: You know what I was thinking to now that you

said that, like the extended even like they're saying obviously

Frank and Nancy because that's her grandpa. I guess it's

like the obvious answer, But why not with JJ, that's

her uncle, I know, right, But is it because he's

like too busy working on the case or yeah, right, Like.

Speaker 2: Is it also this like structural and internalized racism that

they're They're like, she'll be safer because look they have

this like nice house and yeah they're white. I don't know,

but basically, uh, I just wanted to talk about what

EQUA is because it is a central part of the movie.

And Native American kids are to be placed with family

or a non related extended family member that is a

member of their tribe, or if they can't find someone

from their specific tribe, at least someone that is native

that can help them. That is always the goal. And

another thing is that reunification is always the goal. I mean,

I don't know if it's like that everywhere, but that's

something that we always talked about in my county. We're

always trying to get the parents to do what they

need to do to be able to get their kids back,

because you know, the kids want to be with their parent,

even if their parent was not making good choices, right,

they love their mom. They want to be back with them,

So that is always the goal. So I can maybe

put some resources about Iqua in the captions in the details,

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