00:00.57
Vance π
Welcome back to Right Quick.
00:02.78
Nandi K
A bite-sized pop culture conversation with your favorite queer unfriendly black hotties.
00:08.69
Vance π
We're unfriendly today because all white reality casts with dating shows specifically. I am Vance Gowe.
00:14.17
Nandi K
Ugh. And I'm Nandi K. All white cast. Man, the white supremacy agenda is really back in full effect in 2026.
00:22.81
Vance π
Right? Right. Like, it feels like, oh, damn, I didn't put traitors on here. But anyway, we're we're getting it. um It feels like that's like the subplot of this shit. No, I mean, it's always there, but like, how they getting rid of all the blacks and browns on traitors.
00:32.98
Nandi K
Yeah.
00:37.63
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
00:38.86
Vance π
then, I mean, even Drag Race. Like, not that I'm surprised.
00:40.92
Nandi K
I mean, but that's every season on Traitors.
00:42.55
Vance π
Right, right, right. That's very true. But, you know, no, but like, Ru will let a nigga win every other... Because the black queens are undeniable.
00:48.25
Nandi K
Ru will. Rue will.
00:50.23
Vance π
But in... But like what happened last episode, even though it literally was a black. Wait, OK, disregard. But.
00:59.70
Vance π
But then love is blind.
01:00.43
Nandi K
I, eyes emoji's.
01:01.30
Vance π
Right, right. Not it's still February.
01:03.45
Nandi K
Yeah, this season of Love is Blind particularly is like extra super white. And I'm a big Real Housewives watcher, except for the cast that are fully black.
01:10.62
Vance π
Right.
01:16.65
Nandi K
Like even some of those casts are getting whiter if that was even possible. Today we're talking about reality TV, y'all.
01:24.28
Vance π
If you haven't caught it, yeah. So, um well, one of us is fake and one of us loves reality.
01:32.82
Nandi K
Yeah, I'm real. I love reality TV. I don't pretend that I don't to seem like, you know, intellectual and cultured to our friends who have PhDs and the academics.
01:41.44
Vance π
Monocle. Where's my monocle? You know, i liked I like to read all my friends, my doctors.
01:48.18
Nandi K
i love reality TV.
01:50.46
Nandi K
I think it's such an incredible little microcosm of our society to be able to see like, human behavior and I just like really enjoy it and I enjoy a lot of the people that come out of it because I like people who are like who feel really authentic
02:09.34
Vance π
Right. So I will say, yeah, I say love hate because there always feels like a tension inside of me. Right. But that's for the ones that like, I know I shouldn't be watching.
02:19.74
Vance π
it will get to it. But like for the other ones, same. I agree with you where it's just like, this is people and it's a time, it's a timestamp.
02:25.62
Nandi K
yeah
02:27.34
Vance π
Right. Because like, even like America's next top model, it is very like indicative of the times that we were in and going back to, right?
02:33.59
Nandi K
Baby. Mm-hmm.
02:35.98
Vance π
Like what all the life fat, the fat phobia and like the skinny, like all that shit, like work.
02:38.00
Nandi K
Mm-hmm. 2000 skinny, baby.
02:41.50
Vance π
Right. We're getting to it. Right. So like, it is important to like uphold those stories, especially when these motherfuckers are liars and they're trying to erase history in live action.
02:52.48
Vance π
It's like, Oh, this is how we was acting in 20, whatever, you know? But, um but yeah.
02:55.67
Nandi K
Yep, exactly. Yeah. Well, how did you start out with reality? I feel like our generation, millennials, we've had a lot of our life with reality TV, but what are kind of your earliest memories?
03:11.35
Vance π
Right. So, I mean, I wrote here that like I was here when it started and I'm joking because I think like real world, real world came out like 91 or something, 92, I think the first season.
03:16.01
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
03:19.06
Nandi K
Four. Yeah, something like that, yeah.
03:20.71
Vance π
So I was, I was two years old. So like, obviously I wasn't aware of that, but like, you know, when it started shifting and it became more competition based and not so much, just like a docuseries, um, we were there.
03:32.38
Vance π
Right. So like American idol,
03:33.46
Nandi K
yep
03:35.61
Vance π
I got AMNT, America's Next Top Model, which, you know, is a big talking point right now. Making the band, Flavor of Love, Gordon Ramsay in general, of The Challenge, Fear Factor, the...
03:41.88
Nandi K
Oh man. Yeah.
03:45.59
Nandi K
In general, dead.
03:48.25
Nandi K
Not his show, him.
03:50.49
Vance π
Right, like, the whole nigga, white nigga. And then I got the circle in here. I got married on first sight. And I mean, I know I skipped over a couple decades, but um yeah.
04:01.11
Nandi K
Sure.
04:02.02
Vance π
what What about you? What you on?
04:03.35
Nandi K
Yeah, my first reality show ever was definitely the real world. It was the Hawaii season, which I think is 1994 1996. That's the one. Did Ruthie make me, gay? Yeah.
04:14.04
Vance π
Damn.
04:15.61
Nandi K
ah rule
04:15.64
Vance π
Who was, who was, was it Ruthie? Was Ruthie in that? Oh, that was big.
04:18.70
Nandi K
that's the one
04:19.64
Vance π
Yeah. Okay. Okay.
04:20.44
Nandi K
did ruthie make me gay
04:23.81
Vance π
Uh, uh, awakening. Awaken.
04:25.82
Nandi K
Okay, actually, real world is in 99. So I'm actually, this is my first season that I'm fully conscious enough to actually really understand what's going on.
04:35.35
Vance π
Yeah. Know what's going on.
04:36.46
Nandi K
So shout out to that being my first like real memory. So in 99, I'm 11, turned 11 in 1999. ah ten eleven i turned eleven and ninety ninety nine So, yeah, Ruthie, i remember her being drunk as fuck.
04:51.70
Vance π
Yeah, in the shower.
04:52.08
Nandi K
And also I was really, i was really attracted to Ruthie.
04:52.58
Vance π
And they put her in the shower.
04:56.89
Vance π
Yeah, hot brown lady.
04:57.05
Nandi K
um And she's apparently, i just saw a picture her. She is Sagittarius.
05:01.91
Vance π
Still hot.
05:03.80
Nandi K
She's even hotter now. She got an undercut. She got a slick back. She got her sides shaved. Ooh, we wouldn't work because she's as Sagittarius but week a we could have fun for a while.
05:09.24
Vance π
She a lesbian?
05:15.51
Vance π
and she Is she a lesbian?
05:16.95
Nandi K
Yeah, for sure.
05:18.68
Vance π
Yeah, I remember that season. I was nine. So I remember i just remember the the whole shower thing where like they put ass in the shower and like cool off.
05:25.39
Nandi K
Ciao.
05:28.06
Nandi K
Yeah, she was fucked up.
05:28.54
Vance π
All right.
05:29.26
Nandi K
Ruthie was fucked up for that whole season. Yeah, that's like my first... The real world is definitely my first kind of like segue.
05:33.62
Vance π
Yep.
05:36.79
Nandi K
And then I would say it's like the real world. And then I would say WWF SmackDown. And then after that, then American Idol.
05:45.76
Vance π
Oh, yeah. Yeah, same.
05:49.30
Nandi K
Because I think that's like actually in order of time. Because American Idol is like... I guess wrestling would be first technically.
05:58.17
Vance π
Well, yeah, wrestling, I come from a wrestling family. So wrestling has always been there for just in a background. Like I wasn't even a biggest fan, but my cousin and my aunt loved it. So we I was a wrestling you know wrestling family.
06:09.30
Nandi K
Yeah, I loved it. I loved it. Yeah, and so I loved that. And then American Idol, I got. Then they married my two fucking interests of like I wanted to be a singer when I was like a kid growing up.
06:14.49
Vance π
Which like changed the game.
06:21.45
Nandi K
i was like, I'm go be a singer when I grew up. Then they had American Idol, baby, my queen, Kelly, Kellisha, Kellandria Clarkson.
06:29.02
Vance π
uh uh Kellante
06:34.81
Nandi K
my queen.
06:37.75
Vance π
yeah yeah um I remember where I was in that first season because, like, we were staying with my grandma for the summer, me and my sister and my two cousins. And we it came on, and I feel like you could feel it in the room.
06:51.08
Vance π
Like, what is this? And we were dying at the auditions, and Simon Cowell being evil, and Paula, what's her name, being drunk, and Randy Jackson.
06:52.70
Nandi K
Oh man, yeah.
06:58.26
Nandi K
um my God. Man, it's a no for me, dawg.
07:01.85
Vance π
Like, Right. It was like, what is this? And I don't feel like it was anything like it before. And so it was just like, what?
07:08.92
Nandi K
No, no, not at all.
07:09.25
Vance π
it Yeah. ah Yeah. You could feel it. ah Like, I remember it.
07:12.82
Nandi K
Yeah, I definitely feel like that it really started shifting like what reality TV could be like. That's when we started really seeing the rise of like competition in
07:24.89
Vance π
Right. And personalities and evil judges.
07:26.87
Nandi K
Yeah, like, because you have, like, the challenge on here. Like, that was one of my first competition reality shows. Like, Real World Road Rules the challenge.
07:33.94
Vance π
Love her.
07:35.76
Nandi K
Fear Factor was another one.
07:36.35
Vance π
Yup. Yup. Fear factor, guess.
07:38.46
Nandi K
And then, should we talk about Legends of the Hidden Temple and, like, Global Guts?
07:42.42
Vance π
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
07:43.50
Nandi K
Oh, my God. Legends of the Hidden Temple.
07:45.06
Vance π
That's pre...
07:46.11
Nandi K
OG.
07:47.10
Vance π
That's pre-everything we just said. Yeah, because I was like 90s.
07:49.58
Nandi K
Oh, my God.
07:49.94
Vance π
Yeah.
07:51.10
Nandi K
Wow. Yeah. Those were also, wow, early in the game.
07:52.25
Vance π
um Then Double Dare has to be on there.
07:55.20
Nandi K
Nickelodeon.
07:57.98
Vance π
It was like Double Dare.
07:58.26
Nandi K
what does oh double dare oh my god yeah but i wonder if like double dare would count more as like a game show i wonder like what is the difference between like a game show and like a reality competition show
07:59.18
Vance π
I think it was Double Dare. You remember her? They had them shirts.
08:12.52
Vance π
Huh? I think I think it's the like the focus on the personalities and like could like in American Idol, like aside from the contestants, the judges are a big part of like why we watch it.
08:23.26
Nandi K
yeah for sure
08:25.26
Vance π
And then like that becomes a thing.
08:26.23
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah, and I guess that's the thing that, like, look global guts and, like, Double Dare Legislative Temple doesn't have.
08:27.48
Vance π
And like, oh, what is.
08:31.42
Vance π
They didn't have all that.
08:33.58
Nandi K
Yeah.
08:34.10
Vance π
like they have more of a Pat Sajak, right?
08:34.42
Nandi K
Yeah.
08:36.26
Vance π
Where like, he ain't gonna say nothing crazy. He's a straight man. Whereas like, Simon Cowell is not a straight man.
08:38.78
Nandi K
Right.
08:41.38
Vance π
Like he's gonna be cussing you out and calling you anything but, you know, Jesus, child of God.
08:42.39
Nandi K
Nah.
08:44.86
Nandi K
Calling you a cunt. Calling you a cow.
08:46.26
Vance π
why Right, right. And Paula gonna be on that, off that perk. yeah
08:53.68
Nandi K
That's Paula Abdul.
08:55.19
Vance π
ah
08:58.42
Nandi K
um What do you really like love about reality?
08:58.52
Vance π
But yeah, also...
09:01.86
Nandi K
like What do you think like keeps you coming back to reality? Especially because you said you have a love-hate relationship with it. like What keeps you there, though?
09:12.44
Vance π
I think is what we talked about. like just like I'm interested in so people. I'm also interested in stories.
09:18.04
Vance π
And I think reality marries those two interests. um Also, I have here reality editing.
09:21.88
Nandi K
Yeah.
09:24.32
Vance π
You and I talk about that a lot. We're like,
09:26.58
Nandi K
We love it.
09:27.06
Vance π
I love reality. I love American reality TV editing. I think like it is like, it's the best. Like when I'm working from home on days that I'm working from home, like i could just put on like survivor and don't know what's going on.
09:34.62
Nandi K
itβs so funny.
09:41.71
Vance π
But like the music is telling you what you need to be feeling.
09:43.86
Nandi K
Sure, how you should feel, yeah.
09:44.96
Vance π
Or like, Oh, my favorite thing about reality editing is when like a girl is just like, this week is my week. And in that bitch goes home. Like the story, and the storytelling
09:53.94
Nandi K
Cause you know that's what's about to happen.
09:56.41
Vance π
Or she fucking eats and and gets first or whatever, right? But like, but the fact that we don't know, we know it's going to be one or the other, but like, we don't know. Like, that is what's so riveting about it.
10:07.35
Vance π
when When they eat shit.
10:07.54
Nandi K
I really like, yeah, shady shots.
10:10.90
Vance π
Yeah.
10:11.26
Nandi K
That's my favorite reality TV edit. Like when they show cut to a bitch feet, cut to a bitch shoes, cut to a bitch toes, cut to something very shady, a shady detailed shot, a bitch's wig that like has nothing to do what's going on.
10:16.47
Vance π
Right. up it's
10:24.06
Vance π
Right. Right.
10:26.35
Aaron Rand Freeman
Thank you.
10:28.70
Vance π
Right.
10:28.94
Nandi K
Nothing has to do with this. They said, whoop, it's a second. It's gone. I'm like, did you see that?
10:36.09
Vance π
Right. Or like if you say something and then they cut to you saying the opposite thing or like,
10:41.30
Nandi K
That's my favorite also.
10:42.99
Vance π
Tyra Banks being like, I don't have nothing to do with production. And then next shot, is executive producer Tyra Banks.
10:47.26
Nandi K
i became a master editor.
10:49.24
Vance π
Right? Like, that's so that's so funny. It's so good. It's storytelling. It is like, it's tongue in cheek. It's kind of campy. Like, yeah. So those are all things I like about reality TV.
10:57.66
Nandi K
Chyle.
11:00.98
Nandi K
Yeah, I really... Yeah, the editing is so good. And like you said, the music.
11:04.54
Vance π
Top notch.
11:05.22
Nandi K
I also really like the personalities. I see that you have my queen on here, Tiffany, New York Pollard, who...
11:15.54
Vance π
Yeah.
11:16.91
Nandi K
walked so ALL these bitches could run.
11:18.71
Vance π
Right. Right.
11:19.63
Nandi K
Literally, she's the fucking blueprint of Black women on reality TV. We stand. I love her. I love Joseline Hernandez.
11:30.14
Nandi K
I love Cardi B.
11:30.73
Vance π
Uh-uh, I hate
11:32.18
Nandi K
No, I love Joseline Hernandez. I love Joseline Hernandez.
11:35.04
Vance π
her. You're evil.
11:36.06
Nandi K
I love NeNe Leakes. I love all these women who like are new versions of
11:37.94
Vance π
NeNe Lee, she has.
11:45.05
Nandi K
new york po Tiffany New York Pollard because Jocelyn is just another version of New York.
11:50.20
Vance π
Yeah. um A thing that we're... I mean, I know we're talking about, like, Black... Like, we're... I mean, it's us. We're talking about Black people.
11:57.76
Nandi K
Sure.
11:57.89
Vance π
But i what I love about, like, reality is it's, like, even that, right? Like, it's documenting all these different types of black people, like, how dynamic we are, how we change the game always, right?
12:08.47
Nandi K
Yeah.
12:10.47
Vance π
Because, like, it reminds me black Twitter. Obviously, it's pre-Black Twitter.
12:12.76
Nandi K
Sure.
12:13.71
Vance π
But, like you like, New York is a normal person for the most part. I mean, she's not. But you know what I mean? Like... They found her somewhere. She applied for that dumb show. And then now we still talking about her because like undeniable, the personality.
12:25.30
Vance π
And it's just a personality like.
12:27.35
Nandi K
Yeah, yeah. And obviously obviously, she's a professional now, and like she's really like honed that New York personality that we love her for on House of Villains.
12:28.95
Vance π
And like all these.
12:32.15
Vance π
Now, yes.
12:39.37
Nandi K
like New York is still out here. like She is the queen.
12:43.51
Vance π
Eating the girls up.
12:44.05
Nandi K
She's still out here. people are like People talk about how professional she is to work with. like
12:51.16
Vance π
Right. I just...
12:51.74
Nandi K
Kandy Muse talked about working with her House of Villains.
12:52.02
Vance π
and just
12:54.14
Nandi K
was like... she's so professional she's that bitch she just when she's not working she wants her blunt she wants people to leave her alone that's it i said i love my queen who do you like do you have some favorite stars
13:10.94
Vance π
I literally only had New York on here because I was trying to think like, so I don't watch Housewives. So that's like a blind spot for me. um When we talk about my shows, like Love is Blind and like I have a um'm I'm stuck in a what's the other one?
13:19.06
Nandi K
yeah
13:26.30
Vance π
Married at First Sight.
13:28.09
Nandi K
Yep.
13:28.76
Vance π
Hands down, I'm most toxic.
13:28.94
Nandi K
I'm glad we're talking about this. This is an intervention.
13:30.94
Vance π
hands, hands down my most toxic.
13:31.58
Nandi K
no I'm just kidding.
13:33.37
Vance π
No, I mean, I'll take it.
13:34.40
Nandi K
Definitely, yeah, there's no one to like on those shows.
13:34.41
Vance π
Hands down my most toxic relationship.
13:37.04
Nandi K
Yeah.
13:37.20
Vance π
They're not like, I mean the judges, but I don't like them enough to be talk about them.
13:40.95
Nandi K
No, they suck.
13:41.07
Vance π
Right. So like
13:41.71
Nandi K
They keep setting these people up with bad people. Mm-hmm.
13:44.66
Vance π
and Black people, they keep bringing a Black woman on there to be tormented. And I'll watch every, well, I'm actually out of it right now, but like what definitely my worst toxic, most toxic relationship. i'm trying to think, I mean, Gordon Ramsey, I,
13:56.28
Nandi K
You are delivered.
13:59.77
Vance π
For now. We watch we watch um House the Bad Boys.
14:01.02
Nandi K
but now
14:07.38
Nandi K
oh on zeus oh my god i'm so glad we're bringing up zeus i meant to write it down so i couldn't forget talking about the worst of the worst now i gotta say that was when i had to really sit with myself i had to look in a mirror i had to get a mirror i had to say nandi
14:07.38
Vance π
The Bad Boys show. all life
14:25.88
Nandi K
Is this who you are?
14:27.53
Vance π
It's not, Nandi.
14:27.64
Nandi K
Is this who you're going to And I decided, no, I'm not that person.
14:29.24
Vance π
not It's not. It's not. It can't be.
14:32.47
Nandi K
And I can be better. And I got rid of Zeus. I don't watch any of that trash. I think it was after the Bobby Lytes show.
14:37.69
Vance π
We, I have.
14:40.25
Nandi K
I was like, nah.
14:42.46
Vance π
Listen, again, oh I didn't mention it. Another thing I like about reality is talking about it with my friends, right?
14:48.41
Nandi K
Yeah.
14:48.44
Vance π
Like, I, I avoid, but that's why I avoid these shows because I know once I get in there and I understand the story, bitch, I'm in there, you know?
14:49.14
Nandi K
ah
14:52.73
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
14:56.43
Vance π
So, a Black Ink Crew, Nandi. I had COVID. I was stuck in the house. All I had was a TV and an internet connection. I watched the whole thing.
15:06.65
Nandi K
Wow.
15:07.51
Vance π
and I'm blessed for it. i You know?
15:09.05
Nandi K
I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, I have watched all of Black Ink, but I watch stuff like that. I don't watch Black Ink anymore. I watched Black Ink when I lived in New York, though, because it was I lived there, and it was very close to me.
15:21.82
Vance π
very New York. Yeah, it's very New York.
15:25.40
Nandi K
So, yeah.
15:25.46
Vance π
Yeah. Anyway, yeah, them niggas.
15:27.54
Nandi K
But that wasn't one of my favorites at all.
15:29.59
Vance π
No, I just was down the hall.
15:30.14
Nandi K
I was like, this is not their best work.
15:33.18
Vance π
i was just down the hall. Okay.
15:35.32
Nandi K
Yeah, that wasn't that wasn't their their best work.
15:40.15
Vance π
Okay, so I just want to hit you with like, just the highlights from your whole career. I know we talked about it, but i kind of want to hear why, right?
15:46.93
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
15:48.38
Vance π
So like, for example, making the band season two with ah Diddy.
15:48.92
Nandi K
Okay.
15:54.40
Vance π
I know we're not supposed to. I know we're not supposed to fuck with Diddy.
15:56.33
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
15:56.92
Vance π
We didn't know at the time.
15:57.40
Nandi K
We don't.
15:57.92
Vance π
Well, we should have knew.
15:58.81
Nandi K
We don't fuck with him.
15:59.00
Vance π
We should have knew. Fuck that nigga. But making the band season two with D-A-B-A-N-D, the band.
16:06.08
Nandi K
D-A-B-A-N-D.
16:07.26
Vance π
and
16:09.12
Aaron Rand Freeman
You
16:09.38
Nandi K
Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, DYLAN, and Dylan
16:14.44
Vance π
That like co-ed group with the stud lady and the light-skinned lady that sings, that was Sarah Stokes.
16:20.62
Nandi K
Babs, Sarah.
16:23.99
Vance π
Stokey, that was so niggerish and good.
16:25.05
Nandi K
Sarah Stokes.
16:28.38
Nandi K
It was great.
16:28.39
Vance π
That had me in a choke hold.
16:29.29
Nandi K
Babs and Ness and Fred got in a fight.
16:31.34
Vance π
Nas. Yup. Them niggas were throwing them. yeah So,
16:36.06
Nandi K
Dylan went and did fucking gigs by himself and got kicked out the band.
16:41.47
Vance π
trash. The cheesecake fiasco evil.
16:42.27
Nandi K
Truly, them walking...
16:45.42
Vance π
We should have knew the signs have been there.
16:47.10
Nandi K
Yeah, we definitely should have knew by that.
16:47.70
Vance π
Y'all should have knew
16:49.43
Nandi K
I also watched... My personal favorite making the band is actually the Day 26 one, which is, like, season four with the boy group.
16:55.51
Vance π
with the boy group, right? Is that the boy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
16:58.84
Nandi K
um Because now, do I feel like that's Diddy's most diabolical season? Like, when I see clips of it back, he says some real weird questionable shit, like...
17:10.58
Vance π
And which one? The D-A-B-A-N-D?
17:11.94
Nandi K
There's one where like they're singing like one of the songs or whatever. And then he was like, after they finished singing, cause you know, they used to sing hard as fuck.
17:21.08
Vance π
Yeah.
17:21.42
Nandi K
I'm singing so hard. After they finished, Diddy was like, that's good. But you know, you gotta, you gotta get naked on them. Nigga, what?
17:32.78
Vance π
Should have knew. The sign's been there. was right there.
17:35.35
Nandi K
Nigga, what?
17:36.60
Vance π
It was right there.
17:37.43
Nandi K
He did them very dirty. And we did get to watch that on TV. We got to watch them be like, they don't have no money on TV. And I was like, this is not making sense to me. um But that's my favorite um making the band season.
17:49.74
Vance π
making the band. You got any others?
17:52.06
Nandi K
Yeah.
17:53.31
Vance π
Because you said Housewives. I'm not, um that's my blind spot, but.
17:55.03
Nandi K
Oh, I'm a huge Housewives fan. I've watched almost every Housewives franchise. Now, i'm obviously now more only, I only watch the Black ones.
18:08.02
Vance π
Mm-hmm. Was that Potomac & Atlanta?
18:08.76
Nandi K
So now I'm like, my favorite seasons of Real Housewives of Atlanta are any of the seasons when NeNe motherfucking Leakes. NeNe Leakes is a national treasure.
18:19.58
Vance π
Yes.
18:19.98
Nandi K
She's a Sagitterrorits.
Nigtionary Moment:
Sagitterorist- a toxic narcissist Sagittarius. A Sagitarrian Terrorist, if you will. The likes of which includes: Tyra Banks, Britney Spears, & Nicki MAGAj
Nandi K.
She is deeply flawed and problematic, such as myself. And I need that kind of reputation, that kind of representation, not reputation. Don't think that I'm like NeNe Leakes. I'm not.
18:37.66
Nandi K
But the kind of Sagitterorist representation that she provides, love that. I already said Joseline Hernandez from the Love and Hip Hop fame, as well as I also don't fuck with Cardi B no more because she's been being fa phobic.
18:46.10
Vance π
ye
18:55.24
Nandi K
um But I used to love Cardi because I've started watching her on Love and Hip Hop and she was like clearly a fucking star even
18:55.61
Vance π
yeah
19:06.23
Nandi K
then Yeah.
19:09.25
Vance π
RuPaul's Drag Race, I will say I'm a contemporary fan. I caught on like season 12 or something.
19:13.15
Nandi K
Sure.
19:15.04
Vance π
um But no, that's what I mean by.
19:16.18
Nandi K
Oh. But you watched all the seasons.
19:18.97
Vance π
Yeah, I went back. I went back.
19:20.02
Nandi K
Oh, okay.
19:20.21
Vance π
So I caught up I got in late, but i so I went back. I'm now caught up. I think we've talked about it. I just like that show because I think it's centers joy. um
19:30.52
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
19:31.70
Vance π
I feel like a not feel like I know a lot of a lot of the people would not have the platform to be, you know, as as visible.
19:37.56
Nandi K
Yep. here
19:40.35
Vance π
I think also stories helps people relate to other people. So like just seeing people outside your experience, it's helpful for people that may not know or whatever. Right. Not that they're watching, but for the couple that do, it's good.
19:51.67
Vance π
Right. So we're tracking Ru's evil.
19:52.68
Nandi K
Yeah.
19:56.15
Vance π
But, you know, I think i think ah the show is a bigger force of good than not.
19:56.54
Nandi K
Sure. Hey.
20:01.66
Vance π
So I'm like, yeah, sure, we'll keep it.
20:05.14
Nandi K
Yeah, um I'm also going to give another nod to American Idol. I said American Idol was like the first reality TV show where I was like, oh, maybe I can do this.
20:10.90
Vance π
Yep.
20:17.02
Nandi K
And we started talking about it earlier, but we wanted to save it for this episode.
20:17.62
Vance π
Mm-hmm.
20:21.40
Vance π
Yes.
20:23.83
Nandi K
But I auditioned for American Idol.
20:26.68
Vance π
What season?
20:26.84
Nandi K
When I was a freshman in college, it was either, i think it was after my freshman year. so this is like So this is 2007, 2008. I think it was 2007.
20:37.21
Vance π
So, like, season...
20:38.53
Nandi K
So at mine I might not have even been in college yet. It was like the summer between college and high school, i was high school and college.
20:45.02
Vance π
So, like, season season six, maybe?
20:48.41
Nandi K
Girl, I don't know.
20:48.46
Vance π
Seven? Yeah. Okay, what happened? Did you...
20:51.55
Nandi K
2007. i went, I stood in line, we got there at four o'clock in the morning. We sit in line until noon. And then I went inside. And so like the whole thing is like you sing for a bunch of like producers first.
21:07.67
Nandi K
And then, like, while the time, you like, the whole time we you see, like, Simon, Randy, and, like, Paula, that's, like, round five. They have, like, a...
21:14.99
Vance π
yep Y'all left?
21:15.70
Nandi K
That's, like, round five. So, I sang for the producers twice, and then they said, go home. And I was, like, thank God, because I'm hungry as fuck, and I'm ready to go. This also happened when we me and this same friend, we went to America's Next Top Model auditions and we stood in line for like two hours and we were like, bitch, it's hot.
21:35.57
Nandi K
Do you want to go get something to eat? And we went to go get something eat and we left.
21:40.50
Vance π
It's for the best, to be honest, because they was throwing sandals at people and shit over there.
21:44.47
Nandi K
We left to go eat. Like, clearly we weren't cut out for that show.
21:48.34
Vance π
Right, right.
21:48.51
Nandi K
We were like, bitch, we're hungry. Let's go.
21:50.42
Vance π
They were like, you ain't going to starve.
21:50.91
Nandi K
like
21:52.50
Vance π
Anyway, we...
21:53.27
Nandi K
no
21:55.93
Vance π
America's Next Month. um Dang, i got honorable I got more honorable mentions.
22:01.05
Nandi K
Okay, what's your honorable mentions?
22:01.18
Vance π
The great cooking shows, my favorite genre is cooking competitions.
22:04.50
Nandi K
Ugh.
22:06.47
Vance π
So I will say the great soul food cook-off. Did you watch that? I know you did.
22:10.62
Nandi K
Yes, of course.
22:12.82
Vance π
Bitch, I cried on an episode about the elders when they brought in the grandmas to cook with the chefs and the grandmas are giving them feedback.
22:17.68
Nandi K
Mm-hmm. That was so good.
22:20.44
Vance π
That was so beautiful.
22:20.66
Nandi K
was great.
22:22.29
Vance π
Considering there's like a million reality shows about food and there's only one soul food one that's dedicated, it's so ghetto, but whatever. um And then the barbecue show on Netflix is also...
22:29.80
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
22:32.18
Nandi K
ah
22:32.66
Vance π
ah
22:33.34
Nandi K
Yes, it's so good.
22:34.30
Vance π
i love I love that show. That Thyron man, he was he tasted he tastes something. He was like, what did he say? That needs some milk powder. But it's like, nigga, how do you know that? And then the man put it, and he won.
22:44.73
Nandi K
aye
22:45.63
Vance π
I was like, how do you know that?
22:47.95
Nandi K
Screaming. He knows. Yeah, I think right now my currents are like, I love a straight train wreck. So love is blind is my one that I can't look away from.
22:58.67
Vance π
Yeah. Yeah, I'm watching.
22:59.96
Nandi K
I call it lesbian dating for straights um because they like do the like dating in 10 days and then get engaged.
23:03.03
Vance π
Uh, uh, that swinger propaganda. Yup.
23:07.64
Nandi K
And that's just a very lesbian concept to me.
23:09.30
Vance π
Lesbian. Right.
23:10.72
Nandi K
um and also the people are all so awful they're all so desperate right even the ones that seem cool you're not cool you said you would rather you would be willing to marry a stranger who you've never seen before you're not cool there's something wrong with you there is something deeply wrong with you and uh
23:10.84
Vance π
Right. Uhauls.
23:28.60
Vance π
You're not okay.
23:35.70
Nandi K
and i also think love is blind is a representation of like the worst parts about our culture, which is like really important to keep your eye on.
23:45.43
Vance π
Yeah. ah
23:46.10
Nandi K
I have to see what straight people are doing because I can't be letting y'all run fucking unsupervised.
23:48.76
Vance π
Yeah. No, it's true. Um, I can't watch these types of shows without thinking they're critiques. I'm like, this is a critique of the thing, right? Like, and if it's not, it feels like it.
23:58.78
Nandi K
Gotta be.
24:00.71
Vance π
Cause like, what?
24:03.00
Nandi K
chyle
24:03.00
Vance π
Like even them hitting the milestones, in quick succession. I'm like, this feels like a critique of like how all this shit is planned out and like how kind of don't work. If it's not natural, almost, uh,
24:13.69
Nandi K
Mind you, married at first sight, you get married immediately.
24:17.30
Vance π
Crazy. And then they be talking about consummating the marriage like they in Gilead and shit. I'm like, yeah this is like announcing to the group.
24:24.34
Nandi K
like, we just met yesterday.
24:26.17
Vance π
Right.
24:26.26
Nandi K
I'm not gonna fuck you.
24:28.40
Vance π
Announcing to the group that we consummated a marriage with that language is so dystopian to me. But I think that's why i'll watch it because I'm like, this is like handmaid. Not handmaid tale, but you know what I'm saying?
24:39.58
Vance π
It just feel like some dystopian shit. It's creepy, but I can't look away.
24:42.52
Nandi K
I mean, it is.
24:44.09
Vance π
I have looked away, but I can't.
24:45.02
Nandi K
Indeed. Well, I think we did it.
24:50.58
Vance π
Yeah, like obviously we could go on forever about reality.
24:54.87
Nandi K
Yeah, we could. I had thought about something. It was about another like, oh, you know what I was thinking about? Couple To Throuple. Did you watch that?
25:03.51
Vance π
No.
25:04.12
Nandi K
It was also awful.
25:04.57
Vance π
Where is it at?
25:05.40
Nandi K
it was also It's on Peacock, so you can watch it.
25:07.86
Vance π
Okay, I'll check it out.
25:08.52
Nandi K
But it's like couples who were like interested in like opening up their relationship and finding a third. Mind you, they've never even dated non-monogamously separately before, which I think is like the best part about the show.
25:15.50
Vance π
Uh-huh.
25:21.03
Vance π
That's always how they do it.
25:23.08
Nandi K
It's a trap made to fail. and
25:25.72
Vance π
Yeah. Entrapment.
25:27.22
Nandi K
like get A throuple? How y'all even gonna decide on a single person to like it's not gonna work? that's not That doesn't even work in an outside world. like
25:37.34
Vance π
have Have you seen family or fiance?
25:40.98
Nandi K
I've seen clips of it because someone I know was on there but I didn't watch the episode.
25:44.63
Vance π
ah Tell me... Tell me their name. That's the most ghetto shit I've ever seen. Like, when I watch it, I have to be like, peel myself away and be like, you cannot do this. This is beneath you. But tell me their name.
25:58.01
Nandi K
I will another time.
25:58.71
Vance π
Yeah, because the whole thing is on HBO.
25:59.90
Nandi K
and
26:00.91
Vance π
So I'm like, I will i will be watching that.
26:04.09
Nandi K
Oh, yeah. I should find the episode because she had to do a whole disclaimer. Like, oh we did this way back. did it ah It's like, yeah, you got to do a disclaimer because we all thought y'all was happy.
26:16.11
Nandi K
Ha
26:17.96
Vance π
I'll watch it tonight.
26:18.71
Nandi K
Well, with that, today's episode is sponsored by The Gay Agenda. We are here.
26:26.69
Vance π
Always.
26:28.19
Nandi K
Denounce your gender now.
26:31.58
Vance π
A big thanks to our producer and audio Adonis, Aaron Rand Freeman. I've been Vance Gowe. You can find me on Instagram and our threads at SirLanceathawt.
26:43.03
Nandi K
And I'm Nandi Kay. You can find me on Instagram threads in blue sky at Nandi Kayyy. See y'all.
26:52.15
Vance π
See yaβll
Right Quick is a podcast for They Agenda Productions LLC. Created by Nandi K & Co-hosted by Vance Gowe. Aaron Rand Freeman is our mouthy producer. Theme music by Luke Santy. Art by Sonia Hunnicutt. If you like what youβre hearing subscribe, rate, and review and follow us on Patreon at They Agenda Productions.
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