00:00.031 --> 00:07.880
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody JJ Cooper Carlos Claus another the baseball america draft podcast and this was a big one because this week We have a big update.

00:07.900 --> 00:11.884
[SPEAKER_02]: We had a staff draft on Monday But also more importantly.

00:11.904 --> 00:15.388
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say if you had ever to baseball america.com right now We have an update.

00:15.408 --> 00:23.237
[SPEAKER_02]: We have 300 prospects now on the draft Pop 300 we'll get to 500 but we're at the 300 right now

00:23.420 --> 00:24.863
[SPEAKER_02]: and reports on those.

00:25.104 --> 00:28.471
[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of movement within it's not just that we add a hundred players.

00:28.572 --> 00:32.340
[SPEAKER_02]: We also are continually updating the rankings as we do that.

00:32.921 --> 00:34.585
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what we want to talk about today.

00:34.725 --> 00:37.011
[SPEAKER_02]: So to dive straight in, great to see you Carlos.

00:37.051 --> 00:37.632
[SPEAKER_02]: But

00:38.118 --> 00:42.904
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, before we talk about individual players, how has the draft class as a whole?

00:42.964 --> 00:44.226
[SPEAKER_02]: How has it viewed differently?

00:44.306 --> 00:52.357
[SPEAKER_02]: Are there areas of it that are viewed a little differently than it was coming into the season or how has it kind of been tweaked a little bit?

00:52.417 --> 00:52.877
[SPEAKER_02]: Here we are.

00:52.917 --> 01:04.092
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, oh, now a decent bit of the way confidence play has started in college, high schools are on a under way, almost let's drop in the up north west, Midwest or whatever, but how has it changed?

01:04.477 --> 01:16.400
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we're about seven weeks into the colleges and now we're seven weeks seven is going to start basically this weekend as you're listening to this podcast and I do think that generally the class is still viewed as quite strong.

01:16.640 --> 01:26.940
[SPEAKER_01]: I try and ask when I'm getting feedback for these lists we spent a lot of time sending around like our preliminary list talking with scouts obviously trying to see like who we're high on, who are light on, who we need to move up and

01:26.920 --> 01:31.507
[SPEAKER_01]: I always try and ask people when I get into detailed conversations like, how are you doing the class at this point?

01:31.547 --> 01:36.035
[SPEAKER_01]: I try to ask that consistently throughout the spring because like you just noted, things change.

01:36.135 --> 01:37.136
[SPEAKER_01]: We're moving players around.

01:37.177 --> 01:40.402
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not just tacking on 100 extra players to expand the list.

01:40.422 --> 01:44.729
[SPEAKER_01]: We're trying to fold in all of the new information that we're seeing and I've talked with you about this.

01:44.749 --> 01:48.675
[SPEAKER_01]: JJ, I'm not sure if we mentioned it on the podcast, but I do feel like this first

01:48.655 --> 02:02.732
[SPEAKER_01]: in season update of any draft ranking is always the most chaotic in terms of just the amount of movement we have because it is the first chance we get to reflect some of the actual game information that we're seeing from players.

02:03.233 --> 02:12.604
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'd say generally the class was regarded as incredibly strong entering the year that's largely the feedback that I've gotten

02:12.787 --> 02:38.541
[SPEAKER_01]: Today, as we kind of update this, if I'm kind of getting into the weeds a little bit more, I wonder if teams are a little bit more excited about the college hitting, maybe a little bit more excited about the college pitching depth, I know the college pitching at the top was one of the weaker demographics in our preseason list, but it does feel like year after year there are college arms who jump up the board.

02:38.521 --> 02:39.744
[SPEAKER_01]: That is the case this year.

02:39.804 --> 02:42.750
[SPEAKER_01]: There are a number of college pitchers who are trending upward.

02:43.071 --> 02:50.427
[SPEAKER_01]: And I wonder if the high school class as a whole, it's just a little bit lesser regarded today.

02:50.467 --> 02:55.939
[SPEAKER_01]: It does feel like some of the most tools the high school hitters in the class are just not

02:55.919 --> 02:59.645
[SPEAKER_01]: making the strides you want to see from them offensively this spring.

02:59.705 --> 03:05.895
[SPEAKER_01]: We've had a few high school pictures who we view as potential first round talents who just come out a little bit lighter.

03:05.955 --> 03:19.497
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're also in this weird kind of in between stage where some of the very most prominent high school arms in the country have only made one or a handful of starts as we're making this update and I always talked to you about this.

03:19.577 --> 03:19.918
[SPEAKER_01]: It's

03:20.962 --> 03:24.827
[SPEAKER_01]: trying to balance over correcting versus under correcting in these moves.

03:25.187 --> 03:26.048
[SPEAKER_01]: That's always tricky.

03:27.009 --> 03:30.413
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think in general, you can see high school pitchers come out a little bit later.

03:30.453 --> 03:34.558
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to give them some time to ramp up and get rolling.

03:34.638 --> 03:44.590
[SPEAKER_01]: But I also think it's true that generally college players tend to move up the draft board throughout the spring and the high school players who are really well thought of and highly regarded.

03:45.211 --> 03:51.423
[SPEAKER_01]: the previous summer, those profiles are more commonly sliding and maybe especially high school pitchers.

03:52.165 --> 03:55.391
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think it's generally still a really strong class, very deep class.

03:55.472 --> 03:59.860
[SPEAKER_01]: The depth of the class continues to be something that stands out to me, but I like quite a bit.

03:59.901 --> 04:03.929
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we still have Rock Jelowski looking like the prospect we expect him to be.

04:03.969 --> 04:07.135
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe for White Talks fans, there's some more important thing right now.

04:07.587 --> 04:08.809
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say kind of what you said.

04:08.849 --> 04:23.074
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that that trend is true most years and the part of the reason for that is, is that what you just said, like, there's so much more that college players can do to move up the board in the spring of their draft you're a feel like, then a high school player can, right?

04:23.134 --> 04:26.760
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if you're a high school hitter and you have a great spring,

04:26.977 --> 04:37.881
[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of expected and it's kind of your kind of baked in a little bit now the flip sides not true though right a high school hitter who has a great summer showcase season but then looks terrible in spring.

04:37.945 --> 04:48.619
[SPEAKER_02]: what you just talked about or not, you know, not as good as expected, Ethan, can move down because all the high school hitters can really do and the pitchers to some extent, it's like you're expected to dominate.

04:48.959 --> 05:00.814
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you don't, if the stuff is not as good, if the swing decisions don't look as good, if you're not as mobile, if your defense is not as good, all those things can work against you where teams I think are very,

05:01.553 --> 05:09.908
[SPEAKER_02]: hesitant now to have the guy, the high school player who was not that well regarded coming out of the previous summer and then rockets up the board.

05:09.968 --> 05:15.839
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the kind of demographic they've seen before and gone, you've overreacted and passed on that.

05:15.879 --> 05:21.850
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like beating up on lesser competition in the spring is not a reason to go overboard on a player.

05:21.910 --> 05:24.996
[SPEAKER_02]: So you take that and then you compare that to the college side where

05:25.904 --> 05:43.660
[SPEAKER_02]: If you take a guy who you had concerns about, you know, this or that and then he shows that he's improved that and he's doing it against top quality college competition, okay, we check that off that scratch stuff we're not as concerned about that or this picture now is we liked him last year, but the stuff's better those things.

05:43.640 --> 06:05.023
[SPEAKER_02]: There's just much more I feel like ways for a college player to move up or down, where it's the high school players kind of start, and then you're hoping to stay there, or you can move down, but it's really hard to see what a high school player is going to do midseason or the high school season to really leap up the board.

06:05.003 --> 06:12.295
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say like we're not going to, you know, the full list over there in the rankings and the risers and followers, all the explanations are over at baseball American.

06:12.315 --> 06:19.427
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't, we're not going to get into the weeds on all the movement on this, but what I would say would be a pretty boring podcast we did that.

06:20.148 --> 06:22.112
[SPEAKER_02]: But what I would say with this is is that.

06:23.735 --> 06:28.783
[SPEAKER_02]: We said there's a challenge to this, which is you're not trying to overreact, but at the same time,

06:29.995 --> 06:34.622
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not like, oh, we looked at some stats and we said, move this guy down.

06:35.182 --> 06:49.343
[SPEAKER_02]: There is like the amount of feedback we got from people inside the industry, scouts from us, the officials, and it was all that, who are working on this right now, to shape to how we move this is significant.

06:49.543 --> 06:56.593
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I would say the other thing about this update to 300 now that we're into the college season is,

06:57.569 --> 07:10.806
[SPEAKER_02]: You are doing, you definitely are seeing some trends here, I would say, doesn't mean that guys who moved down couldn't move back up or whatever, but when you see this, and you go, I can't believe they moved this guy down 10 spots or up 10 spots.

07:11.327 --> 07:14.451
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not, oh, he hit a couple of homers one week, so he ramped him up.

07:14.571 --> 07:21.580
[SPEAKER_02]: That is something where we are consistently getting feedback on a player and says, move him up or move him down.

07:22.341 --> 07:26.226
[SPEAKER_02]: Along those lines, Carlos, looking at this,

07:26.375 --> 07:38.757
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's a player or player to you who jumps out that you're like, okay, this player, the evaluation them has changed as far as what teams see now in a positive way.

07:38.777 --> 07:44.687
[SPEAKER_02]: Like someone who's moving up the board because the feedback we get is this player's better than we thought we was coming in and see.

07:44.802 --> 08:00.010
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I hesitate to bring up this name because I do feel like we spend a lot of time talking about him in recent weeks, but I think anyone other than Georgia Tech's Vaughn Lacky would be maybe bearing the lead a bit, because I think in terms of first-round risers, Vaughn Lacky maybe has the most helium.

08:00.344 --> 08:23.652
[SPEAKER_01]: in the industry of any player right now I wrote a more in-depth scouting one at one piece on Von Lackey earlier this week so if you want to check that out to see like the reasons why he's jumping up the board I would encourage you to check out that piece at baseball american.com but Von Lackey right now feels like a pretty safe top five top ten sort of prospect in the class after ruchelowski

08:23.632 --> 08:27.078
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he's one of the favorites to be the first college hitting prospect off the board.

08:27.118 --> 08:30.704
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he's just one of the favorites to be the next player off the board period.

08:30.864 --> 08:37.175
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, just reiterating what we said and we don't have to spend a ton of time on this because I know we've talked about it a little bit.

08:37.235 --> 08:38.738
[SPEAKER_01]: But Von Lackey entered the year.

08:38.718 --> 08:45.610
[SPEAKER_01]: as an excellent defensive catcher with just unusual athleticism for the profile in context skills to build on.

08:45.650 --> 08:50.378
[SPEAKER_01]: There were some traits that he showed his sophomore season where you could kind of see the power ticking up.

08:50.458 --> 08:52.381
[SPEAKER_01]: He started hitting the ball a little bit harder.

08:52.442 --> 08:57.711
[SPEAKER_01]: His ground ball rate decreased and he's just continued to do that offensively.

08:57.771 --> 09:00.175
[SPEAKER_01]: He's having a career best offensive season.

09:00.235 --> 09:02.599
[SPEAKER_01]: He's elevating the ball at a significant degree.

09:02.579 --> 09:26.325
[SPEAKER_01]: he's seeing the ball harder quite a bit on average and he's done all of that without sacrificing contact while still looking like an exceptional defender at catcher JJ I had a blast like watching a lot of Von Lackey video I know you love to grind catcher video as well so you're going to enjoy that when you get some time because I think the way he moves behind the plate his defensive tools behind the plate

09:26.305 --> 09:28.250
[SPEAKER_01]: remain incredibly captivating.

09:28.370 --> 09:33.823
[SPEAKER_01]: And now you're looking at a player who doesn't really have any glaring holes in his profile.

09:33.903 --> 09:40.078
[SPEAKER_01]: And because of that, you're looking at a premium position, power, conference, performer.

09:40.666 --> 09:43.931
[SPEAKER_01]: That profile is not going to fall too far on draft day.

09:44.612 --> 09:53.425
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mentioned this in the piece, but I feel like there were probably teams in the teens, maybe this like 13 to 20 range, maybe even a little bit later.

09:53.465 --> 10:01.597
[SPEAKER_01]: In the pecking order who were circling fun lacking, they're saying, hey, this is a player that we're really going to scout hard for our first round pick.

10:01.617 --> 10:09.188
[SPEAKER_01]: And now they're probably thinking, we probably need to move down the list, cause I don't know if we're going to have a chance to get fun lacking.

10:09.168 --> 10:14.953
[SPEAKER_01]: The most interesting, maybe the most notable riser among the top overall players in the class.

10:16.134 --> 10:25.603
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to highlight another one real quick that didn't move as much, but I do think like when you get as close as you get as high as ace Reese was coming into the year.

10:25.843 --> 10:38.955
[SPEAKER_02]: There's only so much movement you can do, but he did take another step up this and I feel like Carlos that with ace Reese, there are absolutely questions about his defense where his position is

10:38.935 --> 10:54.480
[SPEAKER_02]: It just kind of goes back to the adage that if it's scouts, evaluators are very comfortable with your hit tool for a college hitter and they think that you're one of the best hitters in the class, you're probably not going to have to wait very long to hear your name called on draft day, right?

10:55.085 --> 10:56.547
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's absolutely the case.

10:56.567 --> 11:00.534
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I would fold in Chris a copian's name here with Texas A&M.

11:00.574 --> 11:03.879
[SPEAKER_01]: We have them side by side in this recent update.

11:03.899 --> 11:08.306
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're both players who were kind of in the top half of the first round range entering the year.

11:08.386 --> 11:09.648
[SPEAKER_01]: We had them at 11 and 12.

11:10.028 --> 11:14.916
[SPEAKER_01]: We now have them at six and seven to give you some insight into the actual list.

11:14.896 --> 11:19.623
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think that both these players have cases as best hit power combos in the class.

11:19.683 --> 11:25.172
[SPEAKER_01]: A copian is right handed hitter who maybe has more of a chance to play a useful defensive position.

11:25.372 --> 11:32.704
[SPEAKER_01]: Ace Reese has the benefit of being left handed, but there also may be more critical thoughts on his defensive ability playing third base now.

11:33.184 --> 11:35.969
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of scouts think he's just destined to move over to first base.

11:35.989 --> 11:43.300
[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the questions we had on a recent draft chat about Ace

11:43.617 --> 11:49.003
[SPEAKER_01]: If you does not a good defensive third baseman likely to play first, how is that player?

11:49.118 --> 11:55.786
[SPEAKER_01]: being viewed as someone who'd go off in the first 10 picks and I basically said, hey, look at Nick Kurtz, like Ace Reese is not Nick Kurtz.

11:55.806 --> 12:08.440
[SPEAKER_01]: They're different hitters, but if you believe that Ace Reese's a player who has middle of the lineup offensive potential, as you said, hitting in hitting for power is the most important thing to do on the baseball field.

12:08.520 --> 12:15.548
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're very confident that Ace Reese or Chris Ecopian have just one of the better hit power combinations in the class,

12:15.528 --> 12:25.192
[SPEAKER_01]: you're going to live with maybe sliding these players down the defensive spectrum when you're comparing them to other players that maybe have some more hit-toe concerns and maybe don't have the same sort of impact.

12:25.212 --> 12:31.528
[SPEAKER_01]: So I do think these are two hitters who regardless of like your thoughts on no hookup you might not be a short stop.

12:31.508 --> 12:38.919
[SPEAKER_01]: A series might have to move across the infield like just the impact they bring offensively has been impressive enough to warrant up era moves.

12:39.120 --> 12:43.226
[SPEAKER_01]: They feel like both sort of safe-ish top 10 picks.

12:43.266 --> 12:53.702
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really want to say safe at this stage because we still have a long ways to go and it's talented class, but they both performed on a Chrissy Copian as dealt with some some injuries, hasn't been on the field 100% of the time, but when he has been on the field,

12:53.682 --> 13:04.444
[SPEAKER_01]: he's kind of looked like the same hitter that he's always been and we've got positive up air feedback on both those players so if you're looking for for hitpower combos those two are pretty good place to start.

13:05.547 --> 13:12.501
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay we can't just be all positive about it because I'll see players move up that means other players move down and we're gonna get into that right after this quick break.

13:13.527 --> 13:18.016
[SPEAKER_00]: AJ, this episode is brought to you by our friends at Fox One.

13:18.257 --> 13:20.822
[SPEAKER_00]: Fox One is where you can watch AJ Piersinski.

13:20.882 --> 13:27.615
[SPEAKER_00]: And I get this email every week now, AJ, that says, what to watch this week on Fox One, that you're the weekly watchlist.

13:27.656 --> 13:34.810
[SPEAKER_00]: And now that it's going to be full of Saturday MLB games with a little bit of you, a little bit of Ken Rosenthal and to your friends.

13:35.768 --> 13:37.894
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely, that starts next Saturday's guy.

13:37.914 --> 13:40.100
[SPEAKER_04]: You can watch all the games on the Fox One app.

13:40.541 --> 13:42.246
[SPEAKER_04]: Can watch college basketball.

13:42.266 --> 13:43.550
[SPEAKER_04]: You can watch college football.

13:43.590 --> 13:47.681
[SPEAKER_04]: You can watch the have indie car, the have NASCAR, and they have great shows.

13:47.762 --> 13:49.727
[SPEAKER_04]: Fox One is the app that really does have it all.

13:50.433 --> 13:52.897
[SPEAKER_00]: Start your seven day free trial today.

13:53.037 --> 13:54.359
[SPEAKER_00]: Offers are subject to change.

13:54.439 --> 13:57.283
[SPEAKER_00]: Go to Fox One for complete terms and conditions.

13:57.764 --> 13:59.546
[SPEAKER_00]: Fox One, streaming now.

13:59.707 --> 14:01.930
[SPEAKER_00]: AJ, baseball season is finally here.

14:01.970 --> 14:10.623
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's nothing like listening to the sweet sounds of the game while you're at home and joining some home cooking, whipping up a beautiful meal with Hello Fresh.

14:10.643 --> 14:13.707
[SPEAKER_00]: And there are many, many, many recipes to choose from.

14:14.665 --> 14:21.939
[SPEAKER_04]: I love those big portions got over a hundred mouthwatering recipes each week, including cuisines from around the world like some of my faves.

14:22.460 --> 14:29.333
[SPEAKER_04]: Curry chicken and roasted sweet potato jumble, smokey chipotle beef burrito bowls, and sweet Thai chili salmon.

14:30.123 --> 14:37.614
[SPEAKER_00]: There's now three times the seafood for no upchards and press guests or treat yourself with new grass fed steak rib eyes.

14:38.195 --> 14:49.812
[SPEAKER_00]: So go to HelloFresh.com slash FT10FM to get 10 free meals plus a free z-willing knife, $144.99 value on your third box.

14:50.253 --> 14:56.482
[SPEAKER_00]: Offer valid while supplies last, free meals applied as discount on first box, new subscribers only varies by plan.

14:56.702 --> 14:59.927
[SPEAKER_00]: Because when dinner tastes this good,

15:01.932 --> 15:04.374
[SPEAKER_02]: So Carlos, some players also moved down.

15:05.415 --> 15:07.897
[SPEAKER_02]: Who is someone who jumps out to you that the feedback we got?

15:08.038 --> 15:14.303
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, okay, yeah, we're gonna have to bump this guy down several spots on the B3100.

15:14.704 --> 15:19.588
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess do you want to stick towards maybe more top of the class of players and focus on the top of the track?

15:19.608 --> 15:22.171
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's do one of the top of let's do one kind of a little further on.

15:22.411 --> 15:30.218
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I got kind of a pair of duo so we can even get a few more names in here because I think they're kind of moving down in concert.

15:30.468 --> 15:33.952
[SPEAKER_01]: Derek Creole, Alfredo LSU, Eric Becker, Virginia shortstop.

15:33.972 --> 15:36.294
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, this is maybe why it's like tricky timing.

15:36.314 --> 15:40.399
[SPEAKER_01]: Because Eric Becker actually had a really nice weekend prior to us recording this podcast.

15:40.419 --> 15:47.206
[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like both Creole and Eric Becker are in this sort of, I don't know if I'd call it a tweener camp.

15:47.326 --> 15:55.635
[SPEAKER_01]: But they are, their profiles are not as explosive or dynamic or exciting tool sets as a lot of their peers who are performing.

15:55.655 --> 15:58.298
[SPEAKER_01]: And then both Creole and Becker Creole

15:58.750 --> 16:05.000
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, just haven't performed as maybe Scouts would want them to give in some of their limitations.

16:05.721 --> 16:11.751
[SPEAKER_01]: And because of that, we're moving them from top half of the first round to second half of the first round.

16:11.811 --> 16:13.894
[SPEAKER_01]: They're both in the 20s now.

16:14.455 --> 16:21.586
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's tricky for me because I think I personally like Cariel more than where most of the industry seems to be on him right now.

16:21.667 --> 16:23.630
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll be curious how that one goes.

16:23.670 --> 16:25.753
[SPEAKER_01]: But those who are sliding a little bit.

16:26.324 --> 16:28.447
[SPEAKER_01]: don't have exceptional tools sets.

16:28.507 --> 16:34.976
[SPEAKER_01]: There's just more pressure on you to go out and perform and to make teams feel really confident that the hit tools are as advertised.

16:35.016 --> 16:40.844
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're both to have up the middle profiles, which is encouraging, but neither of them are elite sort of defenders.

16:40.884 --> 16:43.407
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not eight in a row, sort of shortsat defenders.

16:43.508 --> 16:45.971
[SPEAKER_01]: The talented high school shorts stop in Yorth.

16:45.991 --> 16:49.095
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not rocked, laughsky, kind of defenders at the position.

16:49.115 --> 16:54.002
[SPEAKER_01]: And so because of that, I think you're just getting some downward pressure on the profiles

16:54.235 --> 16:59.306
[SPEAKER_01]: maybe teams picking in the 20s are thinking that these two players are a lot more likely to be available for them.

16:59.466 --> 17:00.649
[SPEAKER_01]: So those are two at the top.

17:01.350 --> 17:02.633
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't go before we get on.

17:03.014 --> 17:09.467
[SPEAKER_02]: The thing with both of them I feel like is that like you said it's like it's not even that they're having terrible seasons or anything like that.

17:09.928 --> 17:10.810
[SPEAKER_02]: But

17:10.790 --> 17:19.020
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that I love the piece that you do before the season where you lay out here's what teams are looking what to see from these guys in their draft year.

17:19.801 --> 17:26.309
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like Macquarielle and Becker, what we're not seeing is the steps forward in the things that were the concerns coming in, right?

17:26.409 --> 17:35.760
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that you're seeing, they may be the similar player to what they were, but there was the hope that's like, okay, we're going to see another step forward and maybe what's in that?

17:35.780 --> 17:38.063
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that a decent way to put it?

17:38.043 --> 17:39.225
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that feels fair.

17:39.686 --> 17:44.574
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure like it would be great if both these players could add on a ton of power.

17:44.714 --> 18:01.401
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you probably need to be a little bit measured in like what your expectations are for how much power these players are adding because they just have the sort of physical frames that don't really pretend much more power coming and so you're you're probably hoping that they look a little bit stronger, show a little bit more impact, continue to perform at a high level.

18:01.381 --> 18:05.605
[SPEAKER_01]: All the little margins here and their profiles look really good as what you're hoping for.

18:05.645 --> 18:20.059
[SPEAKER_01]: And I do think with for both Curial and for Becker that they are still the sort of profiles where it only takes one team who is just very heavily weighing track record or performance at both Becker and Curial have extensive track records of performance.

18:20.099 --> 18:26.205
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I could still see a team that values that track record and values safety taking them in a pretty good spot.

18:27.045 --> 18:27.726
[SPEAKER_01]: But

18:27.706 --> 18:32.971
[SPEAKER_01]: Certainly in contrast to some other players in the first round, they haven't put together the performances.

18:33.011 --> 18:41.398
[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't shown these dramatic shifts in their overall profile like a Von Lackey to either maintain their spots or jump.

18:41.418 --> 18:44.541
[SPEAKER_01]: It does feel like they're slipping a little bit.

18:44.561 --> 18:51.507
[SPEAKER_01]: We still have them both as first round talents as of now, which is not the case or maybe two of the players I can mention next.

18:51.628 --> 18:57.713
[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say, so then you're said that there's a couple of guys going further down who are not in the first round consideration

18:57.693 --> 19:11.510
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would say Kevin Roberts Jr., high school shortstop, slash outfielder, I think more outfield moving forward than shortstop at Mississippi and then Brady Harris, high school outfielder out of Florida.

19:12.171 --> 19:18.098
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like we've kind of moved these players down in concert with each other for the better part of.

19:18.078 --> 19:34.324
[SPEAKER_01]: Nearly a year now, maybe eight, nine months, but both players were super high profile top of the class underclassmen with really dynamic tool sets, Kevin Robber's junior also added an usual youth to that demographic.

19:34.344 --> 19:36.888
[SPEAKER_01]: He's still going to be 17 on draft day.

19:37.069 --> 19:44.220
[SPEAKER_01]: Both of them had down summers and so we slid them a little bit last summer and fall towards more middle or back of the

19:44.200 --> 19:47.587
[SPEAKER_01]: the same conversations with guys like Brady Emerson but Jacob Lombard.

19:47.627 --> 19:51.856
[SPEAKER_01]: They were like neck and neck with those players and it does feel like this spring.

19:51.896 --> 20:01.517
[SPEAKER_01]: Neither of them has just made the step forward or maybe even getting more negative feedback and I don't want to bury these guys too much because I think we see this frequently.

20:01.497 --> 20:05.903
[SPEAKER_01]: The draft season, we saw this happen with Dylan Cruz, his draft, your Derrick Curiel.

20:06.283 --> 20:11.069
[SPEAKER_01]: His draft, you're sometimes the guys with targets on their back who are under a microscope, just struggling.

20:11.089 --> 20:14.614
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't perform, but we still haven't heard the sort of confidence.

20:14.714 --> 20:29.192
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like you need to hear with the guy like Brady Harris, offensively the spring, like he isn't a good, a good area for competition for high school players relative to the normer to the average and then Kevin Roberts

20:29.510 --> 20:36.171
[SPEAKER_01]: Look for him, it sounds like he's playing more outfit moving forward, I'd expect that to be a more natural position for him, but these are two players.

20:36.311 --> 20:40.785
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I said it just takes one with the Derek Karel and the Eric Becker conversation, but

20:42.200 --> 21:00.985
[SPEAKER_01]: While most teams in the industry are probably more skeptical on these profiles and maybe want to see them go to Florida where they're both committed to prove their hitting chops, they also have just really loud physical tool sets and upside and if the team wants to check a shot like we saw with Quentin young a year ago, I feel like both these players are.

21:00.965 --> 21:09.795
[SPEAKER_01]: recently similar to that profile, Quentin Young as a guy who has really loud physical tools, it's a ton of power upside and it's just a lot of questions about the hit tool.

21:10.095 --> 21:24.711
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a team that is just going to tolerate more hit risk, maybe with your second pick, I can still see them drafted in a pretty decent spot, but they are players who are moving down the board a little bit and I think are probably players who have a very wide range of opinions throughout the industry right now.

21:25.957 --> 21:30.385
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's the trickiest part that we always run into every time we do a rankings update.

21:30.405 --> 21:33.069
[SPEAKER_02]: And I apologize, Paulins here, I've got a little bit of allergies.

21:33.089 --> 21:35.994
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm dreading it in North Carolina and notes can be worse than Virginia.

21:36.495 --> 21:40.001
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, it's very yellow here right now, yellow in the air.

21:40.882 --> 21:45.450
[SPEAKER_02]: But the toughest ones that we run into is

21:45.532 --> 21:57.724
[SPEAKER_02]: The guys, okay, it's easy, again, none of this is easy, but when you get feedback on a Vaughn Lacky and like we have like 10 different piece of feedback that I'll say, move him up, you're too low on him.

21:57.764 --> 21:59.326
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's what I like about him all that.

21:59.606 --> 22:00.487
[SPEAKER_02]: That's easy, right?

22:01.588 --> 22:15.302
[SPEAKER_02]: And to some extent, if you're getting multiple piece of feedback say you need to move this guy down further, I feel like he's more in this range than the range you have of now because we kind of put together a prelim ranking than we get the feedback and then we adjust.

22:15.822 --> 22:22.611
[SPEAKER_02]: The toughest ones are the ones where it's like, you get some feedback that says you're too high, you get something back that you say that you're too low.

22:23.772 --> 22:25.495
[SPEAKER_02]: They're the split camp guys, right?

22:25.515 --> 22:28.038
[SPEAKER_02]: They're the guys who some teams are in on, some teams are not.

22:28.779 --> 22:37.851
[SPEAKER_02]: Or I would say it's also the ones who I'd say, whether it's profile or there's just some aspect of the player that makes them a tricky evaluation.

22:38.512 --> 22:45.441
[SPEAKER_02]: As you were doing kind of involved in this update, who someone or a couple of players who jump out that way,

22:46.163 --> 22:59.280
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, this player's here, but man, the range bars on this player of where they could go are how teams have them is larger than structural outskis range bars starts at one and goes to basically one.

23:00.041 --> 23:12.357
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe two, you know, but there are players who may be at 55 on our list, but the range of what teams perceive ranks from 25 to 75, which is a much bigger range, obviously.

23:12.404 --> 23:18.872
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and as you push further than the board that ranges is going to naturally grow for every player pretty dramatically.

23:18.932 --> 23:28.464
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's always maybe understated the the level of divergence teams have in their valuation players as you get beyond like the top 50 players in the class.

23:28.804 --> 23:39.137
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll start with one player who we moved up quite a bit this year and is one of the most significant risers who is not jerk grindling or who is a master riser only because he was not eligible.

23:39.370 --> 23:40.652
[SPEAKER_01]: previously and he is now.

23:40.692 --> 23:45.478
[SPEAKER_01]: But actually, I think, Jared Grindlinger maybe fits into this conversation as well.

23:45.538 --> 23:48.743
[SPEAKER_01]: But Mason Edwards is the first player that I wanted to come to.

23:48.823 --> 23:56.633
[SPEAKER_01]: We jumped him all the way from like fourth round range on our preseason list to compound range, like comp first round, 38 overall.

23:57.534 --> 24:00.298
[SPEAKER_01]: And it feels like kind of a

24:00.278 --> 24:27.737
[SPEAKER_01]: We're kind of threading the needle between the most optimistic evaluators on Mason Edwards and maybe the evaluators who are, I wouldn't say pessimistic but more cautious in how high we're rising in because Mason Edwards has done in terms of performance everything you want to see from a picture to move up the board and he has moved dramatically up our board but I think there is thought within the industry from the most optimistic that like Mason Edwards is a first round talent right now.

24:27.717 --> 24:29.920
[SPEAKER_01]: He's left in a picture, his performance is excellent.

24:29.940 --> 24:30.861
[SPEAKER_01]: He's dominated basically.

24:30.881 --> 24:33.044
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone, he's played against.

24:33.104 --> 24:38.091
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the people who are more pessimistic, kind of look at his track record and say, this is the first time he's ever really posted.

24:38.111 --> 24:44.119
[SPEAKER_01]: If you look at his actual stuff, it's maybe not as electric as the performance indicates.

24:44.600 --> 24:50.788
[SPEAKER_01]: And there are some people who criticize maybe the schedule has been a little bit later, then you'd like to see,

24:51.511 --> 25:10.904
[SPEAKER_01]: But I do get some like shades of Luke Holman here with Mason Edwards in the sense that like, his performance feels like he's ranked low and maybe his stuff feels like he's ranked a little bit high and so where you take him, maybe depends on your thoughts on how much more you can coax out of him in Pro Ball.

25:11.766 --> 25:15.392
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've seen this with a few pictures in spring training, but these sort of,

25:15.372 --> 25:20.444
[SPEAKER_01]: pitcherish and I don't think Mason Edwards is like a pitchability left hand I wouldn't want to put that tag on him.

25:21.086 --> 25:29.466
[SPEAKER_01]: But we have seen some pitchers who who may be fit that designation in the draft who are showing dramatically improved stuff to spring and you come.

25:29.767 --> 25:31.870
[SPEAKER_02]: That's an Anthony I am sitting come to mind.

25:31.890 --> 25:33.913
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he's actually another great example.

25:34.073 --> 25:37.999
[SPEAKER_01]: I am supposed to consistently and everyone kind of came back at the end of the day.

25:38.019 --> 25:45.010
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, yeah, the performance is great, but the stuff is really just not quite as dynamic as we'd like it to be for a player that we're taking in the first round.

25:45.450 --> 25:46.812
[SPEAKER_01]: The fast ball is not as electric.

25:46.832 --> 25:48.935
[SPEAKER_01]: The second area is maybe we wish we were a little bit sharper.

25:49.456 --> 25:57.428
[SPEAKER_01]: And I do think with Mason Edwards, the breaking ball sharpness has been something that's come up when I'm like drilling down and saying, okay, like we're hearing that

25:58.049 --> 26:07.003
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you don't think the service quite as electric is some players who've shot up higher in this range like what's the question mark and I have gotten like, hey, we'd like to see a little bit more from the breaking ball.

26:07.023 --> 26:19.202
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe that's either an area he can address or he can add more velocity moving forward or I do think if Mason error is just continues to post week after week after week there is just going to be some sense of like, hey, he keeps doing it and you get to reward that.

26:19.983 --> 26:24.310
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's a tricky one and that's in check on that April third.

26:24.290 --> 26:32.297
[SPEAKER_02]: April 3rd is circled in ink on evaluators calendars because that will be USC versus UCLA.

26:32.818 --> 26:50.394
[SPEAKER_02]: When you talk about, when you look at Southern Cal schedule going forward, it is completely, we heard this from, in some of our feedback, it's like, he's going to be a tough evaluation because seeing him against Maryland or seeing him against Rutgers, there are weeks where it's like, yeah, he was really good again.

26:50.474 --> 26:52.356
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I didn't get

26:53.517 --> 27:01.505
[SPEAKER_02]: Seeing him against UCLA, not this week, but just around the corner is gonna be a very big deal.

27:01.766 --> 27:02.228
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like.

27:02.950 --> 27:03.911
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.

27:03.931 --> 27:06.035
[SPEAKER_01]: That's definitely one of the more exciting.

27:06.355 --> 27:07.316
[SPEAKER_01]: We can matchups.

27:07.336 --> 27:12.985
[SPEAKER_01]: We have kind of upcoming and looming that are going to be important from a draft perspective and from like just college, top 25 perspective.

27:13.005 --> 27:25.583
[SPEAKER_01]: The other name that I kind of jumped to here, there are a number of alfielder, actually that maybe I'll just throw in the same conversation, feel like Jake Brown at LSU is a player who probably by number of scouts has already viewed as a first round pick.

27:25.563 --> 27:39.848
[SPEAKER_01]: maybe some other teams are a little bit more either skeptical or pessimistic about the defensive profile, the toolset, like we've gotten really wide range of of grades on his speed, his arm, like just the ability of his defense.

27:39.868 --> 27:44.956
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think he's a player who has sort of wide ranging opinions, but is also moving up dramatically.

27:45.457 --> 27:48.162
[SPEAKER_01]: Will Gasbrino, who we've talked about significantly,

27:48.142 --> 28:03.586
[SPEAKER_01]: I would imagine he is kind of the like peak example of a split camp player where it's so easy for a team to just drill over the tool set and upside and buy into the improvements he's made and maybe they're going to be some scouts who are still a little bit more pessimistic that everything is real.

28:04.247 --> 28:07.112
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's a player we have currently in the second run range that might have

28:07.447 --> 28:11.997
[SPEAKER_01]: teams in on him in the first, maybe teams who would be hesitant until the third round, for example.

28:12.017 --> 28:24.865
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Ty head at NC State is another player who's moving up on our boards, but is a player who I've gotten a lot of split camp feedback and thoughts and just like the quality of his power, I think, is maybe the most.

28:25.300 --> 28:32.568
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's split can't be, but the area of his game that is most divisive among the industry.

28:32.688 --> 28:35.030
[SPEAKER_01]: He's having a good year in terms of overall production.

28:35.110 --> 28:43.739
[SPEAKER_01]: You maybe would like to see the batting average a little bit higher than what it is for player who's training in that direction, but he already has eight home runs a year ago hit four home runs.

28:43.759 --> 28:49.485
[SPEAKER_01]: So there is a power uptick, but I've talked to some scouts who might be a little bit more skeptical about how that's going to translate.

28:49.465 --> 28:50.266
[SPEAKER_01]: two wood bats.

28:50.286 --> 28:55.313
[SPEAKER_01]: So those are some of the other maybe more polarizing or are tricky to pin down players so far.

28:55.874 --> 29:00.540
[SPEAKER_02]: I throw Daniel Jackson at Georgia who's having one of the monster season so far of the whole season.

29:01.101 --> 29:03.304
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, it's another one because it's like questions are okay.

29:03.324 --> 29:04.025
[SPEAKER_02]: Is he a catcher?

29:04.465 --> 29:05.687
[SPEAKER_02]: How athletic is he?

29:05.847 --> 29:07.950
[SPEAKER_02]: Is this approach going to play in pro ball?

29:07.990 --> 29:17.042
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of, you know, for a guy who's on pace to have like a 25, 25 season, there's a little bit of a kind of a split

29:17.022 --> 29:19.104
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, his, his bad at ball data.

29:19.144 --> 29:20.706
[SPEAKER_01]: His performance has been tremendous.

29:20.746 --> 29:22.228
[SPEAKER_01]: He's one of the leaders in home runs.

29:22.308 --> 29:24.190
[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, he already has 15 home runs in the season.

29:24.210 --> 29:27.253
[SPEAKER_01]: He, his OPS is currently 14, 47.

29:27.834 --> 29:29.475
[SPEAKER_01]: He's good athlete.

29:29.516 --> 29:30.717
[SPEAKER_01]: He's big and strong.

29:30.777 --> 29:31.698
[SPEAKER_01]: He has a strong arm.

29:31.858 --> 29:35.402
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I've gotten scouts who think there's no chance.

29:35.682 --> 29:38.165
[SPEAKER_01]: He can catch and he's definitely going to have to move off the position.

29:38.265 --> 29:40.127
[SPEAKER_01]: And he really doesn't move as well as you think.

29:40.107 --> 29:56.884
[SPEAKER_01]: He should the hands just need a ton of work and then have a we've heard from other scouts who are a lot more bought into him being able to stick Behind catcher and I'd say the catcher defense always terrifies me JJ because we've just seen it so frequently players who get written off as receivers

29:56.864 --> 29:57.806
[SPEAKER_01]: just a lot better.

29:58.547 --> 29:59.949
[SPEAKER_01]: Austin Wells.

29:59.969 --> 30:02.193
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Cal Raleigh, I would throw into that.

30:03.054 --> 30:04.637
[SPEAKER_01]: Bo Nailer, I would throw into that.

30:04.677 --> 30:07.562
[SPEAKER_01]: There are so many examples of players who just give a lot better.

30:08.283 --> 30:14.113
[SPEAKER_02]: Could I kind of start again, because I love geeking about catching, but it's like, yeah, it is not possible.

30:14.093 --> 30:35.539
[SPEAKER_02]: to have the level of instruction on catcher play on receiving, on throwing, on framing, on blocking, in college baseball, in amateur baseball, then it is in pro baseball, because again, for one, you just don't have people on staff whose entire job is, I'll have him here to do, is work with the catchers.

30:35.939 --> 30:37.962
[SPEAKER_02]: But, too, you don't have enough hours, right?

30:38.022 --> 30:41.586
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to, especially the season gets going,

30:42.055 --> 30:55.142
[SPEAKER_02]: you're playing your schedule and there's not a lot of, you have instruction time, but it's not a law and it's not a lot of individual, there's just not as much time for individualize instruction where literally with a catcher in pro ball, you see when you say, well, why do these guys get better?

30:55.162 --> 30:56.605
[SPEAKER_02]: It's because

30:57.142 --> 31:00.730
[SPEAKER_02]: it is getting so granular of you, yourself.

31:00.850 --> 31:12.254
[SPEAKER_02]: Not in the other country, but you do this thing that we need to fix about your thumb placement or about how far your depth of receiving, you know, catching the ball, all these things.

31:12.595 --> 31:16.804
[SPEAKER_02]: Where you set up, oh wait, you know, we can talk about one knee, but there's like,

31:16.784 --> 31:19.009
[SPEAKER_02]: A ray of one knee setups.

31:19.369 --> 31:21.033
[SPEAKER_02]: This one knee setups not best for you.

31:21.053 --> 31:22.135
[SPEAKER_02]: You need a kickstand.

31:22.155 --> 31:23.899
[SPEAKER_02]: You need to take away the kickstand.

31:23.919 --> 31:27.446
[SPEAKER_02]: You need to go right knee that left knee down like all these things where.

31:28.889 --> 31:37.527
[SPEAKER_02]: When we say like it's kind of like when we say like with Anthony, I am simply last year, right, where we say like a picture when you're like you had really no out of pitch.

31:38.654 --> 31:45.039
[SPEAKER_02]: But okay, well, you could say right now, oh, all these teams missed on him because they waited until he fell that fire again.

31:45.059 --> 31:48.834
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to overreact off of Spring Breakout and Spring Training backfield games.

31:48.914 --> 31:49.677
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah.

31:50.348 --> 31:58.317
[SPEAKER_02]: If I promise you this, you can't just confidently say, oh, he's got to touch a hundred less than 12 months later.

31:58.357 --> 32:04.203
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not development is development and there's never guarantees on this.

32:04.784 --> 32:19.680
[SPEAKER_02]: If we knew that Macy Edwards, if you could be guaranteed, that Macy Edwards was gonna have the Anthony Ionson Velo bump in his first year in Pro Ball, take him in the top 10, you know,

32:19.711 --> 32:23.722
[SPEAKER_01]: pictures will forever be a tremendous headache to figure out.

32:23.842 --> 32:26.329
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that is as true now as it's ever been.

32:27.552 --> 32:35.273
[SPEAKER_02]: So to wrap this up, let's take people a little bit into the, if you stuck around this long, you want a little bit of weeds, right?

32:36.181 --> 32:48.360
[SPEAKER_02]: The thing I love about this, when you get to this point in it, right, is, you know, we're ranking 300, but we have many more names I would say than that right now, many more players that we're looking at.

32:48.781 --> 32:49.963
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not going to have a problem.

32:50.003 --> 32:58.256
[SPEAKER_02]: The goal is is when you go to 300, you kind of already know what the next bump to 400 is largely going to be, and then when you go to 400, you know what the next bump to five is going to be.

32:58.756 --> 32:59.117
[SPEAKER_02]: But,

33:00.194 --> 33:29.188
[SPEAKER_02]: The thing that is that I do think that is important to also realize about this for our listeners, for our viewers is how much the first round you see movement, but when you talk about when you get to that 200 to 300 range, that's where you're talking about players who literally do go from maybe again, maybe some of it is our reporting we hadn't gotten that name yet, but in some cases, I really do believe it's that you were talking about guy who went from.

33:29.354 --> 33:38.311
[SPEAKER_02]: No one, I'm not saying Scouts did know about him, but no one was viewing this guy this player as like a premium prospect to watch.

33:38.331 --> 33:42.079
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they do take that step forward or they get in that new opportunity.

33:42.520 --> 33:43.602
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that gonna jump out to you?

33:43.642 --> 33:46.808
[SPEAKER_02]: Like as you're as we, like, I love when we get to that 200 or 300 range.

33:46.828 --> 33:48.932
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm writing guys up for this that I'm like,

33:48.912 --> 34:02.812
[SPEAKER_02]: This guy's really interesting, like, that's the thing I think about the baseball draft that really does stand out is they're not all most of these guys when you get to that range are not going to end up hitting, but there's a lot of interesting things in that group.

34:02.852 --> 34:09.942
[SPEAKER_02]: I just wanted to kind of give you a chance like if was there anyone that you wrote operating one that you were doing the reporting on in the 200 to 300 range that kind of jumped out to you.

34:11.137 --> 34:12.581
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 200 to 300 range.

34:13.022 --> 34:17.212
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see, just scanning through the list of their names that jump out.

34:18.535 --> 34:28.099
[SPEAKER_01]: I do feel like, and this has come up with scouts, as I've talked to them, when you get to the high schoolers in this range,

34:28.653 --> 34:32.082
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very, because we're trying to line these players up on talent.

34:32.102 --> 34:34.830
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not trying to line them up on where they're going to go in the draft.

34:34.850 --> 34:42.952
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think for high school players in particular, that's important to just emphasize, because sign up here to go on drafted, who, and we had them ranked 82.

34:43.213 --> 34:44.316
[SPEAKER_02]: And that was a good right.

34:45.477 --> 34:59.133
[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like with the trend of more high school players getting to college and just more teams, signing college players in general, we talked about all the incentives, the way you can make more money as high school player in college baseball now, we're previously that wasn't the case.

34:59.153 --> 35:12.008
[SPEAKER_01]: But I do feel like the maybe least appealing demographic for teams as high school pitching in a lot of ways, maybe you could say high school catching is, but in terms of the volume profiles available, high school pitching this year,

35:11.988 --> 35:22.301
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just tremendously talented to me, and I will be really curious to see if they're going to be some teams like the brewers who just take more shots on players like this.

35:22.441 --> 35:40.543
[SPEAKER_01]: There, guys, at the back of our top 300 list, high school pitchers, land and brown, out of Texas, titillary at a Georgia, Jason J. Tronich at a California, Isaiah James at a North

35:40.760 --> 35:46.307
[SPEAKER_01]: On the pitching side, we've got multiple high school pitchers who have already come out this year touching a hundred miles per hour.

35:48.169 --> 35:54.997
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm just fascinated by these pitchers because I do feel like I don't know five, six, ten years ago.

35:55.017 --> 36:09.754
[SPEAKER_01]: We weren't consistently ranking high school pitchers who were throwing upper 90s with a legitimately good breaking ball in this range or they just didn't exist.

36:09.734 --> 36:22.361
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just continue to be kind of shocked at the quality of the stuff that we're seeing from high school pictures and I'm just fascinated to see if they're going to be some more teams to take a chance on some of these players.

36:22.421 --> 36:26.410
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that happens because I do think teams can really get a ton of value.

36:26.390 --> 36:39.292
[SPEAKER_01]: with high school pitchers and putting them in a player development system that is purely dedicated to making them better pitchers because for all the praise that college baseball has been getting for how they've improved with the development, all their pitching labs.

36:39.833 --> 36:44.802
[SPEAKER_01]: It is just the case the college baseball teams incentive is not to make you the best player possible.

36:44.902 --> 36:46.525
[SPEAKER_01]: It's to put on the team.

36:46.505 --> 36:49.469
[SPEAKER_01]: a team on the field that is best suited to win games right now.

36:49.669 --> 37:02.305
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes those can be interlinked, but I do think that still is a significant difference in just philosophy that pitchers can have in pro ball that they don't have a college baseball.

37:02.325 --> 37:07.252
[SPEAKER_01]: So Kudos to the college teams that do it well, but I still do think it's worth mentioning that.

37:07.352 --> 37:07.652
[SPEAKER_01]: And

37:08.813 --> 37:20.211
[SPEAKER_01]: There, again, there were high school pictures who I think are massively talented, who we couldn't get onto a top 300 list that feels unique maybe to this class and to just wear baseball as that today.

37:20.331 --> 37:26.541
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe not a specific player there to highlight, but basically just check through the reports for all these high school pictures.

37:26.561 --> 37:34.433
[SPEAKER_01]: And you'll, I've been surprised, I imagine you guys will be surprised as well, but just how talented this demographic is this year.

37:34.885 --> 37:36.210
[SPEAKER_02]: it really does jump out.

37:36.591 --> 37:37.977
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's a good way to wrap it up.

37:38.017 --> 37:39.784
[SPEAKER_02]: We would would positive way to wrap it up.

37:39.804 --> 37:43.658
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, there's positives, there's negatives, there's a graph update, there's ranking update.

37:43.678 --> 37:46.228
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so much more of this at baseballmerica.com.

37:46.748 --> 37:49.831
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I want to do the disclaimer, because we get this every time we talk about third.

37:49.851 --> 37:51.493
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm surprised you didn't talk about so-and-so.

37:51.833 --> 37:53.575
[SPEAKER_02]: There are 300 players on this list.

37:54.055 --> 37:57.058
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not talking about everyone who's rising or falling or split camp.

37:57.319 --> 37:58.900
[SPEAKER_02]: We can't, we're not going to be your eight hours.

37:59.201 --> 38:02.504
[SPEAKER_02]: But there's much more about that over at baseballamerica.com.

38:02.644 --> 38:04.326
[SPEAKER_02]: And we will cover there much more of those.

38:04.946 --> 38:09.471
[SPEAKER_02]: But like when we did last week, when you did kind of like a rise of advice, I'm surprised you don't have so-and-so on this.

38:09.491 --> 38:12.794
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, well, we've talked a lot about bomb lackey.

38:12.834 --> 38:14.376
[SPEAKER_02]: We've talked a lot about...

38:14.356 --> 38:14.957
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we can't.

38:15.057 --> 38:17.640
[SPEAKER_01]: One was, hey, we'll guess, bring it on the risers us.

38:17.660 --> 38:20.043
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I feel like we've heard about we'll guess, bring it like six times.

38:20.083 --> 38:21.345
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to hear about him in every piece?

38:21.405 --> 38:21.646
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

38:21.926 --> 38:23.328
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I could.

38:23.348 --> 38:27.073
[SPEAKER_02]: But I also understand not everyone's going to see everything every time.

38:27.393 --> 38:28.995
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're like, oh, have they just ignored this?

38:29.075 --> 38:31.078
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, no, we've moved him up three times.

38:31.278 --> 38:34.022
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, you know, it's like, yes, and we talk about him every week.

38:34.062 --> 38:37.326
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it's like, bond lacquets, like, yeah, when you brought bond lacquets, like,

38:37.306 --> 38:44.043
[SPEAKER_02]: Some ways I hate it because like we talked about him already, but at the same time it's like you have to talk about barnlacky Yeah, someone who has made a step forward.

38:44.063 --> 38:48.213
[SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, who I love the video you shared with him like when he was in high school.

38:48.574 --> 38:51.822
[SPEAKER_02]: That watch is like Played to develop.

38:52.105 --> 38:54.070
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the body looks a lot better for him.

38:54.410 --> 38:56.154
[SPEAKER_02]: It was definitely a foul up there.

38:56.174 --> 38:58.660
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that's for you're projecting for years in the future.

38:58.780 --> 39:00.645
[SPEAKER_02]: And sometimes they take big steps forward.

39:01.046 --> 39:05.857
[SPEAKER_02]: But that is today's and this week's baseball America draft podcast for Carlos Clauseo.

39:06.057 --> 39:06.879
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm JJ Cooper.

39:07.120 --> 39:07.701
[SPEAKER_02]: So long, everybody.