00:13.25
Vance 😈
Welcome back to Right Quick.

00:15.99
Nandi K
A bite-sized pop culture conversation with your favorite queer, unfriendly Black hotties.

00:21.34
Vance 😈
We're unfriendly today because comedy is dead. i am Vance Gowe.

00:27.16
Nandi K
And I'm Nandi K. Damn.

00:29.59
Vance 😈
i like I'm lying. I think ah i think um I said that because I've been seeing Scary Movie 6 and they've been like, they're bringing comedy back. And I'm just like, comedy?

00:37.75
Nandi K
Oh, oh my God. She, she died, girl.

00:41.46
Vance 😈
Yeah, like, I didn't know. i didn't i didn't know happened.

00:44.31
Nandi K
I didn't know. I just started talking to her recently myself personally.

00:48.19
Vance 😈
That's my, I mean,

00:48.27
Nandi K
So that's very interesting that they said she'd been dead since when?

00:52.35
Vance 😈
that's my girl. i Yeah, I've never not known her. That's just the homie, like, you know, it's just, yeah, she's just there.

00:58.30
Nandi K
Also, there's been a ton of like comedy specials, I feel like, that have been coming out.

00:58.50
Vance 😈
She's always been there.

01:03.50
Nandi K
like

01:04.23
Vance 😈
Uh-huh.

01:04.31
Nandi K
Over the past year, I just feel like there's been more specials. like Bitch, I saw a Bruce Bruce.

01:10.14
Vance 😈
Bruce Bruce. Yes.

01:11.83
Nandi K
He was on My Momma Told Me this week.

01:12.15
Vance 😈
I did. Yeah.

01:15.51
Nandi K
I lost it. I was like...

01:16.98
Vance 😈
I love Bruce Bruce. Bruce Bruce. I have a fat uncle that was a funny nigga. He remind me of Bruce Bruce. I like I just like yeah this is so this is my uncle.

01:23.67
Nandi K
Listen, listen, he got a new Netflix special.

01:27.74
Vance 😈
Yeah, I saw.

01:27.79
Nandi K
I'm like, yeah, I'm like, we are like, and because we have millennials, were you like a ComicView child?

01:34.03
Vance 😈
Bitch, you know it. So, I mean, on BET.

01:35.46
Nandi K
*sings* Comic view, it's the 10th anniversary.

01:37.47
Vance 😈
Wait, wait, yeah.

01:37.86
Nandi K
Sweet.

01:38.97
Vance 😈
ah So come and dance with me. Dance with me.

01:42.30
Nandi K
Yeah, that was it, baby.

01:42.94
Vance 😈
Dance with me. And then you remember the remix?

01:45.36
Nandi K
Hey, is that when Lil Duval, that's when Lil Duval came.

01:45.58
Vance 😈
Come and be here for me and you. Out with the out and with the new... ah Was he the host? I remember...

01:53.08
Nandi K
I think that was when he became the host.

01:55.06
Vance 😈
I remember Rickey Smiley. I remember Cheryl Lee. Not Cheryl Lee, Ralph.

01:58.18
Nandi K
Yep.

01:59.06
Vance 😈
i' I sound like her character.

01:59.58
Nandi K
No, Cheryl Lee. sure I know who you're talking about.

02:03.62
Vance 😈
Sheryl Underwood.

02:04.50
Nandi K
Yes, thank you.

02:05.30
Vance 😈
And then Lil Duval. And I think I stopped watching when he came on. because um

02:09.53
Nandi K
Yeah, I didn't like him. And, mind you, I'm from Duval.

02:14.87
Vance 😈
Yeah.

02:15.19
Nandi K
So it's kind of crazy.

02:16.44
Vance 😈
I hate that nigga.

02:16.71
Nandi K
Like, I hate him.

02:18.81
Vance 😈
I don't fuck Lil Duval.

02:19.13
Nandi K
i hate his short ass, chiclet tooth ass.

02:21.11
Vance 😈
Yeah, evil. Evil.

02:23.75
Nandi K
Fucking, listen. Anyways, not too, I won't do too much. But yeah, we were kind of raised on like, in kind of, I feel like, especially when it comes to Black standup, Def Comedy jam.

02:36.82
Vance 😈
That was it like Def Jam, a Def Comedy Jam, but you had to have HBO. And like a lot of us did.

02:40.92
Nandi K
Yeah, well, my daddy had HBO, so he was single.

02:42.06
Vance 😈
i mean

02:44.16
Nandi K
he didn't My daddy was single and he didn't have no kids, so he had cable.

02:48.18
Vance 😈
Right. So um so ah HBO and then also ah ComicView was on BET.

02:49.85
Nandi K
but

02:51.14
Aaron Rand Freeman
Yeah.

02:54.38
Vance 😈
So I guess you had to have cable for that too.

02:54.90
Nandi K
Yeah.

02:55.94
Vance 😈
But like but same.

02:56.03
Nandi K
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

02:57.02
Vance 😈
And then it's still on, I think, Comics Unleashed. i don't that's like a um

03:03.26
Nandi K
Oh.

03:03.50
Vance 😈
That's like the no cable having one. I forgot the name of the nigga. His name is like Bryant

03:09.18
Nandi K
Bye. Bye.

03:10.21
Vance 😈
His name, I forgot his name, but anyway, he always has comics on it and they do their bits on the on the couch. but um And then obviously Late Night, if you don't have cable, Late Night is also an outlet for comedy.

03:16.48
Nandi K
oh okay

03:19.99
Nandi K
i was gonna bring up something and i hate and this is and this is the first time we're gonna say this and i hate to even have to bring it up but it is a part of the zeitgeist also wildin out is still on and i want to say this is a nick cannon hate podcast

03:33.37
Vance 😈
Yeah, Uh,

03:37.88
Nandi K
We don't like him.

03:38.50
Vance 😈
uh,

03:39.96
Nandi K
He's corny. He's whack. He got married to Mariah Carey and then was worse was surprised that he was Mr.

03:45.02
Vance 😈
and phone book.

03:49.45
Nandi K
Mariah Carey. Nigga, who the fuck you thought you was going be, nigga?

03:51.86
Vance 😈
Right.

03:52.63
Nandi K
This nigga spreading his seed all over the place, irresponsible, creating broken homes.

03:55.18
Vance 😈
Seed. Yeah. Yeah.

04:00.34
Nandi K
But Wild N Out is still on.

04:02.84
Vance 😈
Absolutely. i mean, like as far as improv, like obviously we have who's line, but then, okay. First of all, we have not introduced a topic this week.

04:10.46
Nandi K
Oh my god, well we're talking about comedy y'all.

04:12.18
Vance 😈
Yeah, yeah, we're in it.

04:13.26
Nandi K
I think y'all, we're we're here, we're here.

04:13.42
Vance 😈
We're already deep in it.

04:15.54
Nandi K
we're here

04:16.78
Vance 😈
Laughter, comedy, yeah. So, ah

04:18.49
Nandi K
And we talking specifically about bBack comedy, and laughing while Black, not about, we don't care what Crackas is doing.

04:22.32
Vance 😈
yeah.

04:25.98
Vance 😈
Oh, well, I was just about to mention who's lying.

04:28.30
Nandi K
Oh, well you can mention who's lying, but yeah, he's Black.

04:30.33
Vance 😈
ah bret Wayne Brady's there.

04:32.68
Nandi K
love Wayne Brady.

04:33.56
Vance 😈
Yeah, he exists on that show.

04:35.29
Nandi K
love Wayne Brady.

04:35.28
Vance 😈
oh Wayne Brady, I do like Wayne Brady. I enjoy it. And then he came out and everyone's like, oh, yeah. But anyway, yeah.

04:41.25
Nandi K
Hey, yeah, pansectional.

04:43.83
Vance 😈
Yes, we love a pan-sectional Kang But yeah, so niggling while Black, laughing while Black is the topic this week So, I mean, we kind of got into It sounds like we, lots of spoilers But like, what is your relationship to, don't want to say humor Yeah, laughter, humor, like, introduction Yeah

04:57.33
Nandi K
Yeah.

05:03.38
Nandi K
Yeah, I mean, I'm Black, you know, I feel like niggas are very funny and funny about even, you know, things that are not funny.

05:08.76
Vance 😈
Yes

05:12.94
Nandi K
um

05:13.29
Vance 😈
Yeah.

05:14.26
Nandi K
So I feel like there's always been like a lot of laughing in my life, even though i had a very sad childhood. I will say it was full of laughing.

05:26.77
Nandi K
Like it was sad, except, and I guess that tracks, right? Like don't mostly sad people be like laughing a lot.

05:31.03
Vance 😈
Yeah.

05:34.05
Nandi K
Yeah. So I feel like that's the truth.

05:34.49
Vance 😈
yeah

05:35.81
Nandi K
Like there is always so much laughter, like anywhere. And that's just like important to me in general. I love laughing and giggling. Like it's so fun.

05:43.90
Vance 😈
Right.

05:44.70
Nandi K
It brings such, I'm sure there's some kind of like chemical thing that happens in your body that makes you like it.

05:51.58
Vance 😈
Absolutely. I think it it's a feel. I think I'm pretty sure that I know that science, but like it releases like a feel good hormone. It must. um But yeah, similar.

05:58.62
Nandi K
Yeah.

05:59.42
Vance 😈
Like, I think just being Black is funny. Like, like we don't take shit serious.

06:01.85
Nandi K
Yeah.

06:04.51
Vance 😈
Like, i the you know, a meme comes to mind that Black man is drinking out of the white solid fountain.

06:10.20
Nandi K
Yeah.

06:10.39
Vance 😈
Like.

06:10.64
Nandi K
Mind you, he was on a runway last year doing a fashion show.

06:13.21
Vance 😈
Yeah, he he is not an ancestor. He's with us.

06:17.21
Nandi K
Baby and fine still.

06:19.61
Vance 😈
Right. So like, but like that right there, right? I think that's just the spirit of us. Where is this? Like ah y'all got all this fuck shit. Y'all ruin everything with y'all laws and y'all the way y'all are.

06:30.13
Vance 😈
And we, and we, right.

06:30.40
Nandi K
Yeah.

06:32.29
Vance 😈
And we still going to get our kiki ha ha zone because like, that's how we get through it. Yeah.

06:36.38
Nandi K
yeah You know, that made me think about about how, like, Black laughter is ancestral. We both listened to um the podcast that Michael Harriot did, you know, that has the book.

06:51.58
Nandi K
Hold on. It's called Drapetomania, The Unshackled History.

06:54.49
Vance 😈
Oh, bitch. I love that.

06:56.09
Nandi K
So they did one episode about the origins of stand-up comedy.

06:56.13
Vance 😈
I love that podcast.

07:00.81
Nandi K
And guess what? We did that, baby.

07:02.23
Vance 😈
Oh. The.

07:04.45
Nandi K
That's us all day.

07:06.33
Vance 😈
The toast, right? Like, like how we used to give toast and it used to just be raunchy and you just say the most outrageous, outlandish.

07:08.57
Nandi K
yeah yeah the dozens even playing the dozens all that like um really incredible

07:14.10
Vance 😈
Yeah.

07:17.24
Vance 😈
did Did you? Did you play? did I mean, i I'm sure I know the answer, but did y'all did y'all do that?

07:23.10
Nandi K
of course everyone does that i mean we everyone has the same jokes i think to like

07:30.10
Vance 😈
we in high school, we used to stand in a circle and just flame each other, just roast mercilessly.

07:34.33
Nandi K
Yeah. Wait, high school, I wasn't doing that in high school.

07:38.08
Vance 😈
Oh, mercilessly in a circle.

07:39.22
Nandi K
I was too, no. I was, no, I was in high school.

07:41.75
Vance 😈
and

07:44.24
Nandi K
i was like, I don't know what I was doing, but I definitely wasn't. That's some boy shit to be doing.

07:49.62
Vance 😈
No, it was boy shit for sure, but we were merciless.

07:50.04
Nandi K
Like,

07:52.70
Vance 😈
And then it would be like, like now you use those skills to work a room and like be nice. You use them for good. But like just like looking at somebody up to down and just like anything wrong with them they shoes, anything.

08:04.58
Vance 😈
And then you say it.

08:05.00
Nandi K
I'm very much like that.

08:05.59
Vance 😈
Yes.

08:06.19
Nandi K
I think we can agree I'm like that now. I just don't, I just keep it to myself unless I'm asked or unless I'll say, I'ma say something shady.

08:08.53
Vance 😈
Yeah.

08:10.90
Vance 😈
Yeah.

08:16.95
Nandi K
And then I let people tell me if they want to hear it or not before I go on.

08:24.56
Vance 😈
I'm a, uh, sometimes, yeah, you gotta to ask for permission sometimes. Like, hey.

08:28.79
Nandi K
Do you want my opinion in or...

08:30.46
Vance 😈
Or I think if it's a close friend, you just say, like, if somebody come out, they dress, they got all all purple and it's a maybe unflattering, you'd be like, okay, grimace. And then you get your little laugh and then you, and then you keep it, you know?

08:42.34
Nandi K
Well, yeah. could Be like, okay, girl, be go be great in your lavender.

08:50.04
Vance 😈
hey right.

08:50.29
Nandi K
go be great in your lavender.

08:52.41
Vance 😈
Right. I see you a pimp named Slickback and then everybody laughs and then you keep it pushing.

08:56.82
Nandi K
My God. Jesus Christ. But that, you know what's so funny about that? Even when you're looking good, that can also happen to you.

09:07.22
Vance 😈
Yes.

09:07.37
Nandi K
So, like, even if you if you look really good, you can also still get clowned. Like...

09:13.40
Vance 😈
Right. and But I think, I think like if it comes from a place of love, it's good. Right. But like, I think if it, if it is shady, like I'm trying to tear you down, I think because like, I think that is how we show love.

09:24.46
Vance 😈
Like, like you said, like in a house, if you not getting teased, that probably mean they don't like you like, or, you know, something.

09:24.57
Nandi K
Yeah.

09:29.66
Nandi K
Yeah, or I don't know you because I need to know your weaknesses so I can truly tease you. I need to know what are you working on i like Where are areas is where you're vulnerable?

09:38.59
Vance 😈
uh,

09:39.81
Aaron Rand Freeman
Thank you.

09:41.26
Nandi K
i can so I can try to use accountability and shame as a tool, you know?

09:41.88
Vance 😈
shut the fuck up

09:45.73
Vance 😈
Um, what can I exploit?

09:47.30
Nandi K
But we were kind of talking a little bit about, like, some of the, like, our early comedy experiences.

09:48.71
Vance 😈
Yes.

09:54.94
Nandi K
What were, like, some of the earliest comedy you remember, like, seeing as a person whose first word was shit?

10:02.68
Vance 😈
Um, I would, I would have to be movies, right? Like, like, uh, I think early movies like life and stuff like that, where like the niggas very fun, like the funniest comedians ever on TV, just talking shit.

10:06.42
Nandi K
Okay. Okay.

10:10.49
Nandi K
Oh, wow, yeah.

10:15.49
Vance 😈
And then I used to watch comic view every night.

10:18.55
Nandi K
Wow.

10:18.78
Vance 😈
Um, I used to three.

10:19.67
Nandi K
You was really living in a wild house. I had to be in bed during comic view.

10:24.15
Vance 😈
um,

10:24.30
Nandi K
I only saw Comic View when I went to my daddy's house because he didn't have no kids and he was single and he had cable. And that was on the weekend, so I would have to watch the reruns. And that was only, you know, whenever he didn't want to live the life he was living.

10:33.77
Vance 😈
um,

10:38.35
Vance 😈
When I was like maybe 16, I used to watch Comic View at 3 a.m. m or 2 a.m. on school nights every night. And I would turn the TV on and I would watch it.

10:45.46
Nandi K
Wow.

10:47.02
Vance 😈
And like, like, I still remember some of the jokes. Like, I remember. Yeah, I just like, that was my shit.

10:50.97
Nandi K
Wow.

10:52.42
Vance 😈
So like, I, comedy for me was like a refuge. Like, like, you know, like I can go.

10:56.17
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

10:56.90
Vance 😈
And like, that was just something that like, like, I didn't even tell people that I was a huge fan of comedy like that. Cause like, I, even now I like having like fandoms to myself where like,

11:05.46
Nandi K
Sure, yeah, yeah.

11:06.68
Vance 😈
Because I think like it's special when it's like, oh, I like this thing and like people aren't like putting their opinions of the thing. on like are like, oh, you like that?

11:13.40
Nandi K
On you.

11:14.16
Vance 😈
I'm just like, no, I just enjoy it alone. It's like a little personal thing.

11:17.38
Nandi K
It's a personal thing I like for me. Yeah, you know, ah in living color, baby, vivid memory for me, my vivid memory, homie the clown.

11:20.63
Vance 😈
What about you?

11:23.99
Vance 😈
Yeah. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah.

11:29.24
Vance 😈
Yeah, homie don't play that.

11:29.76
Nandi K
Homie the clown, also Fire Marshal Bill was like, Fire Marshal Bill went up in my fucking house.

11:33.05
Vance 😈
Yes.

11:34.77
Aaron Rand Freeman
And

11:36.06
Nandi K
like ah Like that just used to go up in my house for some reason so hard. We were always making fun of ah Fire Marshal Bill and always doing like homie the clown bits and like,

11:43.19
Vance 😈
Black people love.

11:50.42
Nandi K
Yeah, I'm sure I hit my brothers with all kind of shit.

11:50.74
Vance 😈
that Right.

11:53.01
Nandi K
Homie, don't play that. Like, oh my God, yeah.

11:55.03
Vance 😈
mad tv i was a Mad TV. I was a mad TV over SNL because of Deborah Wilson.

12:00.79
Nandi K
Well, also, SNL, not really that funny.

12:03.09
Vance 😈
White. Yeah. Yeah, right. Well, my family, my grandma and them watch SNL, so I watch it at they house.

12:09.43
Nandi K
Because they're JWs See what I'm saying?

12:09.41
Vance 😈
But like at my house, Mad TV.

12:12.03
Nandi K
They don't like This is continuing to attract JWs, they don't like fun Like, to be like a SNL Like, SNL, I've only liked certain actors on there I've never been like, oh, I love SNL I'm like, I like Maya Rudolph

12:12.58
Vance 😈
Mad TV.

12:19.00
Vance 😈
erna

12:26.80
Vance 😈
Yeah.

12:32.50
Vance 😈
Right.

12:32.86
Nandi K
That was my favorite time of SNL. That's probably the most consistently that I ever watched is when Maya Rudolph was on the cast.

12:40.15
Vance 😈
But SNL, unfortunately, it's like institution, right? So anybody trying to get into acting and shit, like they pretend they like it.

12:43.83
Nandi K
Right.

12:46.71
Vance 😈
Like even like Black comedians or Black comics, because that's like the pinnacle. Like, oh, you could get on ah SNL, whether you're writing or performing. And I hate that for us because I'm like, y'all know that shit is mid.

12:54.32
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah.

12:57.23
Vance 😈
And like the fact SNL ain't had like a Black woman main cast member until like years ago recently. It's crazy.

13:03.45
Nandi K
Yeah, and she left already.

13:03.82
Vance 😈
Y'all been on like 80 years, right?

13:05.21
Nandi K
She also left. So, you know, yeah, yeah, i yeah.

13:06.49
Vance 😈
They always leave.

13:09.43
Nandi K
SNL has never really been it for me, but, you know, I just took improv for a few years. And so, like, it comes up because it's the only, because it's the institution, right?

13:18.01
Vance 😈
Yeah.

13:21.30
Nandi K
And also it has, like, Weekend Update, which is the longest running current event sketch program.

13:21.27
Vance 😈
It's the bar, yeah.

13:29.69
Nandi K
that exists and arguably their most solid thing but even that's dependent on the cast and I don't be liking it these days because I still see it pop up on my YouTube it's not funny which brings me to what is funny to you like what are things that make you laugh like

13:52.70
Vance 😈
Um, I identify as a silly goose. So like, I think like dumb shit, like unserious, deeply unserious things make me laugh.

13:55.90
Nandi K
know

14:00.58
Vance 😈
Um, I think true, honest things make me laugh. So like, sometimes like that can be mean, but I think like, if it's just like, like, honest in a way where it's like, damn, like that's real.

14:03.74
Nandi K
Yeah.

14:11.20
Vance 😈
Like, like you said, you, you alluded to it, like exploiting people's, like, don't want to say weaknesses, but, but yes, like if you say something that's like deeper than just like you have a snaggle tube, cause I think you can see that with your eyes.

14:15.99
Nandi K
Yes.

14:18.86
Nandi K
Vulnerabilities.

14:23.94
Vance 😈
Right.

14:24.69
Nandi K
Yup.

14:24.66
Vance 😈
But if you're just like, Oh, you, you fear commitment or whatever. Right. And it's just like, oh and like that gets to your soul.

14:30.71
Aaron Rand Freeman
Mm-hmm.

14:32.46
Vance 😈
Right. So like, but anyway, honesty, silly shit, a Slapstick of his done well, that's hard to say, but like I think like physical comedy is like Raven-Symoné.

14:43.77
Nandi K
Oh my God. Yeah.

14:46.45
Vance 😈
Raven-Symoné, complicated figure, but that bitch is funny and talented.

14:48.73
Nandi K
Hey, Sagittarius, it's hard out here.

14:52.67
Vance 😈
Bitch.

14:52.95
Nandi K
it's hard out here. You know, that's that's a good... I also love some physical comedy. The one I always like is when they drop a dummy from the sky or like throw a dummy.

15:00.89
Vance 😈
bitched

15:01.64
Nandi K
Yeah. That throwing a dummy.

15:02.87
Vance 😈
and And it turned into a Martin Martin like That should be so funny

15:04.50
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah. And it's obviously not the person. It's not even dressed. It's so funny. Yeah. i also like, I think that's one thing that when you like are someone where people tell you you're funny a lot and you don't necessarily agree because you're not trying to be funny.

15:22.17
Vance 😈
Yeah I know that

15:26.66
Nandi K
You're just saying, what you think but i've actually learned that finding the funny in the real thing is the key to like consistent comedy

15:34.86
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

15:37.78
Vance 😈
yeah Well, I think, honestly, because of the honesty part, right? Like, if someone once told me, because, like, i used to do stand-up, um like, if you think it's funny, it's funny, and you just kind of have to convince others of it.

15:50.83
Vance 😈
And, like, I think if you understand, because it's a thesis, it's an argument, right?

15:51.00
Nandi K
yeah oh mm-hmm

15:54.99
Vance 😈
So, like, if you understand why you think something's funny, then you could essentially recreate it, right? And I think some people don't, what you just said, some people don't know, like, why they think something is funny, which is fine.

16:04.03
Nandi K
Sure.

16:06.12
Vance 😈
Like, I think there is some comedy that, like, It's hard to explain. It's just like, that shit is funny.

16:10.07
Nandi K
urn

16:11.56
Vance 😈
Like, some some of the content creators that I watch, like, some of them, like, I'm like, I could never recreate this because what is going... Like, a Vinny, maybe.

16:19.90
Nandi K
Oh my God. What happens in Vinny's mind?

16:21.07
Vance 😈
Vinny is so...

16:23.34
Nandi K
The things that Vinny comes up with, I'm like, why are you thinking about this animal at a convention of these other animals that are kind of alike?

16:35.66
Nandi K
though It was one that was like a moth, a butterfly at a moth convention.

16:41.55
Vance 😈
Uh-huh.

16:42.33
Nandi K
i Why did you think of that?

16:45.98
Vance 😈
Yeah, the sentence already. But yeah, like, some people I watch, like, him, where I'm just like, I don't know what's happening. Like, this is funny, but I don't know what's happening. I don't know how he got there. i don't know how we got here, but this is hilarious.

16:57.96
Nandi K
I'd be dying.

16:59.00
Vance 😈
But yeah, so, like, there's some stuff that's, like, hard to define, I guess, but, like, I'm just saying for you personally, like, I'm sure Vinny knows why he thinks that shit's funny.

17:06.26
Nandi K
Right.

17:06.48
Vance 😈
And he's able to convey that to us, so that's why we laughing.

17:06.70
Nandi K
Yeah, of course. Yeah, I'd be laughing.

17:10.25
Vance 😈
And... And it ain't universal. I got that. But I think like that is how you convey your own humor by like just like effectively conveying why you think something is funny. And I think that is like the essence of like just being a funny person.

17:21.98
Nandi K
Yeah, that's a really good way of putting it, like convincing other people that what you already think is funny is funny.

17:29.18
Vance 😈
Right. I know this is funny. like Let me tell you why. the You like, oh, yeah, that is funny. Yeah.

17:34.39
Nandi K
Yeah, you know... Yeah, that's that's so interesting. I'm like getting all reflective being like, damn, it is just a thesis statement.

17:43.19
Vance 😈
It is.

17:43.82
Nandi K
It's just a persuasive statement.

17:43.79
Vance 😈
i mean...

17:45.70
Nandi K
You just have to show the people that the comedy is already inherently within.

17:52.73
Vance 😈
Right. The comedy was you the whole time. Yes. Well...

17:55.61
Nandi K
the comedy is me. I am the comedy. The comedy is within me and you. Mm-hmm.

18:01.98
Vance 😈
Period. But um I feel like you and I have never actually had like a conversation about comedy because I used to think about this shit too much.

18:08.15
Nandi K
No, I don't think so.

18:10.25
Vance 😈
Like I'm low key a comedy nerd, but I'm like I stopped doing it because comedy stopped being funny to me. What I mean by that is like I stopped laughing at jokes that I knew were funny.

18:17.43
Nandi K
Yeah.

18:20.92
Vance 😈
And I was doing that thing people do where be like, that's funny, but they're not laughing.

18:24.06
Nandi K
Oh no!

18:24.89
Vance 😈
but i but Well, because I was dissecting it and I was like, it was like I could see the ones and zeros of it.

18:25.14
Nandi K
Yeah. Sure.

18:29.77
Vance 😈
And I was like, oh, I need to kind of back up.

18:31.61
Nandi K
Back out. Yeah.

18:32.31
Vance 😈
So I stopped doing standup because I was in so many open mics. And I was just like, I was guessing jokes before, guessing punchlines.

18:38.24
Nandi K
Oh no, my god.

18:39.13
Vance 😈
So I had to like, it's not.

18:40.22
Nandi K
That seems very unfun.

18:42.83
Vance 😈
And I had to go back to being a civilian low key. Like, I mean, that was one of the reasons. But like, i but like, I hate not being able to laugh at anything that I think is funny.

18:46.68
Nandi K
Yeah.

18:51.51
Nandi K
Yeah.

18:51.70
Vance 😈
um laughter other than friendship is like saved my life, right? Like, I'm sure that's true for, that's true for so many Black people.

18:56.15
Nandi K
Yeah.

18:58.73
Vance 😈
Like, didn't even talk about the whole, like, the reason we run when we laugh.

19:04.57
Nandi K
No, we have not talked about that.

19:05.51
Vance 😈
It's too dark. o

19:09.08
Nandi K
But we should talk about it.

19:09.11
Vance 😈
But yeah.

19:10.28
Nandi K
Yeah, but that's crazy though. I didn't even think about that.

19:12.09
Vance 😈
Right, like, like white people don't like Black, like they like at least Americans.

19:14.01
Nandi K
Yeah.

19:17.21
Vance 😈
I don't know what the other crackers doing, but like they don't like us. They don't like hearing us laugh.

19:20.70
Nandi K
That's the ancestors. No, they hate noise.

19:23.42
Vance 😈
They hate it.

19:24.05
Nandi K
They hate joy, celebratory sound.

19:24.10
Vance 😈
What they do, they hate riot, especially when we're doing it.

19:26.13
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah.

19:27.82
Vance 😈
So like, like so like i think but I think we know that. Like how many times, like, remember remember like them ladies were in a Napa in California and they were niggling on the train and then they got kicked off and then they sued them and got some money.

19:37.26
Nandi K
Mm-hmm. Yep.

19:40.58
Vance 😈
Like that's, I tell us all this time though, like they don't want to hear us have joy.

19:40.97
Nandi K
Yep.

19:44.83
Vance 😈
they don't want to hear us laugh, which like, which is why we laugh more.

19:46.36
Nandi K
I mean. Yeah. And that's why I think that was, i was going to ask like what kind of like emotions elicit laughter from you? Because I think because of the way that Black people have like situationalized laughter,

20:05.91
Nandi K
I feel like sometimes laughter, like I know if I'm mad and I start laughing, that's not good.

20:11.93
Vance 😈
Oh, I already know. I recognize that as a, like, you in danger.

20:17.09
Nandi K
I'm not, that's not good.

20:18.90
Vance 😈
Right. That's like when, like, uh, like a Batman person smiles or something. to You like, Oh, they about to beat your ass.

20:24.76
Nandi K
Yeah, i other than that, I don't think I laugh in like uncomfortable situations, but that's me being autistic because I learned don't do that.

20:33.62
Vance 😈
right.

20:33.74
Nandi K
And so I'd be like, oh, I won't laugh now.

20:34.25
Vance 😈
I, I, I do. I think um I was going to say shame, maybe shame. But like sometimes laugh to cut the tension. I've gotten in trouble for that, for sure.

20:44.74
Vance 😈
Like especially a boot camp, like ah something's awkward.

20:45.18
Nandi K
Real. Oh yeah, well, they hate that.

20:48.14
Vance 😈
i I laugh when things are awkward because like that just kind of cuts the tension for me.

20:52.79
Nandi K
Yeah.

20:52.80
Vance 😈
But then like you just said, like, that's not normal. Well, I think it is normal. I really do.

20:56.82
Nandi K
It is normal.

20:57.24
Vance 😈
I think like most people's natural inclination is to laugh.

20:57.83
Nandi K
Yeah, it's normal. But they not gonna like that.

21:01.40
Vance 😈
Right, but people don't like that. like But I also laugh involuntary all the time. like I'm always laughing inappropriate stuff. like The other day, I was on a phone call with this woman. She was a parent, and she said that ah she couldn't get a hold of her kid. Her kid is 15, and he left with her.

21:17.02
Vance 😈
I said, ha-ha.

21:19.42
Nandi K
yeah

21:19.77
Vance 😈
And then she was like...

21:21.36
Aaron Rand Freeman
Oh God.

21:24.46
Vance 😈
And then she... She kind of had to pause like, bitch. And I was a lot um ah like, my bad. You just told me.

21:30.36
Nandi K
No, but that's a, good but let's just, but no, but that needed to sink in with her.

21:30.70
Vance 😈
you

21:36.12
Nandi K
Like.

21:36.76
Vance 😈
Like, well you can't tell me that ain't kind of funny, man. Like, you can find your 15-year-old. Like, what? Did he get kidnapped? Like, what happened?

21:45.91
Nandi K
What? You can't get in touch with him. Oh my God.

21:49.21
Vance 😈
But shit like that is what I mean. We're like, that's inappropriate, but I don't think so because I think it's funny that this lady, this adult woman can't find her kid or can't get ahold of her kid. I'm like, what do anyway, but yeah.

21:59.96
Nandi K
Yeah. What was not funny?

22:03.32
Vance 😈
um Oh, punching down.

22:06.46
Nandi K
Per.

22:07.29
Vance 😈
not to say Not to say I never do it, right?

22:07.38
Aaron Rand Freeman
Thank you.

22:09.53
Vance 😈
Because like we all human and shit, but like I do think like punching down is not funny.

22:11.61
Nandi K
Yeah.

22:14.05
Vance 😈
And it's just like, oh, you're you're punching down on a group that like you're above. so like And I think that's like the formula, right? like like

22:21.03
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

22:21.91
Vance 😈
ah You as like a trans Black person, that's your, that like that's your like you have a Venn diagram of shit you can talk about and shit you cannot talk about.

22:25.91
Nandi K
Right. Indeed.

22:30.83
Vance 😈
Fortunately for you, it's a bunch of shit that you can talk about.

22:33.72
Nandi K
That's right. Lucky me.

22:35.45
Vance 😈
I mean, neurodivergent. Like you.

22:38.58
Nandi K
So much.

22:39.86
Vance 😈
And like, mind you, like maybe not too much.

22:41.02
Nandi K
Not much off limits to me, but but also there's levels the shit too.

22:42.94
Vance 😈
Right. And I i mean, like. There is there is.

22:46.14
Nandi K
And also too, I will make a distinction like punching down. I think definitely is like, is this on a platform or is this? Because if I'm in the privacy of my own home, group chat,

22:58.07
Vance 😈
Group chat. With your boo.

23:01.16
Nandi K
with my boo, with my close friends.

23:01.96
Vance 😈
With your dog.

23:04.18
Nandi K
Okay. That's not necessarily like punching down on a group. Usually I'm punching down on an individual very explicitly.

23:10.01
Vance 😈
On an individual. Yeah. Yeah.

23:12.96
Nandi K
It's a single person I'm talking about them, but yeah, I mean, don't be punching down.

23:20.63
Vance 😈
I feel...

23:21.41
Nandi K
You a man, so it's different, but you gay though.

23:23.38
Vance 😈
but But I also feel like they're... Right? Right. Am I a man? who Like, some people don't agree.

23:29.30
Nandi K
Oh yeah, you are you?

23:31.32
Aaron Rand Freeman
Thank you.

23:31.38
Nandi K
Question mark, question mark.

23:31.86
Vance 😈
So...

23:32.86
Nandi K
Find out on an episode coming soon.

23:35.10
Vance 😈
ah You a homo essential? You, but anyway, joking, but, um, but yeah, no, like I think punching down, I'm trying to think like,

23:46.07
Vance 😈
I, I have a hard time holding that. Like you could never make this type of joke because like, I haven't heard the joke.

23:50.95
Nandi K
Agreed.

23:51.39
Vance 😈
Uh, like, like, like, like let's hear him out. But, uh, but But, you know, I would say like, yeah, like essay jokes might be in bad taste.

24:02.46
Vance 😈
ah Pedophile, like, you know, like I think there are like some like, like landmine topics.

24:03.06
Nandi K
yeah huh

24:07.80
Vance 😈
But again, like I haven't heard the jokes. Sometimes I've heard jokes where I'm like, good good luck.

24:12.72
Nandi K
Dead.

24:15.60
Vance 😈
But also like, okay.

24:17.82
Nandi K
Well, let's round the corner here. We're about at the end. Have you seen any good comedy specials lately?

24:24.44
Vance 😈
No, um I think I maybe I saw like a glimpse of the new Katt Williams one.

24:25.87
Nandi K
I

24:30.15
Vance 😈
um

24:30.63
Nandi K
don't know.

24:31.51
Vance 😈
I think my comments are like, I again, back to the whole like comedy is kind of like I kind of stepped away. So like stand up specials, I don't seek out.

24:42.42
Vance 😈
However, with the ah Katt Williams one, I like what I heard.

24:42.65
Nandi K
Sure.

24:46.94
Vance 😈
He was talking about living on a farm and having all these animals. And it was funny because he was talking about something specific to him. And I think he can tell a joke, right?

24:54.58
Nandi K
you

24:56.57
Vance 😈
I do not like when he's like rich nig-noggs talk about anything outside of their own experience, because what are you talking about, bitch?

25:00.70
Nandi K
No. No.

25:04.91
Vance 😈
You're like,

25:04.98
Nandi K
No.

25:05.94
Vance 😈
You're so out of touch and rich. Like, who cares what you...

25:07.80
Nandi K
Yeah.

25:08.46
Vance 😈
Who cares what Dave Chappelle has to say about trans people?

25:11.00
Nandi K
But this is literally what I thought about Katt's Last Special. Katt's Last Special was very out of touch.

25:15.26
Vance 😈
Woke folk?

25:16.40
Nandi K
I think so.

25:17.24
Vance 😈
Woke folk or whatever? Oh, no. That's exactly why I'm like...

25:19.00
Nandi K
no Yeah, I was like, so I didn't even want to watch this one that just came out because that one was...

25:24.79
Vance 😈
It was forced. Yeah, I was like, unk. And like, Katt will say 50 things and like, three of them will be real funny. But like...

25:34.30
Nandi K
Right.

25:35.22
Vance 😈
but But anyway, yeah. um Yeah, no, not really. How about you?

25:39.86
Nandi K
Yeah, I saw Bob the Drag Queen’s special. This Is Wild.

25:42.17
Vance 😈
Oh, how was it?

25:43.02
Nandi K
It was actually really good. Bob is really funny. I've seen a few of Bob's specials. This is maybe like the third of Bob's specials that I've seen. and But this one's on Hulu.

25:52.05
Vance 😈
I need to watch it.

25:53.14
Nandi K
This is like their biggest one.

25:55.59
Vance 😈
I'm going to watch it tonight. um I think Bob is really special.

25:59.64
Nandi K
i agree.

26:00.54
Vance 😈
Yeah, like...

26:00.79
Nandi K
i fully agree.

26:01.22
Vance 😈
um I think there are some artists that are just kind of tapped in. And like, I think Bob is just kind of tapped in. And like, like even the, um I'm sure it resonates with you.

26:08.18
Nandi K
i agree.

26:11.32
Vance 😈
Like the anti, anti, it's almost anti-religion kind of like, they're like through line.

26:15.93
Nandi K
Yes. Oh, yeah.

26:17.26
Vance 😈
Right.

26:17.78
Nandi K
Oh, yeah.

26:17.98
Vance 😈
And I'm sure like, as a, like a former church nigga, like that resonates.

26:21.62
Nandi K
Hey, of course.

26:23.64
Vance 😈
But I love like when like people have like mission, like mission statements that are kind of internal, but it comes out in their work because like your work, you always got Christianity in your work.

26:28.94
Nandi K
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

26:32.79
Nandi K
Oh, yeah. I mean, that's...

26:33.56
Vance 😈
Jesus, right? Like there's always a through line.

26:34.51
Nandi K
Oh, yeah. I always have something about about it.

26:35.83
Vance 😈
Music.

26:38.60
Nandi K
It's gonna come out. There's gonna be some commentary because it's what I... It is my experience. Like, I can only talk about, you know, what I know.

26:43.83
Vance 😈
Right. Right.

26:47.86
Nandi K
Yeah, that was good.

26:48.20
Vance 😈
I feel like we could go on forever.

26:48.86
Nandi K
I saw Jay Jurden's comedy special.

26:50.97
Vance 😈
Oh, I love Jay.

26:52.66
Nandi K
I love Jay, too.

26:56.11
Nandi K
love Jay Jordan. I think Jay Jurden is so funny. i think the pacing...

26:59.64
Vance 😈
Uh-huh.

27:04.57
Nandi K
Jay talks really fast.

27:06.74
Vance 😈
Okay.

27:07.64
Nandi K
And Jay likes to give you a one, two, three. Right?

27:13.46
Vance 😈
Yeah.

27:14.07
Nandi K
But I think there's still a little bit more rhythm. And I've listened to him talk about his comedy, about his like musicality. he he He's talked about... I've listened to him talk about...

27:24.87
Nandi K
like He was on Good One as well. And he talked about how he likes to do triplets.

27:26.74
Vance 😈
Yeah. Oh, I like that one.

27:31.90
Nandi K
And I think... that that's a good pace, but like in a piece of music, you wouldn't have all triplets. So like, I think there's some pacing stuff and that's something I'm sensitive to of like rhythm of speech.

27:46.05
Vance 😈
No, no, that's why I'm laughing. Because, like, yeah, like, you're kind of more in tune with the...

27:47.58
Nandi K
Yeah, like I'm sensitive to like rhythm of speech. That's what I, these are things that I care about, right? Like, because if I'm not hitting the rhythm, it's going to be hard for me to even really be fully like locked into what you're saying.

27:53.22
Vance 😈
Hmm.

27:57.82
Vance 😈
Hmm.

28:01.52
Nandi K
But I still love Jay. I think Jay is really funny, really smart. It just, I was expecting something a little different, I think.

28:09.94
Vance 😈
Nice. I like that you said that about the Sonic thing because, again, I think that's just something I don't think about because that's not my background.

28:10.62
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah.

28:15.62
Vance 😈
But, like, no.

28:16.09
Nandi K
Yeah.

28:16.86
Vance 😈
Nice.

28:17.56
Nandi K
Yeah, it was cool. All right, well, big thanks to our producer and audio Adonis, Aaron Rand Freeman.

28:28.43
Vance 😈
I've been Vance Gowe, and you can find me on Instagram at Sir*beep*thawtt. I think I'm also on threads if you want to find me there. And, yeah, that's it. Who are you?

28:37.88
Nandi K
And I'm Nandi K. You can find me on Instagram threads in blue sky at Nandi K-A-Y-Y-Y. See y'll

28:45.69
Vance 😈
See y'all. Love y'all.

Credits: Right Quick is a podcast for They Agenda Productions LLC. Created by Nandi K & Co-hosted by Vance Gowe. Aaron Rand Freeman is our mouthy producer. Theme music by Luke Santy. Art by Sonia Hunnicutt. If you like what you’re hearing subscribe, rate, and review and follow us on Patreon at They Agenda Productions.