<v Speaker 1>Wednesday, April fifteenth, twenty twenty six, you are listening to

<v Speaker 1>The Daily Deal Sports podcast and I am your host,

<v Speaker 1>Clinton Daily, coming to you from the Myhia City here

<v Speaker 1>in Denver, Colorado, and we are back for another week

<v Speaker 1>of talking sports with a dose of common sense. Hey,

<v Speaker 1>Happy Wednesday to you. I hope your week is going

<v Speaker 1>well and that you, your family and friends, everyone in

<v Speaker 1>your world is staying strong and healthy right now. And yes, kids, today,

<v Speaker 1>well it's a day here in this country that is

<v Speaker 1>not that fondly thought of, because yes, it is tax

<v Speaker 1>day here in the United States.

<v Speaker 2>I mean, isn't that just kicking in the crunch, spit

<v Speaker 2>on your neck? Fantastic?

<v Speaker 1>And you know, I realize that right now in my

<v Speaker 1>home country of the United States, we've got a lot

<v Speaker 1>of division. We can't agree on anything right now. If

<v Speaker 1>one side says, hey, this guy is blue, the other

<v Speaker 1>side says, no, it's not, it's red. If one side

<v Speaker 1>says they like warm weather, the other will swear they

<v Speaker 1>prefer it to be freezing. So today, on this day,

<v Speaker 1>the day that here in the United States we must

<v Speaker 1>file our taxes or else request an extension. We know

<v Speaker 1>how those go. I feel like we need to come

<v Speaker 1>together as a nation. Let us put aside our differences,

<v Speaker 1>let us band together as one because hey, today on

<v Speaker 1>tax Day, I think we can all hate the Internal

<v Speaker 1>Revenue Service together. Just don't mention my name to those

<v Speaker 1>Jack Buddha bugs. It's like putting my name out to

<v Speaker 1>the KGB. Hey. We have a lot of things going

<v Speaker 1>on in the world of sports right now. Rory McElroy

<v Speaker 1>won the Masters in back to back years on Sunday,

<v Speaker 1>the NFL Draft will be coming a little bit later

<v Speaker 1>this month, and both the NBA and Stanley Cup playoffs

<v Speaker 1>will be beginning this weekend. But today I'm the Dose.

<v Speaker 1>I have a special guest that is doing some very

<v Speaker 1>important work in the world of sports, and it is

<v Speaker 1>something that I think you should hear. Right now, let's

<v Speaker 1>get over to our interview with Kathy Riley Baldwin joining

<v Speaker 1>us this week on The Daily Dose. I have got

<v Speaker 1>a guest that I'm very interested to talk to because

<v Speaker 1>she has an interesting story. We're just talking a little

<v Speaker 1>bit before we started recording. She's had an interesting life.

<v Speaker 1>She's done a lot of different things. But Kelly Riley

<v Speaker 1>Baldwin is a writer, she's a humanitarian, she has done

<v Speaker 1>a little bit of coaching. She's a former director of

<v Speaker 1>youth programs, business analyst. She's done a million different things.

<v Speaker 1>She was inducted into the Martial Arts Hall of Fame

<v Speaker 1>with her husband, Keith Baldwin. You might remember him a

<v Speaker 1>little bit for his NFL career, but she's also been

<v Speaker 1>involved in medical studies involving concussion treatments Parkinson's disease. Kelly

<v Speaker 1>formed a special relationship as a young person with someone

<v Speaker 1>that you're going to recognize, and it would lead her

<v Speaker 1>down a path towards helping a number of young athletes

<v Speaker 1>and people. She's still carrying on that work today. Kelly.

<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Daily Dose. We appreciate you being with

<v Speaker 1>us today.

<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. Talent.

<v Speaker 1>Kelly. Let's kind of jump in a little bit. Where

<v Speaker 1>did you grow up? Where are you from? What part

<v Speaker 1>of the country.

<v Speaker 2>I grew up in Strongsville, Ohio, which is a suburb

<v Speaker 2>on the west side of Cleveland, and my parents divorced

<v Speaker 2>when I was young, so I bounced back and forth

<v Speaker 2>between Ohio and New Jersey growing up.

<v Speaker 1>Okay, did you have an athletic background? What were you

<v Speaker 1>doing as a kid? Were you playing sports. Were you

<v Speaker 1>doing things?

<v Speaker 2>Not team sports? But I skied, I sailed, I was

<v Speaker 2>a cheerleader, I had a whoror so I was active

<v Speaker 2>and involved in things, but never never team sports, and

<v Speaker 2>certainly never boxing.

<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, and at that time, I don't know, there

<v Speaker 1>were nearly as many opportunities as there are now. It's

<v Speaker 1>just changed so drastically. But you started to get involved

<v Speaker 1>in these things, you started to get involved in I

<v Speaker 1>guess what combat sports. I guess we would call them.

<v Speaker 1>How did your wife kind of take you down that direction?

<v Speaker 2>So I was never a boxing fan and I didn't

<v Speaker 2>pay attention to boxing at all as a child or

<v Speaker 2>a teenager. My father did, my stepdad did, but I didn't.

<v Speaker 2>And then I was just I would say, by chance

<v Speaker 2>in a hotel lobby where Muhammad Ali was with his entourage.

<v Speaker 2>But I don't really believe that much in chance, especially

<v Speaker 2>when I see, you know, how things come together to

<v Speaker 2>lead someone's life down a certain path. So I think

<v Speaker 2>it was meant to be. Mohammed's business man says, the

<v Speaker 2>keeper of the stars brought us together and knows just

<v Speaker 2>what souls need to come together. But we met Muhammad

<v Speaker 2>Ali in the plaza hotel at New York City, and

<v Speaker 2>from that meeting, his business manager offered to help me

<v Speaker 2>because at that time I was pursuing some modeling and

<v Speaker 2>acting opportunities as a mid market modeling from Cleveland, Ohio,

<v Speaker 2>and his background had been in film. He was a

<v Speaker 2>director of marketing for MGM Studios before working with Mohammed,

<v Speaker 2>and so he said he'd help me, and we kind

<v Speaker 2>of became friends, and we started traveling around with the

<v Speaker 2>Ali Entrage. And this was in nineteen seventy eight when

<v Speaker 2>we met. So it was at the tail end of

<v Speaker 2>Mohammed's fighting career. He had two fights left in him,

<v Speaker 2>and he was focused on developing an amateur team, many

<v Speaker 2>of whom would go on to become world champions in

<v Speaker 2>their own right. And Yeah, we just kind of got

<v Speaker 2>of zor orbed into that incredible group of people and

<v Speaker 2>spent about five years just in that whirlwind. And it

<v Speaker 2>shaped me in a lot of many ways and shaped

<v Speaker 2>in many ways and shaped my future.

<v Speaker 1>Kelly, I'm I promise I'm not trying to aid you.

<v Speaker 1>How old are you when you when you meet him? What?

<v Speaker 1>What age are you at this point?

<v Speaker 2>I was thirteen? Comed Yeah, in middle.

<v Speaker 1>I don't want to spoil anything in the future. I

<v Speaker 1>know you're working on a few things. You got to

<v Speaker 1>tell me what was what was meeting him? Like, how

<v Speaker 1>did this come about?

<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I mentioned that I wasn't a boxing fan,

<v Speaker 2>but you did not have to be a boxing fan

<v Speaker 2>to be a Muhammad Ali fan or to know and

<v Speaker 2>be in awe of Muhammad Ali. He was at that

<v Speaker 2>time the singular most famous person in the world, not

<v Speaker 2>just in the United States, and and this is in

<v Speaker 2>a pre internet at age where being known worldwide was

<v Speaker 2>not something that was easily achieved, but Mohammed clearly was

<v Speaker 2>the most recognizable name and face across the globe. And

<v Speaker 2>he was I mentioned I was doing some modeling. He

<v Speaker 2>was on the cover of more magazines than any supermodel

<v Speaker 2>ever was, and doing television commercials and so forth, all

<v Speaker 2>in addition to his boxing career. And so I was

<v Speaker 2>in awe of him, and very quickly when we met,

<v Speaker 2>I I think shifted from being in awe of him

<v Speaker 2>as a icon and personality and celebrity and became in

<v Speaker 2>awe of kind of his spirit and his temperament, his

<v Speaker 2>caring ways, compassion. I when we met in the lobby

<v Speaker 2>that day, I was in tears because I had left

<v Speaker 2>something in a taxi cab that was very important to me.

<v Speaker 2>It was my modeling portfolio and I had left that

<v Speaker 2>in a taxi cab and I think that my state

<v Speaker 2>of distraught is what had him send Jean Kilroy over

<v Speaker 2>to get me to check on me. And that is

<v Speaker 2>really fitting that that's how we met, because it's one

<v Speaker 2>of the things that I think the greatest lessons that

<v Speaker 2>I learned from Muhammed is the way he lived his

<v Speaker 2>life was that he's had a really strong belief that

<v Speaker 2>whomever God puts in your path, you look at that

<v Speaker 2>person and say, what do they need and what might

<v Speaker 2>I be able to offer them? And I think he

<v Speaker 2>saw me upset and was doing that I wonder what

<v Speaker 2>she needs and maybe we can help in some sort

<v Speaker 2>of way. And that led to, you know, a beautiful

<v Speaker 2>life change friendship.

<v Speaker 1>That's absolutely incredible. That is amazing that you met, like

<v Speaker 1>you said, the most famous person on the planet and

<v Speaker 1>you're just a kid at the time. I'm assuming this

<v Speaker 1>wasn't just a quick meeting. You ended up kind of

<v Speaker 1>getting to know him and having a friendship with him,

<v Speaker 1>though how did that continue?

<v Speaker 2>So when I Jean was also a photographer. I think,

<v Speaker 2>I don't know that he ever worked professionally as a photographer,

<v Speaker 2>but he was very into photography. In fact, many of

<v Speaker 2>the iconic photos that are available of Mohammed today were

<v Speaker 2>taken by Jean. Howard Bingham was Mohammed's most frequent photographer,

<v Speaker 2>but Jeene was with him all the time and took

<v Speaker 2>tons pictures. So Gene offered that day to let me

<v Speaker 2>shoot some photos of you, and you know, we'll see

<v Speaker 2>what we can do to help. I'll get them to

<v Speaker 2>the right people, will get a new portfolio made, and

<v Speaker 2>so forth. And so Jeane shot photos, we exchanged contact information,

<v Speaker 2>and once he had developed the photos, because of course

<v Speaker 2>those were the days where that took a little while,

<v Speaker 2>he reached out to my mom and he invited us

<v Speaker 2>to come to Mohammed's training camp and so he could

<v Speaker 2>have another photo shoot with makeup and you know, with

<v Speaker 2>a stylist and with actual industry photographer. And so I

<v Speaker 2>went to Dear Lake, Pennsylvania, where Mohammad had his training camp,

<v Speaker 2>and had a photo shoot there. And then maybe two

<v Speaker 2>months later, Cheryl Tigus, who was at that time the

<v Speaker 2>number one supermodel in the US. She was doing some

<v Speaker 2>hosting for Good Morning America, and Mohammed was preparing for

<v Speaker 2>his rematch with Leon Spinks and Cheryl Teggs and her

<v Speaker 2>co host David and came to training Camp to shoot

<v Speaker 2>a segment with Mohammed about his preparations, and they invited

<v Speaker 2>me to come back and meet Cheryl and you know,

<v Speaker 2>pick her brain and see if she might be able

<v Speaker 2>to whatever give me some pointers, I guess, and we

<v Speaker 2>took pictures together and so forth. So that was my

<v Speaker 2>second trip back to Training Camp. And so here we

<v Speaker 2>were just a few months knowing each other, and we

<v Speaker 2>had been to visit a couple times already on our

<v Speaker 2>third meeting, and you know, I had not yet turned fourteen,

<v Speaker 2>and things were really starting to roll. And then by

<v Speaker 2>my fourteenth birthday we had begun traveling. When we left

<v Speaker 2>training camp that day with Cheryl Tigus, Jean said, and

<v Speaker 2>I have I kept back at my diaries from those ages,

<v Speaker 2>so I have I have so many things that I

<v Speaker 2>can that I know exactly. My memory is not always great,

<v Speaker 2>but because I have these teen diaries, I have so

<v Speaker 2>many specific conversations that I recorded, Like when we left camp,

<v Speaker 2>Jean asked if we were going to New Orleans, like

<v Speaker 2>he just expected us to be at the fight, and

<v Speaker 2>my mom and I were like, going to New Orleans.

<v Speaker 2>Of course not, you know, but we started doing those things,

<v Speaker 2>and yeah, in no time, we were just hemmed into

<v Speaker 2>the entourage.

<v Speaker 1>How was it just to hang with him behind the scenes,

<v Speaker 1>away from the cameras, Because everyone that I've ever talked to,

<v Speaker 1>and I have talked to a few people, They're like,

<v Speaker 1>he could just turn it on and turn it off

<v Speaker 1>and be the showman and be the most sensitive person

<v Speaker 1>on the planet the next minute. I'm assuming that's your

<v Speaker 1>experience as well.

<v Speaker 2>That's absolutely my experience. I think that the biggest juxtaposition

<v Speaker 2>is a man who gave himself the moniker of the

<v Speaker 2>Greatest could also be probably the most humble person that

<v Speaker 2>I ever knew, and the Greatest and the bravado and

<v Speaker 2>the teasing and the self promotion was just that promotion

<v Speaker 2>and very successful, very well done promotion. Of course, he

<v Speaker 2>was confident in his skills and who he was as

<v Speaker 2>a man. He had conviction about things, so you know,

<v Speaker 2>the confidence was true, was real, But the humility was

<v Speaker 2>so deep, and I saw that play out in big

<v Speaker 2>ways and small ways everywhere we went. I remember going

<v Speaker 2>to a burger joint near his house in la and

<v Speaker 2>him calling the waitress by name and saying, that's so

<v Speaker 2>cool that you'd remember that, you remember her name, or

<v Speaker 2>you're so good at names. And he's like, why wouldn't

<v Speaker 2>I come here a lot like and I had written

<v Speaker 2>in my diary. Then I wonder if she knows that

<v Speaker 2>if she showed up at Mohammed's door, he would be

<v Speaker 2>he would welcome her in and he would be the

<v Speaker 2>one serving her ice cream instead of him being the

<v Speaker 2>one being served by her like that, It's just who

<v Speaker 2>he was. He would answer his own door and he

<v Speaker 2>would offer you ice cream or lemonade, and you you know,

<v Speaker 2>and he remembers the waitress's name. I remember another time

<v Speaker 2>when we were checking into a hotel and there was

<v Speaker 2>a singer and I'm forgetting her name right now. She

<v Speaker 2>was famous at the time, but not somebody who I

<v Speaker 2>don't remember, but anyhow she was. We were in Australia

<v Speaker 2>and she was performing at the Opera House in Australia

<v Speaker 2>and she was checking into the hotel at the same

<v Speaker 2>time we were, and she wouldn't wait in line. She

<v Speaker 2>cut to the front of the line and so forth.

<v Speaker 2>And then the manager motioned to Mohammed that he certainly

<v Speaker 2>didn't need to wait in line, and Mohammed's responses, No,

<v Speaker 2>these people were here before me, like he wasn't going

<v Speaker 2>to go to the front of the line. And so

<v Speaker 2>it's small things like that, and then it's the deeper things,

<v Speaker 2>the way that when he spoke to you, he remembered

<v Speaker 2>the things that you said, He asked the questions that mattered,

<v Speaker 2>he could kind of he just had the insight to

<v Speaker 2>look at me as a teenage girl if he met

<v Speaker 2>you today, to look at you as a dare I say,

<v Speaker 2>middle aged man? And I don't think he would say that,

<v Speaker 2>but yeah, but no, what is it that makes this

<v Speaker 2>person tick? What are what? How might they be hurting?

<v Speaker 2>What might they be afraid of? You know? For me,

<v Speaker 2>my parents had divorced when I was young. I looked,

<v Speaker 2>I think, pretty put together and confident and poised for

<v Speaker 2>my age on the outside. But Mohammed saw right through me,

<v Speaker 2>to my insecurities that I was a girl looking to

<v Speaker 2>prove that I was, you know, worthwhile, worthy of love,

<v Speaker 2>looking for safety some kind of way, because I didn't

<v Speaker 2>feel that I had safety growing up, and I think

<v Speaker 2>he saw that in me, and he saw the needs

<v Speaker 2>of other people in a way that few people can

<v Speaker 2>figure out as quickly as he had the gift of doing.

<v Speaker 2>And then just knew how to tend to that part

<v Speaker 2>of your heart or you know, minister to your heart

<v Speaker 2>in such an amazing way.

<v Speaker 1>So what great lessons And I'm sure you know at

<v Speaker 1>that age you don't grasp really what you're actually getting

<v Speaker 1>to witness and what you're actually learning from it. But

<v Speaker 1>what phenomenal life lessons you take from that, because those

<v Speaker 1>are things every single person on the planet needs that

<v Speaker 1>every single person on the planet needs to learn that.

<v Speaker 1>What great lessons you got at such a young age.

<v Speaker 1>And like I said, it probably took a while for

<v Speaker 1>it to really sink in, but that is absolutely incredible.

<v Speaker 1>Were you saying, and I'm not trying to transition too much,

<v Speaker 1>but were you seeing any slips physically with him at

<v Speaker 1>that point?

<v Speaker 2>The first time I remember being aware of it was

<v Speaker 2>in June of nineteen eighty Sugar Ray Leonard was fighting

<v Speaker 2>Roberto Durant in Montreal, and the night before the fight,

<v Speaker 2>there was a dinner in honor of Mohammed. Yeah. I

<v Speaker 2>still have a poster from it from that event. And

<v Speaker 2>we went to that event. My whole family went to

<v Speaker 2>that fight, my mom, my stepdad, my little sister. My

<v Speaker 2>brother didn't go actually, but I don't know why, neither

<v Speaker 2>here nor there, but we all went there. And we

<v Speaker 2>were at this dinner and Mohammed gave remarks to the

<v Speaker 2>crowd that had come out, and as he was speaking,

<v Speaker 2>I noticed him speaking more quietly, more slowly, and kind

<v Speaker 2>of of having a little difficulty understanding him. And I

<v Speaker 2>asked the person who I was sitting with if they

<v Speaker 2>noticed it, because they were also a good friend of

<v Speaker 2>Mohammed's and mine, and he he said, you know, no,

<v Speaker 2>I can I can still understand him. And I was like, yeah,

<v Speaker 2>I can still understand him too, But I noticed. I

<v Speaker 2>noticed that. So that was the first time I remember that.

<v Speaker 2>And then that was months before he fought Larry Holmes.

<v Speaker 2>I said earlier that it that it was Mohammed's last

<v Speaker 2>two fights. It was really muhammed last three.

<v Speaker 1>Fights, because he retired and came back to fight Holmes,

<v Speaker 1>didn't he.

<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So this in October of nineteen eighty he fought

<v Speaker 2>Larry Holmes and so this was months later. He was

<v Speaker 2>in the ring two more times after that, and that

<v Speaker 2>fight he it was questionable whether he should have been

<v Speaker 2>approved for his box and license to be renewed in Vegas.

<v Speaker 2>His physical was very questionable. And you may or may

<v Speaker 2>not remember that he had taken some thyroid medicine and

<v Speaker 2>taken it in the wrong way, taking too much of it,

<v Speaker 2>and that really affected him. And so it's unclear how

<v Speaker 2>much of how he was in the ring that for

<v Speaker 2>that fight was because of the onset of his Parkinson's

<v Speaker 2>and how much of it was because of other medical

<v Speaker 2>things like, you know, not taking this thyroid medicine correctly.

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<v Speaker 1>sports at gmail dot com. Not to jump too far ahead,

<v Speaker 1>but I'm guessing that you seeing him is what ended

<v Speaker 1>up leading you down the path of starting to study

<v Speaker 1>concussion injury, starting to study head injury, starting to study

<v Speaker 1>some of that. Is that how that ended up kind

<v Speaker 1>of transpiring because of your relationship with Mohammad.

<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I mean I came into brain health advocacy because

<v Speaker 2>of people I love, so Mohammad was certainly the first

<v Speaker 2>that I witnessed. And you know it is many people

<v Speaker 2>believe that Mohammed's Parkinson's was the result of had impact.

<v Speaker 2>Some people will argue that it was not, and that

<v Speaker 2>you know, little old ladies who never got hit in

<v Speaker 2>the head can develop Parkinson's, And that is certainly true,

<v Speaker 2>So no one can say definitively, but watching him, and

<v Speaker 2>then watching the countless other fighters who I became close

<v Speaker 2>to through the years, it's a pretty tight knit community

<v Speaker 2>boxing sure, and I had many dear friends who I

<v Speaker 2>remain close to to this day. Every one of them

<v Speaker 2>is having issues cognitively to one degree or another. Some

<v Speaker 2>might be minor and some might be or some are

<v Speaker 2>very severe. But seeing an entire sport impacted and no

<v Speaker 2>one coming out of it completely unscathed is a big,

<v Speaker 2>big part of why I care. And then I married

<v Speaker 2>an NFL player, and in the NFL wives communities, CTE

<v Speaker 2>is a constant conversation for NFL families. Brain injury is yeah,

<v Speaker 2>an ongoing fear, and the combination of those two worlds,

<v Speaker 2>I feel like for me to not do what I

<v Speaker 2>can in this arena would be irresponsible and wasting what,

<v Speaker 2>you know, my life experience is. I think it's I

<v Speaker 2>think I'm in a unique position and my husband through

<v Speaker 2>I've seen a stark difference between the benefits that are

<v Speaker 2>offered to NFL players, both current and retired, financially and

<v Speaker 2>medically and educationally. Resources they're plentiful for the NFL. It

<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that it's not a very serious issue for

<v Speaker 2>professional football players. It is a very serious issue and

<v Speaker 2>it's a huge cost to count. Whether the sport is

<v Speaker 2>worth the risks that you take, and that's a very

<v Speaker 2>personal decision. But the difference is the gap between what's

<v Speaker 2>offered to NFL players and what is offered to boxers

<v Speaker 2>is absurd because basically it's nothing. Boxers have nothing. And

<v Speaker 2>so I'm really grateful to my husband because he has

<v Speaker 2>joined me in having, you know, in being alarmed by that,

<v Speaker 2>and oftentimes he's been the one who said, we need

<v Speaker 2>to see whatever this opportunity is or this sources, we

<v Speaker 2>need to see if we can get fighters included in this,

<v Speaker 2>and you're absolutely right. And so most recently there's the

<v Speaker 2>Crowley Center for Regenerative Biotherapeutics. They were doing a special

<v Speaker 2>study using xi zomes derived from stem cells and bilical

<v Speaker 2>cord stem cells on one hundred NFL veterans. That was

<v Speaker 2>their plan that they were going to provide this product

<v Speaker 2>to one hundred NFL veterans and then monitor them over

<v Speaker 2>a period of time to see how it helps them neurologically.

<v Speaker 2>And we were able to ask them and they were

<v Speaker 2>agreeable to include fighters, and so we were able to

<v Speaker 2>enroll a number of former world champion boxers into their studies.

<v Speaker 2>We just this past week hit the limit of one

<v Speaker 2>hundred athletes and now are working. They're working to start

<v Speaker 2>a foundation in order to continue helping athletes at no

<v Speaker 2>charge to them because it's a pretty expensive product.

<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, that is absolutely outstanding. Though. That is amazing,

<v Speaker 1>and I'm assuming and I know it sounds like it's

<v Speaker 1>very early. Are you seeing early results already?

<v Speaker 2>The results have been really great. They the first group

<v Speaker 2>that started completed phase one, which was a ninety day study.

<v Speaker 2>And what's really cool about this is that the Excise

<v Speaker 2>have been used to regenerate cells in other uses, but

<v Speaker 2>generally that's done intravenously, but this product is administered through

<v Speaker 2>a nasal spray, so anyone can do it at home

<v Speaker 2>and it's non invasive. And the biggest challenge has been

<v Speaker 2>when you're dealing with athletes who have severe memory laws

<v Speaker 2>to make sure that they have a good support system

<v Speaker 2>so that they can take their nasal spray three times

<v Speaker 2>a day, for instance, And sometimes that support system has

<v Speaker 2>been me calling the fighters and saying did you take

<v Speaker 2>your spray today? Did you take your spray today? But

<v Speaker 2>the results have been great. I have one former world

<v Speaker 2>heavyweight champion who I regularly will just get random messages

<v Speaker 2>from and I don't think he would mind me sharing,

<v Speaker 2>because yeah, he's I think it's okay to share. So

<v Speaker 2>Tim Witherspoon, oh good heavyweight champion, He's one of the

<v Speaker 2>people who doesn't mind me talking about his experience with

<v Speaker 2>the product. But Tim has regularly reached out to tell

<v Speaker 2>me specific things that have changed for him. And it

<v Speaker 2>might be things like I had been getting lost trying

<v Speaker 2>to drive from here to there, and now I can

<v Speaker 2>find my way, or I was having difficulty remembering certain

<v Speaker 2>people's names and now all fourteen of them are coming

<v Speaker 2>to me, or you know, just he's constantly sending specific

<v Speaker 2>examples of things that he has seen change. Other athletes

<v Speaker 2>are having market improvement in their sleep, and sleep is

<v Speaker 2>when our brain detoxes, and so if this is helping

<v Speaker 2>them to sleep, then the cells are able to do

<v Speaker 2>what our body is designed to do to stop the inflammation,

<v Speaker 2>to detox the brain cells to regenerate. And so the

<v Speaker 2>data from Phase one is still being distilled, and I

<v Speaker 2>don't have formal reports on it, but I will very soon,

<v Speaker 2>and all of the initial reports have been extremely positive.

<v Speaker 2>And now some people have started Phase two, including my

<v Speaker 2>husband Keith. Fortunately Keith is in very good shape cognitively

<v Speaker 2>relative to many people. As I mentioned, the NFL has

<v Speaker 2>really good benefits, and one of them is every five

<v Speaker 2>years we do a brain and body program with Tulane University,

<v Speaker 2>and we just did it again in April. And they

<v Speaker 2>assess every part of your body and every body and

<v Speaker 2>brain and every kind of medical test you could imagine,

<v Speaker 2>and they give you great information. But they do brain scans,

<v Speaker 2>and he as a seven year NFL veteran, he has

<v Speaker 2>evidence that shows up in his scans, sure that he

<v Speaker 2>has had damage to his brain from his career, but

<v Speaker 2>thankfully on a functional level, he's in good shape. But

<v Speaker 2>he's still participating in the program. And there's two reasons

<v Speaker 2>for that. Number One, we want him to have the

<v Speaker 2>help to his brain and as much brain longevity and

<v Speaker 2>health as he can experience and enjoy himself. But also,

<v Speaker 2>if we're advocating and promoting something to people, we feel

<v Speaker 2>much better with it being something that we're doing ourselves.

<v Speaker 1>Yes, one hundred and then you can speak from firsthand experience.

<v Speaker 1>You know what they're going to go through that much more.

<v Speaker 1>Speaking of Keith, I believe I have this right. You

<v Speaker 1>both were inducted into the Martial Arts Hall of Fame.

<v Speaker 1>How did this come about? How did you go from

<v Speaker 1>never fighting? You're in the Hall of Fame? What is

<v Speaker 1>going on here? Yeah?

<v Speaker 2>Even our kids thought that was pretty hilarious. So and

<v Speaker 2>a number of people have asked, like, you know, which

<v Speaker 2>of the martial arts do you practice? We actually were

<v Speaker 2>inducted for just contributing to fighters' lives health advocacy, and

<v Speaker 2>it was a great honor and a huge surprise.

<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, well, and it's well deserved because the work

<v Speaker 1>that you're doing. And again, you know, you're talking about

<v Speaker 1>some of the people having some of that cognitive some

<v Speaker 1>of those cognitive issues, those are so life changing to

<v Speaker 1>these people. Remembering your kids' names, remembering why you walked

<v Speaker 1>into a room. These are such impactful things that you're

<v Speaker 1>involved in. It's truly truly deserve and I'm genuinely proud

<v Speaker 1>for both of you. Now, we were talking a little

<v Speaker 1>bit before, and I don't want to keep you too

<v Speaker 1>long because I believe you're down in Mexico. You probably

<v Speaker 1>want to go out and enjoy the beach. Being this

<v Speaker 1>time of year. My goodness, Kelly, you're doing You're living right.

<v Speaker 1>I believe you're putting your thoughts together. I believe you're

<v Speaker 1>putting together manuscripting. There could be a book in the works,

<v Speaker 1>and I feel like this is a book, that this

<v Speaker 1>is the story that needs to be told, because you've

<v Speaker 1>got an incredible story not just of meeting someone as

<v Speaker 1>incredible as he is, but also what you've gone on

<v Speaker 1>to do to help so many people and so many lives.

<v Speaker 1>What do we have gone? What do you got you're

<v Speaker 1>working on here?

<v Speaker 2>So I've written a memoir. It's called Little Trouble and

<v Speaker 2>I titled it that because that's the nickname that Mohammad

<v Speaker 2>had for me. Perfect sure, yeah, And I am now

<v Speaker 2>shopping it to agents because I'd like to publish it

<v Speaker 2>traditionally and maybe when the time comes, we could come

<v Speaker 2>back and let people know, you know, it.

<v Speaker 1>Would be absolutely all in for it. I am. I'm

<v Speaker 1>absolutely you know, we just met today. It was an

<v Speaker 1>honor to meet you. I genuinely was. You know, I'm

<v Speaker 1>so encouraged at some of the work that you're doing,

<v Speaker 1>because you know, doing what we do in sports, and

<v Speaker 1>we know so many athletes coached for years and even

<v Speaker 1>seeing you know, some of those kids go on and

<v Speaker 1>to see some of the issues that some of these

<v Speaker 1>athletes have going down the road. The work you're doing

<v Speaker 1>is is so important, and it's it's not being done enough,

<v Speaker 1>It's not being talked about enough. Here's my question to you,

<v Speaker 1>Where can people keep up with you? Where can people

<v Speaker 1>kind of find you? Is there is there a place

<v Speaker 1>that you would recommend THATM going to find what you're doing?

<v Speaker 2>Sure, I'd love for people to go to my website,

<v Speaker 2>which is just my name Kellyreiley Baldwin dot com, and

<v Speaker 2>they can sign up there to join my writer's email

<v Speaker 2>list and I can keep them updated. I also would

<v Speaker 2>love to be able to embarrass myself in front of

<v Speaker 2>as many people as possible by them following me on

<v Speaker 2>TikTok so Perfect, which is also my name minus the

<v Speaker 2>end because it's one letter too long. It's Kelly Riley

<v Speaker 2>baldwe we yep without the end, and Keith and I

<v Speaker 2>are on there every day because I've been trying to

<v Speaker 2>build an author platform that will eventually help me get

<v Speaker 2>the word out about the book.

<v Speaker 1>Kelly. When the book comes out, and I genuinely mean this,

<v Speaker 1>please reach out. We would love to have you on again,

<v Speaker 1>would love to read a copy, and would love to

<v Speaker 1>get that out to people as well. Again, what you're doing.

<v Speaker 1>Phenomenal work by you. And I've also got to mention

<v Speaker 1>your husband, Keith as well, remember him a little bit

<v Speaker 1>when he was when he was playing football too, So yes,

<v Speaker 1>uh believe it was he a Texas A and m guy.

<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I gig them, baby.

<v Speaker 1>That's what I thought. I thought. I wasn't sure my

<v Speaker 1>memory was accurate, but I thought that he was. Kelly.

<v Speaker 1>I want to thank you so much for stopping by

<v Speaker 1>the Daily Dose telling your story and again would love

<v Speaker 1>to have you back and talk about the book when

<v Speaker 1>it does come out. I think it's going to be

<v Speaker 1>very well received, and again it's a story that needs

<v Speaker 1>to be told, So thank you very much, appreciate.

<v Speaker 2>It, beautiful, thank you, great time.

<v Speaker 1>Hey. Next week on the Dose, we will be catching

<v Speaker 1>you up on all that is going on in the

<v Speaker 1>world of sports, including those NBA and NHL playoffs, and

<v Speaker 1>we will begin taking a brief look forward to that

<v Speaker 1>NFL draft. It is coming quickly, so be sure to

<v Speaker 1>stop by the Dose and be sure you let a

<v Speaker 1>friend know to do the same. Hen you want to

<v Speaker 1>say thank you so much to Kathy Riley Baldwin for

<v Speaker 1>stopping by the Daily Dose. I enjoyed our conversation and

<v Speaker 1>hope you'll stop by again. I encourage all of you

<v Speaker 1>to go over and check out her work at Kathyreileybaldwin

<v Speaker 1>dot com. And I want to say thank you to

<v Speaker 1>each and every one of you for listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>HOPS say thank you to JSP. Could not do any

<v Speaker 1>of this without you. I will see you on next Wednesday.

<v Speaker 1>Have a great week, everybody.

<v Speaker 2>Isn't that right? I mean, isn't that just kick you

<v Speaker 2>in the crotch, spit on your neck? Fantastic