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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey everybody, JJ Cooper Colis-Closo, another baseball America draft podcast, and we are excited.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We are giddy and we're a little fatigued.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're gonna say excited or tired, JJ.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Excited or tired?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Both, both.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because the draft are rankings are now expanded with reports to 400, the top 400 players for the 2026 MLB draft.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we don't just add 100.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We reorder everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We get all kind of feedback.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We basically take every opportunity when we do this to say, okay, this is as best we can understand it as of the end of April 2026 now it's going to change again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But man, there is nothing like that feeling.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think I called you right after I found out the last one to file.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I called Carlos, it's like, you know, how awesome is it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We were done.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, we're just done for like, okay, take a pause.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Take a deep breath.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, now let's get to the 500.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's better still update reports on a bazillion guys, you know, as the season wraps up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got to add the senior signs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think when Saul said and done, we'll probably have.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think we'll have at least as there are draft picks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, definitely we'll definitely have that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you're talking about I thought you're about to say how many more updates will have, but we'll have one more update to expand to 500.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we always have, I think two more after that, just for final tweaks, there's combine, there's postseason, college hub, there's Cape Cod League stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we want to update as much as we can leading up to the draft.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I do think it is,
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just super useful to iterate throughout the year because things changed so frequently in the side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We said all the time, I was talking to a scout.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just yesterday, I asked him about the players he has in his area and what the order is of those players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, honestly, like, I'd change it weekly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, okay, well, that's good to know because we kind of do the same thing and I feel like it's always a case where
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[SPEAKER_02]: You feel good with the list in the moment and then the second you look back at it again, you're like, oh, I could change this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could tweak this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this player's not doing this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a constant cycling and in trying to reflect all the information we're getting and it's 400 players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it is a lot of movement.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll say with that, like just the example that always stands out from recent years is the Cate Horton example, right, which is when we say that we will keep updating.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There are examples,
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[SPEAKER_03]: made themselves millions of dollars by late season performance.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we will be crazy to go, no, I mean, used to be, hey, it used to be that in the olden days, before Carlos was that B.A.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And really even before I was at B.A., the draft rankings were you locked it in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You sent the magazine to the printer and at that point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I do remember one year for the Mac, like we did actually, I should say, when I was at BA there was a time where we said that the rankings, which I think was the 200 at the time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But the 200, the rest of the state list went way beyond that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But our 200, we treated it as it was locked in once the magazine went to press.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh, if we had to be locked in with the press date for the draft preview issue.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, and then there was a year where I want to say a first round talent blew out in like super regionals after we went to the magazine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like we can't just sit here with our web rankings and say that we're going to keep that guy there even though we won't go there and then I think that's what we changed it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we're going to dive straight in because we know that's what you all want to hear about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll start with the easy number one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We said rock.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I know that there has been a reporting out there as we talked about last week on the show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, if you are the white socks, there is no way there's nothing to be gained by at this moment saying, Rochalowski is clearly the number one pick.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to pay him whatever we need to pay him, you know, we're gonna go slot for him right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just done.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a process to this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a negotiation to this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to go through that, but that said, Rockshelowski's not only number one on this list.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's also on a power here right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Looks like he has a chance to have more homers this year than he had last year, which
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, if you like a week ago, I think we didn't basically expect that, which again shows you how quickly things can change, but also I guess for rock, the story is mostly how things stay the same because he has been number one on our board ever since our first combined draft ranking for this list, it would be very, very surprising.
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[SPEAKER_02]: if that changed moving forward his his season right now looks almost identical to what it looked like a year ago in terms of performance stats rates stats and we talked about if you missed it last week's podcast uh draft podcast we really went in depth into rock season so if you want to hear more about like what we're liking what we're hearing what we're seeing some of the marginal small improvements he's made I would encourage you guys all to check that out but essentially
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[SPEAKER_02]: Rochilowski continues to lead the class.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No one that we talk to relieving questions at this point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it gets a lot more interesting after him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, if you're a white socks fan, it just is very typical this time of year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Once national reporters get interested in the draft, start thinking about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You'll start here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they're considering everyone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because, again, you should.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It would be, you would not be doing due diligence.
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[SPEAKER_02]: considering everyone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're not seriously scouting all the top players in the class, you never know what's going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But in terms of the talent of this class, Rochalowski is still the most talented player.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It would be negligence to be like, no, we don't need to look at any of these other players.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who's Von Lackey?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We don't know who Von Lackey is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why do we care?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just say for if you're a white socks fan and you're like think rock is the best player, and you really want the white socks draft Rochalowski.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In 2019, Adley Rushman was kind of in the same spot and around this time,
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Baltimore Orioles were not saying, oh, we're obviously taking Adley Ratchman.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were playing this exact same game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there was this collection of players they were scouting, which again, they should.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They gained nothing by saying, yes, we're taking this player, obviously.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They wanted to maintain as much realistic leverage as they can.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ultimately, I still think it would be difficult to project anyone other than Rockshelasky for that pick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we'll keep in tabs as we approach the draft, so.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the other thing that we did,
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[SPEAKER_03]: is we did a staff draft that went up Monday with 75 picks deep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, we will do the standard disclaimer point here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a staff draft.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was us picking for these teams, not what we think.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, let's just let me give you a little insight here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you think that on, we're recording this on April 29th, we did this a week ago.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you think that in mid April, you can be like, here's who's gonna be going at picks 68.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, but we can, we can say here's what we would do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We've studied these players and all that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think that the most important thing that came out of that is,
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[SPEAKER_03]: where you picked it's always useful to do it, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like when we do it, one of the things that happens every time I feel like is there's two things that happen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: One is you very quickly realize what is the pick it which you're like oh this is going to get a whole lot tougher if everyone does as I anticipate them to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where does that demarcation line where it goes from easy to difficult I'm making a decision?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I would say the second part of it is is, every time we do it, there's a couple of players where
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[SPEAKER_03]: We've got preliminary rankings for this, and it's for very useful exercise to be like, wait, no one's taking that player.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Over and over, maybe we should go get more feedback on whether we're underrating where that player actually should go, or if we should move that player down because this is more accurately reflecting what,
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[SPEAKER_03]: the general thinking is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Demarcation line wise, where did you find that there was like a cut off where it went from being easy to hard in figuring this out?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I feel like both me and you were at maybe the first cut-off line or very near it in this trash.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I picked fourth, you picked fifth and we didn't have it a snake cycle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just one through six and then we repeat the order.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was picking fourth and I was a little bummed about it because I really wanted to get one of Rock Chilowski, Grady Emerson, or Vaughn Lacky.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted one of the top hitters in the class.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Picking four, I was like resigned to the fact that, okay, at this point, it's going to be a tougher call for me because I'm going to have to decide between Jackson Flora, who I think is probably the most talented player, not of those three hitters that I mentioned, and then, I
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[SPEAKER_02]: some of the high school profiles who I just have a little bit more concerns about thankfully Jacob was picking in front of me and I think he is the highest BA staffer on Jackson Flora, the UC Santa Barbara pitcher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He took him third so for me no brainer, Von Lackey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He kind of just fell into my lap.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like personally,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like the top three at a pretty significant level, but I also feel some comfort in just the top six players overall, which are all the names I just mentioned, plus Jacob Blombard and Florida and Eric Booth in Mississippi, but you're picking five taught me through like what you were thinking and if you felt like there was a clear de-markation either before you or behind you because I do think it's three to five maybe six players at the top.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I'll describe it as even more stratified to get complex, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think there's a stratification of one, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Agreed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Doesn't mean if you told me that gravy Emerson some day ends up being better than Rockshelowski, that's very possible.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We saw that with Bobby Witt Jr and Emily Rushman.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But when you talk about track record, premium position,
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[SPEAKER_03]: don't make this too hard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Rocked to Laoski's just sitting there at one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like that there's a next two after that, where right now is its stance.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you said you get Von Lackey or you get greatie Emerson, you're like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: If I get to choose great, and if I don't, I'll take whichever one you give me, and I'm not going to even, I'm not giving in a second thought that's exactly where I was in my preference would be Emerson and Lackie just like our draft board order is I'm not sure if you have a difference there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would, I would have to I would have to give it a little bit more thought and it also in that case that is one where I would say it's close enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: team need probably does.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, Jake, you know, if you think two players are equivalent, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you think they're equivalent, yeah, sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because what I'm saying is, okay, but if you think they're equivalent, I would say even beyond team need, it's probably cost.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I would, you could say cost, but I'll go a different way on this, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: If I'm the raise, okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: The raise.
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[SPEAKER_03]: have never, like, for one, the rays have demonstrated that I do not think that the rays value catching the same way that most of the industry does.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, they have never spent big, I know they don't spend on free agents, but they don't spend big on it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They've never, like, when even in trades, like, they trade for everything, but they've never been like, oh, we're gonna bring in this hot prospect catcher in the deal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They don't look at that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They've never, they really have never in the history of the organization developed a long-term quality catcher.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The giants, I mean, are kind of catching you, like, again, I'm not saying Patrick Bailey's, Patrick Bailey's great defensively, but they went buster posey, then they went Patrick Bailey, right, like in a span of sure, Patrick Bailey is better than any, catcher of the race.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So like what I'm saying is, if I'm the race and I'm picking it too,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I might be a little scared to take the catcher.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know you could say, well, then you should take the catcher.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if that's the fit for them, whereas I kind of know that they do good, they do a good job of developing guys like Emerson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what I'm saying is, I think that those things play a role.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't mean from a standpoint of,
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is not a case of take the college guy because you're going to win next year or not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Catchers take a little while a lot of times to develop.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean from a standpoint of, you should, if you think these guys are somewhat equivalent, I think you should look at a say, do we feel better about our ability to develop this type of player or this type?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I agree entirely with that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think there's that three, but then I think it's really five, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I know you said six, I disagree with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think at five, I think if you take Lombard, that's kind of that last point of
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think in terms of the industry's consensus, or at least our best ability to perceive that consensus, I do think those are the five.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I will say, Jacob Blombard is like the exact sort of profile that I'm typically very drawn to, but the swing and miss from last summer just gives me enough pause that I'm considering guys like Eric Booth Jr. there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm considering guys like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: So your straw Snyder who has the tool set on the college that I'm considering guys like Cameron Fluky who I got to see this past weekend Then maybe we could talk briefly about but tell me about why you so you took Jacob long barred five What made you confident in that pick and I it sounds like you didn't really have to think too much about it Confident maybe a little strong right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I do feel like I would do not feel the same way that I would if I got bomb lackey at three Where I'd be like for before I got before yeah, you got before I'd be like
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[SPEAKER_03]: Cool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're rolling.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have very like I have very I know any of these players.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Look, the draft is not a certainty, but I feel really good about the confidence level.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you take Von Lackey any time you look, Jacob Lombard is not a he is that's why I say there's a different tier here, even if Lombard, he's in a different tier and I would put floor in that tier too, where it's like you can feel really good about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: These are top talents, but
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you told me that Lumbard ended up being okay or they're, you know, like, again, like you talk about the swing and miss, you could talk about a variety.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I just don't feel that's the same thing as even when we're comparing to Brady Emerson, which is the, you know, that level.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But then after that, like you said, like, where I say, I disagree is is nothing against Eric Booth Jr.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But that is a profile that I am not nearly as comfortable with, which is,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like that if the college bats in this class, non-lucky slash rock division,
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[SPEAKER_03]: we're better or more, you team for more confident about them, I feel like booth is the perfect kind of guy to be a back of the top 10 guy, much more than a guy where you're like, you're picking six and you go, well, this is clearly number six.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that you have a lot of ways you could go there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I do think that when you get beyond that, when you get to that
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[SPEAKER_03]: Whew.
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[SPEAKER_03]: At that point, it was like, you go where you want to go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, do feel like wherever you draw the line for your top tier or your top group of players, whether that's four or five, six.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Once you get into that next one, the unique thing about this year's draft is that next
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure that I have much confidence at all that the player you're going to get at 10, 15, is significantly different than who's going to be taking at 30, 35.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I do think that as we got further into this staff graph,
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[SPEAKER_02]: going down like you said, we expanded to the top 75 picks, which really allowed us to kind of get into the depth of the class of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I liked all that every time that we make a further because it was not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We were not just throwing darts or anything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, and it was players that you really find yourself liking I do think that like for all of the.
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[SPEAKER_02]: maybe pain of separating players within the middle of the first round this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The lack of profiles teams want the death is really just fun in this class.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There are a lot of profiles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever you find yourself liking, there are players of that demographic that you can take.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that was interesting in the staff you have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe I'm not sure exactly what order you want to get to these.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But what was interesting to me in the draft update was we were pushing high school
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that feels very counterintuitive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like one of the first years I can remember, and my time covering the draft for baseball America where we've moved as many high school pitchers up the board at this stage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is almost always the case where...
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[SPEAKER_02]: those high school pitches for us start high, the summer before all the teams see them, there's a lot of electricity, they're great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then throughout the course of the college season, teams just feel safety with college profiles that are college haters who perform, so they move out the board, they're college pitchers who come out and perform, so they move out the board as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And those high school players kind of just slip down in connection with that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now we do have some college pitchers in particular who are moving out the board,
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[SPEAKER_02]: College hitters who are displacing the high school pictures and maybe it's also the fact that this high school pitching class is just very talented and I am increasingly just wondering.
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[SPEAKER_02]: are these high school pitchers actually going to go where they seem to be spotted and fit on talent now or as we get further into the final weeks of college play, are they're going to be college hitters or college pitchers who perform in the post season who make runs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We see it every year with college arms, I'm just kind of very curious where at the end of the day we wind up because I don't know take take that however you want to go JJ, but that just dynamic feels unique to this class.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's something where I feel like we both think that this is what's gonna happen, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're trying to, we are getting feedback from people, decision makers with MLB teams.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And let's be clear.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna cover a couple of players in a few minutes where it's like, this is not the Carlos Coloso ranking or the JJ Cooper ranking.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The staff draft gives us a little bit of an opportunity to spread our legs and kind of show what we think.
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[SPEAKER_03]: if we don't have to believe in a guy to put them where if we have consistent feedback on a player and that's what that's what we did here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: These high school arms moved up because we were hearing consistent feedback, that guy needs to be in this range, this guy needs to be in this range, move that guy up and we were getting consistent feedbacks with that
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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, that's second tier of college bat, not the rock and the rock and lackey, the Tulaski lackey top of the draft, but that second tier, the straw sniders, the ace Reese's, the, you know, all of those guys, the, the, the Drew Burris's and Derek Coriel's and all those guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What we were getting is maybe your little rich on that guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you need to move that guy down a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we did, but I do agree, like the names that are there college wise may keep changing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We've seen that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to talk about some of these guys who have moved up and as other guys have moved down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're not going to talk about him in depth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Carlon, for example, you know, the lefty who's the lefty starter who's up to a hundred.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And there's a state.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a guy who's moved up because he's doing it, but so the names are changing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you ask me, how is this, how is our order going to change between now and two and a half months for now?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be that the college guys, they're going to be more college players that we have ranked in that top 20 ranked, just because at the end of the day, there are very, very few prep pitchers that teams are comfortable.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There are the teams are comfortable taking in that top 15.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's one thing to say, this is going to be our second pick in the draft, and we're going to pay them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then it is to say this is what our draft is built around speaking speaking of those pictures speaking of those hitters we're going to tie them to more of this right after this quick break.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Carlos, before we get to, I want to talk about selling pictures.
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[SPEAKER_03]: very early in the season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We were talking about Justin LeBron, being a guy who could make that case, had a chance, if the conference, we'd said at the time, we said, hey, Alabama shortstop Justin LeBron, the concern last year was, didn't perform in conference play, and that really kind of derailed his season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But so he's coming into this year, good start to the season, just a question of can he keep that up in conference play or at?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Real rise.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's no longer in our top 10, and I think you could be summarized as we're seeing the, unfortunately for him, we're seeing the same problem this year that we saw last year, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we are and it may be as even worse than last year if you look at just his conference performance and all three of his years at Alabama, it's just been worse year after year after year he hasn't made the sort of progress you would like to see him make or maybe you would expect that he would make he's currently hitting 217.
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[SPEAKER_02]: 309, 361 in conference play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the strikeout rate is maybe the one thing you could point to and say, okay, that is better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's even started creeping up in conference play compared to what he was doing on conference.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's still at a 22.3% rate, which is higher than what you'd want for a player that you're considering with the top five overall pick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it feels like he's closer to pick 30 right now than he is to a top five pick, which really pains me because Justin LeBron, when you see him going well,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I talked about it early on in the year, like in terms of tool set and athleticism and upside potential, I really thought that he was close to Rock Jelowski.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There are a lot of scouts I talked to who believed the same, but we've lowered him closer to 20 at this point, and it was almost like, hey,
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[SPEAKER_02]: we're keeping you in the top 20 because of what you've shown us in the past because of that upside because that tool set like I think there would be a realistic case to push him down even more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if he continues to struggle, I would imagine that he creeps into the 20s.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He is maybe one of the more
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[SPEAKER_02]: Confounding players to figure out, especially when I'm gonna do the next mock draft, I have no idea how I'm gonna figure out like where to place him, because if you're looking at upside and tools, he belongs in the top 10, but in terms of performance, it's just been really bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no other way to put it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he has not been good defensively either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like, oh, he's struggling with the bat, but he's really made strides defensively.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If anything, that has just been worse.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then it was a year ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is going to be, whoever takes him, I imagine it's going to be a very squeamish sort of pick because it's not the sort of profile that you can look at on point two and be very confident in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think there are a lot of things he's going to need to figure out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to need a lot of help developmentally on both sides of the ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But at the end of the day, people are going to look at the athleticism and physical tools and say, what if someone's going to take a shot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just I don't know where that's going to be at this stage.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What strikes me, I think, covered more of these trusts than I would like to admit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But one of the things about this is there are, again, we root for players.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We would love to be talking at draft day saying, man, Justin LeBron really turned it around in the second half of the conference play and his answer to a lot of these questions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But as it stands right now, you do see examples of players who
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[SPEAKER_03]: what I would say is like, when they're get picked, it's going to be, okay, well, you can use J-Slaw, the example from last year, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where when you take him, what you're gonna be able to say is we never imagined that we were gonna be able to get a player with this kind of talent at this pick, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure that there are examples of those that have really paid off in the long run,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would say Ryan Howard, I mean, we're going back away.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's because Ryan Howard's been retired.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Phillies, the Philly's first basement.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He had a really bad draft year and really kind of fell in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so that year, you could have said, we never imagined that we would get a guy who saw more season he had that we would get a guy like this at this spot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he ended up being really good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I would say more often than not,
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[SPEAKER_03]: There is like, it's kind of the player who has a great start to their like, they start the draft process and their freshman is sophomore year here and then it slides down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, usually that's because, and again, I think teams are able to train a little better now but usually that's because there's some aspect of their game that can be exposed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and the game is a very cruel is very cruel in that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Once that gets figured out, once those issues get figured out, you have to fix them or they will keep getting hammered out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think I wonder if there's just a question of, like, hey, when other teams make those adjustments to you, you've got to be able to then make the adjustments yourselves.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you're not making that progress here over here, as you get older in the competition relatively, gets younger compared to you, I do wonder if it's just, hey,
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[SPEAKER_02]: in pro ball to be a successful hit or you kind of constantly have to make adjustments and react to what the opposing team is doing to you, correct for your holes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you don't show that you can do that over the course of a college career, I do see how that would be a pretty big concern for teams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, Justin Ron, hopefully he can kind of tune things up down the stretch, going a hot streak, gives him some more confidence.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, tracking down a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There are two pitchers who I think very much is you look at our updated rankings.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can say that's true about Logan Rediman.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we've got one college and one high school here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Logan Rediman, college pitcher, very much doing that on the West Coast UCLA.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then we've got
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[SPEAKER_03]: that profile that we don't see all that often, but we are seeing a little bit more nowadays than we saw before, which is that Northeastern high school pitcher who's really kind of emerged on the scene, which is Brody Goodmilla, who
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[SPEAKER_03]: No one will ever be able to say that the baseball America that we just, you know, we didn't have looks at Brody Bammilla to figure out what it was because like we got the whole Massachusetts contingent basically at every one of his starts I think that we've pretty much we may have video of every pitch that Brody Bammilla has thrown I feel like in the season or pretty close to it at least, but why are they moving up so much?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, for Logan Reddeman, it's pretty straightforward.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He continues to perform.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He continues to throw strikes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He has, as we sit here now, a sub 3 ERA to 0.87 to be exactly 10 starts 59 innings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got a minuscule 4.7% walk rate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he has basically become one of the most consistent Friday night pitchers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In college baseball with the command that was kind of always except exceptional prior to the year we had Logan Rediman on our sleeper list as players who could take a step forward.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I really liked Rediman because I was like, hey, the strikes are here, the command is here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The arsenal is pretty solid all around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't the most exciting fastball and he's kind of addressed that we kissed area of his game, which I would say is just pure fastball velocity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's up multiple ticks on average and he's also doing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: With UCLA now, I think there just is something to doing it with a team like that when you're playing alongside the number one prospect in the game, you do have the advantage of playing better competition, but his first two years of San Diego, he certainly didn't have this sort of spotlight that he has now and he's improved pretty much across the board, he is now college SP3 on our list and I do feel like he's a player that if he went inside the first 10 picks at this stage that really wouldn't be shocking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, Brody B. Meila, the Massachusetts High School left-hander is a much more, maybe interesting player for the reasons you mentioned.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't see it a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, this is the one where I, I, and I, I don't want to be negative about, but with, with, with, you meila, my, my question is just like, our team's actually going to do it because in terms of our feedback,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nearly across the board he's getting top 15 top 20 feedback, but we have seen for years teams are very hesitant to take these profiles, high in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I, as we say here today, I'm very skeptical about whether or not they'll do it, and it's not just because Brody Vue Milla is a high school pitcher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen the elite high school pitchers go in a good range and just a year this is not me coming out against high school pitchers just a year ago I was saying Please say Seth Hernandez first overall.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the best player in the class.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the best upside but JJ you looked into this The track record of high school pitchers who have already had serious elbow surgeries at this age is frightening and you also have I think the what what what also surprises me about just like How high he's being pushed or talked about
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[SPEAKER_02]: is he's really not their own very many secondary pitches this spring.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so for me, I just feel like there are a lot of question marks that I would have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no doubt that he's got a potential 80 grade fastball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's six foot nine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's getting up to triple digits from the left side, which in and of itself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: is extremely rare.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We just talked about Jack Barry year going to be the first ever hundred mile power left in a high school picture.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Brody McBillett is in that club.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I get why you like him on the upside is high.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just right now, like if you said, hey, will a team draft him top 15?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It feels hard to say yes, but maybe they will.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I will also say he's athletic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I say this, okay, this is going to sound strange when I'm saying he's not a fake athlete, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: If there is a tendency,
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[SPEAKER_03]: We, maybe even we've done it, we've been guilty of it a couple of times for selves.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We try not to, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Seth beer was not athletic because Seth beer was a two sport guy who swam.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing against Seth beer, but if you saw Seth beer, first round pick years ago, run to first base.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You did not go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The athleticism is just leaking out, you know, with every step.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Brody Bumilla, when we say like, so we've had guys in the past, we're like, he's a two sport guy, he's a basketball player, that means he's athletic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, you can be the big donkey who's taller than everyone and sets up under the basket and is good defensively and can rebound and do all that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you don't, that does not mean that you're an elite athlete that you're a elite mover.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's not Brody Bimilla.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying that it is the best high school competition basketball wise that you're going to find anywhere in the country or that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that they're probably are some places where you probably can find a little bit, you know, higher level.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But if you watch him play basketball, this is a legitimate athlete.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is someone who is not just tall but has athleticism to go with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But what you just said, the thing that is going to be fascinating about him is,
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[SPEAKER_03]: you have an injury history in the past, which, again, the earlier you have an elbow surgery, the worst the outcome is, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: If I know that we can say Tommy John's surgery is something that, it's a bit weird.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He had internal race surgery on this level.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I should say elbow surgery, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It used to be his all-timey Johns, but if you have an internal race, it is because you have an instability in your elbow, look at me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, I do want to say like the actual studies
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[SPEAKER_03]: orthopedist and all that I'm trying to read on Google scholar about this, aren't able to make that distinction yet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I should say, the studies we have on this is that I should say you see how that you could really could say you see a real you see L replacement or repair because there are different ways to do that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but those surgeries because we didn't have internal brace 15 years ago, so you don't have as much data on that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The earlier you have that surgery, the less the outcome.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you have a elbow surgery because of your UCL at 24, your outcome is way better than if you had it at 14.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But that's said.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So there's an injury history here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And as you said, the secondaries, this is kind of like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: the mirror image in some ways of Sephirnandas in that Sephirnandas last year who we were talking about, you know, you were talking about like, I think he's the best guy in the draft, all that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sephranandas, I think I said I'm one of these podcasts, I really believed it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, just treat him like your he is more polished, he is more closer to the big leagues than most of the college pictures from last year's class.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was more physical, he was more developed, he had better secondaries, all of these attributes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we're seeing it now in Proball where it's like you put him
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[SPEAKER_03]: for a high school pitcher in his first year and you're like, this, this is like sending him back to kindergarten.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is like, it's like, wow, you can, you can tie your shoes really well and he's like, yep, I can also do calculus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder, I wonder how often there's just a really strong correlation with any pitcher who has
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[SPEAKER_02]: a plus or better change up at the lower levels, because it really does feel like that pitch, in particular, vexes lower level hitters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But on top of that, there's a hundred miles an hour?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, tough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just like, they have no total assignment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what I'm saying those, but Bumila's the opposite, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like if you, this is where I do think when you just game this through, if you're taking him 15th, let's say, because that's what the range we're hearing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: you're taking him because his fastball is not only elite velocity, but it has a chance to be one of the best fastball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just to lead across the board, spin efficiency, extension, power, everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you are then saying, going back to the discussion we were having earlier, but you're also saying, we believe in our pitching development program that
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[SPEAKER_03]: There are the raw tools are here to teach them to spin multiple breaking balls probably to develop the change up to do like to get from this fast ball to five pitches because that's really we're not talking I know that you could say three but nowadays most that the the trend nowadays is is not that you throw a fast ball one breaking ball to change up the trend is is here's how I get lefties out here's how I get righties out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so he's probably going to need more pitches in that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's where I think that it does become a little bit difficult to say at 15 that you're going to build your draft around the guy and then you're saying, okay, we know that there's a little bit more of an injury risk here because again, if you've had injuries in the past, that is more of an indicator that you have a more larger risk of injuries in the future.
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[SPEAKER_03]: we talked about Kate Horton earlier, but Kate Horton had already had an elbow injury and then was great and he made it to the big leagues for the cops and now he has another elbow injury and he's going to be out for it looks like 16 months.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's so risk you have to bake in with these players with you have an already have injury and then on top of that you are saying that there's a lot that's still has to develop, a lot that has to be developed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That seems like that's going to be tough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I also, on top of everything you just said, I just feel like if you look at the teams picking top 15, who would you pull out as the candidate to take a high risk player like this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking at it and I see the Pirates at 5, they've clearly been risk tolerant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Royals at 6, I could see them going with a riskier play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Braves at 9, because they've shown a willingness to draft high school players early.
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[SPEAKER_02]: After that,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have confidence any of those other organizations would take a super high risk profile like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so like, again, maybe someone does, but like the angels seem there at 12, like they've, they've had the opposite sort of trend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, though we've heard that and tied to some high pitch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And personally, I would love to see it because I do think teams tend to be more risk averse than they should be like I would like to see more teams take a risk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I just look at the teams and it's hard to feel confident in any of them doing it in this range.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you the one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know that we, you and I disagree on this little bit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think you think this is just a little bit of a lazy thing when we hear it, they're sitting at 21.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, well, then we're outside of the top 15.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, but the pod raise at 21.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I, I will say, and yes, that is the team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, if you look at our last mock draft, Brody B. Miller is in the first round.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Take a guess where he's at.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a very obvious reason why every team in industry knows the podries are willing to take shots of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, the podries of the perfect team to take him, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because the AJ Prueller and a three Chris camp, you guys, he's been there a while, you know, doing this for while now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're approaches.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They are not up there to say, like, hey, we're going to hit behind the runner here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're not going to come like other vancing to the runners.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the next guy can do something that you're taking slings.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the thing I'll say about it is, to their credit, their team that I actually say, like if you said, which kind of team should be the ones to draft a Brody Bemela, the Padres are perfect examples.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you asked me that day, it's like, okay, we're just going to sue me, sign, one of the chances that he will make his major league debut as a Padre, my over under is probably under 50% because that's what the Padre's did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you just look at here, here's the, let's go back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just go back and tell you tell me to stop naming players, but these are the Padres first rounders in recent years, cruise schoolcraft, cash may field, Dylan head, Dylan Lesco, Jackson Merrill, Robert Hassel, CJ Broms, Ryan Weathers, McKinsey Gore, like this is the team that would take someone like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But that's one, but that almost kind of undersuls that a little bit too, because like, so like if we say, hey, okay, what about, you know, you mentioned
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, Jackson Merrill was a, hey, that was a good swing, but James Wood got more money than Jackson Merrill in their draft that year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That wasn't even bigger swing because James Wood was, that was a player who, as great as he's turned out, that was considered a risky pick at the time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, now, you know, I think like if you, well, you've done the redress like James would goes a lot earlier than pick 62, even if you take away the fact that he made them even if you went ordered it by bonus he would go way higher than the bonus he got.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think one of the, one of the names here that intrigues me with the Padres in particular is Dylan Lescoe because of 15, this is like middle of the first round draft capital, you're taking an injured high school pitcher or someone who has an injury, I mean, at the time of the draft.
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[SPEAKER_02]: one of the biggest, I'd say the biggest risk factor here is just the fact that he's had the injury already in high school.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the similarity and the fact that with this current regime, the podgers have been willing to take that risk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, unlike any other team here, that feels realistic for them at 21, not inside the top 15.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll believe it when I see it, but at this stage, it does feel like
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is more likely for him to go lower and get paid later than it is for him to just be shot up here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we also want to talk about a couple of bats that are rising up before we wrap this up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll do this right after another break.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Carlos, on the hitting side, again, we've got a perfect symmetry here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to talk about one college bat that's rising and one high school bat that's rising.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would say that both of these players are fascinating in very different ways, but so Cole ProSec, I would say, has probably made one of the biggest jumps in this ranking update.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why is we'll start with him?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What jumped out?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What are we hearing about Cole ProSec that made him leap up this list?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Cole Prosec, it sounds like he might just be one of the best hitters in his region of the country, high school college, whatever position you want to throw out there to compare him to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He has, I mean, prior to this spring, he's had a really good track record as a high school hitter as an amateur as an underclassman in the 2025 circuit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was always a really good hitter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: this spring he's been monstrous I mean he's hitting well over 500 he has 17 or 18 home runs I think it was through 35 games he had 17 home runs and 16 doubles and he is the sort of prospect who I'm not necessarily sure you're going to at least feel confident that he's going to stick a shortstop you're not confident that there is like this super predictable frame like he's fairly filled out now
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that you really need to project on him, but I also don't know that you can project too much on him physically, but it's the strategy of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, you're drafting a bat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's this really impressive rhythm in the box.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Feel for the barrel strong, and I do think there's just going to be a lot of confidence with this track record as a hitter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: the most interesting part about his profile.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I will say, like we're talking about him as a riser, I wrote about him as a potential darker dark horse first round candidate earlier this week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is all because of the bat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If someone thinks truly he is the best hitter in the area, one of the best hitters in the class, kind of without question about where he's going to play defensively, that would warrant a first round hitter hitters hit, hitters are what you want to take.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But what's fascinating here is he's caught a few winnings this spring.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've heard that like there's some thought that he might want to catch, which maybe is like the key to unlocking all of this, but most people don't think he's a short stop, but I've talked to some scouts who've seen him a decent bit behind the play and think that like he has all the tools you'd want to see behind the dish to send him out of catcher and develop in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got a strong throwing arm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you can get this sort of hit power combination for someone who you're going to
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[SPEAKER_02]: All of the sudden the profile may be takes on more ceiling than you would have expected without that catcher conversion element and I could easily see a team jumping on him in the 20 to 30 pick range if they really feel like, hey, this bad is not going to last a while if we want him we got to take him now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love that idea from a standpoint of like, okay, we just said you're not projecting with the shortstop, but the same
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[SPEAKER_03]: aspects of his game that you're like probably not a short stop in the long run.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's going to be that doesn't mean you couldn't send him out of a short stop, but it's going to be pretty quickly that you say he's just not as good a short stop as that's the other guy that's on this team and he's not going to be our big league short stop so we need to move him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the same attributes if you put him behind the plate,
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[SPEAKER_03]: The concerns you have kind of go away, and the same attributes that make him a plausible syndrome out as a short stop, but not going to stick there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If he has the desire and the willingness to put in the work, could make him a really athletic, you know, again, we see a lot of former middle infielders who become catchers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you always have that possibility.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you really believe in the bat, it's going to limit the bat a little bit and they're really going, but if you believe in the bat, you're like, look,
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[SPEAKER_03]: If this doesn't work, we can always put them back a second.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I do think there is just something to the elite high school hitters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you think someone is a elite high school hitter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even when the positional questions you take them, and some of the success stories of that I would say are guys like Tyler Sotterstrom.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was really hoping that he could catch didn't work out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's moved to a corner, still a productive.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Still fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ralph H. Velasquez, high school catcher, split opinions on whether or not he could stick there very quickly on his pro career, moved to first base, still a great prospect.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It sounds like he's having a really strong year once again this year, so I think ultimately,
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you think that the hit and power combo is loud enough, your position is just kind of hitter, and you'll figure out a spot to put these guys, and I do think that his hitting ability just might be that good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and it's interesting too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Our next, like the college guy, the college casher we want to talk about, maybe have some similar questions here in terms of, like, is he going to play the position?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And how does that impact your profile?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know we personally might have very different opinions on this player, so it'll be fun to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: an exceptional season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Georgia catcher is having a season that if you was, you know, he's not having Charlie Condon season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's be clear there, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Charlie Condon season at Georgia was
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's really one of those where you have to check the numbers a couple of times to be like, there's something the S okay they finally fixed it work for the longest time the SEC official site didn't know how to calculate on base percentage and it was just giving everyone is in conference play is at one that you know like their on base percentage was one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: that was like when Charlie Condon's you looked at it and it's like oh wait they just calculated it's wrong no that's actually right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Daniel Jackson not having that season but Daniel Jackson he's a 2020 catcher he's already our 2020 season it's April and
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[SPEAKER_03]: and he's hitting, by the way, like we talked about conference play in the importance of conference play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's fifth in the SEC.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He has a 371 batting average in conference play.
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[SPEAKER_03]: 37144163 with seven homers and nine steals in conference play in addition to even better numbers out of conference.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you do have this production.
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[SPEAKER_03]: By the way, we'll note though.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's not the most
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[SPEAKER_03]: draftable catcher in the SEC in conference play.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's Carson Tint.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But so you have a lot there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: OK, and I do think like there's athleticism here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a fallback like you again to go back to what we're catching, evaluating, catching defense is brutally hard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I see attributes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, I am not professing that I'm like some, but I do love to watch a lot of catching.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I will say, and I've watched his catching.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, he has, I don't think it's very important how well you frame in college.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That is something that I 100% believe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you said, you give me that, if you gave a protein like guy who can block,
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[SPEAKER_03]: who can throw, who has a soft left hand, you know, receives well and has no idea how to frame.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like doing everything the opposite, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like he's yanking creatures out of the zone.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Give that to a protein, they'll get him presenting them all reasonably well by the time he gets to the majors.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're really good at that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I see some attributes where he's doing a good job of like, you have to have that hand though to where you're comfortable, like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: on a movement where you're not just
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[SPEAKER_03]: sticking it out there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have to have a little bit of comfort in your left hand to do those kind of things you see that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So there's some attributes here, but I will also say there's also some swing and miss and I think your skepticism a lot of it comes from it's almost kind of a credit to the Georgia program in that Georgia has had a lot of their their their home park is a good
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[SPEAKER_03]: kind of have great seasons.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And in some cases, just like that's the last time you hear about them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what's your skepticism?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And again, not that you're like, oh, this guy's terrible, but isn't about him that makes you a little bit worried that this may not be that easy to carry over the book.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think I think there's probably not a player
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[SPEAKER_02]: in our top 100 where we've had as divisive feedback on defensive profile in particular.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of drawing and maybe it makes sense that it's an amateur catcher who gets this sort of feedback because like you said, it's brutally hard to evaluate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Scouts will admit that oftentimes it almost feels like they don't know what they're really looking for or it's just so hard to know who's going to make the positive changes you need to improve all that it makes it just,
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[SPEAKER_02]: as much of a mystery as anything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we've just, I've talked to Scouts who think that he can do everything you want to see, like you were saying from a catcher at the next level, they point to the athleticism that he has, the arm strength that he has.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I've talked to Scouts who just think that he is not going to be able to receive at the level that you need to for a pro catcher, just have real questions about how his hands are going to work, his blocking ability, his framing ability,
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[SPEAKER_02]: about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you think that he's not a catcher in your report, you're not viewing him as a catcher moving forward, that's going to change how you view him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You also talk about the swing and miss questions that he has.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll say with Daniel Jackson, his offensive track record does
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was not nearly this caliber of hitter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The strikeout rate was a pretty significant concern.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He struck out 29.7% of the time with Georgia in 2025.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think for all of his production in conference play this year, the number that I look at, it does worry me a little bit, is the strikeout rate is pushing closer to that 29% mark that he had a year ago overall.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now I will say to his credit,
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[SPEAKER_02]: He has improved the strikeout rating conference here over year in 25.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was north of 30 percent.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's about 10 percentage points lower at this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there are some clear improvements he's made.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But my concerns are catcher profile and ultimately, like, what is the caliber of the pure hit tool?
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[SPEAKER_02]: At the end of the day, though, I think this is a college catcher is doing it in a power conference as the athleticism and the speed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's kind of kind of gloss over a lot of these question marks I have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and it is kind of jarring just to see a college catcher with this sort of power who is also a career 37 for 39 runner on the basis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's just shocking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The, the athleticism we're getting from these Georgia collegiate catchers is pretty, pretty silly this year between Dana Jackson and Von Lackey.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, and I don't disagree with you on some of these things, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I do think blocking is the biggest question with him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He does have seven passballs this year, last I checked, at the same time, the good news bad news with him, as a catcher is he's catching, like the good news is is you are getting to see him catch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: quality stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Georgia is not a team lacking in pictures with stuff and velocity in all that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They might be a team lacking demand.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And some of these like when you I think he has 29 wild pitches with him on the plate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of those are not pitches where you're like, what do you do in man, a lot of those are like, that ball went 44 feet and I'm sorry, but yeah, you're like, they're just difficult, right, like you have guys on that stuff like the Volts goes in all of the world where.
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[SPEAKER_03]: you're not, it's not a comfortable guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, if you're throwing quality stuff that hits the plate or is you're setting up, you're thinking it's gonna be here and it's three feet to the right of that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Those are difficult.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I, but I also completely get where like, you could watch him and be like, I saw him go to the backstop four times in that game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so, that's going to be a game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll be start about it, catching, evaluating, catching.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just pulled it up because I was curious as we were talking about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But Georgia has the fourth highest walk rate of any team in the SEC with a collective 11.9% walk rate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I wanted to make sure it wasn't just like a few names standing out, but actually they're pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, they're, they're toes the bottom of the conference release in terms of strikes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And like, let me, if I look at this on, uh, on fielding, I think that what I'll find is is all so good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think, guys, you're looking that up, like, we, we have heard enough teams and enough scouts who buy into this profile, buy into the things he does well, that he's a legitimate first round candidate, that doesn't feel like he's going to be a guy who's going top 15, maybe top 20.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But after the elite college editors are off the board, teams are going to be looking around for the next up, guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you do find yourself falling on the positive sides of all of this,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dan or Jackson profile.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can see a case for him to be in that range even if I'm personally not the the biggest fan of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we've heard that he's a dark horse first round player for that reason.
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[SPEAKER_03]: By the way, when we say that Georgia has 36 wild pitches.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you're wondering why LSU has had real issues this year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: LSU can tuck you second of the league with 49 while pitches LSU has 74.
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[SPEAKER_03]: LSU is like, that's where you really don't like as a catcher you're like, what am I trying, you know, what am I supposed to do here?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Never imagine us see an LSU team with a five.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's been a crazy year for them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that is the, that is our, check out, obviously.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you enjoyed this,
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[SPEAKER_03]: We've got so much for you to read over at Baseball America right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Carlos had a piece on the risers and followers, the guys who moved up, the guys who moved out in more detail that we were able to cover and a lot more players that we were able to cover on this podcast and video.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He also has a piece on like he mentioned, Daniel, you know, like Cole Pro seconds in the players who could be dark horses to be in the first round.
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[SPEAKER_03]: 10 of those.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Check that out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, by the way, there are scouting reports on the Tom 400 draft prospects.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think if you enjoyed this, you'll enjoy that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the other part to just wrap this up to kind of put a bow on it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That is the, like, we're just lucky to have these jobs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the other part that we just said, like fatigue and all that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I got to get really
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think we said on one of these shows recently, or if not, it was in a conversation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, there's a clear difference between when you're writing up guys and the top 100 and the top 200 and the top 300, the top 300 are guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're still in that line of, this is why this guy is really interesting and getting it drafted.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And by the time you get to like 275, there's like, okay, he may lack a little bit of this tool or he's got this flaw, he has to fix or whatever, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: you get into the 300's.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You get close to 400 on this list and I would describe the report kind of flips to this is why this player will be drafted.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But here are all these potential issues, but even at that range.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There are still players that you start watching, you start diving in on the player and you're like, but this player's really good at this thing, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they're all over the board.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I wrote up AMP Phillips.
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[SPEAKER_03]: AMP Phillips is a, like, I love AMP Phillips.
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[SPEAKER_03]: South Carolina is a Friday starter who,
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[SPEAKER_03]: is an example of how the transfer portal can be really good for players.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know a lot of people like to decry it, but one thing that is true about it is, if you're a undersized player who's going to just have to claw your way into the role that you want by performing, you have guys like, you can't fill up to starts at one school, then he transfers to U.S. Spartanburg, then he dominates against Clemson, and then he's the South Carolina.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can
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[SPEAKER_03]: Either sit on the bench for a year or pitch a few times as a reliever or you could start for a full year to smart program Then continue to start at another program, so so you have a guy like amp Philips who's this three pit But really polished pitcher just lacks physical projection lacks elite stuff all that and then you'll have players by him where it's like
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[SPEAKER_03]: His last ERA under six was as a high school junior, but he also has two pitches that are absurd on the days where he's landing them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you're like, those guys rightfully line up side by side.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, again, it never gets boring.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It never gets to be drudgery.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Even if the number of players we have to write up, but it's fun doing this, isn't it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: 100% yeah the day it becomes not fun is the day I'll have to be like hey someone else probably should have this job and not me because at the end of the day we get to watch a lot of really talented baseball players talk about them with scouts and watch them so it's it's a blast and hopefully you guys enjoy the coverage of this draft as much as we enjoy trying to cover it accurately and as much depth as we can so thank you guys for allowing us to do that by supporting beer
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for subscribing and supporting what we do because it is great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, the other things great about this is every year of the challenge changes, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It never gets repetitive because every year you may be trying to say, well, who's this guy remind me about from the past?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but every player process is similar, but the details are all different.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that is the Baseball America draft podcast for this week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm JJ Cooper.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's Carlos Coloso.
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