00:04.47
Vance 😈
Welcome back to Right Quick.

00:06.90
Nandi K
A bite-sized pop culture conversation with your favorite queer unfriendly black hotties.

00:12.22
Vance 😈
And we're unfriendly today because y'all niggas are still illiterate. I'm Vance Go.

00:18.17
Nandi K
And I'm 90K. I think it's getting, the pressure is getting worse.

00:21.46
Vance 😈
but

00:23.32
Nandi K
I think they're getting dumber, getting stupider.

00:25.99
Vance 😈
Who? yeah I mean, I think every day if you open your eyes and look at the news or whatever, it's just like, yeah, we ain't got it. like Not to say we deserve where we're at, but like I see how we got here.

00:39.00
Nandi K
Oh, it's a clear, it's, yeah. the The path is clear. ah The children aren't reading, but we are, or some of us are.

00:48.92
Vance 😈
Shut the fuck up. Yes. I said, oops, spoilers.

00:54.87
Aaron Rand Freeman
yeah

00:57.21
Vance 😈
so

00:57.40
Nandi K
But is you y'all know we are a pro-literacy podcast.

01:00.54
Vance 😈
Yes.

01:00.80
Nandi K
So today we're yet again talking to you about reading. We implore you, people, pick up a book. Please.

01:10.57
Vance 😈
Read, read. Yeah, like read the newspaper.

01:12.73
Nandi K
Read, nigga, read.

01:13.55
Vance 😈
Read read something. Read read flashcards. i don't know. Just read.

01:18.76
Nandi K
An article.

01:18.78
Vance 😈
And understand what you're reading. Just do some work. i don't know. Get a tutor.

01:23.03
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah.

01:24.02
Vance 😈
It's not too late to get a tutor. Like, I know that sounds embarrassing, but like, get a tutor.

01:27.58
Nandi K
talk about it. There's a lot of online learning, I'm sure, that can help you learn how to read for free.

01:35.74
Vance 😈
ah There's a lot of like media literacy folks on like ah TikTok and YouTube that could kind of just help you understand things that you're seeing when it's pictures and words and sounds that you could kind of piece it together because y'all be struggling there too.

01:44.92
Nandi K
yeah

01:51.00
Nandi K
You know, but I would say because I just finished kind of my first piece of literary criticism, which I told you about this on Morrison, was also kind of like a how-to read Toni Morrison.

02:03.48
Vance 😈
Oh, yes.

02:06.82
Nandi K
And I kind of, some things are not clear. And i feel like after I read that book and now I'm reading Sula,

02:20.44
Nandi K
which is one of the first books they cover, ah first of Toni Morrison's novels that they cover in the book. I'm like, wow, i never I've never read this before, but I also feel like I wouldn't have been able to understand it without this other book.

02:40.39
Vance 😈
That's I think that's not good on Tony Morrison's part because why?

02:44.79
Nandi K
No, I think it's actually really cool because she is a very complex writer.

02:45.91
Vance 😈
o Okay, well. Lever.

02:53.08
Vance 😈
hmm.

02:53.15
Nandi K
Toni Morrison is not here to be an easy read and she is not trying to be an easy read. Remember that quote where Oprah's like, I had to read Beloved multiple times to get it. And she said that, my dear, is called reading.

03:09.72
Nandi K
which I live for that because it's true.

03:11.20
Vance 😈
Shady.

03:12.75
Aaron Rand Freeman
Thank you.

03:13.01
Nandi K
Sometimes you do have to read stuff multiple times to really understand. And in this book, what I really liked learning about Toni Morrison, which was something I would never be able to deduce on my own because I'm not a writer in this way.

03:28.65
Nandi K
But the quote they kept saying is in Toni Morrison's writing, the structure is the argument. And so the structure of her writing itself is the argument that she is making somebody has to tell me that i'm not that embedded in reading to be able to get it

03:45.14
Vance 😈
Yeah.

03:49.59
Vance 😈
I think you, yeah, unfortunately, I feel like that's like a a college, like, you know, college course, like you're well into your, your, you know, third year type shit. Cause yeah, I think most people don't think about structure as even anything.

03:59.58
Nandi K
yeah mm-hmm

04:03.57
Vance 😈
Right. I think they just read the thing. And then like, like even an unreliable narrator, like even if like they're lying in the format, like some people are not able to like put that up even.

04:12.50
Nandi K
She uses the unreliable narrator a lot as well.

04:13.12
Vance 😈
So,

04:16.76
Nandi K
But that's a really cool device. But again, like you said... That's not, everybody's not going to get that. Sometimes for me, I know, I know in some ways as a songwriter that structure matters to writing, but the way that structure matters in songwriting and the way that structure matters in literature, I think is different. And I don't necessarily have a grasp on the other.

04:47.00
Nandi K
And so I think that, Reading that book really made some stuff clear. and I feel like I'm really understanding it in a new way. Also, I think Toni Morrison is meant to be read physically because I started the audio book.

05:04.76
Nandi K
And I said, I feel like I need the physical book too. And I'm flying through the physical book.

05:12.37
Vance 😈
Nice.

05:13.14
Nandi K
But I haven't really picked up the other one.

05:13.53
Vance 😈
ah What is... I

05:18.04
Nandi K
Again, the audiobook.

05:18.36
Vance 😈
i was go i was gonna ask, what is Suya about?

05:22.42
Nandi K
So Sula, let me see if I have a little description on my reading list.

05:24.42
Vance 😈
Sula, sorry.

05:31.00
Nandi K
Okay. Okay.

05:35.34
Nandi K
Sula and Nell are born in the bottom, a small town at the top of a hill. Sula is wild and daring. She does what she wants. While Nell is well-mannered, a mama's girl with a questioning heart.

05:48.95
Nandi K
Growing up, they forge a bond stronger than anything, stronger even than the dark secret they have to bear. Strong enough, it seems, to last a lifetime. Until decades later, as the girls became become women, Sula's anarchy leads to a betrayal that may be beyond forgiveness.

06:06.75
Nandi K
So it's a story about friendship and betrayal.

06:08.85
Vance 😈
Nice. Nice.

06:10.84
Nandi K
Which, we love friendship.

06:13.08
Vance 😈
Yeah, sometimes pat betrayal.

06:18.01
Nandi K
Sometimes.

06:18.04
Vance 😈
oh ah Yeah, I mean, it depends on the reason, I guess.

06:19.42
Nandi K
Yeah.

06:21.32
Vance 😈
Yeah.

06:21.91
Nandi K
Yeah, how's your reading going? Hmm.

06:24.62
Vance 😈
It's not going well. So I I feel like this this first quarter, I'll just speak because we're closing on it.

06:32.31
Nandi K
Yeah.

06:32.70
Vance 😈
Right. But yeah, this first quarter has been a little chaotic for me, like personally.

06:33.27
Nandi K
Yeah. Mm-hmm.

06:36.34
Vance 😈
So unfortunately, I think when when like things aren't going well, like some other things go to the wayside.

06:36.94
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

06:42.74
Vance 😈
So reading has been one. Yeah. I also had to leave for like a month of training and I was definitely not doing that there.

06:48.35
Nandi K
Yep.

06:49.73
Vance 😈
Right. So anyway, all that to say, I'm reading a bunch of stuff, but I'm, I've been reading like short stories. Um, I've been trying to read, I've been trying to get back into practice or reading on the train when I'm going, on the Metro, when I'm headed to work and back.

07:01.05
Nandi K
Yeah.

07:03.65
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

07:04.47
Vance 😈
Um, sometimes it's just when I'm on the Metro, that's my only time I feel like I can breathe. Um, or my head is on a swivel cause

07:09.99
Nandi K
Mm-hmm. Well... Mm-hmm.

07:14.70
Vance 😈
niggas is wilding on the train and you know, you just got to make sure you're alert.

07:16.28
Nandi K
well

07:18.78
Vance 😈
So you could, uh, either leave the train or fight or whatever you got to do. So, uh, so yeah, sometimes the train is not the best place to do that. But anyway, I've been, I just moved and I like, we have like a nice table outside.

07:31.27
Vance 😈
So I've been, um, trying to go to the kitchen table. And I have like this like time, this sandal, 15 minutes and just read.

07:37.55
Nandi K
Oh yeah, cute.

07:39.10
Vance 😈
But yeah, so I got, I'm reading ah the people that could fly. You know that one.

07:45.14
Nandi K
I have that.

07:46.17
Vance 😈
um

07:46.30
Nandi K
I actually just bought that.

07:48.25
Vance 😈
Oh, I love that.

07:48.63
Nandi K
ah just bought a copy of that.

07:49.17
Vance 😈
We've talked about it.

07:50.58
Nandi K
ah Yeah, because for another project that is going, there's a lot of folklore stuff.

07:57.18
Vance 😈
Yep.

07:57.56
Nandi K
Like, a lot of the characters that are in the original work have characters whose characters are implied because of folklore so like a rabbit or a fox or you know that kind of stuff like they have implied lore so I bought it because I was like let me find some like African-American folklore because I also grew up with a lot of it on the shelf you know we had a bunch of books and I was like oh let me get this mm-hmm

08:09.51
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm. Yeah, real rabbit, yeah.

08:22.33
Vance 😈
Right.

08:26.20
Vance 😈
Yeah, no, this one is nice because it's short. So if you don't have the bandwidth for something long, you just read a short story. um It's also African-American folklore, um as we've talked about.

08:34.62
Nandi K
yeah

08:35.64
Vance 😈
um I didn't know about Brad Rabbit like growing up. like i know you I know your mama put you on, but I learned about this nigga here.

08:40.05
Nandi K
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

08:44.10
Vance 😈
I'm like, oh, he's fun. He's a trickster.

08:45.53
Nandi K
Yeah.

08:46.30
Vance 😈
ah Yeah.

08:46.57
Nandi K
He's a trickster.

08:47.02
Vance 😈
Same.

08:47.29
Nandi K
Yeah. No, I love all the trickster spirits. I resonate very deeply with, like, Abra Rabbit and Anansi the Spider.

08:52.62
Vance 😈
Same. i

08:54.93
Nandi K
Those kind of, like, cunning, smart, tricksy characters.

08:59.74
Vance 😈
there they're

09:01.04
Nandi K
Yeah.

09:01.98
Vance 😈
they're not good or bad. you know like ways, they're bad. Some people would say they're bad, but like they're not evil.

09:05.82
Nandi K
Yeah.

09:07.95
Vance 😈
just kind of mischievous.

09:08.02
Nandi K
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

09:10.07
Vance 😈
Yeah, Far Sector, which is... um a Green Lantern book about a black female Green Lantern She's off in wild Like far far far out She ain't got the support Her name is Sojourner forgot her last name But anyway first name is Sojourner that's cool They call it Jo But anyway that one's good um Spoken Soul I just picked that one back up It's about like A-A-V-E

09:14.41
Nandi K
Oh. Oh.

09:21.29
Nandi K
Ooh.

09:26.35
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

09:32.92
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

09:35.78
Nandi K
Oh.

09:36.02
Vance 😈
It's by John Russell Rickford and Russell John Rickford. I'm sure they're cousins or something. um That one is has been really affirming because it's about a a V essentially.

09:47.82
Vance 😈
And um they give you.

09:48.35
Nandi K
Ebonics, we love it.

09:50.38
Vance 😈
Yeah. So they actually talk about Bonics heavily in there. I didn't know a bonics originated in Oakland.

09:53.69
Nandi K
Well, you Ebonics is the real term. AAVE is like the respectable term.

09:59.68
Vance 😈
is to it's the it's to re rebrand it for sure but but that's what they're getting at is like when they when like the ebonics of it all passed like in the eighty s or early 90s early 90s um the girls were mad like the conservative girls and the liberal girls like the girls were mad and they're being very critical so like the fact that the pendulum has swung the other way

10:04.09
Nandi K
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

10:14.26
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah.

10:19.16
Nandi K
Yeah.

10:22.14
Vance 😈
where, like, the Department of War bitch was talking about some damn ah Fafo in ah in a... ah He said, fuck around and find out in a and addressing generals.

10:29.75
Nandi K
Girl, please. Okay. yeah

10:32.14
Vance 😈
And I'm like, you bitches will use our language and then demonize us and punish us for using our language. So interesting.

10:38.29
Nandi K
And also, mind you, black some Black people will try to argue you down if you call it Ebonics, too.

10:46.36
Vance 😈
They...

10:46.50
Nandi K
It's A-I-V-E. Actually, Ebonics is the black term that the first person who described it, that's what he called it, a black linguist.

10:57.78
Nandi K
That's what he called it, guys. It's okay to call it Ebonics. It's okay.

11:02.55
Vance 😈
But yeah, this this one.

11:02.79
Nandi K
Those sound all really good.

11:05.05
Vance 😈
Yeah, so I mean, and then Teared, what this is this called? Razorblade Tears. That's another one about these.

11:10.92
Nandi K
I've just read that.

11:11.47
Vance 😈
You know her?

11:12.15
Nandi K
I just read that.

11:12.25
Vance 😈
Oh, you finished it. Okay.

11:13.67
Nandi K
I just read that like two weeks ago.

11:13.91
Vance 😈
Nice. you

11:16.51
Nandi K
yo It's so good.

11:16.76
Vance 😈
Oh, bitch. I didn't know.

11:19.43
Nandi K
How far are you?

11:20.73
Vance 😈
um I'm like in the middle. Like, they're cutting up right now. Like, ah they just...

11:23.64
Nandi K
Baby, I boo-hoo cried. Baby, can't tell you how much I cried.

11:26.96
Vance 😈
Okay. Okay.

11:28.80
Nandi K
That tore me up because like the the parents not being on good terms with their kids because they gay and then their kids passing away before they even get an opportunity to be on good terms.

11:30.39
Vance 😈
okay

11:34.55
Vance 😈
Yup.

11:38.35
Vance 😈
Yup.

11:40.76
Vance 😈
And and not they have nowhere way to put it except externally. Yeah.

11:45.05
Nandi K
Oh, baby. that's like I'm an S.A. Cosby stan now. I only have one more book of his to finish. um And then I'll have read all of it and I'm just waiting for it at the library.

11:57.66
Nandi K
Stan, love an action novel.

11:58.67
Vance 😈
OK.

12:00.98
Vance 😈
Yeah, yeah, it's, so yeah, it is.

12:01.34
Nandi K
It's like an action novel.

12:03.82
Vance 😈
Like, and I didn't know that, right? I thought i thought it was a gay book, and then and then these niggas started beating people up, and yeah, it's a beat-em-up.

12:09.72
Nandi K
No, no, no, no. It's definitely... Yeah, no, all the book all his books are beat-em-ups.

12:14.12
Vance 😈
It's a beat-em-up, like, okay, I didn't know that, but I'm glad.

12:17.16
Aaron Rand Freeman
you

12:17.59
Nandi K
Yeah, yeah, yeah. they're all like They're all like action, and I really like that, except well-written. Like, no action movies are this well-written. So I've been really enjoying, um really enjoying his books.

12:26.39
Vance 😈
um Right, right.

12:31.93
Nandi K
Yeah, S.A. Cosby is like, that's i almost wasn't going to read it because I was like, I don't want to know if I want to read no man.

12:38.97
Vance 😈
Right, right.

12:39.58
Nandi K
But then I got one, and I said, okay, fine.

12:40.21
Vance 😈
Nope.

12:42.78
Vance 😈
Yeah, it's fun. um And then I've been reading a book, Slow Burn on it. It's called Die, D-I-E. um It's dice.

12:49.51
Nandi K
Oh,

12:50.73
Vance 😈
So like the plural of dice. um

12:52.73
Nandi K
okay.

12:53.50
Vance 😈
Main characters get sucked into like a game of, not game of dragons, Dungeons are Dragons world. um

12:59.84
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

13:00.76
Vance 😈
A bunch of years pass.

13:01.02
Nandi K
Oh.

13:01.80
Vance 😈
They all come back. ah One of them is missing and one of them is missing an arm. And then they go about their lives and then they get the dice in the mail. There's bloody of the the missing guy.

13:12.44
Vance 😈
they come meet to talk about how to dispose of the dice and then they get sucked back into the game and they're like, not a kid, you know? And, uh, yes, yes, yes, yes.

13:20.38
Nandi K
So it's like Jumanji Dungeons and Dragons. Very interesting.

13:24.30
Vance 😈
And you would love it. Um, yeah, you would love it. One of the, one of the characters is, um, it's not black.

13:29.30
Nandi K
Is it black? I would not love it.

13:32.30
Vance 😈
It's, uh, it's, uh, you're in.

13:33.21
Nandi K
i only play I've only played D&D with niggas, so my experience is like very niggerish, and I don't like non-niggers.

13:36.92
Vance 😈
Yeah.

13:42.33
Nandi K
It spoiled me in a lot of ways.

13:44.70
Vance 😈
That's fair. I mean, i i like...

13:45.34
Nandi K
Yeah.

13:47.58
Vance 😈
It's Kieran Gillen. He writes a lot of X-Men, so I'm like i'm like ah a stand-up.

13:51.27
Nandi K
Mm, mm-hmm.

13:52.09
Vance 😈
But, um yeah, no, the characters are just really interesting.

13:52.15
Nandi K
Oh!

13:55.33
Vance 😈
They're very powerful, but, like, the powers are like they have a bad side. Like, there's a grief night. who he gets powers from being sad. And when this nigga was a teenager, he was depressed.

14:05.48
Vance 😈
So he was like OP over there. and then he comes back and he's an adult.

14:07.80
Nandi K
oh

14:10.12
Vance 😈
And he's like one of them like toxic, positive niggas. So then when they go back, he's like, I do not want to do this. And they're like, yo, we know that when you get sad, we can do the thing. So anyway, people are saying hateful stuff to this man to trigger him so he can be strong.

14:24.50
Vance 😈
And this was fucked up. Like, and there's a bunch of that. But anyway.

14:27.22
Nandi K
This is what I'm saying.

14:27.58
Vance 😈
it's good

14:28.36
Nandi K
Niggas would never. Niggas would just lock in This is what I'm saying. Niggas wouldn't have to be told to lock in We're here, nigga. There's nothing you can do. You gonna fight or and die, nigga.

14:41.75
Vance 😈
Yeah, they'd be like, your wife left you because you're a failure. Then he'd get powerful and start messing shit up. Yeah, like, it's...

14:47.55
Nandi K
Oh my god. Jesus.

14:48.76
Vance 😈
and and it's you Anyway, it's good. I need to hurry up and finish I'm, like, halfway through. It's 20 issues because 20-sided dice.

14:54.62
Nandi K
hey Yeah.

14:57.12
Vance 😈
But, yeah, it's...

14:57.46
Nandi K
Wow.

14:58.08
Vance 😈
ah I need to finish that one. But, anyway, I guess I am reading stuff. I'm just not ah powering through like I normally do.

15:02.04
Nandi K
Yeah.

15:04.73
Nandi K
And it seems like you're reading mostly physical books. You know that that's not what I'm doing, which is enabling me to... I am reading some physical books. I normally have one physical book going at the same time I have whatever audiobook.

15:23.90
Nandi K
And normally... I have one audio book and one physical book. But sometimes with the library, you'd be waiting on books and then they come up immediately. So then you're reading three books at the same time.

15:41.94
Nandi K
That's very stressful. That was actually the case for me until today. um where I just finished this book called These Heathens.

15:52.40
Nandi K
It's like a historical fiction. It's very good and gay with lesbians. So I really appreciated that.

15:58.01
Vance 😈
Nice Nice Nice

15:59.90
Nandi K
um And then I'm reading Sula, the audio book, which is read by Toni Morrison, which is why I like Toni Morrison audio books and the physical book of Sula.

16:13.13
Nandi K
I'm reading a lot. What is like influencing what you reach for right now? I guess right now you're kind of talking about your capacity and bandwidth for you only have like a little bit of time.

16:24.34
Vance 😈
Yeah

16:25.54
Nandi K
So.

16:26.46
Vance 😈
Right. So that's why I'm reading quick stuff. So like even far sector, it's a, it's a um trade copyback. So it's like issues.

16:32.52
Nandi K
hmm. Nice.

16:33.22
Vance 😈
So I could just read the issue and be done.

16:35.03
Nandi K
Nice.

16:35.64
Vance 😈
And then same thing with die. You just read an issue or half the issue. People who could fly, read a short story. Yeah. So short stuff that I could kind of just like do in one sitting.

16:46.04
Vance 😈
And then I'm listening to razor blade, even though i have the physical. So like, if I'm like, yeah,

16:50.78
Nandi K
The audio book person, the narrator that he chooses, Adam Lazar White is so good.

16:52.77
Aaron Rand Freeman
you

16:57.83
Nandi K
He does the same guy for all his audio books.

17:00.73
Vance 😈
Nice. Look, come on bag. Um, yeah, no, I, I, I like to listen to that one when I'm like cleaning or showering or something like that, just kind in the background.

17:03.01
Nandi K
Isn't it great? Yeah.

17:10.53
Vance 😈
But, um, but yeah, so really quick stuff. I don't know. I'm we'll see. I think I need to finish some to kind of feel the the sense of like, Oh, I completed the thing, but yeah, I just got a bunch up in the air.

17:17.56
Nandi K
Yeah, real.

17:24.72
Vance 😈
yeaha Even the one you gave me the, um,

17:29.21
Vance 😈
the The which one? You know what I'm talking about.

17:33.02
Nandi K
The Witch.

17:33.43
Vance 😈
The hoodoo in America. the um

17:35.51
Nandi K
Oh, The Conjuring of America.

17:36.85
Vance 😈
Yes, bitch. um That one's really good. um Yeah, I need to finish that one because, yeah, that's the speed.

17:40.66
Nandi K
So good. Oh, I love that book.

17:41.92
Aaron Rand Freeman
you

17:44.25
Nandi K
Yeah. That book, I think... So I've been kind of just reaching for negatry of all kinds.

17:51.13
Vance 😈
Yes.

17:52.58
Nandi K
um I've basically only been reading Black authors. And I think this year, i've actually I haven't read a single Black author. I've read 34 books.

18:06.11
Nandi K
um And...

18:06.39
Vance 😈
Oh.

18:09.49
Nandi K
Huh?

18:10.45
Vance 😈
Huh?

18:11.16
Nandi K
I've read 34 books this year.

18:11.33
Vance 😈
Excuse me.

18:13.80
Nandi K
As of today, I finished my 34th book. um

18:19.35
Vance 😈
Too much.

18:20.31
Nandi K
Yeah, please don't pull out the amulet.

18:22.03
Vance 😈
I'm calling. I'm calling. Yeah, I'm like, bitch, I'm calling the time log people.

18:25.21
Nandi K
Please, know no, no, know no, no.

18:25.91
Vance 😈
much. hmm. too much

18:32.13
Nandi K
it's cause i'm read It's only because I'm reading like multiple books at the same time. That's the only reason I've really been able to. Is that more books than I read all year, last year?

18:44.38
Nandi K
Who could say? Who could even say at this point?

18:46.26
Vance 😈
Already, yes.

18:48.26
Nandi K
we don't Who would even know that? and Who would be privy to that information? i don't know.

18:54.36
Vance 😈
The podcast. we We talked about it last year.

18:55.51
Nandi K
I don't know. i don't know who would have that information. But yeah, I'm basically only picking up Black authors. So like in this Morrison book that I just read. So I read Conjuring of America.

19:10.61
Nandi K
Then I read Black and Blues. And then, i don't know. i just kind of been letting the library slash people's recommendations kind of like...

19:22.52
Nandi K
lead me and most books lead me to another book like by the time I'm finishing up one book I already know what the next one is and so in on Morrison literally almost every book I've read in the past six months got mentioned as a reference the even the Zora Neale Hurston autobiography which as we know I struggled to finish because it wasn't really about her at all um

19:46.05
Vance 😈
Yeah. Nice.

19:50.49
Nandi K
in some ways. But that was really cool to have to be like, I did read all that. So this is actually very helpful. And then that book helped me kind of be like, okay, yeah, Toni Morrison is next.

20:04.48
Nandi K
And I'm reading a lot of like, Southern Gothic horror right now, because I'm about to tell a Southern Gothic horror story.

20:06.59
Aaron Rand Freeman
you

20:11.26
Vance 😈
nice

20:11.45
Nandi K
And so I'm trying to fill my brain with lots of references so that when I get behind the mic, I have a lot to pull from.

20:21.57
Vance 😈
Are you making the story up or are you reading something that's written there?

20:23.99
Nandi K
Well, i'm not I'm not the GM, but we're like adapting a play. and so it's like It's an actual play, so like it's going to be an improvised story, but in the world in a world that has stuff going on already.

20:39.60
Nandi K
It's like ah a a battle that is like literally a battle between life and death, but like the extremes of them.

20:39.71
Vance 😈
Okay.

20:49.17
Nandi K
so like Life as in overgrowth of life and death as in

20:54.67
Vance 😈
Decay.

20:55.97
Nandi K
decay, yeah stuff like that. And it's like, there's like a game between them where they're trying to Takeover Worlds. It's also a multiverse story. It's a very cool story, but we're just like adapting it and playing other characters in this world. and so just i'm playing The character that I'm playing has is playing on like a Jezebel trope. She's inspired by like Aretha Franklin and Dorothy Dandridge.

21:22.97
Nandi K
She works at like a house of ill repute. She's like a Fox character. so We're also all like anthropomorphic.

21:29.85
Vance 😈
Nice.

21:30.17
Nandi K
like characters too. So yes, I'm also trying to like fill my brain with a bunch of references. And then I'm also going to be telling like a vampire story, a Southern vampire story later this year too.

21:42.56
Nandi K
So I want to just have a bunch of stuff to pull on.

21:44.69
Vance 😈
Nice. You need to me share the links.

21:49.46
Nandi K
hey Well, I guess we covered what you're currently reading. Did you want to recommend the people the book?

21:59.22
Vance 😈
Um, maybe spoken soul. I think um that one, like, like just in the context of where we're at right now, like, I think it is important for us to be affirmed in our language.

22:09.94
Vance 😈
I know a lot of people that are friends with me and you, they probably already there.

22:14.10
Nandi K
here Sure.

22:15.06
Vance 😈
But for people that are not, I do think that it's important to like just like read like, yeah, like read something that affirms how you speak and like actually like gives you some historical context for how we got where we're at.

22:24.25
Nandi K
yeah

22:27.01
Vance 😈
And also like don't let nobody shame you for the way you speak, especially because there's that like, although it shouldn't have to be a book to validate the way you speak. I think it's important that that someone is like breathing that into you external thing.

22:39.16
Nandi K
Yeah.

22:40.82
Vance 😈
What about you?

22:40.86
Nandi K
Agreed. That's very good. And that's a nonfiction book too, right?

22:44.57
Vance 😈
Yep. And I rarely do nonfiction, but you know, not rarely.

22:47.42
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I've also, I'm kind of on the flip where I've been, you know, I normally only read nonfiction, but that kind of drove me away from reading.

22:55.90
Vance 😈
Yeah.

22:58.39
Nandi K
So I've been reading way more fiction. So my suggestion is going to be Ring Shout by DeGeli Clark. It's a fiction fantasy historical horror about some hoodoo clan hunters.

23:13.91
Nandi K
And they made the Klan-like monsters.

23:14.01
Vance 😈
Oh, yeah.

23:15.95
Nandi K
So it's like Scooby-Doo. If the Scooby-Doo Mystery Machine was like, who do Klan hunters? It is a quick read. The audio book was less than six hours.

23:27.61
Nandi K
Also a great um narrator. I really enjoy that book. I also had to wait forever for it at the library. But then I recently saw in my book cabinet that I had it the whole time.

23:39.77
Vance 😈
Nice.

23:40.89
Nandi K
So I ordered it because people were talking about things that are similar to sinners. So if something like a story like sinners is appealing to you, this is like something that could be from a similar world.

23:53.78
Nandi K
and Yeah, really, really fun. Really good.

23:58.18
Vance 😈
I do have that book in my library. So, cause yeah, you told me

24:00.82
Nandi K
See, this is what I be saying. This happens to me all the time where I'm going to read something and then I'll be like, oh, I already have this. So I've been slowing down on buying books.

24:11.48
Vance 😈
ah Yeah, I mean, I think a side quest for me is just to read the books in my library before I buy new physical books. And that's impossible that's not impossible, but it's, yeah, it's ah it's a tall loader.

24:19.57
Nandi K
That's going to be a struggle for me.

24:24.28
Nandi K
but But right now I do have to stop because actually we are out of space. like right now.

24:30.68
Vance 😈
you have You got a garage, dude.

24:31.10
Nandi K
Because you know I have like a game shelf. Because like I also have I have a bookshelf that is entirely dedicated only to game books. Like

24:43.90
Nandi K
like a massive bookshelf that just has game books and as we know as I have my Kickstarter like phase where I was supporting every Kickstarter some of that shit hasn't even arrived yet that shit just gonna start coming in the mail I'm go be like oh what is this it's gonna be a new a new game book for my game shelf I got an email about a new expansion for a game I just started playing I said oh well you know i'm have to get that

25:10.62
Vance 😈
See, that's why y'all ask me to be in Amulet, because this is not even about reading. And it's just like, it's too much.

25:16.38
Nandi K
I love books. It's not all about reading, but it's mostly about reading.

25:23.84
Vance 😈
Amulet.

25:26.23
Nandi K
Please, no.

25:26.81
Vance 😈
So...

25:32.66
Nandi K
All right, well, I guess we recommend it to the people. Today's episode is once again sponsored by the Gay Agenda and the Literacy Agenda. Denounce your gender and read a book.

25:45.79
Vance 😈
Use your butt.

25:48.02
Nandi K
Use your butt in this economy. Oh my God.

25:50.78
Vance 😈
Use your butt.

25:52.06
Nandi K
Please.

25:53.88
Vance 😈
Big thanks to our producer, Audio Adonis, Aaron Rand Friedman. I have been Vance Go, and you can find me on threads and what's the other one? IG at Sir Lance Thought.

26:05.86
Vance 😈
um Threads is fun. um

26:08.30
Nandi K
Isn't it?

26:09.79
Vance 😈
Are you? You're on threads. Shut up.

26:11.26
Nandi K
Yeah, I'm on there all the time.

26:13.24
Vance 😈
It feels like the black one right now, so that's why I'm into it.

26:15.26
Nandi K
It does. Yeah, I do like that.

26:15.96
Vance 😈
But like, threads is fun.

26:17.58
Nandi K
Yeah, it kind of feels like early days of Black Twitter. Yeah, I'm Nandi K.

26:20.57
Vance 😈
Yes.

26:21.90
Nandi K
You can find me on Instagram, threads, and blue sky at Nandi K-A-Y-Y-Y. We'll see y'all.

26:31.03
Vance 😈
Goodbye.