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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, everybody, JJ Cooper, Josh Norse, Ian Cunderle here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Another baseball America prospect podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So big one today, because if you go over to baseballmeric.com, check it out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have an updated top 100 prospects ranking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And when I say updated, we'll replace graduates in all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we did do an update at the start of the minor league season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I would say this is a much bigger update.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have started to see the graduations.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We saw JJ weatherhole graduate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When we're recording this Kevin McGonagall hasn't graduated, but by the time we're watching this, he may have graduated, we know that Connor Griffin is graduating soon thereafter, and that's really important for this, because we knew as we had our meeting to line up the top 100 that we need to prep for having a new number one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes, maybe we'd say, go check it out over at Baseball America and see who's going to be the new number one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But Ian, I'll kind of start off with you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In this case, I don't feel like that anyone's going to be wondering too hard who's going to be the new number one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did it feel like that Jesus mod a kind of like, entered the question in a way that it's really not as much of a question as maybe it usually would be for a new number one?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that was honestly one of the easiest decisions we had to make.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We kind of telegraphed it in the off season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think, you know, if you look at his schedule talks about how probably the number one prospect in waiting and he's done nothing to dissuade us of that opinion, show so far this season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's gone out in double as and as a 19 year old, he's sitting 282 with a 375 on base and a 464 slug.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He had to court one of the most impressive burrows of the season, reaching I think it was just under triple digits.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just going to interject one thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's 18 still.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He is in his age 19 season, but he will not turn 19 until later this week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So 18 still as we talked about.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so he's 18 still.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And the tools he's showing are just it's just really impressive.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think to me is when I when I look at when I when I go through my process of setting the list, I kind of look at the tears and he's kind of

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[SPEAKER_03]: arms strength, offensive ability, defense.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see if he stays at shorts, but even we he's going to stay on the dirt.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So somewhere in the infield, you know, this is the type of prospect that when you envision a number one overall prospect he checks all those boxes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Josh, you've been seeing Monday for as long as almost anyway.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess been bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're probably saw him before you did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But on staff, you went and saw him in the DSL all star game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You've seen him every year since and

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say that like he's a prospect, there's there are very few prospects over the years, but there are some players who you're trying to be conservative, but you can't help but just keep moving them up and up and up and up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's kind of been on a rocket ship in our rankings basically, since, you know, early in his first pro season, has he not?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, I mean, the DSL was super impressive.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was incredibly easy to put him as the number one overall prospect in that lead two years ago.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He didn't do much in that all-star game when I saw him a sweet O for one.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But we used that video for one so many times.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, we also got other videos.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But we shot him and he came to Zagilong, which RIP Zagilong.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But

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[SPEAKER_04]: and he was impressive there and I was a little surprised when he got promoted at that point just because every time I saw him he was rolling over to second base but the brewers were right and he went on a terror at Wisconsin and he's been you know bonkers at double able oxy which is suddenly which is a typically of pitchers league but it's not a whole heck of a lot he doesn't do right now.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think he's a pretty easy choice for number one but

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think there are other candidates who could emerge later in the season if something should go wrong or one one guy gets really hot like I don't think he's without compare I'll put it that way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So before we get to those other candidates how

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[SPEAKER_02]: The thing I think you mentioned it in, he's 18, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like sometimes now, again, by next week at this time, he'll be 19.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think that sometimes it's,

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[SPEAKER_02]: easy to kind of gloss over like okay you know but look look let's look at the season he's having and all this and again he's been really good he's as we're talking he's 282-375-464 at Beluxi with almost as many walks as strikeouts 13 stolen bases 11 extra base hits as a switch hitter who's shown power from most sides of the play

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's, again, it's a pretty impeccable resume.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I guess the other thing I would ask with that is is like, when you add in the factor that he's 18 soon to be 19, and the other players, in many cases, we are talking about players on the top 100.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You scroll through that top 100.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a whole lot of 21, 22 year olds who are a level or two below him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think it has to, you know, you look at his combination of performance, his track record, throughout the minors, where he's always been one of the youngest players at the level.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know you do that article every year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He is the youngest.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He goes exactly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's always the youngest.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's probably going to be continuing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it just shows, you know, the brewers have a track record of this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They do this with Jackson Churrio.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They push guys aggressively who they think are that good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think, you know, with the way they've handled Mata, what Josh was talking about, you know, he, and, you know,

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[SPEAKER_03]: low way if you look at his stats, they don't really jump off the page until you factor in his age.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then he goes up to high age, just crushes it and since that he's not nothing but hit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, so I think the age is a pretty big factor, but I think it's also just a combination of

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[SPEAKER_03]: Having the tools, the present ability he does already, let alone the projection when you combine that with the ages what really separates things for me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, he's presently performing against much more advanced competition.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The underlying data is very good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And when you add that all together, and then factor it, oh yeah, he's still 18.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's three years, even four years younger than some of the players on this list.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a separator for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, speaking of that, if you do check out over at baseballamerica.com, we also have a four-intriguing data points from April.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the things that stood out in that is, is how young the brewers are overall.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But when you say that, I think that mod A by himself, being in AA helps kind of pull that down just a little bit by himself, because he is that young.

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[SPEAKER_04]: to bring the point home about him being 18.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If he's American, he's in this year's draft, probably, or maybe it would be really fascinating to see how he would compare with Rock Chalowski for the race for the presumptive number one overall.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it's close.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think our good dude just based on, we know he's already performing in AA.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, but I would say though, if I just said on a pure tools perspective,

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have a switch hitter who I think is just a better hitter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now again, we're talking about college and a metal bat versus wood.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a hard adjustment, but I think that when you like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The thing I guess what I'm kind of, that's why I brought up the 18.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When someone's doing this at this age, it just gives you such, like, we saw this with Connor Griffin obviously, who's also a baby, who just turned 20 in the big news.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, turn 20 and see it's like, oh, now that I'm a 20 year old, let me go out and mash, you know, for the ones that we've got for us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But we see it over and over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, the best way I can put it is is reaching the majors as a teenager or a 20 year old does not guarantee you Hall of Fame status.

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[SPEAKER_02]: However, the way I would put it is, but it gives you a much clearer path to that because if you are able to perform and hold your own at the major leagues as a hitter, I wish to talk about this as hitters, not hitters.

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[SPEAKER_02]: At that age,

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[SPEAKER_02]: your improvement that just players naturally have in your early 20s is being done at the major level as opposed to figuring out how to survive high AA or AA.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And with that, like when I look at Chalowski, very good prospect, but I don't know if he has, I would say that

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[SPEAKER_02]: Defensively, he's better, but other than that, I would say as a hitter, I don't know if he has a real clear advantage over a day, especially when you throw in the age difference.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we do have like, if he, the hope for Chalowski is as if he moves fast is he'll be at 22 year old big later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: From a day, if he moves at a glacial pace at this point, he'll be a 20-year-old big leaguer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And not a crazy thought to think that he'll be a 19-year-old big leaguer, considering he's in AA right now and hitting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the brewers, we would expect to be in it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, he's on, and nothing else, he is on exactly right now the Jackson Cheerio pace.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He is on exactly that as far as the age you was at the level he was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tureo, they sit to triple A at the end of that year when he was 19 and then current hit, you know, he with the big leagues that basically opening the next year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that opening day next year kind of feels like the, that's not a aggressive time table now if my day status healthy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just a logical one if he keeps performing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's going to get him there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be a big leagueer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: two years under his belt, you know, by the time Chalowski, you know, in any of these college drafts, you can reach the majors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't guarantee anything, but it does make for a fascinating thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But Josh, you also talked about that there are other players.

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[SPEAKER_02]: While Meday may be our clear number one right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who are some of the guys who could kind of factor into that discussion as we go to the rest of the church?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You mentioned Chalowski.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even think about him.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But the one who will be number two once Griffin graduates is Leo de Vries, who's also super young, 19 years old.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he's an old man by comparison to my day.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But he skipped the DSL as his common in the cadre system and then got dealt to the A's obviously in the Mason Miller deal in a deal.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think either team regrets right now.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But he's been outstanding in the Texas League.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Granted, it's a more hit or friendly league, but he's 19 years old, one of if not the youngest player in it and is killing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think he might be the, it's between him and Ethan's Alice and that league for, for youngest guy, but he can play up the middle.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He can hit, he can hit for power.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's performing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, if Hazus Maude doesn't exist, this is a,

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's a pretty easy call for number one over all once you're Griffin that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, so by the way, just to answer that, Devries is significantly younger cells.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The both 19, but Salus is up to the other one side after the other.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Salus is about to turn.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He'll turn 20 June 1st, whereas Devries will play the entire season as a 19 year old and turn 20 in October.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we are talking about situation where, yeah,

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[SPEAKER_02]: The conservative expectation is he'll be a big league again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If he stays healthy he'll be a big league or a 20 year old because he will play the entire next season as a 20 year old.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're already in AA to start this year and you're performing, which he is performing so far.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of puts you on that track.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, he's the logical kind of next comparison point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we are talking about, we're talking about two, two, and eight, teenage short stops in AA.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the kind of profile that you talk about is, okay, you could be number one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ian, is anyone else, or is that like, and you and I have a discussion where you were talking about,

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[SPEAKER_02]: that there are tears as you kind of, and we talk about this too, that's what the B.A.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Grades are hopefully kind of laying out in some ways.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tear wise, like, are they at a tier to you at a different level than anyone else?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or, and it's so, like, how many people are in the next year or is there a tear, but they and other players in it, do you think?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think to me, it's my day as an attire, then devries as an attire, and then I think they're actually I agree with Josh.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a little bit of a drop off, and then the next group we have is all guys in AAA, close to the big leagues.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And but I just think all of them for various reasons, they just don't have that same, maybe upside potential.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There, you know, a little older, there's, you know, Walker Jenkins has some issues with the injury concerns.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cole Demoson is the contact has been a little more inconsistent this year than we've seen from him in past years.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think, you know, a little older too and when you factor all that in, I think it's those two alone and then it's kind of, there's a little bit of a drop off.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not a huge drop off.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that we're kind of seeing a similar split to what we saw at the beginning of the season where you know, you had Connor Griffin was in his own tier, but it was just slightly above Kevin McGonagall.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Then after that, there was another slight tier and then you get into like JJ weatherhole and the other guys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: who were there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think right now, that's kind of what we're seeing too with Haseus Maude is in his tier, but it's a very small gap above Leo de Vries, because I mean, you look at those two to very similar production, very similar age.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Underline data is basically identical.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like there's just a lot of similarities with them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then there's a slight tier, and then you get down to the other AAA guys, the cold Emerson's, the Walker Jenkins types, who all have their various issues, but they still extremely talented players.

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[SPEAKER_02]: very talented players, but like, okay, I think I could kind of just do a quick run through on this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like Cole Emerson is have, I know he's a high level higher, but less production.

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[SPEAKER_02]: More kind of like concerns I would say about the contact and all that than these teenagers who are just one level behind him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jenkins, unfortunately injured again right now, but that, you know, a freaking

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say as much as we love Walker Jenkins, like Walker Jenkins' best stretch, a pro ball is kind of the normal Haysus-Madei month.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's like Walker Jenkins was slugging under 400 in the very offensive AAA International League at the time of Zingiri.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Max Clark, I would say like, is a very good player, but I would again, I would not say that it would be hard to say that when it comes to like skills and tools

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[SPEAKER_02]: as good if not better, especially when you talk about that these are short stops, that's what I do feel I agree if you think that there is this kind of tier where

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[SPEAKER_02]: going to be a maybe a little boring for a while to be honest because if Monday keeps it up we just may have a number one till he graduates which hey we love having top prospects at the top of the list we're not going to complain about that in any way shape or form but speaking of that as you go down the list further on there were some players where we had some really interesting discussions in what I was thinking was a three-hour meeting that we had to kind of work through this we'll get into that right after this quick break.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, when we were talking this through and figuring out who moves up, who moves down, who kind of stays, where they are, who's graduating as we work through this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the white

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[SPEAKER_02]: breakout prospects so far last year and then he's shown big power so far this year although batting average in context right cut rate has not been as impressive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He ended up being I would say a divisive prospect not in a bad way, but in a we had a very good discussion about him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Josh will kind of start with you kind of like

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not that you're like, oh, he shouldn't rank in the top 100 or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you kind of raised some of the questions of, hey, maybe we shouldn't be going overboard on this player yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Talk to a lot of scouts about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You've seen him in person this year yourself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What is it that kind of gives you a little bit of pause when it comes to pushing Bonnabra up too much?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I will just push back just one, he's batting average is fine.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's sitting 289.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But the thing that gives me pause is I think there's a lot of red flags going forward.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like he is very strong and can hit the ball a very long way.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But there's a lot of boards in the rest of his game.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like he is spin as an issue for him.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not surprising.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of guys for whom spin as an issue at that age and a lot of other ages.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He can nail a fastball.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I will give him that defensively.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There were questions about whether he can stay on the left side.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I don't think anybody expects him to stick a short stop.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, it's kind of if he at third days, I once got yesterday suggest first base, um, he doesn't run particularly well.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's not a clogger either, but he's, you know, he's not even close to it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's on average or above average, maybe, maybe close with under way.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just, you know, that's a lot of tool things, right there, that's a tool thing and pretty much every area except power.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I know he's doing what he's doing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But there's a lot of areas to work on before he gets to that ceiling.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think he's, you know, the same scout yesterday, maybe give him a 45 grade, you know, kind of up down fringe average big leader.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, against the poor fringe average big figure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, stats got in the stat line might not tell the whole picture in the case of Caleb on him.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't want to totally kill him.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I just say that maybe it's a little roseier on the stat line that it is in person.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Ian, what about, you know, kind of give the case for Caleb on him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess if somebody's got to think you were one of the people kind of was laying out like maybe pushing him up a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I think debates like this is healthy because they chose a good process where, you know, when you talk to scouts about the same player, you're going to get different viewpoints as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, it's one of those things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think the case for bottomer is he's a 20 year old in high A.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He is extremely patient.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He hits the ball extremely hard, you know, it's like above average.

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[SPEAKER_03]: contact, excuse me, exit velocities for someone his age.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's really good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the approach is solid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There is some swing and miss.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's no disagreeing with there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a cake strike.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I race almost 30% right there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Has some trouble catching up on pitches in the zone.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's a little elevator right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But

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[SPEAKER_03]: 20 years old, you know, 20 year old with the power that he has and the knack refining barrels are hard to find.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that the defense is kind of the swing here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If he can stick at third base even, then, you know, if he's a power over hit guy, we've seen that that type of profile have a ton of success, the major level.

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[SPEAKER_03]: where I can see, you know, Josh's side is if he ends up having to move to first base or somewhere like left field, there's just way more pressure on the bat and that's where, you know, the contactability, the work's there, become more of an issue.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I think just when you look at his age, he's a 20 year old, he's got extremely extremely impressive power and he's producing right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, that's, there's something to say about that, you know, he's getting to pitches right now, he's hitting them out of the ballpark, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Second of minors and homeruns as we record this with 11 behind Kevin Alcantara of Intripley who had played a longer season, Kevin Alcantara as 12.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's another power over hit player.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll also note that as Josh mentioned, like, he's doing it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not that there aren't some hitters parks in, but I would say that the South Atlantic League is not the Carolina League, but it's also not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can generally, it has not been the most offensively out there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it depends on what season it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just season it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It depends where you play, man.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Some pretty easy hitters personally.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's Brooklyn, which I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's that's another thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it is worth us kind of mentioning here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's funny because we do like Josh and Ian both did a really good job of getting feedback for this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We talked it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we get kind of.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We try to blend everything that we have, all the reporting we have into putting this together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But one thing that is also true about this, we are in May now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: May and June of this top-hundred is the thinnest the top-hundred gets all year, because the players that we just talked about at the top of this, we had the top three that we loved, who are having great years, you know, that we feel great about what they're doing so far, like Kevin McGonagall's in the J.J., and many others beyond that who've also graduated, they're gone, they're out of here, and they're not yet, we're not going to see yet,

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[SPEAKER_02]: the draft ease.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not here yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we can't say that Rochalowski has entered this and gravy Emerson and all the players in the draft.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we have this combo pack of your seeing players, all that can happen right now is players graduate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: because we're not getting a new influx of players other than prospect taking steps forward.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, I would say like if you compare where this is right now, the 75-100 to where it was before the season, it should be weaker.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, Josh, you had something you wouldn't sell that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I would say like, we're going to graduate with a list you're going to see on Wednesday or are seeing right now, depending on when you listen to this, you're going to lose Peyton Toli very shortly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You're going to lose Chase to Lauder very shortly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Carson Bange almost immediately.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No assault shouldn't be long.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of guys on this list who will be gone fairly soon, and it's going to get even thinner.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Bryce Eldridge just got called back up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So there's there's some guys that are like we're right on the Razor's edge of graduating anyway, and with the new way we do it at BA,

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[SPEAKER_04]: where it's 45 active day service time, guys graduate even quicker.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like Connor Griffin, my graduate sooner than he would in maybe a little bit sooner than he would have in the old format.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Tray is savage, is gonna be graduate much quicker than he would in the old format.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So it's kind of gonna be a little bit of throwing darts at the back for a while.

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[SPEAKER_02]: but speaking of that, we did, we have a number of players who joined this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're gonna cover some more of those in a minute, but I would say that I guy that if you've been paying attention, if you would reading baseball America over the last month, if you've been listening to the podcast for watching us on YouTube,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ian, I don't think that you're going to be surprised to see that national shortstop Ronnie Cruz is now on the top 100.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't leap on to the top 100.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is not a case where to go back to remember when Josh saw Jackson Churio in Zebulon and we went from

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he was off the 100 to he was in the top 50 in a blink of an eye.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ronnie Cruz is at the very back of the 100, however he has joined the 100 from where I would say was being significantly off of the 100 in the off season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What is kind of led to this rise?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, you got to give a ton of credit to the national staff that was able to get him at the deadline last year for Mike Cerotov.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure that's one of the clubs looking back regret because Cruz has just taken a major step forward this year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We first started getting kind of whispers the back fields.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know Jeff saw him down with the nationals during on the back fields and was impressed and he got off through a great start in low way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's now moved up to Haia as a 19 year old and he's hitting even better there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: right now in high A, he's hitting 354 with a 436 on base and a 604 slug.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's got 18 steals on the year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's got six home runs and it's just, it's the power speed combination is just what really stands out with crews.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The tools are extremely loud.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There are definitely concerns, which is why he's on the bottom of the list, namely the contact.

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[SPEAKER_03]: you know, there's a propensity for Chase there, the approach is still developing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But he's got power, he's got speed, he's a super athlete, and he's producing already.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think when you look at the combination of his age and his production and the present tools, there's lots like there, and then you kind of...

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[SPEAKER_03]: Project things out and the approach is going to be the swing here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a ton of variance in his profile But you know if you can figure it out approach wise, you know get a little more patient Improve the swing decisions and which is something that obviously the nationals know they're working on that If you can take a step forward in that area, this is the the starter package for someone who's gonna end up a lot higher on the list But I think this is a safe spot to put them in for now because we still need to see that translate on field and so far You know there's a lot that needs to be done with that area

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just like to point out here that, you know, we were we scouts were on him before this year.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He appeared in one of the backfield standouts entering last season.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He appeared on the ACL guys to watch entering last year.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So this, this wasn't a complete unknown, but he was,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Certainly, or he was a top 10 prospect, yeah, a high 20 prospect in the system.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't like you want on the 30 or anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just, right, I'm trying to plug the scouts here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They were very good at their jobs and helped us very, very much, very much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to think of, there are new additions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There are also players who are on the 100, yet, but who could come onto it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we had a lot of fun discussions about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to get into that right after one more break.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we have the new top 100 up at baseballamerica.com.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do check it out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you to baseballer subscribers for allowing us to do what we do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We hope you enjoy that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We also update the draft rankings to 400 for this year's draft.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We just updated the senior sign list of 50 seniors who really could play a part in this year's draft.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And also have 2027, 2028 draft list up as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So much over at baseballamerica.com.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But we want to wrap the today's up, the prospect podcast by talking about,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the prospects who intrigued us who either moved up, moved on, or are on the cusp of moving on to the top-hunter Josh, who stood out to you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Ethan Salis, we talked about a lot him a lot about him a couple of years ago and it's been kind of a holding pattern like he was moved super aggressively and then missed almost the entirety of last season with the back injury, he was supposed to be in the fall league and wasn't so I think his season last year was like three games at most and now he's back at double

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm so happy to see it because he looked so good two years ago and I would hate to have seen him be one of those guys who just never could get on the field and had his career muted by

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[SPEAKER_04]: you know injuries, let's set up performance.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, when we talked about him, when he was an 18-year-old, a 17-year-old, it was, this guy could be the total package.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I remember seeing him, or hit balls off of guys like Ian Clarkon, like I know he's not, you know, Hall of Fame or anything, but the guy was like seven or eight years his senior and staying in the ball.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You heard tell of him tripling off George Kirby on the back fields.

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[SPEAKER_04]: he was catching in big league games and then all of a sudden he moved so quickly and then his back kind of gave out which is scary for anybody but a catcher.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's super scary.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Now he's back at AA and mashing and catching and stealing and walking and doing all sorts of fun things and he's jumped.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think he's the biggest riser in the list.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Gaffling took a big jump forward.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we were talking about on the meeting yesterday that as we did this, it's like, there's a difference between a guy jumping up who hasn't been there before versus a guy who has, like in Salas's case, he's been very high on this list before and then it was really like Steve's team had to be healthy and perform, healthy and perform.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's been a stretch since we've seen him be healthy and perform.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's great to see him be healthy and perform.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ian, going to you, who stood out to you,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think for me, the most intriguing one is Anthony science and who was the highest debut time to believe in the top 100, he was not on the list and now he's inside the top 50 and he's going to be the top pitching prospect in the red sock system when Peyton told he graduates in a few days.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, he looks all the part of that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's obviously someone we've talked about a lot this season because he had that the amazing performance of the spring breakout game when he had 100 miles per hour for the first time in his career.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And since then, he's done nothing, but impressed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't walk a batter until I think the fifth start of his career.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's missing a ton of bats.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's got four pitches.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a really polished arsenal.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he just showed, he was far too good for high A and he's already been promoted to AA.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's going to be a good test for him because he was obviously clearly too advanced for the high advance.

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[SPEAKER_03]: strikeout rate was over almost 50% in high A was a 47.9% and the way he gets there is I think what really is impressive with him, you know, he's not holding that same velocity he did in spring training, but he's more like, you know, 94 to 97 right now, but he's just got three really good secondary pitches and he can miss bats with all of them and he can locate all of them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: you know, it's the type of polished arsenal that you see work in the big leagues this year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a starter's build.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's got athleticism, pro strikes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like there's just a lot to like with him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, I mean, he's well on his way to establishing himself as one of the top right and pitching prospects and baseball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Prospect, I'm going to talk about is one that joined the very back of the top 100.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you look at his stats, you may say, well, why isn't he going up higher?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because Caden Bodine, who was considered one of the top catching prospects in the 2025 draft class, had a great career coastal Carolina, great context skills, great defender, a little bit of question about the impact.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was kind of the big question.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But Bodine so far is hitting 383, 439, 617, four homers,

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[SPEAKER_02]: 11 walks and in 23 games in a hundred and nine plate appearances, four strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that is a sub four percent strikeout rate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's exceptional.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You may go bull.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, he's in the 90s on this list.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he is in low way, he's at low a Charleston, which is kind of the surprising part of this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When you lay out just everything, I did Luke Stephenson, who's considered the other kind of like top catching college catching prospect in the class, is in high a.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of the level you would expect for a player of this pedigree in their first season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But there's a reason for this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The rays have not sinbodined a high a, because Nathan flew outing,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also is a breakout prospect one who had a great year last year and is in low a at Charleston and now is doing it at high a at bowling green.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's in high a so they didn't want to just say okay we're going to do this a 50 50 jobs split in high a so they want them both to get more time than that behind the plate so they sent bow down to low a we'll have to see like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say that there's not much that Botan can do in low-A that's going to be more impressive to us than what he's done, but we would love to see him do it against a more skill-appropriate level.

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[SPEAKER_02]: whether that's him going up to high a at some point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think flew well and it's going to go up to double any time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe it's just skipping both on at some point too double light because I don't think that that would be crazy for him considering the level, especially considering the catching ability.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But Kaden Boda and absolutely one to watch, especially again, we knew ya great contact skills.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will say, I don't care what level you're at.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A sub 4% strikeout rate to have as many homers, four homers and four

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[SPEAKER_02]: If your homers is equal to your strikeouts, you're probably having a great year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is the baseball America Prospect podcast for this week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A fun one this week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We always love having a new top 100 up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, if you have thoughts, if you have comments,

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[SPEAKER_02]: feel free to leave those on our YouTube channel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That helps other people find the content as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We appreciate that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will try to respond to his names again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will say, if you just say, where is so and so ranked, I'll probably direct you to Baseball American.com.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But if you have questions about why a player moved up, why he didn't move down, where a player is, things like that, I do try to respond to those.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am in the comments regularly and be appreciate hearing from you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is the podcast for Ian Forjosh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm JJ, so long everybody.