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All right.

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Here are five things that I realize after
18 years of co-parenting, now that my kids

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are grown and my co-parenting years are
behind me, I have a lot of clarity that I

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wish I probably would've had a lot sooner.

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But when you're in it,
everything just feels so urgent.

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Everything feels extra emotional
and everything feels like I have

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to take care of this right now.

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Like it's a very matter of fact.

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But the hindsight that I'm gonna give
you today is a little bit different.

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And I hope, I just hope with today's
episode that you trust me and you've

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been around long enough with me that
you know that I'm not a bullshitter.

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You know that I'm not somebody that's
gonna tell you something that truly isn't.

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Tell you the ugly truth of my whole life.

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And so today, as somebody that
went through an extremely high

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conflict co-parenting journey for
years, and I'm on the other side

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of it now and it is my business.

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But I have been through enough therapy
with myself and my children, and

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I've been on a huge apology tour and
have really helped my children over

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the past, decade with things that I
truly feel like these five things.

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If I was brand new going into divorce
and I'd been following me, Sam for a

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while and I said these five things,
I would probably hold onto them.

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Even though they don't feel
accurate for me right now.

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I trust her.

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I trust her.

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So thank you for trusting me.

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Let's dive into these things.

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Now, I want you to keep in mind I got
divorced when my kids were one and three.

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They are now in their twenties
and they are part of my business

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helping me navigate how to improve
co-parenting for high conflict couples.

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So first and foremost thing that I
wish I would've known at the beginning

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that I just figured out at, you
know, now that I have hindsight, is

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how important the parenting plan.

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Is, it matters more than you think.

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And I know there's a lot of
people out there that are early in

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their journey or think that their
attorney is telling them the truth

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about, Hey, don't worry about it.

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You guys will always be able to work it
out after the ink dries, things calm down,

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you know, and all those bullshit things.

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If everything's gonna work out and
everything's gonna be easier when we are

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over this divorce, then why not just build
a parenting plan just in case it's not?

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Let's build a parenting plan that
matters in high conflict and in

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arguments and in bad seasons.

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And then if by chance we are the
couple that can get along forever,

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then we never have to use it.

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But if we do need to use it, then it
better work for us, not against us.

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So when you are going through your
divorce, I just want you to keep in mind

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that parenting plan is really important
because it will be what you fall back on.

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It's a document, but it's also the time.

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You have with your kids, it's the schedule
that you have, it's the holidays you

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have, it's the ability to make decisions.

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Without that parenting plan, you are in
years of turmoil of conflict, either with

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your ex or with your attorney or both.

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And financial loss goes right with that.

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So I wish I would've known all
those years ago when I got handed

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a four page parenting plan and
I'm like, yes, I am divorced.

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Oh, thank you.

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And I was so excited.

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And then a few months later when I
went to use that said parenting plan,

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I was like, well, wait a second.

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I just spent a hundred thousand dollars
on this divorce, and yes, I'm divorced

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and yay for me, but I'm trying to
actually use this practical piece

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of paper and it doesn't work for me.

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It actually works against me.

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It's written very vaguely.

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And so I didn't understand at
the beginning how important

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a parenting plan was.

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So if you've been following me for a
while, you know, that's what I do for

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people is help build their parenting
plan so they don't have that feeling.

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Number two.

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And this one's gonna sting a little
bit, but I wish I would've understood

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faster that I had zero goose egg.

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Not a never gonna happen.

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Ability to control the other parent.

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This is the hardest thing
because when we were married.

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We did things together and
we would figure things out.

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And when we split up my house, did my
thing, and his house did the other, and

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there wasn't a lot of common ground and
I couldn't control how they parented.

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I couldn't control what
they said to my children.

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I couldn't control the choices they made.

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That was very hard because a lot of
those things were the opposite of

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what we did when we were together.

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And I couldn't wrap my head
around, why are you doing things

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that we've never done before?

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Why are you saying things about me
when you were just with me a year

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ago, or months ago or days ago?

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It was very hard for me to wrap my
head around that I had no control

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over what he fed them, what he did
with them, what he said with them.

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And mine was somebody that said a
lot of stuff he shouldn't have said.

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And that was very hard to not.

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Go nuts about and to say something
about, but when you can have radical

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acceptance that you have zero
control over that other parent, you

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do get a little bit of peace back.

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Now, I've been doing this a long time
and people will come to me and they'll

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say, Sam, how do I get my ex do this?

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How do I get my ex to this?

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How do I get my ex to this?

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And I said, oh, let's more talk about
how does what they do affect you?

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Why does that affect you so bad?

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And it always comes back to one thing.

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You're afraid of them hurting the
children, but here's the reality

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spinoff of that, that you can't stop.

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Those are your kids' parents.

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You are their parent, and
that parent is their parent.

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That's your kid's life.

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A bad egg.

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They got dealt.

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A parent that doesn't
fit well, they got dealt.

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A parent that chooses bad things
or different choices that don't

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align, and that child needs to see
that clearly and get used to it.

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Or figure out how to deal with it.

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And that's what you can help with is how
to help your child deal with a parent.

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That may be a little
different to the extreme.

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That's not helpful, but you
can't control the other parent.

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But what you can control is
your responses, your boundaries,

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and your documentation.

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And man will go to town on all
that, but you can't control them.

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I see so many parents saying, Sam, I I
want them to put the kids down earlier.

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They let them stay up till 10.

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They need to be in bed at 7 30, 8 o'clock.

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We can't control that, Sam,
I can't believe that they're

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vaping in the car with my child.

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You can't control that.

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Now, both of those scenarios,
are there things you can do?

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Sure, I can reach out to a teacher
and say, Hey, I have a bedtime.

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That's pretty early.

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I don't know about the other house.

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If my child ever comes to school
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Really sleepy.

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I, I just ask that you document that
and let me know, and if maybe they

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could stay in and rest during recess
or during pe I'd really appreciate it.

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But please let me know if my ex is
vaping in the car with my child.

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If it's illegal in the county or city I
live in, I may just call them and turn

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them in, get them a ticket, but I'm not
going to go to my ex and say, you need

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to put the kids down at seven 30 and
you need to stop vaping in that car.

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I have no control over
another human being.

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There are so many parents like you out
there that are wasting so much energy,

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time, and space on this topic right here.

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I did a decade.

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I tried to control the situation.

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Why does he keep talking
shit about me to my children?

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He needs to stop.

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I took him to court.

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The court said, sir, stop talking
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Okay?

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He's in the car.

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By the time he is in the car, he
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You can't control the other parent.

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What you have to do is have radical
acceptance that you can't control it.

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And then we switch to what can
I control, which is my time with

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my children, and how I make them
feel good when they're with me.

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How do I make them feel
safe when they're with me?

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How I make them feel like they're
validated when they're with me, how I

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give them the tools to survive that house?

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That's what I can do.

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Some of you all are telling
me things like, you know, he

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doesn't brush our kids' teeth.

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Well, I'm gonna tell you what, until
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kids their own teeth and make it a
priority and to make it a thing, your

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kid's gonna have some dirty ass teeth.

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They're just things you
don't have control over.

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Quit spinning.

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Out of control about it yourself
and being all dysregulated about

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a house you can no longer control.

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I would love to have all that time back.

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I would love to have that nervous
system regulated way sooner than

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what I did because I was stuck
on this one for a long time.

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Because here's the biggest
part of it, you would never do

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these things to your children.

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You would never set them up for failure
and vape in the car with them, or keep

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them up till 10 o'clock at night or
speak ill of the other parent to them

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because you would not wanna harm them.

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It doesn't mean that other parent
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You have different expectations for
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That other parent can do
whatever the hell they want.

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And here's the fun of it all, is
that at the end of your child's

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journey with them, they determine
what parent they want around.

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My children have chosen me and
my husband, they no longer engage

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with their dad, not by my actions.

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By his actions, his own
actions, their own relationship.

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My son and daughter's relationship with
their dad and their interactions has a

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domino effect to how they are as adults
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So when I was trying to micromanage
his house, I was trying to make

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all of their relationships whole.

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And, okay, well if you would
just do this, they'd stay.

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If you would just do
this, they'd like you.

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If you would just do this,
they'd understand if you

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would just do this with them.

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they would appreciate you more
and blah, blah, blah, blah,

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blah, and get ahead of this.

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And I was trying to help him so
much trying to control that other

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house, but that's not who he is.

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And once they saw who he was,
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You can't control the other parent.

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Number three.

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This one's gonna trigger me a little bit.

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Woo.

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I told you I was probably
gonna get emotional.

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Your kids see more than
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Notice the tension, the manipulation.

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The inconsistencies or the
consistencies, they know who shows up.

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They see you trying, they
see the other parent lacking.

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You don't have to explain everything.

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Over time as your kids grow up, they
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Your job.

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Is to stay steady with how you show up.

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And this is one I didn't understand
probably till I was almost done

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with my co-parenting journey that
I thought my kids were gonna be so

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angry with me and so mad at me, and
so frustrated with their childhood and

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so disappointed and all these things.

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And then when we're in therapy or we're
talking, or we're talking about our

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Journal entries, or we're doing gratitude
together, and they're talking about

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how I provided this and I did this, and
even they were struggling, mom still

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showed up and, they saw all of it.

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They saw when I was trying, they
saw when I did the little things,

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the little things mattered to them.

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And it wasn't these big, huge gestures.

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It was the small things that I did.

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Your kids see everything.

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They absorb everything.

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They feel everything.

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And when I finally woke up after probably
close to a decade of horrible co-parenting

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and trying to control and letting him run
our house from a different house and using

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everything through a dad filter, because
I was worried about pissing him off.

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And when I finally woke up.

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It became this different person and
my, confidence got bigger and my

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boundaries got stronger, and my ability
to just self-regulate was great.

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My kids sucked over to me and
they're like, we want more of this.

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And it all came down to my kids
understanding how they felt

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when they were with each parent.

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They felt calm and regulated with me.

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They felt like they had a purpose
and they had choices, and they had

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freedoms and they had love, and they
had validation and they were seen and

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they had discipline and they had, just
consistency of love on no conditions.

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They didn't have to
perform to get my love.

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They didn't have to say
things to get my love.

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It was just there.

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And then at the other house, their
stomach felt a different way.

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And they had to check a box to get
love, and they had to do certain X,

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Y, and Z to receive validation, and
they had to be seen a certain way.

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And kids aren't blind to that.

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How they get there and when
they say it or when they do

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something about it is different.

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For all of you, and this is a popular
question I get, I get this question a lot.

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Like, when can my kids have a choice?

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Every kid is different.

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Every situation is different.

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everything is different.

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I can't tell you at, hey, at
12 years old, hey, it's 16.

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What you have to do is ride
the boat that you are showing

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up for your kids consistently.

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With all those things be
the normal regulated one.

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Be the one that just tries.

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I don't care if you try imperfectly.

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I don't care if you try and fail.

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I don't care if you try and
you struggle, but just try and

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your kids will see all that.

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My kids tried or saw me trying.

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My kids saw me trying to pay for sports.

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My kids saw me trying to lose weight.

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My kids saw me trying to
regulate my nervous system and

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put myself in an adult timeout.

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My kids saw me struggling.

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they heard me come back and apologize.

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They heard me come back and
say, what can I do for you?

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Hey, that wasn't about you, my kids.

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I was so authentically
myself when I woke up.

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My kids saw that man, mom was this way
for 10 years with him in that situation,

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but here's who she is now and here's who
she's trying to be, and she's showing us

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that we can detach and be ourselves now.

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I ran everything through a dad
filter at my house for 10 years.

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I was worried about getting in trouble.

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I was worried about going to court.

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I was worried about being a bad co-parent.

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I was worried about him having more
ammo to talk more shit about me.

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I was worried, worried, worried.

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And there just came a day where I was
just like, fuck, I can't do that anymore.

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Radical acceptance,
he's never gonna change.

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No matter how nice I am.

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He is who he is, and I just
need to move the fuck on.

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And when I did.

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My kids saw that.

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They saw that he didn't change, but
they saw that I evolved and I became a

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better parent, and I became a better Sam.

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That was the first and foremost thing
that changed is I became a better Sam,

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which then had me as a better mom,
which then had me as a better teacher,

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which then had me as a better daughter
and a better sis, all the things.

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When I started working on Sam first,
I prioritized Sam and my kids saw

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that, and you know what happened?

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My kids prioritized themselves when
they saw me making me number one.

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They became their own number one.

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And it wasn't about
pleasing somebody over here.

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It was about pleasing themselves.

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And then, oh yeah.

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And then mom's proud of me too.

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That's great.

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But I'm not doing it to make mom proud.

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I'm doing it because I wanna do it.

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And they kept witnessing
me perform for myself.

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I was doing shit for myself first.

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And if they said, good
job, I'm like, cool.

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I know.

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I'm proud of myself too.

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I'm not doing it for you.

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I'm doing it for me.

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When you get to this point where
you start prioritizing yourself

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over everybody, your kids will
follow and do the exact same thing.

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But when you put somebody
else, like a co-parent ahead of

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yourself, guess what your kids do?

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Put that co-parent ahead of themselves,
and even you, because you're teaching them

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that I taught my kids that for 10 years.

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Just do this so he doesn't get mad.

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Just do this so he doesn't get angry.

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Just do this.

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Just do this.

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Come, come on you guys.

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You know him.

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Let's not do that.

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Come on you guys.

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You know, he's gonna scream and holler.

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You know, he is gonna
take me back to court.

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Come on you guys.

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We prioritized him for 10 years, but
when I switched to me, woo, domino

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effect, those kids were begging for me
to be my number one cheerleader so that

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they could be their own cheerleader and
not have to cheer either one of us on.

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But I'm gonna tell you
what, this is a good one.

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Your kids see more than you think.

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They see you struggling, but
they also see you trying.

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They see that you're afraid of them.

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They see that you're scared.

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They can sense it.

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They know it.

333
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Hell, the other parents probably
telling 'em, your mom's scared of me.

334
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Your dad's petrified of me.

335
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But when they finally see you pump your
chest up a little bit, it's all right.

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You wanna take me back to court?

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I don't care.

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I got this going on with work.

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We're good here.

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We just paid this off.

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we're good.

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We're living life over here.

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That confidence, those kids are
begging for it, but they're also

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begging for a real parent that
when they struggle, they own it.

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I struggle with losing weight, man.

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I'm struggling with this.

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I need motivation.

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I gotta motivate myself.

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You know, maybe I'll put
a picture of myself up.

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maybe I'll get a into a program.

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You know, your kids see you trying versus
using excuses like the other parent does.

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I'm telling you this one, I could talk
for hours about how your kids see you and

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they also see that other parent and, but
what do you want them to notice about you?

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All right, number four, again, peace
becomes more valuable than winning.

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Now, this works a lot with my
clients who are, you know, going

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into mediation or going into
their, parenting plan negotiations.

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And, you know, a lot of times
money is talked about and.

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You know, I have a woman right now
who's on year four of her negotiations.

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she's getting done dirty by attorneys
who just love that she keeps paying for

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four years and she's due a lot of money.

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We're talking millions,
and he's dragging his feet.

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I mean, why would he,
why, why wouldn't he?

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He doesn't wanna lose millions.

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He doesn't wanna give her millions.

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I mean, I get it.

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The ego's huge.

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But the law is the law.

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And for me.

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We're at a point with her where
we're like, walk away, take a

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really low amount and walk away.

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We gotta stop the bleeding.

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At some point, you are hemorrhaging
with trauma as you drag this

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out going into year five.

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Now the ex will think that's a win because
he may get to keep his millions in this

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00:16:52,749 --> 00:16:58,912
example, he may, but that's not a win
for her, he thinks, but it is to her.

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She gets to stop paying attorneys.

377
00:17:01,386 --> 00:17:03,186
She gets to finally be divorced.

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She gets to end this portion of her life.

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Her kids and her get to move
on and value more things.

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The stress can leave her body,
the anxiety can leave her body.

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She no longer has to hit wince when
an email pops in from her attorney.

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There is something to be said about
walking away or just being done with

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the same arguments over and over again.

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One of the biggest wins that I got.

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Was starting to pay for everything.

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00:17:31,061 --> 00:17:33,811
Now, with narcissist, money
is the root of all evil.

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They will drag and talk and
bitch and moan about money all

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the time, if you know, you know.

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So when my kids got into high
school, I started paying for things.

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All of it paid for cars, paid for
cell phones, paid for copays, paid for

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extracurriculars, paid for school, paid
for field trips, paid for yearbooks,

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paid for every senior pictures, paid for
dentists, paid for braces Paid for it all.

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My parenting plan didn't mention half of
those things, but the things that they

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did mention, like copays or deductibles, I
didn't send a bill for anymore, and I know

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that my ex thought that was a win for him.

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Kudos to you, bro.

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00:18:06,506 --> 00:18:07,602
How was last Christmas?

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Because my kids were with me.

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00:18:09,917 --> 00:18:13,446
Hey, did you hear that one of our
kids started a new business last week?

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00:18:13,836 --> 00:18:17,459
No, I did because I didn't make winning.

401
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A priority.

402
00:18:19,342 --> 00:18:20,039
I made peace.

403
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A priority?

404
00:18:21,226 --> 00:18:21,772
Yeah.

405
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Did he have to pay me
half of those things?

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00:18:23,362 --> 00:18:23,602
Sure.

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Did I go after it?

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No, because my peace was
more valuable than money.

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Peace becomes the thing you seek out
when you get into this co-parenting

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journey with high conflict people.

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From afar, it may look like you're losing.

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00:18:38,122 --> 00:18:39,592
Well, why would you pay for all that?

413
00:18:39,795 --> 00:18:41,362
Well, why would you just give up on that?

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Why would you let them do that?

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00:18:42,742 --> 00:18:43,012
Why?

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Because my fucking peace is worth a lot
more than any amount of money, and I wanna

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stay regulated and I wanna stay calm.

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00:18:52,156 --> 00:18:53,956
I wanna have a plateau for a while.

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I don't like the ups and the downs.

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So early on, I know all of you
parents, you wanna win that argument.

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You wanna win that case.

422
00:19:01,382 --> 00:19:04,532
You wanna win that judgment,
you wanna win that modification.

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00:19:04,937 --> 00:19:11,439
But over time you start to really realize
that everything isn't about a battle.

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It's about how can I show my kids,
then I'm calm and I'm regulated.

425
00:19:18,540 --> 00:19:20,929
Your energy matters.

426
00:19:20,929 --> 00:19:24,849
When I was going through 300 court entries
in and outta court for eight years,

427
00:19:25,179 --> 00:19:26,559
how do you think my nervous system was?

428
00:19:26,964 --> 00:19:29,949
I'll tell you, dis fucking regulated.

429
00:19:30,409 --> 00:19:31,139
I'd cry one day.

430
00:19:31,139 --> 00:19:31,949
I'd laugh one day.

431
00:19:32,236 --> 00:19:34,599
Hell, I'd cry and laugh
10 times in the same day.

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00:19:34,983 --> 00:19:36,229
I used alcohol to cope.

433
00:19:36,682 --> 00:19:39,896
I use smoking secretly
as a way to call myself.

434
00:19:40,340 --> 00:19:45,316
I surrounded myself with dramatic
fucked up people so that my life

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00:19:45,316 --> 00:19:47,086
looked somewhat fucking calm.

436
00:19:47,484 --> 00:19:49,872
There was no peace in my
life during that phase.

437
00:19:50,142 --> 00:19:51,852
I panicked every time the phone rang.

438
00:19:52,042 --> 00:19:55,439
I double panicked every time I saw
a manila envelope in the mailbox.

439
00:19:55,709 --> 00:19:59,249
I'd cringe every time my lawyer
and I had a meeting I'd throw

440
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up every time I had court.

441
00:20:01,088 --> 00:20:04,936
You think all that's peace just 'cause
I was trying to win at something.

442
00:20:05,649 --> 00:20:07,989
I was trying to win my kids, right?

443
00:20:08,490 --> 00:20:12,839
I was trying to win a higher amount for
child support because he made a lot.

444
00:20:12,899 --> 00:20:13,829
I was a teacher.

445
00:20:14,321 --> 00:20:15,246
I was trying to win.

446
00:20:15,703 --> 00:20:18,072
I didn't have peace on the books at all.

447
00:20:18,466 --> 00:20:19,697
Who felt all of that?

448
00:20:20,263 --> 00:20:20,777
My kids.

449
00:20:21,275 --> 00:20:21,954
My kids again.

450
00:20:21,954 --> 00:20:22,734
I've done an apology tour.

451
00:20:23,434 --> 00:20:25,959
My anxiety was through the fucking roof.

452
00:20:26,438 --> 00:20:30,939
I'm just now post co-parenting,
getting my nervous system calm.

453
00:20:31,389 --> 00:20:33,929
That's how dysregulated
I've been for decades.

454
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But your mental health matters.

455
00:20:35,639 --> 00:20:38,159
So from the outside, when people say,
I can't believe you're giving into

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that, I can't believe, I can't believe,
I can't believe, well, they don't

457
00:20:40,719 --> 00:20:45,162
understand how bad it is, and they
don't understand what peace feels like

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00:20:45,162 --> 00:20:47,022
in your body, what safety feels like.

459
00:20:47,816 --> 00:20:50,614
So protecting your peace
is the bigger victory.

460
00:20:51,059 --> 00:20:53,451
And here's the deal, a little
secret, I'll tell you for free.

461
00:20:53,909 --> 00:20:57,151
Your life will get better when
you stop engaging with negativity.

462
00:20:57,578 --> 00:21:00,277
Everything about that
human being is negative.

463
00:21:00,457 --> 00:21:04,207
Their attitude, their presence, the
arguments over money, the arguments over

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the dominance of decisions, all of it.

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00:21:06,983 --> 00:21:12,777
When you stop feeding into that
machine, your life completely changes.

466
00:21:13,165 --> 00:21:16,827
When I went after peace, I
met Jared, I met my husband.

467
00:21:17,346 --> 00:21:18,237
I lost weight.

468
00:21:18,477 --> 00:21:19,377
I got healthy.

469
00:21:19,527 --> 00:21:20,307
I don't drink.

470
00:21:20,757 --> 00:21:21,747
I don't do any drugs.

471
00:21:21,747 --> 00:21:22,647
I don't smoke.

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00:21:23,034 --> 00:21:23,961
I go to church.

473
00:21:24,291 --> 00:21:25,311
I do gratitude.

474
00:21:25,461 --> 00:21:26,241
I work out.

475
00:21:26,841 --> 00:21:30,171
Everything about my life changed.

476
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:35,724
The second I stopped looking in this
corner and feeding that machine.

477
00:21:36,370 --> 00:21:39,109
And people say, oh, so you lost No, no.

478
00:21:39,109 --> 00:21:41,709
I'm getting ready to go hang
out with all my kids today.

479
00:21:42,706 --> 00:21:43,276
I'm winning.

480
00:21:43,776 --> 00:21:48,986
Because here's the deal that nobody
tells you this 18 year battle over these

481
00:21:48,986 --> 00:21:51,086
kids and trying to win at everything.

482
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,856
Your kids are kids for 18 years.

483
00:21:53,856 --> 00:21:56,196
They're adults with you
a hell of a lot longer.

484
00:21:56,565 --> 00:21:58,452
And I wish somebody would've
told me that little tip.

485
00:21:59,026 --> 00:22:01,786
While we're over here fighting for
these 18 years and trying to win at

486
00:22:01,786 --> 00:22:05,452
all of it, your adult children will
have a different perspective on how

487
00:22:05,452 --> 00:22:08,632
they got treated for those 18, and you
better hope your asses around for the

488
00:22:08,632 --> 00:22:10,432
longer duration, which is adulthood.

489
00:22:10,688 --> 00:22:14,312
And now that my kids are adults,
I'm just gonna tell you way cool.

490
00:22:15,011 --> 00:22:18,809
It's way cool to have kids as adults.

491
00:22:19,252 --> 00:22:19,882
It's fun.

492
00:22:20,407 --> 00:22:22,629
I mean, don't get me wrong, there's
the panic every once in a while when

493
00:22:22,629 --> 00:22:24,189
it's like, Hey, how's your credit card?

494
00:22:24,189 --> 00:22:24,879
Are you paying it off?

495
00:22:24,879 --> 00:22:25,059
You know?

496
00:22:25,663 --> 00:22:26,307
But that's fun.

497
00:22:26,307 --> 00:22:29,834
You're teaching them something,
you get to have all these wins.

498
00:22:30,256 --> 00:22:33,301
You know, my son is thriving
with his partner in business.

499
00:22:33,301 --> 00:22:37,081
My daughter is going to the Morgan
Wallen concert tonight in Tuscaloosa.

500
00:22:37,081 --> 00:22:38,701
And if you know, you know,
that's like a big deal.

501
00:22:39,027 --> 00:22:41,884
We are thriving as adults.

502
00:22:42,406 --> 00:22:47,356
I get to be a part of that because of how
I conducted myself and improved myself.

503
00:22:47,356 --> 00:22:48,916
Was it pretty the first eight, 10 years?

504
00:22:48,916 --> 00:22:52,636
No, but I improved where the last
10 years were fucking awesome,

505
00:22:52,850 --> 00:22:57,332
and they remember that show up
the right way in the 18 years.

506
00:22:57,332 --> 00:22:59,172
So you get the next 40 with your kids.

507
00:23:00,108 --> 00:23:01,578
You fuck up the 18.

508
00:23:01,788 --> 00:23:03,708
You don't get a phone call in the next 40.

509
00:23:03,921 --> 00:23:05,718
You don't get Christmas in the next 40.

510
00:23:05,838 --> 00:23:09,078
You don't get a special call
or a card or anything, or a

511
00:23:09,078 --> 00:23:10,663
FaceTime or family vacation.

512
00:23:10,663 --> 00:23:11,533
You don't get that.

513
00:23:11,773 --> 00:23:16,743
If you fuck up the first 18, find
peace in the first 18 so you have

514
00:23:16,743 --> 00:23:18,123
them with you in the next 40.

515
00:23:18,654 --> 00:23:23,796
Telling you hindsight, last one, and I
know this sounds cliche, I know it does.

516
00:23:24,116 --> 00:23:25,806
Time moves faster than what you expect.

517
00:23:26,332 --> 00:23:29,433
I know when I got told Sam, you
have 50 50 now, this is coming

518
00:23:29,433 --> 00:23:31,290
after, eight days in court.

519
00:23:31,586 --> 00:23:34,166
hundreds of thousands of
dollars spent on lawyers.

520
00:23:34,196 --> 00:23:35,846
43 witnesses.

521
00:23:36,293 --> 00:23:40,863
When I got told 50 50, I collapsed.

522
00:23:41,349 --> 00:23:42,676
I don't remember much after it.

523
00:23:42,946 --> 00:23:44,146
I know I was at work.

524
00:23:44,206 --> 00:23:45,736
I know my mom had to come get me.

525
00:23:46,145 --> 00:23:49,586
I don't remember the next couple
days because I thought, how in the

526
00:23:49,586 --> 00:23:53,486
hell am I going to co-parent with
this person that just did this to me?

527
00:23:53,486 --> 00:23:54,716
Just drug me through court.

528
00:23:55,025 --> 00:23:56,433
Wouldn't agree in mediation.

529
00:23:56,695 --> 00:23:58,593
Had all these witnesses, you
guys, I had two witnesses.

530
00:23:58,593 --> 00:24:00,153
He had 40 some witnesses.

531
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,530
how can I do this?

532
00:24:01,530 --> 00:24:02,550
50 50 with him?

533
00:24:02,950 --> 00:24:06,740
The light at the end of that
tunnel was so fucking small.

534
00:24:06,740 --> 00:24:08,720
It was like the drop of a pin.

535
00:24:09,162 --> 00:24:11,380
But I'm gonna tell you what,
that shit got bright real quick.

536
00:24:11,860 --> 00:24:13,123
It goes by fast.

537
00:24:13,513 --> 00:24:16,440
The exchanges, the holidays, all of it.

538
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:19,290
It goes by fast, especially
when it's half the time.

539
00:24:19,814 --> 00:24:21,076
If you're doing 50 50.

540
00:24:21,486 --> 00:24:24,840
So you better show up for
whatever time you have.

541
00:24:25,341 --> 00:24:27,936
You make those holidays important.

542
00:24:28,504 --> 00:24:29,423
You make 'em special.

543
00:24:29,423 --> 00:24:31,193
You only get 18 holidays with your kids.

544
00:24:31,193 --> 00:24:33,383
There's no guarantee they are
gonna be there Christmas morning

545
00:24:33,383 --> 00:24:34,703
when they're 27 and married.

546
00:24:35,254 --> 00:24:37,316
You make the first 18 special.

547
00:24:37,316 --> 00:24:40,526
I don't care if it's the day or around
the day, there's a whole training

548
00:24:40,526 --> 00:24:44,393
on that, but it goes by super fast.

549
00:24:44,423 --> 00:24:47,310
18 summers, 18 winter breaks.

550
00:24:47,693 --> 00:24:48,793
That's all you get.

551
00:24:49,237 --> 00:24:52,306
That's it When they're miners.

552
00:24:52,366 --> 00:24:55,066
Now again, we're thriving to
have them for the next 40.

553
00:24:55,485 --> 00:24:57,158
It does go by fast.

554
00:24:57,218 --> 00:24:58,748
I would give anything.

555
00:24:59,438 --> 00:24:59,948
Oh,

556
00:25:02,875 --> 00:25:04,118
to have a do over.

557
00:25:05,006 --> 00:25:08,901
' cause I fucked up the first 10 years
' cause I was so worried about winning.

558
00:25:08,931 --> 00:25:11,451
And I was so worried about my ex.
And I was so worried about court

559
00:25:11,451 --> 00:25:13,491
and I was so worried about proving
that I was a good co-parent.

560
00:25:13,491 --> 00:25:16,081
I was so worried about the stupidest shit.

561
00:25:16,728 --> 00:25:18,098
The stupidest shit.

562
00:25:20,612 --> 00:25:24,758
That I didn't show up the way I should
have, and I didn't know how fast it

563
00:25:24,758 --> 00:25:30,105
was gonna go, and I wish somebody
would've shook me and woke me up to you.

564
00:25:30,105 --> 00:25:31,905
Only get one time that they turn 10.

565
00:25:31,905 --> 00:25:34,875
You only get one time that they go to
junior high dance for the first time.

566
00:25:34,875 --> 00:25:36,945
You only get one time at this shit.

567
00:25:37,619 --> 00:25:39,435
And I was so worried about winning.

568
00:25:41,318 --> 00:25:44,198
I would give anything
to have them in my bed.

569
00:25:45,188 --> 00:25:48,248
But I didn't let them sleep in my
bed because I was worried that the

570
00:25:48,248 --> 00:25:51,098
co-parent would find out and then take
me to court and call me weird because

571
00:25:51,098 --> 00:25:52,388
I was letting them sleep in my bed.

572
00:25:52,608 --> 00:25:54,308
Let them sleep in your bed.

573
00:25:55,628 --> 00:26:00,428
Put your fucking phones down
and play with your kids.

574
00:26:02,168 --> 00:26:06,488
Stop worrying about the laundry and
the dishes and the fucking dinners.

575
00:26:06,488 --> 00:26:08,888
Fucking cook a frozen
pizza and call it a day.

576
00:26:09,998 --> 00:26:12,338
Play show up.

577
00:26:12,488 --> 00:26:15,128
Stop skipping shit because
your ex is gonna be there.

578
00:26:15,668 --> 00:26:19,861
Fucking go Take the pictures,
be in the fucking pictures.

579
00:26:20,331 --> 00:26:21,998
It goes by so fast.

580
00:26:24,278 --> 00:26:29,030
I just think about Josie and Walker
and how much I would kill to have their

581
00:26:29,030 --> 00:26:34,490
childhood back because I robbed them blind
because I let all of this stupid shit.

582
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,487
Fucking become so important.

583
00:26:38,926 --> 00:26:42,490
My lawyers made me believe
so many wrong things.

584
00:26:43,227 --> 00:26:46,317
Oh, I'm telling you, it goes by so fast.

585
00:26:46,813 --> 00:26:51,923
And when I hug my bigs, now I
hug for so long and I smell them.

586
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:56,507
And I just think, gosh, how different
their childhood could have been

587
00:26:56,507 --> 00:26:57,917
if mom would've woke up sooner.

588
00:26:58,460 --> 00:26:59,287
Thank God I did.

589
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:05,013
But it goes by so fast and a lot of
you are prioritizing the wrong things.

590
00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:06,247
Their kids.

591
00:27:06,247 --> 00:27:11,800
I saw a TikTok today and I sent it
to Jared and it said, oh my gosh.

592
00:27:12,163 --> 00:27:13,570
It said, what do you do for a living?

593
00:27:14,036 --> 00:27:16,867
And the parent said, or
the person said, I parent.

594
00:27:17,466 --> 00:27:17,903
That's it.

595
00:27:18,323 --> 00:27:20,423
What I do at my nine to
five is not important.

596
00:27:20,953 --> 00:27:25,615
My job is parenting, and I was so fucked
up Back in the day, guys, I would say

597
00:27:25,615 --> 00:27:28,288
my job would've been to be an ex-wife.

598
00:27:28,866 --> 00:27:30,282
That was my priority for a long time.

599
00:27:30,332 --> 00:27:31,232
be a good ex-wife.

600
00:27:31,878 --> 00:27:36,058
You get one time being their
parent one time to make sure they

601
00:27:36,058 --> 00:27:39,868
feel the most love, they feel the
most control over their safety.

602
00:27:40,348 --> 00:27:41,282
It's your job.

603
00:27:41,845 --> 00:27:43,382
And I fucked that up for years.

604
00:27:43,738 --> 00:27:47,735
And it goes by fast and you have
little time to fix it before

605
00:27:47,735 --> 00:27:51,305
they're out in the world having
to navigate and figure things out.

606
00:27:51,365 --> 00:27:53,922
And it's all on how you, program them.

607
00:27:54,012 --> 00:27:55,812
Are they gonna be able
to deal with problems?

608
00:27:55,842 --> 00:27:56,292
I don't know.

609
00:27:56,292 --> 00:27:57,822
Did they watch you deal with problems?

610
00:27:57,822 --> 00:28:02,018
Well, are they gonna be able to know when
someone gives them the ick and what to do?

611
00:28:02,018 --> 00:28:04,868
Or did you show them that, oh, even
though he gives me the ick, I'm still

612
00:28:04,868 --> 00:28:06,278
gonna be around him all the time, like.

613
00:28:06,652 --> 00:28:09,888
You get a short fucking window
to love them and teach them

614
00:28:09,948 --> 00:28:13,905
everything that you possibly can
to make them survive adulthood.

615
00:28:13,935 --> 00:28:14,865
'cause it's fucking scary.

616
00:28:14,865 --> 00:28:17,698
I got a kid in college and I got a
kid living life, and it's just like

617
00:28:17,698 --> 00:28:18,838
every day I'm like, are you okay?

618
00:28:19,198 --> 00:28:19,663
Are you okay?

619
00:28:20,435 --> 00:28:24,798
You do your best, but it goes by so fast.

620
00:28:25,262 --> 00:28:29,538
So not everything has to be a fucking
win, but everything should be peaceful.

621
00:28:29,815 --> 00:28:34,523
That's what they fucking need is somebody
that prioritizes peace over winning.

622
00:28:34,872 --> 00:28:35,763
I don't give a flying.

623
00:28:35,763 --> 00:28:37,203
Fuck what your ex thinks.

624
00:28:37,233 --> 00:28:38,403
Oh, he's gonna think he won.

625
00:28:38,403 --> 00:28:39,663
She's gonna think she beat me.

626
00:28:39,753 --> 00:28:40,923
Who fucking cares?

627
00:28:41,232 --> 00:28:44,013
What do your kids think about you?

628
00:28:44,785 --> 00:28:49,247
That you are just as fucked up as
them, or you regulated and choose

629
00:28:49,247 --> 00:28:51,797
peace and love over the bullshit.

630
00:28:52,095 --> 00:28:53,437
I chose bullshit for 10 years.

631
00:28:54,012 --> 00:28:54,752
I don't get that time back.

632
00:28:55,472 --> 00:28:58,303
I forgive myself because I did the
best I can with the things I had

633
00:28:58,303 --> 00:29:00,703
and the knowledge I had and the
abilities I had, but I know better

634
00:29:00,703 --> 00:29:04,163
now, and you do too after just
watching this short little episode.

635
00:29:04,538 --> 00:29:05,467
You know better.

636
00:29:05,915 --> 00:29:07,153
So do better.

637
00:29:07,183 --> 00:29:11,563
That's why I end every fucking
email and TikTok and social media

638
00:29:11,563 --> 00:29:13,943
post know better do better now you.

639
00:29:14,818 --> 00:29:18,157
So do it better show up
for your fucking kids.

640
00:29:18,157 --> 00:29:19,597
I don't care that your ex is there.

641
00:29:19,597 --> 00:29:24,157
I don't care that he brought his new piece
of ass or she brought her 17th boyfriend.

642
00:29:24,157 --> 00:29:25,207
I don't give a shit.

643
00:29:25,207 --> 00:29:26,677
Your kids want you there.

644
00:29:27,035 --> 00:29:27,950
Show the fuck up.

645
00:29:28,265 --> 00:29:32,747
Do better for your kids because
this time goes by so fast.

646
00:29:32,982 --> 00:29:35,060
You get four proms, right?

647
00:29:35,382 --> 00:29:37,623
You get all these short little things.

648
00:29:38,078 --> 00:29:42,090
And your first focus when you're in this
hyper vigilance of high conflict is like,

649
00:29:42,328 --> 00:29:45,470
oh God, but my ex is gonna be, no, Stacy.

650
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:47,480
Your kid will be there.

651
00:29:48,050 --> 00:29:48,320
Fuck it.

652
00:29:48,350 --> 00:29:49,790
I can tune anybody out.

653
00:29:50,213 --> 00:29:51,263
Learn how to do that.

654
00:29:51,675 --> 00:29:56,963
So all that to say, if you know
me, trust me, these five things

655
00:29:57,113 --> 00:30:00,323
are my hindsights that I wish
somebody would've pulled me aside.

656
00:30:00,758 --> 00:30:06,497
And told me and made sure I understood
and practiced even when I didn't think

657
00:30:06,497 --> 00:30:10,427
they were important, I would've made
sure that my friend made me know that

658
00:30:10,427 --> 00:30:11,987
they were important and made me do them.

659
00:30:12,412 --> 00:30:15,277
So if you need help with your
parenting plan, I'm your girl.

660
00:30:15,727 --> 00:30:19,747
If you need a friend, join
the next chapter if you need.

661
00:30:20,182 --> 00:30:22,402
To learn more, get the masterclass.

662
00:30:22,402 --> 00:30:26,452
But I'm telling you, this comes
down to brash tacks of what can you

663
00:30:26,452 --> 00:30:31,362
do for yourself, making yourself
a fucking priority again, so that

664
00:30:31,362 --> 00:30:36,012
your kids see that and go, wow,
I need to make myself a priority.

665
00:30:36,012 --> 00:30:37,902
Like mom is, like, dad is.

666
00:30:38,357 --> 00:30:40,112
You get one shot at this.

667
00:30:40,435 --> 00:30:44,412
Stop fucking it up trying to win
and just show up for your kids.

668
00:30:44,758 --> 00:30:45,408
That's it.

