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Hey everybody, and when I say,
hey, hey festival everybody.

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Welcome to a live episode of
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So without further ado, let's get into it.

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first question

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all

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of you.

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we have, a

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once loved, now hated labour.

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Prime Minister came to office in a

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landslide,

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is now completely loathed
his legacy and ruins.

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Is there any way back for Tony

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Blair?

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I'm gonna,

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I'm gonna

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go first

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the lonely Tony Defender on panel.

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I, so

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I grew up in the,

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I was

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teenager in

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the late nineties, So I lived through

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the, new dawn has broken,

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has it not, I

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think that

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new labour record is really
good, but the thing that we're

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talking about tonight is the fact that,

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Tony

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one of it.

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as a rare intervention.

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was like, I don't think, I don't think it

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eases it

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really.

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But, into

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the labour leadership

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he said a variety of things.

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The thing I think

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he said that

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true

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is that

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Ki came

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into that

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labour leadership,

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essentially painting himself

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as continuity Corbin.

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then pivoted

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very hard afterwards to say,

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actually, I'm gonna put the left back
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Wipe out badly.

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and then now is

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of just,

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if anyone

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can escape a sealed tomb

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Peter mad Peter Max

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rise.

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but then essentially without

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proper programme for

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government, without

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a governing ideology,

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you will snap back into

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a sort of wishy-washy,

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soft left comfort zone, that
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but you have to make a case

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for it, not

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just it be the kind of
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that's

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they were very clever,

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that they

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we're not getting involved

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or Blairite or Wilson I or Callaghan I, or

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whatever it might

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we are shy.

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only I that we are,

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but, as it's turned out, that's

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problem, is that no

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knows what

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think.

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Couldn't see in his arguments

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any policies

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that haven't already

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adopted by the

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conservatives and reform.

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because if

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wants

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say hi, vote.

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Tory.

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different view from

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him.

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He's free to do

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How did you feel about
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gas?

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Andy

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loved him, couldn't fault him.

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quite

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impressive on a, 35 degree
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that's what we need.

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we need.

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power 2030 commitment.

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proposing the

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were a climate

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denier and, which in fact,
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there is a reason that

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China are installing
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large nuclear power station.

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gigawatts

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talk from Greta Thunberg.

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they're doing that for very hard-nosed
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a mad choke point

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in the Middle East that can apparently be

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electrified more of its
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the race to get things

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clean and efficient.

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the Tony Blair Global Institute
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with AI companies, and I think
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he just loves the future.

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there's a really big contrast
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about clean energy, incredible

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strides of technology advance in the
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apparently is not, exciting to him.

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'cause none

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of, the

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he meets at

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international conferences

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are going on about that.

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What they are saying is AI's fantastic.

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because he's an enthusiast, he has no

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idea what AI is.

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the whole, it isn't good

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humanity

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yourself personally.

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isn't a good policy.

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take away all your jobs,

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particularly, your jobs,

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audience,

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return,

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going to rip up

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your environment

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it full of data centres.

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grab you?

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you just like bleak future apocalypses,

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then Tony's your

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I'm just gonna get

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my system.

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you see the words, the
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for Global Change.

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furthering the knowledge of

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Tony Blair,

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start thinking,

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what's this and what

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are his two main points?

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closer to Trump.

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want to get closer

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to Trump.

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wing is

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Blair now

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as you say, Helen, the point
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it, even if that means annoying people.

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people feel is lacking.

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of a message.

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and, what were the

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there were the pledges, there were the

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there were, there was

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sadly

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revival,

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ed, Stone.

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I think that's the thing.

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approval ratings

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are

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so low and he's so hated.

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But I think it's the sense that there's,

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it's that he's vapour,
that there's nothing

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there.

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And I think

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that's

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the kind of, that is the point.

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I

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take your

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point in

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saying this stuff, but
on the domestic analysis,

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and I was Tony Blas only too

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keen to remind

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himself.

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He did.

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He's the only labour leader ever
to run three general election

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victories.

327
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Like he does know something about
making and winning a political argument.

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And one of the

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things that

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Phillips

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said in

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her resignation letter

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we took,

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spoke, talked about in the last
pod, was we don't wanna have an

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argument, therefore, we don't
go out and make an argument.

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We're

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afraid to make enemies.

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And

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actually, Adam,

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it turns out

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they're listening to

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you because Ki Star's,

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all the

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briefing this

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was

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about banning social media

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for under

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sixteens and

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actually making

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villains outta the tech bosses.

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Yeah.

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The other thing that she said, wasn't it,
was that if there was a crisis, she would

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take advantage of it.

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And it's

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a

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example

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of that.

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But

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she

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suddenly said, why

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not this?

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And he's jumped in and

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gone.

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That's his big thing,

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isn't it?

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But it does

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feel, it just

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feels like there's an absolute

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sense drift

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at the

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top at the moment, doesn't it?

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And bizarrely, they seem
to think that the answer

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to that is to spend six
weeks having a bi-election

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and then a labour

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election

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during

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nothing get done

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either.

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So on we go.

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But

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there are, ideas

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are

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being discussed, which is at least, so
you, whether you like the ideas or not,

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that

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it is forcing a

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lot of the party to

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have a chat with

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itself about

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whatever it might be, about
defence, about health, about

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Brexit,

391
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what's a, what

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a huge failure of their time in

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opposition there, because
I'm a massive nerd.

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I read Philip Gould's the
Unfinished Revolution.

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So he was the

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pollster who was

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intimately involved with new labour.

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And

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what they did was they spent the
mid nineties going away and having

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all those arguments internally doing them.

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That was what we were told Star was

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doing.

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That

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what Sue

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Grey was supposed

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to be bringing in her like roadmap for,

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Armageddon, the opposite Utopia.

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And then they

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got in

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they were

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like,

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oh, it's, oh,

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we're in charge.

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Oh no.

415
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Have you seen these finances?

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These are terrible.

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I wish someone would've said something.

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And yes, so I

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agree with you.

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It's

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good for them to have that argument.

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A

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better time to have that

424
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would've been in, say, May, 2024 before

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they had

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a crack at running the

427
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But

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what they were doing then was the
definition they defined themselves were

429
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just saying,

430
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I'm

431
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not

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Corbin.

433
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I'm very definitely not Corbin, and can we
just emphasise that I'm really not Corbin?

434
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And then it never got
further than the party

435
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stuff did there

436
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didn't

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ever seem to

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be a kind of like

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a big idea.

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And

441
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yeah,

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the Barack Obama

443
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Hopey Changey stuff as referred to

444
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just seems completely absent.

445
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But,

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So

447
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Tony in, in the Blair

448
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Institute for further Blair Ology,

449
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he

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said, why is the Labour Party,

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you by

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the

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idea of

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finding a

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charismatic,

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personality, it

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should be

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about policy.

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And this is

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Tony

461
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Blair

462
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whose

463
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main attraction was a

464
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charismatic personality.

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He seems to have forgotten Gordon Brown.

466
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No, I think

467
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he thinks about Gordon

468
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Brown a lot.

469
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Oh,

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do

471
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you think so?

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Which is

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kind not as much as

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Gordon Brown thinks about him.

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Yes.

476
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Yeah.

477
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we should be dishing out some
equal opportunity kickings

478
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well.

479
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Yes.

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let's

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turn

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right.

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what

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Sironi?

485
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Okay,

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let's stay Exactly.

487
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Okay.

488
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Let's take exactly

489
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where Sironi is.

490
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because

491
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at the time of recording,

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of you

493
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here will have seen, Nigel Farage,

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a leader of

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Reform UK

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has, 5 million excuses for why he took

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a

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massive donation from a Thai

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based crypto billionaire.

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Yep.

501
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the

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parties

503
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reform candidate in the by-election has,

504
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there have

505
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some

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reputationally challenging,

507
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things that

508
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have emerged about him.

509
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it's

510
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what you mean

511
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the,

512
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social media

513
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posts?

514
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Yes.

515
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But

516
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in this

517
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election,

518
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the, really weird thing is that

519
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reform are being out flanked on the right.

520
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Yeah.

521
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So Rupert

522
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Lowe's outfit Restore,

523
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this is gonna

524
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be a

525
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really interesting

526
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test So

527
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people who run focus

528
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groups say that restorers
being brought up in them.

529
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It's,

530
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always a challenge

531
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in the first pass,

532
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post is

533
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it very difficult for new entrants,

534
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very hostile

535
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to new entrants.

536
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So he's essentially got

537
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backing, the

538
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very vocal backing of

539
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Elon

540
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Musk

541
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who was about as

542
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popular as gonorrhoea in

543
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country,

544
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but

545
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has a lot of money.

546
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and

547
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also he is

548
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gone way,

549
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I okay,

550
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so you've already got a situation in which

551
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reforms I,

552
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Yusef is saying

553
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we

554
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would deport foreign nationals
who've got social housing.

555
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So that's,

556
00:09:40,858 --> 00:09:41,368
already talking,

557
00:09:41,368 --> 00:09:43,018
we're already in getting
close to the Trumpy

558
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mass

559
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deportation zone.

560
00:09:44,962 --> 00:09:45,322
Rupert

561
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Lowe is bulldozed

562
00:09:46,168 --> 00:09:46,978
straight beyond that.

563
00:09:46,988 --> 00:09:47,548
He said something

564
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he

565
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wants to take all immigrants

566
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put on a

567
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mid infested island and leave the

568
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to it.

569
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We are now

570
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at

571
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fully far right rhetoric.

572
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Yeah.

573
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So the

574
00:09:55,558 --> 00:09:56,278
interesting question

575
00:09:56,278 --> 00:09:56,518
is,

576
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for the

577
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other

578
00:09:57,508 --> 00:09:58,708
parties, it's

579
00:09:58,708 --> 00:09:59,728
electorally useful

580
00:09:59,842 --> 00:10:00,202
have

581
00:10:00,358 --> 00:10:01,558
restore exists because it

582
00:10:01,558 --> 00:10:02,668
will drain some reform

583
00:10:03,052 --> 00:10:03,232
away

584
00:10:03,238 --> 00:10:03,418
in the

585
00:10:03,418 --> 00:10:03,508
way

586
00:10:03,508 --> 00:10:04,528
that the BMP would've

587
00:10:04,528 --> 00:10:04,768
done.

588
00:10:04,942 --> 00:10:05,152
If you

589
00:10:05,158 --> 00:10:05,668
think about where that

590
00:10:05,668 --> 00:10:05,908
party

591
00:10:05,908 --> 00:10:06,058
is,

592
00:10:06,358 --> 00:10:06,718
but in

593
00:10:06,718 --> 00:10:08,338
no way do you want to encourage the

594
00:10:08,338 --> 00:10:10,468
growth of a far right party with that

595
00:10:10,468 --> 00:10:11,368
kind of rhetoric.

596
00:10:11,818 --> 00:10:12,448
So there will be this

597
00:10:13,048 --> 00:10:13,558
awkward

598
00:10:13,558 --> 00:10:16,378
dance where people will be slightly
keeping their gloves on about

599
00:10:16,378 --> 00:10:17,278
not wanting to

600
00:10:17,458 --> 00:10:19,768
qu this party for
electoral reasons when they

601
00:10:19,768 --> 00:10:20,488
really should.

602
00:10:20,488 --> 00:10:21,898
Because letting it grow

603
00:10:21,898 --> 00:10:22,468
and fester

604
00:10:22,614 --> 00:10:22,884
be

605
00:10:23,002 --> 00:10:23,782
horrible,

606
00:10:24,058 --> 00:10:25,318
make this country horrible to live in.

607
00:10:25,448 --> 00:10:25,695
Adam,

608
00:10:25,780 --> 00:10:28,390
did an even earlier and one of one of
the points reflected on was just how

609
00:10:28,391 --> 00:10:28,961
angry

610
00:10:29,535 --> 00:10:30,195
Britain seems

611
00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:30,700
days.

612
00:10:30,850 --> 00:10:31,120
there is

613
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a

614
00:10:31,365 --> 00:10:33,375
widespread mass.

615
00:10:33,675 --> 00:10:34,905
It's not irritation,
it's further than that.

616
00:10:34,905 --> 00:10:36,045
It is anger about

617
00:10:36,335 --> 00:10:38,170
the feeling that nothing works,

618
00:10:38,175 --> 00:10:38,445
that

619
00:10:38,500 --> 00:10:38,980
big bits

620
00:10:38,985 --> 00:10:40,665
of the state are not
doing their job properly.

621
00:10:41,369 --> 00:10:42,059
Lots of other people are

622
00:10:42,059 --> 00:10:43,259
getting away with it and you are not,

623
00:10:43,829 --> 00:10:44,579
I feel we've hit this point.

624
00:10:44,579 --> 00:10:44,699
We,

625
00:10:44,909 --> 00:10:45,239
it comes

626
00:10:45,355 --> 00:10:45,445
to

627
00:10:45,446 --> 00:10:47,189
the Hopi Changey stuff
I was talking about.

628
00:10:47,999 --> 00:10:48,539
it doesn't

629
00:10:48,539 --> 00:10:49,049
feel like anyone

630
00:10:49,049 --> 00:10:50,429
is voting for any sort of positive

631
00:10:50,429 --> 00:10:51,059
reasons anymore.

632
00:10:51,269 --> 00:10:54,059
Everyone is voting against things
rather than voting for things.

633
00:10:54,239 --> 00:10:56,429
And even within parties, the,

634
00:10:56,429 --> 00:10:59,009
massive swing to the green, some
of it's down to Zach Lansky being

635
00:10:59,219 --> 00:11:02,309
very, charismatic and them coming
out nowhere as effectively a

636
00:11:02,309 --> 00:11:03,569
new party under his leadership.

637
00:11:03,719 --> 00:11:04,439
But an awful lot of it

638
00:11:04,525 --> 00:11:04,769
because a

639
00:11:04,769 --> 00:11:07,499
lot of people in labour are absolutely
Furious about where labour sit

640
00:11:07,499 --> 00:11:08,935
on what Israel is doing Gaza.

641
00:11:09,116 --> 00:11:11,849
And it's the single issues that
people fixate on get extreme,

642
00:11:13,015 --> 00:11:13,825
like, on

643
00:11:13,826 --> 00:11:16,139
the right, that people
fixate on that one thing,

644
00:11:16,315 --> 00:11:16,435
they're

645
00:11:16,709 --> 00:11:17,249
very, angry about.

646
00:11:17,249 --> 00:11:17,605
And they, that

647
00:11:17,696 --> 00:11:18,149
it just seems

648
00:11:18,149 --> 00:11:18,869
to be they're voting

649
00:11:19,229 --> 00:11:19,859
against them.

650
00:11:19,859 --> 00:11:20,939
No one seems to me to be

651
00:11:21,175 --> 00:11:22,109
any sort of positive

652
00:11:22,109 --> 00:11:23,786
story about where Britain be.

653
00:11:23,999 --> 00:11:25,169
They're telling us it's broken and it's

654
00:11:25,169 --> 00:11:25,589
terrible

655
00:11:25,589 --> 00:11:26,279
and it's awful.

656
00:11:26,699 --> 00:11:27,145
And that's

657
00:11:27,479 --> 00:11:27,839
as journalists.

658
00:11:28,439 --> 00:11:28,619
It's not

659
00:11:28,619 --> 00:11:28,919
Wrong politic.

660
00:11:29,849 --> 00:11:30,509
But to go back

661
00:11:30,509 --> 00:11:34,525
to sub blessed Toone, there
was another bit where he about

662
00:11:34,526 --> 00:11:36,449
the all lure of people
at having him a lie in

663
00:11:36,449 --> 00:11:37,499
Argentina, Mr.

664
00:11:37,499 --> 00:11:39,985
Chainsaw who communes with his dead dogs.

665
00:11:40,585 --> 00:11:40,675
Okay.

666
00:11:40,889 --> 00:11:42,689
Through seances, as do we all

667
00:11:42,925 --> 00:11:43,435
sometimes.

668
00:11:43,645 --> 00:11:43,915
But,

669
00:11:44,279 --> 00:11:45,149
and, Georgie

670
00:11:45,149 --> 00:11:48,389
Maloney of and Trump, where he
said the normal institutional

671
00:11:48,389 --> 00:11:49,049
politicians, they ap

672
00:11:49,289 --> 00:11:51,299
approach a wall the
road and they then have

673
00:11:51,299 --> 00:11:52,229
a kind of committee meeting to

674
00:11:52,229 --> 00:11:53,276
see how we could round it.

675
00:11:53,549 --> 00:11:56,129
And then these other, these
populist right politicians

676
00:11:56,305 --> 00:11:56,545
threaten

677
00:11:56,666 --> 00:11:57,776
bulldoze through wall.

678
00:11:57,986 --> 00:11:59,339
And that's what people are voting for.

679
00:11:59,339 --> 00:12:00,839
They want something to happen

680
00:12:01,229 --> 00:12:01,469
and they

681
00:12:01,469 --> 00:12:03,149
feel that there are all
these ways in which nothing

682
00:12:03,149 --> 00:12:03,779
ever changes.

683
00:12:03,779 --> 00:12:04,859
Nothing ever happens.

684
00:12:05,129 --> 00:12:07,499
And I do think that does some of what you

685
00:12:07,499 --> 00:12:07,979
were saying.

686
00:12:08,249 --> 00:12:11,729
There was an analysis of the
recent, cancel elections, which

687
00:12:11,729 --> 00:12:14,446
said essentially you can break down
Britain to four blocks if you are

688
00:12:14,606 --> 00:12:16,706
older and financially precarious.

689
00:12:16,706 --> 00:12:17,639
You're voting reform.

690
00:12:17,699 --> 00:12:20,309
If you're younger and financially
precarious, you're voting green.

691
00:12:20,459 --> 00:12:20,759
If you're

692
00:12:20,759 --> 00:12:21,839
older and financially secure,

693
00:12:21,839 --> 00:12:21,959
you're

694
00:12:21,959 --> 00:12:23,009
voting conservative.

695
00:12:23,039 --> 00:12:23,249
And

696
00:12:23,249 --> 00:12:24,209
if you're younger and financially

697
00:12:24,445 --> 00:12:25,379
you're voting labour.

698
00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:25,829
And

699
00:12:25,829 --> 00:12:27,719
that's a huge oversimplification.

700
00:12:27,809 --> 00:12:28,559
But there is an

701
00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:29,249
alliance there

702
00:12:29,249 --> 00:12:30,719
between people who feel that their

703
00:12:30,719 --> 00:12:33,116
lives are not secure

704
00:12:33,149 --> 00:12:33,269
in

705
00:12:33,505 --> 00:12:34,769
way, and then they have

706
00:12:34,769 --> 00:12:34,889
the,

707
00:12:35,309 --> 00:12:36,929
burn it all down then what?

708
00:12:37,199 --> 00:12:39,266
I've got no stake this system anyway.

709
00:12:40,079 --> 00:12:41,759
that, I think is a very powerful force

710
00:12:41,759 --> 00:12:42,809
in British politics right now.

711
00:12:44,036 --> 00:12:45,869
But comparatively a lot,

712
00:12:47,756 --> 00:12:48,719
it's like question time.

713
00:12:51,116 --> 00:12:52,376
Comparatively, a

714
00:12:52,411 --> 00:12:53,341
lot of those things

715
00:12:53,701 --> 00:12:55,951
are driven by online

716
00:12:55,951 --> 00:12:58,771
media narratives that
aren't necessarily true.

717
00:12:58,826 --> 00:12:59,006
Yeah.

718
00:13:00,086 --> 00:13:00,626
so a

719
00:13:00,631 --> 00:13:01,411
lot of anger

720
00:13:01,411 --> 00:13:03,391
is generated about issues which don't

721
00:13:03,391 --> 00:13:03,781
affect

722
00:13:04,107 --> 00:13:04,737
hugely

723
00:13:05,006 --> 00:13:08,461
and which are not quite the
same issues as those presented.

724
00:13:08,671 --> 00:13:08,941
So I

725
00:13:08,941 --> 00:13:10,951
feel what's different

726
00:13:10,951 --> 00:13:12,811
people say, what's
different about the current

727
00:13:13,347 --> 00:13:13,831
is that,

728
00:13:15,536 --> 00:13:18,001
people are allowed to vent this anger in

729
00:13:18,601 --> 00:13:18,991
very,

730
00:13:19,861 --> 00:13:22,081
blatant toxic ways online.

731
00:13:22,291 --> 00:13:22,471
And

732
00:13:22,471 --> 00:13:23,131
then they bring it

733
00:13:23,366 --> 00:13:25,046
the real world and we

734
00:13:25,051 --> 00:13:25,771
haven't had that.

735
00:13:25,771 --> 00:13:25,921
And

736
00:13:25,921 --> 00:13:28,171
then they're suddenly shocked when someone

737
00:13:28,171 --> 00:13:32,696
says, unbelievably offensive
thing you wrote, it's, it was a

738
00:13:32,701 --> 00:13:33,871
long time ago when you go, it

739
00:13:33,956 --> 00:13:34,436
last week.

740
00:13:35,636 --> 00:13:36,896
and they go, I'm a different person.

741
00:13:36,896 --> 00:13:38,341
You think you're not though, are you?

742
00:13:39,331 --> 00:13:40,441
and then it was banter.

743
00:13:41,817 --> 00:13:44,727
I I'd have statutory, imprisonment

744
00:13:45,027 --> 00:13:45,627
banter myself,

745
00:13:45,758 --> 00:13:45,978
but,

746
00:13:47,007 --> 00:13:47,822
how I how from banter

747
00:13:47,907 --> 00:13:48,717
off on the causes

748
00:13:48,802 --> 00:13:49,162
banter.

749
00:13:49,192 --> 00:13:49,552
Yeah.

750
00:13:50,802 --> 00:13:59,512
and, but these are just ways of saying,
we've normalised a way of being angry

751
00:13:59,517 --> 00:14:01,017
and Furious and about

752
00:14:01,017 --> 00:14:01,377
things

753
00:14:01,527 --> 00:14:03,892
that doesn't necessarily
reflect happening.

754
00:14:04,162 --> 00:14:04,312
And

755
00:14:04,317 --> 00:14:07,737
it's part of the reason,
eye satirises a lot

756
00:14:07,763 --> 00:14:08,378
of the,

757
00:14:08,637 --> 00:14:09,687
mainstream narratives

758
00:14:09,772 --> 00:14:10,192
the writer

759
00:14:10,193 --> 00:14:11,847
as well as on the thing is because

760
00:14:12,417 --> 00:14:15,207
they have gone into complete lunacy.

761
00:14:16,197 --> 00:14:19,047
and the Britain is broken narrative

762
00:14:19,287 --> 00:14:19,977
again,

763
00:14:20,787 --> 00:14:20,997
it,

764
00:14:20,997 --> 00:14:22,137
sells well.

765
00:14:22,222 --> 00:14:23,242
Nothing works.

766
00:14:23,302 --> 00:14:23,812
Everything's

767
00:14:23,817 --> 00:14:24,597
useless.

768
00:14:25,167 --> 00:14:25,647
That just

769
00:14:25,647 --> 00:14:26,247
isn't true.

770
00:14:27,537 --> 00:14:29,667
and in a lot of spheres, this isn't

771
00:14:30,327 --> 00:14:30,657
plos,

772
00:14:30,657 --> 00:14:30,897
that's

773
00:14:30,897 --> 00:14:31,227
not really

774
00:14:31,227 --> 00:14:31,797
my thing.

775
00:14:32,547 --> 00:14:33,027
but

776
00:14:33,327 --> 00:14:33,537
in a

777
00:14:33,537 --> 00:14:35,127
lot of spheres, all

778
00:14:35,242 --> 00:14:37,822
is happening is you are
hearing the noise and you

779
00:14:37,827 --> 00:14:39,117
are not hearing anything else.

780
00:14:39,267 --> 00:14:40,647
And that I think, becomes

781
00:14:40,702 --> 00:14:41,092
problem.

782
00:14:41,512 --> 00:14:43,197
It's a lot of it is down to what your

783
00:14:43,197 --> 00:14:44,007
algorithm serves you

784
00:14:44,123 --> 00:14:44,907
it serves you the stuff that

785
00:14:44,907 --> 00:14:45,537
is making you angry,

786
00:14:45,537 --> 00:14:46,197
but it serves you more

787
00:14:46,197 --> 00:14:47,547
of the stuff that you liked anyway.

788
00:14:47,757 --> 00:14:48,327
And There's no sort of

789
00:14:48,532 --> 00:14:48,832
room

790
00:14:48,837 --> 00:14:50,367
for any sort of counter
narrative to come at that.

791
00:14:50,367 --> 00:14:51,687
I the number of people,

792
00:14:51,687 --> 00:14:51,957
Rupert

793
00:14:51,957 --> 00:14:52,107
Low

794
00:14:52,107 --> 00:14:52,437
is among

795
00:14:52,437 --> 00:14:54,297
them who are absolutely
convinced of the mainstream media

796
00:14:54,297 --> 00:14:54,597
who are in

797
00:14:54,777 --> 00:14:54,927
were

798
00:14:54,927 --> 00:14:56,487
ignoring the child grooming scandals

799
00:14:56,487 --> 00:14:56,757
for

800
00:14:56,992 --> 00:14:59,032
decades until Elon Musk over it

801
00:14:59,273 --> 00:14:59,543
last

802
00:14:59,547 --> 00:14:59,877
year.

803
00:15:00,387 --> 00:15:00,477
was

804
00:15:00,562 --> 00:15:03,927
2012 that we gave the Paul Foot
award investigative journalism

805
00:15:03,927 --> 00:15:05,307
to Andrew Norfolk for the

806
00:15:05,307 --> 00:15:05,817
work he'd done?

807
00:15:05,937 --> 00:15:07,677
the reason people know about this stuff

808
00:15:07,852 --> 00:15:10,257
is because the police investigations
went on at the time and

809
00:15:10,257 --> 00:15:11,397
the journalists who wrote about

810
00:15:11,512 --> 00:15:11,842
yeah.

811
00:15:12,022 --> 00:15:12,412
Just because

812
00:15:12,417 --> 00:15:12,537
it's

813
00:15:12,537 --> 00:15:13,107
taken that

814
00:15:13,107 --> 00:15:13,527
long to

815
00:15:13,587 --> 00:15:14,577
notice, it doesn't

816
00:15:14,577 --> 00:15:14,727
mean

817
00:15:14,727 --> 00:15:15,327
it wasn't happening.

818
00:15:15,387 --> 00:15:15,627
And he

819
00:15:15,627 --> 00:15:17,367
wrote in an obscure journal called The

820
00:15:17,367 --> 00:15:18,057
Times

821
00:15:19,342 --> 00:15:19,582
He was

822
00:15:19,587 --> 00:15:20,757
on the front page, Whoa.

823
00:15:21,023 --> 00:15:22,047
Oh, mainstream media,

824
00:15:22,822 --> 00:15:24,582
lame stream media, I call them.

825
00:15:26,602 --> 00:15:26,692
I

826
00:15:26,873 --> 00:15:27,053
think

827
00:15:27,057 --> 00:15:27,237
it's,

828
00:15:28,522 --> 00:15:28,612
I

829
00:15:28,617 --> 00:15:29,907
do think it's hard if you don't

830
00:15:30,622 --> 00:15:31,132
consume a

831
00:15:31,137 --> 00:15:32,097
lot of this content just

832
00:15:32,097 --> 00:15:32,937
to realise how

833
00:15:33,327 --> 00:15:34,167
incredibly

834
00:15:34,167 --> 00:15:35,127
heightened emotionally it

835
00:15:35,127 --> 00:15:35,487
is.

836
00:15:35,787 --> 00:15:37,047
So if you are on, if you're watching

837
00:15:37,047 --> 00:15:37,797
short form video,

838
00:15:38,067 --> 00:15:39,267
you were just getting stuff

839
00:15:39,267 --> 00:15:40,077
pumped at you.

840
00:15:40,197 --> 00:15:40,437
There is

841
00:15:40,437 --> 00:15:41,607
an established problem on

842
00:15:41,722 --> 00:15:45,957
x formerly Twitter of creators
sitting in other countries.

843
00:15:45,957 --> 00:15:49,767
You like whether basically people who
are sitting in alone at their computer

844
00:15:49,853 --> 00:15:51,952
somewhere like Malaysia creating clips

845
00:15:51,957 --> 00:15:52,257
about

846
00:15:52,343 --> 00:15:53,997
kind of Islamic takeover

847
00:15:53,997 --> 00:15:54,567
of London.

848
00:15:54,807 --> 00:15:54,927
Yes.

849
00:15:54,957 --> 00:15:57,117
And you have this very
odd situation, I spend

850
00:15:57,117 --> 00:15:57,237
a lot

851
00:15:57,292 --> 00:15:58,882
time writing America, where

852
00:15:58,887 --> 00:15:59,997
you have Americans who

853
00:15:59,997 --> 00:16:01,707
live in with unbelievably high

854
00:16:01,707 --> 00:16:02,247
homicide

855
00:16:02,247 --> 00:16:04,977
rates, going, is
everything okay in London?

856
00:16:05,602 --> 00:16:06,082
And you're like,

857
00:16:06,718 --> 00:16:06,728
yeah,

858
00:16:07,792 --> 00:16:07,972
Some

859
00:16:07,979 --> 00:16:08,553
bits of it are quite

860
00:16:08,553 --> 00:16:09,453
nice actually,

861
00:16:10,023 --> 00:16:10,773
but they're all, they,

862
00:16:10,803 --> 00:16:11,283
all they get

863
00:16:11,283 --> 00:16:11,703
fed is

864
00:16:11,703 --> 00:16:12,483
basically

865
00:16:12,652 --> 00:16:13,923
SDI Khan's, Sharia

866
00:16:13,923 --> 00:16:14,643
wasteland

867
00:16:15,633 --> 00:16:15,843
over

868
00:16:15,843 --> 00:16:16,563
and over again.

869
00:16:16,563 --> 00:16:16,713
And

870
00:16:16,713 --> 00:16:17,163
they're sitting

871
00:16:17,163 --> 00:16:20,613
in, Chicago and then they're,
they're worrying about our safety.

872
00:16:20,913 --> 00:16:21,273
And these,

873
00:16:21,273 --> 00:16:22,383
you these are incredibly heightened.

874
00:16:22,383 --> 00:16:22,503
There's

875
00:16:22,503 --> 00:16:24,543
another thing, Jim war of London Centric

876
00:16:24,543 --> 00:16:27,082
bust opener ring of this, a
guy going into houses, multiple

877
00:16:27,089 --> 00:16:27,869
occupation

878
00:16:28,113 --> 00:16:31,023
and filming videos saying,
these people are all Muslims.

879
00:16:31,023 --> 00:16:32,583
None of them speak They have a halal

880
00:16:32,583 --> 00:16:33,123
only house,

881
00:16:33,202 --> 00:16:34,282
it's all social housing.

882
00:16:34,710 --> 00:16:36,633
And there is fundamentally no sanction

883
00:16:36,873 --> 00:16:37,203
on that.

884
00:16:37,203 --> 00:16:38,793
The social media companies
aren't investigating.

885
00:16:39,029 --> 00:16:39,389
interested in

886
00:16:39,393 --> 00:16:40,353
mod moderating it,

887
00:16:40,443 --> 00:16:41,493
that investigation, it wasn't

888
00:16:41,493 --> 00:16:41,503
true.

889
00:16:42,483 --> 00:16:42,633
the,

890
00:16:42,633 --> 00:16:43,953
people living in those houses

891
00:16:44,163 --> 00:16:44,673
were, not,

892
00:16:45,270 --> 00:16:45,480
not,

893
00:16:45,483 --> 00:16:48,270
only, Al but it turned out the guy
responsible was estate agent who

894
00:16:48,270 --> 00:16:49,623
was letting out those houses wasn't,

895
00:16:49,623 --> 00:16:49,713
yeah.

896
00:16:50,669 --> 00:16:50,909
So if

897
00:16:50,910 --> 00:16:51,333
that had been

898
00:16:51,389 --> 00:16:51,689
case,

899
00:16:51,750 --> 00:16:52,623
that would've been down to him.

900
00:16:52,623 --> 00:16:52,773
Really?

901
00:16:53,013 --> 00:16:53,638
Yeah, yeah.

902
00:16:54,123 --> 00:16:54,723
easy to find the

903
00:16:54,875 --> 00:16:56,013
lp, but that's the kind of,

904
00:16:56,099 --> 00:16:56,279
that's

905
00:16:56,283 --> 00:16:56,763
the kind of thing.

906
00:16:56,763 --> 00:16:59,523
And as, said, if you get, if
you watch one of those and you

907
00:16:59,523 --> 00:17:01,110
like it it made you Furious,

908
00:17:01,529 --> 00:17:03,809
guess what's coming along
in a minute is 400 videos.

909
00:17:03,813 --> 00:17:03,903
It's

910
00:17:03,903 --> 00:17:04,053
very

911
00:17:04,053 --> 00:17:04,473
interesting because

912
00:17:04,993 --> 00:17:05,703
I, literally only

913
00:17:05,703 --> 00:17:06,153
get heat

914
00:17:06,389 --> 00:17:06,749
stuff,

915
00:17:06,783 --> 00:17:09,453
so I have no idea what this, I just,

916
00:17:09,903 --> 00:17:11,643
I live in a fool's paradise.

917
00:17:11,643 --> 00:17:13,203
I really, check.

918
00:17:13,203 --> 00:17:13,653
That's all.

919
00:17:14,181 --> 00:17:16,581
Helen, you said if
you're feeling precarious

920
00:17:16,787 --> 00:17:17,297
comfortable,

921
00:17:17,301 --> 00:17:17,511
and if

922
00:17:17,511 --> 00:17:20,091
you're older or younger now, you didn't
mention what happens if you're feeling

923
00:17:20,091 --> 00:17:20,571
precarious

924
00:17:20,627 --> 00:17:21,347
comfortable and

925
00:17:21,351 --> 00:17:22,401
you live in Wales or Scotland.

926
00:17:22,547 --> 00:17:22,847
we've got

927
00:17:22,851 --> 00:17:23,751
five cery and

928
00:17:23,751 --> 00:17:24,226
we've got the smp

929
00:17:24,347 --> 00:17:24,377
I

930
00:17:24,426 --> 00:17:24,626
I also

931
00:17:24,626 --> 00:17:24,826
didn't

932
00:17:24,826 --> 00:17:24,866
mention

933
00:17:25,401 --> 00:17:25,671
the Lib

934
00:17:25,671 --> 00:17:26,871
Dems, because I

935
00:17:27,107 --> 00:17:27,227
where

936
00:17:27,231 --> 00:17:27,321
they

937
00:17:27,321 --> 00:17:28,191
fit into that matrix.

938
00:17:28,191 --> 00:17:28,521
So there are

939
00:17:28,521 --> 00:17:28,731
many

940
00:17:28,731 --> 00:17:29,751
people who are excluded

941
00:17:29,867 --> 00:17:30,167
the Matrix.

942
00:17:30,171 --> 00:17:30,681
Absolutely.

943
00:17:30,681 --> 00:17:31,731
But I think we shouldn't,

944
00:17:33,171 --> 00:17:34,041
given, the day we're

945
00:17:34,041 --> 00:17:35,121
recording this song, we shouldn't miss

946
00:17:35,121 --> 00:17:37,431
out the SNP and I think.

947
00:17:44,573 --> 00:17:44,693
And

948
00:17:44,699 --> 00:17:46,709
we know ply have done marvellously
and congratulations to

949
00:17:46,709 --> 00:17:46,919
them.

950
00:17:46,919 --> 00:17:47,219
But,

951
00:17:49,888 --> 00:17:50,248
for each

952
00:17:50,248 --> 00:17:50,668
of you, what are

953
00:17:50,674 --> 00:17:51,544
your favourite items

954
00:17:51,750 --> 00:17:52,110
Peter Merrill's?

955
00:17:54,828 --> 00:17:55,068
I'm,

956
00:17:56,718 --> 00:17:56,808
I

957
00:17:56,822 --> 00:18:00,572
nearly said expenses, but it's
not, an expense if you've embezzled

958
00:18:00,708 --> 00:18:01,608
But do,

959
00:18:01,622 --> 00:18:01,682
you

960
00:18:01,682 --> 00:18:01,862
have

961
00:18:02,162 --> 00:18:03,872
any top picks?

962
00:18:05,808 --> 00:18:06,588
This is now shopping

963
00:18:06,602 --> 00:18:07,442
channel section of

964
00:18:07,442 --> 00:18:08,042
the evening.

965
00:18:09,438 --> 00:18:10,038
the headline one

966
00:18:10,038 --> 00:18:11,088
that everybody's focused on

967
00:18:11,102 --> 00:18:11,252
is

968
00:18:11,252 --> 00:18:11,372
the

969
00:18:12,988 --> 00:18:13,198
pound

970
00:18:13,352 --> 00:18:13,952
Lile salt

971
00:18:13,952 --> 00:18:14,942
and pepper shakers.

972
00:18:15,362 --> 00:18:15,872
Because I just

973
00:18:15,872 --> 00:18:16,832
think almost no

974
00:18:16,832 --> 00:18:16,982
one

975
00:18:16,982 --> 00:18:17,942
else realised that.

976
00:18:18,178 --> 00:18:18,958
can you a

977
00:18:18,962 --> 00:18:19,232
salt

978
00:18:19,308 --> 00:18:19,608
pepper

979
00:18:19,622 --> 00:18:19,892
shaker

980
00:18:19,892 --> 00:18:20,672
to make it

981
00:18:20,672 --> 00:18:21,062
like,

982
00:18:21,437 --> 00:18:21,677
there

983
00:18:21,682 --> 00:18:22,412
was, a pencil

984
00:18:22,412 --> 00:18:22,892
sharpener

985
00:18:22,892 --> 00:18:23,342
that was worth

986
00:18:23,368 --> 00:18:23,788
about graph.

987
00:18:23,912 --> 00:18:24,212
How

988
00:18:24,212 --> 00:18:24,692
do you make

989
00:18:24,692 --> 00:18:25,477
a pencil sharper

990
00:18:25,578 --> 00:18:26,358
is worth that much

991
00:18:26,377 --> 00:18:27,302
outta Diamond Outta Diamond.

992
00:18:27,443 --> 00:18:27,803
Outta Diamond.

993
00:18:27,918 --> 00:18:28,158
done?

994
00:18:28,442 --> 00:18:29,282
My favourite one was

995
00:18:29,282 --> 00:18:30,392
that he bought and he

996
00:18:30,392 --> 00:18:31,022
embezzled a

997
00:18:31,022 --> 00:18:31,412
copy of

998
00:18:31,412 --> 00:18:33,182
his wive's book of speeches.

999
00:18:35,428 --> 00:18:35,548
I,

1000
00:18:35,557 --> 00:18:35,637
I

1001
00:18:35,668 --> 00:18:36,708
I am I've absolutely got a

1002
00:18:36,718 --> 00:18:37,258
comp from

1003
00:18:37,338 --> 00:18:37,938
publisher.

1004
00:18:37,982 --> 00:18:38,102
Yes.

1005
00:18:38,547 --> 00:18:38,837
Just

1006
00:18:39,297 --> 00:18:39,797
that's where

1007
00:18:39,872 --> 00:18:40,622
I have some sympathy from.

1008
00:18:40,622 --> 00:18:42,092
'cause I wouldn't spend
my money on Nicola Street

1009
00:18:42,092 --> 00:18:42,452
surgeon

1010
00:18:42,452 --> 00:18:42,812
speeches.

1011
00:18:44,208 --> 00:18:44,838
It was the coffee

1012
00:18:44,852 --> 00:18:45,332
machines

1013
00:18:45,438 --> 00:18:45,708
got me.

1014
00:18:45,858 --> 00:18:46,278
Did you see them?

1015
00:18:46,278 --> 00:18:46,338
No.

1016
00:18:46,338 --> 00:18:46,428
Come

1017
00:18:46,478 --> 00:18:47,878
If husband embezzled

1018
00:18:47,928 --> 00:18:48,348
copy of

1019
00:18:48,362 --> 00:18:49,412
your latest book, you'd

1020
00:18:49,412 --> 00:18:50,312
be fuming with him.

1021
00:18:50,852 --> 00:18:51,332
I think, to be

1022
00:18:51,332 --> 00:18:52,442
honest, he probably wants freebies.

1023
00:18:53,837 --> 00:18:55,322
I think if I made him go out and buy it,

1024
00:18:55,428 --> 00:18:55,938
be more fury.

1025
00:18:55,938 --> 00:18:56,028
Yeah.

1026
00:18:56,028 --> 00:18:56,298
Okay.

1027
00:18:56,312 --> 00:18:56,462
Fair

1028
00:18:56,462 --> 00:18:56,582
enough.

1029
00:18:56,582 --> 00:18:57,722
No, the coffee machines were amazing.

1030
00:18:57,752 --> 00:18:58,382
The, it's about

1031
00:18:58,382 --> 00:18:59,492
three, 2000 pound

1032
00:18:59,492 --> 00:19:00,482
coffee machines in there.

1033
00:19:00,628 --> 00:19:00,778
Wow.

1034
00:19:00,858 --> 00:19:01,458
special.

1035
00:19:01,742 --> 00:19:04,322
Nessun, espresso Crue, espresso

1036
00:19:04,558 --> 00:19:04,678
and

1037
00:19:05,312 --> 00:19:05,612
mugs.

1038
00:19:05,612 --> 00:19:05,972
A manual

1039
00:19:05,972 --> 00:19:06,452
espresso

1040
00:19:06,452 --> 00:19:06,872
maker,

1041
00:19:07,382 --> 00:19:08,972
a coffee Cup warmer, which

1042
00:19:08,972 --> 00:19:10,382
was the thing I didn't even know existed.

1043
00:19:10,682 --> 00:19:10,712
Oh.

1044
00:19:10,712 --> 00:19:10,832
But

1045
00:19:10,832 --> 00:19:11,522
then at the bottom of the,

1046
00:19:11,522 --> 00:19:11,642
that's

1047
00:19:11,642 --> 00:19:12,212
a hand

1048
00:19:12,217 --> 00:19:12,757
after all the, just

1049
00:19:12,837 --> 00:19:12,957
a

1050
00:19:12,957 --> 00:19:13,077
hand

1051
00:19:14,803 --> 00:19:15,678
after all the beans.

1052
00:19:15,678 --> 00:19:15,948
Also

1053
00:19:15,962 --> 00:19:16,202
two

1054
00:19:16,202 --> 00:19:18,917
kilogrammes of Nescafe gold
blend, which were worth 81

1055
00:19:19,098 --> 00:19:19,458
60.

1056
00:19:21,302 --> 00:19:21,542
Who was

1057
00:19:21,557 --> 00:19:21,917
that for?

1058
00:19:21,917 --> 00:19:22,237
That's

1059
00:19:22,237 --> 00:19:23,072
just, if the builders were

1060
00:19:23,188 --> 00:19:23,698
that's when

1061
00:19:23,702 --> 00:19:24,572
journalists come round

1062
00:19:24,588 --> 00:19:24,948
and you have to

1063
00:19:24,992 --> 00:19:25,532
pretend to be

1064
00:19:25,562 --> 00:19:26,252
of the people.

1065
00:19:26,372 --> 00:19:26,612
But I

1066
00:19:26,612 --> 00:19:27,662
realised who years at that point.

1067
00:19:27,662 --> 00:19:27,962
He's the

1068
00:19:27,962 --> 00:19:28,292
coffee

1069
00:19:28,292 --> 00:19:28,652
bo.

1070
00:19:28,682 --> 00:19:30,032
There's one in every office

1071
00:19:30,212 --> 00:19:30,602
who has

1072
00:19:30,782 --> 00:19:31,922
a, cold compress thing that

1073
00:19:31,978 --> 00:19:32,868
want tell you about how

1074
00:19:33,178 --> 00:19:34,078
best coffee it

1075
00:19:34,082 --> 00:19:34,172
will

1076
00:19:34,398 --> 00:19:34,818
your life.

1077
00:19:34,878 --> 00:19:35,718
That's Peter Mull.

1078
00:19:35,757 --> 00:19:35,877
I,

1079
00:19:35,877 --> 00:19:37,172
need, I was other people's money.

1080
00:19:37,172 --> 00:19:37,262
mean

1081
00:19:38,658 --> 00:19:40,248
the timing is what I

1082
00:19:40,262 --> 00:19:40,892
like The,

1083
00:19:41,388 --> 00:19:42,288
they managed to,

1084
00:19:42,752 --> 00:19:44,972
conclude this investigation
after the election.

1085
00:19:46,248 --> 00:19:46,398
in

1086
00:19:46,412 --> 00:19:47,252
which the SNP

1087
00:19:47,418 --> 00:19:48,018
very well.

1088
00:19:48,018 --> 00:19:48,978
And thank you

1089
00:19:48,992 --> 00:19:50,077
to all the,

1090
00:19:50,082 --> 00:19:51,392
Scotts Nat supporters who've

1091
00:19:51,648 --> 00:19:53,028
me abuse over the years,

1092
00:19:54,032 --> 00:19:55,322
for ever questioning

1093
00:19:55,562 --> 00:19:58,322
the, probity of the, leadership

1094
00:19:58,398 --> 00:19:58,518
the

1095
00:19:58,532 --> 00:19:59,192
SNP.

1096
00:19:59,898 --> 00:20:00,108
it

1097
00:20:00,122 --> 00:20:01,922
is extraordinary that we're talking

1098
00:20:01,922 --> 00:20:03,872
about 400,000 pounds.

1099
00:20:04,832 --> 00:20:06,482
the excuse given and a

1100
00:20:06,482 --> 00:20:07,472
number of people are

1101
00:20:07,472 --> 00:20:08,132
questioning,

1102
00:20:08,582 --> 00:20:11,702
whether Nicholas Sturgeon's
account of this is entirely

1103
00:20:12,328 --> 00:20:12,568
she's

1104
00:20:12,572 --> 00:20:13,262
been found

1105
00:20:13,502 --> 00:20:14,192
innocent.

1106
00:20:15,138 --> 00:20:15,348
Just

1107
00:20:15,362 --> 00:20:16,592
making that very clear.

1108
00:20:17,582 --> 00:20:17,852
but

1109
00:20:17,852 --> 00:20:18,512
you said they

1110
00:20:18,512 --> 00:20:19,082
had separate

1111
00:20:19,378 --> 00:20:19,768
accounts.

1112
00:20:19,798 --> 00:20:19,888
They

1113
00:20:19,892 --> 00:20:20,882
were both earning

1114
00:20:21,808 --> 00:20:22,318
salaries.

1115
00:20:22,588 --> 00:20:22,918
both

1116
00:20:22,922 --> 00:20:24,062
earning about a hundred

1117
00:20:24,062 --> 00:20:24,452
grand

1118
00:20:24,452 --> 00:20:24,812
each.

1119
00:20:24,812 --> 00:20:28,142
So after tax, that's
about a hundred grand.

1120
00:20:28,202 --> 00:20:30,452
If your joint household

1121
00:20:31,048 --> 00:20:31,408
goes

1122
00:20:31,412 --> 00:20:32,192
from 100

1123
00:20:32,192 --> 00:20:34,712
grand to 500 grand,

1124
00:20:35,238 --> 00:20:37,608
you might notice now

1125
00:20:37,622 --> 00:20:37,952
if you are

1126
00:20:37,952 --> 00:20:38,042
the

1127
00:20:38,042 --> 00:20:40,922
Scottish police, you launch
an investigation, which

1128
00:20:40,922 --> 00:20:43,982
takes a very, long time.

1129
00:20:45,018 --> 00:20:46,458
and only comes

1130
00:20:46,458 --> 00:20:48,498
to its conclusion after it's far

1131
00:20:48,508 --> 00:20:48,688
too

1132
00:20:48,692 --> 00:20:48,932
late

1133
00:20:49,048 --> 00:20:49,408
affect

1134
00:20:49,412 --> 00:20:52,112
fortunes of the, politicians

1135
00:20:52,138 --> 00:20:52,848
of time.

1136
00:20:53,088 --> 00:20:54,648
This is pretty fishy.

1137
00:20:55,158 --> 00:20:57,198
Scottish politics is very small.

1138
00:20:57,528 --> 00:20:58,098
It involves a

1139
00:20:58,114 --> 00:20:58,534
lot of the

1140
00:20:58,534 --> 00:20:59,284
same people.

1141
00:20:59,344 --> 00:21:01,084
Some of them are married
to each other, some

1142
00:21:01,084 --> 00:21:01,264
of them

1143
00:21:01,264 --> 00:21:01,534
aren't

1144
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:01,830
anymore.

1145
00:21:04,204 --> 00:21:05,254
but the idea that

1146
00:21:05,284 --> 00:21:07,174
your first minister, leader

1147
00:21:07,174 --> 00:21:08,884
of the SNP, you

1148
00:21:08,884 --> 00:21:10,174
want to renegotiate

1149
00:21:10,174 --> 00:21:13,744
the financial situation between
Scotland and England and

1150
00:21:13,892 --> 00:21:14,282
don't

1151
00:21:14,284 --> 00:21:16,984
know your husband's embezzled 400 grand

1152
00:21:17,524 --> 00:21:17,944
darling.

1153
00:21:17,944 --> 00:21:18,124
There's

1154
00:21:18,124 --> 00:21:19,294
a new camper Van

1155
00:21:19,414 --> 00:21:19,774
is

1156
00:21:19,774 --> 00:21:19,984
there.

1157
00:21:22,174 --> 00:21:22,534
That's

1158
00:21:22,564 --> 00:21:23,914
lovely, darling.

1159
00:21:24,184 --> 00:21:24,514
Let's

1160
00:21:24,752 --> 00:21:24,872
it

1161
00:21:24,874 --> 00:21:25,864
in the drive.

1162
00:21:25,982 --> 00:21:26,337
I it just

1163
00:21:26,357 --> 00:21:26,577
of

1164
00:21:26,644 --> 00:21:27,364
your mother.

1165
00:21:27,604 --> 00:21:28,624
Let's put it in your mother-in-law's

1166
00:21:28,689 --> 00:21:28,729
car.

1167
00:21:28,734 --> 00:21:28,774
The

1168
00:21:28,774 --> 00:21:29,464
93-year-old

1169
00:21:29,494 --> 00:21:30,244
mother who didn't drive.

1170
00:21:30,304 --> 00:21:30,904
Yeah.

1171
00:21:30,904 --> 00:21:30,964
Yeah.

1172
00:21:31,682 --> 00:21:31,952
Alright.

1173
00:21:32,434 --> 00:21:32,704
I'm gonna

1174
00:21:32,942 --> 00:21:33,272
on because

1175
00:21:33,274 --> 00:21:35,134
can I just say that John Sweeney
may have done the first and

1176
00:21:35,134 --> 00:21:36,364
maybe only joke of his life.

1177
00:21:36,364 --> 00:21:36,514
Did

1178
00:21:36,572 --> 00:21:36,722
see

1179
00:21:36,724 --> 00:21:37,444
this Inadvertently

1180
00:21:37,444 --> 00:21:40,054
they said, do you think Nicola Sturgeon
was really cooperating with the

1181
00:21:40,054 --> 00:21:40,474
police when

1182
00:21:40,504 --> 00:21:42,214
she just said, no comment for seven hours?

1183
00:21:42,394 --> 00:21:43,144
And he said,

1184
00:21:43,474 --> 00:21:43,984
no comment.

1185
00:21:44,374 --> 00:21:45,574
Lovely, lovely

1186
00:21:46,234 --> 00:21:47,524
secret of comedy is timing.

1187
00:21:47,559 --> 00:21:47,849
Very

1188
00:21:47,857 --> 00:21:48,137
strong.

1189
00:21:48,137 --> 00:21:48,147
Very

1190
00:21:48,149 --> 00:21:48,244
Very strong.

1191
00:21:48,364 --> 00:21:48,454
And

1192
00:21:48,514 --> 00:21:48,604
then

1193
00:21:48,604 --> 00:21:49,204
from John Sweeney.

1194
00:21:49,444 --> 00:21:50,434
Alright, look,

1195
00:21:50,822 --> 00:21:51,692
of, terrific

1196
00:21:51,694 --> 00:21:51,964
crooks,

1197
00:21:52,082 --> 00:21:52,322
must

1198
00:21:52,324 --> 00:21:53,074
turn to America.

1199
00:21:55,984 --> 00:21:56,494
Helen,

1200
00:21:57,272 --> 00:21:57,422
you,

1201
00:21:57,424 --> 00:21:57,664
cover

1202
00:21:57,722 --> 00:21:57,872
lot

1203
00:21:57,874 --> 00:21:58,054
of,

1204
00:21:58,444 --> 00:21:59,614
American affairs.

1205
00:22:00,122 --> 00:22:00,302
we're

1206
00:22:00,304 --> 00:22:00,904
now

1207
00:22:01,414 --> 00:22:01,654
how

1208
00:22:01,654 --> 00:22:03,544
long, I think seven or eight years

1209
00:22:03,722 --> 00:22:03,992
Trump's

1210
00:22:03,994 --> 00:22:06,334
second term, just

1211
00:22:06,484 --> 00:22:07,684
by vibes

1212
00:22:07,714 --> 00:22:08,104
alone.

1213
00:22:09,094 --> 00:22:09,484
how is

1214
00:22:09,484 --> 00:22:10,024
it going

1215
00:22:10,024 --> 00:22:10,474
and where

1216
00:22:10,474 --> 00:22:11,014
are we in

1217
00:22:11,462 --> 00:22:11,972
with where

1218
00:22:11,974 --> 00:22:12,514
we were

1219
00:22:12,574 --> 00:22:12,724
the

1220
00:22:12,754 --> 00:22:13,474
first time around?

1221
00:22:13,474 --> 00:22:13,534
If

1222
00:22:14,734 --> 00:22:14,824
a

1223
00:22:14,824 --> 00:22:15,094
year

1224
00:22:15,124 --> 00:22:15,334
and a

1225
00:22:15,544 --> 00:22:15,844
got a

1226
00:22:16,084 --> 00:22:16,684
and a bit in

1227
00:22:16,984 --> 00:22:17,434
I Yeah.

1228
00:22:17,434 --> 00:22:17,614
Can

1229
00:22:17,614 --> 00:22:17,674
you

1230
00:22:17,674 --> 00:22:18,454
even remember what

1231
00:22:18,694 --> 00:22:21,154
the end of 2017, the
beginning of 2018 were like?

1232
00:22:21,154 --> 00:22:21,844
They now the sort of

1233
00:22:21,844 --> 00:22:22,414
miss of time?

1234
00:22:22,924 --> 00:22:25,234
Trump has just, talk about

1235
00:22:25,564 --> 00:22:26,644
being a massive crook.

1236
00:22:26,764 --> 00:22:26,884
He

1237
00:22:26,914 --> 00:22:27,784
has absolutely

1238
00:22:27,814 --> 00:22:28,564
plundered

1239
00:22:28,682 --> 00:22:29,162
American

1240
00:22:29,194 --> 00:22:29,644
state.

1241
00:22:29,644 --> 00:22:30,454
So he's got

1242
00:22:30,484 --> 00:22:33,154
his sons involved in a crypto business.

1243
00:22:34,144 --> 00:22:34,954
he's, doing deals

1244
00:22:34,984 --> 00:22:36,574
with various Middle East and Gulf

1245
00:22:36,574 --> 00:22:37,204
monarchies

1246
00:22:37,324 --> 00:22:39,244
seem to be, basically his
foreign policies have been

1247
00:22:39,274 --> 00:22:40,444
sort an extension of his hotel

1248
00:22:40,472 --> 00:22:40,952
business.

1249
00:22:42,604 --> 00:22:43,714
and the other

1250
00:22:43,832 --> 00:22:43,952
is

1251
00:22:43,954 --> 00:22:44,044
he

1252
00:22:44,044 --> 00:22:45,394
just has this situation now where

1253
00:22:45,394 --> 00:22:46,894
he will just pardon people

1254
00:22:47,584 --> 00:22:48,454
if they've donated

1255
00:22:48,484 --> 00:22:49,024
money to him,

1256
00:22:49,054 --> 00:22:49,954
which just seems

1257
00:22:49,954 --> 00:22:50,704
fairly just

1258
00:22:50,944 --> 00:22:51,634
obviously

1259
00:22:51,634 --> 00:22:52,384
crooked, but it's

1260
00:22:52,774 --> 00:22:54,004
apparently due to a loophole.

1261
00:22:54,004 --> 00:22:54,574
Absolutely

1262
00:22:54,574 --> 00:22:55,054
fine.

1263
00:22:55,624 --> 00:22:55,714
Yeah.

1264
00:22:56,404 --> 00:22:57,514
so the latest thing he's done is

1265
00:22:57,634 --> 00:23:00,604
created a huge slush fund, or the
Department of Justice created a huge slush

1266
00:23:00,784 --> 00:23:04,399
over a billion dollars to basically
pay off people like the January

1267
00:23:04,399 --> 00:23:07,114
6th rioters who've been
victims of miscarriages of

1268
00:23:07,114 --> 00:23:07,594
justice.

1269
00:23:07,774 --> 00:23:08,944
Now you've covered

1270
00:23:08,944 --> 00:23:10,084
some miscarriages of justice in

1271
00:23:10,204 --> 00:23:10,684
time.

1272
00:23:11,344 --> 00:23:11,884
I would say

1273
00:23:12,514 --> 00:23:14,434
who turned up hit a
policeman over the head with

1274
00:23:14,462 --> 00:23:15,002
truncheon

1275
00:23:15,004 --> 00:23:15,694
while dressed as

1276
00:23:17,402 --> 00:23:17,462
I

1277
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:17,890
Who's

1278
00:23:17,890 --> 00:23:18,270
sort of like

1279
00:23:18,272 --> 00:23:18,962
Shamans.

1280
00:23:19,030 --> 00:23:20,080
Yeah, shamans or whatever.

1281
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,190
And not, wouldn't be the,

1282
00:23:21,250 --> 00:23:22,420
I'd probably put like the post

1283
00:23:22,420 --> 00:23:26,740
office people slightly higher on
the list than them, So I think

1284
00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:26,890
that

1285
00:23:27,572 --> 00:23:27,752
he

1286
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,620
has, basically checked outta the

1287
00:23:29,620 --> 00:23:30,850
American presidency.

1288
00:23:31,030 --> 00:23:31,810
What happened is he came

1289
00:23:32,642 --> 00:23:32,702
in,

1290
00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:34,660
this blueprint for
government from the Heritage

1291
00:23:34,660 --> 00:23:36,070
Foundation project 2025.

1292
00:23:36,250 --> 00:23:36,610
He went

1293
00:23:36,610 --> 00:23:37,240
through a blizzard of

1294
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,370
executive orders, which
all American presidents

1295
00:23:39,428 --> 00:23:39,638
come

1296
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:40,600
to rely on now.

1297
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:40,990
Essentially.

1298
00:23:40,990 --> 00:23:42,550
It's a very cheap way of getting things

1299
00:23:42,730 --> 00:23:43,120
without having

1300
00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:43,420
to do them

1301
00:23:43,562 --> 00:23:44,642
Congress, and

1302
00:23:44,642 --> 00:23:45,182
then has just

1303
00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:48,250
become wildly distracted by the Iran War.

1304
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:48,640
There's

1305
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:49,810
talk about them doing some kind

1306
00:23:49,810 --> 00:23:49,870
of

1307
00:23:49,870 --> 00:23:50,260
incursion

1308
00:23:50,402 --> 00:23:51,152
Cuba, but they

1309
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,510
just don't really have

1310
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:53,530
the bandwidth

1311
00:23:53,792 --> 00:23:53,882
it,

1312
00:23:53,918 --> 00:23:54,128
but they

1313
00:23:54,130 --> 00:23:54,490
might do it

1314
00:23:54,490 --> 00:23:55,990
anyway 'cause they're bonkers.

1315
00:23:56,820 --> 00:23:56,980
And,

1316
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,330
he's, meanwhile just,

1317
00:23:58,450 --> 00:23:59,175
I think also he is,

1318
00:23:59,358 --> 00:23:59,498
he,

1319
00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:02,560
feels very lame duck in the
sense that he's already got a

1320
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,910
gold stature of himself

1321
00:24:04,148 --> 00:24:05,648
and he's just got a big, he's

1322
00:24:05,650 --> 00:24:07,900
building a huge UFC ring

1323
00:24:08,496 --> 00:24:08,646
on

1324
00:24:08,650 --> 00:24:09,040
the south

1325
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:09,310
lawn of

1326
00:24:09,396 --> 00:24:09,636
White

1327
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:09,940
House.

1328
00:24:09,970 --> 00:24:10,120
You

1329
00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:11,410
should say what UFC is.

1330
00:24:11,410 --> 00:24:11,590
Yes.

1331
00:24:11,650 --> 00:24:11,860
Oh,

1332
00:24:11,860 --> 00:24:12,340
I'm sure.

1333
00:24:12,340 --> 00:24:12,760
Everyone in the

1334
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,030
audience

1335
00:24:13,030 --> 00:24:14,560
is a huge fan of mixed martial

1336
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:14,920
arts.

1337
00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:18,130
it's ultimate fighting championship.

1338
00:24:18,130 --> 00:24:18,400
So

1339
00:24:18,670 --> 00:24:18,730
Yeah.

1340
00:24:18,730 --> 00:24:19,750
It's not KFC.

1341
00:24:19,810 --> 00:24:19,960
No.

1342
00:24:20,830 --> 00:24:21,940
Although give actually

1343
00:24:21,940 --> 00:24:22,240
he's more

1344
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,140
of a McDonald's guy.

1345
00:24:23,410 --> 00:24:24,130
Give him time.

1346
00:24:24,278 --> 00:24:24,638
But yeah.

1347
00:24:24,638 --> 00:24:25,748
So the, his way

1348
00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:26,410
of this is almost

1349
00:24:26,410 --> 00:24:27,040
beyond parody.

1350
00:24:27,070 --> 00:24:27,520
His

1351
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,770
way of celebrating the 250th anniversary

1352
00:24:29,828 --> 00:24:31,268
the founding of America is he's

1353
00:24:31,300 --> 00:24:32,050
gonna have some

1354
00:24:32,168 --> 00:24:33,098
big, burly blokes

1355
00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:34,330
fight each other on his lawn.

1356
00:24:35,431 --> 00:24:35,721
Okay.

1357
00:24:36,580 --> 00:24:36,820
She's

1358
00:24:36,895 --> 00:24:37,215
you could go

1359
00:24:37,215 --> 00:24:37,375
to any

1360
00:24:37,375 --> 00:24:38,055
weatherspoon.

1361
00:24:38,095 --> 00:24:38,255
a hobby

1362
00:24:38,265 --> 00:24:38,615
Helen.

1363
00:24:38,935 --> 00:24:40,000
You take everything away from,

1364
00:24:40,733 --> 00:24:40,953
but

1365
00:24:41,106 --> 00:24:41,116
But

1366
00:24:41,521 --> 00:24:41,681
it

1367
00:24:41,740 --> 00:24:43,810
it, are we seeing America's greatest

1368
00:24:44,166 --> 00:24:44,886
250

1369
00:24:44,918 --> 00:24:45,278
years in?

1370
00:24:45,278 --> 00:24:45,428
We've

1371
00:24:45,546 --> 00:24:45,606
a

1372
00:24:45,608 --> 00:24:45,758
war

1373
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:46,420
in the Middle East.

1374
00:24:46,598 --> 00:24:47,528
got, a

1375
00:24:47,886 --> 00:24:48,366
American

1376
00:24:48,370 --> 00:24:49,480
invasion on the cards.

1377
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:49,540
Yeah.

1378
00:24:49,750 --> 00:24:51,130
are we just seeing a, an action

1379
00:24:51,130 --> 00:24:51,610
replay?

1380
00:24:51,698 --> 00:24:51,938
That's

1381
00:24:51,940 --> 00:24:52,120
true.

1382
00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:53,320
What have they, what Yeah.

1383
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:53,860
What have they

1384
00:24:53,860 --> 00:24:54,070
missed?

1385
00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:54,820
I thought for a second I had this

1386
00:24:54,820 --> 00:24:55,060
vision

1387
00:24:55,060 --> 00:24:57,580
of actually the, Ultimate fighting
Championship is gonna be replaying.

1388
00:24:57,790 --> 00:24:58,390
So one of them is

1389
00:24:58,538 --> 00:24:58,928
be dressed as

1390
00:24:58,930 --> 00:24:59,740
Abraham Lincoln,

1391
00:25:00,395 --> 00:25:01,735
one of them dressed as sad hue.

1392
00:25:01,885 --> 00:25:02,175
Yeah.

1393
00:25:02,315 --> 00:25:04,180
One of 'em dressed as a
weapon of mass destruction.

1394
00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:04,840
More up for

1395
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:05,050
it now.

1396
00:25:07,822 --> 00:25:08,092
into it.

1397
00:25:08,671 --> 00:25:09,241
okay, so

1398
00:25:10,012 --> 00:25:10,162
and

1399
00:25:10,762 --> 00:25:10,972
how's

1400
00:25:10,976 --> 00:25:11,066
that,

1401
00:25:11,066 --> 00:25:11,246
going

1402
00:25:11,246 --> 00:25:11,966
down with people?

1403
00:25:12,472 --> 00:25:13,012
his approval

1404
00:25:13,016 --> 00:25:13,436
ratings

1405
00:25:13,466 --> 00:25:13,976
have hit the

1406
00:25:13,976 --> 00:25:14,366
lowest

1407
00:25:14,366 --> 00:25:15,326
that they have been in either

1408
00:25:15,326 --> 00:25:16,136
of the, two

1409
00:25:16,136 --> 00:25:16,526
terms

1410
00:25:16,526 --> 00:25:17,816
in the NYT Sienna poll.

1411
00:25:18,026 --> 00:25:18,716
So it's not,

1412
00:25:18,716 --> 00:25:19,346
it's really not

1413
00:25:19,346 --> 00:25:19,886
going well.

1414
00:25:20,036 --> 00:25:21,446
But the interesting thing is that,

1415
00:25:21,866 --> 00:25:21,896
I

1416
00:25:21,896 --> 00:25:22,016
was

1417
00:25:22,016 --> 00:25:23,486
gonna I was about to
say the phrase, you have

1418
00:25:23,486 --> 00:25:24,086
to feel sorry for

1419
00:25:24,172 --> 00:25:24,982
staff, and then

1420
00:25:25,006 --> 00:25:25,456
I realised

1421
00:25:26,716 --> 00:25:27,046
No,

1422
00:25:27,046 --> 00:25:27,436
you don't

1423
00:25:27,446 --> 00:25:27,776
have to.

1424
00:25:27,776 --> 00:25:28,586
You absolutely do not have

1425
00:25:28,586 --> 00:25:28,676
to

1426
00:25:28,676 --> 00:25:28,886
hand

1427
00:25:28,906 --> 00:25:29,056
it to

1428
00:25:29,066 --> 00:25:29,246
them.

1429
00:25:29,542 --> 00:25:31,042
So they, they, have midterm

1430
00:25:31,046 --> 00:25:32,156
elections in November and

1431
00:25:32,156 --> 00:25:33,176
there'll be lots and lots of seats,

1432
00:25:33,532 --> 00:25:34,252
in the both the house

1433
00:25:34,256 --> 00:25:35,336
and the Senate up for grabs.

1434
00:25:35,756 --> 00:25:37,106
And basically he has used

1435
00:25:37,162 --> 00:25:37,282
as

1436
00:25:37,436 --> 00:25:38,636
a revenge tour.

1437
00:25:38,996 --> 00:25:41,336
So anybody who's crossed him, he has

1438
00:25:41,726 --> 00:25:42,266
endorsed

1439
00:25:42,266 --> 00:25:42,416
their

1440
00:25:42,416 --> 00:25:43,556
primary opponent

1441
00:25:43,906 --> 00:25:44,086
to

1442
00:25:44,096 --> 00:25:46,676
the extent that the
Republicans might actually

1443
00:25:47,326 --> 00:25:49,276
about the Senate in Texas,

1444
00:25:49,466 --> 00:25:49,676
which

1445
00:25:49,822 --> 00:25:50,002
been

1446
00:25:50,006 --> 00:25:50,756
very red for a

1447
00:25:50,756 --> 00:25:50,966
very

1448
00:25:50,966 --> 00:25:51,446
long time.

1449
00:25:51,716 --> 00:25:55,226
Because the person he's endorsed
there is quite criminal,

1450
00:25:55,886 --> 00:25:56,696
actually technically

1451
00:25:56,696 --> 00:25:57,596
cleared of all charges.

1452
00:25:58,406 --> 00:25:58,766
thank you.

1453
00:25:59,546 --> 00:25:59,966
yeah,

1454
00:26:00,766 --> 00:26:01,516
for for the lawyer,

1455
00:26:01,546 --> 00:26:01,906
dunno if

1456
00:26:01,912 --> 00:26:02,002
we'll

1457
00:26:02,006 --> 00:26:02,516
have to edit

1458
00:26:02,516 --> 00:26:02,756
out you

1459
00:26:02,962 --> 00:26:03,202
quite

1460
00:26:03,206 --> 00:26:04,706
criminal and then just cut from

1461
00:26:04,706 --> 00:26:06,386
you saying the person he selected is

1462
00:26:06,476 --> 00:26:06,956
cleared of all

1463
00:26:07,546 --> 00:26:07,906
That might,

1464
00:26:07,916 --> 00:26:08,036
mean,

1465
00:26:08,486 --> 00:26:08,576
that

1466
00:26:08,576 --> 00:26:08,756
might,

1467
00:26:09,056 --> 00:26:09,206
that'll

1468
00:26:09,206 --> 00:26:10,286
do the job, I think and

1469
00:26:10,556 --> 00:26:10,826
the law's

1470
00:26:10,826 --> 00:26:10,976
very

1471
00:26:10,976 --> 00:26:11,096
happy.

1472
00:26:11,101 --> 00:26:11,251
Happy,

1473
00:26:11,251 --> 00:26:11,261
yeah.

1474
00:26:11,261 --> 00:26:12,416
Money was just resting in his account.

1475
00:26:12,991 --> 00:26:13,211
But,

1476
00:26:13,216 --> 00:26:13,306
but

1477
00:26:13,306 --> 00:26:14,056
that, but,

1478
00:26:14,336 --> 00:26:16,166
that, that's because the
incumbent senator for

1479
00:26:16,166 --> 00:26:16,616
Texas

1480
00:26:16,726 --> 00:26:20,212
sort of 99% loyal to him, but may
occasionally have said things like,

1481
00:26:20,276 --> 00:26:21,236
Sarai, I don't think this

1482
00:26:21,236 --> 00:26:22,496
war in Iran is a good idea.

1483
00:26:22,916 --> 00:26:23,486
Or

1484
00:26:23,782 --> 00:26:24,202
sir, you

1485
00:26:24,236 --> 00:26:25,196
did lose the election.

1486
00:26:25,556 --> 00:26:27,236
So he's, basically

1487
00:26:27,736 --> 00:26:28,396
hoofed out

1488
00:26:28,402 --> 00:26:28,972
a load of people

1489
00:26:28,996 --> 00:26:29,116
that

1490
00:26:29,116 --> 00:26:29,986
have his critics,

1491
00:26:30,172 --> 00:26:30,802
but the effect of

1492
00:26:30,806 --> 00:26:31,406
that is also they've

1493
00:26:31,552 --> 00:26:32,212
six months to

1494
00:26:32,216 --> 00:26:34,256
run around, slagging him off.

1495
00:26:34,286 --> 00:26:34,736
So that might

1496
00:26:34,736 --> 00:26:35,876
become quite lively in their

1497
00:26:35,876 --> 00:26:36,296
lame duck

1498
00:26:36,296 --> 00:26:36,716
session.

1499
00:26:36,956 --> 00:26:38,846
But also they might actually lose,

1500
00:26:39,832 --> 00:26:40,822
you'd expect them to lose

1501
00:26:40,846 --> 00:26:43,066
the house might even just

1502
00:26:43,072 --> 00:26:44,092
about lose the Senate,

1503
00:26:45,014 --> 00:26:45,194
which

1504
00:26:45,194 --> 00:26:45,464
means,

1505
00:26:45,704 --> 00:26:46,334
he, which

1506
00:26:46,552 --> 00:26:46,852
that the

1507
00:26:46,874 --> 00:26:48,884
Democrats then would control
all the committees so

1508
00:26:48,884 --> 00:26:49,694
they can just subpoena

1509
00:26:49,694 --> 00:26:50,984
all his people, mi him

1510
00:26:50,986 --> 00:26:51,466
him stuff, try

1511
00:26:51,494 --> 00:26:51,944
and impeach

1512
00:26:51,952 --> 00:26:53,017
him, all that kind of, they

1513
00:26:53,054 --> 00:26:54,704
just throw sand in the gears of anything

1514
00:26:54,704 --> 00:26:57,794
getting done and he just can't
get any legislation passed,

1515
00:26:57,892 --> 00:26:59,842
which would be a problem if he

1516
00:26:59,864 --> 00:27:00,284
wanted to

1517
00:27:00,284 --> 00:27:00,974
get any legislation

1518
00:27:00,974 --> 00:27:01,274
passed.

1519
00:27:01,282 --> 00:27:02,962
But I think he just
wants to invade things.

1520
00:27:03,172 --> 00:27:03,592
He's just

1521
00:27:04,672 --> 00:27:06,052
he's just gonna jazz hands it.

1522
00:27:06,134 --> 00:27:06,254
He's

1523
00:27:06,254 --> 00:27:06,974
d more pappy, but

1524
00:27:06,974 --> 00:27:07,154
three

1525
00:27:07,162 --> 00:27:07,737
years early is what

1526
00:27:07,786 --> 00:27:07,876
what

1527
00:27:07,876 --> 00:27:07,966
you're

1528
00:27:07,969 --> 00:27:08,109
saying?

1529
00:27:08,109 --> 00:27:08,349
Very,

1530
00:27:08,564 --> 00:27:09,344
yeah, very early.

1531
00:27:09,344 --> 00:27:09,524
Yeah.

1532
00:27:09,764 --> 00:27:11,054
do you think he might invade

1533
00:27:11,056 --> 00:27:11,656
America

1534
00:27:13,364 --> 00:27:13,424
in

1535
00:27:13,424 --> 00:27:14,384
a moment of horrible

1536
00:27:14,384 --> 00:27:14,984
confusion?

1537
00:27:14,984 --> 00:27:16,304
He is pointing the wrong way.

1538
00:27:17,084 --> 00:27:17,894
Him and whose Army?

1539
00:27:17,954 --> 00:27:18,224
Yeah.

1540
00:27:19,109 --> 00:27:19,509
Ian, how

1541
00:27:19,509 --> 00:27:19,964
do you feel

1542
00:27:19,964 --> 00:27:22,124
covering, the, I the
eye obviously covers a

1543
00:27:22,124 --> 00:27:23,444
lot more British politics.

1544
00:27:23,444 --> 00:27:23,684
What,

1545
00:27:23,992 --> 00:27:24,292
how do you

1546
00:27:24,314 --> 00:27:27,044
feel looking at the state
of American politics?

1547
00:27:27,044 --> 00:27:29,834
Do you ever wish to
hunt that bigger game or

1548
00:27:29,834 --> 00:27:30,044
is it

1549
00:27:30,044 --> 00:27:30,254
just

1550
00:27:30,254 --> 00:27:30,914
so depressing

1551
00:27:30,914 --> 00:27:31,004
that

1552
00:27:31,004 --> 00:27:31,364
you can't

1553
00:27:31,364 --> 00:27:32,204
bear the prospect

1554
00:27:32,204 --> 00:27:32,414
of it?

1555
00:27:32,654 --> 00:27:32,804
no.

1556
00:27:32,924 --> 00:27:33,404
I've got Helen

1557
00:27:33,406 --> 00:27:34,321
writing a,

1558
00:27:34,372 --> 00:27:34,462
a,

1559
00:27:34,484 --> 00:27:35,714
us eye column every week,

1560
00:27:35,714 --> 00:27:36,914
so I feel we're we are very

1561
00:27:37,222 --> 00:27:37,582
there.

1562
00:27:37,582 --> 00:27:37,792
Yeah.

1563
00:27:37,882 --> 00:27:38,002
At

1564
00:27:38,024 --> 00:27:39,374
one point readers did write

1565
00:27:39,374 --> 00:27:39,854
in and say,

1566
00:27:39,982 --> 00:27:40,402
you stop

1567
00:27:40,636 --> 00:27:40,936
Trump

1568
00:27:40,942 --> 00:27:41,152
on the

1569
00:27:41,174 --> 00:27:41,474
cover?

1570
00:27:41,474 --> 00:27:42,224
It's depressing.

1571
00:27:43,484 --> 00:27:44,924
but then it's just too funny.

1572
00:27:48,429 --> 00:27:49,604
I, I take that as

1573
00:27:49,604 --> 00:27:50,414
red, but

1574
00:27:50,572 --> 00:27:51,562
say his

1575
00:27:51,914 --> 00:27:53,294
approval rates are low.

1576
00:27:53,746 --> 00:27:54,196
low.

1577
00:27:55,064 --> 00:27:55,304
What,

1578
00:27:55,304 --> 00:27:56,504
percentage is that?

1579
00:27:56,594 --> 00:27:57,734
37% on the,

1580
00:27:57,734 --> 00:27:57,824
can

1581
00:27:57,824 --> 00:27:57,884
you

1582
00:27:57,897 --> 00:27:59,172
you imagine a British leader having

1583
00:27:59,174 --> 00:28:00,149
37%

1584
00:28:01,166 --> 00:28:01,886
But then I suppose we

1585
00:28:01,886 --> 00:28:02,726
don't have the same kind

1586
00:28:02,726 --> 00:28:02,786
of

1587
00:28:03,263 --> 00:28:04,018
fandom

1588
00:28:04,076 --> 00:28:04,316
for our,

1589
00:28:04,856 --> 00:28:05,471
either, either

1590
00:28:05,603 --> 00:28:07,043
Tories labour, right?

1591
00:28:07,046 --> 00:28:07,796
There's no group

1592
00:28:07,913 --> 00:28:08,393
hardcore

1593
00:28:08,396 --> 00:28:09,026
star rights

1594
00:28:09,026 --> 00:28:09,326
who go to

1595
00:28:09,326 --> 00:28:09,596
all his

1596
00:28:10,073 --> 00:28:10,403
dressed

1597
00:28:10,406 --> 00:28:10,496
as

1598
00:28:10,583 --> 00:28:10,883
border

1599
00:28:11,031 --> 00:28:11,184
wall.

1600
00:28:13,316 --> 00:28:13,496
Yes.

1601
00:28:13,631 --> 00:28:13,991
I guess it

1602
00:28:14,096 --> 00:28:16,256
would print dressed as Hadrian's wall.

1603
00:28:16,316 --> 00:28:17,246
What would you dress as

1604
00:28:17,393 --> 00:28:17,453
a

1605
00:28:17,456 --> 00:28:18,686
key Starer speech?

1606
00:28:20,546 --> 00:28:20,636
A

1607
00:28:20,636 --> 00:28:21,476
serious question.

1608
00:28:21,866 --> 00:28:22,946
I'm not moving on until I've got

1609
00:28:23,033 --> 00:28:23,303
answer

1610
00:28:23,306 --> 00:28:23,846
from everyone.

1611
00:28:23,846 --> 00:28:23,996
actually.

1612
00:28:23,996 --> 00:28:24,086
Okay.

1613
00:28:25,164 --> 00:28:25,434
While you're

1614
00:28:25,434 --> 00:28:25,734
thinking

1615
00:28:25,736 --> 00:28:26,006
about this,

1616
00:28:26,006 --> 00:28:26,426
I'll say that

1617
00:28:26,426 --> 00:28:27,086
this is a real thing.

1618
00:28:27,086 --> 00:28:27,356
I went

1619
00:28:27,356 --> 00:28:29,786
to a Trump rally in Redding, Pennsylvania,
and they have all the people who sit in

1620
00:28:29,843 --> 00:28:30,563
front row come

1621
00:28:30,563 --> 00:28:30,893
dressed

1622
00:28:30,896 --> 00:28:31,826
as Uncle Sam.

1623
00:28:32,186 --> 00:28:34,526
And then they also have a guy
who calls himself Mr. Wall,

1624
00:28:34,646 --> 00:28:34,916
who has

1625
00:28:34,916 --> 00:28:36,056
had a whole bespoke

1626
00:28:36,056 --> 00:28:36,356
suit

1627
00:28:36,533 --> 00:28:36,653
that

1628
00:28:36,656 --> 00:28:37,586
looks like bricks.

1629
00:28:38,216 --> 00:28:38,576
That's

1630
00:28:38,906 --> 00:28:39,386
so

1631
00:28:39,656 --> 00:28:39,956
right.

1632
00:28:39,956 --> 00:28:40,916
Just saying, Ian, you love a

1633
00:28:41,334 --> 00:28:42,024
What you could

1634
00:28:42,233 --> 00:28:42,263
a,

1635
00:28:42,624 --> 00:28:42,714
you

1636
00:28:42,761 --> 00:28:43,226
could have a clear

1637
00:28:43,226 --> 00:28:44,906
star suit that looked like,

1638
00:28:45,806 --> 00:28:45,956
would

1639
00:28:45,956 --> 00:28:46,976
be free, obviously.

1640
00:28:48,928 --> 00:28:49,148
Oh,

1641
00:28:49,148 --> 00:28:49,748
what if it were,

1642
00:28:49,916 --> 00:28:50,121
Oh, what if it were, could

1643
00:28:50,126 --> 00:28:50,696
you go dressed

1644
00:28:50,696 --> 00:28:50,816
as

1645
00:28:50,816 --> 00:28:51,506
a tool?

1646
00:28:52,979 --> 00:28:53,199
Yes.

1647
00:28:54,564 --> 00:28:55,074
A double, act.

1648
00:28:55,074 --> 00:28:55,974
You did a tool and a tool

1649
00:28:56,006 --> 00:28:56,276
maker.

1650
00:28:56,276 --> 00:28:56,546
I think

1651
00:28:56,588 --> 00:28:56,748
would

1652
00:28:56,748 --> 00:28:56,908
be nice.

1653
00:28:56,938 --> 00:28:57,228
yeah,

1654
00:28:57,468 --> 00:28:57,668
yeah.

1655
00:28:57,768 --> 00:28:58,314
One of you guys

1656
00:28:58,346 --> 00:28:59,246
dressed as a hammer and one

1657
00:28:59,303 --> 00:28:59,423
you

1658
00:28:59,754 --> 00:29:00,864
of smith in an

1659
00:29:00,866 --> 00:29:01,316
apron.

1660
00:29:01,316 --> 00:29:01,526
Yeah.

1661
00:29:01,526 --> 00:29:01,646
Okay.

1662
00:29:01,646 --> 00:29:02,426
That's why I would go dressed

1663
00:29:02,426 --> 00:29:02,486
as,

1664
00:29:03,383 --> 00:29:03,473
Ian,

1665
00:29:03,746 --> 00:29:04,286
something to say

1666
00:29:04,523 --> 00:29:04,643
that

1667
00:29:04,676 --> 00:29:05,066
was interesting

1668
00:29:05,066 --> 00:29:06,806
about the good chap principle, which

1669
00:29:07,166 --> 00:29:07,526
Yes.

1670
00:29:07,526 --> 00:29:07,796
No, I

1671
00:29:07,796 --> 00:29:08,486
just noticed

1672
00:29:08,486 --> 00:29:08,606
that

1673
00:29:08,606 --> 00:29:09,026
American

1674
00:29:09,026 --> 00:29:09,986
commentators who for

1675
00:29:09,986 --> 00:29:12,296
years have said the British Constitution

1676
00:29:12,684 --> 00:29:12,984
is,

1677
00:29:12,984 --> 00:29:13,764
unworkable.

1678
00:29:13,793 --> 00:29:13,943
'
cause

1679
00:29:13,943 --> 00:29:14,033
it

1680
00:29:14,066 --> 00:29:15,086
relies on what

1681
00:29:15,144 --> 00:29:15,264
the

1682
00:29:15,686 --> 00:29:19,436
snobbish called the good chap principle,
which means that people will behave

1683
00:29:19,436 --> 00:29:20,906
well even if you don't write

1684
00:29:21,203 --> 00:29:21,473
down

1685
00:29:21,476 --> 00:29:22,106
to stop them.

1686
00:29:22,286 --> 00:29:23,156
Whereas the American

1687
00:29:23,783 --> 00:29:24,803
is black

1688
00:29:24,804 --> 00:29:24,894
and

1689
00:29:24,896 --> 00:29:25,226
white

1690
00:29:25,466 --> 00:29:25,826
checks

1691
00:29:25,944 --> 00:29:26,724
balances.

1692
00:29:26,844 --> 00:29:27,354
We don't

1693
00:29:27,356 --> 00:29:28,256
need this.

1694
00:29:28,526 --> 00:29:29,606
And I feel now

1695
00:29:29,606 --> 00:29:30,716
a slight sense

1696
00:29:30,803 --> 00:29:31,644
Chardon Freud,

1697
00:29:32,396 --> 00:29:33,056
in thinking,

1698
00:29:33,773 --> 00:29:34,468
had the good chat

1699
00:29:34,526 --> 00:29:34,946
principle.

1700
00:29:34,946 --> 00:29:35,456
You have

1701
00:29:35,723 --> 00:29:36,293
bonkers

1702
00:29:36,294 --> 00:29:36,894
lunatic,

1703
00:29:38,393 --> 00:29:39,503
constitutional,

1704
00:29:39,776 --> 00:29:40,076
checks

1705
00:29:40,164 --> 00:29:40,674
balances,

1706
00:29:40,766 --> 00:29:41,786
which don't work.

1707
00:29:42,233 --> 00:29:42,383
He

1708
00:29:42,386 --> 00:29:43,856
literally doesn't care anymore.

1709
00:29:44,453 --> 00:29:44,723
Yeah.

1710
00:29:44,726 --> 00:29:44,816
And

1711
00:29:45,593 --> 00:29:45,653
the

1712
00:29:45,656 --> 00:29:46,736
Supreme Court won't stop

1713
00:29:46,736 --> 00:29:46,796
him.

1714
00:29:46,884 --> 00:29:48,324
got six three majority on the Supreme

1715
00:29:48,326 --> 00:29:48,806
Court, which

1716
00:29:48,893 --> 00:29:49,103
the

1717
00:29:49,164 --> 00:29:49,614
arbiter.

1718
00:29:49,794 --> 00:29:50,814
Mike Johnson, the speaker

1719
00:29:50,843 --> 00:29:50,903
of

1720
00:29:50,903 --> 00:29:50,963
the

1721
00:29:50,966 --> 00:29:51,986
house won't,

1722
00:29:52,223 --> 00:29:52,463
him.

1723
00:29:52,796 --> 00:29:54,326
And he,

1724
00:29:54,326 --> 00:29:54,716
and also

1725
00:29:54,803 --> 00:29:54,953
got

1726
00:29:54,954 --> 00:29:55,854
this thing there where he plays

1727
00:29:55,856 --> 00:29:57,386
JD Vance and Marco Rubio.

1728
00:29:57,386 --> 00:29:58,346
So vice president

1729
00:29:58,433 --> 00:29:58,493
the

1730
00:29:58,494 --> 00:30:00,594
Secretary of State off each other is which

1731
00:30:00,683 --> 00:30:00,803
you

1732
00:30:00,806 --> 00:30:02,006
is my favourite son?

1733
00:30:02,996 --> 00:30:03,056
who

1734
00:30:03,056 --> 00:30:03,176
is

1735
00:30:03,176 --> 00:30:03,806
my bestest

1736
00:30:03,806 --> 00:30:03,816
child?

1737
00:30:03,816 --> 00:30:03,841
there?

1738
00:30:03,871 --> 00:30:04,241
None of

1739
00:30:04,241 --> 00:30:04,481
the sons

1740
00:30:04,481 --> 00:30:04,641
are, because

1741
00:30:04,943 --> 00:30:05,063
sons

1742
00:30:05,063 --> 00:30:05,303
are, because

1743
00:30:05,321 --> 00:30:05,641
their wedding

1744
00:30:05,874 --> 00:30:06,084
gonna their

1745
00:30:06,121 --> 00:30:06,241
He,

1746
00:30:06,836 --> 00:30:06,956
no.

1747
00:30:06,956 --> 00:30:08,366
I'm very busy this weekend.

1748
00:30:08,666 --> 00:30:08,786
He

1749
00:30:08,786 --> 00:30:09,481
said, I'm hanging out with Marco.

1750
00:30:10,021 --> 00:30:10,241
He

1751
00:30:10,241 --> 00:30:10,561
did nothing

1752
00:30:10,854 --> 00:30:11,154
week, the

1753
00:30:11,156 --> 00:30:11,756
weekend Yeah.

1754
00:30:11,756 --> 00:30:12,116
anyway.

1755
00:30:12,296 --> 00:30:12,716
Yes.

1756
00:30:13,494 --> 00:30:13,854
Sorry.

1757
00:30:13,943 --> 00:30:14,363
It's sad.

1758
00:30:14,394 --> 00:30:14,664
I feel

1759
00:30:14,666 --> 00:30:14,936
sorry

1760
00:30:14,936 --> 00:30:15,116
for them.

1761
00:30:15,204 --> 00:30:15,294
I

1762
00:30:15,326 --> 00:30:16,406
don't feel sorry for them.

1763
00:30:16,676 --> 00:30:16,976
No,

1764
00:30:17,066 --> 00:30:17,546
they did this

1765
00:30:17,603 --> 00:30:18,113
themselves.

1766
00:30:18,116 --> 00:30:19,256
They deserve to be unhappy.

1767
00:30:19,496 --> 00:30:19,826
Okay.

1768
00:30:19,826 --> 00:30:20,186
So it's,

1769
00:30:22,248 --> 00:30:22,839
so they do.

1770
00:30:27,014 --> 00:30:27,374
So it sounds

1771
00:30:27,378 --> 00:30:28,308
like the forecast is just

1772
00:30:29,024 --> 00:30:29,774
more of this

1773
00:30:29,928 --> 00:30:32,748
and nothing, no effective breaks on

1774
00:30:32,748 --> 00:30:32,808
the

1775
00:30:32,808 --> 00:30:33,108
plane.

1776
00:30:33,438 --> 00:30:34,398
is there any further he

1777
00:30:34,573 --> 00:30:34,873
go

1778
00:30:35,564 --> 00:30:35,894
that?

1779
00:30:36,198 --> 00:30:36,708
Not only

1780
00:30:36,708 --> 00:30:37,818
do you pardon everyone

1781
00:30:37,818 --> 00:30:38,028
else

1782
00:30:38,028 --> 00:30:38,868
who's ever given you money,

1783
00:30:38,868 --> 00:30:39,678
but you pardon

1784
00:30:39,858 --> 00:30:43,668
yourself for the future forever.

1785
00:30:44,568 --> 00:30:45,528
that's, a proposal

1786
00:30:45,528 --> 00:30:45,648
that

1787
00:30:45,648 --> 00:30:45,828
he's

1788
00:30:45,888 --> 00:30:46,158
yeah.

1789
00:30:46,364 --> 00:30:46,694
He said

1790
00:30:46,728 --> 00:30:50,058
that he, neither he nor his family can
have their tax affairs ever investigated.

1791
00:30:50,354 --> 00:30:50,654
I'm just

1792
00:30:50,958 --> 00:30:52,188
and give us a tiny silver lining

1793
00:30:52,334 --> 00:30:53,444
which is, if he's

1794
00:30:53,688 --> 00:30:54,378
confined to

1795
00:30:54,644 --> 00:30:54,704
a

1796
00:30:54,708 --> 00:30:56,328
lot of domestic embezzlement,

1797
00:30:56,328 --> 00:30:57,018
much like

1798
00:30:57,258 --> 00:30:58,008
Peter Merrill

1799
00:30:58,214 --> 00:30:58,754
at a much

1800
00:30:58,758 --> 00:31:02,988
larger scale, wouldn't that be better for
Britain than him doing mad foreign wars?

1801
00:31:04,158 --> 00:31:04,368
He's

1802
00:31:04,372 --> 00:31:06,502
looting America rather than

1803
00:31:06,622 --> 00:31:06,862
Yeah.

1804
00:31:06,892 --> 00:31:08,152
Bombing places.

1805
00:31:08,812 --> 00:31:10,132
Do they not go hand in hand?

1806
00:31:10,758 --> 00:31:10,968
Okay.

1807
00:31:10,968 --> 00:31:11,178
Yes.

1808
00:31:11,178 --> 00:31:11,958
I suppose it's possible

1809
00:31:12,198 --> 00:31:12,468
both.

1810
00:31:12,753 --> 00:31:12,833
Yes.

1811
00:31:12,887 --> 00:31:12,897
Yes.

1812
00:31:13,522 --> 00:31:13,552
He

1813
00:31:13,787 --> 00:31:14,297
multitask.

1814
00:31:14,302 --> 00:31:14,542
There is a

1815
00:31:14,542 --> 00:31:16,102
morning and an afternoon in the day.

1816
00:31:16,192 --> 00:31:16,612
Yeah.

1817
00:31:17,032 --> 00:31:18,022
And then there's all night

1818
00:31:18,167 --> 00:31:18,407
him.

1819
00:31:18,432 --> 00:31:18,652
Yes.

1820
00:31:19,392 --> 00:31:19,612
He

1821
00:31:19,702 --> 00:31:19,792
He

1822
00:31:19,792 --> 00:31:20,092
sticks

1823
00:31:20,187 --> 00:31:20,617
with his

1824
00:31:20,617 --> 00:31:20,697
phone.

1825
00:31:20,962 --> 00:31:21,652
because no one's

1826
00:31:21,652 --> 00:31:22,492
on truth social

1827
00:31:22,492 --> 00:31:22,762
apart

1828
00:31:22,762 --> 00:31:23,992
from mad maga people that

1829
00:31:24,137 --> 00:31:25,037
not really

1830
00:31:25,042 --> 00:31:25,612
understood.

1831
00:31:25,668 --> 00:31:25,908
And the

1832
00:31:25,912 --> 00:31:26,152
night

1833
00:31:26,152 --> 00:31:27,532
before he went to China, he,

1834
00:31:27,798 --> 00:31:29,028
I think he posted something like

1835
00:31:29,362 --> 00:31:30,532
500 times.

1836
00:31:30,532 --> 00:31:30,892
It was cer

1837
00:31:30,952 --> 00:31:31,342
certainly

1838
00:31:31,342 --> 00:31:32,362
in the triple digits.

1839
00:31:32,422 --> 00:31:32,452
Mm.

1840
00:31:32,782 --> 00:31:32,992
he's

1841
00:31:32,992 --> 00:31:36,472
obviously, he's talk about actually
Tony Ble have a little word with him

1842
00:31:36,588 --> 00:31:36,918
discover

1843
00:31:36,922 --> 00:31:37,612
some of the dangers

1844
00:31:37,612 --> 00:31:37,702
of

1845
00:31:37,702 --> 00:31:38,182
ai

1846
00:31:38,422 --> 00:31:39,772
because he now will just post

1847
00:31:39,857 --> 00:31:41,538
most obvious like AI slop.

1848
00:31:41,837 --> 00:31:42,077
Yeah.

1849
00:31:42,107 --> 00:31:42,457
Hites.

1850
00:31:42,652 --> 00:31:43,582
He see that the

1851
00:31:43,582 --> 00:31:43,972
meme of

1852
00:31:43,972 --> 00:31:45,352
him as Jesus that actually got him

1853
00:31:45,497 --> 00:31:45,857
trouble was

1854
00:31:45,862 --> 00:31:46,912
just AI slop.

1855
00:31:47,118 --> 00:31:47,238
It

1856
00:31:47,272 --> 00:31:50,992
was one he did of, Nancy Pelosi and
Barack Obama and Joe Biden swimming in

1857
00:31:50,992 --> 00:31:52,192
sewage in the reflecting

1858
00:31:52,217 --> 00:31:52,517
pool.

1859
00:31:53,632 --> 00:31:53,932
he's

1860
00:31:53,932 --> 00:31:54,382
just

1861
00:31:54,382 --> 00:31:55,672
is your Facebook uncle,

1862
00:31:55,732 --> 00:31:56,122
but then the

1863
00:31:56,387 --> 00:31:56,717
things,

1864
00:31:56,722 --> 00:31:58,312
that you think must be AI slopped

1865
00:31:58,488 --> 00:31:58,668
not

1866
00:31:58,702 --> 00:32:00,142
to be, I mean he has genuinely put

1867
00:32:00,198 --> 00:32:00,468
a large

1868
00:32:00,472 --> 00:32:01,132
gold statue of

1869
00:32:01,517 --> 00:32:01,667
isn't

1870
00:32:01,667 --> 00:32:01,727
it?

1871
00:32:01,997 --> 00:32:02,087
Yeah.

1872
00:32:02,087 --> 00:32:02,117
A

1873
00:32:02,153 --> 00:32:02,513
Miami do.

1874
00:32:02,748 --> 00:32:02,808
Yeah.

1875
00:32:02,808 --> 00:32:02,958
People

1876
00:32:02,962 --> 00:32:03,562
are kneeling

1877
00:32:03,677 --> 00:32:04,127
front of,

1878
00:32:04,342 --> 00:32:04,852
it's Trump,

1879
00:32:04,852 --> 00:32:04,942
so

1880
00:32:04,942 --> 00:32:05,122
it's,

1881
00:32:05,148 --> 00:32:05,328
let's

1882
00:32:05,332 --> 00:32:05,752
be honest, it's

1883
00:32:05,752 --> 00:32:06,142
not really

1884
00:32:06,142 --> 00:32:06,442
gold

1885
00:32:06,447 --> 00:32:06,497
is

1886
00:32:06,553 --> 00:32:06,713
Very

1887
00:32:06,713 --> 00:32:06,833
gold.

1888
00:32:06,948 --> 00:32:07,368
It's Guilt,

1889
00:32:08,118 --> 00:32:08,448
guilt.

1890
00:32:09,292 --> 00:32:09,442
Not

1891
00:32:09,442 --> 00:32:10,012
a word Trump

1892
00:32:10,127 --> 00:32:10,457
familiar

1893
00:32:10,462 --> 00:32:10,672
with.

1894
00:32:10,672 --> 00:32:10,732
Hey.

1895
00:32:10,997 --> 00:32:11,867
Hey

1896
00:32:13,578 --> 00:32:14,568
But the irony of

1897
00:32:14,902 --> 00:32:15,472
up, hasn't it?

1898
00:32:16,518 --> 00:32:17,208
Putin goes

1899
00:32:17,327 --> 00:32:17,567
see

1900
00:32:17,572 --> 00:32:19,072
Q and Trump

1901
00:32:19,098 --> 00:32:19,218
is

1902
00:32:19,222 --> 00:32:20,632
supporters say that's pathetic.

1903
00:32:20,632 --> 00:32:20,722
A

1904
00:32:20,722 --> 00:32:21,202
guy who's

1905
00:32:21,202 --> 00:32:21,892
losing a war,

1906
00:32:21,892 --> 00:32:23,542
going begging for help.

1907
00:32:23,782 --> 00:32:24,802
You were there the week

1908
00:32:24,827 --> 00:32:25,427
before.

1909
00:32:27,678 --> 00:32:27,828
Yeah.

1910
00:32:27,828 --> 00:32:28,158
A trip.

1911
00:32:28,162 --> 00:32:28,552
I have to say

1912
00:32:28,552 --> 00:32:30,382
a triple, which absolutely
nothing happened.

1913
00:32:30,412 --> 00:32:30,622
No,

1914
00:32:31,282 --> 00:32:31,822
really

1915
00:32:32,148 --> 00:32:32,328
an

1916
00:32:32,332 --> 00:32:33,562
absolutely astonishing,

1917
00:32:34,188 --> 00:32:34,338
the

1918
00:32:34,342 --> 00:32:37,462
leaders of the two world superpowers
and no communica, nothing.

1919
00:32:37,462 --> 00:32:38,812
He got nothing out of that deal.

1920
00:32:38,902 --> 00:32:39,082
But

1921
00:32:39,082 --> 00:32:39,682
he saw

1922
00:32:39,797 --> 00:32:40,247
really

1923
00:32:40,548 --> 00:32:40,878
hall,

1924
00:32:42,412 --> 00:32:43,132
the People's Hall

1925
00:32:43,132 --> 00:32:43,912
in China and he thought,

1926
00:32:44,032 --> 00:32:44,452
that's

1927
00:32:44,452 --> 00:32:46,192
bigger than my hall.

1928
00:32:47,182 --> 00:32:48,472
Not hall of money, which

1929
00:32:48,587 --> 00:32:48,647
is.

1930
00:32:49,522 --> 00:32:49,732
But

1931
00:32:50,268 --> 00:32:50,418
and

1932
00:32:50,422 --> 00:32:51,652
then he goes home and

1933
00:32:51,652 --> 00:32:52,072
he talks

1934
00:32:52,072 --> 00:32:53,092
about the ballroom again.

1935
00:32:53,178 --> 00:32:53,418
Yeah.

1936
00:32:53,418 --> 00:32:53,508
He

1937
00:32:53,537 --> 00:32:53,717
loves

1938
00:32:54,318 --> 00:32:54,948
He loves the

1939
00:32:54,952 --> 00:32:55,402
ballroom.

1940
00:32:56,478 --> 00:32:57,138
It's Greek,

1941
00:32:57,142 --> 00:32:59,092
Coro Vegas.

1942
00:33:00,108 --> 00:33:00,498
Sounds like

1943
00:33:00,677 --> 00:33:00,917
Greek

1944
00:33:01,252 --> 00:33:01,642
wrestling.

1945
00:33:02,247 --> 00:33:02,482
But I do

1946
00:33:02,482 --> 00:33:04,642
hope they have him interred
like Lenin in the ballroom

1947
00:33:04,817 --> 00:33:05,087
day.

1948
00:33:05,302 --> 00:33:06,202
Can it be soon?

1949
00:33:08,747 --> 00:33:08,807
it

1950
00:33:08,842 --> 00:33:09,862
was fitting tribute

1951
00:33:10,206 --> 00:33:13,296
we should, we should go to questions
shortly 'cause we are, we're running

1952
00:33:13,416 --> 00:33:14,556
reasonably low on time.

1953
00:33:15,156 --> 00:33:16,176
so I think

1954
00:33:16,956 --> 00:33:17,136
there

1955
00:33:17,136 --> 00:33:17,496
are, gonna be

1956
00:33:17,788 --> 00:33:18,418
paddles,

1957
00:33:18,895 --> 00:33:19,375
going around

1958
00:33:19,378 --> 00:33:19,948
the room and

1959
00:33:19,956 --> 00:33:20,256
once I

1960
00:33:20,256 --> 00:33:20,946
see a paddle,

1961
00:33:21,118 --> 00:33:21,688
I'll shout out

1962
00:33:21,696 --> 00:33:22,626
the number attached to it.

1963
00:33:22,656 --> 00:33:22,956
Number

1964
00:33:22,956 --> 00:33:23,286
one.

1965
00:33:23,286 --> 00:33:23,736
Hello.

1966
00:33:24,015 --> 00:33:24,365
Hello.

1967
00:33:24,365 --> 00:33:24,825
Hello there.

1968
00:33:25,185 --> 00:33:26,115
I'm very glad you put

1969
00:33:26,115 --> 00:33:28,815
the cartoons double
page 'cause I was losing

1970
00:33:28,815 --> 00:33:29,295
faith.

1971
00:33:29,580 --> 00:33:31,815
I, I couldn't read the serious
stuff for quite a while,

1972
00:33:31,815 --> 00:33:32,145
so it was

1973
00:33:32,145 --> 00:33:33,075
only the cartoons that

1974
00:33:33,251 --> 00:33:33,341
me

1975
00:33:33,345 --> 00:33:34,185
a subscriber.

1976
00:33:34,545 --> 00:33:35,115
Excellent.

1977
00:33:35,175 --> 00:33:35,415
But

1978
00:33:35,415 --> 00:33:40,155
what do we do when we get our own
bonkers loony in, in Parliament and

1979
00:33:40,455 --> 00:33:41,805
in the head of the executive in this

1980
00:33:41,805 --> 00:33:42,375
country?

1981
00:33:43,001 --> 00:33:43,301
Will you

1982
00:33:43,335 --> 00:33:44,715
need to go weekly?

1983
00:33:46,976 --> 00:33:47,711
I think we turfed her

1984
00:33:47,715 --> 00:33:48,525
out after 49

1985
00:33:48,525 --> 00:33:48,855
days.

1986
00:33:51,940 --> 00:33:52,160
Hey.

1987
00:33:56,719 --> 00:33:58,159
No, I, think

1988
00:33:58,159 --> 00:33:58,699
seriously,

1989
00:33:58,995 --> 00:33:59,205
we,

1990
00:33:59,205 --> 00:34:00,105
just emulate the

1991
00:34:00,139 --> 00:34:00,979
American media.

1992
00:34:00,979 --> 00:34:02,029
We roll over,

1993
00:34:03,195 --> 00:34:03,495
sell

1994
00:34:03,495 --> 00:34:03,735
out

1995
00:34:03,739 --> 00:34:06,679
to anybody with some money,
sack the cartoonists,

1996
00:34:06,679 --> 00:34:08,119
and, retire.

1997
00:34:08,805 --> 00:34:09,075
'
cause

1998
00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:11,479
American journalism at its finest.

1999
00:34:12,349 --> 00:34:12,679
Good.

2000
00:34:12,739 --> 00:34:13,129
There we go.

2001
00:34:14,955 --> 00:34:15,075
I

2002
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:15,409
saw a

2003
00:34:15,439 --> 00:34:16,459
number four over here.

2004
00:34:16,789 --> 00:34:16,999
Oh.

2005
00:34:17,659 --> 00:34:19,009
how come my dad hasn't won

2006
00:34:19,009 --> 00:34:20,239
the private eye crossword

2007
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:20,599
yet?

2008
00:34:21,379 --> 00:34:21,409
Ooh.

2009
00:34:21,409 --> 00:34:21,979
Okay.

2010
00:34:23,055 --> 00:34:23,205
Now that,

2011
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:23,299
is

2012
00:34:23,299 --> 00:34:23,449
he

2013
00:34:23,449 --> 00:34:24,859
remembering to send his entry

2014
00:34:24,859 --> 00:34:25,039
in?

2015
00:34:26,895 --> 00:34:28,365
That's an important question

2016
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,909
because a lot of our readers
think that it's rigged.

2017
00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:32,539
Yeah.

2018
00:34:33,019 --> 00:34:33,139
they

2019
00:34:33,139 --> 00:34:33,739
think that some

2020
00:34:33,739 --> 00:34:34,699
of the names are not

2021
00:34:34,699 --> 00:34:35,209
genuine.

2022
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:38,089
And they are.

2023
00:34:38,569 --> 00:34:41,479
And the repeated winner from the last

2024
00:34:41,655 --> 00:34:42,045
week,

2025
00:34:42,109 --> 00:34:42,469
last

2026
00:34:42,469 --> 00:34:42,739
three

2027
00:34:42,739 --> 00:34:43,219
issues,

2028
00:34:44,505 --> 00:34:45,675
Mrs. Phyllis,

2029
00:34:45,739 --> 00:34:46,519
his Glock

2030
00:34:49,219 --> 00:34:49,459
really,

2031
00:34:51,529 --> 00:34:52,489
is a genuine

2032
00:34:52,489 --> 00:34:53,059
person

2033
00:34:53,629 --> 00:34:55,129
who is very good at

2034
00:34:55,129 --> 00:34:55,939
crosswords.

2035
00:34:56,955 --> 00:34:57,135
So

2036
00:34:57,139 --> 00:34:57,859
I hope I've made

2037
00:34:57,859 --> 00:34:58,099
that

2038
00:34:58,099 --> 00:34:58,519
clear.

2039
00:35:00,030 --> 00:35:00,320
Okay.

2040
00:35:00,349 --> 00:35:00,379
Okay.

2041
00:35:03,645 --> 00:35:04,185
that was wonderful.

2042
00:35:04,185 --> 00:35:04,365
Thank

2043
00:35:04,399 --> 00:35:04,999
you both for the

2044
00:35:05,475 --> 00:35:06,705
concision of the questions.

2045
00:35:06,705 --> 00:35:07,040
And Brian let's

2046
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:07,560
go to number two

2047
00:35:07,579 --> 00:35:08,449
two here, please.

2048
00:35:10,005 --> 00:35:10,185
you've

2049
00:35:10,189 --> 00:35:11,449
been disparaging

2050
00:35:11,449 --> 00:35:12,709
and scathing about

2051
00:35:13,099 --> 00:35:14,179
politicians.

2052
00:35:14,479 --> 00:35:14,929
Can you

2053
00:35:15,135 --> 00:35:15,975
cheer us up a bit?

2054
00:35:16,009 --> 00:35:17,449
Tell us British politicians

2055
00:35:17,595 --> 00:35:17,925
you

2056
00:35:17,989 --> 00:35:18,409
admire

2057
00:35:18,409 --> 00:35:19,519
and are doing a good job,

2058
00:35:19,579 --> 00:35:20,209
please.

2059
00:35:20,539 --> 00:35:21,649
Nice.

2060
00:35:21,739 --> 00:35:23,629
I don't want to end anyone's career.

2061
00:35:30,043 --> 00:35:31,003
I can name someone I

2062
00:35:31,007 --> 00:35:31,817
find quite in,

2063
00:35:32,263 --> 00:35:32,533
there's

2064
00:35:32,537 --> 00:35:32,807
a,

2065
00:35:33,287 --> 00:35:33,377
we

2066
00:35:33,377 --> 00:35:34,517
haven't spoken much about the Lib Dems.

2067
00:35:34,517 --> 00:35:35,327
There's there's

2068
00:35:35,327 --> 00:35:36,527
a politician,

2069
00:35:36,947 --> 00:35:37,157
who's

2070
00:35:37,483 --> 00:35:37,993
elected,

2071
00:35:38,983 --> 00:35:39,823
called Mike Martin,

2072
00:35:39,827 --> 00:35:40,037
who's

2073
00:35:40,213 --> 00:35:40,363
a lot

2074
00:35:40,603 --> 00:35:40,753
in the

2075
00:35:40,757 --> 00:35:41,747
Army and now he's,

2076
00:35:42,103 --> 00:35:43,453
he's campaigning a lot about water.

2077
00:35:43,487 --> 00:35:44,027
So he's,

2078
00:35:44,267 --> 00:35:44,987
he's interested in

2079
00:35:45,347 --> 00:35:45,677
third of the

2080
00:35:45,823 --> 00:35:46,273
stuff.

2081
00:35:47,233 --> 00:35:47,713
and,

2082
00:35:48,257 --> 00:35:49,037
the Lib Dems are filling

2083
00:35:49,037 --> 00:35:51,707
a funny space in British politics
in that they're not really

2084
00:35:52,483 --> 00:35:52,723
it

2085
00:35:52,723 --> 00:35:53,713
at moment,

2086
00:35:53,713 --> 00:35:55,273
but they're

2087
00:35:55,277 --> 00:35:55,817
potentially

2088
00:35:55,817 --> 00:35:56,837
filling that space.

2089
00:35:57,527 --> 00:35:57,707
And,

2090
00:35:57,707 --> 00:35:58,067
I think

2091
00:35:58,633 --> 00:35:58,903
they're

2092
00:35:59,327 --> 00:35:59,627
weirdly

2093
00:35:59,627 --> 00:36:00,407
filling a role that

2094
00:36:00,467 --> 00:36:01,397
the conservatives might

2095
00:36:01,483 --> 00:36:02,083
traditionally

2096
00:36:02,777 --> 00:36:03,647
when Kimmie Badnock was

2097
00:36:03,647 --> 00:36:05,087
trying to be, rude about the Lib Dems,

2098
00:36:05,173 --> 00:36:05,773
said, oh,

2099
00:36:05,923 --> 00:36:06,073
they're

2100
00:36:06,107 --> 00:36:06,527
may be good

2101
00:36:06,643 --> 00:36:06,943
fixing

2102
00:36:06,947 --> 00:36:07,337
the church

2103
00:36:07,337 --> 00:36:08,687
roof, but, they're not really good for

2104
00:36:08,713 --> 00:36:09,133
anything else.

2105
00:36:09,313 --> 00:36:09,853
Lots of people

2106
00:36:10,337 --> 00:36:11,057
really, want the church

2107
00:36:11,263 --> 00:36:11,593
fixed.

2108
00:36:11,653 --> 00:36:11,773
Yeah.

2109
00:36:11,773 --> 00:36:12,193
In fact,

2110
00:36:12,347 --> 00:36:13,877
fixing the roof is a metaphor

2111
00:36:14,053 --> 00:36:14,293
for

2112
00:36:14,863 --> 00:36:16,843
doing something valuable and doing

2113
00:36:16,847 --> 00:36:17,597
it in a timely

2114
00:36:17,597 --> 00:36:17,927
fashion.

2115
00:36:17,957 --> 00:36:18,467
So anyway,

2116
00:36:18,677 --> 00:36:18,827
and

2117
00:36:18,827 --> 00:36:21,107
Nooks and Corners, the
column that talks about

2118
00:36:21,403 --> 00:36:21,733
roofs

2119
00:36:21,733 --> 00:36:22,663
quite a lot falling

2120
00:36:22,667 --> 00:36:23,777
in, or we've set

2121
00:36:23,777 --> 00:36:24,437
on fire,

2122
00:36:24,493 --> 00:36:25,363
we are quite keen on.

2123
00:36:25,423 --> 00:36:25,663
Yeah.

2124
00:36:25,663 --> 00:36:25,933
Anyway,

2125
00:36:25,967 --> 00:36:26,717
sorry to Mike Martin

2126
00:36:26,983 --> 00:36:27,193
for

2127
00:36:27,193 --> 00:36:27,403
coming.

2128
00:36:27,403 --> 00:36:27,433
Oh,

2129
00:36:27,722 --> 00:36:28,307
Martin, held,

2130
00:36:28,697 --> 00:36:29,027
I think

2131
00:36:29,027 --> 00:36:30,677
the place to look is
the Select Committees,

2132
00:36:31,423 --> 00:36:34,003
actually that's you people
come into politics 'cause

2133
00:36:34,007 --> 00:36:35,507
they're interested in a specific subject.

2134
00:36:35,597 --> 00:36:37,067
They might not be massively ambitious in

2135
00:36:37,123 --> 00:36:37,393
sense

2136
00:36:37,427 --> 00:36:38,447
of they've always wanted to be in

2137
00:36:38,533 --> 00:36:38,983
cabinet.

2138
00:36:39,283 --> 00:36:39,403
But

2139
00:36:39,407 --> 00:36:39,707
actually, if

2140
00:36:39,707 --> 00:36:42,407
you look at the work that they're
doing, I think they, we talked about it

2141
00:36:42,407 --> 00:36:43,007
on the podcast

2142
00:36:43,007 --> 00:36:43,367
before.

2143
00:36:43,487 --> 00:36:43,697
Some

2144
00:36:43,697 --> 00:36:44,177
of the stuff that

2145
00:36:44,177 --> 00:36:44,957
they're doing in kind of terms

2146
00:36:44,957 --> 00:36:45,557
of scrutiny.

2147
00:36:45,887 --> 00:36:46,427
even things like,

2148
00:36:46,483 --> 00:36:47,173
you watch the post

2149
00:36:47,207 --> 00:36:49,817
office drama, you'll find that the mps
were very involved with that story.

2150
00:36:49,937 --> 00:36:52,697
There is still a lot of quite unsung work

2151
00:36:52,813 --> 00:36:53,053
gets

2152
00:36:53,057 --> 00:36:53,987
done below

2153
00:36:54,017 --> 00:36:54,827
the cabinet level.

2154
00:36:54,827 --> 00:36:55,247
I think.

2155
00:36:55,547 --> 00:36:56,177
Absolutely.

2156
00:36:56,447 --> 00:36:58,427
I would say David Davis, who,

2157
00:36:59,357 --> 00:36:59,957
tour, not

2158
00:36:59,957 --> 00:37:01,577
natural bedfellows, he

2159
00:37:01,753 --> 00:37:02,293
Brexit

2160
00:37:02,297 --> 00:37:03,977
ear, but his record on,

2161
00:37:04,513 --> 00:37:05,023
libertarian

2162
00:37:05,023 --> 00:37:06,133
issues, particularly the

2163
00:37:06,137 --> 00:37:09,227
post office and now on
Lucy Luby, he gets up,

2164
00:37:09,343 --> 00:37:10,723
makes himself unpopular.

2165
00:37:10,817 --> 00:37:12,527
He keeps the argument going.

2166
00:37:12,737 --> 00:37:13,127
There are

2167
00:37:13,513 --> 00:37:13,843
there.

2168
00:37:14,057 --> 00:37:14,597
Another,

2169
00:37:15,313 --> 00:37:15,643
Lord

2170
00:37:15,677 --> 00:37:16,037
Arbaugh,

2171
00:37:17,533 --> 00:37:18,193
who was mentioned

2172
00:37:18,197 --> 00:37:21,767
earlier in, in one of the sessions I
went to Member of the House and Lords who

2173
00:37:22,183 --> 00:37:23,113
that story all the

2174
00:37:23,117 --> 00:37:23,507
way.

2175
00:37:24,227 --> 00:37:24,677
the post

2176
00:37:24,883 --> 00:37:25,243
story,

2177
00:37:25,273 --> 00:37:26,143
I'm absolutely

2178
00:37:26,327 --> 00:37:26,687
fantastic.

2179
00:37:26,807 --> 00:37:27,827
So yes, there

2180
00:37:27,827 --> 00:37:28,727
are, but I try not

2181
00:37:28,813 --> 00:37:29,773
mention them too often.

2182
00:37:30,173 --> 00:37:30,463
it

2183
00:37:30,497 --> 00:37:30,917
ends

2184
00:37:31,063 --> 00:37:31,483
lives.

2185
00:37:34,753 --> 00:37:35,143
terrific.

2186
00:37:35,143 --> 00:37:35,533
Shall we,

2187
00:37:35,773 --> 00:37:35,983
should

2188
00:37:36,257 --> 00:37:36,767
to another,

2189
00:37:36,767 --> 00:37:37,547
I'm seeing

2190
00:37:37,967 --> 00:37:38,117
there's

2191
00:37:38,353 --> 00:37:38,683
three,

2192
00:37:38,687 --> 00:37:38,697
right?

2193
00:37:39,617 --> 00:37:40,157
Anyway, any advance.

2194
00:37:40,157 --> 00:37:41,357
in advance on 25 pounds, please

2195
00:37:41,443 --> 00:37:42,343
this wonderful

2196
00:37:42,828 --> 00:37:43,208
bag of

2197
00:37:43,277 --> 00:37:44,117
NECA Gold?

2198
00:37:44,177 --> 00:37:44,507
Yes.

2199
00:37:44,627 --> 00:37:45,467
let's go to number three.

2200
00:37:45,467 --> 00:37:45,887
Thank you.

2201
00:37:46,127 --> 00:37:49,247
Do you think Mr. Trump
will cancel the midterms

2202
00:37:50,683 --> 00:37:51,343
and do

2203
00:37:51,347 --> 00:37:53,807
you think Nicola Sturgeon will

2204
00:37:53,807 --> 00:37:56,147
cancel her visit to Hay

2205
00:37:56,207 --> 00:37:57,227
on Friday?

2206
00:37:57,343 --> 00:37:57,463
Oh,

2207
00:37:59,773 --> 00:38:00,073
because

2208
00:38:00,107 --> 00:38:01,847
she's running in the midterms.

2209
00:38:03,733 --> 00:38:03,763
I

2210
00:38:03,767 --> 00:38:06,197
think she's gonna set up
in a massive camper Van.

2211
00:38:06,407 --> 00:38:07,037
Yeah.

2212
00:38:07,037 --> 00:38:07,157
With a

2213
00:38:07,157 --> 00:38:07,397
load of

2214
00:38:07,397 --> 00:38:08,777
coffee machines in the back.

2215
00:38:10,213 --> 00:38:10,363
Not

2216
00:38:10,367 --> 00:38:10,607
right.

2217
00:38:15,216 --> 00:38:15,436
And

2218
00:38:15,441 --> 00:38:16,551
the midterm, the midterms,

2219
00:38:16,731 --> 00:38:16,911
to

2220
00:38:16,937 --> 00:38:17,507
say briefly,

2221
00:38:17,511 --> 00:38:17,991
I think

2222
00:38:17,991 --> 00:38:18,651
he will try

2223
00:38:18,651 --> 00:38:19,461
and do a number of things

2224
00:38:19,577 --> 00:38:20,207
are below

2225
00:38:20,211 --> 00:38:20,721
that level.

2226
00:38:20,721 --> 00:38:20,901
So

2227
00:38:20,901 --> 00:38:21,801
already the Supreme

2228
00:38:21,801 --> 00:38:23,451
Court has, overturned quite a few bits

2229
00:38:23,507 --> 00:38:24,947
the Voting Rights Act, which is

2230
00:38:24,951 --> 00:38:27,591
one of the things that guaranteed
minority representation all

2231
00:38:27,591 --> 00:38:28,671
the way through this year.

2232
00:38:28,881 --> 00:38:29,661
The Republicans

2233
00:38:29,717 --> 00:38:30,167
Democrats have

2234
00:38:30,287 --> 00:38:30,587
fighting

2235
00:38:30,591 --> 00:38:33,291
about gerrymandering, essentially
to create lots more districts

2236
00:38:33,347 --> 00:38:33,767
themselves.

2237
00:38:33,917 --> 00:38:34,547
The Republicans

2238
00:38:34,551 --> 00:38:35,571
are currently winning

2239
00:38:35,571 --> 00:38:36,171
that war.

2240
00:38:36,351 --> 00:38:36,561
They,

2241
00:38:36,891 --> 00:38:39,201
are lots of state houses
that have flipped to

2242
00:38:39,201 --> 00:38:40,311
many more kind

2243
00:38:40,397 --> 00:38:41,027
major like

2244
00:38:41,031 --> 00:38:42,441
Republican friendly districts.

2245
00:38:42,621 --> 00:38:43,341
So whilst I

2246
00:38:43,341 --> 00:38:45,591
think that the splashy headline
thing of him essentially

2247
00:38:45,591 --> 00:38:47,931
declaring martial law in
himself, supreme dictator

2248
00:38:48,017 --> 00:38:48,377
life,

2249
00:38:48,651 --> 00:38:52,881
I'm not ruling it out, but I dunno if
he's necessarily got the attention span

2250
00:38:52,937 --> 00:38:53,387
be supreme

2251
00:38:53,391 --> 00:38:53,751
dictator

2252
00:38:53,837 --> 00:38:54,077
life.

2253
00:38:54,887 --> 00:38:55,067
but

2254
00:38:55,071 --> 00:38:55,431
I think there

2255
00:38:55,431 --> 00:38:57,381
are lots of fundamentally anti-democratic

2256
00:38:57,587 --> 00:38:58,067
happening in,

2257
00:38:58,221 --> 00:38:59,061
in America Yeah.

2258
00:38:59,087 --> 00:39:00,047
That we should be, that we should be

2259
00:39:00,051 --> 00:39:00,591
worried about.

2260
00:39:00,647 --> 00:39:00,767
Yeah.

2261
00:39:00,767 --> 00:39:00,797
Okay.

2262
00:39:01,282 --> 00:39:01,522
I just

2263
00:39:01,531 --> 00:39:02,971
wondered if you had any thoughts

2264
00:39:02,971 --> 00:39:03,511
about what

2265
00:39:03,511 --> 00:39:04,261
the Iranians

2266
00:39:04,261 --> 00:39:06,061
are doing with their Lego videos

2267
00:39:06,292 --> 00:39:07,012
having a go at

2268
00:39:07,021 --> 00:39:07,441
Trump.

2269
00:39:10,291 --> 00:39:12,121
unfortunately they're, really

2270
00:39:12,717 --> 00:39:12,937
And

2271
00:39:13,196 --> 00:39:13,316
I,

2272
00:39:14,121 --> 00:39:14,481
no, and I

2273
00:39:14,521 --> 00:39:15,061
don't mean that in a

2274
00:39:15,082 --> 00:39:15,712
moral sense.

2275
00:39:15,712 --> 00:39:17,092
They're verily antisemitic,

2276
00:39:17,241 --> 00:39:17,331
in

2277
00:39:17,341 --> 00:39:22,411
terms of the much up there with Kanye
West, actually the te at a technical

2278
00:39:22,411 --> 00:39:23,701
craft level, they're excellent.

2279
00:39:24,061 --> 00:39:26,551
And I think it's one of the things
that's really interesting is that I'm not

2280
00:39:26,872 --> 00:39:27,202
that

2281
00:39:27,202 --> 00:39:27,382
the

2282
00:39:27,391 --> 00:39:29,311
American establishment
has quite got a grip

2283
00:39:29,311 --> 00:39:30,841
on the fact that actually

2284
00:39:30,982 --> 00:39:31,192
on

2285
00:39:31,201 --> 00:39:32,341
social media,

2286
00:39:32,992 --> 00:39:33,442
Israel is

2287
00:39:33,451 --> 00:39:33,661
very

2288
00:39:33,661 --> 00:39:34,231
unpopular.

2289
00:39:34,231 --> 00:39:34,471
Young

2290
00:39:34,471 --> 00:39:35,101
people are being

2291
00:39:35,101 --> 00:39:35,191
and

2292
00:39:35,241 --> 00:39:35,421
same

2293
00:39:35,421 --> 00:39:35,481
way.

2294
00:39:35,481 --> 00:39:35,751
We talk

2295
00:39:35,761 --> 00:39:36,211
about older

2296
00:39:36,472 --> 00:39:36,772
being,

2297
00:39:37,252 --> 00:39:38,902
maybe on Facebook deluge

2298
00:39:38,911 --> 00:39:39,901
with anti-immigrant videos.

2299
00:39:40,021 --> 00:39:41,161
So anybody under the age

2300
00:39:41,161 --> 00:39:42,511
of 25, their stream is

2301
00:39:42,511 --> 00:39:42,721
just

2302
00:39:42,721 --> 00:39:43,891
a huge amount of stuff.

2303
00:39:44,191 --> 00:39:45,001
And so there are people

2304
00:39:45,001 --> 00:39:47,551
in both the establishment wings
of Republicans and Democrats who

2305
00:39:47,551 --> 00:39:49,231
just take that alliance Absolutely.

2306
00:39:49,231 --> 00:39:49,891
For granted.

2307
00:39:50,101 --> 00:39:51,391
And actually generationally, I

2308
00:39:51,532 --> 00:39:51,682
it's

2309
00:39:51,691 --> 00:39:52,291
really gonna,

2310
00:39:52,321 --> 00:39:53,011
that's really going to

2311
00:39:53,241 --> 00:39:53,421
over.

2312
00:39:53,431 --> 00:39:53,521
It's,

2313
00:39:53,581 --> 00:39:54,661
you are already seeing the effects

2314
00:39:54,661 --> 00:39:54,961
of that

2315
00:39:55,132 --> 00:39:56,092
in American politics.

2316
00:39:56,302 --> 00:39:56,482
And

2317
00:39:56,491 --> 00:39:59,281
those Iranian propaganda
videos are absolutely part

2318
00:39:59,281 --> 00:39:59,521
of it.

2319
00:39:59,551 --> 00:40:01,261
They're incredibly,
don't sing it 'cause it

2320
00:40:01,261 --> 00:40:02,251
is incredibly catchy.

2321
00:40:02,701 --> 00:40:03,601
And you will be singing it

2322
00:40:03,601 --> 00:40:04,171
forever and

2323
00:40:04,372 --> 00:40:04,732
but

2324
00:40:05,041 --> 00:40:08,101
they are, as I say, they preach, it's all

2325
00:40:08,101 --> 00:40:09,001
Epstein, it's

2326
00:40:09,001 --> 00:40:11,521
all, antisemitic conspiracy

2327
00:40:11,661 --> 00:40:12,171
money,

2328
00:40:12,421 --> 00:40:13,921
but it is also packaged in this

2329
00:40:13,921 --> 00:40:17,161
way that is very Gen Z coded.

2330
00:40:17,311 --> 00:40:17,941
And also,

2331
00:40:18,481 --> 00:40:20,761
the technology, they're displaying a sense

2332
00:40:20,812 --> 00:40:21,142
humour

2333
00:40:21,151 --> 00:40:21,331
and the

2334
00:40:21,331 --> 00:40:22,651
thing you want with your,

2335
00:40:23,581 --> 00:40:24,061
deeply

2336
00:40:24,061 --> 00:40:26,221
unpleasant, murderous

2337
00:40:26,221 --> 00:40:26,701
enemy

2338
00:40:26,941 --> 00:40:27,601
is not

2339
00:40:27,601 --> 00:40:29,161
for them to be funnier than you.

2340
00:40:31,471 --> 00:40:32,101
Yeah.

2341
00:40:32,101 --> 00:40:32,111
Always

2342
00:40:32,111 --> 00:40:32,131
It's the,

2343
00:40:32,191 --> 00:40:33,241
it's there room on the joke

2344
00:40:33,241 --> 00:40:33,991
writing team

2345
00:40:34,161 --> 00:40:34,311
the

2346
00:40:34,321 --> 00:40:34,381
Yeah.

2347
00:40:34,651 --> 00:40:35,701
IRGC.

2348
00:40:35,761 --> 00:40:36,031
Yeah.

2349
00:40:36,421 --> 00:40:36,691
Oh yes.

2350
00:40:37,282 --> 00:40:37,462
Okay.

2351
00:40:37,642 --> 00:40:37,822
We're

2352
00:40:37,851 --> 00:40:38,811
in absolute injury

2353
00:40:38,812 --> 00:40:38,962
time.

2354
00:40:38,962 --> 00:40:39,382
Let's have one

2355
00:40:39,592 --> 00:40:39,832
very

2356
00:40:39,841 --> 00:40:40,501
final one and

2357
00:40:40,501 --> 00:40:40,951
briefly, if

2358
00:40:41,032 --> 00:40:41,872
wouldn't mind number two.

2359
00:40:42,202 --> 00:40:42,442
Yeah.

2360
00:40:42,502 --> 00:40:43,642
What's the food like?

2361
00:40:43,642 --> 00:40:43,702
Are

2362
00:40:43,741 --> 00:40:44,671
the kitchen horses

2363
00:40:44,752 --> 00:40:44,902
do you

2364
00:40:44,911 --> 00:40:45,691
go somewhere else for

2365
00:40:45,691 --> 00:40:46,231
lunch now?

2366
00:40:46,741 --> 00:40:47,311
it was,

2367
00:40:47,401 --> 00:40:48,241
we've moved

2368
00:40:48,571 --> 00:40:49,591
due to a number

2369
00:40:49,611 --> 00:40:50,481
of incidents,

2370
00:40:53,512 --> 00:40:53,692
and

2371
00:40:54,751 --> 00:40:59,161
we've now, got a, much,
much more, tolerant,

2372
00:41:00,922 --> 00:41:01,912
lunch venue

2373
00:41:02,101 --> 00:41:03,571
who only complain

2374
00:41:03,862 --> 00:41:04,162
if

2375
00:41:04,171 --> 00:41:04,831
some of our

2376
00:41:04,831 --> 00:41:07,711
guests, for reasons that I don't
want to explain, get locked

2377
00:41:08,211 --> 00:41:08,271
the

2378
00:41:08,281 --> 00:41:11,191
toilet for hours together

2379
00:41:11,311 --> 00:41:11,641
and on.

2380
00:41:11,731 --> 00:41:12,211
I'll leave you

2381
00:41:12,211 --> 00:41:12,931
with that thought.

2382
00:41:12,931 --> 00:41:13,291
On that

2383
00:41:13,291 --> 00:41:13,771
note.

2384
00:41:13,771 --> 00:41:14,761
I think we're ending

2385
00:41:14,781 --> 00:41:14,871
as

2386
00:41:14,872 --> 00:41:14,962
we

2387
00:41:14,971 --> 00:41:15,421
started

2388
00:41:15,921 --> 00:41:16,191
Ally.

2389
00:41:16,251 --> 00:41:16,431
And

2390
00:41:16,441 --> 00:41:16,561
it

2391
00:41:16,642 --> 00:41:17,572
only remains for me

2392
00:41:18,469 --> 00:41:19,159
Before you go,

2393
00:41:19,333 --> 00:41:19,453
I

2394
00:41:19,453 --> 00:41:20,083
just say

2395
00:41:20,209 --> 00:41:20,599
a round

2396
00:41:20,713 --> 00:41:21,943
applause for these amazing

2397
00:41:21,943 --> 00:41:22,693
contributors?

2398
00:41:24,913 --> 00:41:25,153
How about

2399
00:41:25,153 --> 00:41:25,723
you?