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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey everybody, JJ Cooper Josh Norse, Ian Cuddle based on America Prospect podcast and it's a big one again this week because as we do every month we have a new top 100 update live on the site.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We hold off a little bit on the podcast side of when we put this up for upload so we don't scoop ourselves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But check it out over at BaseballNouric.com, new update is every month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing I will start with and I'll kind of throw out to both of you guys too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, as we had our meeting this month about this, obviously we did our, we did an update last month, then we did a top 30 update, now we're back to in a top 100 update.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've did feel like that this one while still consequential.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not like we moved a couple of guys and we moved a couple of graduates.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I would say that it did feel not as significant as last month from a standpoint of like, I felt like there's less like pop up guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's less guys where it's like, oh, we don't have that guy in the 100.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We gotta get those guys on that guy on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ian, it struck me that more of those guys were the guys that we got on last month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I completely agree on it and I think it chose because last month's update was more or less taking into account all spring training and the offseason work the players put in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Whereas this month to me was more about kind of reinforcing the guys that we yet conviction on heading in the last month and we added and kind of adjusting their rankings to better reflect what they've turned into.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, because you think about, you know, last month, you don't want to go overboard on guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a month, five weeks into the regular season, guys don't even have us just statistically significant number of bats in terms of any sort of underlying data.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're just kind of waiting for that stuff to normalize, get them up to enough, enough bat of all of that and get them to enough games played appearances where we can have more stronger opinions on that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's what we've reached this month is that

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, guys that we like that were risers last month, now we're putting them in the level where they actually belong, whereas last month we wanted to be patient.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't want to overreact and, you know, jump to someone up to only yo yo them back down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd rather, you know, be a little more cautious and initially get gather more information, you know, talk to more source is go have guys go out and see them in the field.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then better reflect what the actual, you know, industry, um, feel is about certain players.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's what we've got new this month with with some of the corrections or some of the guys, especially with the guys moving up this month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Josh, it also kind of strikes me that like I feel good about this is that a lot of the guys that we did move on like he and said we're moving up again this month because thankfully the guys who really kind of felt like that they were emerging in the early going have taken further steps right like an Eric Hartman or like a Devon Fitzgerald those are guys who really we thankfully we haven't just put them on and then right away on oh wait maybe we were too to hate steep here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, there hasn't been a whole lot of yoyoing and it's, it's kind of reinforced the idea that some of these breakouts in the early, you know, we've had a month.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our real and these guys, there's going to be some guys that have, you know, quote unquote like 50 spot jumps who are guys that just, you know, got in and now we've placed them in the appropriate spot because that's everybody I think who follows BA knows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: when we add a guy in season for a graduate, they go to 100, even though sometimes they might be better than 100.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For example, you know, I don't think we've already added him, but Carson Millbrandt was at like, he like at 99 on the site right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not the 99th best prospect in baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: now wait and see where he's going to be on this list, but he's he's taken the the mantle from the fall and Robbie Robbie's nowing as the best healthy pitching prospect in the marvelous presentation that that's kind of the the market correction you're seeing with some of these guys and to that other end we're talking about some of the guys that we jumped up really high from spring who I jumped up a little further this update who have vaulted into the truly elite

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where I would say we are now at the point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So to just kind of lay it out before we dive into kind of, we're going to really kind of cover some of the key significant moves up and move down, but explain them to you what we were kind of looking at and thinking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I will say with that, like, if you're just, if we set it last month, but it really is true, we are getting to the most fallow period of the year for the top hundred, because at this point,

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[SPEAKER_00]: everyone who started the year and the big leagues has graduated basically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you were been up from the start of the year, you are graduated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only way you are not is if you were sit back down or you're on the aisle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you've all got those guys have all graduated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Connor Griffins, the Kevin McGonaglass, the JJ weatherholds are no longer here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now we've almost had a second wave of guys who have graduated or in the cases of like a Travis Besana are going to graduate shortly after this update.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we've got that group leaving out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thankfully, we've had guys who really have a merge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We covered a couple of them right there with the Heartman's and the Fitzgeralds and all who've moved on, Carson Millbrand, and guys like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're not yet at the point where we're adding draftees, that's still another top hundred update away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will update in July, and the drafts still won't be here yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're also

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will start having more I would say and this I'll go back to you Josh because you're getting ready to go out there and all but we'll start to have more complexly guys I think kind of fit into this makes a little bit also once we're kind of getting to the point where the ACL and FCL seasons are have enough kind of runway on them not that it's going to be a ton of guys moving in the 100 but there might be a couple more names that come up that way with their

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, and, you know, oddly enough, like I'm writing this risers followers piece right now that you'll see probably by kind of listening to this podcast and the theme is like, hey, this guy should have been in the FCL or ACL, but they skipped him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: jump to the ACL.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The DSL, those guys would have been high on my hypothetical ACL FCL list, but instead they're in low-way and in hard-chorns case, high-A and killing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those guys are there, but for example, a guy that I was hoping to see,

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[SPEAKER_01]: This next week when I'm in Arizona is dealing living with the with the Diamondbacks who was I just look at how many things he got, but he will probably rank as the leagues best pitching prospect when that league comes that one that this comes out in a couple months same idea was Caleb wing who I got is going to have enough things to qualify but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You heard scouts raving about him down there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was our hot sheet helium guy this past week, and he's come up to a little beach and kind of bully people for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, you're going to start to see guys pop up down there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really interesting ones, and I'll you'll see some content from me over the next couple of weeks when I'm in Arizona and Florida kind of pointing out the best ones I can find.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay, we're gonna dive straight in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a group of guys who have really risen up this month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not a comprehensive list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Check out Josh's piece at baseballamerica.com.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Check out, we also, every time we try to be very transparent with it, we also have a piece that I put together that shows every single move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we take it from last month at this time to now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if a guy was added in in, he's gonna be an ad this month,

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we show everyone and like this prior move up three spots, this player moved down eight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever, we do that for every single player in an and we do it for every time we do this update.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we are trying to very much lay out for you kind of have the movement happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But here are some of the players at the top of the top 100 who moved up and we'll explain a little bit why in each case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Ian, I'll start off with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Franklin areas has been moving up every time we've done this this year I would say like I feel like he moved up and then he moved up again and now he's moved up again but now he is in rarefied air he's moved up nine spots which if you're at the back of the list and he moved up nine spots that could be almost just like

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[SPEAKER_00]: by house cleaning standards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a couple of guys got hurt, you moved above them all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you move up nine spots at the top of the list, two number four on the list, that is a very conscious, very, we talked about it a good bit in the top hundred meeting kind of conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why has areas continue to move up?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now like really cold Emerson again is another one is guys going to graduate This guy is going to be a top three prospect before too long Probably in the next update around the next update time because Emerson's not graduating any next week or two, but on top of that

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're all short stops at the top of the list, which is we're always happy with that seeing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what is it our areas that's kind of moved him into that top here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll guess I'll ask one other question first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The starting question will be, or is he in a second tier behind the Hayesus medaise and the Leo de Vries and the Cold Emerson to put?

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[SPEAKER_02]: For me, he's in this second tier.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's the start of that next tier.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the reasoning is just, I think the long-term projection he just doesn't have that same projectability as Maude de Briezdo is especially.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not very big, five, nine, five, 10.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think what we've seen from him is just a continuation of what he showed in the month of April.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's hitting continuing it for power.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I saw him hit three home runs this this past week when I was up in a couple of East of season when I was up in Portland, one of them was a really impressive swing, you know, to gauge wood, 95 miles an hour up in the zone and drove a dead center field.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's just done a really good job of kind of blending his hit tool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The hitting ability he already had with now getting to more power and he's improved his launch angle, he's improved his eggs of velocities, he's added bad speed, he's gotten a stronger.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And when you add all those things to the rest of his profile, which is a potential, you know, above average defender is shortstop with a solid arm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a really good player and I don't know if his ceiling is as high as some of those other guys because he does have, you know, he's not a big runner, he's limited physically by size, but the same time just he's really really good feel for contact and he's now got into power and when you find you know, you combine all that with the secondary skills to guy who belongs, you know, not in that elite tier yet, but you know, just right in that next tier right below it, there's just just a lot to like from the Red Sox prospects or this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay, Josh, probably I would say most significant move in the top 10 is we have Ryan Sloan moving the Mariners right hand or moving to number seven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I say most significant because that also makes him now our top pitching prospect in the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And,

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a fun debate as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's another mariner in that conversation and there's Pirates, Kate Anderson, and there's also Pirates' right-handers, Sephranandas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've been a Sloan guy for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You identified him a long time ago as a guy to watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just keep climbing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But could you lay out to people what it was that why we have Sloan number one of this group?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And especially I think that there may be a lot of listeners of viewers who think, wait, why Sephranandas, not your number one pitching prospect?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I think Sloan is the best pitching prospect in the game, and I do not think it's particularly close.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, for example, Sloan right now has the same amount of hi A starts as Seth Hernandez has notably Seth Ryan Sloan is in double a right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a little bit older than Seth and he is just come off an absolutely fantastic month at that level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has everything you could ask for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is physical.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He goes right after hitters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has three different kinds of fastballs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has a cutter, he has a slider, he has a changeup, he has multiple ways to attack hitters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He knows how to command his mix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, you know, thriving right now after a little bit of an adjustment period in a very hitter friendly league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard for me to poke holes in this guy's game right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wrote a piece,

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[SPEAKER_01]: earlier in the year where, you know, I mentioned that I would kind of regretted not putting him the guy who could be in the big league this year, I think he could be in the big league this year, like he's just filthy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do want to point out, like as great as Hernandez's stuff is, I would say gone throwing this back to you, Josh, when you look at the quality of Sloan's

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[SPEAKER_00]: really, really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, there's kind of not that he can't develop it, but slones the quality of those pitches, I would say is a notch above Sephrane and this is this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that a fair way to put it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's I mean, I just saw Sephrane and his last turn and his fastball is what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He needs to command it better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His change up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He went through an entire inning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was the third inning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did through nothing but changeups and they couldn't do anything with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sloan doesn't have that many promises.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His slider is incredible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His cutter is a great way to get, you know, called strikes on the arm side of the plate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has like all those three different fastballs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His mix is more mature than Seth's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not trying to down Seth for

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[SPEAKER_01]: there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not to be unexpected for a guy at his first pro year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, when we did our little tears, I put the phone at the top with absolutely no second thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the next guy on this list of big moves up is, I would say, this is what we're with Padres, Ketra, Ethan Salus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is exactly what we hope to see, which is a healthy Ethan Salus,

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[SPEAKER_00]: showing again why he has been considered one of the best catching prospects in the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Josh, like, what has stood out with South beyond health or their other aspects of it that have helped him kind of rise back up the hundred.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like he's another guy who again who's been steadily moving up every time we do an update.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I wouldn't say you're steady, like he jumped.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think 50 spots the first time we updated this list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We absolutely ramped him up there and

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I guess this isn't rocket science here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's also performing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still, I think he was the second youngest guy in the Texas League behind DeVries to begin the year and he's performing exactly how we expected he would when he signed a couple years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: it's why he moved down is easy to see back injuries are scary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look at a previous guy who rocketed up this little a catcher Diego Cartaya back injuries, among other things kind of derailed his career and I don't know if he's even employed right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he came back from it and he's hitting he's hitting for some power, he's stealing, he's developing even further behind the plate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that

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[SPEAKER_01]: San Antonio is there to help Salas further develop his is catching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's by design and he's doing everything you want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I wrote a piece a couple of weeks ago suggesting that once my day vanquishes the throne, he could be the number one prospect in the sport and I firmly believe that they'll have a case once my day graduates and maybe even sooner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have a couple of outfathers who want to get to two, but we're going to go to quick break and we right back right after this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Ian, we're back and I just want to lay out like I feel like if you said of the guys were highlighting with the graphic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're watching on the YouTube channel on the podcast, there's five players that we put in a graphic of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say that Theo Gill and the raise outfielder of all these players who were talking on this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: areas okay let me just lay it out this way right the other guys on this list that we've talked about already areas it was

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, the power's taken a step forward, but he was already a premium top 50 prospect coming into the year basically and he's taken another step.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan Sloan has been a guy that we've been talking about for multiple years as one of the best young pitching prospects in the minors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's taken more steps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ethan Salis was a top 10 prospect for us before who basically had injuries

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[SPEAKER_00]: Theo Gillin, as I say, is more of the kind of the guy who he really left on to the stage last year, but what is it that has made us feel so much, so you know, so much that we need to keep running him up to these top tier, that he's number 13 prospecting the game now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is in the elite tier as opposed to among the mass of really good prospects in the top of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, he's just someone I think it's he's translating the performance that kind of

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or the expectations, I would say that when he was an amateur coming out of the draft, and he's just doing it in a very young age at an extremely high level.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's someone he's had some injury issues.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I only placed 73 games last year, but he's got up to high bowl and green is a 21, as a 20 year old this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's slugging almost 600 with an OPS over a thousand.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he has more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He has almost twice as many home runs as he had last year, already this year in half as many games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's almost equaled his other extra based hit tools.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's just hitting for the power that it kind of hoped he would at some day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's happening way sooner, I think, than we even thought, he's got a good frame.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Beyond our line data with him is really, really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, there's not a lot of weaknesses in his game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It makes good swing decisions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He makes a ton of contact.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's hitting for power as EVs are well above average.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And when you combine all that with his ability to, it's a good glove.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He can really run.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a threat on the basis.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The only real weakness in his game right now is his arm strength.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Everything else, you know, and I think Josh is here at the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you talk to scouts who see that bowl and green team and the guy they want to talk about is the O'Gillan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because he just he just does everything on the field for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, he's someone who, you know, we had we had him the highest heading in the season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we was around 64th.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now, you know, he's moved up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's jumped several tiers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, as you said, he's now, you know, borderline, you know, one of the top two three outfield prospects and all the baseball and I think it's just just a reflection of the season he's had and and how, you know, the how confident we aren't his ability, because yeah, he's just a really talented baseball player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love how you said Josh, you know, he ain't kind of touched about it, but like it seems like you go to a ton of games and it seems like that anytime you've talked to anyone who's salty or gill and he's the first thing they bring up and yeah, I'll just read what I wrote here, which, you know, you see in the article, I said scouts across the country have been wound by gillin, whether he was on their plate to evaluate or someone who caught their eyes during cross coverage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of chapter and verse right now for what's been going on with that young man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just every time I, hey, who's been really impressed with you, Theo Gillith, Theo Gillith, Theo Gillith, I'll wipe you out about the rest of the bull and green team for Montgomery team at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it's really not the club I covered, but I had to point him out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the other guy that we're going to pilot here among the top guys who moved in that top tier is Mike's road dodgered out that are Mike Sorota.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing I want to lay

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[SPEAKER_00]: In trending corporate is every piece of information we can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the things that jumped out is, is if you look at his underlying analytical data, there are a lot of different ways that hitters can perform, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's hitting for power.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You see that again, analytically in 90th percentile EV, max EV, average EV, things like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You look at swing decisions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can look at things like, okay, how much do you chase out of the zone,

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[SPEAKER_00]: versus how often you swing it pitches in the zone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you can look at things like your contact rate, your ability to make contact in general, and also your ability to make contact, especially on pitches in the zone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you're missing a lot of pitches in the zone that you're swinging at, those are in many ways hitable pitches that you're missing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got all these aspects of it, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike Sorota is doing every

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[SPEAKER_00]: every one of those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, oh, but we also look at ground ball and line drive rate and fly ball rate, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're hitting a ton of ground balls, that is going to very much limit what you can do in some ways, because the best ground ball that you hit is often going to be a single, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas if you hit it in the line, it's a double or a triple, or it could be a Homer and fly ball, you know, hit a

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have well, it's a Homer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike's probably doing all of those things well, and I think Josh, another key aspect of this is, he's now doing it in AA as opposed to when we were talking about him coming into the year, coming off of a significant knee injury, but as a college hitter who had done it in A-ball, it's a big difference now these added that level to it, is he not?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he would be, would have started the year much higher if he hadn't had that, you know, pretty serious knee injury right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all this left of that knee injury right now is the scar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Performing exactly how he did that open scout size and great lakes last year and he moved, you know, we had a pretty big argument in slack over whether or not he should move up to double a and he moved up like I don't know three hours later, which was pretty funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, the the whole created for him was made a little easier by what happened to Kendall George out there, but now he's got an avenue toward regular playing time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's performing, you know, that we've said it many times many ways the Dodgers outfield group right now is absolutely obscene.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it will come into play here in about six weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will note with that we'd another piece up at baseball america.com put up yesterday is I try to look every month that kind of how organizations are performing looking at kind of hitting metrics as an organization in the minors wins and losses run differential pitching metrics and then the age at which they're doing them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Dodgers are above average across the minors, full season minors, in every aspect you can look at as far as strikeout rate for offense for hitters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Strikeout rate, rock rate, walk rate, batting average, isolated power, you know, everything you can look at, they're at least strikeout rates the one thing they're average at, everything else they're above average at, partly because of that incredible outfield group.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, before we move on to

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do want to kind of throw out to you guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyone else that jumped out to you, Josh, I'll start with you like you mentioned a Carson Millbrand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that that's probably one that we should touch on with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Carson Millbrand made it onto the list last month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, we saw him on the hot sheet show, which was a fun interview.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is now up to 54 on the list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've kind of like, is that a guy who stands out to you, or I don't want to, I can't, I was gonna bring out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll talk about Millbrand and then I'll kick it to you for another one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll just say with Millbrand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Having the best year, I would say across the minor leagues as far as pictures this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are a couple of guys also that another guy who's on the back of this list who we're not gonna talk about, you can check out at baseball america.com.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Blue J's pitcher who's having a great year too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I would say, Millbrands doing that, but it's not just that he's performing, it's also the quality of the stuff, it's also the quality of the strike throwing, all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Josh, that's mine, who's yours that jumps out?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Luis Hernandez, he jumped over the, I think we mentioned earlier in this podcast so long ago, he jumped over the DSL started in the ACL and they've got this sort of confidence in him to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and they started him in there, spring break out game against a guy who had big league time in Chase Petty, and I think he walked against Petty, but he's been absolutely bonkers in the complex league right now, hitting for average for power, playing on the left side, staying healthy when he and Joe Swar are healthy together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they don't charge tickets for the Arizona complex league, but I would pay a pretty penny to get onto the backfield

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the great thing is you will be there, and you won't have to pay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's easy to get out of here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just need Joe's border to get healthy for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What about you, Ian?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually, I'm just going to highlight Luis Hernandez also, just because what he's doing is a 17 year old is truly incredible.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'd say something I'm working on that will be up by the time this comes out as looking at each age and some of the top performers in each age.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there are many 17 year olds who have enough of bats to qualify in anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's one of them in his data is obscene.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I, well, I was going to highlight aircar, and who is someone you talked about a little bit earlier.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He he rose up even more than he did after slotting and moving to the back end of the list last month, and.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What we saw is just a continuation of what in the name for obviously he hasn't had the same level performance, but his OPS, you know, after putting up over a thousand OPS in April, he's only done 900 did may so you know, real big downturn there, but I think it's just a reflection of.

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[SPEAKER_02]: the player that he is and kind of what we talked about with the course direction where he just moved on to the back end because that's how we do it in between when we're adding people mid month and now he's in level where he truly belongs because this is a really talented player he's got power he's got speed there's just really loud tools and he's just continue to perform and yeah he's someone who I think brave is one of the kind of the big winners I would say early in the season with the performance of him and maybe someone else who is added to the list that you'll have to check out at baseballamerica.com

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is our big risers, a list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're also going to talk about we're also explaining why some guys are moving down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll do that right after this quick break.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's good news and there's bad news any time we do a a top 100 update and some guys are going to move down and we're going to go through and kind of rattle off some of the big move down explain some of them to right like we try to explain like one of the things I think that's useful that we do when we're doing the top 100 we don't try to re-rank based on just like how we're feeling about guys like if a guy's going to move down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've had to do the story before Josh does it now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to make sure that there's a reason for it, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to be able to explain the logic behind it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And some of these we're going to, I think, just pretty obvious ones, but we do want to make sure that we're spelling it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the first one that we'll start with Ian, you do the twins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Walker Jenkins, it's not a dramatic drop, but Walker Jenkins was number four on the list spot this now, but breakliners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it wasn't just that Frank Lanier has moved over him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We moved kind of that top tier of pitcher above him as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He slid down to number 10.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was actually performing pretty well other than hitting the ball maybe on the ground a little bit too much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But why is he down here at number 10?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he actually, he did lose a spot as the top out feel prospect and baseball too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's now number two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think the reason isn't unfortunate one and it's he's hurt again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this has just, this has been his ML of his entire career.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He just really struggles with injury.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This one was very kind of flookie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He ran into an outfield wall at full speed and separated his shoulder.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But when you have an injury like that,

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a long track record of those and then you can buy it with what JJ said like he's performing well the underlying data looks good, but the ground ball rate is still high, you know it's it's fine margins at the top of the list and you know we just I think we decided that we had more confidence in the the trio of pitching crossbacks and then a couple of the other guys who moved up are as whom you mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_02]: guys like that who are all performing their healthy and just have a little more confidence in their long-term ability to stay on the field, I think, and some of the Jenkins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will lay off that like, we have a manual on regas is later on on this list on other twins out of filter who I would say even has more problem staying healthy unfortunately than Walker Jenkins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't move down as much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He moved out think four spots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And where he is in the list, I would say that's a less significant move than moving at top 10.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say what this is like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of again, it's the it's harder to stay at the very top that it is to stay in the middle of a top 100 like Walker Jenkins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The very small margins may move you behind some of the other guys is top list get further down in the middle of the list and it's like, okay, it's not as you're still kind of the underlying talent kind of let you stay a little bit more there I'll cover Max Clark since I do the Tigers for us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, it's nine spots he went from right behind Walker Jenkins to 14th on the list, I think kind of a starting point of this question was, Ian, I think in our meeting asked the question of would you rather have Theo Gillin or Max Clark and we went around the room and I think everyone was like Theo Gillin and now with Clark you're getting much more proximity to the majors, but to just be honest, it's a there's nothing I would say,

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[SPEAKER_00]: overtly concerning about his season like there's nothing where it's like he has this massive flaw that's just going to derail him or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The flip side is there's also nothing other than his exceptionally good contact rate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing else about it where you'd say wow he's really making the case that the tigers have to really let's just be honest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The struggling tigers, the struggling tigers line up that he has to be up next week or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a pretty middling season so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say you're hoping for a little bit more impact, you're hoping for a little bit just more almost kind of across the board out in the contact with contact or it's great, but a little bit more impact hitting the ball harder, more extra base hits more on base, like a little bit of everything better defense and center field, all those things you looking for a little bit more and again,

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is still that he's one of the best prospects in the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just means like if you said, would you rather have, again, looking at out there's hoseway to Paula or Theo Gillin, probably rather have, there's a little bit more impact potential there with those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he moves down a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Josh, you've written about pretty extensively about Caleb Bonner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been one of our fast risers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is one guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't say that we've yo-yowed him, but he moved up and now we kind of moved him back down a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got a lot of reporting on Bonnermer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would we move him down 13 spots to 31 of this list?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because right now, he started pretty well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's May was okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't do much besides walking, hit the occasional home run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's kind of what I saw from him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's got power.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No question about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he needs to get better against non-fast-boss.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that kind of showed up and when you go watch them, you can see almost immediately and nearly universally that pictures will pitch him backward or avoid fast balls entirely and if they do that and they execute, they can get him out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are holes there and there's, you know, you can get him a spin, you can probably get him with fast balls up because this wing is a little stiff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, he's going to struggle to play on the left side of the infield.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not much of a runner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I'm really putting a lot of wards on this on this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a big time power.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He needs to make more contact against pitchers pitches, or at least have a fighting chance against pitchers pitches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In my mind, to kind of stop this slide.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's plenty of time to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's pretty young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just not here to bury him, but just to point out, there are more flaws than you think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And scouts and evaluators universally say, this is he's only okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of a fringy player for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so he's 30 won on the list again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not like we're croaking him off the list and he's like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just took a little bit of a step down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll cover the next one, Robbie Stelling, because it's just pretty straightforward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Robbie Stelling is, you probably know if you're listening to this, you know, maybe some of you don't, but like Robbie Stelling made it to the big, big league's great job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then his elbow barked and he's gonna have to have surgery and he's gonna miss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He will be on this list for a very long time now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We thought we were gonna see him graduate, but instead he will be on it going into 20, 27 as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's disappointing news to see, you know, they have to have elbow surgery, but that's kind of led to the hit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We always say with this, like, if you're at the top of the list, you actually crazy enough often moved down less when you have an elbow injury than if you do if you're at the back of the hundred.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You'll often see it got the back of the hundred move off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have that question asked all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why is that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's really because if you're 75 on this list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The difference between you and Pileir 125 is very small and injury is the difference between, okay, so if you were a 55, you know, you were a 55 high or a, you know, a 50 medium risk before that injury, now your risk rate goes up and you drop off the 100, whereas if you were a 60 high or a 60 medium or whatever, yes, your risk goes up, but still not enough to really move you off the list or even down the list that dramatically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Josh, you do the Philly's list, another injury issue here, but one that I would say is a much tougher one to fully evaluate is Aden Miller came into this year, the Philly's shortstop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Came into this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're thinking like he did miss the AFL with, you know, was hope to be at the time a minor back injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See AFL a lot of times, the smallest of injuries can be a reason to keep

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[SPEAKER_01]: quickly to show up that I think he showed up to media day and like then just didn't get on the field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was it was that kind of a quick hook.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here we are here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is June 2nd as we record this June 3rd as you're listening to this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there is no timetable for a Miller right now to be back on the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Back injuries concern us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to tell us that we're not hitting enough or hitting them too much, I'm not going to tell you wrong, just because this is just really hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We season it with our way, a healthy player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's much harder when you're talking about an infielder with a back injury, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, we talked about back injuries a few minutes ago with Salis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's difficult with catchers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's difficult with everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my doctorate of chiropractic medicine got lost in the mail.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can't diagnose it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can only go on what the fillies and other teams tell me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what they're telling me through their actions is they sounds like they've ramped them back from baseball activities, which is not a good sign in my professional opinion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's a good chance we'll see him in they do seem to be optimistic that they'll get on the field during the regular season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think there's a good chance they'll have a second chance to be in the Arizona fall league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, he'll get plenty of time to keep the chance to get plenty of time to re up there as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that the difference between some of these other injuries is, for example, a snelling injury, it tell those surgery.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to wait for him to recover from it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This one, as far as I know, he hasn't been cut on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of like it's a it's a holding pad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know this severity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know what kind of pain he's dealing with on our day-to-day basis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's better if it's worse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's less of a finality or a road to recovery than there are with other injuries that are as simple as cut in the guy open and waiting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do want to get kind of throw it out open for him here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll point out one guy, another, like there are a number of guys who moved down is because of injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This one's not as significant, but Josh was at Cam Cam and Nitties, most recent start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you kind of spotted it, I feel like at the time, but like he's, you know, like his wrist is kind of barking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know how significant that is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, when you are where he is on the list, like when you saw him, like you said, he just really wasn't able to spin it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in the way that you were kind of expecting, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that, and I mean, it's also tipped off by the fact that two readings was the shortest outing of this career, even counting like the FCL days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you, you kind of knew something was up there, and, you know, I was watching him and he could kind of throw hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He could rear, rear back and get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When he wanted it, but nothing else in his mix was any good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I had seen him pretty good against Seth Hernandez in the spring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was really excited to see him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not on the I.L.

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[SPEAKER_01]: as far as I know and we've heard it's a risk there's been no confirmation from the team obviously, but that would make sense considering his bragging balls didn't do much in the way of bragging.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I will throw that one out, I'll throw out like obviously Ethan Holiday is out for the remainder of the year of stress

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[SPEAKER_00]: of with this foot like that's one where it's like okay well you know we'll just have to kind of see him again jot he'll be a Josh Norse special in the same way it's all river rafters you know and Ian anyone jump out to you on the list of move down like again many of the most significant move down were injury based but we also we do have a group of prospects that I would say we kind of also slid down the list that are kind of a little bit

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think Bryce Rainer from Tigers is a good example of this, and he's someone obviously you've talked a lot about on here, and I think you wrote an article about two just great video, kind of comparing this swing chase, he's made it to came back from his shoulder injury, and

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been up in IA, and it's kind of like the same issue.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he hits a ball really hard when he makes contact, but he just, there's a ton of swing and miss in his game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the mechanics just still seem out of whack and until they kind of return.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to view him in the same light you did coming into the season because he's just not the same player.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's just a completely different profile now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, he's someone that, you know, he's still in the 100, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: As you said, he's on notice we kind of need to wait and see, given another month, see what he looks like and see if they can start making some adjustments to the taggers know this too and they're working on it, but it's a really hard thing to do, you know, especially if you're compensating for a shoulder injury, it can take some time to get back to your swing mechanics and I think that's what's going on with Rainer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say looking ahead, right, we've got one more top 100 update, but the one after that will be the one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I would say that July will be again reflecting graduations, you know, we have to adjust for the month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We do have right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we know that we're going to have as we're, as you're listening to this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know that we're going to have another wave.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got spots 101, 102, and 103 set right now, because we know that we're going to have guys to be added in the not too distant future.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But next month, we'll be again, just kind of signposting it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A move up, move down based on further feedback, what we're hearing, injuries, performance, all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then the biggie will come up after that, because we'll have the draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then we'll be figuring out where do the the von Lackees and the Rochelowski's and the grady Emerson's and all that and it'll reshuffle again and by then by also we'll be posting Josh's ACL and FCL complex lists uh

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[SPEAKER_00]: because that'll be coming close to August.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we will be done with those seasons by then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Joshua will be back with stories from the DSL all star game and all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to have so much more coming on the top 100 list on the top 30s.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We do that again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We try to make sure that we are giving you the key thing for us is I could lay it out this way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're a baseball America subscriber, we want to make sure that you're a month ahead of everyone else out there, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you're finding out about these players who then pop into the public sphere a little bit more, but whether you want, we want to make sure that you first see them here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, as we said, we don't want to yo-yo either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's that balance of, we're trying to make sure that we tell you the prospects we're emerging first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we want to make sure when we tell you about an error cartman or a devent fish drilled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Ronnie Cruz is a perfect example.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a perfect way to wrap this up, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were both the, the, the, the, the,

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[SPEAKER_00]: The reports we were getting on Ronnie Cruz in April were really loud and this goes back to what he said about we want to put guys on and then we move them up and down right, but Ronnie Cruz moved on and it was great and then he got promoted and then he got hit in the head so like we don't know how much of it is maybe that he's still recovering from from that, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm proud we've got Ronnie Cruz on the hundred I'm also glad that we didn't like rock it him up the hundred right away because then we would have to kind of edge him back down he's not performing same level at high a little bit more concerns about the the hit tool and you know all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had them on there at the hundred.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of still sitting there at the back of the 90s.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, okay, that's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the kind of thing we want to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We want to identify those players, but we also want to react, but not over react, and hopefully do that as well as we can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Any closing thoughts for me there, you guys?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Josh, any questions?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of want to go around the table and suggest a guy that we think could be in top 100 soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We whether that's, you know, Ram.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Elderidge graduates like two days after this podcast drops or whatever if that I don't know if that was on our call sheet, but you know, I think we can all swing it and all since I took just the idea, I'll start with Kevin Aloriz.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he had a spectacular month in low-A, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, low-A Fayetteville, and he is the youngest player in the full season minor leagues

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's good enough for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He skipped over these like so many.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He skipped over the complex league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was stand out in the DSL last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's performing against universally older and more experienced peers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, he kind of jumps off the page from me as a guy that I certainly pushed hard in our meeting to get on the list and I'm excited to see how he continues the rest of summer, including after you see this, I'll be seeing him again tonight against Kendri Chorio, which would be a fun one to that in Fayetteville.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ian, what about you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, it's a tricky one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I would say that it's someone I'm monitoring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm not there yet with is Joseph Jiroa from the Orioles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Orioles pitching prospects kind of been an up and down season, I would say.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I think that their draft class last year looks really promising with him,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Striking out that I've ever owned there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think Joe was interesting because his view was backed up a little bit yet He's still extremely effective and there's just a really high floor here, you know He's worst case who looking at a lefty reliever and if he can develop a breaking ball that's kind of what's keeping him off the list right now It's just a lack of a breaking ball, but if he can take a stride there He's someone to me that could move on to the back and the list at some point this season I'm gonna highlight a guy who

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, he's not going to add to our 100 anytime soon, but was moving in that direction, which is Guardian's out filter robber areas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was a guy who moved on to our top 30 last month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe even a little bit on the podcast because he's got a kind of really interesting center fielder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As we were recording this last week, he was injured on a plate, second base, going in a second base, carted off the field, uh, to put an air cast on it, like I haven't got an full report on what it is, but we do know that he's going to be out for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if anyone has one feel free to chime in, but you, Ian looks at you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so like he's going to be out for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just want to highlight him in that he was a guy who Josh again and was doing a great job of grabbing getting scout feedback, he was got being brought up as a top 100 candidate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously it's going to be a little while you need to see him come back for the injury now, but that's a guy who was really kind of rising up and it's really unfortunate you hate to see forget we hate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We root for prospects.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know we talk about risers and followers we want to give you the information, but we want prospects to succeed and we really do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'd like to put that in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've been critical of a fair amount of prospects this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the cases where I have been, I'd sure love to be wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love everyone to be a big leader.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think my favorite stats though is I think we have ranked more prospects in our handbook than there are big leaders in the history of the sport.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's that the odds are not always in their favor, but you know, I'm happy to be wrong if it means a guy gets to live his dream.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we root for prospects.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We want prospects to succeed, but at the same time, we wouldn't be doing our jobs right if we're just laying out like it's all everything's great and there's never a prospect to ever as a concern, however, you know, has struggles, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like that, but we do hope for our speedy recovery for areas, but he is definitely someone who stands out as a,

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[SPEAKER_00]: a prospect who was heading in that direction, unfortunately, before you know, now we'll just hope he picks a speed of recovery and gets back out there and kind of shows again what he was doing before that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But so that is the baseball America prospect podcast for this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The top hundred June updated edition for Josh for Ian.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm JJ.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a long everybody.