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Welcome to episode four fifty one of the

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Well, well, well,

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The last time I brought on a couple

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to the people out there if I came

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about this topic.

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I've been trying to link up with this

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And I'm telling you what,

it's good to have him here.

FlatEarthDave.com.

How are you doing, Dave?

Hey, I'm doing good.

I'm on.

All right, I made it.

Yeah, you're good, man.

I'll tell you what,

I've been watching your material for a

while,

and I've had other people on here that

were definitely fans of yours.

There was Raul from the Firmamentals

podcast and a number of others that were

on here,

and I don't know if you heard it

or not,

but the first time I ever brought this

topic up,

Good night, man.

You thought, like I said a moment ago,

you would have thought I was on Epstein's

client list because so many people are

brainwashed or taught to believe that

everything in their reality,

whether it's the shooting with Trump,

whether it's the war in the Middle East,

no matter what it is,

everybody just openly believes this

narrative.

But right off the bat, Dave,

before we get hot and heavy,

why don't you give us a little background

on you and what brought you to this

work?

Oh, that's a great question.

So I always questioned everything growing

up.

And the first thing I questioned was

money.

And I saw a video.

You probably saw it called Money Masters.

Oh, yeah.

So that opened up a rabbit hole for

me.

And then I got into the IRS and

the Federal Reserve.

And then what year was it?

It was like...

Twenty two thousand and three,

four or five, somewhere in there.

I started a podcast.

It was a little after that called Deep

Inside the Rabbit Hole,

where I started looking into all the big

conspiracies.

And you named a couple of them.

You know, the nine eleven.

Boston bombing and all the other ones.

And.

Then Flat Earth was thrown at me and

I refused to look.

I was like,

that's just a step too far.

And and.

Most of us have the same story,

but I refuse to look.

I ban people from our social media for

even suggesting that I watch a one minute

video about it.

And then my friend, Sophia Smallstorm,

who did, um, nine, eleven mysteries,

she forced me to look and I went

in trying to debunk it.

And here I am, you know,

twelve years later,

Flat Earth Dave talking to you.

Wow.

Yeah, man,

I realize we're not going to have near

enough time to cover all those topics.

So we're going to we're going to jump

into the one that, you know,

it's right there in your name, Flat Earth.

You know, good night, man.

I mean,

NASA's putting out pictures every day.

We've been told there's a globe in every

classroom, the whole nine yards.

Um, you know,

for someone who's never really looked into

this topic,

what is the flat earth model in its

simplest form that might, you know,

that you might be able to explain to

somebody that may be new.

Yeah.

When you Google flat earth, uh,

Google's going to feed you.

Oh,

that's not what I wanted to show you,

but that's funny, funny, funny poster.

Um,

I came up with that at Anarchapoco.

But if you Google flat earth,

this is what you get.

This is what they want you to believe.

This is two false paradigms of false,

we're a disc floating in space, you know,

in a heliocentric model.

That's what they want you to think.

They want you to think that.

And then, you know, the argument is, oh,

are we the only flat planet?

You know, the only pizza planet?

you'll dismiss it and most people do

because flutter sounds absolutely

ridiculous because you're taught a fake

heliocentric model uh before you can have

the ability to think and then you're

you're taught a fake flat earth model and

you just can't even make sense of it

but once you understand that we're we're

essentially the the floor of creation

right the the

Neil deGrasse Tyson and other famous

propped up cosmologists will say,

to think that we're at the center is

arrogant, is very arrogant.

That's the word they use.

And that's absolutely not true.

We are the center of creation.

We didn't evolve from pond scum.

It's getting my breath here.

Sorry.

So the Flat Earth model,

the simplest way to look at it is,

this is the top-down view of the world.

The North Pole is at the center of

our world pond, right?

Can you bring me five gallons of water

without a container?

No.

Right?

Water needs to be contained.

Well, all of these lands,

all of these islands,

all of these continents are higher than

the water.

Okay.

So you have a shoreline.

This is the shoreline of our world pond.

This is Antarctica.

This is Antarctica.

And Antarctica is over double the height

of the second highest continent in the

world.

So Antarctica is the shoreline of our

world.

And if I turn the hour hand on,

the sun moves around.

Once every twenty four hours it goes

around.

So wherever the sun is, it's noon.

When it's noon in Sydney, Australia,

it's midnight over here.

We live in a small I mean,

we we live on a flat earth.

Somehow it's enclosed.

I don't think space is a vacuum.

With a small local sun.

There's a lot that we don't know,

but cosmology, you know,

in the globe model,

they think they know everything,

but they literally have no science to back

it up.

They say the sun is ninety three million

miles away.

They have no way to back that up.

They say that the radius of the Earth

is three, nine, five, nine miles.

But that's been debunked.

Everything they say and they use the word

science, they don't actually use science.

They use pseudoscience.

And they teach us the globe before we

have the ability to discern.

Like if I said to you, Billy,

I used to be president of the United

States.

You heard me.

Do you remember what I said?

You used to be president of the United

States.

And how did you remember that?

Your conscious mindset,

what did he just say?

It went to your subconscious memory.

It said,

he said it was president of the United

States.

Is that a true statement or a false

statement?

False.

Well, did you ever,

did you take the time to verify it?

No.

No.

Well, no need to, right?

Because you have enough life experience to

say,

I don't need to verify that at all.

Now,

if I told you right now I was

in Mexico, you'd be like, is he?

I wonder, right?

And you might want to verify that if

you wanted to prove it,

but no need to prove that I was

president of the United States.

But

So the way I describe it is you

have your subconscious mind,

which is the memory bank,

and you have your conscious mind,

which is over it.

When you're a child,

your conscious mind has gaping holes.

And every experience, everything you see,

everything you experience is another

spider web.

And they crisscross.

And the holes get smaller and smaller and

smaller with life experience.

You have enough life experience to say,

I don't need to check.

He wasn't president.

It's a silly statement.

no need to waste any more energy on

that.

But a child,

if we went into a kindergarten class and

I came in in a suit and tie

and said,

teacher goes, this is,

Dave used to be president of the United

States.

The kids would be like, oh, interesting,

right?

And then a year later in social studies

class, in the textbook,

they see a picture of me.

And then in sixth grade,

when they go to Washington,

they go to the White House,

there's a picture of me on the wall,

right?

And they see me in a movie,

in a movie about presidents.

But then later in life,

if someone goes to them,

how Dave Weiss wasn't president,

they'll fight you to the death saying that

I was,

but they have no proof because they were

just indoctrinated into a false belief.

And that's what our false beliefs are

about the globe.

We have completely and total,

we're just told things, right?

You told you,

I was looking for this while I was

talking.

Sorry about that.

So, where did it go?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I'm told the president,

you see me in the White House.

These these kids will believe it.

Right.

So what's one of the first things we're

taught in school?

We're taught that the earth is a globe.

It's at this young age.

Right.

They have globes in classes.

Sometimes every kid gets a globe.

They do, when it's your birthday,

they do a, now,

today they even do it.

You take the birthday cake and you go

around the sun and you're like, hey,

I've gone around the sun eight times or

whatever.

It's all indoctrination, indoctrination,

indoctrination.

And people will, are so indoctrinated,

they'll fight rather than look at the

evidence.

But if you look at the evidence,

it's undeniable.

Well, on that point, I mean,

with this indoctrination,

and I can concur in so many different

ways, just in terms of history,

everything we've been told about,

let's say World War I, World War II,

even the Civil War,

everything we're told is a manufactured

lie.

So when I started investigating this

myself and started asking critical

questions, there was a few aha moments.

I'll come to those perhaps a little bit

later.

But what were some of the big ones

for you?

Because you said you went into this

kicking and screaming and Sophia

Smallstorm, who, by the way,

I just happen to be a big fan

of, you know, she told you, hey,

you better take a look at this.

Was there a eureka moment that you had

while investigating?

Yeah,

so I'm doing a deep inside rabbit hole

and I had a thing called exposing the

big three.

And because this is on YouTube,

I'm going to speak in very broad terms

here.

The big three are the thing that happened

in New York on the day after September

the thing that happened at the marathon in

Massachusetts.

Right?

And the thing that happened in the school

in Connecticut that has a beach name to

it.

And those things,

when you look and you remove your emotions

and look at the facts,

it is undeniable that they are just

complete garbage stories.

And

So I would wake people up to those

three things.

And I said, hey,

once you wake up to these,

you're going to start seeing everything.

And a lot of people did wake up,

but people go right back to sleep.

They're like, yeah, you know,

but the administration is going to change.

And, you know,

this was a failure of intelligence.

And, you know, and, you know,

the people that did that,

people just make excuses.

But when you wake up to the flat

earth,

It affects you every day, everywhere,

every single person on earth.

When you wake up to flat earth,

there's not a day that you wake up

that you don't think about flat earth

before your feet touch the ground, right?

Or acknowledge that you're on a flat

earth.

So-

Sophia, I literally,

I'll tell the story because it's kind of

funny.

She's a long talker and she's a good

friend.

And I was heading into New York City

to do the podcast deep inside the rabbit

hole.

And I'm leaving my house in Connecticut.

I'm talking to her on the phone,

get in the car, plug the phone in,

talk to her all the way to the

city, parked.

I'm in the studio.

I'm still talking to her.

This is an hour plus later.

And while she's going on and on and

on,

I'm on Facebook banning people for

suggesting I look at flat earth.

I was being overwhelmed with people,

and I thought they were just all trolls.

And she goes, oh, Dave, by the way,

I think the earth is flat.

And I was like, not you too, Sophia.

And she goes here, watch these,

watch these videos.

And she sent me a couple of videos.

One of them was, uh,

Mark Sargent's clues that he just started

bringing, putting out.

And I said, okay,

I'm going to just look at this to

debunk it.

And, um, back then in twenty fourteen,

twenty fifteen, um,

YouTube would actually feed you.

Hey, you like that?

Check out this.

Check out this video by this person,

by this person, by this person.

And, um,

it kept feeding me videos that I couldn't

debunk.

So then I went out at that time,

Nikon had just come out with their P

nine hundred super zoom camera.

And I went out, I bought that,

I spent a thousand bucks, camera, tripod.

I got a perfect day.

I went down to the beach, calm, cool,

no humidity, no waves.

I zoomed in on a buoy over ten

miles away.

from three, four feet off the ground,

right?

Ten miles away.

Well,

that doesn't sound far if you're a ball

believer that doesn't know your own model,

but there should be sixty-six feet of

curvature.

Sixty-six feet.

That's a six-story building.

So if you were on the other side

of a six-story building, could I see you?

Absolutely not.

You're blocked.

There should be sixty-six feet of

curvature blocking

that buoy i can see the buoy i

can see the surface of the water beyond

it i can see the beach beyond that

and so i said all right the curvature

calculator is wrong they said i just was

still you know when you believe something

a hundred percent you'll make up excuses

and so i was still ninety nine point

nine nine nine nine nine nine nine percent

the earth is a ball and so i

went to the debunking the flat earth

debunking websites and i said what do they

say about this and they say well it's

not the curvature like that you know

It's not like you're here and they're

here.

You're here and they're there.

So it's only half of the curvature,

which is really stupid.

But I said,

there's only thirty three feet of

curvature.

I can still see the buoy.

I can still see the surface of the

water.

That's a problem.

And so.

I realized that the earth wasn't a ball.

And I didn't want to talk about it.

because our podcast was doing really well

and I didn't want people to freak out

and leave.

That lasted for about a week,

maybe two weeks.

And then I was like,

I got to talk about this.

And so for the next year, we, we,

Talked about Flat Earth in every show.

We had a whole Flat Earth section.

And then the podcast kind of blew up

after that.

And my two co-hosts couldn't handle Flat

Earth.

And I started the Flat Earth podcast with

a guy named Curious J.

And that went super viral.

And here we are,

you and I talking now.

Sorry for the long story,

but that's my story.

No,

that's exactly what I want to get into.

There was one thing you put out.

I don't know if it was a short

or a regular video a while back,

and I found it astonishing.

And the reason why is I was at

a local,

I would almost say like a haberdashery

kind of store.

But they had a dictionary that was over

a hundred years old.

So I said,

let me go in this dictionary and look

up the word firmament.

And I compared that definition.

I wish I would have taken a picture

of it.

In fact, I may have.

And I looked at that definition then to

what they give now,

two very different definitions.

But going back to the video that I

saw of you, correct me if I'm wrong,

but I swear you were at a nursing

home and you were talking to a lady

that had to be near a hundred or

pretty darn close.

And you asked her a couple of critical

questions.

What were those?

So I was talking to her.

Sorry about that.

My light fell off.

I was talking to her about the world's

fair.

So I was visiting my mother who was

in an old age facility and she had,

she was taking a nap.

And I said to the nurses,

is there anyone here over a hundred?

Cause I was investigating the world's

fairs back then,

which is a whole nother rabbit hole.

And yeah,

They said, oh, Ruth, right over there.

She's sitting in the cafeteria by herself.

And she's over a hundred.

And I was like, oh, this is great.

And I went over and started talking to

her and she's telling me about the world's

fairs and just how incredible the lights

were.

And her memory was really,

really just amazing.

And I said to her,

what did they teach you about earth, Ruth?

And I said, she said, oh,

they taught me the earth was flat.

And I said, can I record this?

And she's like, sure, you know?

And so I actually tried to call,

she's very biblical.

I tried to call another flat earther who's

way into biblical flat earth,

but he wasn't available.

So I just recorded it off the cuff.

And this is funny.

This was back in twenty twenty.

It went super viral.

It was crazy.

It was mirrored on the hundreds of

channels.

And I said to everybody,

we need to go to old age homes

now and find people over a hundred years

old.

We don't have much more time because all

of these people are,

they're going to be dying off.

And two days later,

they closed all the nursing homes

worldwide because of COVID and nobody can

go into any nursing home.

Wow.

Isn't that crazy now?

That's just a coincidence, right?

But I'm not a coincidence theorist,

but that's gotta be a coincidence, right?

It wasn't because of me.

No,

that was really astonishing because it was

around that time, well,

actually it was a little bit after that

I had found this dictionary.

I said, you know what,

let me go see if they changed the

definition.

And of course they have.

So let's get down to brass tacks for

a lot of people that may be saying,

okay, what's the evidence out there?

So if the earth is flat,

or what some others call biblical earth,

if it's

where are the edges what's holding

everything in what's i mean you know if

we believe the the model they tell us

you know we're basically in a i think

my buddy alex brought up the uh example

of um like a convertible driving down the

road all the air is going to just

get sucked right out into a vacuum i

mean explain to me what exactly this realm

is that we live in i mean is

it if it's not a ball then what

is it and what's holding it all together

well

Again,

we're only allowed to explore the known

world.

All the countries in the world that are

fighting,

they all agree that no one is allowed

to go beyond sixty degrees south.

Right.

They all agree that there's no independent

exploration beyond sixty degrees south,

which is fascinating.

Let's see.

So where would sixty degrees south be?

Sixty degrees south would be like right

out here.

But there's all of these military bases

that are all around here and nobody is

allowed to independently explore.

Now,

you can go from Santiago out here to

this little peninsula, which is gigantic,

is bigger than some countries.

And

They will bring you to two islands.

One of them is called Rothschild Island.

The other one is called Deception Island.

Wow.

Fascinating, right?

And people say, well,

I've been to Antarctica.

There's nothing going on there.

What's going on out here?

Out here in the outer space, right?

What's going on out here?

That's the question.

Just because you went to a little tiny

island right here on this peninsula

doesn't

That doesn't mean you know.

That's like coming over from England,

you land on the south shore of Long

Island,

and you know what's going on in

California, Texas, Ohio, and Florida.

You don't know anything.

You don't even know what's going on on

the north shore of Long Island.

So...

All of this,

what is here in this outer space?

And the question is, we don't know.

We can only speculate.

We can only speculate what's out there.

So the world is a pond.

That's how I look at it.

The question is,

what's beyond the edge of the pond?

Let me just pull up maps here for

a second.

What if the world was...

set up something like this, right?

We're here in the center part.

This is Antarctica.

Well, what's out here?

Extra territory?

Extra terra?

If somebody lived out here on the extra

terra, what might you call them?

And if they come to visit us in

here, where are they coming from?

Which space?

The outer space.

So there's truth in everything, right?

And this is just a conventional

transportation trip away, a day trip,

right?

Somebody can come, an alien,

an extraterrestrial can come from out

here,

anally probe somebody and get back in time

for dinner with the kids in the same

day.

So,

It's a little bit of a joke.

This is a map that was found in

a Buddhist temple, ten centuries old.

It was published in January of nineteen oh

seven in a Hawaiian newspaper showing all

these other continents out here.

We have evidence that ships go out here,

cargo ships like what are they doing?

Are they trade routes that we don't know

about?

There's so much.

So people say, well, where's the edge?

That's because you've been programmed to

think that there is an edge.

We don't know.

Now, some biblical people will say,

this is it.

This is the only pond.

There's nothing else beyond the firmament,

which connects down.

I don't necessarily believe that.

I can't disprove it because we're not

allowed to go there.

But I think there's an infinite plane.

I think it goes on for millions and

millions of miles.

I think that there may be many ponds.

That's just my theory.

All I know is where we live.

We live right here.

We live right here.

Well, how do you explain things like,

for example, ever since I was a kid,

I had always questioned this ninety three

million miles that the sun is supposedly

away from here when I can see on

certain days when the clouds are situated

in a certain way where you can see

the sun rays come in.

And if it's ninety three million million

miles away,

then all of these things should be

parallel.

All of the beams of light that I

see coming through those clouds should be

parallel.

They're not.

And in fact, it's almost pyramidal.

the way it looks to me.

Look at that sun right there.

Is that ninety three million miles away?

Not to me, it isn't.

I did believe it even as a kid

long before I was like, hold on,

this makes no sense.

If it's ninety three million miles away,

then from my perspective,

every single beam of light coming through

those clouds should be about parallel.

It's a parallel.

People will claim that, well,

they're coming towards you and they're

spreading out just like railroad tracks

spread out.

And that's a good claim.

That's a good claim.

But the ones going away are also spreading

out.

They should be converging together.

And globers will say, well,

if you go above the clouds and you

see crepuscular rays from the clouds,

they're perfectly straight.

Now,

I haven't seen a good picture of that.

But if the one I saw that was

real and showed the rays coming in

straight when you're looking down, well,

that means they're crepuscular.

Because if you see them going straight,

there's no perspective.

You would see them converging if they were

parallel, if you were above.

Good point.

You would see them converging.

If you go on top,

you can't do it now,

but there's some pictures from the top of

the Giza pyramid.

If you read at the top and you

look down, the sides look parallel.

They don't look like they're going out.

They literally look perfectly parallel

because the angle is perfect for our

vision to make them parallel.

Yeah,

there's a whole lot of questions out

there.

So for because I'm sure there's a whole

lot of people that are listening to this

podcast and are thinking, OK, man,

you guys got to make a case.

So, I mean, how do you explain seasons?

How do you explain day and night?

Oh, my God.

Seasons is my favorite of all of all.

Thanks for asking.

So I'm going to explain these things.

But for those of you that are ready

to tune out,

I offer three Bitcoins for one globe

proof.

A Bitcoin is dropping,

but it's still one hundred eighty thousand

dollars.

One globe proof.

Three Bitcoins.

Right.

Just hang tight.

Go to my website.

You're telling me if somebody can offer

one bit of proof,

one scientific proof that the Earth is a

spinning globe in space.

You and three Bitcoins.

And nobody's ever challenged?

Oh, they challenge.

They challenge with just absolute

nonsense.

My trolls are going to show up here

so hard in your comments.

It's going to be unreal.

But I want you to go to their

channels and see that there's no content

on their channels.

They got nothing, right?

They're empty bot channels or super lazy

trolls.

So...

Yeah, go ahead.

I'm sorry.

Go ahead, Dave.

I was just going to try to bring

it back.

I mean,

how do you explain seasons and day and

night and the whole nine yards in your

model?

Yeah, yeah.

So seasons actually make no sense on the

globe.

Let's talk about it.

So the sun circles around.

I'll make this a little bigger.

Hold on.

Where is it?

Hold on a second.

One second.

So the sun circles around, as I said,

once per day,

and it spirals into the Tropic of Cancer

and out to the Tropic of Capricorn.

Here we go.

There we go, big, boom.

All right,

so the outer yellow line right over here

is the Tropic of Capricorn,

and the inner yellow line right there is

the Tropic of Cancer.

The red line is the equator.

So right now the sun is working its

way in on June, the twenty-first,

it's gonna be over the Tropic of Cancer.

So if I jump forward, we're at June,

July, August, September, October,

November, December.

In December, it's way out here.

Now, in December,

it's cold for us here in the north,

where the north is the inner part and

the south is the other part.

In December, it's summer for Australia.

Well, look,

the sun is going right over Australia.

So let's take a look at seasons.

Let's just pull up seasons here.

So this is an observation that I had

myself.

So this was last February.

I was in Mexico right here and it

was over ninety degrees and in the

northeast it was negative ten hundred

degree difference.

Now,

the sun is only point zero zero zero

zero three percent farther in the

heliocentric model.

That's kind of weird.

Like, well, no, it's the angle.

It's the angle.

But if you think about the angle of

the sun,

the sun changes angle all day long from

morning to night.

It goes from its lowest point to its

highest point back to its lowest point.

But there's a hundred degree difference

with insignificant difference in distance.

You follow me?

Right.

But on a flat earth model the sun

was right here right it's working its way

out it was February so December January

February it's working its way back in i'm

here at the end of this yellow line

and the northeast is twice as far away

which one makes more sense for seasons.

If you were standing next to a campfire,

you're three feet from the fire and it's

hot, if you tilt yourself,

is it gonna make much of a difference?

No, but if you took five steps backwards,

it's gonna make a difference.

Yeah, that makes, all in the same,

all in that same thing,

I guess you're explaining day and night.

So the perception that we see according to

that model is that it isn't the sun

necessarily going

you know,

us going around the sun or the earth

spinning or anything like that.

It's just, I guess,

correct me if I'm wrong,

it's just the sun is getting further away

from you.

The sun is getting further away.

It spirals in.

Now, let me ask a question.

You're standing under a streetlight.

That's your summer sun.

We'll call that your summer sun.

You're in Florida, right?

In June, in Miami,

the sun is directly over your head.

So...

As the sun moves out south,

it gets farther away.

It's like the streetlights down the road.

They look lower.

They're still the same height,

but they're farther and they appear lower

to you in the sky.

Does that make sense?

Yeah, yeah.

I'm just trying to pull up some season

stuff for you.

Seasons actually,

when you really look at it,

prove the earth.

So the sun...

makes what's called an analemma.

This person took a picture every day of

the corner of his roof and it makes

a small loop and a big loop, right?

The big loop is December.

This is the winter because it's making a

bigger loop.

And then the small loop is the summer

here.

So the analemma itself proves the shape of

the earth.

Now, the analemma is...

This guy took a picture every day for

two years.

So he's taking it at five-forty in the

afternoon.

You can tell he's taking it in the

north because this is higher.

Why is it higher?

Because the north has a smaller loop,

so...

When the sun is closer to him,

which would be in the north,

it would appear higher,

just like your streetlights.

This isn't lower.

If he took it from over here,

that part would be higher.

So that is taking a picture of the

sun at the same time every day,

and it makes a small loop and a

big loop.

There is no explanation on the globe earth

for that.

Now, Dave, regarding all this,

there was a recent thing a while back.

And personally, I didn't buy it.

I thought the whole thing stank to high

heaven to me.

But there was this thing where they all

went down supposedly to Antarctica and

they did this little test.

At the end of the day,

I can still see too far.

I don't care what evidence you think you

brought there.

What are your thoughts on all that?

Because supposedly, you know,

the media was quick to jump on this.

And whenever I see the prostitute media,

you know, all for something,

I start to raise an eyebrow.

So what were your thoughts on them

supposedly debunking the whole notion of a

flat earth?

Yeah, this was a multi-year plan.

I'll touch on it a little bit,

but it was actually designed for me.

They wanted me to go.

I was the one they were targeting because

I'm waking up too many people.

And if they take me down,

it would have been a pretty big blow.

That's not my ego or anything.

It's just a fact, right?

So my app is waking up too many

people, and they wanted to make people.

Well, here's the thing.

I said years ago that a twenty-four-hour

sun in Antarctica is impossible on a flat

Earth.

I was wrong.

I think it is possible.

However,

I don't think there is a twenty-four-hour

sun in Antarctica.

The other thing is looking at the sky

at the, you know, while ago,

I used to say the earth was a

globe.

I was wrong, right?

We're allowed to change your mind based on

new information.

So,

The whole trip was put together by this

fake pastor who claims to be a

multimillionaire who's under federal

indictment.

Well,

I don't know if it's a federal indictment.

He's under investigation by the SEC.

He's already paid millions of dollars in

fines.

He has ten charges against him currently.

And all he cares about is settling the

flat earth debate.

Weird.

Like,

shouldn't he be worried about his freedom

and his financial future?

And

He proved he was a pastor because he

streamed a Sunday morning church sermon

every day for like a year or so

leading up to TFE,

which is the failed experiment.

And

But it's funny thing in those videos,

there's never a cough, a baby crying,

a person making any noise.

There's nothing.

He never acknowledges anybody.

It's kind of like he was just doing

it in an empty church.

So...

Also,

this guy Duffy said in his interviews that

he just learned about Flat Earth three

years ago and he just wants to put

an end to the debate.

Right.

Well, he was the producer for Bob Inyard,

a radio host in Denver for ten years.

And Bob and Bob Inyard show was an

anti Flat Earth show.

So just a total lie.

So again, but here's the thing.

Let's say there is a sun,

a twenty-four-hour sun in Antarctica.

Now, okay,

if you want to say the movement of

a light in the sky dictates the shape

of the Earth,

first you have to assume the Earth is

a globe.

Then you have to explain how helium and

hydrogen that defy gravity on Earth,

that gases violently fill the available

space,

how they somehow collapse and create a

gravitational burning ball that burns

six hundred and forty million tons or

billion tons every day or every hour.

It's something ridiculous.

Never gets any smaller.

You have to explain how the motion of

that dictates the shape of the earth.

As you said, we can see too far.

Yeah, definitely.

When you get down to brass tacks,

that's why when it came out with it,

I'm like, OK,

explain to me how I can see entirely

too far.

This was a deception as big as the

moon landing.

You know, when Admiral Byrd went over,

Project High Jump said there's more land

on the other side of the South Pole,

which would be in between Australia and

Africa, bigger than the United States.

And no one has ever seen.

I think somebody would have seen it.

And then he said that on a news

show six months later, he died, right?

Weird.

He died in his sleep.

That was just a coincidence, I'm sure.

But then they immediately said,

we're going to the moon, right?

And so they did the moon landings.

And you know the moon landings are fake,

right?

As a three-dollar bill.

Okay.

So...

So this is just another,

and that was to make people think they

live on a ball.

And the question that anyone in the

audience that's new to this would be like,

why would they lie?

That's my favorite question of all.

We'll get to that.

And it is the most important lie of

all, but just finishing up on seasons.

Here we are outside.

It's this person got a heat lamp and

they're nice and warm.

This person's cold.

This person has their sun high in the

sky.

And this person has the sun lower in

the sky at a lower angle.

This person's up high.

This person sees the sun lower.

Now, if we move the sun over,

keeping it at the same height,

it gets lower for this person and higher

for this person.

Warm, cold.

There are your seasons.

The equator's in the middle.

Make sense?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm definitely, there's a lot of,

I mean,

it took a lot of rewiring in my

brain and I'm still asking, I mean,

I don't know what this realm actually is.

Neither do I. I, I, I'm a,

you know,

I'm basing what I think I understand about

what the Bible says,

like in Psalm nineteen, I think it,

and then strangely enough,

Werner Von Braun has it right there on

his tombstone.

It's as if they were laughing at all

of us like, oh, yeah, you believe this?

You believe what we told you?

I mean,

we live in a place where the powers

that shouldn't be lie about every,

there is not a single case in history,

from my perspective,

that cannot be proven as a manufactured

lie.

So, you know, the moon landing,

the whole nine yards, I mean,

there's not one part of it I actually

believe.

So Dave,

let me ask you about some other things

because people are almost certainly going

to want to know what about, Oh,

you got a point there.

Yeah.

What was your question?

I just want to show a couple of

examples of how the radius has been

falsified.

And when you falsify the radius,

the entire cosmos falls apart because

everything's based off the radius of the

earth.

No, I totally agree.

If that's a lie,

then everything else is a lie because I

can see with my own two eyes,

like you said, looking through a camera,

looking through whatever,

things that should not appear there.

What do they tell you?

It's a mirage.

I forget the nonsense that they tell me

that it is.

Yeah.

So they say refraction and here's the

thing.

Yeah.

Light over great distances,

things distort and warp and compress.

And, you know,

I was looking at my wife a mile

down the beach through,

through my P nine hundred and she looked

like a genie.

Her body was like wiggling and it was

like, it was crazy.

Um, that's called compression, distortion,

refraction, whatever you want to call it.

No problem.

But if something is not in your line

of sight behind a physical object, um,

you can't see it.

What weather forecast,

what weather could come in and make my

mouth come above this book?

What kind of atmospheric conditions would

make you be able to see my mouth?

Good point.

Yeah.

None.

Right.

But there are stuff that can limit your

visibility.

So when we talk about the horizon and,

A six foot tall person,

there's six feet of curvature at three

miles.

So that's where their horizon should be.

A six foot tall person with perfectly

clear day, perfectly calm water.

They should not be able to,

the horizon should be just three miles

away.

That's not very far, right?

When I say horizon,

you can see the water right here.

But as I bring it back,

the water goes over the horizon.

See how my nail starts disappearing from

the bottom up?

Like that's a boat, right?

So-

So that's the horizon.

So a boat just past the horizon, well,

you'd still see the boat because only the

very,

very bottom would be behind the horizon.

And the farther it goes away,

it would disappear from the bottom up.

That's true.

They've brainwashed into thinking that's

how the only way things can disappear.

But here's the problem.

This camera here is...

Hold on a second.

This camera here is eight feet off the

ground.

That would put the horizon,

according to the Earth Curve Calculator,

at three and a half miles.

Well, the distance to this first oil rig,

this is two oil rigs.

The first one is at six miles away.

The second one's at ten miles away.

The horizon would be at three and a

half miles,

maybe right here or even lower.

But we shouldn't be able to see the

surface of the water, but we can.

We can see the surface of the water

here.

We can see the surface of the water

in between.

We can see the surface of the water

from miles beyond the ten mile one.

Sixty feet of curvature should be here.

This water should be sixty feet below the

horizon.

But we still see it.

You have to remember, on a ball,

everything goes down and away.

So every foot farther you go,

the farther something is down.

So all of this water has to be

refracting up

and stopping at the same mark,

that makes absolutely no sense.

Here is,

we have these objects on this ball, right?

So I'm gonna turn this around and you

can only see the white one, right?

Where are we?

You see the white one?

Do the white one right there.

And that's on your eyes.

If I brought it back farther,

it would be over the horizon, right?

Right.

So the orange one has to go up

a little bit and then the yellow one

has to go higher and the purple and

the pink and the green,

they all have to go up higher.

So it appears that's what the water has

to be doing.

So they all have to refract at different

amounts, right?

Right?

This is not the scale, of course.

Right?

So they're all,

the green one here has to refract all

the way up there.

The yellow one only has to go up

a little bit.

Right?

Let me show you a real world example.

Again, we can- Not only refract,

but keep the resolution at the same time.

This is absurd.

Yeah, things do get blurry over distance.

But that doesn't matter.

The fact that we can see them is

incredible.

So I'm going to show you another one.

Now,

refraction has to do with humidity and all

sorts of stuff.

But this is in the winter, no humidity.

Here we have a body of water.

It's a canal or a lake,

whatever you want to call it.

And large bodies of water need to be

contained.

And when they're still and cold,

they freeze, and they freeze flat.

You ever go ice skating on a lake?

The lake is flat.

So here we got a camera, a P-

six inches off the ice.

And out here, we have four lights,

eight miles, seven miles, six miles,

and five miles.

Now, it doesn't sound like far.

Earth is very, very big, right?

But according to Earth Curve Calculator,

and if we add in a ridiculous amount

of refraction, there is no refraction.

But if we add in, you know what,

Globers?

You say there's two,

twenty percent refraction.

I'm going to add in fifty percent

refraction,

just to give you the benefit of the

doubt.

Thirty feet below the curve,

twenty-two feet, fifteen feet,

and nine feet.

But for some reason,

they all line up in line of sight.

Now, there's two explanations for this.

On a flat Earth,

you got the camera six inches off the

ice.

All of these lights are one foot off

the ice, and they all line up.

We just see them just as we would

see them.

Flat Earth explanation.

Globe Earth explanation,

six inches off the ice at point eight

eight miles away,

according to the Earth curve calculator.

That's where the tangent of the Earth

would be.

So that's your horizon.

This one's refracting up that much.

This one's refracting up more,

more and more.

And none of them refract up higher or

lower.

They all perfectly stop at the tangent of

this camera's view.

The refraction matches the curve of the

Earth perfectly every time.

It's so dumb.

It is.

I mean,

I got to ask about this next one

and, um, Oh my goodness.

We're just not going to have enough time

for all this, but let me,

we can go a little over if you

want.

It's up to you.

Yeah, we absolutely.

Um, if you're able to do it, um,

What do we make of NASA?

What do we make of satellites?

How do you reconcile all that?

Supposedly,

we got satellites flying over all day and

night.

I've seen them, right?

You've seen satellites, haven't you?

Yeah.

How do we explain these things?

So if you go,

everyone Google satellites in space and

you only get cartoons.

So there's no photos of satellites,

but we do see those lights going across

the sky.

It used to be one of my favorite

things to do when I'm in the Caribbean.

At night,

I'd go out and I'd just watch satellites

go by and it just fascinated me.

I loved it.

I love satellites.

Amazing.

So the question you have to ask is,

How big is a satellite?

Well,

let's say a satellite's the size of a

Volkswagen bug.

I think that's a pretty big satellite,

but we'll just say that.

Volkswagen bug is about the smaller than

the engine on a seven forty seven, right?

Oh, yeah.

Those engines are huge.

If you watch a seven forty seven at

altitude, the seven forty seven is tiny.

You see the wings,

but you can't make out the engine, right?

It's too small to see.

That's at five, seven miles up.

We'll say seven miles up.

If we doubled the height,

fourteen miles up,

you couldn't even see the seven forty

seven.

It's too small for your eye to resolve.

That's a fourteen miles up.

Starlink satellites are three hundred and

fifty miles up and they're tiny.

It would be absolutely impossible to see

them.

Here's the problem.

Starlink service works.

How does it work?

I'm going to answer that.

So I was on a flight.

going here let me just get rid of

that i was on a flight uh going

uh i was going to mexico actually and

um i'm on the flight i'm listening to

a tiktok live i'm uploading videos i'm

checking my email i'm instant messaging

like this is fantastic right

The equipment on the airplane is

connecting me with the cell towers.

And we're just like a car going down

the road.

It's going from tower to tower to tower.

Interesting.

But this kept popping up on my phone.

Let everyone know that you're connected

via satellite.

I'm like, really?

So let's think about that.

This is supposedly connected to Starlink.

So I got my airplane.

I got my satellite.

I make it more to scale.

Here's the airplane.

This isn't even to scale because this is

only seven miles up.

This is three hundred and fifty miles up.

They want me to believe that the plane

is sending my signal up to a tin

can that is a minimum of three hundred

fifty miles up.

That's if it's directly above the plane.

If it's farther away, it's farther away.

And then that tin can that doesn't have

a power source can't be serviced,

is floating impossibly around a spiraling

vortexing Earth.

It's sending the signal down right past

the airplane to a cell tower.

That's the official story of what's going

on.

Does that seem ridiculous?

Yep.

Absolutely ridiculous.

But Starlink service works.

How does it work?

So have you ever seen the Starlink

satellites?

No, I haven't.

You never looked in the sky?

When they first came out,

everyone was seeing them, and I saw them.

And there's these line of lights that are

going by.

What's funny is,

Since then, a bunch of years ago,

they've put up thousands and thousands

more,

but no one's barely seeing these anymore.

Everyone should be seeing these every

night if there's that many up there.

But you see these go by,

and a lot of people hear an airplane

in front or behind the string of

satellites.

So first off,

these are way smaller than a jet engine,

How the heck are we seeing them?

How are they reflecting sunlight?

How are they reflecting sunlight

perfectly?

Like when you reflect sunlight,

it should be flashing.

It wouldn't happen all the time, right?

These are lights.

So what are they?

Well, you've seen a firework replacement,

fireworks, right?

There's a firework, I mean,

drone replacement fireworks, right?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

So imagine get rid of all of this

and just have one of these lines of

lights.

Is that what we're seeing?

Are we seeing drones?

Are we seeing drones up there?

And what's interesting is sometimes you'll

see one of the lights go out and

then another one will come on.

It'll come back on.

Like, wait a minute.

If it's reflecting sunlight,

why did it go out and come back

on?

But you know what's interesting?

Elon Musk's brother,

bought the largest firework replacement

drone business, drone company.

Well, how about that?

How about that?

How about that?

But Starlink service works.

How does that happen, right?

Let's talk about the size, right?

This is a man standing next to this

jet engine.

A man is as big as a Starlink

satellite, right?

This is a seven, four,

seven at just seven miles up.

And we're going to see something smaller

than this at three hundred and fifty miles

up.

All right.

But Starlink service works.

Keep saying that.

So I asked chat GPT.

What if you took, oh, by the way,

I don't know how old you are,

but the Vietnam War,

one of the big things they promoted during

that was that it was so far away

that the soldiers had special radios that

would connect to AWACS airplanes and then

they would relay it back to Washington.

Make sense?

You remember that?

Oh, yeah.

Right.

But their radios look remarkably like

Starlink receivers, just a little older.

interesting interesting so i asked chat

gpt i said what if satellites the

satellite equipment was in the belly of

airplanes they'd have a power source

they'd be able to be serviced on a

regular basis.

And airplanes are everywhere,

everywhere in the world, you know,

everywhere in the populated world.

And chat GPT said,

that would be very good.

It would be strong.

You'd have power.

You'd be able to service them.

They're everywhere.

Right.

It's not as far to transmit, you know,

the higher you make a cell tower, the,

the,

the farther of reach it has.

Well,

imagine cell towers at five to seven miles

high, right?

That's airplanes.

And it said,

the only problem is if there's a big

weather system, a big storm,

and they're diverting airplanes around it,

then you'd have a hole in your service.

I said, well,

what if they just had military planes

flying above those storms, relaying it?

And it said,

that would be a more robust system,

more economically feasible and practical

than the whole Starlink story.

So here's the last thing.

We have a couple, some military guys that,

um,

one guy lives in the South Pacific

somewhere on a little Island and he had

no internet until Starlink came around

years ago.

And he,

he's one of these guys that tracks all

of the planes in the sky.

He knows all the war planes,

knows what's exactly what's going on in

the sky.

And he says,

every time the last airplane leaves his

area, he loses his Starlink service.

Another coincidence.

Hmm.

See, I've never heard any of that before.

Certainly not with Starlink.

But I mean,

there's nothing that they tell us,

I believe.

I mean, absolutely nothing.

So where do you stand?

I mean, this is a stupid question,

but I got to ask it.

I mean, how do we account for NASA?

What about this International Space

Station?

What's going on with all that?

What about all these pictures we see from

space?

How do you account for all that?

Yeah, well, the photos with AI now,

it's incredible.

You can't believe anything.

But let's just look at some footage on

the space station.

This is that one astronaut playing with

water.

So they're always playing with water on

the space station,

which is weird because there's a lot of

interactivity.

Watch that ball.

It just disappears.

This is showing you that it's just...

Look.

And it's gone.

Oh, my goodness.

So that's a that's a screw up.

But you know what?

Maybe it's some video compression.

Here is an astronaut.

Like, is that how you'd flip around?

And he gets tangled in his wires.

Watch his hand.

He's unwrapping his hand.

Oh, my goodness.

Right.

And why do in space?

Why do they all have these heavy

industrial belts on?

Like,

are your pants going to fall down in

zero gravity?

Huh?

Right?

So let's just watch a couple others.

Here's one where something happens.

She's bouncing.

Why is she bouncing?

Right?

And then all of a sudden something happens

and she gets yanked.

Whoa.

And she reaches over.

We've caught that many times.

There's some controls over there where

they're controlling the wires.

All right?

We'll keep going because if that one

doesn't get you...

This guy's coming in.

Look, you can see the wire.

Oh, absolutely, you can, yep.

Yep, you can see the wire.

All right, so if they're in space,

why would they have to fake it, right?

Here's a spacewalk.

Now, this could be,

I can't find the original source,

but this could just be an AI video.

It probably is an AI video,

but the question is, did NASA release it?

And he's not even connecting the wrench.

You know,

these guys are on these spacewalks.

What are they doing out there?

You've only seen them tighten a bolt and

loosen a bolt.

You never see them doing anything else.

Like if there's a problem on a submarine,

do the guys swim outside of the submarine

to fix it or they fix it from

the inside?

right it's it's incredible so i won't give

that one uh too much weight let's see

what this one is oh yeah this is

the same thing um but again if that's

from nasa that is just horrible um and

no dummy cord on it i mean if

you were to drop something like that and

you're going the speeds they're talking

about good enough i'm on the space station

And I don't get seventy million dollars a

day like they get.

Right.

Here's another issue.

I. Where'd he come from?

Where did he come from?

Look,

I can do the same thing with me.

Ready?

Oh, I'm gone.

So they're using green screens.

Oh, here I am.

What would be the bigger purpose then?

I mean, in light of all this,

I mean, why are they doing this?

Why are they faking space to hide God?

All of this is to hide humanity from

knowing who they are,

knowing that we're at the center of

creation,

knowing that we are powerful beings.

beings that God created this place for us,

uh, hiding free energy, hiding, um,

hiding our divinity.

They're hiding our true power.

They're hiding everything.

Imagine if you'd have to pay for gas

or electric for your car or for your

home, that would free up,

free up a little bit.

Oh yeah.

So again, one,

just them faking space once is, uh,

is all you need to see.

On the Joe Rogan show,

they had this guy on that was talking

about NASA being fake.

And Joe was challenging them because Joe

is compromised in some way.

And he's like, well, what about the ISS,

the live feeds?

Pull up the live feeds.

And Joe pulled up a live feed.

And on the live feed, this happened.

He saw this line on a live feed.

showing that they're stitching imagery

together.

It's real photo of Earth, right?

They zoomed in and there was this line.

If the Earth was a globe and they're

doing filming, you wouldn't have a seam.

Live on Joe Rogan's show, that happened.

Wow.

Yeah.

And then this happened...

So this is about a zero-g plane, right?

Mm-hmm.

So this is supposedly on the ISS.

This is a zero-g plane.

This was years ago.

I think it was a space shuttle.

I don't think it was...

The morning news said we're going to have

a rare interview live with people on the

space shuttle as soon as we have satellite

time.

We only get them for like, thirty seconds.

Right?

Thirty seconds.

Well, gee,

the zero G planes give you about thirty

seconds of weightlessness.

So during the live stream,

all of a sudden they slammed into the

wall.

Everyone slammed into the wall.

Now,

that seems seems seems a little scary.

If you look at a zero G plane

at the end of the flight,

at the end of the curve,

they all slam down at the same time.

So ready?

It ends and then all of a sudden

they they go down.

It seems very much like, boom,

that's the end of the zero G.

They all fall down.

And if we compare it to this,

I'll rotate this.

It looks like that.

Now, if that was an unexpected shift,

I want you to watch the guy in

the foreground here.

With one hand,

he catches a roll of duct tape and

something else.

One hand.

unbelievable yeah so it's not it's like he

look he catches them both with one hand

this was not unexpected it just happened

during the live broadcast when it wasn't

supposed to happen that and ever since

then they don't do any more really live

stuff like that um using zero g they

do it with wires they do with green

screens they do it with ai but um

another coincidence what do you think

No,

I think it's I think every single thing

they put.

I mean, who was it?

The CIA director years ago under Reagan

said, you know,

we will know that our disinformation plan

is complete.

Everything the American people believe is

false or something like that.

It was Bill Cohen, I think.

This is Buster Keaton, an old movie.

And you can see the wire pulling him

up here.

And it's just an old movie.

And he comes in.

He gets his feet around the wire.

Sometimes the astronauts get their feet

caught in the wire.

Look at this guy.

You can see the wires coming up from

the back of his shirt.

And is that how?

And look at him.

Why is he holding his knees?

Because he doesn't have strong abs?

I thought there's no gravity.

These guys are hanging from waist

harnesses.

Wow.

Do you can see that?

I mean, it's plain as day.

I mean,

every single thing they tell us is a

manufactured lie.

I'm absolutely convinced of it.

Right.

This guy grabbed his wire.

This guy was, it was,

was floating out of the way and then,

you know, grab the wire and know this,

this here, watch this.

This guy,

this guy got stuck upside down and he

goes over here and he's,

he's pulls a lever and you've watched

right here when he pulls the lever,

all of you see that.

Oh yeah.

So he's trying to free them because this

was live and it was, it was so,

so pathetic.

But here's the interesting thing is

there's a company called,

I think it's called Z effects,

Z Z F X.

And it's a company that does green screens

and it's,

And it does, you know,

makes people fly with wires and green

screens.

What's interesting is if we just fast

forward here, this is the,

there's a whole bunch of other fails here.

But if we,

if we go to the end here,

if we go to the end,

this is their website,

which they've now taken down.

And if we look at a list of

their clients, guess who's on there.

Don't tell me NASA.

Absolutely.

Wow.

yeah if we go in nasa is right

there unbelievable there you go wow every

single wow every bit of it's fake it's

all fake so david i mean let me

ask you a couple more things because i

know people are going to want to know

how do we explain eclipses how do we

explain things like that if um if things

are set up the way you suspect

Well,

they tell us that a moon is in

front of the sun or the earth is

in front of the moon.

You know,

it blows my mind that I know for

as a kid,

I was taught that we see phases of

the moon because the sun is in between

the earth and it creates those phases.

Yeah, that's actually not true.

That's not even the heliocentric model,

but even globers get that wrong,

where that's an eclipse that does that,

a lunar eclipse,

but the phases of the moon in the

heliocentric model are just because of the

angle that the sun is hitting it,

which is a good explanation,

but the phases are not caused by the

Earth.

This is a picture of a lunar eclipse,

and we have this curved shadow,

and Bill Nye,

the lion guy with the bow tie,

will tell you,

that only a sphere can cast a curved

shadow onto another sphere from any angle.

Sounds good, right?

But when you use a sphere to cast

a shadow on another sphere,

the curves cancel each other out and you

get a straight line.

This is a sphere and we're using another

shadow,

another ball to cast a shadow on it.

Now,

This is done by my friend Anthony bear.

And he's got a setup in his garage

and he has it to scale.

He's got the sun in the distance.

He's got the earth and then the moon

at the proper distance away.

When he puts, we put the moon.

We first, he does it halfway.

So the earth shadow on the moon,

look at that shadow.

It's perfectly straight.

Wow.

It's not a curve shadow.

And the same thing happens down at the

other end.

So that's problem number one with a lunar

eclipse, right?

A lunar eclipse.

The other issue with a lunar eclipse is

this.

A lunar eclipse is when the Earth comes

into perfect alignment with the sun and

the moon and causes a shadow on the

moon, right?

All right.

Right?

So the Earth is going to move up.

The eclipse hasn't started yet.

It moves up.

Oh, look, the eclipse started.

This makes sense.

Right?

And that's what we would say.

Correct?

Right.

Right?

And so now the eclipse is over.

So there's a thing called the Selenillian

eclipse.

The Selenillian eclipse is when the

observer...

can see the sun and the moon both

above his horizon,

which means if you're always on the top

of a ball and you see the sun

above your left horizon and the moon above

your right or vice versa,

that means the eclipse hasn't started yet,

right?

Right.

Right,

because they're both above the horizon.

It means you're not in alignment.

Well,

the eclipse does start why that happens.

And the last one came in from the

top.

This is the actual, what we saw,

And this is what we should have seen

from that observer because the Earth is

coming up in between.

But this is what we saw.

Do you know what scientists call the

selenillion?

It's probably because they can't pronounce

selenillion.

They call it the impossible eclipse.

Really?

That's what they call it,

the impossible eclipse.

The sun and the moon make their cycles

in between the tropics.

The sun takes six months to go from

the Tropic of Capricorn to the Tropic of

Cancer.

The moon does it every two weeks,

two weeks in, two weeks out.

And it's when they pass these nodal

points.

Again, this isn't the scale.

Everybody relax, right?

When they pass the nodal points,

that's when an eclipse happens.

Now, I'm not a hundred percent sure.

Or what is darkening the moon?

It's not the Earth.

But the question is on a solar eclipse.

Now,

a solar eclipse is allegedly when the moon

blocks the sun.

Right?

Right.

Don't you think it would be cool if

NASA filmed the Earth,

the solar eclipse from space?

They've never done it.

The ISS guys were up there,

solar eclipse was happening,

and they didn't film it.

So here's the question.

Is it the moon going in front of

the sun?

Here,

when we see an eclipse of the sun,

we don't see the moon.

We think we see the moon,

but we just see missing sun.

Look, missing sun.

We don't see the moon.

We assume it's the moon going in front

of the sun.

Now, how come we don't see the moon?

Well,

because the backside of the moon's lit.

Well,

you know how on a full moon night,

you can read a book by the moon.

It casts your shadow on the ground.

That's from the moonshine.

Right.

So during a total eclipse,

when the sun is completely eclipsed,

the earth shine on the moon would be

way brighter than the moonshine on the

earth during a full moon.

It should light up the moon,

but no one has ever seen the moon

during an eclipse.

They just see missing sun.

Do you want to know my theory on

that?

Sure.

Yeah.

the moon or whatever is blocking the sun

is not going in front of the sun.

It's not going behind the,

not going in front of the sun.

It's going behind the sun.

Let me show you.

So this is actually,

I filmed this eclipse missing,

missing sun, missing sun.

So, and by the way,

seeing an eclipse is very cool.

And if you've been to a total eclipse,

I highly recommend it.

But the last time when they had a

total eclipse, they went from, you know,

um,

California all the way up across New York.

And they chemtrailed the crap out of the

skies on that entire path so bad that

we almost didn't get to see it.

So here is a day, this is a,

it wasn't a total eclipse and the sky

was hazy.

So I'm taking a picture and it's not

blowing out the lens because there was a

lot of

Fog, we'll call it in the sky.

But this is an eclipse.

Can't see the moon.

Sun is being blocked.

Cool.

Well, here is my projected eclipse.

Projected.

So behind this paper towel,

I'll call the paper towel my sky screen.

I believe on a flat Earth that we

see the sky in our atmospheric dome of

vision.

So this is my sky screen.

Behind it, I'm projecting a light onto it.

and I'm eclipsing it with a Snapple bottle

cap.

Can you see the Snapple bottle cap?

No, you can't, right?

Now this is a real eclipse.

It's about eighty-five percent eclipsed.

And we see that.

What is that?

Now, this is a lens flare.

It's moving around as we move the lens.

But this one is locked into position with

the sun.

What is that?

Right?

The sun is eclipsed this much,

but it's so bright,

it's blowing out the lens a little bit.

But if you put a filter,

you would see that the eclipse is the

same as this and same as the lens

flare.

So what is it?

I say this is the real sun.

This is the sky screen.

So let me show you what I mean

by that.

So you don't see my eclipsing bottle cap,

but here's a side view.

I'm projecting onto here.

There's the bottle cap, right?

So the bottle cap is going in front

of the real sun,

but it's behind the sun that we see.

Understand?

Right.

So that's interesting, but I said,

wait a minute.

What if the sky is more transparent?

Like I can't see through this paper towel

very much.

This is just the light being projected on

it.

So if I made the sky more transparent

with this tissue paper,

and here comes the eclipse thing behind

it, right?

So here we see,

this is the sun that we see.

We don't see the bottle cap.

It's eclipsing the sun.

Here, I'm just looking through the sheet.

This is the source sun.

The bottle cap is right here in front

of it, blocking it,

blocking the projection.

Make sense?

Right.

And then when we compare that to what

we saw in the sky with the real

eclipse, it's the same thing.

This is what we saw in the sky.

This is the shape that was locked in.

to the sun.

And this is my model eclipse.

That is a very interesting theory.

Wow.

I've never heard that before.

Man, that is crazy.

So here's the thing.

Belief is the enemy of knowing as crow

triple seven radio says,

belief is the enemy of knowing and belief

is easy.

You can believe that I'm in Mexico right

now,

or you can know that I'm not a

Mexico by doing a little research, right?

But it's easier to believe it takes no

effort on my app.

which is the Flat Earth, Sun,

Moon and Zodiac clock app.

The frequently asked questions section,

you go here and right here is eclipses.

There's all tons of videos,

including that one on here.

All of your frequently asked questions are

here.

Ships over the horizon,

where does the sun go, seasons.

And my most than the best one is

why the lie?

That's fantastic.

By the way,

you can see this on my website,

also flatearthdave.com.

And what I tell people is don't believe

anything I say, verify everything.

And if you think that I'm a whack

job, I'm a scammer,

as all the trolls will say that,

you know, I'm a con man, whatever,

come collect my Bitcoins.

Disgrace me, right?

Take them.

Wow.

One last question, Dave,

and we'll get you out of here.

But there's been a lot in the news

as of late.

People like Dr.

Jack Cruz have talked about this shifting

pole and the magnetism and the

consequences that are going to be

resulting as that unfolds.

What are your thoughts on that part?

Supposedly,

the North Pole went from Canada and it's

over in Russia now.

Do you have a position on any of

that?

I think it's all nonsense.

I think, you know,

our magnetic fields do shift around a

little bit.

There is no South pole,

no matter where you are on earth,

the compass will point to the North pole

right here, right?

In the South,

it points North and the North,

it points North.

It points to the north.

It doesn't point to the south.

Compasses should not work on the equator.

If the earth was a globe,

they should be fighting on which direction

to go.

Compasses only work on a level plane.

Airplanes fly level over a flat plane.

Water lays flat,

doesn't curve over a ball.

You can't have high pressure air adjacent

to a void of no air.

Well, gravity holds it down.

Well,

we can prove that gravity doesn't hold air

down.

We can do a simple experiment.

We get a box of a vacuum box

and poke a hole in the bottom or

the top and air will go right into

it.

at any altitude, right?

So where's gravity?

Like we can take a box of air,

put it in a vacuum chamber and then

poke a hole in the top and the

air will fly right out and equalize

instantly.

Why doesn't gravity hold it in, right?

The whole gravity, you know,

gravity is never been tested,

never been proven.

People go,

what about the Cavendish experiment?

Cavendish experiment,

globers don't even use that anymore.

It was two lead balls in a barn

and over a course of a day or

two, they went towards each other.

Well,

you have to account for electrostatics.

And who says that the center of those

balls are attracting each other and not

the surface, right?

Here's the thing.

People don't want to learn again.

People hated school because deep down

inside,

they knew they were being taught complete

and total nonsense.

Have you looked into the old world?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

So on my app,

if you go to the Griffin button right

here, the old world stuff here,

my lunch break, are you a fan?

Oh, yeah.

He's the best.

Kenny is the absolute best.

Watch this stuff.

You'll get addicted to it.

It's unbelievable.

It's amazing.

It's absolutely amazing.

All sorts of stuff in here to help

wake you up.

And one of my favorites is The Lost

History of Flat Earth.

Have you watched that one?

No, I haven't seen that one.

So when this one first came out a

bunch of years ago, it's five hours.

It's over five hours.

And people send it to me.

I'm like,

I'm not watching a five-hour video.

And a bunch of people sent it to

me and I had it like saved for

a while.

And one night at eleven o'clock,

I'm cleaning up my office.

I said,

let me just throw this thing on,

see what people are talking about.

Five minutes later,

I wasn't cleaning anymore.

Next thing I know, it's four a.m.

I'm like, mother effer,

what the hell just happened?

Went to work, came home, watched it again.

Watched a five-hour video twice in one

day.

There is no way to watch this video

and not change your view of the world

a thousand percent if you believe you live

on a globe and if you believe we're

at the peak of intelligence, right?

We're literally in the closing credits of

idiocracy right now.

Wow.

I couldn't have said it.

Well,

I can't think of a better way to

end this show.

Dave, where does everybody find it?

And by the way, man,

your app is so incredibly helpful for

anybody that's wanting to navigate their

way through this thing.

And, you know,

they might have some questions.

Certainly they will.

Any thinking person would.

How does everybody get a hold of you

and how do they get your app?

All you have to remember is

FlatEarthDave.com because the app is right

there.

But let me just show you.

People say, oh, there's no Flat Earthers.

These are the Flat Earthers that have my

app that are using the Friend Finder,

right?

It's incredible.

This is worldwide.

There's two hundred and thirty four

thousand,

almost two hundred thirty five thousand UK

people.

Right.

Worldwide.

On the app, I also have a matchmaker.

Right.

You click the little heart and you can

check out profiles.

I'm interested in women within five

hundred miles that are between this age.

And then you can swipe from profile to

profile.

People have gotten married and had kids

because of this already,

which is fantastic.

That's why I made it to connect people.

The app does amazing things.

The bookstore.

If you have a book that's a flat

earth book,

you can submit your book right here.

Boom.

You do it on the website also and

the book club.

And there's tons of books here.

If you're looking for books,

you just go down here.

Categories.

Let's say I want to get a kid's

book.

Find kids.

Bam.

Here are a bunch of books for kids.

And anything you want, more land,

look up that.

The app does basically everything you

could possibly think of.

You're looking for pictures.

Someone says,

what about the sun under clouds?

Sun under,

and here's a bunch of pictures explaining

how the sun's not going underneath clouds.

It just appears to.

So anything you want,

there's thousands of pictures in there,

more being added all the time.

Biblical page.

And I tell people,

if you believe in the Bible or are

anti-Bible,

you need to watch all of these videos

because they'll absolutely blow your mind.

And...

That's it.

FlatEarthDave.com.

And by the way,

I just redid FlatEarthDave.com.

On the bottom left corner, I got Stella,

my assistant.

She'll help you find anything you want on

the website.

You can say, you know, hey,

where do I find videos on this?

She'll give you a link.

She'll show you where it is on the

website.

On the bottom right, I have AI Dave.

You can ask him any question about Flat

Earth and he answers in my voice.

And sometimes he answers it better than I

can.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

Well, Dave,

I can't thank you enough for coming on,

man.

Well, I mean, good night, man.

I know this is a big...

For those who have never heard this

before,

and I'm not sure how many haven't at

this point...

You got a lot of homework to do,

and honestly, it can be fun.

It really can be fun when you start

realizing that everything you've been told

is a lie.

And I mean,

just about every single thing out there,

folks.

In fact,

I made it plain before that the only

thing that I'm one hundred percent sure

about is Jesus is my Lord and Savior.

Outside of that,

I'm not so sure what's real anymore.

Thanks a lot for coming on, Dave.

I do appreciate it.

And one day we got to talk about,

especially after

in a couple of months or so from

now, we've got to talk about this thing.

Yeah.

See, okay,

now we can't touch on it right now,

but there's a device that's being made for

me right now.

And, folks, as you know,

I'm a biohacker on steroids these days,

and you can't be.

I mean, you can't help but be.

When I'm being sprayed like a roach every

single day, well,

I talked about the chemtrail buster that I

have over here,

even had the scientists on that did it.

Todd Pitner,

we had him on talking about it.

Todd hooked me up with Dave regarding some

other tech that is on the way here,

and we're going to find out just how

well it works.

It's absolutely incredible.

I'll show you.

I lift up my magic green screen here.

There's mine right there.

I'm never far from it.

Wow.

Yeah, it looks like a flux capacitor, bro.

So I can't wait.

I can't wait to find out exactly how

that thing's going to work for us.

But we'll definitely have to have you back

and talk about it if you're willing to

do it.

I know that there's some things that you

may not be willing to talk about.

I'm happy to talk about all that stuff.

What I say about this is I let

people...

It has to find you.

You have to understand.

I don't make any claims about it,

but once you understand what this thing

does, it's absolutely mind-blowing.

I have links to it on my website.

You can ask me questions.

I have a YouTube channel.

Figure it out.

See if it resonates with you.

Well, that's what I'm talking about.

Well, ladies and gentlemen,

that's Flat Earth Dave.

I know it's not permaculture,

preparedness, or practical living,

but in so many ways, it really is.

Don't worry.

We'll have Dave back on to talk about

not only this,

but also this device that I got on

the way.

You know the deal, y'all.

Until next time, stay alert, stay alive.

I'm moving.

Listen to the earth, they've got us.

Let's see the change.

Watch the world spin.

From the smallest sprout to the harmony

begin.

In the cycle of life,

where the magic's alive.

Turn it to the beat.

Feel the fire and thrive.

So much wisdom in the