<v Speaker 1>Jare you, Katy and Josh one hundred.

<v Speaker 2>I got a whole stack of stories here talking about

<v Speaker 2>technology in the world of digital And it's funny because

<v Speaker 2>this was actually brought up in my house the other

<v Speaker 2>day with me and Nick Knak.

<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what we were talking about, but.

<v Speaker 2>First, there's this story coming out about email apnea.

<v Speaker 1>And I've never thought.

<v Speaker 2>About this before, but I do occasionally suffer from email apnea.

<v Speaker 2>Mental health experts are saying a lot of people unconsciously

<v Speaker 2>stop breathing or take very shallow breaths while.

<v Speaker 1>You're reading your emails.

<v Speaker 2>It can also happen when you're texting or scrolling. It

<v Speaker 2>usually happens when we're concentrating or feeling pressure to respond,

<v Speaker 2>and this causes our bodies to interpret an incoming email

<v Speaker 2>almost as a threat, and we kind of tense up,

<v Speaker 2>hold our breath and have shallow breathing without even realizing it.

<v Speaker 1>I can see here.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so fun Like I have caught myself holding

<v Speaker 3>my breath.

<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean when you're.

<v Speaker 3>Text when I make videos, when I'm answering emails, all

<v Speaker 3>the things that are digital. When I'm doing it, I

<v Speaker 3>have found myself holding my breath quite often, like out

<v Speaker 3>of breath, like what has happened? Then I noticed I'm

<v Speaker 3>not breathing, and so gosh, I can't. I didn't realize

<v Speaker 3>that was the thing. I thought it was just me.

<v Speaker 2>I told you I had to go get some blood

<v Speaker 2>tests and stuff done, and I saw the email come

<v Speaker 2>in with those and clicking on that link and then

<v Speaker 2>go into your little patient portal or whatever and like

<v Speaker 2>reading all that, you're like, I caught myself like, yeah,

<v Speaker 2>I got you know, because I was like, I've had

<v Speaker 2>a little bit of anxiety over what I was going

<v Speaker 2>to read.

<v Speaker 1>So I was like, you gotta breathe, dude, and side out.

<v Speaker 1>I'm fine, Everything's fine.

<v Speaker 3>Okay, good.

<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But it basically it puts you into a fight

<v Speaker 2>or flight mode when you're reading these messages, texts, email, whatever.

<v Speaker 2>It will increase your anxiety and give you headaches, muscle tension,

<v Speaker 2>jaw clenching, and fatigue. So you've been warned. You've been

<v Speaker 2>warned of the email apneas, so make sure you're breathing

<v Speaker 2>while you read those work emails. Today, another story talking

<v Speaker 2>about how a majority of Americans believe that their software

<v Speaker 2>updates on their phone are making.

<v Speaker 1>Their devices worse rather than better.

<v Speaker 2>Hell's to the yesh it rearranges everything. You get new settings,

<v Speaker 2>your battery life tanks and for me, my iPad updated

<v Speaker 2>the other day, and I just keep coming more and

<v Speaker 2>more suspicious of all these updates in regards to now

<v Speaker 2>what are they tracking on me?

<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

<v Speaker 2>What are they putting onto my phone and my tablets

<v Speaker 2>that they're keeping notes on?

<v Speaker 1>They're collecting all my data?

<v Speaker 3>And especially once you realize what these updates are doing,

<v Speaker 3>and it's like changing the display to your Instagram to

<v Speaker 3>make the features more rounded, it's.

<v Speaker 1>Like I don't need that. I don't like it.

<v Speaker 3>I don't like that they do things like that, and

<v Speaker 3>that's what the update is. Well, protect me from the robots, yes,

<v Speaker 3>but I don't need rounded funds.

<v Speaker 2>But the ones that bug me are like all these

<v Speaker 2>AI updates now, and they can track what you're doing

<v Speaker 2>on your apps and who you're texting. It'll read your

<v Speaker 2>emails and give you a synopsis. It's like, I don't

<v Speaker 2>want any of that. How do I go in and

<v Speaker 2>immediately turn this off? And is it really turning it off?

<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't need you reading my emails and

<v Speaker 2>giving me a brief summary of what's I'll just read

<v Speaker 2>the email in my texts, you know.

<v Speaker 3>Did the robots hold their breath when they read my

<v Speaker 3>email too?

<v Speaker 1>This is a bad one. It is a bad one,

<v Speaker 1>and me to b to be But.

<v Speaker 2>It did lead to a conversation between me and my

<v Speaker 2>wife the other night, Nick Knack, that we were just

<v Speaker 2>sitting in our office and we were just kind of

<v Speaker 2>adding up all the apps and the things we have

<v Speaker 2>to think about digitally when it comes to your you know,

<v Speaker 2>just banking. And then it was like the kids sports

<v Speaker 2>have a separate app, Our works have an app. I

<v Speaker 2>can't even go to Chili's anymore without an app.

<v Speaker 1>I know, my oil change guys got an app.

<v Speaker 3>And it's like everybody thanks, It's an app for everything,

<v Speaker 3>and it is a lot. Not only does it bog

<v Speaker 3>our phones down. I do feel like our minds, our

<v Speaker 3>brains are being filled with way too much information, Like

<v Speaker 3>we're not built for it.

<v Speaker 1>It's bad.

<v Speaker 2>And then to think about like every streaming service you have,

<v Speaker 2>and keeping track of what streaming services you have, and

<v Speaker 2>then the costs associated with those. And now I've got

<v Speaker 2>four or five programs that I use for work now

<v Speaker 2>all have an app and a cost attached to it.

<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I looked at her.

<v Speaker 2>I was like, at what point do we do we

<v Speaker 2>somehow figure out how we can do a digital detox

<v Speaker 2>and unplug from everything, But I don't think you can anymore.

<v Speaker 3>It's hard right now, possible because our work is requiring

<v Speaker 3>us to do it. First of all, So this is

<v Speaker 3>I got an opportunity to open a bank account and

<v Speaker 3>put like fourigner dollars in it, right, But I had

<v Speaker 3>to get my direct deposit from here figured out, right,

<v Speaker 3>Like I had to get it for the bank, but

<v Speaker 3>I had to download an app for my direct deposit here,

<v Speaker 3>plus the bank, plus a little like modification thing in between.

<v Speaker 1>There were three.

<v Speaker 3>Different but it was like, you know what, I don't

<v Speaker 3>need the four dollars.

<v Speaker 1>I don't need, never mine. I don't need it.

<v Speaker 3>And I canceled all of it because it was just

<v Speaker 3>so much. I just felt so inundated with why do

<v Speaker 3>you need me to do all this?

<v Speaker 2>It's anxiety inducing, it's too much to think about. I mean,

<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at my phone right now, like I need

<v Speaker 2>an app to run my sprinklers. I have an app

<v Speaker 2>for my thermostat, I have an app to go into

<v Speaker 2>the gym. They won't even let me in the gym

<v Speaker 2>unless I have their app. I've got a couple of

<v Speaker 2>new TVs. Guess what all the TVs they run off

<v Speaker 2>the app. I bought a new soundbar for one of

<v Speaker 2>the TVs. It doesn't come with a remote. I got

<v Speaker 2>to use the app to control the volume.

<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's too.

<v Speaker 3>Much light and houses are all controlled by apps now,

<v Speaker 3>the cameras, the alarm systems, you know.

<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have a pizza app. I can only

<v Speaker 1>order pizza. I do like that pizza ap though it's

<v Speaker 1>pretty solid. Let me get on an app and it

<v Speaker 1>comes right to your cat. That one can stay. That's fine.

<v Speaker 2>But anyway, I mean, I don't know if anyone has

<v Speaker 2>any thoughts on this or ways you're getting around it,

<v Speaker 2>Like how are you doing a digital detox? How are

<v Speaker 2>you trying to avoid some of this and reduce some

<v Speaker 2>of the pressure and anxiety to be on your phone constantly.

<v Speaker 2>I can't even call my doctor now and make an appointment.

<v Speaker 2>I have to go through some sort of website or

<v Speaker 2>app to make an appointment.

<v Speaker 3>I can't even request vacation without downloading the app.

<v Speaker 1>You know, all of it Mike decided to call in.

<v Speaker 1>I'm mikey boy. Well we're super nopes. Body get here.

<v Speaker 4>Hey, So what I was saying to Joshua is, I

<v Speaker 4>don't know if you guys ever heard of Madlov's hierarchy

<v Speaker 4>of needs. And there's a pyramid. At the bottom of

<v Speaker 4>the pyramid is food, water, and shelter. And so I'm

<v Speaker 4>a project manager in construction. I've talked to you guys before,

<v Speaker 4>and so I can build a house all day long.

<v Speaker 4>But if there's no electricity, like if we were this

<v Speaker 4>country runsout electricity, which is possibly happening in the future,

<v Speaker 4>then you don't have anything to power your phone, which

<v Speaker 4>brings you the apps. And you want to talk about anarchy?

<v Speaker 4>What okay? So if people don't have electricity, the phones,

<v Speaker 4>the phones have the apps, and then especially like the

<v Speaker 4>the gen Z people, yeah.

<v Speaker 1>Our society.

<v Speaker 2>So you're basically saying that someday we're not going to

<v Speaker 2>have electricity.

<v Speaker 1>No, we're's if it happens.

<v Speaker 4>So we need to be able to get to the

<v Speaker 4>point where we can get back to using a pen

<v Speaker 4>or a piece of paper like.

<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I don't know, buddy, there's no going back now.

<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I think once we've unleashed it, it's kind

<v Speaker 3>of we just have to deal with what we have already,

<v Speaker 3>Like I think, so, I don't think there's any going back, Like.

<v Speaker 2>I'd actually have to get on my Amazon app to

<v Speaker 2>order some pins and papers exactly.

<v Speaker 1>I know. Oh that's going to work, my boy. All right, Mike,

<v Speaker 1>thank you for the

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