00:00.50
Naransi
Mine says ready to record.

00:04.14
Nandi K
All right.

00:04.31
Naransi
There we go. i think it's going.

00:05.24
Nandi K
Ready? Yep.

00:06.76
Naransi
Yep.

00:07.00
Nandi K
Welcome back to RightQuick.

00:14.30
Nandi K
No, it's okay.

00:19.70
Naransi
A bite-sized pop culture conversation with your favorite queer unfriendly black hotties.

00:25.75
Nandi K
Today we're unfriendly because capitalism seems to have killed patrons of the arts. I'm Nandi Kay.

00:34.29
Naransi
And I'm Naransi. And I'm unfriendly because it's Pride Month and Juneteenth and I have not done a single hood rat thing today.

00:43.12
Nandi K
Boo.

00:44.58
Naransi
Boo.

00:45.43
Nandi K
Our guest unfriendly Black hottie is back. Naranci, we're so happy to have you.

00:50.85
Naransi
I'm back.

00:52.02
Nandi K
That's sad that you haven't, i haven't done anything hoodrat today. What? I don't know. I don't think so. Yeah. Gotta do something before for the day's out.

01:01.77
Naransi
Yeah, do something in celebration of the day.

01:04.75
Nandi K
It's prior 18th.

01:04.79
Naransi
yeah

01:05.59
Nandi K
We're at our most powerful.

01:07.26
Naransi
Yes.

01:07.93
Nandi K
The queers are super powerful today. If you're Black and you're queer, our power up hit a hit us yeah hit a strike it with a brick you know what i might go to home depot and get a couple bricks

01:14.23
Naransi
yeah Yes. Go out and take over something.

01:28.12
Nandi K
yeah that might

01:29.18
Naransi
We love a good crafting project.

01:31.29
Nandi K
Yeah, i yeah, that yeah, that's what we might need to do a little bit of that. I'm also gonna watch a play today.

01:36.74
Naransi
Mm-hmm.

01:41.02
Nandi K
Some black queer folks that know, go to this writing group, I told you about it. um There's this like black queer writing group that I go to.

01:53.01
Naransi
Mm-hmm.

01:53.30
Nandi K
on Sundays that a friend of mine hosts and every quarter we do a feedback session and so some people bring their works and we read like the first 10 to 12 pages of whatever those works are it's really fun I mostly go to read as a reader and to just see what people are writing because I'm pretty I would say I ain't even really writing right now, but it's good to like take in a bunch of stuff.

01:53.53
Naransi
Mm-hmm.

02:03.80
Naransi
hu

02:21.84
Nandi K
And so they are something that was debuted at this feedback session is now being put on at theater in New York City.

02:31.58
Naransi
Oh, wow.

02:32.18
Nandi K
Yes, but they have a live stream ah performance of it.

02:36.28
Naransi
So you're gonna watch the stream?

02:37.66
Nandi K
so I'm going to watch the stream of it tonight. It's also at a theater I used to perform at. So that also feels really special.

02:42.35
Naransi
Oh, wow.

02:44.82
Nandi K
So I'm really excited for that tonight.

02:47.19
Naransi
No, I love this. i love this.

02:51.10
Nandi K
Yeah.

02:52.50
Naransi
Yeah, like I'm in the process of putting together a pitch for some prose writing here in Austin, like hosting.

02:58.82
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

03:00.60
Naransi
There's a lot of places that do poetry, and I facilitate even some of the poetry writing, but not a lot of places for Black folks to do dig into prose and you know me and that I love to write horror and all of that stuff.

03:09.94
Nandi K
Yeah.

03:12.54
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

03:13.85
Naransi
So I'm just thinking since I can't find anybody, I'll do it. I'll do it.

03:18.68
Nandi K
Yeah. Hey, ain't that the way? Ain't that the way? Well, no one's doing it.

03:26.01
Naransi
Yeah, I'll do it.

03:26.60
Nandi K
I guess I'll do it.

03:28.96
Naransi
But I looked and that is the difference between us and not us because we will go and look and see who's doing stuff and try to build community and other folks will just be like, I'm the only one.

03:42.46
Naransi
yes,

03:43.05
Nandi K
Who's ever thought of this? I'm the one who had this first idea.

03:44.76
Naransi
yes ever. Yeah.

03:47.38
Nandi K
Yeah, well, it's Juneteenth and we're off work, but today we are talking about creativity under capitalism, which I think no better day than Juneteenth, Pride Teeth, to talk about all the ways that

03:53.44
Naransi
Mm-hmm.

04:03.99
Naransi
Yeah.

04:07.29
Nandi K
creativity under capitalism has tried to be crushed or has thrived. But, well, yeah, working for a living is really ah the pits.

04:13.37
Naransi
Boo capitalism. Just boo capitalism. Ugh.

04:22.43
Naransi
I think it should be criminal, honestly. Nobody should have to work for a living. You're alive. So you should just be able to have food and a place to stay and water and clothes.

04:34.69
Nandi K
Tell me about it.

04:36.73
Naransi
I don't know what kind of horrible person that makes me, but I don't think that your ability to like contribute to making other people's money should be a factor in how well you can live your life.

04:48.57
Nandi K
I fully agree. Yeah. And I recently was laid off. So obviously there've been so many feelings that I've had about the way capitalism kind of comes crashing down around or crashing down on you really like when you lose your job.

05:00.49
Naransi
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

05:05.27
Naransi
Yes.

05:08.76
Nandi K
But

05:11.89
Nandi K
I also was feeling awful. Like I was not doing well at work.

05:16.60
Naransi
Mm-hmm,

05:19.10
Nandi K
I was stressed. And when I say I wasn't doing well at work, I mean me.

05:21.05
Naransi
mm-hmm.

05:23.54
Nandi K
i was I'm an incredible employee. My work was exemplary. But as a human being, i was very burned out. People were taking credit for my work.

05:36.54
Nandi K
People were making bad decisions.

05:36.85
Naransi
Oh.

05:38.66
Nandi K
And then I ended up losing my job, which I know wouldn't have happened if I wasn't Black.

05:47.58
Nandi K
And so it's it's pretty wild to be like, Yeah, it's been a wild ride and I'm still kind of like riding through it.

05:54.05
Naransi
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

05:56.18
Nandi K
But um really, I'm like, I still have a lot to do. Like, I've still found myself being like, you could even go slower because work wasn't the only thing I was doing.

06:06.62
Naransi
Yes.

06:10.39
Nandi K
And you're kind of in the throes of corporate, but you have some changes, right?

06:11.33
Naransi
Mm-hmm.

06:16.66
Naransi
I did, and I know, i don't think we talked about it on the last call, because we were too busy getting into that messy-ass book. um But like i literally, literally almost died at the end of January and was hospitalized for a while in ICU.

06:31.36
Nandi K
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

06:35.80
Naransi
And while I didn't lose my job, I was in the process of switching teams and basically ended up de facto switching teams by the time I got out of the hospital.

06:47.01
Naransi
and difference between the stress levels in the two roles as kind of night and day, which has given me this ability to stretch my wings creatively in ways that I hadn't had the energy to before.

07:02.68
Naransi
Because like you, I was feeling like really burnt out, really stressed, really like constantly, constantly under pressure.

07:05.30
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

07:11.16
Naransi
And to be able to have some of that lift and look around and go, wow, like I... could be doing my writing some more.

07:23.17
Naransi
I could be hosting these events.

07:23.75
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

07:26.65
Naransi
I could be like a real person that has creative ideas and isn't just like going to sleep at the end of the day and then getting up and doing chores and then working again.

07:31.15
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

07:38.08
Naransi
You know, like that's been such a relief like I feel more like myself in that way like I don't know that I felt like a human for a while

07:47.83
Nandi K
Yeah.

07:50.84
Nandi K
Yeah. I... It's so funny because I also got laid off like three years ago around the same time.

07:57.61
Naransi
mm-hmm mm-hmm

07:59.00
Nandi K
And that was when I started playing D&D right after that. And since then, i think that layoff really traumatized me because I was not expecting it.

08:10.95
Nandi K
It felt so completely out of the blue, but it was another case where...

08:11.50
Naransi
Um, uh-huh.

08:15.83
Nandi K
I was really unhappy because I was trying to do the work that needed to be done, but there were a lot of politics at the company that I didn't understand as like a newer employee

08:23.93
Naransi
Uh-huh.

08:26.73
Naransi
Uh-huh.

08:28.28
Nandi K
and Yeah, they really caught me off guard, but they really like did a good job at the layoff, I guess. Like they gave me health care through the end of the year.

08:41.27
Nandi K
um The severance was pretty generous.

08:44.44
Naransi
Okay, so they were decent-ish, even though,

08:44.73
Nandi K
um They were decent in it. Yeah, they were decent in it.

08:48.25
Naransi
yeah

08:49.18
Nandi K
Like it was like three months of severance, health care through the end of the year. And that was like seven months or eight months of health care or something like that.

08:55.87
Naransi
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

08:58.46
Nandi K
um ah Yeah, and and I ended up getting like a contract role maybe like three or four months after that to like tie me over until I got into the role that I just got laid out for.

09:08.41
Naransi
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

09:10.91
Nandi K
But in that time, when I was like off work, started playing D&D, I realized I hadn't really like played in like life.

09:21.72
Naransi
we don't let people, we don't let people play, especially grownups, but like even kids now.

09:21.72
Nandi K
And that... Yeah...

09:28.18
Nandi K
Yeah, I didn't have a lot of play in my life.

09:28.52
Naransi
Mm-hmm.

09:30.34
Nandi K
Like as a kid, that's what I was kind of like reflecting on. I just I was starting to like play these tabletop role playing games.

09:37.66
Naransi
Mm-hmm.

09:38.04
Nandi K
And I obviously had deep grief over that. But then I was so happy that I found it. And I've been incorporating more and more play into my life, making it more of a habit.

09:50.20
Naransi
Mm-hmm.

09:50.65
Nandi K
And even though work was kind of bullshit, I had enough creative projects that became a habit that there were some things that I was still showing up to like this podcast.

10:00.06
Naransi
Yeah, yeah. here

10:04.70
Naransi
yeah yeah

10:05.62
Nandi K
I've been doing some D&D streams. I was doing streams and stuff like that, but. Yeah, it was draining me. I couldn't really do nothing else. It was hard for me to get out of bed.

10:16.19
Nandi K
I was getting out of bed and going right to my computer, which is not even my normal.

10:19.58
Naransi
Same. No. And that's not healthy for you to roll out of bed and open a laptop like that's not you don't even your brain doesn't even get a chance to think about the fact that you're awake.

10:26.36
Nandi K
Yeah, yeah.

10:32.10
Naransi
You're just like suddenly on and then boom stress. Like what happened while I was away from the computer? How many Slack messages are there?

10:37.95
Nandi K
Right.

10:38.82
Naransi
How many things are in my email inbox?

10:40.79
Nandi K
Yeah.

10:41.14
Naransi
Like Who's going to be mad today? Like that whole thing is so, so detrimental to personhood.

10:51.93
Nandi K
Yeah.

10:52.28
Naransi
And then Americans do this really like weird thing where we equate whatever your job role is to how much respect we're supposed to give you as a person.

11:03.51
Nandi K
Yeah.

11:04.31
Naransi
And so if you don't have like job role A or job role B,

11:04.60
Nandi K
yeah

11:12.00
Naransi
strangers don't know where to place you in their level of like personal esteem.

11:14.13
Nandi K
Yep.

11:17.32
Naransi
It's like, we can't just give people basic decency.

11:17.66
Nandi K
Yeah.

11:20.04
Naransi
We have to understand what your tax bracket is before we can treat you like a person.

11:26.55
Nandi K
yeah

11:26.87
Naransi
And, you know, it's just this weird, like a click, but worse, you know?

11:36.92
Nandi K
yeah yeah it is Yeah, because it's not based on anything. you know like yeah it's not really based on anything.

11:41.85
Naransi
No, it's not based on anything at all. And it makes you shun people for no good reason.

11:54.65
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah, damn, that really made me think, like, when I be at work, I really hate people who are bad at their jobs. Like, and I think this is, like, a this is, like, kind of a bad thing.

12:08.59
Nandi K
Like, people should low-key be allowed to be bad at their jobs for a while.

12:10.53
Naransi
I don't know.

12:14.87
Naransi
If they're just learning, but like, you gotta be competent at some point.

12:15.06
Nandi K
But... Yeah, there's definitely a limit.

12:20.22
Naransi
There is a limit.............

12:20.34
Nandi K
There's definitely a limit. um There's definitely a limit. But yeah, I really. you when people are bad at their jobs, especially I think in corporate, it's easier for me to like not treat them like human beings.

12:36.79
Nandi K
I try not to talk to people who are bad at their jobs.

12:37.14
Naransi
get that

12:40.23
Nandi K
I actually would rather pretend they're not there

12:44.18
Naransi
And see, that's kindness, though. Like you're not going you're not going out of your way to look down on them.

12:45.91
Nandi K
They have to interface with them. Yeah.

12:50.22
Naransi
And I will admit that I have a certain amount of trauma on incompetence, like incompetent people set me off because of the way people have weaponized incompetence in my past.

12:56.94
Nandi K
Same. Yeah.

13:00.47
Nandi K
Mm-hmm. Yes.

13:01.46
Naransi
So I get that. But at the same time, you're not thinking, oh, you don't deserve to eat just because you're bad at this job. You're thinking, why do you have this job?

13:12.43
Naransi
Go do something that you're, yes, something else.

13:13.75
Nandi K
something else. Yes.

13:16.58
Naransi
Go do something else, something that you're good at.

13:17.21
Nandi K
Yeah.

13:19.14
Naransi
Why are you lying? Why are you wasting my time? Why are you, you know, making it harder when it's already hard enough for people like you and me?

13:22.04
Nandi K
Yeah.

13:31.35
Naransi
Because, I will tell you right now, I've had to have conversations. It's like, I can't get mad at work.

13:39.06
Nandi K
Mm hmm.

13:39.51
Naransi
If I get angry, suddenly I'm an angry black woman. Nevermind that I'm non-binary because I'm not really out at work like that.

13:45.18
Nandi K
I be getting mad. I be snapping.

13:47.64
Naransi
I don't, I did not. At the time i was customer facing, i would get fired just like flat out fired.

13:49.78
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah. Real. Yeah.

13:54.10
Naransi
And so

13:54.33
Nandi K
Yeah.

13:56.98
Naransi
You then are like policing yourself. It's like, oh, is my passion going to come across as anger or is my conviction going to come across as anger?

14:05.88
Nandi K
Yeah.

14:07.74
Naransi
And you learn all of these little softening techniques. And by the time you're done softening yourself, you're just like this little tiny wad of tissue paper.

14:15.86
Nandi K
And you're about to die.

14:17.30
Naransi
And you're about to die.

14:18.46
Nandi K
Yeah.

14:19.19
Naransi
Good on me for not dying.

14:19.48
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah, that's one thing that really motivated me to try to move away from the customer face and side. Because when I really started experiencing burnout at a super high level was in 2019 and where

14:27.02
Naransi
Mm-hmm.

14:34.02
Naransi
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

14:35.64
Nandi K
i had had 150 accounts or something like that.

14:40.63
Naransi
Oh, Jesus Christ.

14:40.64
Nandi K
And I was the main person. i was the only person.

14:43.13
Naransi
No.

14:44.26
Nandi K
And then they brought in someone who was supposed to help me, who was literally illiterate. Literally, i would send them a message and they would respond with something that I did not say.

14:57.02
Nandi K
It was so frustrating. I used to cry all the time from just the sheer workload. I would have to work till 10 o'clock. My boss in Ireland will also be working.

15:09.88
Nandi K
until forever who is like another woman and yeah I was like I have to get away from customers um because I was like this is like killing me customer being customer facing because you can low-key snap on your co-workers a little bit more yeah

15:24.76
Naransi
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

15:31.77
Naransi
A little bit depending on what's going on because you can be like,

15:34.12
Nandi K
I'd be snapping on my coworkers. I don't care. Because one thing, um i have to find somebody to either snap to that I can vent to or I'm going to snap on my boss.

15:38.64
Naransi
huh

15:43.13
Naransi
Now, I did vent to... I did vent too. I did vent. Like we had, there were folks that we vented together. Like what even was that?

15:52.48
Nandi K
Yeah.

15:53.10
Naransi
I can't believe that, you know, whatever, whatever.

15:53.59
Nandi K
Yeah.

15:56.02
Naransi
But I was lucky.

15:56.02
Nandi K
Yeah.

15:57.74
Naransi
Like all of my coworkers on customer side for the most part were really good. And then like the one person who was my nemesis for a while ended up wanting to be my bestie because

16:03.51
Nandi K
well yeah

16:12.63
Nandi K
well ah well shame shame

16:12.76
Naransi
this person realized that I was really good at my job and that they couldn't, you know, like take the credit for themselves because they didn't understand what I was doing.

16:24.41
Naransi
yeah It's a shame. It's a shame. Then they tried to be my bestie and then they moved to another team. Farewell. Farewell.

16:33.46
Nandi K
Yeah, so since you have made kind of like this shift where you switch teams, what in your life has changed?

16:40.00
Naransi
Mm-hmm.

16:43.63
Nandi K
Like, what are you up to? Hmm.

16:47.53
Naransi
Oh my gosh, so many things. so there's a poetry group that meets on Tuesdays here in Austin, most Tuesdays. And I facilitated a couple of the Tuesday workshops doing different kinds of poetry, got a lot of great feedback there, um started helping one of my best friends, working on like co-producing a show that we used to do, um a couple of years back last year we didn't do it because there was you know like a whole ah family emergency situation that happened so we couldn't do it but this year we did for black fey day and we took up over the entire george washington carver museum here in austin and that was amazing loved it so much all the little babies dressed as fairies i got to read books to them Oh, the story time was amazing.

17:30.06
Nandi K
Yes. Yes.

17:35.70
Nandi K
Yes, I saw the video. So cute.

17:41.52
Naransi
And now we're doing this show called Legend of the Realms, where each month is a different kind of competition. This month it was singers and we had some of the most amazing performers.

17:56.55
Nandi K
Yeah.

17:57.37
Naransi
And next month in July is my month and it's all the poets. So it's basically going to be a poetry slam plus an activation.

18:02.89
Nandi K
Woo-hoo. Damn.

18:08.81
Naransi
I'm planning all kinds of like writing and word based activations. I can't let the cat out of the bag about what those are. But if you're following me, Neuron C dot speaks on Instagram. Some of that stuff will get out in drips and drops before we go. And then we also have this activation called Healing House, where we basically attune to all five senses and really help people to do things like process grief or shame or fear and to be in community. um

18:42.55
Naransi
This past lore, we had vendors, we have food, food.

18:46.38
Nandi K
Yum. I always need food, so I love to hear that.

18:48.98
Naransi
Yes, yes. So it's awesome. If you're local, i hope you'll come out and have fun and be in community with us. And if you're not, I hope you'll enjoy all the videos. And some point I have to get back on it. I have a little like character based thread for the entity that I'm playing for this role.

19:10.43
Naransi
Their name is Wist and I'm basically playing them as um a deity that has come to this very small planet and is quite confused about how very, very ghetto it is here.

19:24.66
Nandi K
well well well it seems like you're outside that's great you wasn't really outside me neither yeah I wasn't outside

19:30.33
Naransi
Yes, yes, I get to be outside. i was not. And that's a shame because I'm cute. I should be outside. We should be outside. You're cute too.

19:39.13
Nandi K
Yeah, I also kind of have started going outside, which is i really struggle with being outside. But I've had some fun. like It's just like i I moved back to my hometown now.

19:54.91
Naransi
oh my gosh

19:55.11
Nandi K
Five years ago, and I haven't really been outside because it was COVID. And I moved from New York to Florida where there was no COVID, in quotes.

20:05.83
Nandi K
covid it wasn't Florida wasn't having COVID in the same way.

20:09.27
Naransi
oh my gosh

20:11.80
Nandi K
And...

20:12.69
Naransi
COVID was having Florida, much in the same way COVID was having Texas.

20:17.24
Nandi K
listen exactly and so it was super weird moving back and feeling comfortable being out so I'm just starting to be back out yeah yeah since I got laid off though really i've been kind of like trying to rest I really fell off all my routines um I was staying up late now

20:28.28
Naransi
Just starting to get there. I see it. I see it.

20:39.83
Naransi
This is good. Mm-hmm.

20:46.94
Nandi K
I love staying up late. That's one thing I still have been doing, but I'm like, I can stay up late. I just have to adjust my routines to staying up late.

20:58.21
Naransi
Mm-hmm.

20:59.07
Nandi K
I don't know if that's going to happen because I like to work out when it's total darkness. But don't know. We're working on it. We're not to the working out part again yet.

21:09.61
Nandi K
I'm just, yeah, I'm not there yet.

21:09.61
Naransi
We're not gonna worry about that. This is not about perfection. This is about...

21:12.57
Nandi K
Yeah, I'm not even there yet, but I'm like i'm back to like trying to get my eight hours done. whatever that looks like.

21:19.15
Naransi
mm-hmm.

21:20.75
Nandi K
And I'm still keeping up on my things. So like my podcast is still going. I have two more podcasts that are in like some form of pre-production.

21:27.31
Naransi
Awesome.

21:35.80
Nandi K
So like the actual play, that's like the all black tabletop actual play. We did our like prologue session of that i have like a music podcast that i'm trying to figure out and develop with a friend we have right quick which we're gonna be hitting a year soon want to think about what's the next level of that um and i'm like

21:53.74
Naransi
Mm-hmm.

21:57.00
Naransi
Yay.

22:03.22
Nandi K
thinking about what does it look like for me to work for myself, to provide my styling services, to provide my production services, to provide my voice acting services.

22:07.88
Naransi
Ooh.

22:13.06
Naransi
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

22:16.65
Nandi K
I do i do so much shit. It's honestly wild how many skills and talents I have. So I'm just like, if ah if these white people with all these millions of dollars can squander all this bullshit,

22:33.21
Nandi K
They squandered $34 million dollars in 10 months.

22:42.23
Nandi K
Yeah, so listen, I'm set for life.

22:43.15
Naransi
Let somebody give me $34 million dollars for

22:48.22
Nandi K
And so is everyone I know.

22:49.59
Naransi
live

22:50.74
Nandi K
Everyone I know is set for life if I get $34 million.

22:50.84
Naransi
yes

22:54.34
Nandi K
dollars

22:55.77
Naransi
give us thirty four million dollars

22:56.09
Nandi K
None of us ever work. him Yeah, we can we can do that. And for myself, sewing. I have really loved sewing. It is such a fun...

23:09.18
Nandi K
i think I use all the same...

23:09.34
Naransi
Seeing your designs has been fun.

23:11.34
Nandi K
I think all the same skills that I use for like product management and like how I think about critical thinking and solving puzzles and stuff like that.

23:22.36
Nandi K
All those things come together.

23:22.62
Naransi
Mm-hmm.

23:24.66
Nandi K
in sewing and it's really fun it's a little tough because there's also things that I am not used to doing like measuring and being precise but it's really fun because I have to take my time and I can't there's rushing is just the worst thing so I've been really loving that it's been nice

23:27.78
Naransi
Mm-hmm.

23:42.88
Naransi
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

23:51.89
Naransi
I've been loving seeing the designs that you shared with us. Like, the pants are so cute.

23:57.05
Nandi K
Yeah, I love the pants. Yeah, I want to make more. If I can get them perfect, it would be great. But it's also hot, so now I got to make some shorts. ah But yeah, what do you think the dream is? Like, what's the dream of your life balance?

24:16.56
Naransi
Oh my gosh, like if I could just take the magic wand and hold it, I'm not gonna wave it, I'm just gonna keep it.

24:22.53
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

24:24.09
Naransi
Like we're not gonna waste wishes.

24:24.39
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

24:26.87
Naransi
I think what I would do is create a multidisciplinary creative studio.

24:34.50
Nandi K
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

24:34.65
Naransi
And by that, I mean, i would want to foster writers, including myself, but also game development, um also plays and movies, like all black media, everything and queer, super, super fucking queer.

24:34.82
Nandi K
Yeah. Yep. Mm-hmm.

24:53.72
Naransi
And i would just sustain it. with my own thing. like Nobody has to worry about outside investors deciding whether or not this thing is commercial, giving us ownership of our own stories because that's how you create a sense of self and then that's how you co-create a sense of community.

25:15.84
Naransi
And if I could do anything, it would be that. like I would have my entire creative studio.

25:21.08
Nandi K
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

25:24.24
Naransi
It would be some kind of corporation that's like not even tied to capitalism like our profits are going to making community stronger community better and would be a safe space for all of these ideas that actually challenge capitalism so being supportive of the most vulnerable in our community giving space for people to grow, holding people in and accountability in loving ways.

25:52.16
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah.

25:58.82
Naransi
Because one of the things that I've been seeing is that when people try to build these things, there's always some kind of conflict that tries to tear it down from, you know,

26:11.96
Naransi
all manner of ways but just having a whole ethos and a whole way of being that just fosters that community and i would start it here and I would grow it and it would be global and we would all get our play time we would all get our play time

26:33.08
Nandi K
oh I love playing. It's definitely one of my favorite activities now that i have discovered such a joy.

26:38.64
Naransi
mm-hmm

26:42.62
Nandi K
i think my dream is I really want to have a farm that all my friends can come live on, an acorn of sorts, like in Parable of the Sower.

26:53.14
Naransi
Oh, I love that.

26:53.69
Nandi K
But obviously I don't want us to get overrun or any of those things.

26:56.92
Naransi
Obviously.

26:58.90
Nandi K
But love

26:59.29
Naransi
Only the good parts of it.

27:00.60
Nandi K
Yeah, all the good parts of Acorn. We don't have to have like a church or anything. That part's a little weird. um But I like for us to have like tenants that we live by that everyone agrees to, like everyone has to help.

27:13.69
Nandi K
I would love to have a kind of center like that on the land, like us absolutely what you said, a multidis multidisciplinary space.

27:17.64
Naransi
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

27:25.59
Nandi K
um Yeah, where we grow our own food and are maybe able to sell some of that as a profit as well. Like maybe I want to build my own house so I can be the final boss lesbian.

27:39.69
Nandi K
Unimpeachable among lesbians. Because that I think, if I can build my own house, I think that lesbians can't deny me. Like...

27:48.41
Naransi
I mean, if you build your own house, all the femmes have to come live in it.

27:53.28
Nandi K
Nah.

27:53.98
Naransi
We have to like come, we have to come flock, we have to come flock to you and say please.

27:54.07
Nandi K
I won't be having any of that, but Well, you can come flock. I'll have an electrified fence.

28:01.05
Naransi
Exclusive flocks.

28:02.18
Nandi K
Yeah, very exclusive flock.

28:02.87
Naransi
be

28:04.34
Nandi K
Very exclusive flock. Electrified fence for the rest.

28:10.74
Naransi
Oh my God.

28:10.93
Nandi K
Can't be letting all the birds in.

28:12.76
Naransi
Oh my God.

28:13.18
Nandi K
Only the special birds.

28:13.44
Naransi
Only the best, only the best ones, only the best ones.

28:14.62
Nandi K
Yeah. Only the most beautiful birds with the best hearts and the biggest...

28:19.45
Naransi
Oh my goodness.

28:20.36
Nandi K
bret No, I'm just kidding.

28:21.27
Naransi
Woo.

28:21.40
Nandi K
The biggest brains.

28:22.80
Naransi
Thank you.

28:23.64
Nandi K
Brains, y'all. The biggest brands Well, I think we did it. um How are you going to spend the rest of your Juneteenth?

28:36.22
Naransi
um I'm going to try to catch a couple of events, I think. And then I have like one creative session with one of my mentees that's going in my show, like they want some direction on the vision.

28:49.78
Naransi
So I'm actually excited to be talking to them.

28:51.55
Nandi K
Nice.

28:52.95
Naransi
And other than that, real lazy, real breezy. Like this weekend, it needs to be about relaxation and recovery.

29:04.25
Naransi
And yeah like I'm just, I'm looking forward to unwinding for sure. What about you?

29:09.88
Nandi K
Yeah, I think today I'm going to make some white wine spritzers or maybe like an Aperol spritz or something like that. I'm in the mood for a little drinky drink and then I'm going to watch that play later. i don't think I'm going to do too much.

29:26.13
Nandi K
I'm like, I'm just going to chill.

29:27.72
Naransi
I mean, to be free is to not have to perform.

29:31.29
Nandi K
Preach. Preach our ancestors will be proud.

29:34.58
Naransi
They would for us to just go sit our asses down somewhere and do nothing because like that's what this whole celebration is, just the freedom to do whatever the fuck you were going to do without having to be beholden to somebody that's questioning your personhood.

29:37.29
Nandi K
Amen.

29:44.23
Nandi K
Amen.

29:51.99
Nandi K
my god my god yeah well today's episode is sponsored by the black gay agenda it pushes on it pushes on this pride team a big thanks to our audio for our i've been fucking this up lately big thanks to our producer and audio adonis aaron ram freeman oh this is you boo you're you where do you want to be found

30:08.02
Naransi
Mm-hmm.

30:16.41
Naransi
And um o oh I'm Naranci Speaks, and you can find me on Instagram at Naranci, N-A-R-A-N-S-I dot speaks, like talking.

30:32.82
Naransi
And otherwise, you'll just have to figure out where I am in the wild.

30:39.67
Nandi K
And I'm Nandi Kay. You can find me on Instagram, threads, and blue sky at Nandi Kayyy. Stay black, y'all.