00:00.76
Nandi K
All right. All right.

00:02.45
Vance 😈
All right. Are we ready?

00:03.67
Nandi K
Here we go.

00:04.05
Aaron Freeman
Right.

00:04.41
Nandi K
Ready?

00:05.97
Vance 😈
All right. Welcome back to Right Quick.

00:09.34
Nandi K
A bite-sized pop culture conversation with your favorite queer unfriendly black hotties.

00:15.40
Vance 😈
We're unfriendly today because unfortunately the p pride demon has gone back dormant. um

00:21.51
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

00:22.42
Vance 😈
Pride month is over. am Vance Goh.

00:25.94
Nandi K
And I'm Nandi K. It is truly sad all the companies will be stripping their rainbows today. room

00:33.28
Vance 😈
Executing all the gays.

00:34.81
Nandi K
Executing all the gays that they hired to work seasonally.

00:37.50
Vance 😈
Right. For the summer.

00:39.26
Nandi K
yeah for just the month of June.

00:40.76
Vance 😈
Executing that little intern.

00:42.22
Nandi K
Yeah, just the month of June. All those gays have been executed, unfortunately, at 11.59 p.m.

00:47.19
Vance 😈
its It's done. it's Period.

00:49.88
Nandi K
last night. RIP to them Don't trust corporations for pride. This is why you can't be taking those jobs, yo. All money is not good money.

00:58.94
Vance 😈
Right. Right.

01:00.44
Nandi K
a

01:00.76
Vance 😈
It will end poorly.

01:05.24
Vance 😈
So, um, what what are we talking about today?

01:10.01
Nandi K
Today we're talking about biphobia because pride ain't never over on this podcast.

01:14.12
Vance 😈
It's never done. It's never done.

01:15.17
Nandi K
It's always pride. Yeah, we're talking about...

01:16.57
Vance 😈
We don't execute our gays.

01:18.38
Nandi K
biphobia yeah we don't yeah we definitely wouldn't well some i would yeah

01:23.19
Vance 😈
It depends. Like, is it, is it Billy Porter? Like who, who we talk about? I kid, I kid, I kiddie.

01:27.67
Nandi K
i would hear billy porter out ryan murphy guillotine guillotine yeah so some gays we would execute yeah sorry for traumatizing our trigger warning for ryan murphy

01:31.54
Vance 😈
ah right Oh, no Yes, yes, yes. I'm sorry for bringing up... Right, right. Sorry. and And trigger warning because of the topic today.

01:44.41
Nandi K
Yeah, biphobia, yeah. ah Yeah, I mean, it's Pride Month, and so I feel like a lot of Pride Month, especially online. First, the Christians be being and demonic and coming up with bangers like Pride Demon, which is so good.

01:58.07
Vance 😈
Yeah. Yeah, Pride Demon, they... they a

02:01.51
Nandi K
They're always coming up with really good merch. Shout out to them.

02:04.15
Vance 😈
anything

02:05.47
Nandi K
and then we have a lot of Christians... getting wished happy pride donnie mcclerkin they were they wish donnie mcclerkin happy pride they wished uh this pastor yeah wanita bynum happy pride but these are all gay people jackie hill perry happy pride some of them have even responded jackie hill perry responded because she's fighting her end demons so bad that someone wishing her happy pride

02:19.65
Vance 😈
They're trolling. Okay.

02:33.60
Vance 😈
She mad.

02:36.66
Nandi K
online prompt to her making like a 10 minute video in response oh finding those demons amen but like a lot of the discourse is kind of like hate to unfortunately during pride people take pride month as an opportunity to kind of shit on Queer people across the spectrum and bi people are never left out.

03:04.86
Nandi K
um Yeah.

03:08.03
Vance 😈
Bitch, real quick detour. Did you hear about in fre so in Fresno, California, my hometown, um they passed some fucking law where it's like ah June is traditional family month or something crazy.

03:09.82
Nandi K
okay

03:22.81
Nandi K
What?

03:23.74
Vance 😈
Like to come back. Like, so like, it's just like, oh yeah, one man, one woman. Like that's the, the, the official month for that. So you know how they're always like wise in their straight pride. They essentially did that in Fresno.

03:33.66
Nandi K
Wow.

03:35.06
Vance 😈
I was like, what? I know Fresno conservative, but what are y'all smoking over there?

03:38.39
Nandi K
I see it here. The Fresno County Board of Supervisors passed a 3-2 resolution officially declaring June as traditional nuclear family month.

03:50.75
Nandi K
championed by supervisor Gary Breedfield Breed Gay that designation honors traditional heterosexual marriages in the roles of mothers and fathers in child development wow

03:55.00
Vance 😈
It sounds gay, right? Gay.

04:05.94
Vance 😈
Yeah, I could not believe that. that i know we in a dystopian hellscape, but like, not my hometown.

04:11.16
Nandi K
yeah mmm try being from Florida baby welcome to hell

04:12.14
Vance 😈
Come on.

04:18.23
Vance 😈
Yes.

04:20.57
Nandi K
like It's just, it's just like, people think like, people don't understand too how big these states are, right? California, huge state.

04:30.26
Vance 😈
huge super bowl

04:30.58
Nandi K
Florida, another huge fucking state. I live in the biggest city land-wise in the U.S. You can do 200 miles inside this city and never leave.

04:41.75
Nandi K
It takes me an hour to get across to the other side of the city. I was looking up improv classes in person. Said 51 minutes. I said, absolutely not.

04:53.17
Nandi K
Who's driving 51 minutes? Not me. not me

04:55.83
Vance 😈
which

04:57.66
Nandi K
Yeah, but, yeah, people just, I mean, yeah, that man sounds gay. He has breed in his last name, so he's probably fighting that same demon, Jackie Hill Perry.

05:02.97
Vance 😈
Yeah. Reed is his last name. hog. Mm-hmm.

05:07.84
Nandi K
He did a whole lot. His demon's probably big and strong.

05:09.78
Vance 😈
Yeah. Rampant.

05:12.41
Nandi K
Fucking, that got a big, thick, girthy one.

05:12.60
Vance 😈
Vogan.

05:15.55
Nandi K
It's really tearing fucking, it's fucking tearing ass off.

05:16.03
Vance 😈
Gaping. Gaping demon hog.

05:21.46
Vance 😈
Just wearing his ass out.

05:24.82
Nandi K
harry ah that's why he's upset but okay let's talk well neither one of us are bi and in the future we'll have this conversation with a bi person but i have dabbled in both genders i took a significant dip in the man pool in my youth and ignorance um and slept with hundreds of men um and then i was like i

05:28.47
Aaron Freeman
Thank you.

05:53.39
Nandi K
I switched course. I became gay. um But people were like, how are you really gay, though?

06:03.26
Nandi K
I would say that's even biphobia low-key, but...

06:05.98
Vance 😈
Yeah, I mean, it's the, what is it, bi-racial when it's like, is that what it is?

06:10.10
Nandi K
Yeah.

06:11.00
Vance 😈
Yeah, the one where it's like, oh, just because you're doing one group, that means that you're no longer bi. So like, oh, it's bi-racial.

06:16.41
Nandi K
Yeah. Mm-hmm.

06:19.00
Vance 😈
Yeah, I mean, I think identity is a little complicated. And I think like like for someone, like for anybody, like if you, just because you've touched a man before in that way does not make you bi-racial.

06:30.01
Nandi K
Right.

06:30.01
Vance 😈
unless Unless I think you hold that, I think for me, I think just the language. i don't want to get bogged down with semantics, but I think the language of biphobia don't feel genuine to me.

06:43.00
Vance 😈
Because I think as far as who I'm looking at, romantically attracted to maybe, I might be considered bi, but I don't hold that at all because

06:51.86
Nandi K
Sure, yeah.

06:53.21
Vance 😈
yuck um But...

06:54.30
Nandi K
Yeah, I don't identify. Not yet.

06:57.27
Vance 😈
and sorry

06:57.62
Nandi K
I don't identify. I don't identify as bi. don't identify as pansexual. Queer has always felt the best.

07:07.72
Nandi K
And most recently, I'm queer lesbian because I'm taking back my lesbian. You bitches can't stop me from being a lesbian.

07:14.86
Vance 😈
They're gonna they're gonna try

07:16.18
Nandi K
No!

07:17.08
Aaron Freeman
Thank you.

07:18.37
Vance 😈
going to try. ah well But yeah, I mean, we've talked about it a thousand times on this podcast.

07:19.12
Nandi K
Yeah.

07:24.14
Vance 😈
But i yeah, I think queer is just a better word for this. Because like yeah, if if I was like gun to my head, what are you?

07:29.94
Nandi K
yeah

07:34.55
Vance 😈
I think maybe pansexual is probably the most accurate. But even with that being said, I'm like queer. And then like like like a lady might get lucky.

07:41.37
Nandi K
yeah i don't pansexual does not i yeah does not at all feel like something that describes me i do truly feel like a queer lesbian i feel like here's my thing about my attraction to men i experience physical attraction to men and some men I experienced I mean it's been so long but some men I do experience sexual attraction to now it's also been so long since I had sex with a man

08:21.08
Nandi K
i I don't know. Like for me, like when I started trying to think about the actual pieces of it, I don't know if I can. And also because of the way I kind of view men as like solely sexual objects, I don't think it's like good for me to engage with men in that way. It's like, I don't want to be engaged with like that. yeah.

08:46.49
Nandi K
Yeah.

08:47.67
Vance 😈
I think that's healthy and mature because I think a lot of men only see men in the sexual way. And then that's why things, that's why things aren't working out.

08:53.94
Nandi K
Well...

08:57.40
Vance 😈
Uh, that's why, that's what, that's why dating is hell over here because it's like, I think that is how men see each other.

08:57.66
Nandi K
My god. Mm-hmm.

09:03.43
Vance 😈
And yeah, I think until we get to a point where we're like, you know, we, we can see each other as more than just sexual objects. Like it's not going to be better because that's just what it is. Um,

09:13.30
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah. I even think like when I was, because also I think about how even though I don't have never considered myself bisexual,

09:26.36
Nandi K
Like I came out in what I could consider late. I was like 25 when I came out. And i have been messing around with girls since I was 19. But I was messing around with girls because my boyfriend wanted that.

09:42.58
Nandi K
Let's talk about compulsory heterosexuality. Also, i grew up in the South in church. I'm I didn't even like have that much of a frame of reference for being gay it was just like people are straight I knew some gay people kind of I knew people who were rumored to be gay now if you look at my life the evidence was always there my friends were always on the basketball team and like Just so many signs.

10:16.94
Nandi K
And my mama used to accuse me of being gay when I was a kid. So obviously i was probably gay the whole time. But because I didn't have any frame of reference for lesbian relationships with between women

10:25.98
Vance 😈
Right.

10:33.02
Nandi K
I grew up in church. It was super frowned upon. I just was dating men because that's what you were supposed to do. And then he was like, oh, i want to have a threesome. I said, okay, that sounds cool. You can pick the girl. But then got in trouble because we was vibing pretty hard.

10:53.42
Vance 😈
That was...

10:53.98
Nandi K
Yeah. And then he felt threatened.

10:56.38
Vance 😈
Yeah, the color purple where he's like ripping them apart because they're having too much time.

10:58.74
Nandi K
Very much so. Very much that. Yeah.

11:02.86
Vance 😈
They forgot he was there.

11:04.25
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah. We were like talking. We were like Skyping while he wasn't even there.

11:09.23
Aaron Freeman
you

11:09.97
Nandi K
And he came in and got really mad. This is before Wi-Fi. He like ripped the Ethernet cord out of the wall while we were talking. It was so dramatic.

11:16.76
Vance 😈
Now he unplugged the internet. He said enough.

11:19.94
Nandi K
It's crazy. Yeah, it was wild.

11:20.94
Vance 😈
Uh-uh.

11:22.29
Nandi K
It was some wild shit. And then I was like, oh, okay, I won't talk to her anymore, but whole time I'm gay.

11:24.66
Vance 😈
That nigga destroyed the modem.

11:29.78
Vance 😈
Yeah, that tracks. I feel like, um I mean, we talked about a little before the podcast. Like when I first was coming out, I was like, I'm bisexual. I was telling everyone that I was bisexual. It was not true. Um,

11:43.51
Nandi K
How do people, how do you feel like people received that when you were selling people you were bi? Were they like, nigga, you gay?

11:55.62
Vance 😈
I don't remember because I think when I was coming out, I was coming out to the easy people. I was coming out to all the people that I knew would not throw a a stone, right?

12:01.11
Nandi K
I see.

12:04.50
Vance 😈
That would not throw brick at me.

12:04.70
Nandi K
a

12:06.14
Vance 😈
So I was telling people that woman, people that knew me for a long time, like, you know that.

12:10.52
Nandi K
yeah

12:12.06
Vance 😈
So I don't know. ah But I don't. i never I never said I wasn't bi ever. Like, I never reneged on it. I just never...

12:21.72
Nandi K
Sure.

12:22.74
Vance 😈
I just never was... I just never was bi, so...

12:25.75
Nandi K
You just never acted on being bi.

12:27.90
Vance 😈
Yeah, yeah.

12:29.23
Nandi K
We can look out at the evidence, the field research. The researchers have gone out.

12:33.14
Vance 😈
Yeah.

12:34.19
Nandi K
They said, it's looking pretty gay out here.

12:37.05
Vance 😈
i like I think it's just gay. It's just... Yeah. So, yeah, all of that.

12:42.30
Nandi K
Yeah, so let's talk about what biphobia is.

12:50.94
Nandi K
okay so i think there's there are issues with biphobia and also i've been seeing some wild stuff around like it's it's a it's conservative era so the stuff that has been out in the discourse has been wild like there's no such thing as lesbians This has been, a this has been, yeah.

13:15.15
Vance 😈
Wait, who? Where? Yeah,

13:18.97
Nandi K
No such thing as lesbians. It's just women who are bi who, you know, this is some red pill bullshit.

13:26.90
Vance 😈
yeah that sounds like...

13:27.06
Nandi K
But women are starting to repeat it.

13:28.12
Vance 😈
Uh-uh.

13:30.46
Nandi K
Bi women.

13:30.58
Vance 😈
Yeah. It's not like Gilead. It's not like some blessed beetle fruit.

13:34.20
Nandi K
Yeah.

13:34.71
Vance 😈
Like you're just you're yeah. Like you're not actually a lesbian.

13:37.11
Nandi K
Yeah.

13:39.61
Vance 😈
You just have it.

13:39.80
Nandi K
Yes. Yeah. Which is so problematic in so many ways. Now let's talk about how... People being bi really is a thing.

13:51.86
Nandi K
People who are bi or pan, most people kind of, now those kind of, they're kind of like the same thing, but I guess it just depends on what era time maybe you started identifying because there was not pan when I started identifying as queer.

14:07.64
Vance 😈
Right, back.

14:10.23
Nandi K
That was like, but it was close to time, close to the same time.

14:15.96
Vance 😈
So, is this why... i so I think this is why a bi person needs to be here because when i when I think that in my head, I feel like bi people are like with the binary and I think that's why I don't really fuck with it.

14:28.60
Nandi K
No, i don't think that's true.

14:28.85
Vance 😈
Because... See? Okay, yeah, because...

14:30.76
Nandi K
i think bi means your gender and other genders.

14:35.32
Vance 😈
The other one.

14:35.96
Nandi K
Yeah, it's not a binary.

14:36.74
Vance 😈
I'm with... I'm with that, right? I think it's the, like, the the two genders just don't feel, well, not feel.

14:39.70
Nandi K
Yeah.

14:43.66
Vance 😈
I know it's not true. Anyway, um, but,

14:45.30
Nandi K
Yeah, yeah i can I see that, and that is another thing that's been coming up, which comes up when people talk about biphobia or being bisexual versus being pansexual. But I think a lot of people I've seen are like, no, bi doesn't mean two.

15:02.32
Nandi K
Bi means my gender and others.

15:06.36
Vance 😈
I'm with that. Yeah.

15:07.26
Nandi K
Yeah.

15:07.46
Vance 😈
So, I mean, i think sometimes, you know, our brains can be a little literal sometimes.

15:07.84
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

15:11.66
Vance 😈
So, like, I think that is what grates against my sensibilities. But, like, if I meet someone and they're like, they're bi, bitch, I don't know or care enough to be like, no, you're not. Like, so...

15:22.78
Nandi K
This is what I be saying. This is what I be saying. i and And we have to be... a None of this stuff takes place in a vacuum, right? So society still rewards heterosexual relationships regardless if you're bi or not, which is why you hear people say stuff like, oh, dating men is easier.

15:46.42
Nandi K
it is easier in society.

15:47.91
Vance 😈
Yeah. There's no stigma. Yeah. Well, there should be a stigma, but there's not...

15:50.30
Nandi K
yeah there's no... Yeah, you're right. Well, there definitely should be. When I find out a woman has a male partner, i do start thinking about her differently.

16:03.35
Nandi K
i do. Now, once I see how the man is, hopefully you can get back into my a safe zone. But men are dangerous. Right.

16:14.93
Vance 😈
I feel the same way about white folk, white folk, well people dating white people.

16:16.63
Nandi K
Yeah, it same thing. And God forbid there's an overlap there.

16:18.63
Vance 😈
I'll be right.

16:20.62
Nandi K
God forbid you show me your white man partner. I'm like, are you okay?

16:23.82
Vance 😈
Right.

16:25.27
Nandi K
I like well when women hide their partners in the shed, in the basement.

16:25.88
Vance 😈
Right.

16:30.84
Vance 😈
Under the house.

16:31.01
Nandi K
Shout out to my friend who keeps her husband in the shed.

16:31.44
Vance 😈
Yeah.

16:34.94
Vance 😈
that's the only way to do it.

16:35.03
Nandi K
um

16:36.14
Vance 😈
Cause I think once you reveal them, they know they're going to be embarrassed. Like they know there's going to be another family or something. So I think that's really what it is. Like just, it's a preemptive, like you save yourself embarrassment.

16:44.60
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

16:49.02
Vance 😈
And then if,

16:50.01
Nandi K
And we shouldn't judge people for how they move in those decisions to, I mean, well, I mean, i there's some judgment for me because I decided to live my truth, but a little, just a smidge, but I also understand the conditions under which you might choose to mostly date men or maybe you did date people equally in quotes and you happen to meet the love of your life and it's a man that's wild seems unsafe but

17:21.51
Vance 😈
Yeah.

17:24.41
Nandi K
I also say that's great and it doesn't mean you're not bi anymore. like And also, same thing, if you marry a woman, i have a very good friend who's pansexual, is married to a woman, mostly dated men before that.

17:41.37
Vance 😈
yeah

17:43.04
Nandi K
doesn't make her any less bi or pan because she married a woman. and She's not a lesbian because she's married to a woman. Like she's married to a lesbian though.

17:54.81
Nandi K
And see,

17:58.14
Nandi K
see, nobody, no, her, her wife didn't say, how do I know if you're really gay? Her wife was like, you like me?

18:06.27
Vance 😈
Right.

18:07.62
Nandi K
I like you.

18:10.08
Vance 😈
Right. Well, yeah, so I do want to talk about that argument specifically, right?

18:13.98
Nandi K
Yes.

18:14.15
Vance 😈
Because I feel like every, what, four months? I feel like I see it less frequently, but that's probably my algo.

18:21.00
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

18:21.39
Vance 😈
That being said, the the biphobic conversation online, which I think is funny.

18:25.21
Nandi K
Yeah.

18:27.67
Vance 😈
I feel like I didn't start seeing it until fucking insecure. But um Langston Cairn, Right?

18:31.83
Nandi K
Damn. Shout out Langston Kerman.

18:36.93
Vance 😈
So that damn Langston, that light-skinned devil. No, but anyway, I kid.

18:40.76
Nandi K
Love him. He's not light-skinned.

18:42.81
Vance 😈
But he's by Rachel.

18:43.46
Nandi K
He's biracial.

18:44.82
Vance 😈
he is by Rachel.

18:45.73
Nandi K
Don't get into it. Hey, Langston, we love you, but we're not going to forget.

18:49.33
Vance 😈
i like...

18:50.42
Nandi K
You're not just light-skinned. You have a white father.

18:53.86
Vance 😈
It's a white... Oh, that's... Yeah, he's he...

18:55.90
Nandi K
Yeah, but his mom a black, so it's good.

18:57.53
Vance 😈
Yeah, and he he talks about that too, which I think, anyway, um the conversation, which is like the biphobic conversation every three, four, five, six months, we're like, black women, I see black women saying it They'll be like, you know, I'm not biphobic, but, and then they'll say the most biphobic thing that you've ever heard of.

18:59.48
Nandi K
Yeah, yes. Yeah.

19:04.21
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

19:16.38
Nandi K
Yeah.

19:16.84
Vance 😈
them dirty, filthy, stinking bodies need to stay away from me. And then I'm just like, well, like, that's literally what my phobia is.

19:21.26
Nandi K
Disgusting.

19:25.12
Vance 😈
And I think people don't like to be labeled negative things, even if they're being that thing.

19:25.38
Nandi K
Yep.

19:30.68
Vance 😈
And...

19:30.97
Nandi K
Yeah, that's a particularly nasty... I think the biphobia from women towards men... God forbid I empathize with a man on this podcast. But I do feel like it's a nat because of patriarchy.

19:49.11
Vance 😈
Yeah.

19:49.24
Nandi K
It seems laden with so much more vitriol.

19:49.41
Vance 😈
Yes.

19:54.07
Nandi K
And ah yeah, it's nasty.

19:54.14
Vance 😈
um

19:57.90
Nandi K
I don't even know how to describe how. It seems like women and non-men are a lot more free to be bi than men are.

20:05.91
Vance 😈
yes

20:07.26
Nandi K
And I don't like the stuff I see around that.

20:11.22
Vance 😈
um I will say back to like the whole Pam by that, you know, I was talking about, I think since had woman's attitudes around bisexual men or men that do other than just, you know, since that turns me off.

20:25.89
Nandi K
Yep.

20:26.02
Vance 😈
ah it puts me off in a way where like, hey, I'm not even interested in going over there for nothing because like, i already know what y'all think because you say it, you won't stop talking about it, right?

20:34.48
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

20:36.38
Vance 😈
So like for me, it's just like, well, ah they don't feel like there's any space to explore because like, that's what's waiting for me.

20:36.72
Nandi K
Yep.

20:43.33
Vance 😈
Now, mind you, queer women exist. You know, I got it.

20:46.41
Nandi K
Yes.

20:47.08
Vance 😈
Like there's there's other places to go, but I think the prevailing attitudes that I hear makes me so anxious to even

20:53.37
Nandi K
Yep.

20:56.09
Vance 😈
fine You know what I'm saying? Like, I would have to go somewhere like filled or something where like the couples are like, come on over here, come hither.

20:57.02
Nandi K
I agree.

21:02.42
Nandi K
Yeah, I feel that.

21:03.13
Vance 😈
who

21:03.62
Nandi K
Yeah, mind you, i wouldn't even, none of the men I would even look at these days, none of the men I look at are not queer, except for Sterling K. Brown, and I don't know him.

21:15.90
Nandi K
So obviously, that's just a fantasy And plus, I don't think that I would be even interested in a man that wasn't queer because I'm trying to top a man. And so like, if a man's not going to let me top, like, if you gonna fuck me, you got to let me fuck you.

21:37.82
Vance 😈
i I feel like bisexual... feel like bisexual men... Not to say they're not queer. Obviously, they're under the umbrella. But I feel like that's where that's gonna happen.

21:48.44
Nandi K
Yeah.

21:48.50
Vance 😈
I feel like, you know, where straight...

21:50.26
Nandi K
Yeah.

21:50.84
Vance 😈
So, like, cishet women that are, like, anti-bi men. I'm like, y'all missing out on So Much Fun.

21:56.66
Nandi K
Missing out.

21:58.10
Vance 😈
Like...

21:58.26
Nandi K
Because I'm trying to hit that prostate, baby. I'm trying to, baby. I'm trying to do some things. i Yeah, I want to really be a true active participant in a way that I didn't know about before i got deep into my queerness, you know, before I was gay and stuff.

22:17.78
Vance 😈
Listen, they missing out on a whole lot because straight men don't even they don't even clean their booties, let alone let nobody move maneuver around it. Right. So like, right.

22:25.90
Nandi K
Scary stuff!

22:27.97
Vance 😈
Well, I'm like a bisexual nigga. Like, he gonna let you swing him around by a septum piercing or whatever. You know, his.

22:37.34
Nandi K
Oh my god.

22:38.32
Vance 😈
He's gonna do some things with them fingers, with them, ah with them, ah them black, black female polishes.

22:41.62
Nandi K
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Them black fingernail polish and all them rings. Yeah.

22:48.47
Vance 😈
All them rings and them tattoos and them locks.

22:49.53
Nandi K
Yeah. No, but sometimes you got to be careful because I've been tricked by like a fake bi nigga before. that Actually, my last dealing with a man was like a bi, like queer man who used they, them pronouns, but they ended up just being a Jamaican man.

22:56.79
Vance 😈
What them spiritual?

23:04.47
Vance 😈
Yeah. Uh-huh.

23:09.14
Nandi K
They were just a Jamaican man who wore women's clothing sometimes, right?

23:09.60
Vance 😈
I know them niggas.

23:12.74
Vance 😈
Yup, he got on a kilt talking about I'm gender non-conforming.

23:13.58
Nandi K
Like We would share clothes, which was low-key, like, kind of lit. I used to like that. But, like, he wouldn't let me put it in his butt for real. And I was trying to, and he really wouldn't really, like,

23:28.38
Nandi K
let me and I was like well I'm not and then he was low-key mean to me so I was like oh I'm not doing this we're done you're not gonna let me put it in your butt this is the only reason I'm here the only reason I even let you get close to me is because I thought I was gonna be able to put it in your butt and now you're not really letting me and you're mean

23:50.29
Vance 😈
He's like, no, me not like that.

23:56.06
Nandi K
so no

23:56.50
Vance 😈
ah know I know the type out here where like they they're they're queer. Like they they they identify as queer, but then like don't nothing be queer.

24:05.69
Nandi K
nothing queer about them they just be wearing ladies clothes i'm telling you they just wear ladies clothes flower crowns nail polish i can think of somebody from the internet right now who i have blocked who used to be queer fishing and i know you know who i'm talking about they name start with an m i know they don't listen to this podcast

24:06.01
Vance 😈
It's like. You

24:14.04
Vance 😈
just.

24:25.68
Vance 😈
Uh-uh. No, they don't. They don't. Do you think they listen to podcasts?

24:29.11
Nandi K
They don't. I said I know they don't listen.

24:30.66
Vance 😈
Uh-uh-uh. I thought you said they do.

24:31.39
Nandi K
So anyway, Moses, do you remember?

24:33.05
Vance 😈
Yeah.

24:33.63
Nandi K
remember Yeah.

24:34.13
Vance 😈
Yes.

24:34.71
Nandi K
Who all popped up in makeup and nail polish just one day.

24:39.50
Vance 😈
Uh-uh. Yup. Awaken.

24:43.10
Nandi K
Anyways, I can't.

24:43.92
Vance 😈
Yup. Only mess with ladies. Only mess with coochies. I said, this is not queer.

24:48.41
Nandi K
Only mess with ladies. Only mess with ladies.

24:51.05
Vance 😈
is not queer.

24:54.04
Vance 😈
Anyway.

24:54.46
Nandi K
Yeah, that was crazy.

24:54.76
Vance 😈
ah

24:57.62
Nandi K
That was crazy. Anyway, I don't like those types. um They're awful. And I have been tricked by them before. um Never again. and this is why I had to stop letting these sexual objects get to me.

25:13.89
Nandi K
See, I like sexual objects.

25:15.16
Vance 😈
Not these. Hmm.

25:17.02
Nandi K
They're fun. But they should be like toys, not humans. Anyways, I also wanted to address some of the like online conversations that I've been seeing this month. I've been seeing a conversation that's been happening for most of the month is about is by women basically saying that lesbians treat them with distrust dis-ease.

25:44.15
Nandi K
And it's been kind of tough because what I've been feeling is that by women are kind of bullying lesbians for not being maybe not dating them or maybe being wary of dating them.

25:58.90
Vance 😈
Yeah.

25:59.93
Nandi K
Excuse me.

26:00.44
Vance 😈
Say more. Say more.

26:01.01
Nandi K
and Yeah, it's been, I've seen a lot of good conversation about it on both sides. One on the real biphobia that actually does happen where there are, there's the culture of gold star lesbians.

26:14.42
Vance 😈
right

26:17.56
Nandi K
And I've been definitely a fucking victim of what those type of bitches bring. We don't all have the same story. All of us couldn't be gay from the jump.

26:28.82
Nandi K
Like all of us weren't like all of us couldn't do that in our lives. Some of us didn't even know that was possible. Good for you that you never fucked a nigga. I fucked a lot of them.

26:39.96
Nandi K
And sometimes I even have fun.

26:42.84
Vance 😈
Yeah.

26:43.03
Nandi K
I can think of at least one time that I had a fantastic time that I'll never forget. But also I'm very gay and it's very clear. Even when I look across my life, it's clear that I'm very gay. So there is a lot of like that, that happens with certain types of lesbians who think they're better than you because they never fucked a nigga or whatever.

27:05.21
Nandi K
and also because men are dangerous I think it's kind of safe to say if you're a bi person who is currently dating men, because there's also bisaphic people who have a preference for dating women. There's bi people who prefer to date women.

27:25.40
Nandi K
So it's not just about, there's plenty of bi people who date lesbians, but if you date men, i what's the difference? What is biphobia and what is just discernment under the patriarchy that we all live in?

27:46.64
Nandi K
It's okay if people see you with your male partner at Pride and are like, hmm, maybe there's some allies Cause how will we know?

27:58.36
Vance 😈
Right. Right. And we won't unless you tell us, which, which I mean, but like, that's how I'd see all sexuality.

28:02.01
Nandi K
Right.

28:05.55
Vance 😈
Right. Like, unless, unless like, like some people, you just know, like we joke about that all the time.

28:06.70
Nandi K
Yep.

28:10.90
Vance 😈
Some people you can look at and like, i got but for the most part,

28:11.00
Nandi K
Sure. yeah

28:15.03
Vance 😈
For the most part, like most people, you do got to have an actual conversation with them to figure out what they actually like, right?

28:19.61
Nandi K
Yes.

28:21.11
Vance 😈
Which is why I am good with the queer thing because I'm like, yeah, like I'm not straight.

28:21.24
Nandi K
Yeah.

28:25.98
Vance 😈
Fuck that. But you don't know exactly what that means. um

28:29.09
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

28:29.75
Vance 😈
and No, I think it's interesting what you're saying though because I think like... on the, on that side, I feel like that discernment is like, yeah, I think that's super valid.

28:40.88
Vance 😈
I feel like when it's on the other side with the men, right? I just hear, I don't, when I hear gay ah a gay man will be like, oh, like, I don't date bi men.

28:50.81
Vance 😈
And then like, anytime you ask why, it's never, ah not to say there needs to be a good reason.

28:51.64
Nandi K
Mm.

28:57.10
Vance 😈
Like, if you don't date them people, sure, whatever. That's biphobic for sure. But like,

29:00.86
Nandi K
Sure, yes, exactly.

29:02.93
Vance 😈
I'm not saying it's okay, but I'm like, i'm I'm not asking you to go date my people. Like, whatever. Don't date them. Leave them alone. But I don't know. Cause like, yeah, I've never heard a gay man. I've never heard a gay man ever say anything that made sense after they said they don't date by people.

29:15.95
Vance 😈
Cause it's always rooted in some fuck shit or like, Oh, they they'll use language like confused.

29:16.41
Nandi K
mm-hmm, yep. misogyny. They low-key like, hate they low-key hate, a lot of gay men hate women too.

29:22.04
Vance 😈
Yup.

29:25.53
Nandi K
I mean, they're no, they're not, they're not immune to the kind of nasty, nasty messaging that happens through the patriarchy.

29:26.00
Vance 😈
That's very true.

29:34.35
Vance 😈
I mean, you're still men.

29:34.46
Nandi K
They hate women too.

29:35.83
Vance 😈
Yeah.

29:35.99
Nandi K
Yeah, they're still men, but

29:36.76
Vance 😈
Still. I mean, just think about white people, like white gays. Like that's it. Like it's still a white man.

29:42.15
Nandi K
yuck.

29:43.92
Vance 😈
like That's that.

29:44.51
Nandi K
Yuck.

29:45.64
Vance 😈
and And I think they align with that more than anything at the end of the day.

29:48.93
Nandi K
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

29:50.46
Vance 😈
And, you know, like, there's no... Anyway, but the same thing goes for, like like, queer men across the spectrum, where it's just like they are...

29:55.32
Nandi K
yeah

29:57.27
Vance 😈
Yeah, they hold on to that patriarchy misogyny, and they're just like, uh... Or, like, they think they're gonna get left for a woman. I'm just like, if someone's gonna leave you, they're gonna leave you.

30:05.91
Nandi K
Ugh, I hate that.

30:07.06
Vance 😈
Like...

30:09.64
Nandi K
The whole bi people are greedy or bi people are confused or bi people might leave you for the opposite sex.

30:13.40
Vance 😈
okay That's...

30:17.72
Nandi K
Guess what, guys? They might just leave you. They might just leave you because you fucking suck.

30:20.50
Vance 😈
Yeah. You suck.

30:23.04
Nandi K
Have you thought about that?

30:23.72
Vance 😈
Insufferable.

30:24.52
Nandi K
You're an awful person. That's why they love you. You're biphobic.

30:27.99
Vance 😈
and insufferable Yes.

30:29.97
Nandi K
That's why they left you, because you're biphobic and you actually don't respect them as a human being.

30:37.75
Vance 😈
and And the same thing with cheating. Like someone's going to cheat on you, they're going cheat on you, boo.

30:41.80
Nandi K
Yep.

30:41.83
Vance 😈
Like, like cheaters cheat. That's who cheats. Not bi people.

30:45.06
Nandi K
Pax.

30:46.11
Vance 😈
Well, bi people be cheating. But you know what I'm saying? Cheaters cheat. Like you got, you got cheated on because you dated and cheated.

30:48.82
Nandi K
Cheaters cheat. Bi cheaters, they cheat.

30:52.18
Vance 😈
Right. A bi cheater, a straight cheater, a gay, anyway.

30:55.74
Nandi K
Yeah, lesbian cheater. I've been cheated on by lesbians plenty of times.

30:59.79
Vance 😈
Listen, listen, cheaters be cheating.

31:02.82
Nandi K
Cheaters be cheating. Well... I mean, I guess we kind of did it. Next time, we definitely need a bi person.

31:10.49
Vance 😈
We did.

31:11.98
Nandi K
But all in all, like, don't be biphobic, guys.

31:12.18
Vance 😈
We do. We do. I think.

31:16.13
Nandi K
Don't... Just let people live their lives. Just let people...

31:19.96
Vance 😈
Mind your.

31:20.78
Nandi K
like And don't... And mostly you gays on both sides. Stop being biphobic. You're not better than ah people who have...

31:28.70
Vance 😈
Right.

31:29.91
Nandi K
have had experiences with the opposite sex and that's what's crazy i actually prefer people who have had at least some experiences with the opposite sex because of how much vitriol i've experienced from like gold star lesbians yeah because they're like do you know how are you really gay uh was i not gay when i was eating your pussy last night bitch

31:58.94
Vance 😈
But yeah.

32:00.25
Nandi K
How much more gay do I need to be?

32:00.57
Vance 😈
and

32:03.51
Vance 😈
And like, at the end of the day, we all in the same mafia, like, you know, whatever, whatever stupid slur Dave Chappelle came up for us, uh, alphabet gangs, alpha alphabet boys, alphabet mafia, we all in the same mafia.

32:16.50
Vance 😈
And like, I know like we, we people, it's comprised of people.

32:19.96
Nandi K
okay

32:20.06
Vance 😈
There's going to be conflict, but like the conflict don't need to be that.

32:23.61
Nandi K
No, and the BIs are our biggest demographic.

32:23.80
Vance 😈
Like,

32:27.51
Nandi K
We need to practice diplomacy, everybody. These are our family members.

32:33.02
Vance 😈
Not diplomacy. You got to be friendly with the bias.

32:34.11
Nandi K
we are We might be different factions, but we are all part of the same community and we have to work together.

32:35.66
Vance 😈
They outnumber us.

32:41.96
Nandi K
We have to be diplomatic about this. We cannot look down on folks because they live a different life than we do. We accept them because sometimes they do live the same life as us.

32:54.29
Nandi K
And that, and it shouldn't have to be all that.

32:54.71
Vance 😈
right

32:57.82
Nandi K
Like men, gay men be fucking men. And I don't think I'll ever really engage in that ever again, but they are free to, even though it's not my cup of tea, you know, cause men are illiterate.

33:14.36
Nandi K
But some women are illiterate.

33:16.47
Vance 😈
That's true. a lot of people are illiterate.

33:17.24
Nandi K
This is also a sad thing.

33:18.03
Vance 😈
We know. The numbers reflect that.

33:23.37
Nandi K
Well, who's today's episode sponsored by?

33:26.31
Vance 😈
Today's episode. ah The Pride Demon. um

33:30.84
Nandi K
Oh, yeah, of course.

33:31.96
Vance 😈
His last hoorah. I'm sorry. Their last hoorah.

33:36.54
Nandi K
Wow, not misgendering the pride demon. Well, if it had a as a binary pronoun, it would definitely be he if it was really terrorizing, but it's definitely more of a they for sure.

33:44.25
Vance 😈
ah He, yeah. I see that. It's the Babadook.

33:50.00
Vance 😈
It's the thing. of Big thanks to our producer and audio adonis, Aaron Rand Freeman. I have been Vance Goh, and you can find me on IG and threads at SirLancify, and who are you?

34:02.34
Nandi K
I'm Nandi You can find me on Instagram, threads and blue sky at Nandi K-A-Y-Y-Y. And follow us on Instagram at rightquickpodcast.

34:15.77
Nandi K
See y'all.

34:17.50
Vance 😈
Peace.