[UNKNOWN]: Hello everyone and welcome to the best episode of the year on the future projection and baseball America podcast feeds.

[UNKNOWN]: I am Ben Badler and it is the best episode of the year because I get to sit here and pepper my friends Carlos Colazzo and JJ Cooper with questions about what's coming up on the draft what exactly is going to happen going

[UNKNOWN]: There may be not 30 for 30 on the mock draft this year, but we're expecting at least high bar high bar.

[UNKNOWN]: Or any correct from Carlos you have your you have your soup picked out for the draft show you got your wardrobe good Carlos

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I do have my soup picked out, um, I need to actually get get some, uh, be a trimming taken care of and hopefully not look like I'm exhausted with zero sleep on draft day.

[UNKNOWN]: Um, but yeah, all that is, uh, kind of taking care of and now we just need to figure out who's going to wear and hopefully on this podcast.

[UNKNOWN]: We'll do that.

[UNKNOWN]: We got friend of the program.

[UNKNOWN]: in our boss, JJ Cooper on it's it's kind of a weird mix of hosts and podcasts, but it's going to be fun to break down to you guys for top JJ.

[UNKNOWN]: It's it's good to be with you guys.

[UNKNOWN]: Thank you guys for inviting me on although you know so we're going to do the joint pod here.

[UNKNOWN]: We're also going to go out on the draft pod feed as well because I mean help we're going to be talking about every team and what they're what we think they're going to do.

[UNKNOWN]: I can't imagine a better

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think more of the latter is probably correct.

[UNKNOWN]: So I think we should get started.

[UNKNOWN]: We're going to run through every team's pick every team's top picks today.

[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to do all top 10 rounds.

[UNKNOWN]: I'll save that for the next episode with me and Carlos.

[UNKNOWN]: But we're going to start with the Chicago White Sucks.

[UNKNOWN]: at number one.

[UNKNOWN]: So pretty much every mock draft since we knew the Chicago White Sox, we're going to be picking first over all since they won the draft lottery.

[UNKNOWN]: Carlos, we've had them take in Rob Chalowski.

[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't, I mean, it was a strong season for Rob Chalowski.

[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't the greatest finish for his season and certainly for his team with UCLA.

[UNKNOWN]: But it now seems like.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, is it a little bit more?

[UNKNOWN]: Criteres are a real decision that the white socks have on their hands between Rock Chalowski, Grey Emerson, the short-stop high school short-stop from Texas, Von Lackey, who had a spectacular year, catcher for Georgia Tech.

[UNKNOWN]: Do you think the white socks are really debating between these three players still?

[UNKNOWN]: Do you think they have their guy picked out?

[UNKNOWN]: What do you think is going to happen here?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I looked back at our way to early mock that we do right after last year's draft.

[UNKNOWN]: And I was pretty sure we had Rochilowski, we had him one.

[UNKNOWN]: And we actually had the white socks listed as the team there as everyone knows that we have draft lottery now.

[UNKNOWN]: And so the fact that they were listed as the team is also a bit unusual.

[UNKNOWN]: But I think every single actual iteration of our mock draft,

[UNKNOWN]: Preseason Mox in season mox, every single one this year, we've had Rock Chilowski in the number one spot.

[UNKNOWN]: I still feel like he's the favorite, although it really does seem like great Emerson in particular, is a real candidate.

[UNKNOWN]: To be an option, I've heard whispers dating back for weeks and months now that he was seriously in play.

[UNKNOWN]: I've talked with teams who do think the gap between Rock Chilowski and great Emerson is narrower than it was expected to be entering the year.

[UNKNOWN]: I ultimately, I don't know, I would feel like I need a lot of information to come out to make me feel confident and putting gritty there, the way I would best describe it now as we sit here six days or so before the draft happens is

[UNKNOWN]: Rocholowski, being the pick, seems like it would make its own a sense.

[UNKNOWN]: If Grady Emerson is the pick, I wouldn't be too surprised.

[UNKNOWN]: If Von Lacky is the pick, I would be mildly surprised.

[UNKNOWN]: And if anyone other than those three are the pick, I would be shocked if that makes sense.

[UNKNOWN]: JJ, if you were the white socks, and you had the first overall pick, who would you take?

[UNKNOWN]: I think this is where like what Carlos is saying makes a lot of sense from the standpoint of like the reason that you would be maybe slightly surprised, but not shocked if great Emerson goes one one is you don't have to, if you're the white sucks, you don't have to think that great Emerson is clearly a level above Rochalowski to consider taking him one one.

[UNKNOWN]: If you think that rock-to-lasky and greedy Emerson are one in one A, and you struggle to go back and forth of which one you think is better, and then you say, okay, what are the, what are these two guys looking for, and you say, well, one of them is going to ask for it again, I don't, I'm not in previous negotiations, but let's say that Emerson's asking for significantly less money, well, then you really do consider it, I think, because it does give you more flexibility later on.

[UNKNOWN]: I would say that where this falls apart is if you think that Rochilowski is better than Brady Emerson, I think it becomes simple then, right?

[UNKNOWN]: Like, yes, if it's something where you're going to get your 1A for half the price, but you're not going to get that, it's not going to be something like that.

[UNKNOWN]: So don't try to save a million dollars here.

[UNKNOWN]: get a Henry Davis type at the top of the draft if you can you're never going to go wrong picking the guy who ends up being the you know the better of the two or you think is going to be better of the two but I do think you know it feels like we've talked about this so many times it's true but

[UNKNOWN]: This is not a situation where you have this one guy who's really, really good, and everyone else is kind of like, well, who knows what you're going to get.

[UNKNOWN]: This is, I feel like that there are a lot of drafts that we've covered over the years where if Grady Emerson was the only guy in that tier, you wouldn't be saying, oh, this is a terrible draft.

[UNKNOWN]: You'd be saying, this is exactly, yeah, this is what a one one pick looks like.

[UNKNOWN]: And so, and Ben, I've talked about this throughout the spring.

[UNKNOWN]: I do feel like if Grady Emerson was eligible a year ago, he would be the one one favorite in that 2025 class.

[UNKNOWN]: I think he would have been the best high school player in that class.

[UNKNOWN]: He would have represented a confidence in an offensive profile that a lot of the teams at the top last year didn't feel like they had.

[UNKNOWN]: Um, and I think that Von Lackey would also be in that conversation.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if he would definitely be like the one-one favorite if you could just pluck his profile now and throw it into that class a year ago.

[UNKNOWN]: But I think it certainly be in the conversation.

[UNKNOWN]: I do think this top three group of players is really strong.

[UNKNOWN]: The other element here to the Rochelowski-Gradie Emerson and like bonus leverage, signing bonus negotiations.

[UNKNOWN]: I mentioned this in a mock draft previously, but they're wrapped by the same agency.

[UNKNOWN]: So I do think there is a limit to

[UNKNOWN]: playing these players against each other.

[UNKNOWN]: Certainly, if one of those two players is more inclined to just get the biggest bonus possible and one is like really excited about the possibility of being one one.

[UNKNOWN]: You can satisfy both the players by maybe playing some of those games.

[UNKNOWN]: Ultimately, the White Sox should take whoever they think is the best player.

[UNKNOWN]: For me, I think that's rock chelosky, Ben.

[UNKNOWN]: How about you?

[UNKNOWN]: As I say, so you can't just lie to rock chelosky's agent to say, oh, we got this for a greatie, Emerson.

[UNKNOWN]: Right.

[UNKNOWN]: It's not going to happen to you.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm for you.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I agree.

[UNKNOWN]: I've think I said when greatie Emerson was our number one high school plan in the country, when he was a sophomore that I thought he'd be.

[UNKNOWN]: the bet that he was just the best player in high school baseball period when he was at age and he has only gotten better and better and better last year.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I would have taken him one one if he was in that same draft with Eli Willitz and Ethan Holiday and and your boy Seth Hernandez Carlos, but he's he's that talented at the same time.

[UNKNOWN]: Rochilowski is too, and I wonder if there's a little bit of just like prospect fatigue with Rochilowski.

[UNKNOWN]: Also, the idea, I don't buy the idea that, well, maybe Grady Emerson has a higher ceiling than Rochilowski, because you know, well, Grady Emerson is ahead of where Rochilowski was in high school.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and now Rochilowski is where he is now, which is a superstar college baseball player, who's a shortstop, who's going to be in the big leagues probably next year.

[UNKNOWN]: If you wanted to push him that quickly, there's still some risk, obviously, with all of these players.

[UNKNOWN]: But, and I love Grady Emerson.

[UNKNOWN]: He'd be a great one-one pick in any other year.

[UNKNOWN]: And if I'm picking second, I'd be thrilled to have him.

[UNKNOWN]: He'd be my second overall pick.

[UNKNOWN]: But I would still take Rochilowski.

[UNKNOWN]: I think he's super talented and he's going to get there.

[UNKNOWN]: even faster than Grady Emerson.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

[UNKNOWN]: But the thing I love that you've used in other discussions we've had where you said Carlos, there's not this level of precision to this.

[UNKNOWN]: This is something where all of this, there's ambiguity, there's error bars.

[UNKNOWN]: I'll give you an example.

[UNKNOWN]: That 2024 draft is a great draft now.

[UNKNOWN]: We can already say the top of the 2024 draft is a great draft.

[UNKNOWN]: If you're saying right now, okay, redraft it, line it up.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that this obvious even now, sitting here a couple years later, where you're like, Bizanas in the all-star game, Chase Burns is a stud.

[UNKNOWN]: Nick Kurtz has been a star, and you can throw JJ weatherhold in there.

[UNKNOWN]: You've got Connor Griffin going nine.

[UNKNOWN]: I think you probably take Connor Griffin one one in that, but I could make cases for multiple players, even knowing what we know now about adding two years of pro track record,

[UNKNOWN]: There's an ambiguity that is necessary in this, which is, there's just no way to feel like anyone who tells you that if they take Rochalowski, that they were idiots, or if they took Grady Emerson, their idiots or whatever right now, is describing a level of certainty to something that is so uncertain and does require a little bit of kind of almost like,

[UNKNOWN]: humbleness, humility to understand.

[UNKNOWN]: We won't know the answer to these questions for a decade.

[UNKNOWN]: We're more.

[UNKNOWN]: That's why we're going to wait a decade and then call everybody.

[UNKNOWN]: Yes, we're going to say your name once we know the outcome.

[UNKNOWN]: It's a lot easier that way.

[UNKNOWN]: Right.

[UNKNOWN]: But what about all right, so the raise, pick second overall.

[UNKNOWN]: We're not accustomed to seeing the raise, pick this high in the draft.

[UNKNOWN]: Carlos are the raise.

[UNKNOWN]: hoping for Rock Chilowski to slide to them at number two and if Rock goes number one are is there does it seem like they're leaning more toward

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I really am torn on whether or not let's say Von Lackey does go one, the surprise pick of that trio for from our perspective here.

[UNKNOWN]: I would be very torn on who the race preference would be between rock-to-lasky and greedy Emerson.

[UNKNOWN]: If it's greedy Emerson and Von Lackey, I'm leaning towards greedy Emerson.

[UNKNOWN]: for the race.

[UNKNOWN]: I just feel like I have heard them connected to Grady Emerson so consistently throughout the entirety of the spring.

[UNKNOWN]: I have heard that they are extremely high on just the left-handed hitting high school shortstop demographic in general.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's relevant kind of what is going on in the organization right now as to to what the race would prioritize from a position plate like a position standpoint like what you either have the shorts up at the catcher.

[UNKNOWN]: People will point to oh there's good catchers in their system right now.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that is really relevant I would lean towards great Emerson If on Lacky's the other option right now, but I again I think it's a similar conversation as to what we just had with the white socks and and it might be a bit redundant for fans of teams of the first three, but I generally do think that is a conversation we'll have of the top three I'm leaning Greatie for them now

[UNKNOWN]: It just sounds like they really, really value his head tool.

[UNKNOWN]: And I just get the sense that the rays like this demographic more than the font-lucky profile, but I could be wrong.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Reggie, you cover the rays for us for a lot of years, doing their top 30.

[UNKNOWN]: It does seem like they have not been an organization that has gone much into catching at the amateur level.

[UNKNOWN]: I mean, maybe for Venezuela and catchers, but otherwise not so much in... Or the draft.

[UNKNOWN]: It's a draft in particular.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

[UNKNOWN]: But also, we don't see them picking second overall and typically having access to a player, like Vaughn Lacky, who could be that franchise caliber, shortstop to use, see that organizational tendency holding true here still?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I would say like to Carlos's point, like I don't think there's any way that you look at it and say, we got Nathan Thulele and Kaden Bodine.

[UNKNOWN]: So catcher is off the board.

[UNKNOWN]: That doesn't make any sense.

[UNKNOWN]: I would say though, if you looked at the,

[UNKNOWN]: And again, you don't want to go too overboard on institutional approach because even though there's a lot of people who've been there a long time, they even decision makers who've been there a long time may change some of their views and all this.

[UNKNOWN]: But if you look over the last decade to 15 years, it's clear that the rays do not value catchers the way that a lot of other organizations do.

[UNKNOWN]: And I mean that not just they don't draft catchers at the top of the draft.

[UNKNOWN]: I mean as in,

[UNKNOWN]: they come out of years where you're like, who's the catcher going to be?

[UNKNOWN]: And then they're like, we'll figure it out.

[UNKNOWN]: We'll piece it together.

[UNKNOWN]: But there's never been an off season where the rays who generally have had

[UNKNOWN]: middleing to poor catching, you know, production over the last 15, 20 years.

[UNKNOWN]: They obviously famously skipped, they did not take Buster Posey at the top of the draft.

[UNKNOWN]: That's far enough back.

[UNKNOWN]: I'm not using whether Tim Beckham vs Buster Posey has any indication on this year, but my point being,

[UNKNOWN]: They're not a team that, obviously, they don't spend a ton of money, but they've never been a team that went out and said, hey, this catcher is a really good.

[UNKNOWN]: He's in the third year.

[UNKNOWN]: He's, you know, still costs controlled.

[UNKNOWN]: We're going to go get this stud catcher from a big league club.

[UNKNOWN]: There are much more in the this team's third catcher might be able to do it for us kind of approach.

[UNKNOWN]: And if the flip side of that is,

[UNKNOWN]: They draft short stops every year.

[UNKNOWN]: They trade for short stops every year.

[UNKNOWN]: And even like when they draft a guy like Theo Gillen, they drafted a short stop immediately moved them to the outfield.

[UNKNOWN]: But Theo Gillen, Daniel Pierce, Adrian Santana, Cooper Fleming, they are a team that is absolutely enamored.

[UNKNOWN]: I would say traditionally with the high school short stop profile.

[UNKNOWN]: What's interesting with the race here with the second pick is you talk about them not being a big defender and that is true, but at least in terms of the draft this year, they will be a big defender.

[UNKNOWN]: They have the second largest bonus pool.

[UNKNOWN]: They also have a second pick at number 33 overall.

[UNKNOWN]: It may be like how they're viewing this class impacting this pick is interesting if they actually view it as a push between

[UNKNOWN]: Von Lackey and Gradie Emerson.

[UNKNOWN]: They're really not torn in the room.

[UNKNOWN]: I wonder like what their perception of the talent available at 33, how that could impact the decision.

[UNKNOWN]: If it does at all, I've heard them tied a lot to Taj Marchant to his high school shortstop with the next pick specifically.

[UNKNOWN]: If he makes it there and he's on the board at 33, it's still a point now where I would be surprised that the race passed on him.

[UNKNOWN]: They've been linked to him so heavily.

[UNKNOWN]: do they want to double down on the demographic?

[UNKNOWN]: I think they easily could.

[UNKNOWN]: That's a demographic.

[UNKNOWN]: Most teams are happy to double down on.

[UNKNOWN]: He's a right-handed hitter.

[UNKNOWN]: I also think they're a couple other interesting college catching options that have a chance to be available at 33.

[UNKNOWN]: Daniel Jackson might not get there, but he easily could.

[UNKNOWN]: Jack Nittilly, Carson Tinney.

[UNKNOWN]: They're going to be options with both these demos with their next pick.

[UNKNOWN]: And I would expect if the race don't go prep short stop at number two.

[UNKNOWN]: They're going to be a ton of options for them with their next pick.

[UNKNOWN]: the twins pick third overall?

[UNKNOWN]: Is this just a matter of, okay, Rock Chalowski, greatie hours in Van Lackey, whoever's still available here, we're going to take that guy?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think that makes the most sense.

[UNKNOWN]: I think that's the most likely scenario, whichever of the three is available, probably is going to be the pick.

[UNKNOWN]: I hear a lot more just college profiles associated with Minnesota.

[UNKNOWN]: That's not to say that like if there's a surprise in front of them and they pick between Vaughn and Grady, let's say like I've heard the twins really like Grady Emerson as well.

[UNKNOWN]: So I think he absolutely everybody does yeah.

[UNKNOWN]: Right exactly like 100%.

[UNKNOWN]: But I wonder a kind of like speculatively here with the twins.

[UNKNOWN]: I wonder if they would be a potential like Dark Horse team for a Drew Burris.

[UNKNOWN]: I've heard for a month now that like, hey, don't be shocked if Drew Burris goes higher than you think to a model oriented team.

[UNKNOWN]: at the twins would fit that description to me.

[UNKNOWN]: So that one is kind of lurking in the back here.

[UNKNOWN]: Maybe Jackson, Flora as a possibility right here for three, but I do think that's too early just given the options the twins are going to have.

[UNKNOWN]: So in some ways, I mentioned this in the staff draft that we recently did earlier this week.

[UNKNOWN]: You can see that in the video that Jacob and JJ and I did.

[UNKNOWN]: for that pick, but I just think that in some ways is the easiest pick in the draft.

[UNKNOWN]: You just take whichever these top three players are available because most teams we've talked to and I guess obviously it depends if the twins have a completely different board.

[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't matter, they should stick to their individual board, but for my perspective it's just take which of these top three players are available.

[UNKNOWN]: Is there one JJ if you're the twins that you're of those three options that you're really hoping for gets to you?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but I don't think Rock's getting there, you know?

[UNKNOWN]: Like, I mean, I've been sounds funny, but like, I know that they have merit-cuted.

[UNKNOWN]: I like merit-cuted a lot.

[UNKNOWN]: I know that we're talking about, like, again, white socks bench, like, I don't know why that we get rock, Shlowski.

[UNKNOWN]: We've got Colson Montgomery.

[UNKNOWN]: As we say a thousand times, a thousand times owner.

[UNKNOWN]: Get short stops, short stops can play anywhere.

[UNKNOWN]: If your worst scenario is is that you have Colson Montgomery and Rock Shlowski at the middle, and both of them are off, all start caliber players,

[UNKNOWN]: score.

[UNKNOWN]: But I would say, if there's an organization that just does not have a short stop right now, my apologies to Ryan Criedler, my apologies to Tristan Gray, Rochalowski slides to the twins at three somehow,

[UNKNOWN]: The day he signs, he's probably their best combo short stuff.

[UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying that he'll be no-in-shanual and be in the big leagues in a month.

[UNKNOWN]: But I would say, if they said, well, is he better defensively than the guys we have?

[UNKNOWN]: The answer would be yes, is he a better hitter than the guys we have?

[UNKNOWN]: The answer would be yes.

[UNKNOWN]: And that, again, Kael and Kolpep are in AAA.

[UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying I think he's probably a plausible option to come up with them in a second of year.

[UNKNOWN]: Rockshelowski is a better defender right now than Caitlyn Culpeper, even though Caitlyn Culpeper's made improvements.

[UNKNOWN]: So, yes, I think it would be like the dream scenario for the twins.

[UNKNOWN]: You can't say the same thing about, you know, Ryan Jeffers is getting, you know, closer to free agency and all that, but you can't say the same thing about, oh, where this catcher is going to almost immediately leap to the big league level.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's crazy to think.

[UNKNOWN]: if they drafted rock chalowski that you just write him in as their twenty twenty seven shortstop in the question is this does he get there before that well let's say the board goes as as we have a range was rock chalowski one great embers into or or some other maybe maybe great he goes one and rock goes to right what would what are the what would the twins be getting if they take Von Lackie because he was like we've had rock and gradient

[UNKNOWN]: toward the top of our list, the entire, right, whereas Von Lackey, if you said, oh, there's somebody going third overall from Georgia Tech, he would say, oh, probably your bearer.

[UNKNOWN]: It's Drew Burris, right?

[UNKNOWN]: No, like Vaughn, well, I guess he did mention Drew Burris earlier, but to me, I would, that would, to me, that would be crazy to take Drew Burris at number three, whereas Von Lackey,

[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it seems like you're getting a premium defender behind the plate at a premium position.

[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I mean, if you disagree, tell me, a potential gold glove type guy.

[UNKNOWN]: If everything clicks, oh, and this guy was a monster offensively this year.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think Von Lackey has changed his profile more significantly than any player on the board that we're going to talk about for at least the next like 15, maybe 20 picks.

[UNKNOWN]: He entered the years back of a first round talent because his defense and his athleticism and his context skills were so exceptional.

[UNKNOWN]: And I do think he entered the spring with like gold glove caliber defensive potential and reviews.

[UNKNOWN]: I think he's probably the best defensive

[UNKNOWN]: in this class, what changed with his profile is just he added more power, a significant degree of more power to the point where in the first few weeks of the season, I was talking about, oh, like we had Drew Burris ranked into the top 10, we had Von Lacky ranked behind him, we were talking to scouts like, hey, like the best approach attack player is not Drew Burris, it's Von Lacky at this stage.

[UNKNOWN]: And not the way I had a described to me from some people talking with was that the twins have had a high level decision maker.

[UNKNOWN]: I basically everything the font-like he did all spring, because that would also include Drew Burris, so that they should be pretty brushed up on that Georgia Tech team.

[UNKNOWN]: John DeVicula's covered also, exactly.

[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I think font-lucky probably has the most value of all three of these players if we just completely miss on his hit and power projections.

[UNKNOWN]: We have seen players Patrick Bailey's a player we've talked about in the past who are just valuable big ligars, even with an empty bat if you can be in a lead defensive catcher and I do think he has that defensive upside.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's the the piece that we did a couple weeks ago the case for each of the top three for number one and one thing I did with that that kind of jump out to me is just that.

[UNKNOWN]: We kind of remember the misses, again, I brought up Henry Davis, you know, like there are, like I feel like that in my perception, I feel like that college catchers at the top of the draft is a very risky demographic, but one of the things that stood out is actually, if you look at it, they're actually one of the more successful demographics at the very top of the draft.

[UNKNOWN]: I think partly that is, is that if you're a good defender,

[UNKNOWN]: you end up being like Joey Bart is not I mean Joey Bart's not a guy you want to take two overall in hindsight however Joey Bart is not the with it to like some other players are because Joey Bart being a catcher is still going to end up playing 750 a thousand games and probably in with with three you might have even have one year where we look at it's like oh that's the year that we thought Joey Bart Bart was going to have

[UNKNOWN]: You don't have that.

[UNKNOWN]: If you miss some hit, hit and power that comboed together, it's the hardest thing to evaluate with position player by far, and if you miss with Lackey, you're still going to have a good player.

[UNKNOWN]: Some of these other players were talking about.

[UNKNOWN]: If you miss Drew Burris, if you miss on that, he's not anything you need to really talk about.

[UNKNOWN]: He's Alex Call at that point.

[UNKNOWN]: And that guy's a big leader, but that's not something where you go, woohoo, that's where that's what we were looking for at the top five.

[UNKNOWN]: Well, in a year where it seems like there is a big three at the top of our draft board, the giants have the fourth overall pick.

[UNKNOWN]: Carlos is, is there any hope?

[UNKNOWN]: Is there anything, Buster Posey can do behind the scenes to get one of these?

[UNKNOWN]: I mean, is there some chance that actually, you know, they could get one of these three players between

[UNKNOWN]: You know, Jackson Fora, Jacob Lumbardi, Jay Booth, Drew Booth, you know, somebody else.

[UNKNOWN]: Right.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I guess never say never.

[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's the draft.

[UNKNOWN]: Crazy things have happened.

[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we've seen players that we did not expect at the top of the board to go inside the top three range.

[UNKNOWN]: So if someone unsurprising goes up top or

[UNKNOWN]: Um, one of these players really plays hardball in the top three and a team flinches Um, and it's just like, you know, we don't want to deal with it.

[UNKNOWN]: Um, maybe I still think it's very unlikely for that to happen.

[UNKNOWN]: It sounds like the chance really want Rock Chalowski to get to play up, but like, you know, like, I would want to pick Rock Chalowski if I'm picking 10th, but like, you're not going to get rock.

[UNKNOWN]: Sure.

[UNKNOWN]: Who I was picking fourth one, even Strasper again.

[UNKNOWN]: I do just think in baseball's draft there, there is a limit to like the amount of control you can force on the board by wants and desires and even acquiring extra picks and bonus pull the giants acquired.

[UNKNOWN]: the 29th overall pick from the guardians that added to their bonus pool they now have one of the larger pools to work with, but ultimately that's not going to matter the raise and the white socks have bigger pools and pick before them.

[UNKNOWN]: So if it's a question of money, both those teams have the money and the pick capital to make it work.

[UNKNOWN]: So I think the giants are leaning back, I've heard them connected to hitters more than anything, so I'd be really curious.

[UNKNOWN]: First scenario where Jackson Flora is still in the board like are they interested in him?

[UNKNOWN]: They should be on talent.

[UNKNOWN]: I would lean towards guys like Jacob Blombard.

[UNKNOWN]: Eric Booth Jr. Those are the two names we've heard most associated with the giants at this stage.

[UNKNOWN]: We've been heavily in the Jacob Blombard camp.

[UNKNOWN]: I believe Jacob Blombard, we have had him for the giants in every single iteration of the mock as well.

[UNKNOWN]: We've had a lot of status quo in our mock draft throughout the spring.

[UNKNOWN]: This might be the first one where I'm starting to lean otherwise.

[UNKNOWN]: I think it might be Eric Booth Jr.

[UNKNOWN]: I've heard his name associated with the giants more in the last

[UNKNOWN]: It feels hard to believe like that would be like a late switch in terms of how they're viewing the contact skills of those players, but that is the biggest difference in the profiles.

[UNKNOWN]: Eric Bush Jr. has really solid-bathed to ball skills to work with Jacob Lombard's biggest question is the swing and miss.

[UNKNOWN]: I think they are both really athletic.

[UNKNOWN]: Really tools are you really high-upside premium position prep players?

[UNKNOWN]: I think they're probably going to be the favorites here.

[UNKNOWN]: But I'm fairly torn on which is their preference at this stage.

[UNKNOWN]: I like them taking Jacob Lumbar, JJ, because then next year we get an in-field for their low-A team with Jacob Lumbar, Luis Hernandez, and Joshua Gonzalez, like one of them.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if they're going to throw one of them at first base or something for some games, but I think that would be exciting, but if you think, we have Jackson 4 of 4th overall,

[UNKNOWN]: It does seem, well, I'm not, is it, you know, a reach to take one of the high school bats there or is it more like, hey, Jackson for these high school bats, and maybe throw some college bats.

[UNKNOWN]: into the mix, too, is all kind of on the same tier of player.

[UNKNOWN]: So I want to point out, like this is the part where I feel like I make Carlos bristle a little bit when I bring this up, but like I do think there's a difference here.

[UNKNOWN]: Like we've got the white socks and raised at the top.

[UNKNOWN]: And one of the things about this is we are now in a world where I do think you factor in how quickly players move, kind of where you are in your cycle, a little bit with that.

[UNKNOWN]: Not because you say I want to make that the reason I make a pick, but

[UNKNOWN]: If you're good and you add impact talent, if you're, you know, if you add impact talent, and we are literally in a year or now where we are guys who are picked in 24 in the All-Star game in 26 multiple guys.

[UNKNOWN]: Like, it's not crazy to say, okay, if I like these guys similarly, the college guy who I think could move really fast or sometimes the high school guy, like kind of riff and move really fast, Kevin McGonagall, that there's some value in that.

[UNKNOWN]: in the Giants case right now.

[UNKNOWN]: I feel like that Jackson Flora, something that might be appealing about him to some teams, is that he could be a reasonably fast mover.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that helps the Giants so a lot right now.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't know where the Giants are in there.

[UNKNOWN]: I feel like that they're in the bargaining stage of grief of recognizing that they're probably, that this push is not worked, and they're gonna have to kind of retool.

[UNKNOWN]: That's to me that adds to why you maybe want to take one of these high school guys if you think they're similarly talented because yes, they're going to take probably a little bit longer to get there, but you're hoping for a bigger upside potentially and the the downside of oh, this is the pick that won't really get there until 29, you know 2829 30 depending on development path is not as trouble someone you're really not probably going to be contending next year.

[UNKNOWN]: Alright, we'll sell me then on, you said Carlos E. J. Poooth, potentially here ahead of Jacob Blummords, only on E. J. Poooth, ahead of Blumbar, because when I see the two of them,

[UNKNOWN]: I think they're both extremely tooled up players.

[UNKNOWN]: They're both very explosive players.

[UNKNOWN]: They're both very athletic players.

[UNKNOWN]: They both run extremely well.

[UNKNOWN]: They both have batsby.

[UNKNOWN]: They both hit the ball extremely hard.

[UNKNOWN]: But when I see the two of them, I see Jacob one-barred having a chance to be a

[UNKNOWN]: above average plus defender at short stop.

[UNKNOWN]: And there is more swing and miss there.

[UNKNOWN]: More swing and miss than I would expect is given his swing because I think he actually has a better swing than booth like with booth it's extremely high contact but it's also a lot of balls slapped into the ground like he didn't go out and dominate the summer.

[UNKNOWN]: Now neither did Jacob one

[UNKNOWN]: But I see with Lump, I see me with Booth somebody who's probably going to have to make some swing adjustments and who also, as well as he runs, he's not built like your typical center field or either it's more like taller version, maybe people like Jason Dominguez or maybe like Yolon Monkada like that thick strong.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but again, extremely athletic and has the speed right now, certainly, for center field what for you, thanks, makes you say booth potentially ahead of one bar.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I know you would be in the, I'm taking Lombard camp, I'm in the Iowa take care of the junior camp, and I think it really just comes down to my concerns about the context skills with Jacob Blombard.

[UNKNOWN]: I think part of me is a little bit concerned that the swing looks as good as it does, like you said, I think aesthetically, mechanically, if you're

[UNKNOWN]: You're saying like who has the more typical looking swing Jacob Lombard's looks like how you would draw it up in some ways and Eric but Gina does have this kind of unusual handset like you said he can get a little bit sloppy I don't know that he naturally pulls the ball into the air right now He's long been talked about it as a guy who's gonna need some swing changes or swing tweaks

[UNKNOWN]: I am less concerned with that element of his game, and I think he's already made some good progress this spring and just like smoothing out this wing.

[UNKNOWN]: You also add the fact that Eric with Juniors almost a full year younger than Jacob Blumbard.

[UNKNOWN]: He's a left-handed hitter.

[UNKNOWN]: I do think Jacob Blumbard is the more polished defender now.

[UNKNOWN]: I think he's probably going to be a more impactful defender even in the long-term, but at the same time Eric Booth.

[UNKNOWN]: is an 80-grade runner, maybe he slows down to a 70-grade runner at physical maturity because he doesn't have this super long lean frame to fill out.

[UNKNOWN]: I still think he could be a really good defender in center field.

[UNKNOWN]: And so for me, it's just the confidence in the contact skill that I think would be the reason why I go in that direction.

[UNKNOWN]: But again, like Jacob Blombard, he's a tremendous athlete.

[UNKNOWN]: He has big league bloodlines.

[UNKNOWN]: Like I do think there are some

[UNKNOWN]: compelling reasons to believe that he could make the adjustments necessary to tap into more contact moving forward at the same time.

[UNKNOWN]: If you look at his misrails and who he stacks up with, among a recent high school players who have struggled, I think that's a more serious red flag for me personally than whatever Eric with Junior's red flags would be.

[UNKNOWN]: The Pirates, Pittsburgh Pirates, picking fifth overall, they also have the 34th overall pick in the draft.

[UNKNOWN]: So last year, Seth Hernandez, year before that, Connor Griffin, they've been all right.

[UNKNOWN]: What do you think they're doing this year?

[UNKNOWN]: Carlos and other high upside high school play.

[UNKNOWN]: Do they go a different route?

[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.

[UNKNOWN]: They've had some staffing changes there.

[UNKNOWN]: Loosen some of their key decision makers, but pretty good track record with our last couple picks.

[UNKNOWN]: The pirates have seemingly gotten a lot more quiet than most of the other teams inside the top 10, so I haven't heard any new chatter on them in recent days and weeks, but given everything you just said, it's hard to roll out profiles like Jacob Blombard or Eric Bucchiner, because they've had success with it.

[UNKNOWN]: It's hard to rule out profiles that other teams perceive as too risky.

[UNKNOWN]: because they have been happy to take those profiles and they've benefited from it.

[UNKNOWN]: So I do think like even at this stage at the board, this is where a name like Justin LeBron becomes really interesting.

[UNKNOWN]: I think this is the highest realistic.

[UNKNOWN]: I think I don't think it's the most likely, but I would hate to not mention it and then see it happen on draft day because I have heard him like in consideration here.

[UNKNOWN]: He did not have a very good.

[UNKNOWN]: See, no, again, no, he didn't work.

[UNKNOWN]: We're going to throw a gun, I think it could be a first round pick.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to get a misconstrued, but for a guy who we did think potentially could go top five overall did not have that kind of year this year.

[UNKNOWN]: He did not have that kind of year, and yet I've heard his name associated with basically all the teams picking from five to ten in this range.

[UNKNOWN]: He could be a backup option for every team in this range.

[UNKNOWN]: She's probably not the most likely option in the board until we get into the teens, but I do think his toolset and upside make him worth a conversation.

[UNKNOWN]: The name I've heard most with the pirates and the name we've mocked most to the pirates is not a hit or it's not a profile.

[UNKNOWN]: It's typically perceived as super risky in general.

[UNKNOWN]: it is Jackson Flora and I think this could make a lot of sense for the Pirates as well because they've done a great job getting a lot out of their pitching prospects.

[UNKNOWN]: Jackson Flora has the most exciting upside potential.

[UNKNOWN]: I think of this pitching class overall.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't think he has this sort of polish that Kate Anderson did.

[UNKNOWN]: a year ago, I don't think he has the same command and control that his former teammate, Tyler Bremner did at the same time, but he is more physical than Tyler Bremner.

[UNKNOWN]: I think he has a more impactful, maybe pair of breaking balls, his change up has really come along.

[UNKNOWN]: I think it's like a mid-rotation starter potential if the command continues to improve.

[UNKNOWN]: The one question mark I have with Jackson Flora is,

[UNKNOWN]: People are going to look at his era and say what are you talking about but like I feel like you should have dominated a bit more against his competition than he actually did the strikeout rates that he had this year weren't as impressive as you would expect and they don't really stack up with the strikeout rates of the top

[UNKNOWN]: college pitchers who have come off the board in recent years.

[UNKNOWN]: So that is kind of my one question, but he does seem to be the consensus top pitching prospect in the class.

[UNKNOWN]: I think this is a very likely possibility for him at five to the pirates.

[UNKNOWN]: If he doesn't go here, it doesn't sound like he's going to last too too much longer.

[UNKNOWN]: 106 ERA not good enough for Carlos.

[UNKNOWN]: J.J. threw a bunch of names out there.

[UNKNOWN]: Do any of those guys jump out as particulars as somebody you like for the piratory urges you like if you were there.

[UNKNOWN]: I do like Flora there like I feel like you're getting the best picture in the class probably or at least the guy who's again you could argue if you wanted some of these high school arms that's a different you are you know you're taking on a different level of risk if you take those guys compared to the guy who for all of his flaws of missing bats you know this does have you know perform has a track record performance

[UNKNOWN]: Um, I think with the pirates like, if you're sitting here, that's kind of like, I feel like you, for, again, there's no precision of this, but you are talking that you are picking here at the very back end of what we feel like is the top tier and the second tier.

[UNKNOWN]: I would be concerned about dipping beyond that tier.

[UNKNOWN]: to, you know, and I say that what I mean by is, is we got the top three that feels like they're the top three.

[UNKNOWN]: And then it does feel like that there's another three that is the Lumbar Booth floor a group that's kind of your next three.

[UNKNOWN]: And after that, then it gets to where it's a lot more jumbled.

[UNKNOWN]: I'm probably sitting here going, where I'm picking, I'm going to get a chance to have one of that second tier guys, not the first tier's not getting to me.

[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to try to pick from a mung that top that second tier.

[UNKNOWN]: The Pirates also have the 34th overall pick.

[UNKNOWN]: Do you hear any rumblings of what they might do?

[UNKNOWN]: They're or a kind of strategy.

[UNKNOWN]: Say they take forward, you think they would compliment it with a bat beyond that, Carlos?

[UNKNOWN]: I can actually see them being an orthopedifying doubling down.

[UNKNOWN]: On pitching, I don't know that they would be like, oh, we definitely have to take a hit or next.

[UNKNOWN]: I also heard a possibility of them trading this pick.

[UNKNOWN]: So whether or not they even have this pick on draft day, will be interesting.

[UNKNOWN]: It is a pick they can trade.

[UNKNOWN]: So that would be interesting if it actually happens.

[UNKNOWN]: I think there are a number of high school hitters who could make sense.

[UNKNOWN]: I mentioned Taj Marshand.

[UNKNOWN]: I think Colt ProSec, if he gets there, would make a lot of sense.

[UNKNOWN]: I think guys like Chents and Hirsch Korn, right in a picture out of California, he could be a possible fit for the Pirates in that comp round.

[UNKNOWN]: It really any of our top high school pictures, like the Logan Schmitts of the world.

[UNKNOWN]: I haven't heard Coleman Boarth make specifically with the Pirates, but he would make a lot of sense on talent, same thing with Carson Pullman.

[UNKNOWN]: the biggest bonus of any team in this year's draft.

[UNKNOWN]: So whoever they're getting, it should be a heavy hitter with that next pick, if they keep the pick, I think they could do a lot of damage once you get into, like 15 to 20 on the board, you have a highly,

[UNKNOWN]: Like a really talented player that gets there, the pirates are already going to be in a position where especially if you're a high school player with leverage, you could put out a really big number in the pirates might be one of the only teams who can afford it.

[UNKNOWN]: So I do think they're whoever they get there, they're going to be a team to watch.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

[UNKNOWN]: Go ahead.

[UNKNOWN]: Can I ask one question?

[UNKNOWN]: Why would the pirates consider trading that pick?

[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.

[UNKNOWN]: That's what I've heard, though.

[UNKNOWN]: So I know saying you haven't heard it.

[UNKNOWN]: I'm just saying like to me where the pirates are right now.

[UNKNOWN]: the potential for the pirates who we just know are not going to go out there at the end of the season and go.

[UNKNOWN]: Okay, we've got three holes.

[UNKNOWN]: Who's you've got the biggest checkbook out here.

[UNKNOWN]: We're going to sign the top guy.

[UNKNOWN]: The trade return on those picks is not something where

[UNKNOWN]: Pirates are going to trade that pick and in return get someone where you're like, okay, well, I thought that the pirates were on the fringe of the playoff race, but now take Dallas is a whole different story.

[UNKNOWN]: With that being the case, it just seems you just rattled off a whole lot of names that if I'm a pirate's fan, I would be intrigued with getting there.

[UNKNOWN]: No one that is not a, you know, it's not a safe bet, but to be able to take someone at the top of the draft here,

[UNKNOWN]: in that second tier and then get another kind of high-up side from the area of this draft that we said is where the strength of the draft in a lot of places.

[UNKNOWN]: One of the reasons why they might be more willing to do it is because last year they did not sign Angel Survantace so they have the 51st pick as well.

[UNKNOWN]: So part of the reason why they had such a huge pool is they had this extra pick at 34 in the comp round.

[UNKNOWN]: They have a supplemental pick at 51.

[UNKNOWN]: They have their typical second round pick at 44.

[UNKNOWN]: So if they're thinking as, hey, there's a big league trade that would be meaningfully beneficial to our organization.

[UNKNOWN]: And the 34th pick is kind of the sweetener that makes the deal happen.

[UNKNOWN]: That can make it's on a sense.

[UNKNOWN]: And you still probably feel like you can do some damage on draft day.

[UNKNOWN]: If that's for a player who's going to really impact them, I'm all, I see the logic that completely.

[UNKNOWN]: If that's to be traded because really in the hindsight of it is, we didn't expect to have this much money and we don't want to spend this much on the draft, right?

[UNKNOWN]: I would be very opposed.

[UNKNOWN]: Like again, if you say I also think the hit rate of the 34th pick in the draft is so low,

[UNKNOWN]: I'm always on team, hey, like you should trade your prospects for big league real value.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't think the 34th pick in this draft is something that should be held so sacred that you can't possibly move it.

[UNKNOWN]: I think there are any number of trades that could make a lot of sense.

[UNKNOWN]: Even if the Pirates maybe you feel like you want to keep stockpiling talent.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, if you find a good trade, move it.

[UNKNOWN]: Again, my thing is usually when we see these trades for what the same way that, again, they have a higher price.

[UNKNOWN]: They thankfully have a higher price than when you see a team trade, you know, away bonus pool international bonus pool apartment.

[UNKNOWN]: It often feels like it's in a trade for a player who it's like, will be on the team for a month and a half is in a up and down reliever role.

[UNKNOWN]: If you're getting something real in return, I have no problem with it, but I would absolutely if I'm the pirates, I am not, I would not want to trade it for something that is a, okay, this will be the six best reliever in our bullpen type guy.

[UNKNOWN]: I would want it to be something more substantial than that.

[UNKNOWN]: And yes, I can

[UNKNOWN]: the last year was Michael Ovedo, 34th pick.

[UNKNOWN]: That was the Tiger's guy who's been hurt this year, we'll see what he comes.

[UNKNOWN]: Blake Burke the year before that, who is mashing, but we'll see how well he can hit.

[UNKNOWN]: But again, it's something where that range, you're, you're, you're getting a lottery ticket, but you're getting a lottery ticket of some sort, and you're getting, it's an extra lottery ticket when you have all those other picks there, too.

[UNKNOWN]: The six overall pick this year belongs to the Kansas City Royals.

[UNKNOWN]: They have two top 30 overall picks this year.

[UNKNOWN]: They pick it six.

[UNKNOWN]: They pick it 30 Carlos, what are you here and the royals are gonna do this year?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Rolls are weird, the Rolls are the first team where you hear a lot of other options that are not in this kind of consensus group of six.

[UNKNOWN]: This is the first part of the board where if it's not a Jacob Lombard or an Eric Booth Jr., I may be even think another player is more likely.

[UNKNOWN]: A guy like Gio Rojas is associated with the Rolls.

[UNKNOWN]: At 10, I know this is a team that's put a lot of work in on that pitching prospect in particular.

[UNKNOWN]: He's the top ranked high school.

[UNKNOWN]: pitcher in the class that this seems like is most likely realistic.

[UNKNOWN]: Lansing spot I've also heard over the last few days it like there's a possibility that there is like maybe some ownership direction that like hey we want a quick moving player that the Royals have not played well at the big league level whether it's ownership or front office kind of dictating hey we want a quicker moving pick does that come into play and effect who the team is taking I've heard the Royals

[UNKNOWN]: Liam Peterson and Mason Edwards, they feel like a little bit unlikely for pick number six, just given the talent in this class and what those pictures have done this year.

[UNKNOWN]: The Royals also do pick again at pick number 30.

[UNKNOWN]: Maybe they're hoping one or both of those guys gets to pick 27.

[UNKNOWN]: They both feel like pictures here are going to go in between their first two picks.

[UNKNOWN]: But for me, high school seems like that might be the direction that the scouting staff in particular might want to go here.

[UNKNOWN]: I've just heard they really like Jacob Lombard, I've heard they really like Joe Rohan's.

[UNKNOWN]: And changing the Royals, as we sit here today, the second worst record in baseball, they do not strike me as a team that is just one fast-moving college player away from getting back to the playoffs.

[UNKNOWN]: I do feel like Rojas, there's a lot of logic to that.

[UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying that that's necessarily where they're gonna go, but like, if you look at,

[UNKNOWN]: Brian Bridges, who's our scouting director now.

[UNKNOWN]: If you look at his history, go back to the braves.

[UNKNOWN]: They had no problem with taking high school pitchers and they did a pretty good job with it.

[UNKNOWN]: And I do feel like I know I've been talking about taught tiers and tiers and tiers and how the different tiers are here.

[UNKNOWN]: I'll ask you Carlos, I'll ask you Ben.

[UNKNOWN]: You guys were, you know, following the prep class for longer than I have this, you know, more intensely.

[UNKNOWN]: I feel like that if there's a guy that you could make an argument, kind of fits close to that on the high school side, it would be rowoffs.

[UNKNOWN]: Like, you could make an argument.

[UNKNOWN]: If you told me that some teams boards had rowoffs, kind of that same range as a lumber to the booth, that would not struck me at all.

[UNKNOWN]: I feel like.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's not too far off that range for us right now on the board.

[UNKNOWN]: We've got him ranked right in the middle of the ten to twenty range.

[UNKNOWN]: I do think there's a bit of a tear break, but I don't think it's significant to where you could say, oh, we have him next in our board.

[UNKNOWN]: That's crazy.

[UNKNOWN]: and the high school pitching ranks and he does have pretty electric arms be.

[UNKNOWN]: What are your thoughts and like is just under class track record bent?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's long been either number one, number two, high school pitcher in the class for us six foot four left hand of pitcher, super easy delivery, up to 98 miles an hour throws a lot of strikes to has,

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, if I had if I had to take a high school pitcher here or with a penny pick I would love to have GLRLoss for me Any high school pitcher six overall who isn't like in that Seth Hernandez tier and I don't think GLRLoss is in that

[UNKNOWN]: group Seth Hernandez was throwing a hundred miles an hour with a wipeout change up and had field of spin, a breaking ball, maybe not a refined breaking ball.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but maybe comparable to Rojas actually another thing about it, but I don't just don't think he's at that Seth Hernandez level, not many are.

[UNKNOWN]: I also would not be surprised if they ended up taking Giora's here because he does seem to fit a lot of traits and checks a lot of boxes that the Royals and their decision

[UNKNOWN]: So then after that we have the Orioles picking 7th overall, don't have a gazillion picks like they did last year, Carlos, what router are you hearing they might go with this pick?

[UNKNOWN]: If Jacob Lombard or Eric with Junior on the board, they feel like they're the favorites of this stage just given how heavily associated the Orioles have been with both those players.

[UNKNOWN]: If they both get there, I'm uncertain of like which they're

[UNKNOWN]: Preference would actually be, but I think both of them would be favorites.

[UNKNOWN]: Beyond that, I hear a lot of college hitters.

[UNKNOWN]: That is going to be a theme for a lot of the teams in this 7 to 13, 14 range, because I just think the college hitters are the best on the board.

[UNKNOWN]: The one that's interesting to me that I don't fully buy is Jackson Flora.

[UNKNOWN]: Like if Jackson Flora is on the board with the Orioles.

[UNKNOWN]: Either in this year, think that the talent is worth it or with this signal, a shift in philosophy.

[UNKNOWN]: The Orioles have got to take in a picture in the draft inside the top 50 picks and Michael Ises tenure with the team.

[UNKNOWN]: I know Joseph Jerwa is doing well.

[UNKNOWN]: He was picked, I believe, like, four picks after that.

[UNKNOWN]: 50 eight.

[UNKNOWN]: So if I'm them, you could maybe say, hey, like clearly it works for us.

[UNKNOWN]: We're getting good value on pitching and we're not having to spend premium draft capital to do that.

[UNKNOWN]: So I do think pitching,

[UNKNOWN]: especially high school pitching seems really unlikely here, but you at least have to wonder if Laura's on the board.

[UNKNOWN]: Beyond that, and J.J.

[UNKNOWN]: I'll let you chime in here.

[UNKNOWN]: I think you're about to come in on the pitching, and that can get some other names.

[UNKNOWN]: I just want to say that so like they did take sure about 58 last year that was their fifth pick and they took nine picks in the top 154 and that was the only picture they took.

[UNKNOWN]: So I would say that last year didn't really signal you know maybe this year well but last year did not signal a significant change to their approach that they are very much positioned player heavy at the top of the draft.

[UNKNOWN]: Right, and I do expect a bat here.

[UNKNOWN]: I think other names like Ben's favorite age at Gracia starts to become like a real factor on the draft board of Virginia, Alfield, or Chris Hicopian, Derek Curiel, another potential landing spot for Justin LeBron.

[UNKNOWN]: I think Tyler Bell, I can tuck he starts to pick up steam.

[UNKNOWN]: I think Ryder Helfreick becomes interesting here.

[UNKNOWN]: Drew Burris, who I don't think I even mentioned, this feels like almost like getting close to his floor.

[UNKNOWN]: So depending on how it goes, there are any number of hitting options that make sense.

[UNKNOWN]: And I do think that once we start to get into that group of names I mentioned, it's very hard to separate them.

[UNKNOWN]: The Orioles have taken extreme offensive profiles in the past.

[UNKNOWN]: So whether that's just a willingness to take players with obvious flaws,

[UNKNOWN]: whether they just want to get big tools and are happy with some of the variants that comes from the hitting ability there.

[UNKNOWN]: It would make a lot of sense for them to take a Justin LeBron because of what they've done in the past, but take your pick of any number of those names.

[UNKNOWN]: I think Drew Burris, Eric Lomb, Eric, both Junior and Jacob Lombard would be most likely.

[UNKNOWN]: So not really a type, I guess, other than probably hit her because all of those hitters you just kind of have to are very very different players, JJs.

[UNKNOWN]: Is there one that seems more of like an Orioles type 5 to you?

[UNKNOWN]: I'm just kind of imploring them to go away from one approach, which is the Orioles have probably spent more draft capital on college out filters in the 2020s than any other team.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's probably very close.

[UNKNOWN]: And

[UNKNOWN]: they it has not really worked for them that well.

[UNKNOWN]: Um, I mean, they've had a couple of guys who've become, you know, Dylan Beaver's has made it up there.

[UNKNOWN]: He's kind of up and down.

[UNKNOWN]: They've had, you know, Colton Couser, but they just, they, they generally, they've been taking a ton of, of college outfathers at the top of the graph, I would say, in the, in the 2020s.

[UNKNOWN]: And,

[UNKNOWN]: It just feels like that they've had more success in general when they've taken the infielders.

[UNKNOWN]: When they've taken the, you know, Adly obviously Adly was a catcher, but then they took, you know, they took the high school chore stops and got our Henderson and Jackson holiday.

[UNKNOWN]: They took the college infielders with Jordan Westburg.

[UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying even everyone of those has worked out.

[UNKNOWN]: They traded Connor Norby.

[UNKNOWN]: They traded away in the college side, Kyle Stowers, who's probably end up being better than like a Hesting Care status been for them.

[UNKNOWN]: But I would say if they're going on the position

[UNKNOWN]: I know that they still need out filters, the fact that they still need out filters after drafting this many out filters over the last, you know, I, to give an example, like they took care stat in Haskin in the top 40 picks in 20, they took Calzer fifth overall, they took Read Trimble, John Rhodes and Dante Williams with picks in the top one of six in 21, they took

[UNKNOWN]: They took Enrique Bradville, 17th, Mac Horvath, 53rd, and Taevon Josenberger, who I kind of have to be honest, don't really remember much of after he was drafted, but at Pick 100.

[UNKNOWN]: And then they took fans, how they cut it 22, they take Austin over in at 97 and 24.

[UNKNOWN]: And then last year, okay, they actually only took RJ Austin 93.

[UNKNOWN]: That was the only college out there.

[UNKNOWN]: But that's a lot of draft capital towards college outfielders.

[UNKNOWN]: And there aren't a whole lot of those guys where you just say, okay, they went out, then traded for Taylor Ward in the off season because they signed, you know, Tyler O'Neill to a multi-year deal.

[UNKNOWN]: couple of years ago, they still need it out for the respect that.

[UNKNOWN]: So I would say go in a different direction of my approach.

[UNKNOWN]: All right.

[UNKNOWN]: I like AJ Grassey here, so I I will disagree.

[UNKNOWN]: No, I think you have a that is not an inspiring track record that you just rattled off there for the college outfielders, but wouldn't that be surprised you there if they ended up going back to that well either.

[UNKNOWN]: But Carlos, the A's pick eighth overall this year, they have definitely leaned heavy into the college demographic in recent years with their top picks.

[UNKNOWN]: Do you see it going the same route this year?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I do feel like just unlikely that the top three high school players and you have them get to this range.

[UNKNOWN]: I view the orals of something of a floor for those profiles.

[UNKNOWN]: And so I've not heard many high school players associated with them.

[UNKNOWN]: I've heard a lot of

[UNKNOWN]: I've heard that the A's really want pitching, they could wind up in a scenario where there's just not a pitcher that makes sense to draft here.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't view the A's as a team who would like force an arm here just because they want one.

[UNKNOWN]: But if Jackson Flora gets all the way down to eight, that would be phenomenal value for them.

[UNKNOWN]: I believe, and maybe it would line up, but just a perceived need.

[UNKNOWN]: Otherwise, it's a lot of college hitters.

[UNKNOWN]: It's a lot of the same group of players.

[UNKNOWN]: I just mentioned Drew Burris makes a ton of sense if he's available here.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't hear high school arms.

[UNKNOWN]: I haven't heard geobrohauses name much at all, so I'm inclined to lean towards just college demographic generally, but Tyler Bell starts to get a lot of action here.

[UNKNOWN]: Derek Curry, I'll write her help for it.

[UNKNOWN]: Those are some of the names.

[UNKNOWN]: See if there's any of the names I'm not mentioning here that I should, but you think Drew Burris could get to this pick or would they?

[UNKNOWN]: I think so.

[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we haven't talked about Drew Burris at a ton of different places in front of this pick before right like I mentioned him pretty heavily with the Orioles.

[UNKNOWN]: I mentioned him was like a dark horse on likely pick with the twins at three.

[UNKNOWN]: The Royals we had a mock two last time I would come off that more compared to to that mock.

[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, I do think like there's a there's a decent chance, of course, if

[UNKNOWN]: If the Royals go somewhere with someone not in our top six, that leaves one of the high school players to the Orals at seven, you're easily looking at a scenario where we're drew versus on the board.

[UNKNOWN]: So I think there are a number of different iterations where he could be available here for them.

[UNKNOWN]: is he like how we're talking about the his he kind of separated self we said there's a lot of college out filters to kind of start floating into this is he kind of hearing his our hearing his name more kind of a little bit of the other group so here's how i would describe your verse in his thought i think he is generally in the group of names that includes writer healthric Tyler Bell Derek curiell

[UNKNOWN]: Chrissicopion in ACE-rease and Chrissicopion in ACE-rease might have a little separation at the bottom.

[UNKNOWN]: So let's just focus on Helphric Burris, Tyler Bell, Derek Creole.

[UNKNOWN]: Those names I'm all hearing as like the next.

[UNKNOWN]: the best of the rest after the top six.

[UNKNOWN]: And I do think Drupers has a little bit more ceiling and more chances to go off the board earlier because he grades out so well for analytically inclined model heavy teams that are a lot of model heavy teams picking the top 10.

[UNKNOWN]: The track record of his performance is greater than all the players in that group.

[UNKNOWN]: So I think there are just more positives for him at the high end.

[UNKNOWN]: And so if you like he's the least likely of that group to fall, if that makes sense, but I think they're all kind of in the same range.

[UNKNOWN]: You think it is probably college bet, JJ or are there any of those college bats in particular that jump out for you?

[UNKNOWN]: I do think it's probably like looking back, you have to go back to Max Muncie, you have to go back to Tyler Sotterstrom the last time that the A's took a prep player in the first round at the same time.

[UNKNOWN]: the a's have a little bit more stability than most is the same player is a lot of the same people making those decisions now that we're willing to take a sawdust from not that long ago and stuff from that standpoint i think i don't want to say like oh they're clearly a doctor and air they only go this way they they have shown other approaches but i also think

[UNKNOWN]: It does, as Carlos laid out, we also kind of were talking about the way the board lines up may kind of put them in that position too, because if, again, especially if Booth in Lombard are both off the board, the next high school guys, it feels like there may be a group of college guys who are a little bit above them on your, on just on, on most teams boards.

[UNKNOWN]: The braves pick at number nine overall.

[UNKNOWN]: They also have the 26th overall pick this year feels like a pretty good year for for the braves on the farm or a cartman blowing up Tates south the scene doing well John Hill a bunch of guys doing well in in the minor leagues right now for the braves Carlos, what are you hearing on them at number nine?

[UNKNOWN]: This feels like the second most likely or another hot landing spot I should say for Gioro Rojas, our top high school pitcher on the board.

[UNKNOWN]: If he doesn't go to the Royals, this would be that the next team I circled as a real possibility for him.

[UNKNOWN]: Outside of Rojas, I've heard a lot of college hitters against, it's kind of that same group of names.

[UNKNOWN]: Drew Burris would make a lot of sense.

[UNKNOWN]: I have heard Chris Acopian in Asia, Gracia in particular with the Braves.

[UNKNOWN]: I think Justin LeBron again becomes a possibility here.

[UNKNOWN]: And then further down,

[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that Kade Townsend fits at nine for the braves, but he could easily fit with their next pick.

[UNKNOWN]: And I do think just to highlight here, the braves feel like one of the maybe five most likely or most willing orcs to take high school pitchers in general, just traditionally they've done that.

[UNKNOWN]: Alex and Thopeless, wherever he's been, he's been very adamant about stockpiling arms in the draft.

[UNKNOWN]: And he's shown a willingness to do that with the braves.

[UNKNOWN]: Does that indicate that the braids are more likely to go hit or I'm not I'm not too sure I think you could maybe even say like some of the offensive seasons we've seen from the prospects on the farm Maybe make them be like hey, I like we've got some good breakouts We can just take whatever we're most excited about and if that's just a row-hoss We'll just get another guy in the 20th round who will break out car 100% yeah You get the one throw hits you're good.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so those are some of the names.

[UNKNOWN]: I'm hearing any of those names a particular jump out for you JJ the you here

[UNKNOWN]: Um, I would say like you said the like all said the braves.

[UNKNOWN]: I have no idea whether they're going pitching or hitting, but the braves have our absolutely willing to belly up to the bar and say we will take a prep arm and wear a lot of teams, or especially a verse at this point.

[UNKNOWN]: I didn't want us to call us with this, like you said, it's too soon for Cape Townsend here.

[UNKNOWN]: At the same time, is it plausible that is this a team that may try to get a little cute as far as can they push guys to later picks that may be

[UNKNOWN]: with where they think it might still be like um and might be the case where the braves the braves are a team that has underslaught at their first pick and pushed some some savings to later picks um in a lot of their drafts I don't know whether that's specifically because they want to push someone or it's just because like hey we like this player who's not a consensus

[UNKNOWN]: player on the board at this range we're going to take him anyways or it's like hey there's a group of six that it's hard to separate we'll get the best deal we can and we feel pretty good about our ability to create value with players later on the board that we can send so that money too so I wouldn't be surprised at all if the brave just understood it early because they've done that they've had success doing that and they do seem

[UNKNOWN]: Like one of these teams that are happy to spend some money on maybe some surprising profiles later in the draft They've done this at the juke of level.

[UNKNOWN]: They've done this at the high school level.

[UNKNOWN]: They really like two way players players with multi-sport backgrounds So yeah, I think that that could be a possibility for them

[UNKNOWN]: Do you think they could go caught one of those colleges or could be a high school player early and then do a over slot for a high school player or maybe doesn't even have to be high school or see me over slot for a high school player with that next pick maybe looking at somebody like a like a Coleman-Borthwek, a big power arm high school right hand picture

[UNKNOWN]: from Florida, or an Aden release, a switch hitting short stop like you said they just drafted a high school, short stop last year with their top peg last year and takes out the scene.

[UNKNOWN]: Do you see guys like that being in the mix there?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think they easily could like that they were team that I would throw for like a Rocco Manascalco maybe and not sure like where his market's going to start to heat up.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't matter and it's around there.

[UNKNOWN]: Maybe they could even wait a little bit longer.

[UNKNOWN]: For him, but with his combine showing it on maybe he's getting more buzz.

[UNKNOWN]: At the beginning of the high school pitchers, make a ton of sense, just given what the brace had done historically.

[UNKNOWN]: If they could get a lovin' shmit in that range, if they could get, again, geo-rowhouse feels very unlikely to get to that range.

[UNKNOWN]: But any high school pitcher, not aim, geo-rowhouse feels like a real possibility for them.

[UNKNOWN]: That's 26, just given, given their extra picks, given how the board is likely to unfold before them, all of those could make sense, out of throughout names.

[UNKNOWN]: Mason Edwards, Taylor Rape, Teacon Coons, on the college side as well as Kate Townsend who are previously mentioned as well.

[UNKNOWN]: Well, the Rockies pick 10th overall, and they got two picks, two more picks I should say in the top 40 overall they pick 37th, 38th obviously a lot of changes in that organization in the front office.

[UNKNOWN]: Do you see them go in college heavy, obviously that was something Paul D. Podesta was heavy on in his previous tenure in baseball.

[UNKNOWN]: Do you see them going that route again this year?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're kind of an interesting one.

[UNKNOWN]: I have her really college heavy for their first pick.

[UNKNOWN]: A lot of college players associated with them.

[UNKNOWN]: And then I've also heard the associate with a lot of high school pitching.

[UNKNOWN]: My understanding of that is like, we're looking at a team in the Rockies who,

[UNKNOWN]: Pick at 37 and 38.

[UNKNOWN]: They have some new decision makers in the front office.

[UNKNOWN]: Some of them have been with teams who have been willing to take high school pitching.

[UNKNOWN]: So maybe that just makes more sense for them to do a high school arm at 37 or 38.

[UNKNOWN]: I haven't heard a high school arm heavily associated with 10 specifically.

[UNKNOWN]: It's been a lot of college bats.

[UNKNOWN]: It's been guys like Derek Curiel and Ryder Hellfrick.

[UNKNOWN]: Those are the two that I'm hearing most often.

[UNKNOWN]: So Curiel at LSU as like this pure hitting.

[UNKNOWN]: center field profile, who I'm particularly bullish on, is listeners of the pot, who know, Ryder Hellfrick.

[UNKNOWN]: I think this is kind of feels like the midpoint of his range, like four or five picks on either side of this feels like he should be off the board at some point, just a ton of power, really good defense.

[UNKNOWN]: I've heard some whispers of college arms, Cameron Flukius and A. Myford, it sounds like Liam Peterson is a name who's been linked as well.

[UNKNOWN]: Both of those feel a little bit

[UNKNOWN]: could play out, but I at least want to mention them, because I've heard them.

[UNKNOWN]: Jared Grindlinger is a name that I've heard as well.

[UNKNOWN]: I also get the sense this would be kind of the top end of Jared Grindlinger's market.

[UNKNOWN]: Those are kind of the names I've heard so far.

[UNKNOWN]: Can I say that Derek Creel, like this does feel to be like a pick that would fit for them, and I've been that partly because of what they've been bad at, right?

[UNKNOWN]: Like with Creel, you were talking about a surefire defender who can cover ground in the outfield,

[UNKNOWN]: Maybe even for them, I mean, maybe like, hey, I feel you have an 80 in center.

[UNKNOWN]: They don't write now, but if you have an 80 in center, you could put it in a corner even.

[UNKNOWN]: But then also, the power is going to play up a little bit, but more than that, big outfield, let him spray the ball around, hit for average, get on base, run the bases.

[UNKNOWN]: I kind of like, again, you're, I know that cars are the bigger dirt career, I'll believe I am, but I kind of like the profile for a team that I feel like has

[UNKNOWN]: has really like what where they need to sag from where they zigged before under the old regime is this the team that did not draft up the middle players the whole lot they drafted a whole lot of kind of corner power at the top of the draft not a lot of short stops

[UNKNOWN]: I feel like this is a team that right now, if you said what could they use, let's go back to bringing in up the middle players with athleticism who can hit and then developing the power down the road rather than taking the first space, which they did a month of locations at the first round.

[UNKNOWN]: But the first spaceman who you don't know if Toglius is going to have the power, you know, things like that, they've got too many of those guys.

[UNKNOWN]: They need more up the middle athleticists.

[UNKNOWN]: Well, I think also they've drafted a lot of guys who had significant and of those questions have proven out in Pro Bowl questions about their contact rates, their swing decisions, and if you're going to go an opposite direction from that, not that I think they're going to like, whatever we were doing wrong before we have to do the opposite of that.

[UNKNOWN]: but to make better decisions, we should dress some better pure hitters, some guys have better feel for the strike zone.

[UNKNOWN]: There are career, certainly, fits that.

[UNKNOWN]: I think AJ Garcia, also, Afro-Genia, fits that.

[UNKNOWN]: I would imagine a lot of teams probably have him a little bit lower on the board, but just in terms of that profile, I think he fits that as well.

[UNKNOWN]: And then the nationals, pick an 11th overall, first pick now for Paul Toboni, Carlos and his time atop the nationals organization, a lot of success with the Red Sox previously.

[UNKNOWN]: What are you here in the nationals going to do at number 11?

[UNKNOWN]: uh... yet there's had to a lot of hitters for me uh... again i think this is a possibility for for jade grindlinger uh... again i think it's towards the higher end of his market does feel like grindlingers mentioned with almost every team that you would think of as a very model heavy team uh... will continue to mention him with model heavy teams i do think the nationals

[UNKNOWN]: If they haven't been viewed as a model heavy team in the past, they certainly reviewed in that lens now.

[UNKNOWN]: I think this feels like a bit of the floor for Drew Burris in some ways because of that.

[UNKNOWN]: I think other college hitters like Ace Reese start to become more in play here, Chris Hacopian.

[UNKNOWN]: You're going to start to have to deal with more college hitters who have

[UNKNOWN]: flaws or positional questions that you're going to deal with, and some teams might even say, hey, we'd rather take the flaws of an ace resource, Chris Hikopian, because they give a such confidence about what they're going to do.

[UNKNOWN]: Offensively, we'll leave the Derrick Korea, lack of pop, or Tyler Bell, lack of physicality questions to other teams.

[UNKNOWN]: We're happier with what they can do in the batters box.

[UNKNOWN]: So that's one that I've heard as well for the nationals.

[UNKNOWN]: I've not heard a lot of arms for them.

[UNKNOWN]: It would be surprising to me if they did a high-school

[UNKNOWN]: Ajit Gracia is another name that would make a lot of sense here to me fees on the board again.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.

[UNKNOWN]: Ajit Gracia is difficult to get a feel for his range because I do hear him mention with teams this high, the Nationals, the Braves, the A's.

[UNKNOWN]: And then you also hear like some whispers about him potentially sliding, so those are some of the names.

[UNKNOWN]: Could I ask you with that?

[UNKNOWN]: Like to me, he fits that what that, what I interpret that to mean is he's the perfect kind of guy that if you have, if you want someone that you like, that you're maybe a little higher on the most, but that you can also do a little bit of a money saver on as opposed to the other guys you're considering to push money to later on.

[UNKNOWN]: It's logical that a player who's ranged kind of starts at here, but could go into the 20s, should be more open to that idea than someone who, Drew Burris has, like we said, his floor is probably around here, not the 20s.

[UNKNOWN]: Right.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

[UNKNOWN]: Thank that could make a lot of sense.

[UNKNOWN]: I think so.

[UNKNOWN]: With Greenlinger, do you get the sense teams are viewing him more as a hit or now compared to a pitcher?

[UNKNOWN]: I think the teams who draft him are going to like him more because of his hitting ability.

[UNKNOWN]: I would expect whoever drafts him to select him as a two way player.

[UNKNOWN]: I think that the model heavy teams who really value age for hitters and contact rates for hitters are drawn to those two traits in particular.

[UNKNOWN]: There are definitely some teams that I wouldn't think of as model heavy that prefer him as a pitcher that's not to say that like,

[UNKNOWN]: If your model have you definitely do perform as a header and if you're traditional, you definitely do perform as a pitcher.

[UNKNOWN]: I think there's still a healthy mix, but my sense is like the team's highest on him like him more as a hit or even if they're like, hey, we're happy to have the ability to do both.

[UNKNOWN]: And maybe he, I do think he is the type of two-way talent who will at least get an opportunity to try both, to start his career even if he quickly switches to one side or another, which tends to be the case for most of those guys.

[UNKNOWN]: I hope he gets the opportunity if he wants you to be a two-way player in Pearl Ball because this is a I mean 16 just turned 17-year-old player who look there's a lot of guys.

[UNKNOWN]: This would be his normally he would have been a 20-27 right there's a lot of guys who in many cases we think are an infielder and then they end up being a better pitcher going into that summer and then by the end of the cycle we say oh and I'll actually

[UNKNOWN]: And I think look he's I think is a really talented hitter.

[UNKNOWN]: I think he has the ability to go out and become a a big league hitter But also he's a left hand a pitcher who's up to like 95 96 with a really good bragging bowl really good change up the pitch ability is super advanced for his age If I'm a team, I'm not saying oh, we're gonna throw out one of these.

[UNKNOWN]: I'd love to draft him and put him out as a two-way player Especially because he could go out and look if if you like him enough as a hitter

[UNKNOWN]: It's not because all we think he's, you know, this, you know, 70, 80 grade defender in center field.

[UNKNOWN]: You think he's going to hit him.

[UNKNOWN]: That's probably to be a corner outfielder.

[UNKNOWN]: So you have the ability to just de-h him.

[UNKNOWN]: Today is where he's not pitching, but like you said, most teams don't tend to keep, keep, keep guys as two-way players, but I hope he at least gets that.

[UNKNOWN]: for opportunity, if he wants to.

[UNKNOWN]: Angels at 12, they made a little bit of a change, at the top this year.

[UNKNOWN]: Carlos, do you think it's still going to be yet another college player?

[UNKNOWN]: It seems like John Moselex said we're going to take the best player available, which is a pretty mundane quote to give that every team seems to say and angels fan seemed unusually

[UNKNOWN]: Well, I think that probably tells you a little bit about the Angel's strategy, like more than any team, it seems like the Angels have had a directive from ownership to take a specific profile of player.

[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the most egregious example of this is looking like taking Christian more right in front of Connor Griffin when, like, clearly part of the reason you're taking Christian more as you think he's going to be a fast moving college player.

[UNKNOWN]: It was a fast moving college player.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't know that that nets you out with the best draft picks in the world.

[UNKNOWN]: So hopefully that legitimately is what they do.

[UNKNOWN]: Even before this news, I'd written about it in our previous mock drafts.

[UNKNOWN]: I have heard the angels associated with more high school players than we typically do.

[UNKNOWN]: The last few years when they've been super college heavy, I've only heard college college college college.

[UNKNOWN]: This year, that's been different.

[UNKNOWN]: whether or not they go for a high school player still like not super confident like they're definitely taking a high school now and this move confirms it.

[UNKNOWN]: I hope they're just more open to other profiles.

[UNKNOWN]: But I've heard basically every demographic here for the angels, I've heard college pitchers, like Cameron Flooky, like Hunter Deetz, like Lampiterson.

[UNKNOWN]: This is another potential lending spot for Giorgio Rojas who's the high school player I've heard most heavily associated with the angels who would absolutely not be a quick moving sort of profile.

[UNKNOWN]: I've heard

[UNKNOWN]: Baths like Justin LeBron, Baths like Trevor Condon, Ryder Helfrick, AJ Grossia, like I've heard them with so many profiles, and I do think this is the range of the board with that, probably becomes more common for most teams.

[UNKNOWN]: But don't be surprised, I would say, if they do go high school this year.

[UNKNOWN]: Based on everything you just said, I have the least amount of confidence that you're going to get the angels right in your mock draft, right?

[UNKNOWN]: Because we just aimed at about 75 players.

[UNKNOWN]: Yep, this is this is the reality of the mock from here on out.

[UNKNOWN]: I will say I would just know

[UNKNOWN]: It's possible that last year was the start of this trend.

[UNKNOWN]: And like when we look back on it, and I say this partly because here we are, it is July 6th as we're recording this.

[UNKNOWN]: And Tyler Brumner is not a big leager, which kind of basically breaks the mold for the angels as opposed to what they've done.

[UNKNOWN]: And I mean even like Ryan Johnson, where it was like Ryan Johnson, you're straight to the big leagues.

[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you're not ready.

[UNKNOWN]: Okay, well, you know, but,

[UNKNOWN]: This actually, they're, they're draft from last year.

[UNKNOWN]: Looks pretty good right now.

[UNKNOWN]: Chase Shores, Johnny Salinski, CJ Gray, Nate Sneed, like, look, the corsers guys here who haven't been bad yet, but also, I would just note, they're on, I feel like in general, a little bit more of a normal developmental path.

[UNKNOWN]: They're not like guys who are, okay, you signed yesterday, you're in rocket city today, which they were doing for a while there, and it worked out for Zack Neto, and it's kind of the list of that, that may be the end of the list of the guys who was like, yep, that worked out great for them.

[UNKNOWN]: So maybe this is maybe they are like, even now they've obviously added a different decision maker at the top, obviously, as Moezay said, a lot of people involved in these decisions are the same one to were there when he was before he was named the interim, but maybe this is going to be like, hey, all options are open and the concern is not who can be up an hour after they're signed, which would be good.

[UNKNOWN]: What about Cardinals?

[UNKNOWN]: They have the next pick, 13th overall.

[UNKNOWN]: They got a bunch of extra picks in this year's draft to what do you see that doing in terms of their strategy when they're drafted in this year's Carlos?

[UNKNOWN]: Well, I think that the Cardinals have been maybe tied to as many high school players as any team.

[UNKNOWN]: in this year's mock draft process in part because they do have all those picks.

[UNKNOWN]: Basically, any tools, the high-up side, exciting high school hitter gets associated to the cardinals, whether that's because like, they feel the need to scout all those players because they have so many picks.

[UNKNOWN]: Like, they're just in play for basically every demographic outside of our top six players in the class, so maybe it's just because like, hey, the cardinals have kind of had to go out and do the work because they have so many picks here.

[UNKNOWN]: They have a really large bonus pool, a bigger bonus pool than you need to see him picking in front of them going up to the Pirates at five for this pick in particular.

[UNKNOWN]: I've heard nothing but hitters.

[UNKNOWN]: If it was a pitcher here, I would be surprised just based on how much I've heard hitting for them at 13 overall.

[UNKNOWN]: I think

[UNKNOWN]: like Derek Curiel serves to become a real favorite for this pick.

[UNKNOWN]: If he's still on the board, Ryder Helferick is a player I've heard associated with them pretty consistently.

[UNKNOWN]: I think both the top high school players, high school hitters in the class that we expect to be in play in this range, Trevor Condon, and Jared Rindler could make a lot of sense.

[UNKNOWN]: Ace Rees and Chris Ecopian, Age of Grossia could also make sense.

[UNKNOWN]: I get split feedback and a split gut feel as to whether or not

[UNKNOWN]: They would be interested in Justin LeBron.

[UNKNOWN]: I personally don't see it with Justin LeBron.

[UNKNOWN]: I feel like they would be a team who's not likely to take that risk on his hitting ability.

[UNKNOWN]: They seem like a team that really covets and prizes command of the zone for their hitters historically, but I have heard them associated with him.

[UNKNOWN]: So that one's kind of confusing to me, but yeah, I think if you want to dive into any of those, we can, but that's kind of what I'm hearing.

[UNKNOWN]: does it seem like the high school guys would be especially appealing to them with some of their not maybe their first type but especially those extra picks that they have coming up after that.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think so.

[UNKNOWN]: I mean, one player in particular, I've heard them really associated with this Luke Williams who is a massive toolshade, great athlete, great runner,

[UNKNOWN]: and then there's real hit risk with him, actually another player that I've heard that has real hit risk who could be a fit for one of their later picks.

[UNKNOWN]: It's not a high school player, but it's a Ben Badler favorite.

[UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't be surprised if Miles Bailey wound up being a St. Louis Cardinal based on some chatter that I've heard as well.

[UNKNOWN]: I think Keon Johnson is another high school hitter that could be a fit for them.

[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I'm very excited to see what the Cardinal

[UNKNOWN]: A lot of off-the-board picks, I feel like for me to not really like their draft class once we're done.

[UNKNOWN]: What about the Marlins pick right after them?

[UNKNOWN]: What's the latest buzz that you're hearing on what Miami is going to do this year?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, this is also a very hit or heavy range.

[UNKNOWN]: I've heard the msosa with a lot of the hitters that the Cardinals are associated with their career yell again.

[UNKNOWN]: Like this, because they are associated so much with the Cardinals in Marlins, this feels like something of a floor for their career yell to the extent that we can put floors on players in the draft at this range.

[UNKNOWN]: Ace Reese, Tyler Bell, Ryder Helfrick, all could make a lot of sense.

[UNKNOWN]: AJ Grossia, and Sawyer's Trostnider, I've both heard mentioned.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, don't hear a lot of arms specifically with this pick.

[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure if there's a bat.

[UNKNOWN]: I've not mentioned.

[UNKNOWN]: I would think Curry or Condon injured grindling or both also options here.

[UNKNOWN]: Seems like a lot of hitters also who are ranked a lot higher than made out a lot higher.

[UNKNOWN]: But higher than where the marlins are picking this year.

[UNKNOWN]: Yes, but one of those, somebody is going to fall into their lap and the marlins will be coming on.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I feel like for

[UNKNOWN]: since the Orioles, like I've been listening a lot of the same names, so I maybe this gives you a sense for the group, and we expect them to go somewhere in this order, but yeah, and this is also, I would say, like the challenge of the mock draft at this stage in general and for this draft is, the teams themselves have very large groups of names.

[UNKNOWN]: And so it's difficult to figure out,

[UNKNOWN]: like who their priority is or he even who they think is going to be available to them.

[UNKNOWN]: And we're solidly in that mix here that one of the themes of this year's draft for people maybe who are just jumping into this pod to get ready before the draft is like the separation from

[UNKNOWN]: Number 10 or so, it's a number 40 in this class.

[UNKNOWN]: It's much more muddled than the typical draft to the extent that many teams have told us they're more excited to be picking a little bit later with multiple picks than to have some of the separation that comes from picking at the top of that range, but not until much later, because it's very difficult to have the conviction like JJ was talking about at the top of the show of who is actually the best talent.

[UNKNOWN]: So no, we haven't mentioned a lot of arms yet, right?

[UNKNOWN]: Like, especially college arms.

[UNKNOWN]: We've mentioned Jackson Floor will be long on by this range.

[UNKNOWN]: But it does seem like if you're picking

[UNKNOWN]: Top 15 doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of college arms there be going off the board super early.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I would expect the top 20 to be very hit or heavy.

[UNKNOWN]: I mean last year was pretty hit or heavy.

[UNKNOWN]: I think I say that we have a lot of good college pitchers the top of the class last year.

[UNKNOWN]: The college pitching demographic as a whole I don't think performed as teams expected.

[UNKNOWN]: Two of our top three college pitchers entering the year didn't have seasons teams wanted to see it was kind of like Jackson floor was the only guy who went out and improved.

[UNKNOWN]: I do think their guys like Mason Edwards, Taylor Ray, Pundra Deetz, maybe the first two that I mentioned could sneak into this range, T-Concunes and I do think both camera flookie and Liam Peterson have landing spots in the.

[UNKNOWN]: 10 to early 20s range, but they definitely start to pick up more steam and like the later teens.

[UNKNOWN]: And then Gioro Ross is like the only high school name that gets mentioned in the top 15.

[UNKNOWN]: All right.

[UNKNOWN]: The Diamondbacks pick.

[UNKNOWN]: After them, they have the 15th overall pick.

[UNKNOWN]: They also pick again at 31 overall Carlos.

[UNKNOWN]: What do you think happens this year with the Diamondbacks?

[UNKNOWN]: Are they taking another?

[UNKNOWN]: No, they're a little left-handed contact bat.

[UNKNOWN]: What do you what do you see in them?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because of their their willingness or excitement about taking these left-handed hitting smaller high school hitters with contact skills.

[UNKNOWN]: I feel like it's impossible to rule out Trevor Condon.

[UNKNOWN]: He would fit that profile to a T. I think Jared Grandlinger doesn't like feel like the same as those guys, but he has some of the similar strengths.

[UNKNOWN]: Chris Acopian.

[UNKNOWN]: has great contact skills, maybe the best contact skills in the college class, unless you're going a little bit further off the board for like a journey of vinculotype, say, and I don't hear his name quite this high, Ejigracia, so your Stroke Snyder, Justin Lebron, Liam Peterson, I've heard the Diamondbacks tied to a lot of high school pitchers.

[UNKNOWN]: I think that's probably more likely to be for their next pick at 31 than it is for 15, although I do think if Geo Rojas made it to this range, they would be a team that I think would, would maybe kick the tires on that.

[UNKNOWN]: You know, the Diamondbacks, their last, their most recent top overall picture you've been case in Cunningham and Slate called, well.

[UNKNOWN]: uh... high school shortstop high school outfield there uh... they took you know that they took a riot walchmet college outfield there right after called well a couple picks later uh... and then tomi trolley drew jones before that it does seem like they are a team that is uh... you know maybe they're maybe the right opportunity comes up somebody falls to them and they do audible to uh... maybe not audibles right wherever they do go with the college pitching out but it does seem like their tendency has been

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you've got to go back basically, if you say from 2015 on two pictures with the first pick, this is 2015.

[UNKNOWN]: So, past performance does not guarantee future results, but it does offer indications.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and I think if you're looking at, like, Caldwell hasn't quite paned out, but if you're looking at, like a case in Cunningham who's done extremely well, yeah, I agree with that, with that high contact, bad.

[UNKNOWN]: I think Jared Grindlinger fits that mold.

[UNKNOWN]: If he's available, I think I-

[UNKNOWN]: probably too soon for Eden Ruiz, but just in terms of other high contact hitters, somebody like that would certainly fit that description as well, and they have enshied away from smaller players like a cunning ham or slate called Will.

[UNKNOWN]: Before, I don't expect him to go that high, but

[UNKNOWN]: He is somebody who at least fits into that type of player.

[UNKNOWN]: How about Texas Rangers?

[UNKNOWN]: They're picking 16th this year, certainly, in an organization that could use a little bit of a boost right now.

[UNKNOWN]: What do you expect in the Rangers to do?

[UNKNOWN]: The Rangers are maybe one of the most interesting teams for me in this range because I have heard them associated with almost exclusively high-risk high-reward profiles, so college players like Justin LeBron, so your Stroke Snyder.

[UNKNOWN]: Liam Peterson.

[UNKNOWN]: This also felt like I'm not sure if it still is given some of the news that we heard about and confirmed on the podcast, but Brody B. Miele, who was one of the more outlier talents in risk.

[UNKNOWN]: profiles in this class felt like that's where his traction may be started, but we did hear that he has UCL injury a second one.

[UNKNOWN]: So we'll have more on that on base one, America.com.

[UNKNOWN]: If you somehow haven't heard of it by the time you're here in this podcast, but he does have another injury.

[UNKNOWN]: I think that's going to really complicate his draft status, but I just think it's interesting that Texas has tied to so many of these profiles that I perceive as high-risk

[UNKNOWN]: whether or not that's an indication of like they want to take a big swing here.

[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure but I've heard them associated with like every demographic in this range and the the LeBron one is interesting because he's another one where like I feel I hear conflicting feedback about whether or not he's a realistic option for here.

[UNKNOWN]: This feels like maybe a bit of a floor for Tyler Bell if he's still in the board.

[UNKNOWN]: At this pick he makes a lot of sense and that's also interesting

[UNKNOWN]: high risk higher word profile in my mind he feels like a very safe well-rounded college player that doesn't maybe have the same ceiling um... to those are some of the names for you're gonna could i ask like when we were talking not that many weeks ago about Tyler Bell being like a surprise name at the very pretty pretty high up at the very top of the draft

[UNKNOWN]: Does he feel like he's like we talk about Justin LeBron have a wide range?

[UNKNOWN]: Does Tyler Bell also have a pretty wide range of up potential outcomes?

[UNKNOWN]: I don't think so.

[UNKNOWN]: I...

[UNKNOWN]: He gets kind of mentioned as like a, because the rays were excited about him in high school.

[UNKNOWN]: What if he's like a dark horse option?

[UNKNOWN]: I don't really buy that one for their first pick.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't hear his name pick up a ton of steam until about seven or eight or so.

[UNKNOWN]: And then it sounds like he's off the board by 16.

[UNKNOWN]: So like, relative to some of these other players, I actually feel like his range feels more like Derek Curie-Elish.

[UNKNOWN]: Whereas Justin LeBron, I could seem going five, I could seem sliding into the early 20s.

[UNKNOWN]: So maybe it's not like that much larger of a range, and I think probably- That's still a big difference.

[UNKNOWN]: Probably realistically, all of these players have bigger ranges than we think, just because it's hard to see what happens with the board, but yeah.

[UNKNOWN]: Justin LeBron feels like he would fit in on that, I don't know what year it was, but probably like 2013, 2014, Hickory team that the Rangers had with Louis Brinson and No Marbazara and Jorge Alfaro and all these like really two-way Gallo.

[UNKNOWN]: Joey Gallo, yeah, all these really tooled up guys with a lot of hit risk on them.

[UNKNOWN]: That was a lot of fun to follow.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how much shit.

[UNKNOWN]: But the Astros pick next, they pick 17th overall, then they also have the 28th overall pick.

[UNKNOWN]: This year, what are the, I mean, are we starting to maybe hear a little bit more pitching here?

[UNKNOWN]: Or is this another organization where you're leaning, you're hearing that maybe more bats are still coming?

[UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't be surprised if they took an arm.

[UNKNOWN]: I think guys like Liam Peterson, maybe Mason Edwards, those could be potential fits in this range, both on talent, just giving some of the pictures they'd taken.

[UNKNOWN]: In the past, I've heard college outfouters like Zion Rose.

[UNKNOWN]: He could make sense.

[UNKNOWN]: We haven't mentioned his name much at all in this podcast, but I do think he could fit in this sort of range.

[UNKNOWN]: Maybe in a little bit higher, Logan Hughes.

[UNKNOWN]: I've heard mentioned for them.

[UNKNOWN]: Feels like it could be a little bit higher for this pick in particular.

[UNKNOWN]: both Lawrence on the high school hitting side.

[UNKNOWN]: I think his name will start to be in play around this pick and on the next ten or so.

[UNKNOWN]: So I think really for both of the Astros first picks, he could make sense.

[UNKNOWN]: They pick at 27 and then they pick at 28.

[UNKNOWN]: So those are some of the names.

[UNKNOWN]: If Justin again, if Justin LeBron is still here, I would start to wonder like, okay, is this around his floor, late teens, um,

[UNKNOWN]: This is another team that gets mentioned for him.

[UNKNOWN]: And I think the fact that somebody seems our mentioned for him, maybe does speak to how white his ranges.

[UNKNOWN]: It seems like a lot of teams also looking at him just saying, wait, should we?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think on this, we weren't expecting too early.

[UNKNOWN]: I think that's exactly it.

[UNKNOWN]: It's like, hey, we entered the year thinking no chance we're picking the late teams.

[UNKNOWN]: Justin LeBron is like a top five talent in the class.

[UNKNOWN]: We're not going to have a chance at him.

[UNKNOWN]: And then very quickly, when he started his struggle, it seems like, okay, we better go do some work.

[UNKNOWN]: He might slide a little bit further.

[UNKNOWN]: And then I think it's definitely a case of like, you're going to have scouts.

[UNKNOWN]: in your department who are pounding the table for this guy because they love the tools and athleticism.

[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure you're going to have analysts who are like terrified of it because of his track record of hitting a conference.

[UNKNOWN]: So I imagine Justin O'Bron has given or at least I hope because I've been given a lot of headaches from trying to figure out Justin O'Bron.

[UNKNOWN]: I hope teams have had to deal with that as well.

[UNKNOWN]: It's only fair.

[UNKNOWN]: All right.

[UNKNOWN]: Well, then the reds pick next.

[UNKNOWN]: They pick 18th overall.

[UNKNOWN]: Carlos, what's the kind of the buzz around this pick for the reds?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I've heard a lot of left-handed pictures in particular, both high school and college.

[UNKNOWN]: All right, that's different than what you've been saying of for every other team so far.

[UNKNOWN]: Right, yeah, sorry.

[UNKNOWN]: Sorry.

[UNKNOWN]: I'll create a little more interest here for the Reds.

[UNKNOWN]: Left-handed pitching, so I think guys like Mason Edwards, to your roadhouse, if he's here, Logan Schmidt.

[UNKNOWN]: Hunter Deetz is a name I've heard mentioned.

[UNKNOWN]: College hitters, like so your Stroke Snyder.

[UNKNOWN]: I'm unsure of would make a lot of sense on talent here.

[UNKNOWN]: Trevor Condon maybe is like the most heavily linked player in this range.

[UNKNOWN]: This also feels like something of a midpoint for Trevor Condon's market or like the likely range for him to go.

[UNKNOWN]: I have heard the Razor be a team that's like intrigued by Justin LeBron if he's still available.

[UNKNOWN]: But the Mason Edwards one is interesting.

[UNKNOWN]: And I mentioned this in our recent mock draft on the site.

[UNKNOWN]: I've heard him comp to Andrew Abbott, and obviously the reds had a nice outcome by taking Andrew Abbott.

[UNKNOWN]: So if they've used some similarities there, and he's actually in the board here, that one could be pretty interesting.

[UNKNOWN]: This also feels like, I don't know if it's actually the floor, but it feels like it should be the floor for like a writer helper, if he's somehow still around.

[UNKNOWN]: JJ, you've covered the reds farm system for a lot of years for us.

[UNKNOWN]: There are... Everyone's retired from the first team and I mean, well retired from the first, Reds listed it.

[UNKNOWN]: All right, well, let you say that and not me, which based on your deep history, then, of having covered the reds, does that all sound right to you?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the thing I will say with them is they've kind of sneakily...

[UNKNOWN]: done a good job of drafting this decade after doing a really poor job the previous decade.

[UNKNOWN]: Chase Burns is obviously a W at this point, like you want them to stay healthy and keep doing it.

[UNKNOWN]: He's been one of the better pictures in the National League, starting pictures in the National League.

[UNKNOWN]: So far this year, but you know, you obviously throw a south steward in there, you throw a red louder, they've had some guys kind of, you know, even Matt McClain, you know, gives you value, like as a guy who was a 2021 first rounder.

[UNKNOWN]: So they actually have kind of had a, they've had some really bad luck injury luck with, if I'm them, I would run screening from,

[UNKNOWN]: SEC pictures, especially second tier SEC arms, the typhloids, hunter-holens, they've a lot of those guys get hurt.

[UNKNOWN]: Well, they've been tied to Brody B. Melee, JJ, so how does that make you feel?

[UNKNOWN]: I was going to say, like Brody B. Melee, if you've had your second elbow injury,

[UNKNOWN]: on your elbow before you get out of high school, that's not a great demographic risk question.

[UNKNOWN]: That's a tough one.

[UNKNOWN]: Another picture who has some injury history I've heard them link to is Carson Bulamon, whether that's for this pick or their next pick.

[UNKNOWN]: So I think he's in the mix as well.

[UNKNOWN]: You hear a lot of lefties with the reds in general, with the teams I've mentioned for them.

[UNKNOWN]: I think there's a couple of their players.

[UNKNOWN]: I want to mention here as well.

[UNKNOWN]: I mentioned, okay, cadence to rail would be another name.

[UNKNOWN]: I'll just link to them here.

[UNKNOWN]: we can move on there.

[UNKNOWN]: The guardians pick after them, 19th overall.

[UNKNOWN]: They threw a little bit of an audible to us last year.

[UNKNOWN]: They picked J. Slavio let, who is a very unguardian's type of pick based on their recent track record, based on how J. Slavio let is doing this year.

[UNKNOWN]: Do you think they will go back to the more...

[UNKNOWN]: Contact, not contact oriented, but guys who do not have the same kind of contact questions that Jason Lovelett.

[UNKNOWN]: Well, Carlos.

[UNKNOWN]: You know, I think Sawyer Strow Snyder shares some of the pros and cons of a Jason Lovelett profile.

[UNKNOWN]: I think Strow Snyder is a better athlete, but that is a player who offers more power than is typically associated.

[UNKNOWN]: with the guardians and more hit risk than they are typically willing to take and I have heard them connected to him.

[UNKNOWN]: I've also heard them connected to Jared Grindlinger who's like the model darling favorite who is that super young left-handed hitting contact oriented player.

[UNKNOWN]: I've heard them tied to Logan Schmidt left in a picture where I think his his market really heats up right around this range.

[UNKNOWN]: We haven't mentioned him quite as much as been all geofrohaus but I think

[UNKNOWN]: Especially after this Bumila news, I think Logan Schmidt should probably be the favorite to be the second left-hand high-school pitcher off the board I think Zion Rose makes a lot of sense for the Guardians with what they've done historically if they're not committed to just taking a lot more power I think some sleeper picks here could be Connor Como who's young for the class and hits a lot.

[UNKNOWN]: I think Linda Tome makes a lot of sense

[UNKNOWN]: I think James Clark could make a lot of sense on the college side.

[UNKNOWN]: I think Ty Head could make a lot of sense.

[UNKNOWN]: I think Owen Hull could make a lot of sense.

[UNKNOWN]: And Ty Head, I also say, is like, maybe a sleeper pick for the reds as well, who I feel to mention there, but those are a lot of names who feel like they could be Cleveland Guardian.

[UNKNOWN]: Ish.

[UNKNOWN]: But again, I'm very curious to see if they're going to double down and just like more power, because that's just not a trait they seem to have slept from the draft until last year.

[UNKNOWN]: A lot of the names you rattled off are a left-handed bats and I mean even Laviolet right him right Bazana Ralphie Velasquez chased a lot of left-handed hitters Yeah, true only are mentioned who's not a Zion Rose, which is why I like I don't tend to think of him but I have heard him connect there But yeah, they they like lefties maybe more than any team in the game and I think they're big league lineup is maybe more left-handed than anyone

[UNKNOWN]: I've written about this, they are like two standard deviations beyond anyone else as far as their amount of switch hitters and lefty.

[UNKNOWN]: They're okay with a switch hitter.

[UNKNOWN]: They just don't want you to bet right hand that they're exclusively.

[UNKNOWN]: They are averse to those players and seems like almost.

[UNKNOWN]: I won't point out by the way, they also took Nolan Shubart and I was one of one, but like last year they were like, hey, we want to get some power into this work, so we're going to add some power and I would say both of those have had little troubles at times, they've had some ups and downs, but there is power there and there's also some sleeping mess.

[UNKNOWN]: The Red Sox, the Boston Red Sox, pick 20th overall, this year.

[UNKNOWN]: Carlos, not going the season has so far.

[UNKNOWN]: As Red Sox fans have been hoping, this year what's coming in the draft.

[UNKNOWN]: That's gonna give them reason to smile.

[UNKNOWN]: Well, if Jared Grandlingers on the board, I would be really surprised if he lasted much longer than this.

[UNKNOWN]: We've mentioned him kind of throughout the 10 to 20 to range.

[UNKNOWN]: This feels like a bit of a floor for him.

[UNKNOWN]: If he doesn't go here or to the guardians, I'd be mildly surprised as surprises.

[UNKNOWN]: You can really be for calling your shots in a mock this deep.

[UNKNOWN]: I think the same is true of Ajay Grasia.

[UNKNOWN]: And like if Ajay Grasia got here and he feeds on off the board, that would be a little surprising to me as well.

[UNKNOWN]: I've heard them on high school hitters.

[UNKNOWN]: Some of these split campy high school hitters who have high potential landing spots, like a boat loan rants in a Taj march and who not every team is on, but enough teams like them in this back half of the first round range that they should go.

[UNKNOWN]: I've heard them with a lot of power oriented arms as well.

[UNKNOWN]: I've not heard them with Liam Peterson specifically, but I have heard them with Hunter Deetz.

[UNKNOWN]: I have heard them with Cole Carloan.

[UNKNOWN]: They seem to like like power, fastball stuff, big breaking balls so any picture on the board in this range that fits those categories I think can make sense I also think just given how we expect the board to go after this red socks pick and maybe at this red socks pick We could see a run of college arms maybe with the exception of the podries and tigers were picking right behind the red socks.

[UNKNOWN]: They're very high school oriented clubs

[UNKNOWN]: It also seems like the last few years the red socks have drafted somebody who we had ranked higher than where they actually ended up going somebody who we thought maybe would go earlier in the draft and ended up

[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if maybe I may be falling, but getting to them that, hey, maybe we didn't expect to them to be here based on where we had them ranked before, right?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

[UNKNOWN]: So, that's what you're saying.

[UNKNOWN]: Well, last year, it was Kyson Wither Spoon, the year before that.

[UNKNOWN]: It was Pradeum Montgomery, and Montgomery had been heard, so maybe that played a factor into it, the year before they drafted Kyle Teele.

[UNKNOWN]: Is there somebody I guess or either you guys is there somebody where I don't know I guess we found the just I'm not your landing spot Ben.

[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure how you can predict a surprise like by definition It will surprise you, but are are there guys who are candidates other than LeBron obviously who

[UNKNOWN]: Could be ranked top 10, top 12, or you're like, oh, we didn't think this guy was gonna be available and he ends up getting to the red zone.

[UNKNOWN]: So, too, I'm looking at a Chrissa Copian in ace Reese.

[UNKNOWN]: We've got them ranked 11 and 12.

[UNKNOWN]: We've said enough other players and I haven't heard like teams who have them at the very top of the board to where if it goes a certain way, I could see both those bats being available.

[UNKNOWN]: And if you're the red zone, maybe like, hey, like Chrissa Copian, maybe the best hit power combination in the class.

[UNKNOWN]: overall, like if you wanted to make the case you could in an ace race, who maybe has the most like present game power of any of the players that we're talking about, like his ability to barrel the baseball at ideal angles.

[UNKNOWN]: Those would be two interesting ones.

[UNKNOWN]: So your Strow Snyder, I think it's more likely that he actually does get into the 20s, so it would be less of a surprise, just given his kind of stock as we go down the stretch.

[UNKNOWN]: Those are two for me.

[UNKNOWN]: How about you, JJ, and you jump out to you?

[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I kind of think in this range, like it's getting kind of, this is where I get's really tough for me because I don't envy your job, right?

[UNKNOWN]: And what I would say about that is I don't envy your job because at this point, you've touched on this, but like I feel like if you asked me right now, said, okay, you get to have picks 20 through 25

[UNKNOWN]: and you give me picks 35 through 40.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't need much odds to feel like that my picks could end up being better than you did.

[UNKNOWN]: Not my picks, but the picks have 35 to 40 in up being pretty similar to 20 to 25.

[UNKNOWN]: It shouldn't work that way.

[UNKNOWN]: It should have a stair step down, but we keep talking about.

[UNKNOWN]: This is a class where I feel like the flaws of the players you're talking about here, the concerns aren't that different from the concerns of the guys who were talking about

[UNKNOWN]: in the 30s to 40s and maybe even the start of the 50s.

[UNKNOWN]: And that's where I'll have a real trouble with this, is like, there's not a lot of guys in this range that I really like for this range.

[UNKNOWN]: I would may like them.

[UNKNOWN]: But when you mentioned some of these names, the high school arms, the high school bats, who are likely to go in that 30 to 40 range, some of the college guys who are exposed to expected to go in the 30, 40, 50 range.

[UNKNOWN]: I, you know, if you told me that one of those second or third tier catchers ended up being as good as these guys were talking about here, I don't know which one, maybe it's Jack Natalie, maybe it's, you know, not Natalia, I should say, maybe it's Daniel Jackson, maybe it's Carson Tinney, but I believe that one of them very well could if you told me that,

[UNKNOWN]: Owen Hall, who's not going to hear his name called for quite a while here, but his hitting ability means that he ends up being a better kind of center field college-out center field type.

[UNKNOWN]: In the guys we're talking about this range.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's crazy because there's just, it does feel like this is the range where the separation gets really narrow.

[UNKNOWN]: We have the Padres, pickin' next 21st over all, and Carlos, the Padres have not taken a college player with their first pick since 1973, or they're about to leave.

[UNKNOWN]: which and they certainly like their lefties cruise school craft last year cash may field a lot of big physical players as well.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to hear any college names here.

[UNKNOWN]: I assume so what is it going to be Logan Schmidt with a left hander from California, which is it going to be Coleman Borthwake, big physical arm from Florida, who which tell me which

[UNKNOWN]: They're taken.

[UNKNOWN]: Well, you kind of did a great job.

[UNKNOWN]: It's a great summary of their pick, but I think you could take that and run with it and you'd be good to go.

[UNKNOWN]: I do think Schmidt and Borthwick make a lot of sense.

[UNKNOWN]: I think any of the high top high school players on the board, like this because of the Padre's tendencies and track record, it does feel like both Jared Grindlinger, Trevor Connett, if they're on the board here, like their real risk to go, both Low Rands makes a lot of sense for the Padre's, they've heard them connected with him in particular and on talent.

[UNKNOWN]: In this range, Brody Bee Mealy was mocked to the pod rays and speculated for the pod rays by basically everybody in the industry for the entirety of the spring.

[UNKNOWN]: Whether or not the news of his recent injury takes him out of this conversation wouldn't surprise me if it did.

[UNKNOWN]: Any of the high school pitchers on the board make a lot of sense.

[UNKNOWN]: I think you could also start thinking about

[UNKNOWN]: high school short stops we have ranked further down the board guys like Tyler Spangler Aden Rees could make a lot of sense.

[UNKNOWN]: I think players like uh, land and tow make it make a lot of sense.

[UNKNOWN]: I think players like archer horn could make some sense.

[UNKNOWN]: I haven't heard James Clark.

[UNKNOWN]: In particular with the pod rays, but he's kind of in that same tier of players, I think there's some reasons why wouldn't wouldn't think James Clark for them.

[UNKNOWN]: For the pod rays, like speculatively, I wonder why they wouldn't be a fit for players like Justin LeBron and Soyuz Stroh Snyder.

[UNKNOWN]: They are college players, yes, but they fit the sort of like high upside tools and athleticism profile the pod rays seem to target.

[UNKNOWN]: And so while those players will be unlikely to be, the name I have for them in the final mock.

[UNKNOWN]: I do kind of always wonder like, why wouldn't they be a good exit point for either of them if they got there, just given their tendencies overall, if you just strip out like the pure demographic?

[UNKNOWN]: Because in some ways, LeBron and Stroh Snyder feel to me more like high school profile players.

[UNKNOWN]: Carlos is talking crazy, right?

[UNKNOWN]: JJ?

[UNKNOWN]: It's got to be high school player, right?

[UNKNOWN]: Well, I will say with the Padres, the other thing about the Padres is the Padres also are one that is there a team that is very happy to take a guy here to save money to take a guy later, so

[UNKNOWN]: The podries that feel like our team that often the first pick they have is not the guy who gets the largest bonus in their class.

[UNKNOWN]: So if you heard something like that, it would probably to meet mean they've got something cooking later on because I always go back to Hudson Posts getting a million in a class where like I think that was the James Wood class and like James Wood went later, but James Wood got a lot bigger bonus than him.

[UNKNOWN]: They've done that, I believe, like a number of times.

[UNKNOWN]: So they're also like, if they take someone here, it may be because they've got someone else down the road.

[UNKNOWN]: Oh, Jens, I heard you're born here as well.

[UNKNOWN]: I think that's a good one.

[UNKNOWN]: I think Mike's a lot of sense.

[UNKNOWN]: He's big enough.

[UNKNOWN]: I think six foot seven right hand a pitch for the first time.

[UNKNOWN]: I would be satisfied if I had forgotten to mention Jens and Hirsch Gorn, I think that's a real possibility for the podries.

[UNKNOWN]: I like that you mentioned Tyler Spangler to, for the first time, I think on talent he fits here, I think actually thing on talent he fits even higher and he's, that the podgeries are not afraid to say, hey, we like this guy more than...

[UNKNOWN]: other teams or more willing to take on risk than other teams and Tyler Spangler basically didn't play this year.

[UNKNOWN]: But before that he was right up there right behind or maybe right behind Grady Emerson or right alongside Jacob Lumbar in that conversation for the next best.

[UNKNOWN]: high school player in the class six foot three left-handed and short-stop really smooth swing just good actions at the plate.

[UNKNOWN]: I think in the field too I'm very I'm very intrigued to see what ends up happening with Tyler Spangler.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah he's maybe one of the hardest players in this class to predict just given the lack of playing time he had this spring but I think on talent right there would be been.

[UNKNOWN]: Well, I know that tigers are going to dress some left-handed hitter, because they did that last year with Mike, excuse me, Jordan Yost, and then actually their next pick to Mike Olaveto, Bryce Rainer, Max Clark, Kevin McGonagall, has had some early success so far in his career.

[UNKNOWN]: pitching opening up in this range.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the tigers are honestly becoming a bit like the Pilgrys and Guardians and that they very much have a type that they get associated with frequently and you like that right for the Tiger.

[UNKNOWN]: I love it.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, give me more.

[UNKNOWN]: We need more of those teams and we'll get a hundred percent success right on this mock.

[UNKNOWN]: The tigers are associated with basically every left hand hitting high school player.

[UNKNOWN]: You could think of in this class I also think they are one of the most likely landing spots inside the first round for Asian Ruiz Susan Shortstop out of New York

[UNKNOWN]: We haven't mentioned his name too much, I think this is kind of the high.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it definitely is, but this is one of the earlier teams we here where they didn't rease, who maybe is the best defense player in the class.

[UNKNOWN]: I think other offensive oriented high school players, like a cult pro set, could make some sense here.

[UNKNOWN]: Both Low Rants is mentioned here.

[UNKNOWN]: Again, I mentioned this for the podries, but either of Trevor Conner and Jake Granglinger.

[UNKNOWN]: If either of these players are off the board after the Tigers pick, it would be very surprising to me.

[UNKNOWN]: And then I think you're talking about other players like Toma, Connor Como, but actually

[UNKNOWN]: with the tiger.

[UNKNOWN]: I think I'll just iterate for the tigers here or just just highlight here.

[UNKNOWN]: I think the tigers are one of the teams who like, they don't care at all what the consensus is.

[UNKNOWN]: They're going to take the guy they like and they don't they don't really mind.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't think they're too to worried about like making a risky pick.

[UNKNOWN]: They're going to line up players.

[UNKNOWN]: They're happy to take high school players.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and I would expect a high school bat here probably.

[UNKNOWN]: Is that ring true for you, JJ?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, like, I like how Carlos said it, they're going to take the guys they like and they're good with that, like, I felt like Jordan used his example of that, like they, if they believe in a guy they're going to take them, I would say that also with that, I feel like in general their MO is to take.

[UNKNOWN]: I know that you could argue a couple of these guys, but like generally, I would say that they're like, they prefer guys who can hit the power, the power, the power, yeah, they want back to ball skills.

[UNKNOWN]: And again, like I think you said left handed hitters who can play valuable up the middle position, especially, will take your short stuff.

[UNKNOWN]: I feel like they went, they kind of zigged.

[UNKNOWN]: They were the cult key of the world, like five, six, seven years ago, where it's like

[UNKNOWN]: I felt like there was a time where the Tigers were stacking up.

[UNKNOWN]: The Justin Henry Malois, the cult chiefs, the youngs, the guys who you're like, this guy can hit, we'll figure out where he can play defensively, and they kind of found in a lot of those cases, they couldn't find out where they played offensively, and then they've gone to the guys who, these guys can hit, and we know that they will be valuable somewhere defensively.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, a lot of those names you mentioned, kind of check those boxes, I think, for tigers, where we're, uh, certainly obviously, content.

[UNKNOWN]: If he's still available pro, maybe a little less, although it depends where pro seconds, you know, does he catch?

[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, he's played some short stuff.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that's really a long-term home for him, but yeah,

[UNKNOWN]: hitting bad, none of those guys would surprise me if they ended up going to Detroit.

[UNKNOWN]: But what about the cubs?

[UNKNOWN]: Cubs picking 23rd overall.

[UNKNOWN]: Last year, their first round pick, Ethan Conrad, who big fan of Ethan Conrad, really liked the pick, would love to see him or on the field.

[UNKNOWN]: Then he has been so far, other than Arizona for about three minutes.

[UNKNOWN]: What are you here for the cubs this year?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I've heard them with a lot of college players, college pitchers in particular, actually, for the cause.

[UNKNOWN]: I've heard them associated with pitching on the high school demographic as well, Logan Schmidt in particular.

[UNKNOWN]: I've heard that they've been all over, so I wonder if this is a potential learning spot.

[UNKNOWN]: For him, I've heard them associated with Mason Edwards.

[UNKNOWN]: I think they should be in the mix for basically the entirety of the second tier of college pitching options, which includes

[UNKNOWN]: Teacon Cunes out of Tennessee, which includes Taylor Rae at Old Miss.

[UNKNOWN]: Maybe that includes guys like co-car loan, Hunter Deeds Jack Redell.

[UNKNOWN]: If players like Cameron Flooky and Liam Peterson are still on the board, either of those players I think make a lot of sense.

[UNKNOWN]: As we've gone through this, one thing that stood out to me is, like, potential homes for both fluky and Peterson.

[UNKNOWN]: I could see a scenario where we're one or both of those players get into the 20s and if they do, I think the Cubs and the number of teams in this range and behind will be pretty excited about the talent they're getting.

[UNKNOWN]: We'll be throwing a party.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, relative to expectations preseason.

[UNKNOWN]: would you be excited if you were the coverage agent about getting either Peterson or fluky there or there's is there a reason I think particularly and for me at least particularly in fluky's case where okay yeah it was great last year he got hurt this year it wasn't surgery so that's that's a good thing he did come back but like he didn't come out and then just

[UNKNOWN]: Dominates or you buying low or is this a falling knife that you're catching potentially there's a balance but I think that you do look at it I would in general say if you're getting someone who In both those cases the flaws or the potential flaws that have been exposed are not something where oh We were wrong about this plate like okay to take it to comparison to a guy we talked about a lotness just in the broad, right?

[UNKNOWN]: In Justin LeBron's case, if you take him high or if you take him here and you say we never imagine that he would get to here, you're doing so saying the concern that held us back coming into the season is exactly the same concern that holds us back now, the reason he fell to us, which is he just hasn't hit at the level we expect him to hit.

[UNKNOWN]: In the case of fluke,

[UNKNOWN]: You have to dive into the medical zone all, but you could absolutely say that the reason he fell to us now is not that there's some aspect of what we thought with him was true last year, is not true anymore.

[UNKNOWN]: It's that we never got to see it this year because he had an injury derailed season.

[UNKNOWN]: And so,

[UNKNOWN]: Hey, we're getting a little bit of a bi-low candidate here.

[UNKNOWN]: But not with something that we've discovered a new plot.

[UNKNOWN]: Jay Slavia let last year, we talked about fell to the back of the first ground.

[UNKNOWN]: That was because, hey, we thought his hit tool was here coming into the year.

[UNKNOWN]: actually it's probably more like here.

[UNKNOWN]: So he fell for a flobbing discovered.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if Cam Flooky has a flobbing discovered.

[UNKNOWN]: Liam Peterson you could say is a little bit more to me in that LeBron camp where it's like the same problem that we worry about coming into the year is still the same problem we have now.

[UNKNOWN]: In Flooky's case it's like we just didn't get to see him pitch this year like we did last year.

[UNKNOWN]: That to me is a little bit different, but that may just be my perspective perception.

[UNKNOWN]: The Mariners now pick in 24th overall.

[UNKNOWN]: They've picked all types of guys in recent years.

[UNKNOWN]: Carlos obviously Kate Anderson looks phenomenal right now before that their top picks, Jorangelo, Sancha, called Emerson, Cole Young.

[UNKNOWN]: We've talked a lot about college pitching for some of these teams in recent picks are a lot more so than the top of the board to think that holds true here for Seattle too.

[UNKNOWN]: I think it could.

[UNKNOWN]: I think it could wind up being the case for like just the best players available happen to be college arms because of their run-ups hitters in front of them.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that they're like not into some hitters.

[UNKNOWN]: Some names have heard them associated with their Zion Rose and Taj Martian in particular.

[UNKNOWN]: Like this is maybe one of the more likely landing spots for me for Taj Martian and Antbo Lawrence.

[UNKNOWN]: I think both those players like they start to get a lot of real attention here on the board.

[UNKNOWN]: And then any, I think any of the college pitchers who would get taken here should be excited because the Mariners have been a tremendous pitching factory and pitching development team, Tegan Coons, Liam Peterson, Cameron Flookie, Taylor Rae, all those players make a ton of sense here.

[UNKNOWN]: Trying to see if there are any other names that I've not mentioned yet.

[UNKNOWN]: Maybe it could start to come and play more on the board in this range.

[UNKNOWN]: I do think like,

[UNKNOWN]: college outfielders like Kaden Serrell and Aiden Robbins maybe start to get more in play here guys like Daniel Jackson, Jernet Vinkilla on the college side maybe start to get more tension in this range.

[UNKNOWN]: Jack Radella's another pitcher that all throw out and mention Kate Townsend would be another pitcher that fits in that demographic.

[UNKNOWN]: So if they wanted to continue being open-minded to demographics I think they'll have no shortage of opportunities that makes sense on talent here.

[UNKNOWN]: little Milwaukee Brewers picking at 25.

[UNKNOWN]: They have no shortage of talented prospects in their organization.

[UNKNOWN]: What?

[UNKNOWN]: What do you give the team that has everything?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and it's not like they've knocked it out of the park with all of their first round picks.

[UNKNOWN]: I mean, Andrew Fisher has been good so far.

[UNKNOWN]: I mean, huge power.

[UNKNOWN]: Obviously, with a big strikeout rate, too.

[UNKNOWN]: But he looks really good, braille and pain.

[UNKNOWN]: Not a consensus first rounder.

[UNKNOWN]: He's been another top 100 prospects.

[UNKNOWN]: But, you know, Brock Wilkins before that, Eric Brown, Jr., so a bit of a mixed track or good there, but obviously, there's just a combination of everybody they've drafted throughout the draft, and then obviously, you know, if they've done our right internationally signing guys like Hazes, my day, we'll be paying you, obviously, Jackson, sure it was.

[UNKNOWN]: Since graduate and now Alexander Freyus looks like the next big rising international star for them, but

[UNKNOWN]: What are you here in here for from the walkie Carlos Colp ProSec out of Mississippi is one of the names I've heard most heavily associated with the brewers I also feel like the brewers just generally seem to be a team that is very willing to take these College profiles that slide a bit further than we think so I just wonder are they maybe a hard stopping point for players like Justin Lebron or so your Stroke Snyder

[UNKNOWN]: who maybe teams just get a little bit scared of, and the birds are like, hey, we'll take them, we'll take the tools, we'll take on the risk.

[UNKNOWN]: They did this with Garrett Mitchell.

[UNKNOWN]: They've done this in the past with a number of different kind of profiles.

[UNKNOWN]: They feel you've mentioned it before, they always feel like a more likely team to do bats early and then arms later.

[UNKNOWN]: So it definitely would expect that to remain the case for them.

[UNKNOWN]: And I think they could have options on both the high school and college side here.

[UNKNOWN]: They also seem to be willing to take either of those with their

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's early and then either arms later or just we'll get some arm of the, you know, that some other team doesn't want.

[UNKNOWN]: We'll trade for them and turn them into a monster.

[UNKNOWN]: How about a premium prospect who seems like they just can't figure it out?

[UNKNOWN]: And I think that it'll take us about a minute and a half to figure it out for them and put them in a rotation.

[UNKNOWN]: Kyle Harrison, been pre-ster, we could go to Unlist.

[UNKNOWN]: All right.

[UNKNOWN]: Well, we've gone over the first 25 picks.

[UNKNOWN]: We don't want to leave you guys hanging.

[UNKNOWN]: If you're a fan of the Metz, the Yankees, the Phillies, the Blue Jays or Dodgers.

[UNKNOWN]: So we're going to cover each of these teams top picks starting with the Metz 27 overall.

[UNKNOWN]: They pick Carlos.

[UNKNOWN]: Obviously, when we're getting this deep into the draft,

[UNKNOWN]: It's hard to get a lot of precision on who's going to be the pick for the match, but what kind of intel are you hearing with them?

[UNKNOWN]: The two players I've heard mostly with them, like most strongly with them, are Bolo Rans and Aden Robbins.

[UNKNOWN]: What's interesting about Bolo Rans is I think this makes a lot of sense for him in terms of talent and range of the board.

[UNKNOWN]: Um, but because of like my perception of his asking price, how much of a tough sign he might be, it almost feels more likely for him to go to the meds because they're just going to be other teams picking on either side of this pick.

[UNKNOWN]: We have more money to offer.

[UNKNOWN]: So I wonder if that comes into play on the college side, Aiden Robbins is a name I've heard.

[UNKNOWN]: Um, a lot recently with the Met, so I wonder if he's a fit.

[UNKNOWN]: I think Tegan Cunes could be another potential option as well.

[UNKNOWN]: So those are a few.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you guys get a sense of like what you think the Met's tend to covet.

[UNKNOWN]: They've had some some changes in the front office over the years, certainly the big league team was not performing at the level they'd like.

[UNKNOWN]: So I'm not sure if any of that impacts what you think they might do, but those are some of the names that I've heard of them.

[UNKNOWN]: Okay.

[UNKNOWN]: I'll just throw out one thing that I do feel like we've seen as a recent trend with them is the two-way guy who then they focus on one thing.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

[UNKNOWN]: So the Mitch Voids, the Nolan McLean's, the guys like that.

[UNKNOWN]: Is there somewhere to binge to?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

[UNKNOWN]: Artur Horses on the high school side, Col. Coneger on the high school side, Evan Dempsey at Florida Gulf Coast, those would all be like two way players who,

[UNKNOWN]: Maybe are like more exciting on one side or the other, but those are the top guys who I would expect to actually get here Who makes sense so potentially them?

[UNKNOWN]: I would say with Voight and Carson Bench to you're looking at guys who look at David Stearns was in Milwaukee kind of the same thing guys who make a lot of contact to make good swing decisions.

[UNKNOWN]: So I would expect if they go to the hit or somebody with a high school or college side to kind of fit that mold for them.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, high contact options in this range that I feel like could be available would include Tyler Spangler, Adener Wies, Jiren Edvin Killa.

[UNKNOWN]: whole ProSEC would make some sense.

[UNKNOWN]: Those would be some of the first names of ConeWine, maybe Eric Becker, although I don't hear his name too much in this range.

[UNKNOWN]: The Yankees.

[UNKNOWN]: They have the 35th overall pick, Carlos, what are you?

[UNKNOWN]: What are you expecting from the Yankees?

[UNKNOWN]: Is this your, it seemed like last year they went up and drafted Dax Killby right around this range, right?

[UNKNOWN]: 39, overall higher than, maybe a lot of people were expecting him to go, went out at a great debut.

[UNKNOWN]: Just hasn't really been able to get on the field.

[UNKNOWN]: This year, you know, is there a chance to go kind of, not totally off the board?

[UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't say it was totally off the board, but maybe go a little bit higher than other people.

[UNKNOWN]: go or on a player.

[UNKNOWN]: What are you hearing about them?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I feel like the Yankees for a few years had like we had a really good read on them despite the fact that they're picking so low.

[UNKNOWN]: A couple of the players I've heard them linked to really heavily recently are

[UNKNOWN]: Brody Bimila, again, how does his injury situation change that, not sure, bow low rants?

[UNKNOWN]: Those two have heard associated a lot with him.

[UNKNOWN]: I've heard more high school and high variance profiles, tied to the Yankees, whether or not like that's the direction they decided to go.

[UNKNOWN]: I think would be interesting.

[UNKNOWN]: In this range, we're getting into full speculation territory, I'd say.

[UNKNOWN]: And also, the ability to sign the players you might want

[UNKNOWN]: some other names who could fit Eric Becker I think for later yeah we're starting to get to the rings right I don't I don't feel as confident and maybe that started like 10 takes a go do you think 8 in Ruiz high school short stuff for he's another good one to Europe could be in this mix they've taken you know well whatever Yankees are feeling about them now but like Anthony Volpi they've had a lot of success he feels very has to be Volpiish right

[UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't say that, but I just more mean in terms of like, they've signed a lot of good northeast players, whatever you think of Volpi.

[UNKNOWN]: Now I get it, but like Schlittler Ben Rice, he's been on the Yankees area code team, not that that makes a huge difference, but you know, for the last two years, it would not surprise me, I guess, if they

[UNKNOWN]: ended up with him.

[UNKNOWN]: If he's even available, one doesn't go 10, 15 picks.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

[UNKNOWN]: Maybe even earlier.

[UNKNOWN]: I think that can make a lot of sense too.

[UNKNOWN]: Joe Terole is an aim I've heard mentioned with them, but I think that's for later.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that's for this pig.

[UNKNOWN]: That would be really way off the hour.

[UNKNOWN]: That would be a shocker at this spot.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

[UNKNOWN]: About 36 Philadelphia Phillies.

[UNKNOWN]: Obviously, picking pretty late, hard to narrow it down.

[UNKNOWN]: But what kind of, what kind of names, what types of

[UNKNOWN]: like hitters with big tools and pictures with big stuff and maybe they're more willing to take shots on players who have some hit risk or some misquestions or some control questions that feels to be the sorts of profiles they've taken.

[UNKNOWN]: I have heard them link to a couple of position players who fit those sorts of profiles on the college side, cadence or rel, I think is a player who could be available here who has this really exciting power speed combination, but comes with some misquestions that you're gonna have to tolerate

[UNKNOWN]: on the high school side.

[UNKNOWN]: Again, I'm not sure if it's for this pick or if it's for later, it's hard for me to get a sense of like where Rockham and Escalco is going to go because he's extremely young, he has great physical tools, he's a great defender, short stop, but there are real hit questions with him.

[UNKNOWN]: So those are two players who maybe if you're a Phillies fan and you don't want swing a miss players, you're not happy to hear that, but I think both have like really exciting upside and their names that I've heard for this range.

[UNKNOWN]: about the blue jays, picking few picks later, they pick 39th overall, they don't, I mean, you just look at their top picks like Jojo Parker, Triassavage, Arginnamala, I mean, I think they were fortunate or excited to have Triassavage fall to them that year, but like, you know,

[UNKNOWN]: Tyves of players?

[UNKNOWN]: What do you think they're going to be looking at with this pick?

[UNKNOWN]: I think the BlueJays really like young players.

[UNKNOWN]: I think a lot of the players that they've taken have been young for the last.

[UNKNOWN]: I feel like they're associated with those profiles a lot.

[UNKNOWN]: So whether that's like a Connor Como type on the high school side, I think they could be over a lot of all over a lot of different high school hitters, both Lawrence's and other name.

[UNKNOWN]: Will Adams as a name I've heard for them.

[UNKNOWN]: I think

[UNKNOWN]: Well, Adams is not the name we're going to hear much in this top 40-ish range, but like second to third round, I think he's a hitter who could make a lot of sense.

[UNKNOWN]: Let's see, who does I have them mock to previously?

[UNKNOWN]: Archer Horn, I think, can make some sense in this range.

[UNKNOWN]: I feel like more specifically, that be as a position player?

[UNKNOWN]: I think he has real upside on both, so I think he would be selected as a two-way player.

[UNKNOWN]: I think, or Archer Horn, James Clark, could be another name.

[UNKNOWN]: I would mention for the Blue Jays that can make sense in this range.

[UNKNOWN]: Those are two high school players, lined at Tome, is another name who can make some sense.

[UNKNOWN]: These guys seem to fit.

[UNKNOWN]: I know that Arjuna Mala and Jojo Parker are kind of very different kind of players, but I feel like those players both fit.

[UNKNOWN]: If you say that they do like their prep short stops who can hit, these guys all fit within that continuum.

[UNKNOWN]: Right, so those would be some prep short stops who can hit and we'll figure out if their short stops or second they spin or outfielders and that's somewhat down the road.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Taj Marchand is around, I think Toronto might be a team on him, but he could be off the board.

[UNKNOWN]: All right.

[UNKNOWN]: We will finish with the Dodgers picking 40th overall.

[UNKNOWN]: Are they going to, I know, no, there are no, a lot of help in the outfield right now.

[UNKNOWN]: Carlos, they got just sad.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like, surrounded to Paula, Kintaro, Hope, like Kendall George is just like another guy in that mix for them.

[UNKNOWN]: What do you, what are you thinking they're going to go this year?

[UNKNOWN]: They're probably going to take a player who 15 teams in front of them wish they took like a year from now.

[UNKNOWN]: It seems to be what the Dodgers do every year.

[UNKNOWN]: I've heard them connect to a lot of different profiles, James Clark, Eric Becker, Aden Ruiz, Bola Rants, Cadence Rell, Colp ProSec, I don't feel like the Dodgers have a particular type.

[UNKNOWN]: They seem willing to go to a bunch of different demographics.

[UNKNOWN]: They seem willing to take risk on athletes at times other times they go for these like more college performer types.

[UNKNOWN]: the dodges you can't pin down to a specific demographic, but those are some of the names I hear associated with them.

[UNKNOWN]: Let me just make sure I'm not missing over any.

[UNKNOWN]: No, I think those are some.

[UNKNOWN]: I would be really interested with them in Eric Becker because I have talked to some scouts who like specifically were like, hey, it would be so annoying for the Dodgers to get Eric Becker because you know they would turn him into a player that like was the guy who everyone had inside the

[UNKNOWN]: Um, and I would be curious like what they're able to get out of him.

[UNKNOWN]: Um, could, can I just add to this kind of your point that you're making here?

[UNKNOWN]: So the Dodgers in 2021 had one pick in the top 100 picks, right?

[UNKNOWN]: Then Maddox Bruns has not turned out so far.

[UNKNOWN]: But so what did they do?

[UNKNOWN]: They got Emmett, she had Bing, Conspirious, and Justin Roblesky, all of them with picks that were after pick 150.

[UNKNOWN]: And you're like, okay.

[UNKNOWN]: It's good.

[UNKNOWN]: Well done.

[UNKNOWN]: You did that.

[UNKNOWN]: Okay.

[UNKNOWN]: So the next year, they had one pick in the top hundred again, pick 40.

[UNKNOWN]: They got Dalton rushing there and they got Alex Freeland, it picked 105.

[UNKNOWN]: So then you say, okay, the next year, they've had, they didn't have three picks in top under that year.

[UNKNOWN]: That one does not look as Kendall George.

[UNKNOWN]: You just mentioned was pick 36.

[UNKNOWN]: But I will say that draft does not have the slew of guys.

[UNKNOWN]: You're like, oh, that guy's already a stud.

[UNKNOWN]: But then they got Chase Harlan at pic 98, which was one of their only two picks in the top hundred the year after that.

[UNKNOWN]: He's kind of a fringe of the he's not 100, but he's not that far off.

[UNKNOWN]: Then Zach Rude at 40 and Charles Davel on at 41.

[UNKNOWN]: Davel on our hunt top hundred now in Zach Rude's not far off of it.

[UNKNOWN]: Cameliders now coming back at pic they got at pic 65.

[UNKNOWN]: Yes, they do a great job of Hey, Ty one arm behind our back.

[UNKNOWN]: Don't worry.

[UNKNOWN]: We'll figure out a way to get talent out of it.

[UNKNOWN]: Yep.

[UNKNOWN]: The Dodgers, they don't have a second round pick.

[UNKNOWN]: They don't have a third round pick this year.

[UNKNOWN]: They don't pick again until the fourth round and the Bobby said the back of the fourth round.

[UNKNOWN]: So they pick at 40 and then they pick it again at 132.

[UNKNOWN]: What does that do for your strategy?

[UNKNOWN]: It seems like you're

[UNKNOWN]: If it really limits you, I mean, they have $3.95 million in total bonus pool to spend, so it should be a little over $4 million if they go to the 5% of reach, which they regularly do.

[UNKNOWN]: The next lowest bonus pool in this class is the BlueJays with 5.5.

[UNKNOWN]: So both the the pick capital.

[UNKNOWN]: and the like actual money to spend the Dodgers are as limited as we've ever seen a team in recent years.

[UNKNOWN]: I spoke with the Dodgers specifically for a story on like how you even prepare for that, how you adjust your draft strategy for that.

[UNKNOWN]: And I think the Dodgers are going to continue to operate as normal.

[UNKNOWN]: They're going to line up their board.

[UNKNOWN]: They're going to take the players that they see as the best on their board who they're able to sign obviously.

[UNKNOWN]: You got to have that element in there.

[UNKNOWN]: But the Dodgers routinely get value to spate having no pick capital and it wouldn't surprise me to offer them to continue to do so.

[UNKNOWN]: All right.

[UNKNOWN]: Well, that was that was a good rehearsal.

[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to hit record now guys.

[UNKNOWN]: We're going to record the real.

[UNKNOWN]: No, I was a huge audience.

[UNKNOWN]: You and JJ have fun.

[UNKNOWN]: All right.

[UNKNOWN]: Well, we will.

[UNKNOWN]: We will look back Carlos and make sure to see if you got all of these picks right.

[UNKNOWN]: I like that you throw out a, no, I mean, the truth is, you must have a good feel for what probably could happen at the top of the draft.

[UNKNOWN]: And then it's like one team at four and then one team at six takes, yeah, some guy off the board on an under slot deal, right, something I take every other team.

[UNKNOWN]: changes, you know, it just changes what you're going to do going forward.

[UNKNOWN]: So even the teams themselves, once you're picking.

[UNKNOWN]: You know, even probably starting at number two, but especially at, you know, four, five, six, you know, really know exactly who's going to be available there.

[UNKNOWN]: So I like that you have the information out there to be like, okay, look, these are the types of players or these are the players potentially would be consideration.

[UNKNOWN]: And then, hey, depending on which path down the maze, other teams ahead of them go, these are the guys that could be in play.

[UNKNOWN]: Right.

[UNKNOWN]: I like that.

[UNKNOWN]: You go ahead, JJ.

[UNKNOWN]: I just want to make a point with that is like the, again, we love mocks, so we know that you all more than nest love mocks at the same time, and I'm not a gambler, but a mock draft in some way is like a 30 leg parlay where you're like, because if you get pick one wrong,

[UNKNOWN]: even if it's like, well, I think pick one is 55, 45x, 55x, 45y, and it ends up being the 45% outcome.

[UNKNOWN]: Well, that means you're almost guaranteed to get picked too wrong and then it's going to cascade down.

[UNKNOWN]: I say this, like Carlos has been years where Carlos had the most accurate mock draft out there.

[UNKNOWN]: But to this point is a very vital one, which is you're trying to share the information of these are the players' inconsideration and whether the final pick ends up being the exact one that ends up being

[UNKNOWN]: is useful is fun, but it also means like you could have, you could be bang on on all your information and no one basically bsd in any way where we did, you know, we got great information on this and again that's an impossible with 30, you know, 30 plus picks.

[UNKNOWN]: But even if you did, all that has to happen and I will say credit to Jim Callis, I know it was a simpler time, but the one where he went 18

[UNKNOWN]: you know, because of this exact thing, which is, once you start getting a couple wrong, they don't affect every pick after it, but they affect a lot of them, because if a Justin LeBron goes six rather than 18, it's going to cascade down to affect a lot of him picks in between.

[UNKNOWN]: Or if

[UNKNOWN]: You know, we say, okay, we think that there's tears, but one of these guys who we don't think is that top tier goes for, that means that one of the picks that we thought was gonna be gone by pick five goes five and then it all can't pick.

[UNKNOWN]: But I was gonna say it's like, I feel like, I appreciate that our mock graphs provide a lot of value to you if you actually read.

[UNKNOWN]: the mock drafts and what I mean by that is like there's a lot of information that I feel like is going to be relevant to helping you understand what's going to happen on draft day even if the exact picks like you guys mentioned aren't right but a year ago we had a lot of people acting like Eli Willis was a shocker at number one or that Tyler Bremner wasn't completely off the board selection at number two and I feel like

[UNKNOWN]: I will feel good about the mock if we can generally steer you and say, hey, this is what we're hearing, and if this information is correct, and if you can react to what's happening on draft day, and you're like, okay, this makes sense.

[UNKNOWN]: That's when I feel like, okay, I did an okay job with the mock.

[UNKNOWN]: And at the same time, I do think it's worth reiterating that the teams themselves do not know who they're taking or who's going to be available to them.

[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, we're obviously trying to do the best we can to line them up.

[UNKNOWN]: And adding though also the thing we talked about also here, which is, is that, okay, so we're also trying to do, like if you look at our rankings, okay, when someone, if you see someone go 28, who we have 45 on our board, I know that the tendency there is to say, oh, they, you know, took a big swing, you know, what are they doing?

[UNKNOWN]: Or on flip side, if someone who we have 15 goes

[UNKNOWN]: You kind of have to wait till after they're signed to see what the bonuses are.

[UNKNOWN]: Because the guy who goes 15 may end up signing for 1.5 million less than the guy who's 34.

[UNKNOWN]: And you could say, well, why did he go that late?

[UNKNOWN]: It's because

[UNKNOWN]: He had a number and the teams at 16, 17, 18, 20 were like, nope, not we're not doing that.

[UNKNOWN]: But there was a team who had more money that they could spend and they're like, hey, and by the way, to remind, I can't imagine someone's this far in and doesn't know this, but just in case.

[UNKNOWN]: That doesn't mean that teams picking 19, 2021 are cheap.

[UNKNOWN]: It's not because they're trying to save on the bonus.

[UNKNOWN]: It's because they don't have the same bonus pool on them.

[UNKNOWN]: So this is not something where talent just lines up and goes off the board in descending order from 1 to 500.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, as the guy who writes up our live analysis post of every first round pick the night of the draft I definitely feel that on needing to wait to see like okay, how are they actually paying this guy?

[UNKNOWN]: Are they getting better players, you know, with their later picks, so that is that is very much true, but I know Yeah, go ahead.

[UNKNOWN]: I just want to add one thing with that also is this that like

[UNKNOWN]: I do think we also said like we try to when we're doing this when we're covering the draft.

[UNKNOWN]: We're not trying to pull punches, but the reason we don't go hot-takey is you have to have some intellectual humility in doing this in that the teams we work as hard as we can year round.

[UNKNOWN]: I'm looking at two guys who basically bust it all the time to try to help us make these rankings as good as they can be.

[UNKNOWN]: But if a team takes a guy that we thought was 82, and they take him at 28, when a team takes Evan Carter, we don't our initial reaction is not this teams at idiot.

[UNKNOWN]: Our reaction is, did they know something we don't know because in general,

[UNKNOWN]: a team who has a lot more resources to throw that this than we do, may know something that we don't know.

[UNKNOWN]: And then we're going to dig to try to see, well, what do they know?

[UNKNOWN]: Doesn't mean that teams don't get picks wrong and we'll tell you, you know, which teams

[UNKNOWN]: bomb the draft later on and all that, but on draft day, you're not going to hear a lot from us of that just an idiotic pick because you kind of always want to know, well, what did they know?

[UNKNOWN]: What do they know that we don't?

[UNKNOWN]: Sometimes it's not, but a lot of times it is because they've got a little bit of an extra insight because there are a lot of scouts out there.

[UNKNOWN]: There are a lot of people who spend their entire lives doing this.

[UNKNOWN]: And sometimes

[UNKNOWN]: Well, most of you guys probably just pulled up the timestamps once you're a favorite team and listen to that section, but if you guys are listening after two plus hours of all this discussion, we would definitely want to thank you.

[UNKNOWN]: We would appreciate any glowing reviews, whatever you want to listen to and rate your podcasts.

[UNKNOWN]: So, but we do definitely thank you, and we just thank you guys for

[UNKNOWN]: Paying attention all year and really, you know, we cover this 20, 26 class going back multiple years.

[UNKNOWN]: So it's been certainly especially on the high school side for me a lot of fun to cover.

[UNKNOWN]: I'm just like looking forward to getting it across the finish line and seeing like what actually happens now on the draft.

[UNKNOWN]: So thank you guys for listening, for Carlos, for JJ.

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