00:03.12
Nandi K
Welcome to Right Quick.
00:11.68
Vance π
A bite-sized pop culture conversation with your favorite Queer unfriendly Black hotties.
00:16.62
Nandi K
Today we're unfriendly because there's just not enough Queer sports representation in media. I'm Nandi Kay.
00:24.94
Vance π
And I'm Vance Gowe. um Queer sport representation in media. What are queer sports?
00:34.74
Nandi K
i mean Yeah, what are queer sports? I feel like that's a good question. And it's a question maybe that we'll answer today. But I think when I think about that, I don't think about people. What are queer teams? I guess people have like gay intramural.
Have you played on one of those gay intramural teams?
00:54.90
Vance π
Which, like...
00:55.14
Nandi K
You seem like one of those sports gays.
00:58.01
Vance π
No Well, yeah, so there's one in Long Beach.
01:00.88
Nandi K
Uh-huh.
01:01.21
Vance π
They do volleyball, but um it's all whites and non-Blacks.
01:06.06
Nandi K
Oh.
01:06.21
Vance π
And um the non-black ah the non-Black gays in Long Beach, they just align with white gays, so...
01:13.55
Nandi K
Oh, sad.
01:14.23
Vance π
I don't fuck with them. but um
01:16.62
Nandi K
Real.
01:17.62
Vance π
But my friend, my roommate is in the league and I go to their event sometimes. So I know some of the people. um They're fine. They're not terrible, but I don't. The racial stuff.
01:30.04
Vance π
And then if see a Black person in a space where there ain't no other Black people and they don't make eye contact with me and do the telepathic, hey, what are we doing?
01:30.84
Nandi K
Yeah.
01:34.38
Nandi K
Mm. Beep boop, beep boop, beep boop, beep boop, beep boop.
01:38.95
Vance π
Right, right.
01:40.12
Nandi K
Alarm, alarm, alarm, alarm.
01:41.14
Vance π
Danger, WillRobinson. So, yeah. Yeah.
01:45.66
Nandi K
Yeah, I just don't feel like you ever hear about people talking about gay sports. Gay people playing sports? Yes.
01:56.02
Nandi K
Does that make it a gay sport?
01:56.67
Vance π
No. No. No. It's the same thing as having like a black person in a movie. It is not a Black movie just because Gabrielle Union's there. It needs to be...
02:07.22
Nandi K
But Netflix will lead you to believe that it is.
02:07.22
Aaron Freeman
Thank
02:10.94
Nandi K
They are going to put that Nigga on the cover.
02:11.27
Vance π
With the icon. Yeah.
02:13.62
Nandi K
They're
02:14.58
Vance π
She had got two lines. She a damn...
02:16.75
Nandi K
going to put that Nigga on the cover.
02:18.32
Vance π
She a maid. That's the elevator man. where he on the ah Right.
02:22.03
Nandi K
She don't come in until season four.
02:24.73
Vance π
I said, what? and no that shit Did you see that thing on Threads? They were like, ah I forgot what show was, but it was like, there wasn't a Black person on the icon. Damn, I forgot what show...
02:34.06
Nandi K
Yeah. Oh, I saw this though and they were like, because they know you won't watch shows with Black people.
02:39.54
Vance π
Yes.
02:41.02
Nandi K
Yeah.
02:42.38
Vance π
i' was dying because Shanna dumbass was like, oh, I was like,
02:48.00
Nandi K
Mmm.
02:49.10
Vance π
hmm. Read the thing.
02:50.55
Nandi K
Mmm.
02:53.55
Nandi K
Mmm.
02:53.82
Vance π
Donβt come from my sister.
02:56.56
Nandi K
Don't come for my sister.
02:56.66
Vance π
Her algorithm already came for her. Yeah.
03:02.37
Nandi K
Yeah, when I found out that Netflix was making the cover black because they knew I would be more likely to watch it if I saw a nigga on the cover, I got mad.
03:07.38
Vance π
yeah yeah
03:13.75
Nandi K
Because I hate when I click and then the person, it seems like they're not even in it.
03:14.14
Vance π
I dig it.
03:16.92
Vance π
And it no niggas. There's no niggas. Yeah, it's the maid. You've been bamboozled.
03:22.66
Nandi K
That's fucked.
03:23.80
Vance π
No, I thought it was funny because I was like, I guess that makes sense because I sure clicked on it because I saw, you know, Gabrielle Union, but she ain't got no lines.
03:31.00
Nandi K
Yes. Malcolm Jamal Warner, RIP.
03:34.20
Vance π
Right. Right.
03:35.75
Nandi K
On that fucking medical show that he was on, The Resident.
03:39.38
Vance π
Oh, I forgot the name of her.
03:41.31
Nandi K
I think it's called The Resident.
03:43.03
Vance π
It is called The Resident.
03:44.50
Nandi K
Sean loves medical drama, soβ¦
03:46.65
Vance π
I don't like procedurals.
03:48.94
Nandi K
I don't always like medical dramas, but some of them are... Grey's Anatomy is pretty good.
03:56.63
Vance π
That's, is that gay sports?
03:56.75
Nandi K
um I was about to say, I think we're kind of getting into it.
04:02.71
Vance π
Is that, I feel like it could, because Scandal is gay sports.
04:06.59
Nandi K
Scandal, absolutely gay sports. What was the other Shonda Rhimes gay sports?
04:10.78
Vance π
How to Get Away murder.
04:11.03
Nandi K
How to Get Away With Murder.
04:12.26
Vance π
Yes, yes.
04:12.34
Nandi K
That was my shit. They used to have the doubleheader. Now, I'll say... I didn't really watch Scandal fully. I watched it on the internet because that was one of the ones.
04:25.24
Vance π
Yes.
04:25.50
Nandi K
As a lot of gay sports, we'll see that a common thread with gay sports is a community conversation that happens around them.
04:34.17
Vance π
Yeah. I mean, yeah, let's get into it because I definitely have on here appointment television. So I put that because I feel like it does the same thing sports does.
04:42.18
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah.
04:46.62
Vance π
ah Everybody agrees that we like this thing. We all come together typically, whether it's online or physically at a bar or something.
04:53.47
Nandi K
Mm-hmm. Yep.
04:54.74
Vance π
And we watch the same thing. And then, you know, Scandal invented live tweeting. Kerry Washington. Black woman, come on.
05:01.52
Nandi K
Yeah.
05:02.22
Vance π
ah They, you know, they popularized that.
05:03.11
Nandi K
Mm.
05:05.02
Vance π
So that being said, like Scandal was actually like one of the first ones where it was like the the actors and actresses are online, talking about the show with the people.
05:12.62
Nandi K
Right.
05:15.53
Vance π
Rest in peace, Twitter. So um ah Scandal was one.
05:18.44
Nandi K
RIP her.
05:19.51
Vance π
um I got Insecure on here. We've talked about that.
05:21.75
Nandi K
ah
05:22.03
Vance π
Like how we.
05:22.43
Nandi K
Yes. Oh my God.
05:23.43
Vance π
Yeah.
05:24.11
Nandi K
Insecure. That was super gay beat. That was super queer sports.
05:27.81
Vance π
Yeah. Yep. Game of Thrones, even to an extent. um For me, I used to host Walking Dead parties, like, like at my house in ah in the earlier seasons, for sure.
05:36.69
Nandi K
Wow.
05:39.55
Vance π
But, like...
05:39.81
Nandi K
you're so You're such a faggot. Wow. Host walking dead parties.
05:44.82
Vance π
Yeah.
05:45.23
Nandi K
Yeah, oh and I know you did.
05:45.70
Vance π
Shut up
05:48.88
Nandi K
Stable. She's stable. She can host. o She's a catch. Oh, yeah.
05:55.64
Vance π
Popular with the girls.
05:57.08
Vance π
ah So yeah, Game of Thrones, It's a Kira Walking Dead. What else? um Anything on HBO, really? Because I feel like we be talking about...
06:04.75
Nandi K
Yeah.
06:04.92
Vance π
ah i don't even watch some of the shows. What's the White Lotus?
06:09.75
Nandi K
Oh, yeah, I only watched one season of that.
06:10.49
Vance π
The gays. It's very white.
06:12.88
Nandi K
Or maybe two. I fell off after the second season, I think. I can't remember.
06:18.88
Vance π
Mm-hmm.
06:18.94
Nandi K
They all blur together, and they're so short.
06:22.42
Vance π
Yeah, I don't...
06:22.69
Nandi K
These seasons are so short. Yeah, that's a good point that anything HBO... I was late to the Game of Thrones party.
06:30.33
Vance π
Yes.
06:31.48
Nandi K
I was out there just being gay, and then eventually Sean was like, no, you have to watch this.
06:38.68
Vance π
What season did you join?
06:41.07
Nandi K
Oh, it wasn't on. It was in between season seven and eight.
06:43.22
Vance π
Oh, really?
06:44.93
Nandi K
Yeah.
06:45.86
Vance π
Dang.
06:46.05
Nandi K
Right before, one year before we did Dem Thrones, I had watched Game of Thrones all the way through for the first time.
06:55.64
Vance π
Oh, dang.
06:56.48
Nandi K
One year before, but by the time we did them Thrones, I had watched it three or four times.
06:56.68
Vance π
You...
07:05.18
Vance π
Psycho. Psycho. you you You see the thread there, though. The common thing about your ass being a Time Lord and, like, breaking all these uh-huh, uh-huh, unnatural seven seasons three times.
07:11.63
Nandi K
I was watching it with Sean. There's no time lording. that What do you mean? I didn't say how fast I watched One year? the ah the seasons aren't that long.
07:21.12
Vance π
What?
07:23.00
Nandi K
We're talking about eight to ten episodes.
07:25.46
Vance π
an hour a piece that's so long enough and three times and then your ass was like up to date enough to be on that damn show being a Game of Thronesologist
07:34.31
Nandi K
They take like two years in between to make these shows. I'm like, it's not my fault.
07:39.18
Vance π
I'm just saying there's a mm-hmm
07:40.31
Nandi K
They take what they take long breaks. That gave me a long time to watch to get interested. I said, my God.
07:47.28
Vance π
That's exactly what a crime criminal would say. But Game of Thrones.
07:49.13
Nandi K
My God.
07:51.28
Vance π
ah What? Oh, you you got ah internet beefs and lawsuits. um
07:57.26
Nandi K
Agreed. Yeah.
07:58.42
Vance π
I think that um another thing here, culture.
08:03.11
Nandi K
Sure.
08:03.83
Vance π
The gays, the queers are like, whether it be fashion or just like pop culture in general, I think we just kind of tapped in in that way.
08:08.67
Nandi K
Yeah.
08:11.38
Nandi K
Yeah. And everybody has to choose a side.
08:12.28
Vance π
Spirit. Right. So like we spearhead the conversation.
08:14.89
Nandi K
Their side's gotta win. Mm-hmm.
08:17.53
Vance π
um Yeah. So internet beefs. I mean, what's it called? Rap beefs. You know, we.
08:24.67
Nandi K
I mean, i can't prove it, but I do feel like gays were leading the Kendrick and Drake beef on the internet. I do feel like I can't prove it I just have a feeling.
08:38.54
Vance π
I. But I also feel like because of the whole leading the conversation, like we already know not to say who won, but like who we side with because I think a lot of us are principled.
08:44.04
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
08:51.61
Vance π
Maybe not all of us, but um
08:53.26
Nandi K
Well, there are some men in our ranks, so, you know.
08:55.96
Vance π
yeah, you know, but like Drake, who, who, at what point are we, I think if you're still riding with Drake, what are we doing?
09:03.82
Nandi K
Light skins.
09:05.14
Vance π
Yeah. Just because of the pedophilia.
09:05.92
Nandi K
There's a lot of light skin loyalty.
09:06.96
Vance π
Yeah.
09:09.13
Nandi K
um Yeah, also wrestling.
09:09.32
Vance π
Wrasstling
09:12.75
Nandi K
Now, wrestling might be the gayest sport, and it might be the most sport-like thing that we have.
09:22.10
Vance π
it is i think wrestling is a gay sport for sure like
09:25.22
Nandi K
Now, I'm pretty out of the loop. I haven't watched wrestling in a long time. Every now and then, something really fun comes across my social media and I'm like, should I start watching wrestling again?
09:39.25
Nandi K
Aaron, you be watching wrestling. How gay is wrestling?
09:44.12
Aaron Freeman
I would say wrestling is gayer than it's ever been. Probably.
09:48.07
Nandi K
Ooh.
09:49.43
Aaron Freeman
yeah because it's across like multiple promotions. like Outside WWE being like really aligned with the corporate interests and like the Republican Party, everything outside of that has an escalating quality quantity of gayness on it to the point where i like some promotions just have outward... like just gay wrestlers there are gay promo is a gay promotion in austin for example just straight right there's just like performances between the matches and after the shows and everything like that so it's like yeah so it's it's gayer than it's ever been it's the best time i think this is the best time in life to become a wrestling fan I think
10:12.74
Nandi K
Nice.
10:28.65
Nandi K
Wow, that's saying a lot.
10:29.66
Vance π
Okay, where where do we start? Like, do we just wanted the like, this week, I want to watch wrestling. Where do I start?
10:37.58
Aaron Freeman
um I would say you would want to start with aw since it's on so wrestling requires you to find it a little bit so WWE is on 17 streaming things but we skip that AEWis on tnt tvs on like Wednesdays and Saturdays
10:54.21
Nandi K
Where wrestling has always been I want to point out on TNT
10:59.42
Aaron Freeman
so southern That's a southern a Southern person's response. Yes, that's exact and they lean on that. That's exactly the rich so the rich wrestling. there are and they They tour the AEW Tours the South a lot for this reason because of that exact that exact response, TNT, Southern Wrestling.
11:14.95
Nandi K
Also, those are my that's my local wrestling people, right?
11:19.03
Aaron Freeman
They are in Jacksonville.
11:19.84
Nandi K
Yeah. They're based in Duval, baby.
11:21.52
Vance π
Oh. Oh, nice.
11:23.32
Aaron Freeman
You can actually probably...
11:23.54
Nandi K
The same man who owns the Jaguars, his son or something, owns this wrestling shit.
11:29.82
Aaron Freeman
shahan owns the Sha owns the Jaguars and Tony Khan owns AEW.
11:33.29
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah. That's correct.
11:37.18
Aaron Freeman
And Ring of Honor, which actually records weekly in a studio in Jacksonville. So like that extra promotion is there every week.
11:42.47
Nandi K
There's plenty of space, baby.
11:44.63
Aaron Freeman
Yeah. So...
11:47.69
Vance π
Okay, wrestling.
11:47.97
Nandi K
yeah
11:49.02
Vance π
Yeah, but I agree. Wrestling is the gay. like It's the gay one. like We just had to say which one's it. Look at the clothes.
11:55.49
Nandi K
Oh my god I used to watch some wrestling gay porn I'm like literally the pipeline from wrestling to porn is like doused in some kind of silicone based lube
11:55.58
Vance π
ah What they be doing.
12:09.88
Vance π
I mean, it's... It's borderline pornographic. like I mean, it's just not like...
12:13.60
Nandi K
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
12:15.10
Vance π
Yeah, it's just...
12:15.36
Nandi K
I feel like they be grabbing each other's booty holes to flip them up in the air. Very erotic. Very homoerotic. They're always in each other's faces about to kiss. I be like, ooh.
12:27.54
Aaron Freeman
They do now. I'll pass along some steps.
12:29.72
Nandi K
Ooh.
12:30.62
Aaron Freeman
They do, like, they're wrestling, like, the the queer overtones are now just queer interactions.
12:35.23
Nandi K
Ugh.
12:36.95
Aaron Freeman
Straight up, like, two wrestlers, like, there's a trans wrestler and a lady wrestler who are, who are, who are, like, circling each other, and they wrestle the match on the indies, and they got real close the way wrestlers do, and then they started kissing, and everyone's like, yeah, you know, what we can you we know, and and and then they fought each other.
12:48.50
Nandi K
Oh my God, I'm gay. ah
12:53.24
Aaron Freeman
Combat is a love language, is Gance said.
12:54.78
Vance π
Yeah.
12:56.09
Aaron Freeman
And the
12:56.14
Nandi K
as As you always say, Vance, the six love languages combat.
12:58.62
Vance π
Yes. It's six love language. It's combat. back Kick her ass.
13:02.72
Aaron Freeman
And...
13:03.77
Vance π
Kick her face.
13:04.27
Nandi K
Oh my gosh, I started feeling deep arousal on that description.
13:10.01
Vance π
Oh, not this became the wrestling cast. um Award shows. Also gay.
13:15.97
Nandi K
Very. I mean, like, obviously the gayest is the Tonys because there's so many homos on Broadway.
13:17.02
Vance π
um The Tony's, yeah. It's just simply gay, yeah.
13:24.88
Nandi K
Because there's so many open homos on Broadway.
13:25.37
Vance π
um Right, right. Yeah, every every other person is a homo. um The Oscars, I feel like in LA, that's a sport. like people really care.
13:35.23
Nandi K
Sure.
13:36.73
Vance π
They have parties. I'm starting to care less and less every day because fuck Hollywood.
13:41.60
Nandi K
Yeah, in New York, the Tonys was like kind of a big thing. to Are you competitive?
13:45.59
Vance π
The Emmys. Yeah,
13:47.14
Nandi K
like Are you a competitive person?
13:49.69
Vance π
Yeah, I Yes and no. It depends on what. i ah Yeah, if I'm playing games, I don't know what it is about games. It just bring it out of me. like I'll be like, I'm going to beat you. I like talking shit.
14:03.92
Nandi K
ah wow. Wow.
14:04.11
Vance π
I just have a good time. But for me, it's the it's the sport. It's the play of it all. um I think big picture, like I don't think I'm always like looking to be the best or beat people because I'm good being who I am. But when we're playing games, I kind of switch and be like, going kick your ass.
What about you?
14:20.12
Nandi K
Okay. Yeah, I'm not very competitive, but what I'll say is when it comes to games, I'm a What do I always say? I'm a sore winner, but a great loser. So when I lose, I don't feel any type of way because I love when a sore winner goes to glow and I'm like, yeah, you did great.
14:34.36
Vance π
Okay.
14:44.41
Nandi K
Like, yeah, you won fair and square. But when I win,
Yeah, it's not my best. It's not my ah my best face.
14:54.90
Vance π
and Not your best, not your highest.
14:57.25
Nandi K
It's not my best face.
14:57.24
Vance π
But same.
14:58.95
Nandi K
But I grew up super competitive. I'm mostly only competitive when it comes to playing games, though. We grew up, I think also when you're Black, you know, pledging Black Phi Black for life.
15:13.50
Nandi K
It's hard.
15:15.14
Vance π
Mm-hmm.
15:16.04
Nandi K
It's hard. And you do want other people to go through what you're going through because it's a lifelong thing, Pledge and Black by Black. You actually never cross. You never have a probate show for Black Phi Black.
15:27.34
Vance π
You're not gonna. you're not gonna.
15:28.75
Nandi K
You never become a member. You're forever online.
15:32.50
Vance π
Mm-hmm.
15:32.65
Nandi K
And so, like...
15:34.70
Vance π
Probation.
15:35.76
Nandi K
Yeah, it's like it's hard enough. So like I feel like we grow up super competitive, especially around games. and We grew up in my house. Scrabble was not for play play. That was the the crazy game in my house. We do not play about Scrabble.
15:55.20
Nandi K
We cuss each other out around Scrabble.
15:56.92
Vance π
It...
15:58.26
Nandi K
It's a lot of rules. Get the dictionary.
16:01.24
Vance π
Right.
16:01.35
Nandi K
You know, it's real.
16:01.80
Vance π
That's not a word.
16:04.38
Nandi K
Yeah, it's crazy with Scrabble around my house.
16:09.64
Vance π
Dominoes for me, me and my grand my grandpa taught me dominoes, so that's what I play.
16:10.89
Nandi K
Yeah.
16:13.40
Vance π
um i We were not a card. They didn't do gambling, so we didn't play a lot of card games. And now that I don' know how to play spades, but I'm uninterested.
16:18.99
Nandi K
Yeah.
16:23.05
Vance π
um You niggers. Y'all can bleep that if we need to.
16:26.27
Nandi K
Wow, not you not like us.
16:27.29
Vance π
you you
16:28.38
Nandi K
That's crazy.
16:28.41
Vance π
You hard-ars, Nandi.
16:30.59
Nandi K
That's crazy that you're not like us.
16:31.45
Vance π
I went to a birthday party on Friday.
16:33.83
Nandi K
They tore your ass up.
16:35.54
Vance π
No, I didn't play. I read the room. I said, I don't know a lot of you.
16:39.41
Nandi K
You saw you was in danger. Uh-huh.
16:41.75
Vance π
Yeah, I said, I said that. I was like, I don't know a lot of y'all here. And, ah you know, some of y'all been drinking. I said, actually, I'm not going to play that.
16:50.20
Nandi K
I know.
16:50.47
Vance π
i don't need that energy.
16:50.77
Nandi K
Wow, smart. You made a safe bet. Boo! Boo!
16:54.90
Vance π
Wait, Nandi, 15, 15 minutes later, ah somebody started screaming. Someone started yelling at somebody. Then the other one started yelling back. Then the other Nigga was like, ah I wanted to hit your ass when you said X, Y, Z.
17:09.36
Vance π
And then the one he said that to said, who you going to hit?
17:09.46
Nandi K
Oh!
17:12.12
Vance π
And he stood up. furniture started moving around. I said, oh my God.
17:16.39
Nandi K
What?
17:17.56
Vance π
I said, did I not call this? And then the one who said I was going hit you had to leave because he was about to get beat up by the guy.
17:24.34
Nandi K
Well, you can't be saying that.
17:25.47
Vance π
Hey.
17:25.86
Nandi K
You escalated it when you said that. It's one thing to be mad and be talking shit and screaming, but saying I wanted to hit you is wild.
17:35.38
Vance π
Right. And and also...
17:35.74
Nandi K
See? Mm-hmm.
17:37.80
Vance π
Yelling. I think yelling. We yelling right now. We Black. I think when we get excited, we be yelling.
17:41.59
Nandi K
Yeah, niggas be talking a loud.
17:43.43
Vance π
We be yelling.
17:43.61
Nandi K
But actually, like, screaming at somebody.
17:44.00
Vance π
Got it. Yes. That feels violent.
17:46.94
Nandi K
Yeah, I've never gotten that serious in space. Mind you, I lied to learn how to play space, the correct way to learn how to play
17:55.38
Vance π
You got to. You got to. That's savvy.
17:57.91
Nandi K
But I'm a decent Spades player. We also played a lot of card games growing up. I'm a pretty decent Spades player. We played poker a lot growing up. I played a lot of poker. My dad also taught us how to play poker. He taught us how to play card games and dominoes and all this. that I'm not very good at dominoes, though.
18:14.86
Vance π
I love dominoes.
18:15.47
Nandi K
Sean has taught me how to play, but I always forget. I'm definitely more of a card person.
18:22.97
Vance π
One to ten, I'm like a seven, eight dominoes. So like I could just play like I could play with good people and hold it down.
18:27.09
Nandi K
I would probably say I'm about a three.
18:29.82
Vance π
and then, you know, I'll watch weak people.
18:30.20
Nandi K
No I cannot hold it now. I need help. I'm like, what do I do? i need a reminder.
18:36.22
Vance π
Well, some people, some people don't even count the dominoes. They just connect the dots.
18:40.44
Nandi K
I don't want to hear this. Now it's going too far. That's going too far.
18:44.73
Vance π
That's how to the...
18:44.88
Nandi K
Who's not counting? That's
18:46.70
Vance π
Apparently, that's how Mexicans play. I said, hey, I won't be playing with no Mexicans.
I said, they got to play the nigga way.
18:49.59
Nandi K
Hey I don't know nothing about that lifestyle I don't know that Well also you know Drag Race has been on You know Mother Rude does not let us Breathe So season 18 literally Just ended and two weeks After that they dropped Two episodes of All Stars 11
19:03.35
Vance π
Hill on the net.
19:09.72
Vance π
All-stars. All-stars, get in here. Where's your money? Did you bring your wallet?
19:16.28
Vance π
She said, we take them off.
19:16.31
Nandi K
Child Get your purse girl
19:18.39
Vance π
Right. So, i don't know. I'm going to need to find it online. I'm gonna to steal it or watch it with the homies because I'm not doing Paramount no more.
19:28.70
Nandi K
You might just need to watch one of the recap shows.
19:32.41
Vance π
That's fair.
19:33.05
Nandi K
Like with Bob and Monet.
19:33.50
Vance π
I mean, I so enjoy watching like Saturday mornings.
19:40.76
Nandi K
The pit stop.
19:41.05
Vance π
And then messaging you and being like, so-and-so, or my favorite is so-and-so.
19:42.61
Nandi K
Oh yeah.
19:46.16
Nandi K
Ugh.
19:48.28
Vance π
And then they get, they get kicked off and then we don't have no more favorites. And then a white queen wins.
19:52.52
Nandi K
I be like, oh my God, did you watch? I mean, season 18 was kind of a letdown of a season in terms of, I just wasn't as excited about the finalists as I was about the group when the season started.
20:11.51
Vance π
Well, that's because I think all the girls that were showing promise got out kind of early and it was just like, well, and then it increasingly got confusing about who was going to win.
20:15.74
Nandi K
Yeah.
20:20.35
Vance π
Cause I feel like most of the time with Drag Race, you know, who's going win. Like you can, you can vibe out who the top three, four, five going to be.
20:24.06
Nandi K
Yep.
20:27.89
Vance π
But like this season, it was like a wild card.
20:28.61
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
20:30.74
Vance π
Like even Jane don't for as much as folks don't like her. thought she going to do better. And
20:35.29
Nandi K
I mean, she had an incredible track record. The fact that she went home on her challenge when she just happened to have a bad week that week, it does happen.
20:38.95
Vance π
I thought she was,
20:43.46
Vance π
Right
20:47.88
Nandi K
It is a competition. But she was also on the pit stop already for All Stars 11.
20:57.55
Nandi K
And it was fun to listen to her reflect on her time there. She was like, yeah, obviously I'm like, I would have done some things differently.
21:09.24
Vance π
well
21:11.38
Vance π
And some of the girls, like, ah who was the little athletic one, though though the dancing-ass queen, the little Juicy?
21:11.38
Nandi K
Juicy.
21:17.53
Nandi K
Juicy. Juicy love Dion.
21:19.59
Vance π
Juicy was one of the...
21:20.42
Nandi K
Them Dion's, baby. They everywhere. Mm-hmm.
21:23.48
Vance π
So, like, Juicy was, like, in the bottom, like, three times. And I feel like the people that are in the bottom a bunch is like, yeah, when they get off, we get it. Like, it's just like, yeah, like, you have not been a strong performer. Yeah.
21:35.03
Vance π
in the in the kind and in the in the In the challenges or whatever, right?
21:37.38
Nandi K
Yeah.
21:38.95
Vance π
But then, like, yeah, so I didn't get it with Jane.
21:39.00
Nandi K
Right.
21:41.19
Vance π
ah Vita, I feel like I wish Vita would have went farther. um
21:44.76
Nandi K
Same. Yeah.
21:46.00
Vance π
Mia Starr became one of my faves this season.
21:47.74
Nandi K
ah She just has a great personality. I'm going to keep following her.
21:51.53
Vance π
I like Mia.
21:52.66
Nandi K
I would love to see her on an All-Stars run soon. I want to see Kenya Pleaser on an All-Stars run soon.
21:58.46
Vance π
Kenya.
21:59.38
Nandi K
I think she needs three or four seasons to bake, though.
21:59.93
Vance π
I think a little... ah A little polish. Yeah, she just need a little polish.
22:04.06
Nandi K
Yeah.
22:05.58
Vance π
Um
22:06.10
Nandi K
She needs some baking time.
22:07.80
Vance π
She had the Kory King story like where it was just like she just wasn't showing up, but then she started showing up.
22:15.45
Nandi K
I mean...
22:15.67
Vance π
She did better than Kory.
22:17.94
Nandi K
I don't really think she really started showing up, but.
22:21.21
Vance π
She was doing better. so I guess what I'm getting at
22:23.32
Nandi K
But she did do better at the roast than homegirl. And so.
22:28.15
Vance π
It was the roast, but also the design challenge, the second one when...
22:32.06
Nandi K
Oh, the second one when Michelle said, who helped you? Gaggy.
22:34.74
Vance π
Right. is she was like, I know how to sew.
22:36.31
Nandi K
Gaggy.
22:38.04
Vance π
Like, well, do you?
22:40.21
Nandi K
gaggy
22:40.63
Vance π
We saw what you did last time.
22:42.10
Nandi K
We saw what you did.
22:42.43
Vance π
That shit was funny.
22:43.66
Nandi K
We were surprised.
22:43.67
Vance π
We saw. We were all here.
22:45.69
Nandi K
We had no idea. Yeah, I think, yeah, I've been really, drag race always, and it's such a competition because you really need to be able to do it all. You need to be able to write a verse, act, turn a look, do dance moves.
22:58.25
Vance π
Act, be funny, improv, so, a host.
23:03.16
Nandi K
So these bitches still don't know how to sell, though.
23:04.60
Vance π
Yeah, like, that, you gotta be, you gotta come with a little, like, girl, go to the junior college. Like, what are we doing? I feel like YMCA got,
23:13.61
Nandi K
You don't even need to do all that. Like, it don't take all that. You don't have to go to the junior college. You can go on YouTube University.
23:24.70
Vance π
Well, the the is the fact that they're not doing nothing is crazy. Because I'm like, you you knew you were coming on this show.
23:28.24
Nandi K
wild.
23:30.81
Vance π
like you
23:31.19
Nandi K
They don't have design skills either. Not only can they not sew, they can't put stuff together, period.
23:39.61
Vance π
You applied to this show because you know you wanted to be on it. And I know you didn't just wake up and do that. So because of that, you should have been working on at least that.
23:48.86
Nandi K
This is what I'm saying. Well, obviously, reality TV shows are a big part of queer sports.
23:54.78
Vance π
Yes.
23:56.28
Nandi K
um I think probably for the same reasons we talked about is the kind of, what did you call it? Appointment television?
24:04.34
Vance π
Appointment television. Yeah.
24:05.50
Nandi K
And with streaming, the conversation is always kind of lingering, which is fun, I think, so that when you whenever you pick up a show, you can still join in on the conversation no matter when it is.
24:11.00
Vance π
Yeah. Yeah.
24:15.93
Vance π
Right. Right. And it's always somebody new. I also would like to speak to just a um like the reality shows that require people to like be someone else and like ah connive and not not to say the conniving.
24:30.55
Nandi K
Yes.
24:32.59
Vance π
I'm that that what i'm I'm getting there. So like, but like Big Brother, Survivor, even Love Island to an extent, Traitors, but like all the shows that require you to show up differently than how you actually do.
24:35.31
Nandi K
It's a game. Mm-hmm.
24:44.31
Vance π
I think the queers are better at that.
24:44.38
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
24:47.19
Vance π
They're more adept at that because like just growing up a queer person, you are always showing up different than who you are.
24:47.86
Nandi K
Yes.
24:53.31
Vance π
So then when you have to use that skill to to to win,
24:57.66
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
24:58.02
Vance π
I think that speaks to us. And that's why I think some these people go on these shows and be eating because it's like, yeah. And same thing with being Black. Like, it's just like the natural code switch of it all.
25:05.02
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah.
25:06.68
Vance π
It's just like, well, I code switch every day.
25:09.11
Nandi K
yeah
25:09.46
Vance π
You think I can't play in y'all's face to get a million dollars?
25:12.54
Nandi K
Yeah, this is why, like we're watching Million Dollar Secret right now, which is a really fun kind of murder mystery. Who has the money? The money moves around the boxes. Secret agendas and stuff like that, which is really fun. on The mall, which was also fun. um The Circle, which is one of our favorites.
25:33.50
Vance π
Yeah, we love The Circle.
25:34.44
Nandi K
that We love The Circle. um I think they're not going to bring it back, maybe.
25:38.78
Vance π
I heard. I asked somebody because I met someone who was on the new season of... um What's that? Fear Factor came back.
25:47.81
Nandi K
Oh, okay.
25:48.38
Vance π
And there's a black... there's a Well, they they they moved into a mansion. They changed the format. So it's kind of like Hassell villains coded, but it's a Fear Factor.
25:56.76
Nandi K
Okay.
25:56.86
Vance π
And Steve-O, I think, is the host. Or Johnny Knoxville.
25:59.90
Nandi K
We don't need that.
26:00.47
Vance π
Anyway...
26:00.82
Nandi K
They did not need to bring it back.
26:01.18
Vance π
anyway There's a Black, I don't remember where met that nigga. But anyway, there was ah a black gay man that I met at a party. he was like, βI was on a new fear factor.β, And then we were talking about reality. Like, you know, I got a little juiced.
26:14.93
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
26:15.72
Vance π
ah I told him about ah the circle.
26:15.99
Nandi K
Yeah.
26:17.35
Vance π
And he was like, because said, I can't do most of the reality shows, but I would do the circle.
26:21.14
Nandi K
Yeah.
26:21.56
Vance π
And I talked about how you and I want.
26:22.10
Nandi K
Yeah.
26:22.88
Vance π
he was like, I think they're done. i was like, dang.
26:25.21
Nandi K
Yeah, I feel like they're done too. Yeah, we wanted to do the circle real bad. Well, I think the last thing, and this is honestly, I feel like it's not more competitive is that, you know, I just want somebody to keep up with me. I want somebody to win a pizza party with me. You know, like reading, like it's not really competitive, but I do feel like I have been talking about it more competitively as of late.
26:53.66
Vance π
But when I talk about it, it is a competition. It's just not. So how many books are we? How many books do we need to read to get that pizza party?
27:02.55
Nandi K
Well, it's 25 books for a pizza.
27:05.56
Vance π
Okay. This year?
27:08.70
Nandi K
Period. Once you get to every time you read books, you get a pizza party.
27:12.54
Vance π
Oh, so we need to hold that to you. I would like. Niggas got to have proof, though. You do got to have some version of proof.
27:19.03
Nandi K
Yeah, and I guess what?
27:19.13
Vance π
I don't know what that.
27:20.35
Nandi K
You can send me proof, and guess what? Only one person is getting the pizza party. It might be Vance.
27:26.55
Vance π
It might be Vance because I'm at like five. um
27:29.56
Nandi K
Oh, you're not gonna get it.
27:31.06
Vance π
Fuck off.
27:31.32
Nandi K
Sean's gonna beat you.
27:31.82
Vance π
Oh, fuck off. All right.
27:33.38
Nandi K
Sean's gonna get there before you.
27:37.11
Vance π
Everyone could go to hell.
27:37.34
Nandi K
Sean is pretty close. Sean's like a couple books away.
27:41.30
Vance π
Oh, really?
27:41.56
Nandi K
I'm like, yeah, Sean's a couple books away.
27:45.15
Vance π
right.
27:45.45
Nandi K
Sean is at 24 books, so...
27:47.74
Vance π
Oh, Sean's one book away.
27:49.25
Nandi K
They're one book away. Yeah.
27:51.16
Vance π
Are they reading a book right now?
27:52.82
Nandi K
They are. They just started a new book last night.
27:58.52
Vance π
So
27:59.38
Nandi K
Yeah, so who knows who's going to get it. It might be a pizza party in my own house. I always share my pizza party, so it seems right.
28:08.06
Vance π
Like a good, good boss.
28:09.33
Nandi K
I've read 39 books this year.
28:12.44
Vance π
What was the last podcast?
28:12.55
Nandi K
I'm kind of slowing down right now.
28:13.60
Vance π
Like 20.
28:15.41
Nandi K
Hmm?
28:17.18
Vance π
I said, what was the number last podcast? Like 10.
28:27.38
Vance π
All right. ah we Are we wrapping?
28:30.23
Nandi K
Yeah, I think we did it, right?
28:31.67
Vance π
All right.
28:33.02
Vance π
Today's episode was sponsored by Big Gay Sports.
28:39.22
Nandi K
We don't have advertising dollars yet, but baby, when we do, watch out.
28:45.62
Vance π
ah Big thanks to our producer, Adio Adonis, Aaron Rand Freeman. I have been Vance Gowe. You can find me on Instagram and threads. you already know where. Where can we find you?
28:58.29
Nandi K
Y'all can find me, I'm Nandi K on Instagram threads in blue sky at Nandi K-A-Y-Y-Y.
29:06.06
Nandi K
We'll see y'all next time.
29:07.80
Vance π
Deuces.
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