00:00.79
Vance 😈
Welcome back to Right Quick.

00:02.71
Nandi K
A bite-sized pop culture conversation with your favorite Queer unfriendly Black hotties.

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Vance 😈
Today we're unfriendly because The Pynk has yet to reopen and it's in the middle of 2026. I'm Vance Gowe. i'm vance go

00:16.28
Nandi K
And I'm Nandi Kay. Yo, is the pink shut down? um

00:21.30
Vance 😈
I think it's shut down because, like, ah last I heard they was ah done with wrap.

00:22.81
Nandi K
yeah

00:25.66
Vance 😈
They wrapped with filming and all this. And I'm like, where's Uncle Clifford? I need guidance.
Like, the girls need the boss to be in charge.

00:35.16
Nandi K
Yeah. ah Yeah, they had announced the last time they announced the trailer by... okay so this is what I heard. it was like officially set for return 2026. And this was on at the end of January.

00:51.00
Vance 😈
ah Okay, that's what I'm...

00:56.98
Nandi K
And they said production wrapped in November of 2024.

01:03.93
Vance 😈
Okay, four. Uh-uh.

01:06.73
Nandi K
Uh-huh.

01:07.93
Vance 😈
Uh uh

01:08.93
Nandi K
Uh-huh. But a combination of industry-wide strikes and extensive post-production process pushed the release further down the road. Now… How much post-production...

01:22.97
Vance 😈
Fuck off. it's been It's about to be two years.

01:27.13
Nandi K
And it wrap it wrapped in by... by

01:31.10
Vance 😈
Yeah, that's a year and some change ago. And some change.

01:34.07
Nandi K
I'm not gonna... This is exactly how I felt about Stranger Things coming back. I said, I don't care about those ugly children. They're not even cute anymore.

01:43.22
Vance 😈
Not the little homely kids. I said them, du the them, them, uh, them young men and women.

01:45.43
Nandi K
They're ugly now. They were cute when they were kids.

01:51.35
Nandi K
Yeah, don't nobody wanna to watch no young white young men and women and one of them's a little Zionist.

01:54.90
Vance 😈
Right. Uh, he's a Zionist, the little gay one. You need to pick a plight, young man.

01:59.10
Nandi K
Yeah, I'm not watching that. Mind you, the last season before wasn't that fucking good either.

02:06.97
Vance 😈
Yeah.

02:08.02
Nandi K
I did not watch.

02:08.01
Vance 😈
Nah.

02:09.54
Nandi K
And then the people were mad. I felt so justified.

02:12.15
Vance 😈
Of course. we, we, we gonna stay mad at a finale, but you know, they do be just dropping the ball. Uh, cause The Boys is having a similar thing right now. This season is trash, trash, sleepy,

02:21.40
Nandi K
I also gave up on that show last season because I thought last season was too gory. it was like gory for gory's sake. And y'all… there's a war There are multiple wars breaking out in real life. I literally was struggling to distinguish fake violence from like real violence that I was seeing on TikTok every day. So I bowed out after I said, I'm also, it wasn't good. The writing sucked. And I always feel vindicated when I say, I'm not watching that anymore. It sucked.

03:02.55
Vance 😈
Yeah, the boys. I mean, my joke has just been like ah the anime caught up with the manga. Because like, it's the it's one for one. What's happening outside? It's too much. like And I mean, that ain't the show's fault. in The real life is crazy. But it's the same thing. Like, it's crazy.

03:17.94
Nandi K
I mean that's what they're writing it about is real life

03:21.40
Vance 😈
Right. And it's the it's one for one, though. It's like, okay, I know this nigga could fly.

03:24.73
Nandi K
yeah yeah

03:25.64
Vance 😈
But it's the same thing as what's happening over here. Like, anyway. um What we talking about today?

03:32.18
Nandi K
Yeah, we're actually ah completely off topic from the intro.

03:35.99
Vance 😈
Yeah, yeah. Normally, we're it's the same.

03:37.22
Nandi K
We just wanted to have another conversation, but today we're actually going to talk a little bit about fatphobia. Boo!

03:46.27
Vance 😈
Boo, we hate her. Fat bitch!

03:48.52
Nandi K
She's ugly! um yeah and yeah, let's... First, let's give a trigger warning. This episode contains subject material that may be disturbing or upsetting, including mentions of fat phobia and disordered eating. Listener discretion is advised. So we're talking about fat phobia today.

Vance 😈
*Organ chimes* Fatphobia. The implicit and explicit bias of overweight individuals that is rooted in a sense of blame and presumed moral failing. Anti-fatness is intrinsically linked to anti-blackness, racism, classism, misogyny, and many other systems of oppression. *Organ chimes*

04:13.84
Nandi K
When is your like first thought? Because obviously the word fat phobia is kind of new-ish. But when is your like first encounter when you think you encounter fat phobia for the first time?

04:31.99
Vance 😈
Yeah, rough. So I don't know, because it's like any other ism in our society where it's just like pervasive. Right. It's everywhere. um i would have to say, like, I guess ah just a personal thing. i had an aunt like I think I talked about my aunt on this podcast before, Tova. um She died. The reason she died was because she had a bypass surgery.

04:55.02
Nandi K
Mm.

04:55.64
Vance 😈
So, you know, like all the reasons that will cause you to do something like that is fatphobia, right?

04:57.52
Nandi K
Mm. Yeah.

05:00.64
Vance 😈
So, um, obviously I didn't have the language for this, but I think that's always been something that's just like in the back of my brain.

05:06.97
Nandi K
Wow.

05:07.00
Vance 😈
And that happened when I was about 12 years, 10 years old. So, you know, I think that, and then like, mind you, I live in this world.

05:10.58
Nandi K
Well, yeah.

05:14.60
Vance 😈
So it's not like I don't hold fatphobic ideals or whatever. Right? Cause it's like, I grew up in this motherfucker, but

05:18.52
Nandi K
Sure.

05:21.88
Vance 😈
Like this this idea that like, oh, you need to lose weight to be better, like to be okay or be you even. It's like I push back against it because of that formative thing.

05:32.60
Vance 😈
But um what about you?

05:32.73
Nandi K
Always. Yeah.

05:34.68
Vance 😈
I know you've been like a champion. Like I think outside of reading and literacy and like love of the South, I think fat phobia is like one of your things.

05:43.64
Nandi K
Yeah. I don't think that growing up, I'm from the South, and I ah I think I always wanted to be...
more, I wanted to be bigger because when I was growing up, like the more curves, the better. Right. So like, and I grew up with like a lot of fat, big women with big booties, big thighs, big legs, big stomachs, big breasts. And I thought that was all great. It wasn't until I moved to New York, and I'm a thin person. So mind you, I'm a thin person. But when I moved to New York, it didn't matter when I was in the South. When I moved to New York, being thin was a scary type of currency.

06:37.91
Vance 😈
Hmm.

06:39.06
Nandi K
and Yeah, I had never thought about my weight before it's outside of people telling me I should gain weight, which I never felt no way. I wanted to gain weight. I'm like, you're right. I should gain weight. um I'm like, I agree with you. I want to gain weight. I want to get a stick to spot thicker, thicker, thicker. thicker but in In New York, it was the first time where I was meeting people, and specifically Black people, who were trying to be thin.

07:16.25
Vance 😈
I think there's something about metropolitan big cities. I mean, I'm I'm talking about California. I'm from Fresno, so that's a little country it's a little country, right?

07:23.70
Nandi K
Right. That's the country, yeah.

07:25.71
Vance 😈
But but I will say maybe California, like we... smaller in general, I don't know, or we, like, kind of hold that. We ain't Southern thick, right? Like, when I went to the South, I saw, like, thick people, like, whoo.

07:36.39
Nandi K
Mm-mm.

07:38.90
Vance 😈
But ah my I had a brother.

07:39.19
Nandi K
Yeah.

07:41.16
Vance 😈
I had a stepbrother growing up. He was bi-coastal, or, like, he lived in our house for a year, then his mom's house for a year, and they lived in St.Louis

07:46.67
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

07:48.76
Vance 😈
Louis.

07:50.03
Nandi K
Mm.

07:50.52
Vance 😈
And the culture difference in that was so funny because he would come to us and lose a bunch of weight. And kind of, like, he would, like, leave kind of, like, in a, like... just smaller than where he came, but it would be, like, quote-unquote more acceptable.

08:01.82
Nandi K
Wow.

08:03.74
Vance 😈
But then when he went over there, was eating them grits, and he would just get thick. And you could see the difference just, like, culturally. And then, like, his dad was pushing for him to be smaller, of course. And that was... I would see that all my life, like, that, like... come actually physically changing depending on his environment. And then, like, I used to be real skinny, like, as a little kid. And and I think maybe in sixth grade, like, I gained weight, and then everyone was always like, oh, you're fat, you know, this, this, and that. So that kind of fucked me up. So I was always, like, trying to, you know... And I've always been, like...

08:36.12
Nandi K
Yeah

08:38.39
Vance 😈
Even when I'm skinny, I got a little hefty... You know, got...

08:40.92
Nandi K
One of your best qualities, I'd say.

08:42.49
Vance 😈
Yeah, I got, like, a little thickness, you know?

08:44.60
Nandi K
ah little meat.

08:46.10
Vance 😈
Right? So, like, even...

08:46.82
Nandi K
A little meat on there.

08:48.34
Vance 😈
even in like high school, like I have broad shoulders.

08:48.73
Nandi K
cool

08:50.94
Vance 😈
So even if I was skinny, I had like a little bit of like, you know, like you can't knock me over easy, uh, no matter what decade I'm in.

08:51.83
Nandi K
Yes.

08:57.65
Nandi K
I know that's right.

08:57.86
Vance 😈
So, you know, that that's been the thing for me, but I'm also in the military and like the military is actively fat phobic. Like they're like, and,

09:06.29
Nandi K
For sure. I'm glad you brought this up because I wanted you to talk about this.

09:09.98
Vance 😈
Right. Well, so like I have been ever since I joined the military, I've been overweight. And if you look at pictures of me at like 18, 19, you would laugh hearing that like the language like, oh, he's overweight because I was skinny. um But for my height and my weight, it don't it don't add up to the scale.

09:29.63
Vance 😈
And I mean, you know, now that we're talking about it, that damn scale. Right. Like it's a white supremacist construct.

09:33.53
Nandi K
Fuck the scale.

09:35.02
Vance 😈
It's based on some white man and some white woman.

09:35.49
Nandi K
It's evil.

09:37.22
Vance 😈
And they not built like us literally like. And that's okay, but when you standardize it and say like, oh, this is what the ideal body should look like, that's crazy.

09:45.43
Nandi K
Yeah.

09:46.58
Vance 😈
And racist, and eugenics. But, um...

09:49.08
Nandi K
Listen, because they don't want us to have it, but also they want to recreate it in some ways. It's truly insane. And I mean the word insane.

09:58.94
Vance 😈
and

10:00.13
Nandi K
I actually do mean that.

10:00.66
Vance 😈
Right.

10:02.81
Nandi K
Not in an ableist way.

10:03.05
Vance 😈
Well, uh...

10:03.97
Nandi K
I mean the real word insane.

10:06.29
Vance 😈
Speak on that. I think I know what you're getting at, but

10:08.66
Nandi K
Yeah, yeah. But there's there's ah a few things. And I talk about, I think this is a big part of the feitization fetestage the fetishization

10:18.36
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm.

10:18.87
Nandi K
of black bodies. Because one thing we kind of haven't said, but is always going to kind of be implied there. This is a show for Black people. Fatphobia is directly anti-Black.
It's a response to Black bodies. White people used to also celebrate bigger women.
If you look at Greek statues, if you look at things from the Renaissance, from Italy, from all over Europe, those ladies had meat on their bones.

10:51.87
Vance 😈
Curvy.

10:55.15
Nandi K
Maybe when Black people came over...

10:58.66
Vance 😈
Phicc.

10:59.32
Nandi K
They saw them asses. They said, whoa.

11:01.11
Vance 😈
With that chariot. She on that.

11:04.06
Nandi K
And they're fucking and they rabbit asses was out here fucking sexually assaulting enslaved Black women. And those white women were like, what does she have that I don't know?

11:18.46
Nandi K
She doesn't own herself. That that's it. Like she doesn't own her. I mean, you barely own yourself either.

11:23.32
Vance 😈
age agency. Well, you have agency.

11:26.71
Nandi K
You have a little more agency than she does since she's treated like an animal.

11:28.89
Vance 😈
A little more.

11:31.03
Nandi K
But when we look at people like Sarah Bartman, who was brought over from South Africa, tricked into traveling to Europe, and then they put her basically in sideshows.
After she died, they put her on display.

11:45.30
Vance 😈
This, ah um,

11:48.32
Nandi K
Her body was on display until 2002. Sorry, excuse me, until 1974.

11:53.37
Nandi K
sorry excuse me until set nineteen seventy four

11:58.55
Vance 😈
um You talk about insane. That's insane. Like that's monstrous.

12:01.43
Nandi K
insane they're obsessed with us and also um I don't know if you watch the gilded age but when i was watching the Gilded Age on hbo which covers like the Gilded Age in new york city i love the costumes and i was looking at these bitches costumes and i was like these bitches are wearing bustles so they can look like they have big fat juicy asses that's what it's supposed to look like

12:16.92
Vance 😈
Yeah. Yeah.

12:26.17
Vance 😈
Um, uh, just the bustle is when like they got the corset, but then they got like the thing that kind of makes their booty.

12:32.89
Nandi K
The thing on the back. Yeah.

12:34.58
Vance 😈
Yeah. Like the, the bus.

12:35.74
Nandi K
Yeah.

12:36.02
Vance 😈
the Yeah. That's the boost.

12:37.30
Nandi K
The bustle on the back part.

12:37.37
Vance 😈
Yeah. Right. Like the, to make the booty look like a, yeah, a, a, a shelf, a chariot, a little wagon.

12:38.98
Nandi K
The bustle. Yeah. Yeah.

12:43.49
Nandi K
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

12:46.58
Vance 😈
Okay.

12:46.62
Nandi K
A chariot.

12:47.02
Vance 😈
No.

12:48.47
Nandi K
They want to look as if they are dragging a wagon.

12:49.10
Vance 😈
Yeah. Yeah.

12:54.39
Nandi K
Yeah. So, you know, it's kind of wild that, now Kim Kardashian is getting her ass taken out because now we're swinging back the other way.

13:06.37
Vance 😈
Is shei.

13:07.43
Nandi K
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

13:07.83
Vance 😈
Oh, yes.

13:08.27
Nandi K
She's been doing it for a while. She's getting her ass taken out, but white bitches are getting lip filler. It's just like Black women are getting BBLs now.

13:19.67
Vance 😈
Yeah. I'm knowing about this.

13:24.66
Vance 😈
Um...

13:24.95
Nandi K
Yes. Yes, we do know about this.

13:26.23
Vance 😈
The... Yeah. The... Another thing that's been just, like, really, like, I think one of the reasons I even wanted to talk about this was, like, Ozempic, right?

13:33.77
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

13:34.93
Vance 😈
Like...

13:35.49
Nandi K
Oh, God.

13:36.28
Vance 😈
I think the gay community, like, between drag queens and just the girls or whatever, um everybody's on...

13:40.39
Nandi K
Bro.

13:42.80
Vance 😈
Like, not everybody. I don’t want to be hyperbolic. But I know a lot of people that are on Olympic. And, like, I...

13:47.58
Nandi K
Yeah.

13:49.72
Vance 😈
i i I have... I'm concerned. And what I mean by that, and it's not fake concern either. um I'm concerned in that, like, if there becomes a drug where you can just be skinny if you take this drug, then, like, now there's going to be other associations with being thin, right? Where it's like… If you have enough money to be thin. So then it kind of becomes a class thing. And then because I think people's brains are like, bitch, why aren't you skinny if you can be? And that's crazy to me because I'm just like, well, like, you know, I just said, I just said, like, I have several things in my life that kind of have me be like, well, I just want to be me. And if I do want to lose weight, I'll do it Right. Like, I'll I'll go I'll go run and work out, do what I got to do.

14:29.24
Nandi K
Right. Right.

14:31.78
Vance 😈
And like, it might be slower, but like, I would rather do it that way than like take a

14:32.44
Nandi K
Right.

14:35.35
Nandi K
Sure.

14:36.15
Vance 😈
be looking crazy. Um, and I'm not saying everybody just Ozempic look crazy, but you know, they got them big, they, um, remember Char Jackson.

14:42.52
Nandi K
Lollipop heads.

14:44.67
Vance 😈
It's not Char Jackson, Char Jones. I'm Barbara Gordon from Abbott, but remember when she had that sir, uh, Jesse Jackson, like there was some, not Jesse Jackson who Al Sharpton, I'm really Barbara from, uh, yeah, well he,

14:46.94
Nandi K
Oh, yeah. Yep. I do.

14:52.82
Nandi K
Sharpton. Al Sharpton. You know he on it. He probably been on it for a minute.

15:00.08
Vance 😈
Oprah, but like the big old head and the little the little lollipop head.

15:02.68
Nandi K
Yeah.

15:03.80
Vance 😈
and I'm like, I don't want to be looking like that. And some people are just fat.

15:07.67
Nandi K
Yeah.

15:10.36
Vance 😈
Like,

15:11.77
Nandi K
And that's okay, right? Like there's nothing wrong with being fat. Being fat is good in a lot of cases. Like there's no direct health impacts on being fat. If you have health issues, you have health issues. And when you talk about Ozempic, I'm thinking specifically about a conversation that I saw a clip of months ago. This was probably last year. Kelly Clarkson and Whoopi Goldberg were on the Kelly Clarkson show. And they were both talking about being on Ozympic. And the conversation was like, I don't even get hungry anymore. An how amazing it is that they don't get hungry anymore. And as somebody has an eating disorder and has struggled with the eating disorder for quite a while, to hear people be like, I love it. I'm never hungry.

16:16.09
Nandi K
Reminds me of like why I'm such a like staunch anti-fat phobia advocate because I got down to like 80 something pounds and no one said anything to me. Nobody was like, yo, are you all right? Like, are you eating? Like one person was like, well, at least you're not fat. Mind you, they were not fat. They just felt fat because of fat phobia.

16:40.78
Vance 😈
Right.

16:42.99
Nandi K
Right.

16:43.29
Vance 😈
Right.

16:43.47
Nandi K
And that's like something it's like, yo, starving to death is not good.

16:52.36
Vance 😈
Right. Well.

16:53.21
Nandi K
Like, I can't wear a children's clothes. Also, you know, and my, my ass went away and

17:00.64
Vance 😈
I think that's a crime, to be honest. Like, you should be tried.

17:02.65
Nandi K
It was devastating. That was really what like woke me up And then I got on the scale, and then that was a real wake-up call. And I was like, oh, my God. And then my friend was like, at least you're not fat.

17:12.81
Nandi K
And I was like, oh, my God, no one understands.

17:13.69
Vance 😈
Yikes.

17:15.93
Nandi K
um She did later apologize, and she did eat a meal with me every day.

17:19.19
Vance 😈
Good.

17:21.00
Nandi K
She was very supportive. Would not have gotten through that time without her.

17:22.39
Vance 😈
Nice.

17:24.86
Nandi K
But like this is how... Fucked people are in the mind of like, I'm 27 years old. I weigh 88 pounds. I tell my friends, they say, at least you're not fat.

17:38.46
Vance 😈
Right. Congrats.

17:39.74
Nandi K
Insane in the membrane.

17:39.78
Vance 😈
Um, it It really, I mean, it really is. But like, I look even to the like, I got friends, if they losing weight, first of all, we need to stop commenting on people's weight.

17:50.18
Vance 😈
But if you my friend, I'm comment on what I want, because we're friends.

17:50.67
Nandi K
hmm.

17:51.28
Aaron Rand Freeman
Mm-hmm.

17:54.82
Vance 😈
So and what I mean by this is, I got friends where if I'm losing weight, or they're losing weight, I say, hey, are you losing weight on purpose?

18:02.52
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

18:02.75
Vance 😈
And then if they say, yeah, then I'm like, OK, yeah, I see it. Or right. But like if it's like, no, then it's like, oh, are you OK?

18:07.22
Nandi K
Yeah.

18:09.45
Vance 😈
Like, what's going on? But like, I think that like just reframing the idea of losing weight is automatically being good is like what we all need to be moving.

18:10.63
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

18:17.17
Vance 😈
Because it's like, yeah, if you're losing weight at a rapid rate and it's like, bitch, why are you losing weight?
18:17.95
Nandi K
Agree.

18:22.84
Vance 😈
Like, are you OK? And a lot of time it don't be that. And I think we need to hold space for that.

18:26.96
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

18:28.50
Vance 😈
Like, just because you're skinny doesn't mean you're healthy.

18:28.98
Nandi K
I agree.

18:30.74
Vance 😈
Sometimes it's a sign that you're not healthy, like that you're unwell. So, so again, like if you see someone losing weight and you know them, you are friends and you'll have a rapport, maybe just like frame it differently.

18:35.35
Nandi K
Preach.

18:43.15
Vance 😈
Cause like automatically congratulating someone for losing weight is crazy.

18:47.06
Aaron Rand Freeman
Mm-hmm.

18:47.32
Nandi K
Yeah, it's wild.

18:47.49
Vance 😈
Cause they might be sick or eating disorder.

18:48.95
Nandi K
Yeah, they might not be doing well. I think about Chadwick Boseman,

18:53.50
Vance 😈
I think about it all the time.

Nandi K
You know, where he didn't want anyone to know, but he was literally dying.

18:53.50
Vance 😈
I think about it all the time.

19:02.20
Nandi K
And people did actually talk shit about him while he was thin.

19:05.11
Vance 😈
I remember he went live.

19:07.22
Nandi K
Because it get it gets to a point, right? Like, it does get to, at first it's like, ooh, ooh.

19:10.04
Vance 😈
Right.

19:12.50
Nandi K
And then it gets to where they're like, oh, wait, hold on. Not this far.

19:16.15
Vance 😈
Right.

19:17.79
Nandi K
Absolutely.

19:18.14
Vance 😈
Right. And I mean, we're we're already running long, but like, I think Marvel is like a um an ah example right now, right?

19:23.86
Nandi K
Absolutely.

19:26.15
Vance 😈
How like the the male, like the male figure form, whatever you want to call it, they're kind of shifting what a male body looks like. And it's unrealistic. Like these niggas got muscles on muscles and they got, they got, they're being paid to look like that.
Right. But that's not what a normal man looks like.

19:41.27
Nandi K
Yeah.

19:43.18
Vance 😈
And, I remember, because you remember Michael B. Jordan got really big for that movie.

19:48.98
Nandi K
Yeah. Mm-hmm.

19:49.80
Vance 😈
We was all cheering. And then Chadwick, I mean, he's cut, but my nigga had cancer. He wasn't telling nobody.

19:55.54
Nandi K
yeah

19:56.22
Vance 😈
He was smaller.

19:57.30
Nandi K
yeah

19:57.38
Vance 😈
So there was already, he was being compared to another Black man on film, Body, right?

20:01.75
Nandi K
ha

20:02.34
Vance 😈
But then as the movie came out, when my man was getting more sick, I think the thing that happened, he posted a live, and they was in the comment section cooking him. And then he took the video down and then he died shortly after. And like, um, his wife recently, his wife recently commented on that.

20:17.09
Nandi K
Wow.

20:20.74
Vance 😈
And I'm like, well, that's why y'all need to stop.

20:20.85
Nandi K
Yeah, I saw that.

20:23.76
Vance 😈
That's why y'all need to, uh, maybe mind y'all's business.

20:23.90
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah.

20:25.96
Vance 😈
If it's not coming from a place of care. Demons.

20:26.61
Nandi K
yeah Yeah, and you can't truly care about somebody who you don't really know. you don't have You're not truly in community with. You're not in community with someone that you see online, right?

20:39.49
Vance 😈
Parassocial.

20:39.78
Nandi K
That's not your community. um I want to recommend some media related to fatphobia.

20:44.85
Vance 😈
What you got?

20:47.82
Nandi K
A couple of books, Fearing the Black Body, The Racial Origins of Fatphobia by Sabrina Springs. um This is ah basically a historical narrative from the Renaissance to now analyzing how fat phobia went from, be fat people went from being praised to we went to a culture of fat phobia.

21:10.58
Nandi K
And this was featured on an episode of The Nod, our favorite podcast, way back in the day.

21:13.91
Vance 😈
Nice. Nice. We love her.

21:16.95
Nandi K
And then also Belly of the Beast, The Politics of Anti-Fatness and Anti-Blackness by Deshaun L. Harrison. This takes on desirability politics.

21:27.47
Nandi K
I read this when it came out. And it's really good. And it also talks about the direct harms of anti-fatness and anti-Blackness.

21:38.55
Nandi K
um lastly watch Survival of the Thickest with Michelle Buteau just fat women getting loved and there's a lot of other fat women on that show um did you have any media yeah of course

21:43.37
Vance 😈
Love her.

21:48.31
Vance 😈
Did you, did do you watch it?

21:51.70
Vance 😈
Do I have any media? No, this anti, I'm trying to think.

21:55.93
Nandi K
I know i was thinking of some that were problematic i was like why did i get married

21:58.65
Vance 😈
Yeah, I, I, I literally thought about the clumps and why did I get married?

22:02.62
Nandi K
Oh, I thought about why did I get married with Jill Scott, where he made Sheila drive up the mountain.

22:05.85
Vance 😈
And Tyra Banks.

22:08.34
Nandi K
Tyra Banks, please.

22:10.63
Vance 😈
I feel like anytime you're wearing a fat suit, that's like an example of like maybe not because like making mockery of it.

22:16.38
Nandi K
Yeah.

22:17.59
Vance 😈
And yeah, but no, none of the positives. Survival of the Thick is the only one I've actually seen on here.

22:23.42
Nandi K
Yeah.

22:23.58
Vance 😈
And I love me some Michelle Buteau.

22:25.66
Nandi K
Yeah, she's such a cutie. All right, well, today's um episode is sponsored by Big Food. Don't let Big Ozempic steal your appetite. Eat today.

22:39.04
Vance 😈
Bitch, right. Could you imagine not having oxtails? Like, oh, I can only eat a half an oxtail.

22:43.90
Nandi K
No.

22:45.20
Vance 😈
I would cry. I would weep.

22:47.42
Nandi K
Now, that would save you some money now if you can only eat half an oxtail. But it's not worth it.

22:54.28
Vance 😈
But I can't see it. I just can't see a wor;d. I mean, mac and cheese. You probably shouldn't eat mac cheese all the time. But, like, bitch, the couple of times a year that you get to make some mac...

23:02.25
Nandi K
I don't.

23:07.35
Nandi K
A few times. We have it a few times.

23:08.86
Vance 😈
And you only get a couple bites.

23:11.77
Nandi K
ah

23:13.12
Vance 😈
I can't see it.

23:15.96
Nandi K
So sad.

23:17.11
Vance 😈
Big thanks to our audio producer and audio Adonis, Aaron Rand Freeman. I've been Vance Goh, and you can find me on Instagram and what's the other one? Threads at Sir bleep a thot.

23:30.01
Nandi K
And I'm Nandi K. You can find me on Instagram threads in blue sky at Nandi K-A-Y-Y-Y. And follow us on our new Instagram at right quick podcast.

23:42.10
Nandi K
Maybe we'll have some content coming up soon.

23:42.36
Vance 😈
That's right. Bye.

23:44.94
Nandi K
We'll see. Alright. Bye.