<v Speaker 1>Jerry, Katy and Josh six one hundred.

<v Speaker 2>Katie's gonna be talking about happiness. I feel like this

<v Speaker 2>kind of goes along with your story, Katie. They were

<v Speaker 2>talking about reducing stress in this story, and they say,

<v Speaker 2>if you really really want to reduce all your stress,

<v Speaker 2>what you should be doing is going out into the

<v Speaker 2>forest and sitting in a chair alone and listen to

<v Speaker 2>all the birds. Yeah. They say, just ten minutes of

<v Speaker 2>sitting in a forest listening to birds will ease so

<v Speaker 2>much stress. They say it's an incredibly low cost way

<v Speaker 2>to improve your mental health.

<v Speaker 1>I mean people been doing this for centuries. Absolutely, this

<v Speaker 1>is just connecting with nature and you know, ignoring all

<v Speaker 1>of the stresses.

<v Speaker 3>Is that life absolutely rings? You know.

<v Speaker 2>I noticed this when we were out up in Montana

<v Speaker 2>and Idaho and Yellowstone on our vacation. There were times

<v Speaker 2>when we were out in little areas where it was

<v Speaker 2>just like listen, yeah, and it was quiet, you just

<v Speaker 2>heard the birds. I was like, isn't this fantastic? Yeah,

<v Speaker 2>it's such like an old person, But it was also like,

<v Speaker 2>this is really nice. You're reconnecting with the earth. There's

<v Speaker 2>no traffic.

<v Speaker 1>Well, I think even young people can agree that when

<v Speaker 1>you disconnect yourself from everything the world's offering right now

<v Speaker 1>digital AI people stress like if you live in a city,

<v Speaker 1>you know, there's so much going on all the time.

<v Speaker 1>If you can just eliminate that and go be with

<v Speaker 1>your thoughts and nature and the birds.

<v Speaker 2>Like back to the roots of the earth.

<v Speaker 1>Even young people can agree that that lowers my stress

<v Speaker 1>just thinking about Yeah.

<v Speaker 2>I started whistling back to them and they started, it's

<v Speaker 2>very Disney. They started to dress me.

<v Speaker 3>They made your dress. I know exactly.

<v Speaker 2>That's how it all works in the world of happiness.

<v Speaker 1>It's funny you mentioned that because I agree with this

<v Speaker 1>first one. They say when you have experiences over material things,

<v Speaker 1>that definitely makes you Now. Experts looked at things here

<v Speaker 1>when it came to you know, genuinely content people and

<v Speaker 1>researchers have identified five specific things that kind of separate

<v Speaker 1>content people from everyone else and experiences over things.

<v Speaker 3>That's one of them.

<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

<v Speaker 1>I can relate to this because when I go hiking

<v Speaker 1>and I post all my stuff on social media, the

<v Speaker 1>richest people on my feet are like, oh my gosh,

<v Speaker 1>I can't believe you go and do that. You know,

<v Speaker 1>because they say when you have an experience that lasts

<v Speaker 1>with you so much longer than if you buy something

<v Speaker 1>that feeling it gives you when you buy something right, like,

<v Speaker 1>you get excited at first, but then that goes away.

<v Speaker 1>But the experience is something that will last you for

<v Speaker 1>a really long time.

<v Speaker 2>Something that I've explained that to my kids, Because experiences

<v Speaker 2>and things like that make you a much more well

<v Speaker 2>rounded person. Is Yeah, you're able to carry on conversations

<v Speaker 2>about things and like if people bring up random things

<v Speaker 2>like the lady who just called about the Wisconsin Dells, Yeah,

<v Speaker 2>I've been there, done that, let's talk about it. And

<v Speaker 2>I can't tell it makes you more of a well

<v Speaker 2>rounded person.

<v Speaker 1>How many people reach out to me about waterfalls, like Deainly,

<v Speaker 1>I get people send me videos places I can see waterfalls.

<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm not kidding.

<v Speaker 1>Daily people send me stuff because they know how much

<v Speaker 1>I like to do it, how much happiness it brings me.

<v Speaker 3>Prioritizing relationships. This one's interesting because.

<v Speaker 1>They got a group of elderly people together and they

<v Speaker 1>ask them, looking back on your life, what's something that

<v Speaker 1>you wish you paid more attention to?

<v Speaker 3>And that's what they said. They're like, you know, life

<v Speaker 3>throws at you so.

<v Speaker 1>Many things, good and bad, and what helps you get

<v Speaker 1>through it are the people in your life. But you

<v Speaker 1>know it works on the flip side there too. They're

<v Speaker 1>saying that that's such a good point because they're saying

<v Speaker 1>the bad people are just as bad for you. So

<v Speaker 1>the toxic relationships getting those out of that's part of

<v Speaker 1>it as well.

<v Speaker 2>I'm at that stage. I am at that stage where

<v Speaker 2>I've removed people that really just do nothing for me.

<v Speaker 2>I know that sounds that phrase bad, but it's like

<v Speaker 2>they do nothing for me. I don't need to be

<v Speaker 2>around them. You need to think that I met them away.

<v Speaker 1>What serves you like it's okay to say that, you know,

<v Speaker 1>it's okay, yeah, right, okay.

<v Speaker 2>This is another note though, I want all new people.

<v Speaker 2>Do you I have talked to my wife about this

<v Speaker 2>numerous times over the past year. I want new people.

<v Speaker 2>I just want new people in my life group. How

<v Speaker 2>do you find it? I need new people and I

<v Speaker 2>think we need to move out of state. I want

<v Speaker 2>to start fresh and I just want new people, all

<v Speaker 2>new people, top to bottom.

<v Speaker 3>There's a statement I know that I.

<v Speaker 2>Know I can't be alone in that. I'm just by

<v Speaker 2>entire bubble everybody. Not my family, I love you, Mom

<v Speaker 2>and ed not my family, but like just my bubble

<v Speaker 2>of everybody. I want you all new people.

<v Speaker 1>I have moved to different locations multiple times in my life,

<v Speaker 1>and there's something to be said for starting over, starting

<v Speaker 1>from scratch, keeping the relationships that mean something to you.

<v Speaker 1>But it's okay to you know, move on to another

<v Speaker 1>point in your life and get some you know.

<v Speaker 2>All new people.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can't hate on that. I can't hate on that.

<v Speaker 1>All new drama from New All new drama. Speaking of drama,

<v Speaker 1>this one, I couldn't believe it. So they say a

<v Speaker 1>high salary is.

<v Speaker 3>Not the ultimate goal.

<v Speaker 1>And in fact, so this study was done about sixteen

<v Speaker 1>years ago. So the perfect salary, the window for the

<v Speaker 1>perfect salary, they said sixteen years ago was seventy to

<v Speaker 1>ninety thousand dollars a year.

<v Speaker 2>So what would it be now, That's what I was thinking, Like.

<v Speaker 3>One to one thirty is probably where it falls.

<v Speaker 1>And they say it's because once you get over that,

<v Speaker 1>you really consume.

<v Speaker 3>Yourself with your job.

<v Speaker 1>People who make that much money all they do is work,

<v Speaker 1>and that takes away your happiness. So they're saying if

<v Speaker 1>you know, truly happy people. Again, happiness is not just money, Jeremy,

<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that one, and no, I one

<v Speaker 1>hundred percent agree. Really, if you're spending, if you spend

<v Speaker 1>sixteen hours a day, that's not healthy.

<v Speaker 3>That's how you make in one hundred thousand dollars.

<v Speaker 2>Not necessary I disagree with. But not necessary.

<v Speaker 1>So they say high paying jobs are all consuming.

<v Speaker 3>It really does, and I would agree with this. I

<v Speaker 3>agree that there's valuing time over money is very important.

<v Speaker 2>There's a different logic behind that. They say, the more

<v Speaker 2>money that you make, you actually earn your time back

<v Speaker 2>because you're able to hire an accountant, a house cleaner,

<v Speaker 2>somebody to do your lawn.

<v Speaker 4>You.

<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's true. Who's mister wonderful what's his name? Oh

<v Speaker 2>N talks about this a lot. The more money you make,

<v Speaker 2>you actually are able to buy your time buy. You

<v Speaker 2>are buying your time back because you have people to

<v Speaker 2>do things, the mundane things for you, essentially, and you

<v Speaker 2>gain that time back.

<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna listen to Biggie and you'reney.

<v Speaker 2>Your money starts making money as well. Yeah, you make okay,

<v Speaker 2>I know.

<v Speaker 3>That you too.

<v Speaker 1>Both think this because you value money a lot more

<v Speaker 1>than I do. But they say, here's the thing.

<v Speaker 3>They say that this specifical story, I.

<v Speaker 2>Value it, but I'm incredibly smart with it too, well said,

<v Speaker 2>do you use money?

<v Speaker 3>Okay?

<v Speaker 1>A Harvard study followed a thousand students after graduation. They

<v Speaker 1>said that those who went into the workforce and valued

<v Speaker 1>time more than money tended to be happier when surveyed

<v Speaker 1>later in their career. That didn't mean they took lazy,

<v Speaker 1>low pressure opportunities. It meant that they had a line

<v Speaker 1>at which the pursuit of money wasn't worth the sacrifice.

<v Speaker 3>And so that's what they're talking about there.

<v Speaker 1>The line where they're like, this just isn't worth it anymore,

<v Speaker 1>and they understood the balance.

<v Speaker 3>What is the balance in this?

<v Speaker 1>But so that one, I guess you could take it

<v Speaker 1>with a grain of salt because it depends on how

<v Speaker 1>much you value money.

<v Speaker 3>Also, you take care of yourself. They're saying that.

<v Speaker 1>People who are truly happy actually care about the things

<v Speaker 1>that matter, the basic stuff, eating healthy, exercising and getting

<v Speaker 1>enough sleep. So those things they say that you know,

<v Speaker 1>people who you know, make sure that those things are

<v Speaker 1>in check for them, they tend to be happier.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so those are good five things, five good things.

<v Speaker 2>I should we go back a couple hours and talking

<v Speaker 2>about all that lard that you answered that's one day

<v Speaker 2>out of but you're happy with it actually made you

<v Speaker 2>really really hard.

<v Speaker 3>Made me happy exactly, But so did the mango.

<v Speaker 2>There you go. It's all about Belli.

<v Speaker 3>It's all about Bellan.

<v Speaker 2>I'm bringing some smiles to your face today. Jk J

<v Speaker 2>mixed one hundred. It's from Benji. I wrote back, and

<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, yeah, Benji, and he's out in Morrison,

<v Speaker 2>So Benji from Morrison. He says, I got a dilemma.

<v Speaker 2>About a month ago. I proposed to my girlfriend and

<v Speaker 2>she said yes. Everything was amazing, and I thought we

<v Speaker 2>were starting the next chapter of our lives. I gave

<v Speaker 2>her the receipt for the engagement ring that I got

<v Speaker 2>for her. She said, oh, thanks. She shoved it into

<v Speaker 2>her purse and said, I'm gonna file this away and

<v Speaker 2>make sure everything is documented for insurance purposes, which is

<v Speaker 2>incredibly reasonable. Right, something happens. You got the receipt for

<v Speaker 2>the ring. He goes on to say something about yes,

<v Speaker 2>she'd get to it later because she did shove it

<v Speaker 2>in a purse. Then he goes on in this message,

<v Speaker 2>and he says, about a week later, she came home

<v Speaker 2>and told me something I wasn't expecting. She had stopped

<v Speaker 2>by the jewelry store where I had purchased the ring.

<v Speaker 2>She says, just to look around, as the quote, and

<v Speaker 2>she found another engagement ring while she was there that

<v Speaker 2>she actually liked a whole lot more. And the jeweler

<v Speaker 2>told her that she could exchange the one I gave

<v Speaker 2>her for a new one, so she did. Oh, she

<v Speaker 2>flip flopped the rings. Now, he goes on to say, well,

<v Speaker 2>she wasn't trying to hide it. She told me that

<v Speaker 2>day and she said she hoped I wasn't upset, but

<v Speaker 2>she just saw this ring, fell in love with it,

<v Speaker 2>and she kind of liked it better. Here's why I'm struggling.

<v Speaker 2>It's not really about the ring. I want her to

<v Speaker 2>love what she's got to wear for the rest of

<v Speaker 2>her life. If she had come to me and said,

<v Speaker 2>can we pick out a different ring together, that would

<v Speaker 2>have been better. I probably would have been fine with it.

<v Speaker 2>What bothers me is that she made the decision without me.

<v Speaker 2>It felt like something that was supposed to be our

<v Speaker 2>moment suddenly became her decision. I put a lot of

<v Speaker 2>thought into choosing that ring and to kind of shrug

<v Speaker 2>it off and swap it out with even not even

<v Speaker 2>talking to me first, He's like, that ain't cool. Now

<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering, is this how we handle big decisions from

<v Speaker 2>here on out? Is this what's gonna happen before we're

<v Speaker 2>even married, what happens when we buy a house? Is

<v Speaker 2>she gonna flip flop on that, raising kids, flip flop

<v Speaker 2>on that? Am I making way too much out of this?

<v Speaker 2>Or is this a red flag about how she's gonna

<v Speaker 2>handle the decisions in our marriage? What should I do?

<v Speaker 2>And that's from Benji out in Morrison. If you have

<v Speaker 2>thoughts on this three oh three six nine one one

<v Speaker 2>mix three oh three six nine one sixteen forty nine.

<v Speaker 2>This is nutty to who does that? Who goes into

<v Speaker 2>a jewelry store and just bops out the engagement ring?

<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't think she meant to do that, but

<v Speaker 1>once the option was there, listen, she has to wear

<v Speaker 1>that for the rest of their relationship at least, so

<v Speaker 1>I can see both sides of this one.

<v Speaker 2>I what I was gonna say.

<v Speaker 5>On the other hand, Katie like as someone who's possibly

<v Speaker 5>thinking about doing something like this relatively soon, like I

<v Speaker 5>would feel kind of slighted. I would feel kind of upset, like, Oh,

<v Speaker 5>you didn't like all the time, thought, money and everything

<v Speaker 5>that I put into that.

<v Speaker 3>You know, I understand.

<v Speaker 2>I understand again a lot of that.

<v Speaker 3>I can see both sides.

<v Speaker 1>But he doesn't have to wear it, like she's the

<v Speaker 1>one who's gonna have to wear it. But and so

<v Speaker 1>I just to say she's going become a guy's point

<v Speaker 1>of view, I know, But to say she's gonna do

<v Speaker 1>it about the house and the kids and everything else

<v Speaker 1>is crazy, like that doesn't apply to just her.

<v Speaker 2>But why didn't she Why did she just happen to

<v Speaker 2>make her way into that jewelry store too, like she

<v Speaker 2>was on a mission. She should have spoke up to, Oh,

<v Speaker 2>you don't just happen to wander into the same jewelry

<v Speaker 2>store with the receipt in your person without alterior motives.

<v Speaker 3>I think maybe, I don't know, that's.

<v Speaker 2>Not spontaneous, right, You didn't just wander into a Jared's,

<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure, or Shaneko or what are the biggies?

<v Speaker 2>Hi Dana Banana morning? All right? So Is this a

<v Speaker 2>red flag? Was this cool?

<v Speaker 6>It's a giant red flag and he knows it. That's

<v Speaker 6>why he wrote. Yeah, he's got a nagging voice. There's

<v Speaker 6>other red flags. He just needs someone to speak into that.

<v Speaker 6>Like people need to listen to their intuition. So, you know,

<v Speaker 6>do you.

<v Speaker 2>Think he should just cut and run at this point?

<v Speaker 6>Absolutely? Whoa What a story she came up with. I mean,

<v Speaker 6>she talked to all of her girlfriends, you know, like

<v Speaker 6>this was calculated and planned and carried out and then

<v Speaker 6>told to him as if he's a dumb puppy, he

<v Speaker 6>can be a dumb puppy smart.

<v Speaker 5>You know it?

<v Speaker 1>She was.

<v Speaker 2>You know what, you kind of made a good point.

<v Speaker 2>Maybe she did start showing girlfriends and family or whatever,

<v Speaker 2>and they're like, yeah.

<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

<v Speaker 2>If you're a white gold type of person, you.

<v Speaker 6>Know, it's not easy to swap out a diamond ring

<v Speaker 6>at any jewelers. It's not easy. It's a thing. Yeah,

<v Speaker 6>it's also I mean, she didn't show her girlfriends that way.

<v Speaker 6>She showed them like, oh my god.

<v Speaker 3>But if she.

<v Speaker 1>Doesn't like it, she has no say in that. She's

<v Speaker 1>got to wear this ring she hates for the rest

<v Speaker 1>of her life.

<v Speaker 6>She has total say she just treated her fiance like

<v Speaker 6>a dumb puppy.

<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's kind of that's my thing too, Like, I'm

<v Speaker 2>fine if she didn't like it, have the conversation with me.

<v Speaker 2>Let's go get something that you're gonna adore for the

<v Speaker 2>rest of your life.

<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

<v Speaker 1>Him, clearly he didn't have a conversation with her before

<v Speaker 1>he got the ring, otherwise.

<v Speaker 3>She would have liked it. Yeah.

<v Speaker 2>Do you always have the conversation?

<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

<v Speaker 2>I did with Nick Knak. We went in the jewelry

<v Speaker 2>stores and I was like, what do you like? Yeah, Danna,

<v Speaker 2>thank you. I have your vote for Red Flag and Run.

<v Speaker 2>We really appreciate you calling in. Here's Marky Mark, Hi Mark, Hello, Psych,

<v Speaker 2>Hi Clara, Welcome to the show. Hi, hey girl, red

<v Speaker 2>Flag bad idea? What do you think?

<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of offense about it because I do see

<v Speaker 4>both sides. Like Katie said, I do think it is

<v Speaker 4>suspicious that she went there to the jeweler store in

<v Speaker 4>the first place, because, like the last color said, that's

<v Speaker 4>not something that just happens, Like she didn't just wander in.

<v Speaker 4>Definitely premeditated, and I think she has a right to

<v Speaker 4>you know, obviously pick out what ring she wanted, and

<v Speaker 4>whether or not she had communicated that prior, Like maybe

<v Speaker 4>it's on Benji. Maybe he didn't actually listen to what

<v Speaker 4>she said, like, oh, I told you I like gold,

<v Speaker 4>you got silver. You know, we don't know the whole situation. Yeah,

<v Speaker 4>but I do think that's that's something she should have

<v Speaker 4>communicated to him.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And it does seem kind of shady that she

<v Speaker 4>went behind his back and kind of like played it off.

<v Speaker 4>So are you Maybe maybe she was trying to spare

<v Speaker 4>her feelings though, you know, in her defense, maybe she

<v Speaker 4>just thought that like, oh, he'd feel really hurt if

<v Speaker 4>you know, he spent a less time picking it out

<v Speaker 4>and I told him like straight up, like, hey, I

<v Speaker 4>actually don't like it. I think that would maybe she

<v Speaker 4>was trying to push into his feelings.

<v Speaker 2>I feel like that would have been even though it

<v Speaker 2>sucks either way, that would have been the more gentle

<v Speaker 2>way to do it, versus just showing up with something

<v Speaker 2>completely different even though it's a conversation.

<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they didn't communicate.

<v Speaker 4>I don't think necessarily this has to be a deal breaker.

<v Speaker 4>I think, you know, I think if there's other things

<v Speaker 4>that are going on and this is kind of a trend.

<v Speaker 4>Then maybe yes, that's something concerning.

<v Speaker 2>Am I putting you under red Flag? Talk about this

<v Speaker 2>or cut and run?

<v Speaker 4>I think red Flag would talk about it. Okay, I think,

<v Speaker 4>you know, I think they have that genuine conversation and

<v Speaker 4>you know, maybe she admits like, hey, I didn't want

<v Speaker 4>to hear your feeling. Sorry it this is you know,

<v Speaker 4>I got in a little too deep and this is

<v Speaker 4>what And you know, I think they can move forward

<v Speaker 4>from this. I don't think it's a deal breaker, but

<v Speaker 4>I got in there.

<v Speaker 7>And need to have a conversation everything.

<v Speaker 3>It was just so sparkling exactly.

<v Speaker 2>I couldn't control myself. Before I knew it, I walked

<v Speaker 2>out with a different ring. All right, Clara, thank you

<v Speaker 2>so much for the call. I got two red flags

<v Speaker 2>right now and we will go to Tracy. Hi, Tracy, Hey,

<v Speaker 2>how are you all?

<v Speaker 1>Well?

<v Speaker 2>We're super dupes. We we love these segments because it's

<v Speaker 2>like so juicy for us that we deal with other

<v Speaker 2>people's problems, you know.

<v Speaker 7>Fight as songs that are not your own.

<v Speaker 2>I know that's what makes it fun. Okay, So what

<v Speaker 2>are your thoughts on this guy's situation and what's your advice.

<v Speaker 7>So kudos to him for the effort in trying to

<v Speaker 7>like get a ring on his own. But I was

<v Speaker 7>given a ring as an engagement once and the ring

<v Speaker 7>just didn't feel like me at all. And I had

<v Speaker 7>actually needed paperwork, you know, to go get it insured.

<v Speaker 7>When I went to the jewelry store where the box

<v Speaker 7>was from, they said that they didn't carry that. Later

<v Speaker 7>I found out that that ring was not even meant

<v Speaker 7>for me.

<v Speaker 6>It was a reused rink.

<v Speaker 7>Perfect sense why it didn't feel like me. But I

<v Speaker 7>would like to make a suggestion to all the men

<v Speaker 7>out there. If you're going to get married, and you

<v Speaker 7>have been talking about getting married, why not have like

<v Speaker 7>three jewelry stores that you choose and you tell your

<v Speaker 7>future fiance to go pick out two or three rings

<v Speaker 7>at each store, and then the guy gets to pick

<v Speaker 7>one of those rings that she already chose if she.

<v Speaker 2>Likes perfect, absolutely perfect. That It's very similar with what

<v Speaker 2>I did with my wife, where we went to the

<v Speaker 2>jewelry store and I was like, just show me, give

<v Speaker 2>me five that really catch your eye and then I'll

<v Speaker 2>go from there type of thing. Yeah, And then I

<v Speaker 2>went to Cole's and got one that looked very similar

<v Speaker 2>for way Less, Way Less, Jem.

<v Speaker 7>Sorry, the red flag, I don't think it's a red

<v Speaker 7>flag at all. I think it's like more like a

<v Speaker 7>yellow And like the other caller said, if there's other

<v Speaker 7>things that have been going on that this is just

<v Speaker 7>a you know, like the cherry on top. The communication

<v Speaker 7>is key in all relationships, and so just talk about

<v Speaker 7>it and see how each other was feeling.

<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's good. Just talk it out. Believe it or not,

<v Speaker 2>that usually works.

<v Speaker 3>Have a conversation.

<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have a whole lifelong marriage. Now you got

<v Speaker 2>to learn to talk to each other. Tracy, we have

<v Speaker 2>your vote, thank you so very much. Well, right now

<v Speaker 2>it's two to one, so in favor of red flag.

<v Speaker 2>I think it's a little bit of a red flag.

<v Speaker 2>But I'm kind of with our callers. Just sit down,

<v Speaker 2>let's talk this out. Okay. I think that's gonna be

<v Speaker 2>your best move.

<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's gonna be the at least step one and

<v Speaker 1>go from there. But you need to have a conversation

<v Speaker 1>for sure, and say, please.

<v Speaker 2>Don't do this again, like loop me in on big

<v Speaker 2>decisions like this.

<v Speaker 3>Please yes,