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Yeah,

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Right off the bat,

I want to give a shout out and

a hat tip to my man Raul.

He's in the chat right now,

Raul Firmamental.

He's been such a blessing in my life

in so many different ways and an

extraordinary guy.

And can't wait.

You know,

he's got a really cool YouTube channel.

Raul,

put it in the chat if you would,

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I'll be honest.

He probably doesn't know this,

but I'm a big fan of his work.

I'm a big fan of both of his

podcasts.

And once again,

Raul was the guy who turned me on

to him.

And it was a fact hunter.

And that's one podcast.

And then Flat Earth Files is the other.

But he's also an author.

We're going to come to that here in

a little bit.

But his name is George Hobbs, folks.

And I highly suggest everybody.

I'm telling you,

it's the one of the best podcasts out

there you don't know about.

And if you're into finding out the

esoteric meaning to all this nonsense

that's going out there and you want to

hear from a Christian perspective.

There's no better person out there than

George Hobbs.

And George,

it is a joy and a pleasure to

have you on.

Thanks, bro.

Billy, thanks for having me.

And yeah, shout out to Raul.

He's such a good man.

We chat every day and just blessed that

he was able to connect us together.

Yeah, it's – oh, my goodness, man.

It is definitely a joy to have Raul

out there.

So, Raul,

make sure everybody behaves in the chat.

And, folks, you know the deal out there.

Don't get crazy.

Don't get weird.

Otherwise, some of our – not censors,

but anyway,

the people monitoring what's going on

there will definitely take you down.

So, yeah, somebody says,

Mark Levin does not approve this message.

No, he would not.

No, he would not.

Not on any level.

So, George, you know,

every superhero has an origin story.

So, you know,

for all those out there discovering you

for the first time,

why don't you tell us a little bit

about your background before you got into

podcasting?

Yeah, sure.

I mean, I'm fifty seven now,

so the origin story goes back quite a

way.

But to give you the Cliff Notes version,

I was born and raised in the suburbs

of Wilmington, Delaware.

Just a normal, you know, upbringing.

My father was blue collar.

He was a mailman.

And all the...

All of our family before my father and

everybody else all served in the military,

World War II, Korea, World War I,

all the way back to the Civil War.

And so for me,

it wasn't a matter if I was going

to join the military, it was when.

And I think it was six weeks after

I graduated high school,

I got off the bus at Fort Leonard

Wood, Missouri.

and um did that and i was in

the delaware national guards i started off

my the first part of my career in

the national guards because you know in

the national guards you don't get deployed

it's just for state emergencies and then

my daughter was born on august second

nineteen ninety so we're literally in the

hospital delivering a baby and the news

comes on that this saddam hussein guy just

invaded

Kuwait and I'm like, where's Iraq?

And the Lord's like,

I'm going to show you.

And, you know, we got activated.

My father's unit got activated.

We were both in the Delaware guards,

but we were in separate units.

And we went over there, and it was,

you know, in a sports term,

it was a blowout, obviously.

And if you remember back,

I don't know how many of you all

are in my age group,

but the spin-up to the war was like

they were the third greatest military in

the world.

These guys couldn't even maintain their

Humvees.

I mean,

their story to get us all ramped up

to go in there was just a joke,

and we realized that pretty quickly.

But

My father, we both came home.

I had some issues, not so major,

but my father had some very major issues,

health issues,

and the VA denied his service.

And all that was going on.

Are you familiar with the Naira Al-Sabah

story?

No.

I know the name,

but I don't know the story.

So if you remember back before we actually

started the war,

so it was during the Desert Shield time.

Is this the girl?

Yeah.

He's in the incubators.

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah.

Okay.

I know exactly who you're talking about.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So she's crying in front of Congress

saying that she witnessed all these Iraqi

soldiers pull babies out of incubators.

Well, in nineteen ninety two, you know,

Nightline runs the story about how the

whole thing was made up and that the

girl who testified,

she was actually the daughter to the

Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States.

And she hadn't even been to Kuwait in

a decade.

And there was ten million dollars spent on

her to coach her up to act that

way.

And my dad was

I don't want to say devastated,

but he felt really, you know,

between the VA not taking care of him

and, you know,

that lie to get people's emotions up to

lead us into war.

And he had to retire from the post

office because he was debilitated.

His knee was jacked up.

And again, you're a letter carrier.

You're out there pounding the pavement all

day.

And he ended up being testifying in front

of President Clinton's Gulf War syndrome.

If you go back on C-SPAN,

I think it was August,

nineteen ninety four ninety five.

He was the first one to speak and

he didn't really have a great.

His health really deteriorated and he

suffered towards the end of his life and

he passed before covid and it caused me

to move.

I guess I should add in.

got out of the guards,

joined active duty in the mid-nineties.

And, you know,

I did Operation Joint Forge,

which was in Hungary and Croatia and

Sarajevo.

But then nine eleven happened and I was

a normie back at the time and I

was all ramped up,

ready to go to defend our country.

And then again,

you cross the berm and it was at

March or April of two thousand three.

And it was ninety one all over again.

These people were like, Mr. Mr. Food.

And it was just

and then there's no weapons of mass

destruction and then well why are we still

here are we going home well no you're

going to stay here for a year because

this and that and then i ended up

doing four tours fifty um fifty one months

in total from two thousand to three to

two thousand eleven i was in iraq every

calendar year and you see all the things

that go on i i was privy to

some pretty big contracts and i started to

understand the military industrial complex

If you all have never read a book

by Smedley Butler called War is a Racket,

I can vouch for you that war is

a racket,

but it always comes at our expense.

The people at the top,

like that clown show that went on in

D.C.

today, you had all the people that,

you know, Fauci's going to get arrested.

Today is the day.

No, it's not.

And even Trump came out a couple hours

ago and he's like, well, you know, Biden,

pardon him.

We can't do anything with him.

It's a clown show when we're always part

of our own demise.

And after I retired, Billy,

I started to take the time and unpack

all of the things that I saw and

dealt with over the last twenty years.

even interactions with General Petraeus

and the contracts I had seen and just

seeing the horrors of war and the price

that were paid.

And then you start asking questions, well,

why did fifty eight thousand people die in

Vietnam?

And then you look at the whole Gulf

of what was it called?

The Gulf of Tonkin.

That was all a lie.

And you go back through history and you

understand there's two sides to every

story.

That's why history is called his story.

And then you just keep peeling the layers.

And I started to get into like William

Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse and all those

other kind of books.

All the while,

my Bible's like sitting right next to me

collecting dust.

And all the while I'm doing these rabbit

holes, whether it's nine eleven, Waco,

Oklahoma City,

they all kind of converged back to the

same good versus evil.

And then you start to look at the

spiritual side of things.

And you understand this is all in the

Bible.

We're living it as we, you know,

eat and breathe.

And I started focusing more on that.

And then I really started to understand

where we are in the world and the

lives that have been perpetuated upon us.

And much of it, again,

is our own problem because we listen to

people instead of looking for ourselves.

For instance, look at twenty twenty.

We had the internet in twenty twenty.

People could look up the history of

vaccinations.

And even if you are a person who

supports vaccinations,

you would know that it normally takes

twelve or fifteen years for a vaccination

to go through all the tests,

all the trials.

And nine months later,

whom we have these magical vaccines.

And listen,

if you have a magical elixir brother that

can fix anything,

you don't have to give it away.

You don't have to give it away with

burgers and joints and all these other

things.

People will want something that works.

And once you started to see people

pressing you and threatening you and,

you know,

it came to me very clearly that we

weren't going anywhere near this stuff.

And in twenty twenty,

which was I don't know about you, Billy,

but even with the combat involved,

twenty twenty was the most evil year of

my life witnessing

You know,

people die without allowing their loved

ones next to them.

Only one person can be in the room.

You have to be six feet away.

And my wife,

who was a registered nurse in a hospital,

You know,

it was her face that many people saw

as they died when it should have been

their family members.

And my wife, you know,

and all the other nurses were hailed as

heroes.

And then the next year when she refused

the jab, they made her wear not one,

but two masks.

So it was this humiliation ritual.

So people could see, you know,

they're the ones who won't get the

vaccine.

And she ended up having to leave her

job.

But you know what?

We didn't cry.

We didn't complain because she still has

her health intact to this very day.

And, you know,

And that's when you get to the spiritual

side of things is, man,

this world we live in,

there's going to be many trials,

many tribulations.

But if you have faith in Christ,

you know that this is just a journey,

not a destination.

And it's going to take strong men to

stand up and speak the truth.

And it's not comfortable all the time.

I speak a lot of truth,

and I think people are going to be

really receptive to it,

and I get shut down.

But if you know it's the truth and

you have the biblical text to support it,

you need to speak the truth.

that's about as mic drop as it's ever

going to get oh my goodness um okay

let me back up a little bit george

i'm going to say a word and it's

going to tell me whether or not you

and i had the same mos essayons so

my first uh i reclassed but yes

Engineers, baby.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

I'm not sure.

I think they're twenty fives.

Maybe now they reclass them.

But I went to Fort Leonard Wood, brother.

Nineteen eighty seven.

Yeah.

I had to go there twice.

It's the second time for sapper school,

but, uh, yeah.

Yeah.

Oh yeah.

So yeah.

Two times, you know,

little Korea over there in Leonard woods.

So anyway, that's, uh, that's cool, man.

I knew I liked you.

I knew I liked you for more than

one reason.

Okay.

All right.

Same MOS.

I'm sure we got a whole lot of

other things in common too.

Um,

Wow.

Let's kind of kick over to your podcast

and then we'll eventually circle around to

your book, folks.

I wanted George on here for a whole

variety of reasons.

I've been, you know,

we kind of keep missing each other and

also the powers that shouldn't be keep

playing with my email as I've been telling

everybody forever in a day.

I'll get this junk email all day,

but you know,

I can't get George's email.

I can't get, um, you know, Oh shoot.

Yeah.

What, who was the email I got?

Oh, it was kind of important.

It came from Dane Wigington.

He's asking me to do a little bit

of an experiment out here and it shows

up sick.

It's dated six days behind when it

actually showed up.

So it was no longer relevant by the

time I got it.

So apparently it's happening to Dane.

It's happening to a number of others out

there.

Anyway, George, um,

I got to ask you, I mean, man,

I can already tell there's so many nuggets

you dropped there that I just want to

pick apart.

But I'm going to ask you about your

podcast, at least the first one,

then we'll go into the second one here

in a moment.

it seems almost a rhetorical question to

ask, but I got to ask,

what made you decide to go into the

podcasting game when there, it seems,

everybody says it's saturated with way too

many people out here.

I don't necessarily agree.

I just think there are,

you will find what it is you're looking

for.

And like Raul brought me to you,

and you bring a lot of the same

information,

but from a slant that I'm going to

relate a whole lot more to,

I got to know what,

what made you think, okay, man, I'm,

you know, out of the military,

I'm retired.

Got all this other stuff going on.

Was it just something to do in retirement

or what made you, what brought you there?

I think it's two part.

You know, the transition,

anytime you have a major transition in

life, it's very difficult.

Even it's not just military.

If you work at the same factory for

thirty years, you know,

you have the same routine.

And when something like that changes,

it's a bit of a journey to figure

out where you're going from there.

Now, some people in the military,

they do their twenty,

twenty five years and they just transition

to the next thing.

For me, you know, I had

I wanted to get into the business world.

And again, we all have our journeys.

And I made some great friends and learned

a lot of life lessons.

And all that time,

it certainly gave me to do research when

I'm working seventy five hours a week in

my retail store.

But, you know,

when you start coming on these truths and

I know everybody who's in this truth

community knows exactly what I'm talking

about.

When you go up to somebody and say,

hey,

have you heard about Operation Popeye?

This cloud seeding thing's been going on

since Vietnam.

Or, hey, did you know this about Waco?

Or, of course,

the big one nobody knows about,

which ties in with the dispensationalism

book, like the USS Liberty.

People weren't interested.

All the friends that I've had,

even buddies who I went downrange with

several times,

they just weren't interested in it.

So for me,

it was therapeutic to be able to sit.

I was never comfortable.

You know, when you go to the VA,

you got to see the psychiatrist.

And I never felt comfortable talking to a

stranger about my problems.

When I started sitting behind a microphone

and talking,

I felt like I was talking to like

an unfamiliar friend,

and it was very therapeutic for me when

I was going through an extremely difficult

transition in my life,

trying to find myself again.

I didn't want to be identified or I

don't want to be remembered just because I

served in the Army.

I want to make a real difference in

the world beyond what we're kind of

programmed to believe.

I am proud that I served.

I am loyal to those with whom I

served.

But our government, you know,

is very disloyal to us.

And I too was one of those guys.

I was on the Trump train and I

had met Hillary Clinton in person.

I had met the Bush, George Bush,

and some different people through my

avenues in the military.

And they played us pretty good.

I've become a strictly apolitical person

before I go any further.

I think the left wing and the right

wing belong to the same corrupt bird.

And I think that we all need to

get out of that paradigm,

not necessarily at the local level.

If you can reach out and touch someone,

then you should vote for that position.

But the federal government,

they are so far protected.

The Organic Act of eighteen seventy one

turned this country into a corporation.

And, you know,

where we're at now with the Federal

Reserve and this really

It is a socialist government.

If you really look at it with a

clean slate,

just look at it for what it is.

Now, what we're told what it is,

it's such a very heavy socialist dependent

country.

Whereas before, you know,

people look to their neighbors,

people look to their church.

But society post-Civil War had been

flipped completely upside down.

And, you know,

everybody is so reliant on the state.

And the series I'm doing now on The

Fact Hunter,

I think we're going into layer eleven

called exposing the matrix.

We look at all the different layers,

the financial matrix,

the the war matrix and all of the

things that make up the system we live

in.

We're wrapping in religion as well,

dispensationalism.

All of those things are kind of wrapped

up.

It's not the people, right?

You hear people complain about soldiers.

You hear back in twenty twenty,

it was the doctors and nurses.

It is so much deeper than that.

It is the system that we've been woven

into that was hijacked here in the States

by the Rockefellers after nineteen

hundred.

They overtook

the medical industry.

They overtook education.

Once again,

that's why the USS Liberty is nowhere in

your history books and things of that

nature.

So they have woven a society that we've

become dependent on.

Right.

In twenty twenty, the police said, hey,

I'm just doing my job.

Sorry, I have to close your church.

I'm just doing my job.

Sorry, I can't let you you know,

I can't let you in to see your

dying mother.

I'm just doing your job.

It is the system that has been woven.

And I've said this before, Billy,

I don't know about you,

imagine nineteen years in the military i i

retired in twenty fifteen imagine it's

twenty nineteen or twenty twenty right and

you have nineteen years in the military

and you're told jab or your retirement

imagine those guys who were putting that

predicament brother and that's why you

know i don't judge and praise the lord

for

what people like yourself and others do

with the detox and Dr. Artis.

I think you've had them on before, right,

Dr. Brian Artis?

I had them on many years ago.

And, you know, I am too.

We're on a homeopathic

kind of trail we we got a little

less than two acres we don't have a

whole lot but it's enough to raise our

meat chickens and egg layers and i just

installed a um cloud buster william

reich's cloud buster about a month ago so

i'm not permaculture quite yet but we're

working on trying to do everything we can

to become self-reliant now i'm not a

full-blown what you would call prepper

because

I think where we're headed,

it doesn't matter if you live on the

most southern tip of Chile or you live

in New York City,

this one world government and everything

that's coming is going to affect

everybody.

But, you know,

it's going to give you a better chance

to survive outside of that system,

the beast system, if you will.

No,

it sounds like your reasoning for starting

a podcast was very much my own.

You know,

we have a YouTube channel where we show

people how to farm and how to do

it inexpensively and how to raise all your

stuff for free.

But then there was this other part of

me that a lot of people had never

seen because, you know,

primarily on YouTube,

that's what I would talk about.

But I was finding out that over and

over and over and just like you around

twenty twenty.

I really started to feel the hammer fall

down.

We got kicked off for two weeks, George,

because we had a guest bring up

elements on the periodic table and how it

might actually help.

And I thought, okay,

as a cathartic release and as a way

to, you know,

be able to talk about the things that

mean a whole lot to me and not

have any censorship at all,

I'm going to go strictly to an audio

platform and I'm just going to do a

podcast.

So under that pimp casting,

which stands for permaculture is my

passion.

There's a whole lot in there.

And believe me, I'm like you,

I'm thinking about starting up a second

podcast where it's called occulted history

where

You're bringing up a whole lot of stuff

there just a moment ago,

everything from Smedley Butler.

I mean,

people think Smedley Butler is a guy

working at the Biltmore down the road.

No, y'all,

he would have been the only man to

win the Congressional Medal of Honor three

times had he not turned down the third

attempt to give it to him.

Extraordinary guy,

but it sounds like you and I got

a whole lot in common.

But let me hit you up with this

other podcast before we get into the book.

Now, you got another podcast out there.

Of course,

this is going to be controversial to some,

but George brings the receipts just like

Raul did when he was on here.

In fact,

I can honestly say that I never once

seriously considered any of this.

I'd heard about it.

And I wasn't a hard sell because I

was already aware of the fact that

everything,

the powers that shouldn't be tell us is

a manufactured lie.

So why wouldn't this be as well?

So George,

let me ask you about the Flat Earth

Files podcast.

What was the motivation behind that?

And why didn't you just put it under

the fact hunter?

Great questions.

And I'll try to stay more on track

than the last time.

No, it's all good, man.

You're knocking it out of the park,

really.

So it was early in the fact hunter,

I think at a probably maybe four or

five months into the podcast.

And I always tell I told people at

the end, you know,

send us an email if you'd like to

come on.

Love to have you.

There's no topic, you know.

that I don't want to touch.

And then I checked my email one morning

and it's from a guy named David Weiss.

And the topic was flat earth.

And I opened it up and I laughed.

I thought, wow,

I just thought this was something they

said on television and the movies.

I didn't really...

realize that there was people who didn't

believe we lived on a globe.

You know, we were taught that.

And this is you start to understand that's

one of the earliest things that you're

taught as a child.

They even hang it above your crib.

And if you go back and watch any

movie or any TV show post-Nineteen fifty

five,

you're going to find a globe in that

movie or TV show repeatedly.

and the word global, all of those things.

Universal,

going back into the early nineteen

hundreds, that logo is on there.

So I deleted the email and I felt

bad.

The next day I go back into the

trash, click on it, pull it back out.

I emailed it and I was like,

what's up?

You know, actually,

there was a link on there.

He had an interview with somebody.

He said, hey, check this out.

I went and listened and it made a

little bit of sense.

I said, OK.

And I scheduled him on, I think,

two weeks down the road and I started

going from one video to the next then

i started looking into certain books and

then i broke out the bible i had

heard something on on one of the youtube

videos and they mentioned this word

firmament and um isaiah forty twenty two

how god stopped the sun and the moon

not the earth and you know in church

the pastors always like to say be a

berean and that's the group of folks

Um, that is spoken about in Acts,

verse eleven.

And, you know,

Paul comes into town and he's witnessing

the gospel of Jesus Christ.

And instead of just taking his word for

it,

they pull out the scriptures and they're

okay.

Yeah, that matches.

Yep.

Yep.

That must be the word of God.

So unlike what we do today, right?

We'll go to the NIH's website.

We'll go to Google.

We'll go to WebMD instead of, hey,

maybe we should look at the word of

God first.

So anyway, I reach out to him,

schedule an interview.

And after two weeks of trying to debunk

this thing,

and I mean two weeks of no sleep,

and I mean no sleep,

my world was turned upside down.

That had probably a bigger impact on my

life than on most outside of the

And all of us, right?

What was the name of that law they

passed?

The Patriot Act.

The most patriotic act ever passed.

You know, I had them on,

and I had already become a Flat Earther

by the time Dave came on,

and we had a great conversation.

And it was so exciting.

You know, I said, I can't wait.

After I recorded it, I said,

I can't wait to put out this podcast.

My audience is going to be blown away

when I expose this lie that we live

on a spinning ball.

And I published the episode.

And the next day, brother,

I've got fifty emails saying that, man,

I thought you were going to be a

good podcast.

You're just another crazy flat earther and

everything else.

And how many times in our lives have

we been excited about a truth that we

found and we go to tell somebody else

and they just look at you like,

Are you crazy?

And even when you show them in the

Bible word for word and you disprove their

math like curvature,

which can be easily debunked,

and all the satanic numerology and

heliocentrism,

and even the great fathers of the church

like Martin Luther,

he called Copernicus a heretic.

He said that was all nonsense.

All of this stuff,

including dispensationalism,

has come around, you know,

obviously Copernicus was five hundred

years ago,

but it didn't really start to take hold

until the last couple of hundred years.

And there's an old saying, Billy,

if a doctrine is new,

it's probably not sound.

And if a doctrine is sound,

it's probably not new.

Dispensationalism, heliocentrism,

evolution, Big Bang Theory.

All of those things are to make you

believe we live on a rock that has

been spinning out of control for fourteen

billion years.

And what that does,

it makes you a trivial,

not special creation.

When this world is only,

according to the Bible,

six thousand years old, God, imago Dei,

right?

You are made in God's image.

And these people want to tell you, nope,

you're not special.

You're a blip on a fourteen billion year

calendar.

And yeah,

that was when the scales completely fell

from my eyes.

If you have seen that movie, They Live,

that was the moment the sunglasses went on

and I could see the vaccines were fake.

The globe was fake.

And sure,

there's been one or two times when I

wish I could un-red pill myself.

Not really.

But I'll tell you what.

Go ahead.

I'm sorry.

No, no, go right ahead.

I thought you were done.

I think we have a little bit of

a delay here, but as you were.

no, no, no.

I was just saying it was such,

but it also, there,

there is a disconnect from people who were

not awake because for me, Billy,

it's so boring to have a conversation

about the football game yesterday.

And I used to live and die with

the Eagles and live and die with the

Phillies.

And now it's just so meaningless to me.

And I'll sit down and watch a game,

but I'd rather be, be, you know,

looking for the truth and, and, uh,

witnessing to people and trying to get

them to understand that the prince of the

power of the air, that is Satan,

he is the one who is controlling all

of this stuff.

And the people who are in the most

high positions in this world, listen,

it's WWE.

They have to have the good guys and

they have to have the bad guys.

And that's how they divide and conquer us.

But yeah,

I wouldn't trade it for anything.

Well,

it seems so many of us are so

content to be, you know,

spoon fed this garbage at the bottom of

Plato's cave.

And like you,

I don't know that I went into it

as kicking and scratching as maybe you

were,

because I was already I was wide awake

to nine eleven.

I was wide awake to this and that

and that and this.

All I needed was one thing right off

the bat.

And I was like, OK,

the fact that I can see entirely too

far.

Debunks anything they said.

I don't need anything else.

Somebody will say, well, what about this?

What about no, no, no, no, no, no,

no.

We and I can't even tell you how

many pilots I know.

One of them, a former Marine Corps pilot.

I say, hey, when you're up there,

he's now flying for American Airlines.

I'm like, hey, when you're up there,

do you see a curve?

No, I don't.

And that to me tells me everything I

need to know.

I mean,

I don't care what man has to say

at this point.

You know,

there's a reason in classical in a

classical education.

You're you were once taught the trivium

and it was taught in America about one

hundred and fifty till about one hundred

and fifty years ago.

And through that grammar,

logic and rhetoric.

one of the key things you would do

was examine your own personal experience

of what you can observe what you can

see what you can touch and it's funny

like you said i went back i couldn't

believe there was somebody to put out a

video showed all these different globes

out there and in fact i think i

told raul i found a i was at

a um i was at one of the

local towns here and they had like a

hundred year old or a hundred and twenty

year old dictionary

I looked up firmament.

And of course,

it's not the definition we have now.

I wish I had kept the picture of

it,

looked up the word firmament and what it

meant.

And then I also looked up some other

things that I know we can't get into

regarding the Holocaust and some other

things.

But there's a whole variety of things that

everybody fundamentally believes that are

nothing more than manufactured lies,

as I said a moment ago.

Well, let's get into the book, because,

George, if I'm not careful,

I could honestly,

there's not a question I asked you so

far that we couldn't make an entire show

out of.

So we're going to definitely have to have

you back.

Good night.

When I heard you were writing this book,

when you came out with it on your

podcast, I was like, okay,

I gotta get it.

And by the way, folks,

here it is right here.

I bought this thing two weeks ago,

exposing dispensationalism,

how an invented prophetic system reshaped

modern Christianity.

I bought this thing about two weeks ago,

but folks,

I got a stack of books on the

coffee table down there,

and this is that time of year

where I'm going at a hundred miles an

hour, usually when a guest comes on,

I will have at least read part of

the book.

But I think George and I are coming

from the same place here because I was

raised a dispensational person.

Um, in every,

in every part of my existence growing up,

I mean, it was all dispensational,

even Clarence Larkin stuff,

dispensational truths and all that kind of

stuff that I was taught.

And then you talk about,

I think the way you describe the,

your introduction to biblical earth is

what I had when I discovered that, hey,

this was all, C.I.

Schofield was a complete charlatan.

Everything I was taught was a complete

lie.

Now,

I didn't have this eureka moment

necessarily on flat earth,

but I definitely did when it came to

this information.

So instead of me monologuing on like this,

what made you feel compelled to write this

book,

even though I think it needs to be

written?

so this book had more than one kind

of why i should write this book one

was like you and i i was in

the military and americans support war

because of the evangelical church and

dispensationalism uh israel good everybody

else bad number two this false worship uh

false worship pardon me of the

geopolitical state of israel

Within the church, I want you to,

sometimes you have to just take a moment,

sit down and break things down to their

lowest common denominator.

These churches like John Hagee and Dr.

Jeremiah, who, by the way, Dr. Jeremiah,

I'm not saying he doesn't love the Lord.

He's just disillusioned because understand

that these people infiltrated the Bible

college, like the Moody Bible college,

I think in Chicago, the Dallas seminary,

and even I think Philadelphia before they

changed their name.

so you know over the last fifty years

you have these pastors in a pulpit in

a pulpit during a church service saying

that they should turn iran or iraq into

a parking lot so again break it down

to its lowest common denominator you're

having pastors saying that we should take

the lives of god's creation

And support the people who hate Jesus

Christ.

And if you think I'm understating that,

then you have never taken a moment to

read the Talmud or understand the entire

New Testament of the Bible,

which is the Jews rejecting Jesus.

But they were able to infiltrate,

and I'll keep it very light, brother,

we're on YouTube, I understand.

They were able to infiltrate the Bible

seminaries,

And that's what I texted Raul today.

I said the two greatest,

two of the biggest, I should say,

deceptions in our lifetime is to get

people to believe that we're on a spinning

ball.

And if you want to break your calculator,

according to their science, you know,

we've been here for fourteen billion years

and look how fast the solar system's

traveling.

How far have we traveled in fourteen

billion years?

You know, Occam's razor,

the simplest explanation normally is.

But the two biggest deceits Satan has put

on the people is that we're on a

spinning ball and that the people who love

Jesus, I'm sorry,

the people who despise Jesus must be

revered.

And the last church I went to,

I had a lot of heart to hearts

with the pastor and he understood that,

yeah,

John, John, fourteen,

six says he is the way he is

the truth.

He is the life.

No man comes to the father except through

me.

There's no I look many times, Billy.

There's no asterisk at the end of there.

There's no dual covenant.

And he was an older guy.

He yeah, yeah, yeah.

But during the services,

it was all Israel.

Pray for Israel.

Yeah.

Pray for Israel that they fall on their

knees and accept Christ.

And, you know,

I'll tell these folks there's more

Christians in Syria and Iran.

in North Korea, in China, than in Israel.

Less than one percent of the population

follows Christ.

You want to talk about persecution.

You tell somebody over there that you love

Christ,

and that's where the Noahide laws come in.

And we can save that for another day,

but if you don't understand how deep these

Noahide laws go,

and the part about worshiping false idols,

and what they consider Jesus,

and what the punishment is,

it's a very deep rabbit hole.

Yeah,

it was important for me to get it

out because the churches are broken.

And by the way,

I'll give you a sneak preview.

This isn't going to be up till Christmas.

This is just the first edition.

This book's called Return to Scripture,

The Church We Were Called to Be.

And I have been in so many churches

since I moved back here.

And they're either zero discipleship or

they have women pastors.

And I'm not denigrating women.

It's just very clear.

The Bible says there shouldn't be women

pastors.

Don't come at George.

Paul wrote it divinely inspired through

God.

or there's no discipleship whatsoever,

or they're pushing this dispensational

nonsense.

And so I entered seminary about a year

and a half ago,

and I'll be finishing up in the spring.

And I say I'm planning a church,

but I'm not sure exactly, Billy,

what type of church the Lord wants me

to plant,

or if it's going to be a revival

moving from town.

I don't know what the Lord wants me

to do right now,

but I know we got to get out

there and

wake people up more than just nine,

eleven and vaccine.

Those things are extremely important,

but also understand that there's a world

beyond this life and we've really got to

get people on board and get them to

read their Bible,

not let

A pastor tell them what is the truth,

right?

They'll take the pastor's sermon as

gospel,

but they won't even read the gospel for

themselves.

And I say that at my podcast.

Don't take my word for it.

Take what I say, write it down,

and then do your own research.

That's the reason we're in the situation

we are to begin with,

because you believe somebody without

looking into it.

Sadly, so many of these so-called pastors,

I mean, from my standpoint,

are just nothing more than hirelings.

I mean,

I've seen over and over and over,

like you, I was appalled that people are,

that so-called pastors here in the United

States of Amnesia are calling for the

death of fellow Christians in Gaza and all

these other places.

It is just absolutely sickening.

And sadly,

so many other people out there are just

so easily

And I know we blame a lot of

boomers out there.

I get it.

I do a lot of it right here

on this program as well,

although there are a number of them.

I will say ninety percent of the ones

I come across,

maybe ninety five are absolutely Fox News,

blah, blah, blah.

Couldn't care less.

I mean, wouldn't even, you know,

examine any of this stuff.

But there are a few out there and

we have a number of them that listen

to this program as well.

George, I got to ask you.

I've covered some of the – not entirely.

I haven't done an entire show on it.

But I have kind of skirted around C.I.

Schofield and the Plymouth Brethren and

all these other guys.

Why don't you – I don't know to

what extent you're able,

but can you talk to us about where

dispensationalism – because there are

probably some people glazing over when we

talk about that.

Can you tell us where it originated and

how it became what it is today?

Yeah, and again,

the New Testament was written between,

I think,

First Thessalonians was written in AD.

Depending on who you ask, Revelations,

some people say it was AD,

but most people say it was AD.

So you're talking about an eighteen

hundred year difference between the New

Testament being produced and

dispensationalism kind of being created.

There was a guy by the name of

John Nelson Darby.

In the eighteen thirties.

And again,

you're talking about two hundred years

ago.

So the stories vary on how he came

upon it.

And he kind of created it.

And then C.I.

Schofield and others kind of ran with it.

And the big nail in the proverbial coffin

was when C.I.

Schofield, who,

as Billy mentioned correctly earlier,

he was not a good man.

He left his family.

He was a charlatan.

And he creates the Schofield Reference

Bible,

which actually

I want to say it was right around

page one thousand in his footnotes.

It's a reference Bible,

so he puts his own footnotes in there

to get people to sway into the Zionism,

etc.

And he even mentions the Talmud and its

heresy.

He's the one who kind of came up

with the pre-trib,

the pre-tribulation rapture,

which there's a big stretch from Greek

harpaza when it says caught up in the

air.

That refers to the Greek word harpaza and

then a Latin word raptura.

And then they decided it was a rapture.

And this theology says Jesus has to come

back twice,

once to pull us up before the tribulation.

And then again,

he comes down for his new kingdom.

And the entire New Testament is about

persecution and suffering of Christians.

And it's just amazing to me the mental

gymnastics that you have to do to buy

off

on dispensationalism.

And if you just sit down and read

the Olivet Discourse in Matthew twenty

four into twenty five and correlate that

with Revelation six, there's so many.

It just makes sense.

And he even mentions the olive tree in

both of them.

That's how amazing the Bible is.

But dispensationalism is that certain

parts of the Bible are different sets of

time and there's different stories.

And it's very clear that, you know,

This is one continuous story.

The New Testament complements the Old

Testament.

The most misunderstood text in all of the

Bible is Genesis twenty-two.

Most pastors won't even touch it in their

pulpit.

It was one of my favorite sermons I

did because that's when Abraham went up

Mount Moriah with Isaac.

It took him three days, by the way.

How long was Jesus in the tomb?

Three days.

Isaac asks dad, where's the sacrifice?

And Abraham says, the Lord will provide.

And the Lord provides for us.

He sets Abraham on the altar,

raises his knife,

and the God and the angels say,

don't touch that child.

God is showing us that not only will

he never ask us to do something that

he wouldn't do, he will go further.

Because when Jesus got on the cross,

God did not stop that.

He allowed that to happen.

and um you know they abraham looked over

and saw a ram in the thicket and

they sacrificed the ram the from the ram

to the lamb god always provides that's why

they named mount moriah uh he will provide

and um it's just so amazing but they

take this the dispensationalists they take

all of these scriptures they twist them

around and this dual covenant you know

well after the rapture the jews are gonna

They're going to come around.

There's a whole other covenant for them.

So they almost put this dual covenant

theology into it where, well, Christians,

you have to accept Christ,

as stated in John, fourteen,

six and everywhere else in the New

Testament.

But if you're a Jew,

don't worry about it.

You're good.

You know,

and it's just the most ridiculous thing.

And it it saddens me to such a

certain extent that people will stand in

the altar,

guys who had spent four years in Bible

college with the words right in front of

them and still believe

and hang flags in their church, that six,

six, six flag in their church.

I've been in churches where they're

hanging the flag behind the altar.

And I'm like, this is,

these people are going to bring back the

third temple and sacrifice.

They're going to start sacrificing again

because they rejected the Messiah.

You are worshiping a false Messiah and

dispensationalism has a lot of different

kind of tentacles to it.

It affects the tribulation.

It makes people,

Again,

it puts Israel on a different pedestal

than us,

and it is just broken theology that needs

to be exposed.

And that's why I wrote the book Exposing

Dispensationalism.

Again, I went on a terrible tantrum.

I'm usually a host, too.

I'm not a guest very often,

so I apologize if I'm ranting.

No, you're doing a great job,

and you're laying it out there in a

way that I've kind of covered in some

ways,

but certainly not to the depth that you

are right now.

I've kind of put a number of warning

shots over there, and I've made it very,

very clear and lost a lot of people

along the way.

Also, I can't even tell you.

I mean, when I came out against Israel,

it would have been less shocking if I

came out as trans.

I mean,

for a number of these people out here,

I'm telling you, George,

they were losing their ever-loving minds.

And these people were probably like

Christians, right?

Oh, absolutely.

They were sitting here telling me, well,

this and this.

I'm like, look, I know the story.

I've been taught this my whole life.

Examine it for yourself.

There's a reason why they don't allow you

to do DNA tests over there.

You play a lot of stuff from way

back from, I think you used to play,

do you still play Tex Mars from time

to time?

Yeah,

I haven't done classic audio in a minute,

but if you go back through the catalog,

we have Tex Mars, Bill Cooper,

a lot of great classic audio that's been

kind of buried.

that that really should be replayed.

Well, Tex Mars did probably...

I have got to find this thing and

send it to you.

He did a play-by-play, you know,

I think it was a couple of years

before he died,

and he was laying it all out,

how even people...

From over there, we're saying, hey,

we might want to put a damper on

a lot of this DNA testing stuff over

here,

because when you get down to brass tacks,

we have no Abrahamic blood to begin with.

But does that make a difference to any

of the evangelicals out there that have

been spoon-fed this nonsense their whole

lives?

So, I mean,

to get down to the book again,

what are some of the most common prophetic

beliefs that Christians assume are

biblical,

but

actually originated from dispensational

theology.

Yeah,

the biggest one is the pre-tribulation

rapture, for sure,

without a doubt is the biggest one.

And again,

that is something that just came about,

you know,

a hundred and fifty years ago when C.I.

Schofield came around and started

publishing.

By the way,

I think Oxford is the one that picked

it up.

So anytime Oxford Publishing is involved

with the power of Mr. Moody,

who was a huge evangelical with deep

pockets,

who started the Moody Bible Institute,

And if you just take time to do

the research, in most cases,

even on Wikipedia,

you can find an Israeli connection there

as well,

as well as like the Graham family and

all of them.

I mean, if you look at Samaritan's Purse,

which is ran by Franklin Graham,

they're worth eight billion with a B

dollars.

And he pays himself close to a million

dollars a year.

And that's just from that,

not including what he gets from the

church.

Hold on, George.

Wait, hang on.

Let me just stop you for a second.

Would this be the same Franklin Graham

that told all of his parishioners and all

of us to go out there and get

this death jab?

Would that be the same guy?

A hundred percent.

And brother, you know the deal.

If you're on the world stage,

you're part of the club.

You're an actor.

And that's why even...

um paula white and billy graham and who

which by the way i i could play

a clip for you when he was on

the larry king show twenty years ago and

larry asked him you know what about the

jews and islam are they going to hell

well i really can't say i don't know

when the bible clearly states you're

either in christ or you're out of christ

or you're anti-christ i should say and he

even

It's very frustrating that there's been a

lot of damage done to the church over

the last fifty years.

And many of these churches,

especially where I live, brother,

they're lost.

I sent Raul a clip from Sunday.

Ask him about that.

How awful.

It was a five minute clip from a

seventy eight year old lesbian pastor ten

minutes down the street from me that ran

it for five minutes.

It's just these churches have been

infiltrated by Satan and we need good men

to stand up and take these churches back

or to start your own church like I'm

doing.

Yeah, you know, Scipio Eruditus,

I actually go to his church.

Do you?

Yeah,

I go to Scipio's Bible study every Sunday

because – and why?

I mean, sadly, you know,

I would love to be in the same

room with a lot of other people out

there that,

you know –

that isn't being fed this nonsense,

but I live about forty five minutes north

of Asheville.

And you would honestly you would have

better luck finding the bones of Bin Laden

than finding an actual preacher out here

that isn't either seriously woke.

I mean, bro,

this is like the wokest of the woke

when it comes to I mean,

this is San Francisco in these mountains.

That's exactly what it is.

You just can't find it out here.

So I have to do this stuff virtually,

or I listen to Pastor Chuck Baldwin on

Sunday, or I catch glimpses from you,

or Raul sends me something.

This is where I have to go to

church these days because I don't know

that unless I was in Kalispell, Montana,

I'm just not finding a whole lot of

people out there that are saying what is

biblical and isn't afraid to call these

people out in that country we call Israel.

Yeah, Pastor Baldwin is phenomenal.

He's up there at Kalispell, Montana.

I'd also highly recommend Pastor Adam

Fannin.

He's down in Jacksonville, Florida.

He's on YouTube, Law of Liberty Church.

And by the way,

if you just put in Law of Liberty

Dispensationalism,

he has like a thirty five minute clip.

He breaks it down really well because he

was even as a pastor dispensationalist

until he

ten or fifteen years ago and he sat

down and read it for himself because once

again he was trained in the classical

dispensationalist way to perceive

something and then somebody said hey read

that again and he read it he understood

that he had been lied to and uh

he i enjoy him he does two services

on sunday and one on wednesday night but

it's the same here and i'm in rural

western delaware chicken farms all around

us but we have been infiltrated as well

with this progressive woke mindset and you

know working all week you want to hear

the word of god and then you get

fed some nonsense like that it's just got

to be i know there's people out there

who want to serve the lord and to

be you know given the word the truth

But man,

I think a lot of it was like,

for instance, the Methodist church here,

they had a financial crisis in the

nineties.

And if you look at the people who

bailed them out,

that's the people they have to answer to.

So that's one reason I'm not like Pastor

Baldwin.

I don't want to be a nine ninety.

I want to be an independent church,

independent of the government.

I'm never going to be told to close

my church, to close my doors.

It doesn't matter what emergency.

There's no greater emergency than your

salvation.

So, amen to all that.

Man, I got to ask, George, you know,

it takes a lot of time to write

a book and, you know,

to get this stuff off and running.

What's your prime?

I think you kind of got into it

a little bit ago,

but who's the main audience for this?

I mean,

are you seriously hoping that you can wake

up a lot of these evangelicals,

or are you trying to reach the younger

audience?

Is there a target audience at all,

or are you just putting it out there

hoping that it'll find the right person?

I think that's it, Billy.

So like I started with the Fact Hunter,

grew into the Flat Earth Files because

nobody within that Fact Hunter community

really wanted to hear about the Flat

Earth.

They wanted to hear about every other

conspiracy but Flat Earth.

And then years go by,

they still trust my voice.

Then they finally go listen to the Flat

Earth Files.

And the first episode is Why the Lie?

And that's so important to understand why

they go out of their way to do

that.

And I already mentioned why they do it.

So I think if you put enough out

there in kind of different areas,

it'll eventually bring people around to

the spiritual side of things.

And with dispensationalism,

outside of the progressive wokeness that

has infiltrated the church,

like last week I did the religious...

part of The Matrix that was like layer

nine.

And I played so many clips from churches

around the country with these lesbian

pastors, these tranny pastors,

and how they have turned churches into

absolute clown shows.

And this is the house of God.

you're mocking god in his house and i'm

telling you um i think it's james chapter

one verse five i think it is and

it talks about how these people these

shepherds who are leading their flock that

way there's there's a literally a special

place in hell for these people and i'm

trying to get people to understand that

just because you go to that church and

you've been going to that church for

twenty thirty forty years you've got to

make a change in your life you can't

Listen, man, when you get in trouble,

right, and you need a lawyer,

you're not looking for an average lawyer.

And when you get that, you know,

diagnosis from your doctor,

you're not looking for the most average

doctor.

You know,

when you are talking about your spiritual

being and eternity,

and you are entrusting that with some

mediocre...

nonsensical pastor,

you need to reevaluate yourself.

Get out of the church.

Do like Billy, myself.

It's not as edifying to me to listen

to somebody and there's nothing better

than being in person,

having the Lord's Supper.

That's important, right?

Baptizing people is so very important.

Those are things that are hard to do

online, but at the same time,

that is better than being a part of

that synagogue of Satan.

Well,

George,

I don't know what anybody would call my

state of mind right now when I consider

everything you just said there.

We have trans-testicle polar bears in a

pulpit right now.

We got this.

We got that.

I mean, here in Asheville,

you could have them put on a ballerina

slippers and a tutu and have them sing

Good Ship Lollipop,

and they'd be okay with it.

It's a crazy,

crazy world we live right now,

but it also makes me realize that the

Lord is beyond long-suffering.

Because I don't know how you can do

– I mean,

and I know that I'm not talking out

of school.

I'm talking to a combat soldier here.

And with the benefit of knowing history

and hindsight,

I think you realize that all wars are

bankers' wars,

and all the things that are happening

right now are done at the behest of

these ultra-wealthy people that are really

pulling the shots.

But sadly, we've got a populace –

They could not care less.

I mean,

ninety percent of the people in my family,

honestly,

I scream this stuff from the mountaintops.

They couldn't care less.

So I got to ask.

I got to ask.

I mean,

this isn't on the topic of your book,

but I'm asking this, you know,

as a guy who I know is highly

informed.

Where do you see America not now,

but maybe five years from now,

if we don't straighten up and smell the

corruption before we fall asleep drinking

the hemlock?

You know.

I don't know.

But if you had to, you know,

you're asking me just my opinion.

I think that all the technology is in

place for this.

You know, they want to kill the dollar,

the physical dollar, the cash.

They want us to be a cashless society.

They're finishing up putting all these

flat cameras on every corner,

so that will help integrate the social

credit score,

which is already and has been running in

China, I think, since twenty twenty six G,

I think,

is set to drop in twenty nine or

thirty.

So I will tell you, Billy,

that I think.

By twenty thirty, twenty thirty one,

the world that we live in today will

not resemble anything.

And we're talking four or five years.

It will not resemble anything that we are

living like today.

And before anybody laughs at that,

just remember what life was like in twenty

nineteen and what life is like today,

how much has changed,

how much they've normalized working from

home and DoorDash and Zoom and our lives

changed overnight.

Mom and pop businesses got killed.

They already started putting that in the

back of your mind, that cash is bad,

it's dirty.

Remember,

a lot of places wouldn't take cash because

it had germs on it.

They've already eliminated the penny.

Trump already started his little thing for

the children so they could start giving

money to the government.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, my gosh.

Which eventually could become, you know,

it's working so great for the kids,

let's do it for everybody.

And, oh,

there's your account for universal basic

income.

You just have to get this microchip

implanted in your hand.

And here's the thing.

When the B system comes,

it's not going to be, ooh,

here's the B system.

It's going to be presented as something

phenomenal, right?

You're going to get free health care.

You're going to get universal basic

income.

No more passports.

You just scan your hand.

They're going to make it sound like the

greatest thing ever.

since you know since popcorn but um

contrary to what the great john mcarthur

which you know i used to think highly

of him until he said oh no you

can get the mark of the beast and

still go to heaven i don't know about

that john but you know things are set

up for those things could possibly take

place in our lifetime and again we're told

in the bible numerous times that if you

follow christ you're going to be

persecuted and uh but you shouldn't look

at things like um

The Olivet Discourse and Revelations is a

terrible thing because as those things

progress and come to us,

that means we're that much closer to not

dealing with this nonsense anymore.

And, you know,

I say that as a spiritual person,

as a human person, as a father,

as an uncle, and as a grandfather,

that is something you have to,

because I do, we grow our own food,

we raise our own chickens,

we're on a well,

we do those things to prepare so when

that system,

if it does happen in our lifetime,

know and we're friends with the amish so

we can barter and do things like that

we want to be prepared to understand that

we're not going to be part of the

community we're going to be outcast and by

the way being in the truth community is

good training because to a certain extent

we're outcast right we're the cra here's

crazy uncle george um but i'm okay with

that because um you know the bible says

so and uh again

Between biblical cosmology and what

happened in twenty twenty,

the scales fell from my eyes and I

can observe the world for what it is.

Yeah.

Wow, George,

I don't even know how to follow that

up, man.

We're coming to the end of it here.

And I got about fifty thousand more

questions to ask you.

But I guess we'll just have to do

a part two on this here in the

near future.

Maybe even drag in Raul.

Sandy,

thank you so much for the super chat

and thank everybody else that else out

there.

Thor at the door.

I do remember you.

Yeah.

With Freeman Fly down there in South

Carolina.

That's actually.

Yeah, that's that.

We actually one of my biggest

introductions into that flat earth space

was at the height of COVID.

They had like the.

the, I don't know,

National Conference for Flat Earth in

South Carolina, which is about, yeah,

it was two hours away from me at

a, strangely enough, at a Masonic temple.

I went down there not knowing,

and I'll be honest with you, George,

I thought they were onto something.

I didn't have a dog in a race

one way or the other.

I was like, okay,

this is someplace I can go with my

son.

At the height of this nonsense,

here's the first thing I noticed as soon

as we got into the parking lot.

Number one, it was filled to the brim.

Not one person was wearing a mask.

That's right.

One.

And I'm like, okay, I'm already listening.

So we got in here and met a

bunch of really awesome people out here.

And I could not believe.

that people had come down all the way

from Canada and from Washington State for

a one-day conference.

A one-day conference because they were so

starved to be in the room with people

that actually had some sense.

So they weren't buying any of this.

And man,

I heard some real horror stories in there.

Wish I would have met you there, George.

But anyway,

where does everybody go to get this book

and

Tell them where they can find your

podcast, folks.

I highly recommend it.

I'm a big fan of his work,

big fan of both of his podcasts,

and I think you ought to check him

out.

So, George, how does everybody find you?

So the books are available on Amazon.

We have this book,

which is only four ninety nine.

It's called Foundations in Faith.

You're not who you are anymore.

It's a guide for new believers.

I'm working on part two,

which is the Disciple Makers Handbook.

That probably won't be out till later in

the fall.

And then, of course,

Exposing Dispensationalism.

Both of those are available on Amazon or

you can go to our website,

which is simply foundationsinfaith.net.

There's a twenty four seven streaming

radio with, you know,

like-minded people, myself,

Joe Harper's on there,

just rotating files you'll enjoy.

There's a prayer wall,

and then our books are available there as

well.

And I think that's about it.

But it was a pleasure being on here,

brother.

I can't tell you how much,

how thankful I am that you had us

on.

And I'd love to get together,

even in person one day,

I'd love to break bread with you.

But thank you so much for your time

and this platform.

And it was wonderful to meet a fellow

brother-in-arms.

Oh, man,

what a joy it was for me.

Raul,

you hit this one out of the park,

bro.

I can't, you know,

you kept saying for the longest time,

you two need to hook up and,

you know, do a podcast together.

Thank you so much for setting that up.

And maybe next time we do a trifecta

here and just lay it all down.

Maybe we lose the entire audience on the

print pimp cast.

All right, y'all, you know the deal.

Stay alert.

Stay alive.

Feeling nature's boo, boo, boo.

We've got the answers,

all we need to do.

Listen to the earth,

they've got us through.

The last seeds of the shame,

watch the world spin.

From the smallest sprout,

the harmony begins.

In the cycle of life,

where the magic's alive.

Turn it to the beat,

feel the fire and thrive.

What is up?