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I play my dream.

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Firm of fortune flows like sweet springs.

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I'm the daddy with the know-how seed.

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Green in the world like it's meant to

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be.

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I'm a culture B-I-O-V.

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I'm the king.

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Back to loving everything.

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Bringing change, making it last.

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Welcome to episode four seventy two of the

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Permaculture Pimpcast where pimp stands

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for permaculture is my passion.

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The only pimpcast on this earth that

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discusses permaculture, preparedness,

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practical living and sometimes

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prostitutes.

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Oh, well, good Wednesday to everybody.

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Yeah,

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this is one of my off-the-cuff interviews

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because I'm really,

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really looking forward to it.

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Right off the bat,

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I want to give a shout out and

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a hat tip to my man Raul.

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He's in the chat right now,

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Raul Firmamental.

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He's been such a blessing in my life

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in so many different ways and an

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extraordinary guy.

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And can't wait.

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You know,

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he's got a really cool YouTube channel.

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Raul,

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put it in the chat if you would,

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and I'll be sure to chat it out

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or shout it out.

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And anyway, good friend of mine.

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And isn't that funny, folks,

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how the people you wish lived down the

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street from you don't?

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And you're always surrounded by the

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people.

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He's surrounded by the people that are,

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you know, really,

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really comfortable at the bottom of

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Plato's cave.

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Anyway, this episode, as always,

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brought to you by the Sovereign Health

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Summit.

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That's going to be October twenty seventh

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through the thirty first.

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That's going to be in Harmony,

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North Carolina.

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Barbara O'Neill is going to be our

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headliner.

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and TPC Tango Papa Charlie will get you

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five percent off and folks we were going

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five percent because honestly it's already

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a bargain to begin with Barbara O'Neill is

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going to be our headliner and everybody

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we're bringing in would absolutely

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headline a show all by their lonesome so

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get over there especially with all the

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nonsense that they have dropping from the

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sky right now yeah speaking of which here

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I am in western North Carolina and you're

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telling me

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that these canadian fires are dropping all

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of these particular particulates or

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whatever you call them that is coming down

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here when the dominant wind folks go to

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any chat bot or whatever find out where

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the dominant wind is coming from this time

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of year it's coming from southwest and

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northeast so how is it canada we're

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getting canadian weather down here i'd

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like to know that anyway

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Yeah, heavy metal detox, folks.

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You're going to learn that at the

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And then you know me, folks.

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I'm G'd up from the feet up,

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and that means grounded.

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So you can get your grounding mats,

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all the stuff you need in terms of

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grounding over at Redemption Shield.

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And then finally, look,

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if you can't make biocomplete combat

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available,

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I can't even believe I just said that.

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If you can't make bio-complete compost,

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I guess I said combat because it feels

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like what we're in every single day.

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If you can't make bio-complete compost

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like the permaculture pimp daddy, look,

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Soil Saviors is your answer.

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You can get it over there.

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You can get it down below.

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We have it linked in all the show

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notes.

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So go check it out.

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Helps us out a great deal.

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All right.

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I handled all the housekeeping up front

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because I don't want to take any time

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away from our guest.

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I'll be honest.

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He probably doesn't know this,

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but I'm a big fan of his work.

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I'm a big fan of both of his

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podcasts.

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And once again,

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Raul was the guy who turned me on

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to him.

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And it was a fact hunter.

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And that's one podcast.

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And then Flat Earth Files is the other.

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But he's also an author.

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We're going to come to that here in

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a little bit.

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But his name is George Hobbs, folks.

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And I highly suggest everybody.

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I'm telling you,

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it's the one of the best podcasts out

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there you don't know about.

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And if you're into finding out the

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esoteric meaning to all this nonsense

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that's going out there and you want to

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hear from a Christian perspective.

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There's no better person out there than

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George Hobbs.

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And George,

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it is a joy and a pleasure to

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have you on.

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Thanks, bro.

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Billy, thanks for having me.

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And yeah, shout out to Raul.

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He's such a good man.

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We chat every day and just blessed that

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he was able to connect us together.

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Yeah, it's – oh, my goodness, man.

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It is definitely a joy to have Raul

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out there.

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So, Raul,

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make sure everybody behaves in the chat.

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And, folks, you know the deal out there.

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Don't get crazy.

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Don't get weird.

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Otherwise, some of our – not censors,

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but anyway,

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the people monitoring what's going on

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there will definitely take you down.

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So, yeah, somebody says,

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Mark Levin does not approve this message.

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No, he would not.

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No, he would not.

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Not on any level.

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So, George, you know,

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every superhero has an origin story.

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So, you know,

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for all those out there discovering you

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for the first time,

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why don't you tell us a little bit

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about your background before you got into

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podcasting?

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Yeah, sure.

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I mean, I'm fifty seven now,

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so the origin story goes back quite a

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way.

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But to give you the Cliff Notes version,

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I was born and raised in the suburbs

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of Wilmington, Delaware.

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Just a normal, you know, upbringing.

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My father was blue collar.

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He was a mailman.

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And all the...

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All of our family before my father and

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everybody else all served in the military,

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World War II, Korea, World War I,

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all the way back to the Civil War.

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And so for me,

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it wasn't a matter if I was going

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to join the military, it was when.

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And I think it was six weeks after

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I graduated high school,

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I got off the bus at Fort Leonard

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Wood, Missouri.

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and um did that and i was in

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the delaware national guards i started off

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my the first part of my career in

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the national guards because you know in

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the national guards you don't get deployed

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it's just for state emergencies and then

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my daughter was born on august second

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nineteen ninety so we're literally in the

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hospital delivering a baby and the news

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comes on that this saddam hussein guy just

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invaded

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Kuwait and I'm like, where's Iraq?

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And the Lord's like,

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I'm going to show you.

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And, you know, we got activated.

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My father's unit got activated.

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We were both in the Delaware guards,

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but we were in separate units.

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And we went over there, and it was,

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you know, in a sports term,

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it was a blowout, obviously.

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And if you remember back,

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I don't know how many of you all

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are in my age group,

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but the spin-up to the war was like

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they were the third greatest military in

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the world.

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These guys couldn't even maintain their

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Humvees.

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I mean,

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their story to get us all ramped up

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to go in there was just a joke,

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and we realized that pretty quickly.

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But

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My father, we both came home.

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I had some issues, not so major,

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but my father had some very major issues,

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health issues,

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and the VA denied his service.

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And all that was going on.

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Are you familiar with the Naira Al-Sabah

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story?

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No.

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I know the name,

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but I don't know the story.

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So if you remember back before we actually

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started the war,

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so it was during the Desert Shield time.

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Is this the girl?

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Yeah.

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He's in the incubators.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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I know exactly who you're talking about.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So she's crying in front of Congress

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saying that she witnessed all these Iraqi

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soldiers pull babies out of incubators.

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Well, in nineteen ninety two, you know,

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Nightline runs the story about how the

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whole thing was made up and that the

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girl who testified,

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she was actually the daughter to the

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Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States.

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And she hadn't even been to Kuwait in

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a decade.

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And there was ten million dollars spent on

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her to coach her up to act that

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way.

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And my dad was

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I don't want to say devastated,

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but he felt really, you know,

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between the VA not taking care of him

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and, you know,

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that lie to get people's emotions up to

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lead us into war.

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And he had to retire from the post

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office because he was debilitated.

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His knee was jacked up.

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And again, you're a letter carrier.

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You're out there pounding the pavement all

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day.

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And he ended up being testifying in front

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of President Clinton's Gulf War syndrome.

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If you go back on C-SPAN,

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I think it was August,

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nineteen ninety four ninety five.

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He was the first one to speak and

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he didn't really have a great.

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His health really deteriorated and he

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suffered towards the end of his life and

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he passed before covid and it caused me

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to move.

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I guess I should add in.

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got out of the guards,

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joined active duty in the mid-nineties.

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And, you know,

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I did Operation Joint Forge,

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which was in Hungary and Croatia and

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Sarajevo.

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But then nine eleven happened and I was

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a normie back at the time and I

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was all ramped up,

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ready to go to defend our country.

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And then again,

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you cross the berm and it was at

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March or April of two thousand three.

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And it was ninety one all over again.

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These people were like, Mr. Mr. Food.

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And it was just

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and then there's no weapons of mass

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destruction and then well why are we still

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here are we going home well no you're

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going to stay here for a year because

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this and that and then i ended up

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doing four tours fifty um fifty one months

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in total from two thousand to three to

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two thousand eleven i was in iraq every

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calendar year and you see all the things

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that go on i i was privy to

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some pretty big contracts and i started to

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understand the military industrial complex

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If you all have never read a book

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by Smedley Butler called War is a Racket,

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I can vouch for you that war is

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a racket,

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but it always comes at our expense.

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The people at the top,

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like that clown show that went on in

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D.C.

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today, you had all the people that,

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you know, Fauci's going to get arrested.

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Today is the day.

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No, it's not.

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And even Trump came out a couple hours

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ago and he's like, well, you know, Biden,

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pardon him.

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We can't do anything with him.

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It's a clown show when we're always part

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of our own demise.

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And after I retired, Billy,

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I started to take the time and unpack

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all of the things that I saw and

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dealt with over the last twenty years.

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even interactions with General Petraeus

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and the contracts I had seen and just

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seeing the horrors of war and the price

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that were paid.

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And then you start asking questions, well,

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why did fifty eight thousand people die in

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Vietnam?

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And then you look at the whole Gulf

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of what was it called?

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The Gulf of Tonkin.

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That was all a lie.

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And you go back through history and you

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understand there's two sides to every

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story.

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That's why history is called his story.

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And then you just keep peeling the layers.

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And I started to get into like William

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Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse and all those

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other kind of books.

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All the while,

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my Bible's like sitting right next to me

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collecting dust.

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And all the while I'm doing these rabbit

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holes, whether it's nine eleven, Waco,

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Oklahoma City,

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they all kind of converged back to the

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same good versus evil.

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And then you start to look at the

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spiritual side of things.

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And you understand this is all in the

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Bible.

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We're living it as we, you know,

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eat and breathe.

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And I started focusing more on that.

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And then I really started to understand

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where we are in the world and the

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lives that have been perpetuated upon us.

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And much of it, again,

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is our own problem because we listen to

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people instead of looking for ourselves.

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For instance, look at twenty twenty.

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We had the internet in twenty twenty.

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People could look up the history of

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vaccinations.

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And even if you are a person who

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supports vaccinations,

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you would know that it normally takes

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twelve or fifteen years for a vaccination

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to go through all the tests,

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all the trials.

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And nine months later,

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whom we have these magical vaccines.

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And listen,

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if you have a magical elixir brother that

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can fix anything,

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you don't have to give it away.

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You don't have to give it away with

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burgers and joints and all these other

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things.

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People will want something that works.

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And once you started to see people

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pressing you and threatening you and,

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you know,

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it came to me very clearly that we

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weren't going anywhere near this stuff.

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And in twenty twenty,

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which was I don't know about you, Billy,

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but even with the combat involved,

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twenty twenty was the most evil year of

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my life witnessing

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You know,

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people die without allowing their loved

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ones next to them.

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Only one person can be in the room.

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You have to be six feet away.

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And my wife,

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who was a registered nurse in a hospital,

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You know,

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it was her face that many people saw

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as they died when it should have been

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their family members.

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And my wife, you know,

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and all the other nurses were hailed as

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heroes.

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And then the next year when she refused

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the jab, they made her wear not one,

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but two masks.

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So it was this humiliation ritual.

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So people could see, you know,

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they're the ones who won't get the

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vaccine.

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And she ended up having to leave her

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job.

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But you know what?

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We didn't cry.

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We didn't complain because she still has

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her health intact to this very day.

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And, you know,

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And that's when you get to the spiritual

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side of things is, man,

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this world we live in,

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there's going to be many trials,

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many tribulations.

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But if you have faith in Christ,

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you know that this is just a journey,

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not a destination.

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And it's going to take strong men to

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stand up and speak the truth.

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And it's not comfortable all the time.

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I speak a lot of truth,

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and I think people are going to be

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really receptive to it,

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and I get shut down.

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But if you know it's the truth and

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you have the biblical text to support it,

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you need to speak the truth.

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that's about as mic drop as it's ever

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going to get oh my goodness um okay

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let me back up a little bit george

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i'm going to say a word and it's

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going to tell me whether or not you

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and i had the same mos essayons so

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my first uh i reclassed but yes

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Engineers, baby.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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I'm not sure.

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I think they're twenty fives.

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Maybe now they reclass them.

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But I went to Fort Leonard Wood, brother.

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Nineteen eighty seven.

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Yeah.

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I had to go there twice.

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It's the second time for sapper school,

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but, uh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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So yeah.

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Two times, you know,

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little Korea over there in Leonard woods.

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So anyway, that's, uh, that's cool, man.

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I knew I liked you.

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I knew I liked you for more than

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one reason.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Same MOS.

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I'm sure we got a whole lot of

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other things in common too.

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Um,

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Wow.

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Let's kind of kick over to your podcast

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and then we'll eventually circle around to

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your book, folks.

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I wanted George on here for a whole

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variety of reasons.

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I've been, you know,

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we kind of keep missing each other and

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also the powers that shouldn't be keep

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playing with my email as I've been telling

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everybody forever in a day.

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I'll get this junk email all day,

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but you know,

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I can't get George's email.

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I can't get, um, you know, Oh shoot.

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Yeah.

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What, who was the email I got?

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Oh, it was kind of important.

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It came from Dane Wigington.

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He's asking me to do a little bit

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of an experiment out here and it shows

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up sick.

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It's dated six days behind when it

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actually showed up.

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So it was no longer relevant by the

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time I got it.

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So apparently it's happening to Dane.

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It's happening to a number of others out

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there.

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Anyway, George, um,

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I got to ask you, I mean, man,

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I can already tell there's so many nuggets

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you dropped there that I just want to

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pick apart.

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But I'm going to ask you about your

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podcast, at least the first one,

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then we'll go into the second one here

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in a moment.

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it seems almost a rhetorical question to

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ask, but I got to ask,

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what made you decide to go into the

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podcasting game when there, it seems,

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everybody says it's saturated with way too

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many people out here.

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I don't necessarily agree.

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I just think there are,

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you will find what it is you're looking

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for.

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And like Raul brought me to you,

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and you bring a lot of the same

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information,

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but from a slant that I'm going to

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relate a whole lot more to,

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I got to know what,

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what made you think, okay, man, I'm,

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you know, out of the military,

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I'm retired.

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Got all this other stuff going on.

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Was it just something to do in retirement

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or what made you, what brought you there?

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I think it's two part.

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You know, the transition,

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anytime you have a major transition in

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life, it's very difficult.

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Even it's not just military.

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If you work at the same factory for

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thirty years, you know,

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you have the same routine.

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And when something like that changes,

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it's a bit of a journey to figure

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out where you're going from there.

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Now, some people in the military,

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they do their twenty,

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twenty five years and they just transition

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to the next thing.

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For me, you know, I had

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I wanted to get into the business world.

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And again, we all have our journeys.

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And I made some great friends and learned

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a lot of life lessons.

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And all that time,

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it certainly gave me to do research when

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I'm working seventy five hours a week in

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my retail store.

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But, you know,

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when you start coming on these truths and

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I know everybody who's in this truth

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community knows exactly what I'm talking

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about.

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When you go up to somebody and say,

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hey,

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have you heard about Operation Popeye?

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This cloud seeding thing's been going on

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since Vietnam.

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Or, hey, did you know this about Waco?

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Or, of course,

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the big one nobody knows about,

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which ties in with the dispensationalism

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book, like the USS Liberty.

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People weren't interested.

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All the friends that I've had,

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even buddies who I went downrange with

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several times,

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they just weren't interested in it.

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So for me,

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it was therapeutic to be able to sit.

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I was never comfortable.

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You know, when you go to the VA,

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you got to see the psychiatrist.

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And I never felt comfortable talking to a

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stranger about my problems.

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When I started sitting behind a microphone

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and talking,

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I felt like I was talking to like

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an unfamiliar friend,

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and it was very therapeutic for me when

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I was going through an extremely difficult

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transition in my life,

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trying to find myself again.

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I didn't want to be identified or I

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don't want to be remembered just because I

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served in the Army.

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I want to make a real difference in

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the world beyond what we're kind of

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programmed to believe.

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I am proud that I served.

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I am loyal to those with whom I

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served.

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But our government, you know,

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is very disloyal to us.

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And I too was one of those guys.

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I was on the Trump train and I

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had met Hillary Clinton in person.

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I had met the Bush, George Bush,

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and some different people through my

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avenues in the military.

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And they played us pretty good.

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I've become a strictly apolitical person

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before I go any further.

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I think the left wing and the right

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wing belong to the same corrupt bird.

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And I think that we all need to

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get out of that paradigm,

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not necessarily at the local level.

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If you can reach out and touch someone,

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then you should vote for that position.

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But the federal government,

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they are so far protected.

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The Organic Act of eighteen seventy one

00:19:08.453 --> 00:19:10.413
turned this country into a corporation.

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And, you know,

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where we're at now with the Federal

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Reserve and this really

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It is a socialist government.

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If you really look at it with a

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clean slate,

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just look at it for what it is.

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Now, what we're told what it is,

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it's such a very heavy socialist dependent

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country.

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Whereas before, you know,

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people look to their neighbors,

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people look to their church.

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But society post-Civil War had been

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flipped completely upside down.

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And, you know,

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everybody is so reliant on the state.

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And the series I'm doing now on The

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Fact Hunter,

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I think we're going into layer eleven

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called exposing the matrix.

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We look at all the different layers,

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the financial matrix,

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the the war matrix and all of the

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things that make up the system we live

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in.

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We're wrapping in religion as well,

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dispensationalism.

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All of those things are kind of wrapped

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up.

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It's not the people, right?

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You hear people complain about soldiers.

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You hear back in twenty twenty,

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it was the doctors and nurses.

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It is so much deeper than that.

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It is the system that we've been woven

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into that was hijacked here in the States

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by the Rockefellers after nineteen

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hundred.

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They overtook

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the medical industry.

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They overtook education.

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Once again,

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that's why the USS Liberty is nowhere in

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your history books and things of that

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nature.

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So they have woven a society that we've

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become dependent on.

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Right.

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In twenty twenty, the police said, hey,

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I'm just doing my job.

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Sorry, I have to close your church.

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I'm just doing my job.

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Sorry, I can't let you you know,

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I can't let you in to see your

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dying mother.

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I'm just doing your job.

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It is the system that has been woven.

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And I've said this before, Billy,

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I don't know about you,

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imagine nineteen years in the military i i

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retired in twenty fifteen imagine it's

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twenty nineteen or twenty twenty right and

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you have nineteen years in the military

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and you're told jab or your retirement

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imagine those guys who were putting that

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predicament brother and that's why you

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know i don't judge and praise the lord

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for

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what people like yourself and others do

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with the detox and Dr. Artis.

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I think you've had them on before, right,

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Dr. Brian Artis?

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I had them on many years ago.

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And, you know, I am too.

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We're on a homeopathic

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kind of trail we we got a little

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less than two acres we don't have a

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whole lot but it's enough to raise our

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meat chickens and egg layers and i just

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installed a um cloud buster william

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reich's cloud buster about a month ago so

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i'm not permaculture quite yet but we're

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working on trying to do everything we can

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to become self-reliant now i'm not a

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full-blown what you would call prepper

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because

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I think where we're headed,

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it doesn't matter if you live on the

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most southern tip of Chile or you live

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in New York City,

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this one world government and everything

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that's coming is going to affect

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everybody.

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But, you know,

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it's going to give you a better chance

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to survive outside of that system,

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the beast system, if you will.

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No,

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it sounds like your reasoning for starting

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a podcast was very much my own.

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You know,

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we have a YouTube channel where we show

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people how to farm and how to do

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it inexpensively and how to raise all your

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stuff for free.

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But then there was this other part of

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me that a lot of people had never

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seen because, you know,

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primarily on YouTube,

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that's what I would talk about.

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But I was finding out that over and

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over and over and just like you around

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twenty twenty.

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I really started to feel the hammer fall

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down.

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We got kicked off for two weeks, George,

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because we had a guest bring up

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elements on the periodic table and how it

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might actually help.

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And I thought, okay,

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as a cathartic release and as a way

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to, you know,

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be able to talk about the things that

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mean a whole lot to me and not

00:23:02.818 --> 00:23:04.259
have any censorship at all,

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I'm going to go strictly to an audio

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platform and I'm just going to do a

00:23:07.722 --> 00:23:08.324
podcast.

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So under that pimp casting,

00:23:10.665 --> 00:23:11.866
which stands for permaculture is my

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passion.

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There's a whole lot in there.

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And believe me, I'm like you,

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I'm thinking about starting up a second

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podcast where it's called occulted history

00:23:19.432 --> 00:23:19.692
where

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You're bringing up a whole lot of stuff

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there just a moment ago,

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everything from Smedley Butler.

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I mean,

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people think Smedley Butler is a guy

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working at the Biltmore down the road.

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No, y'all,

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he would have been the only man to

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win the Congressional Medal of Honor three

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times had he not turned down the third

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attempt to give it to him.

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Extraordinary guy,

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but it sounds like you and I got

00:23:42.390 --> 00:23:43.371
a whole lot in common.

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But let me hit you up with this

00:23:44.491 --> 00:23:46.053
other podcast before we get into the book.

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Now, you got another podcast out there.

00:23:49.203 --> 00:23:49.585
Of course,

00:23:49.625 --> 00:23:51.446
this is going to be controversial to some,

00:23:52.048 --> 00:23:54.309
but George brings the receipts just like

00:23:54.349 --> 00:23:55.711
Raul did when he was on here.

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In fact,

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I can honestly say that I never once

00:23:59.696 --> 00:24:01.479
seriously considered any of this.

00:24:01.558 --> 00:24:02.279
I'd heard about it.

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And I wasn't a hard sell because I

00:24:04.780 --> 00:24:06.082
was already aware of the fact that

00:24:06.142 --> 00:24:06.781
everything,

00:24:07.461 --> 00:24:08.923
the powers that shouldn't be tell us is

00:24:08.942 --> 00:24:10.263
a manufactured lie.

00:24:10.784 --> 00:24:12.244
So why wouldn't this be as well?

00:24:12.325 --> 00:24:12.805
So George,

00:24:12.825 --> 00:24:15.465
let me ask you about the Flat Earth

00:24:15.506 --> 00:24:16.826
Files podcast.

00:24:17.988 --> 00:24:19.548
What was the motivation behind that?

00:24:19.669 --> 00:24:21.128
And why didn't you just put it under

00:24:21.630 --> 00:24:23.309
the fact hunter?

00:24:23.329 --> 00:24:23.971
Great questions.

00:24:24.010 --> 00:24:25.612
And I'll try to stay more on track

00:24:25.632 --> 00:24:26.432
than the last time.

00:24:26.451 --> 00:24:28.292
No, it's all good, man.

00:24:28.313 --> 00:24:29.574
You're knocking it out of the park,

00:24:29.614 --> 00:24:29.874
really.

00:24:30.952 --> 00:24:32.894
So it was early in the fact hunter,

00:24:33.075 --> 00:24:35.178
I think at a probably maybe four or

00:24:35.198 --> 00:24:37.140
five months into the podcast.

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And I always tell I told people at

00:24:39.943 --> 00:24:40.565
the end, you know,

00:24:40.605 --> 00:24:41.766
send us an email if you'd like to

00:24:41.786 --> 00:24:42.146
come on.

00:24:42.267 --> 00:24:43.028
Love to have you.

00:24:43.228 --> 00:24:44.490
There's no topic, you know.

00:24:45.709 --> 00:24:46.769
that I don't want to touch.

00:24:46.869 --> 00:24:48.852
And then I checked my email one morning

00:24:49.412 --> 00:24:51.294
and it's from a guy named David Weiss.

00:24:51.513 --> 00:24:54.155
And the topic was flat earth.

00:24:54.195 --> 00:24:55.656
And I opened it up and I laughed.

00:24:56.317 --> 00:24:57.138
I thought, wow,

00:24:57.719 --> 00:24:58.980
I just thought this was something they

00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:01.182
said on television and the movies.

00:25:01.261 --> 00:25:01.883
I didn't really...

00:25:02.874 --> 00:25:05.635
realize that there was people who didn't

00:25:05.715 --> 00:25:07.196
believe we lived on a globe.

00:25:07.436 --> 00:25:08.959
You know, we were taught that.

00:25:09.098 --> 00:25:11.660
And this is you start to understand that's

00:25:11.740 --> 00:25:13.801
one of the earliest things that you're

00:25:13.842 --> 00:25:14.722
taught as a child.

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They even hang it above your crib.

00:25:16.683 --> 00:25:18.045
And if you go back and watch any

00:25:18.105 --> 00:25:21.528
movie or any TV show post-Nineteen fifty

00:25:21.627 --> 00:25:22.087
five,

00:25:22.488 --> 00:25:24.390
you're going to find a globe in that

00:25:24.430 --> 00:25:26.010
movie or TV show repeatedly.

00:25:26.711 --> 00:25:28.913
and the word global, all of those things.

00:25:29.012 --> 00:25:29.534
Universal,

00:25:29.554 --> 00:25:30.954
going back into the early nineteen

00:25:30.974 --> 00:25:33.016
hundreds, that logo is on there.

00:25:34.237 --> 00:25:37.000
So I deleted the email and I felt

00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:37.279
bad.

00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:38.441
The next day I go back into the

00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:40.281
trash, click on it, pull it back out.

00:25:40.643 --> 00:25:41.563
I emailed it and I was like,

00:25:41.583 --> 00:25:41.943
what's up?

00:25:42.084 --> 00:25:43.644
You know, actually,

00:25:43.724 --> 00:25:44.586
there was a link on there.

00:25:44.625 --> 00:25:45.826
He had an interview with somebody.

00:25:45.926 --> 00:25:46.928
He said, hey, check this out.

00:25:46.988 --> 00:25:48.348
I went and listened and it made a

00:25:48.469 --> 00:25:49.349
little bit of sense.

00:25:49.430 --> 00:25:49.970
I said, OK.

00:25:51.270 --> 00:25:53.153
And I scheduled him on, I think,

00:25:53.192 --> 00:25:55.855
two weeks down the road and I started

00:25:56.521 --> 00:25:59.364
going from one video to the next then

00:25:59.483 --> 00:26:01.925
i started looking into certain books and

00:26:01.965 --> 00:26:04.548
then i broke out the bible i had

00:26:04.567 --> 00:26:06.249
heard something on on one of the youtube

00:26:06.269 --> 00:26:08.411
videos and they mentioned this word

00:26:08.471 --> 00:26:12.814
firmament and um isaiah forty twenty two

00:26:12.894 --> 00:26:15.355
how god stopped the sun and the moon

00:26:15.435 --> 00:26:18.898
not the earth and you know in church

00:26:18.939 --> 00:26:21.279
the pastors always like to say be a

00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:24.201
berean and that's the group of folks

00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:28.503
Um, that is spoken about in Acts,

00:26:28.544 --> 00:26:29.463
verse eleven.

00:26:29.684 --> 00:26:30.085
And, you know,

00:26:30.105 --> 00:26:32.667
Paul comes into town and he's witnessing

00:26:32.688 --> 00:26:34.108
the gospel of Jesus Christ.

00:26:34.288 --> 00:26:36.070
And instead of just taking his word for

00:26:36.090 --> 00:26:36.131
it,

00:26:36.211 --> 00:26:37.772
they pull out the scriptures and they're

00:26:37.932 --> 00:26:38.173
okay.

00:26:38.192 --> 00:26:38.733
Yeah, that matches.

00:26:38.773 --> 00:26:38.973
Yep.

00:26:39.013 --> 00:26:39.213
Yep.

00:26:39.674 --> 00:26:40.675
That must be the word of God.

00:26:41.715 --> 00:26:43.136
So unlike what we do today, right?

00:26:43.196 --> 00:26:45.499
We'll go to the NIH's website.

00:26:45.538 --> 00:26:46.278
We'll go to Google.

00:26:46.298 --> 00:26:48.079
We'll go to WebMD instead of, hey,

00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:49.740
maybe we should look at the word of

00:26:49.800 --> 00:26:51.142
God first.

00:26:51.162 --> 00:26:52.222
So anyway, I reach out to him,

00:26:52.262 --> 00:26:52.943
schedule an interview.

00:26:52.983 --> 00:26:54.744
And after two weeks of trying to debunk

00:26:54.765 --> 00:26:55.224
this thing,

00:26:55.785 --> 00:26:57.365
and I mean two weeks of no sleep,

00:26:57.886 --> 00:26:58.826
and I mean no sleep,

00:26:58.906 --> 00:27:00.248
my world was turned upside down.

00:27:00.828 --> 00:27:02.930
That had probably a bigger impact on my

00:27:02.970 --> 00:27:04.851
life than on most outside of the

00:27:10.423 --> 00:27:11.223
And all of us, right?

00:27:13.984 --> 00:27:15.405
What was the name of that law they

00:27:15.425 --> 00:27:15.865
passed?

00:27:16.066 --> 00:27:18.227
The Patriot Act.

00:27:18.807 --> 00:27:20.688
The most patriotic act ever passed.

00:27:22.588 --> 00:27:24.109
You know, I had them on,

00:27:24.150 --> 00:27:25.871
and I had already become a Flat Earther

00:27:25.891 --> 00:27:26.830
by the time Dave came on,

00:27:26.851 --> 00:27:28.352
and we had a great conversation.

00:27:28.892 --> 00:27:32.433
And it was so exciting.

00:27:32.634 --> 00:27:34.015
You know, I said, I can't wait.

00:27:34.684 --> 00:27:35.704
After I recorded it, I said,

00:27:35.825 --> 00:27:37.425
I can't wait to put out this podcast.

00:27:37.486 --> 00:27:39.046
My audience is going to be blown away

00:27:39.445 --> 00:27:42.646
when I expose this lie that we live

00:27:42.686 --> 00:27:43.507
on a spinning ball.

00:27:44.027 --> 00:27:45.548
And I published the episode.

00:27:45.587 --> 00:27:46.627
And the next day, brother,

00:27:47.127 --> 00:27:49.429
I've got fifty emails saying that, man,

00:27:49.509 --> 00:27:50.888
I thought you were going to be a

00:27:50.949 --> 00:27:51.969
good podcast.

00:27:52.009 --> 00:27:55.309
You're just another crazy flat earther and

00:27:55.349 --> 00:27:55.970
everything else.

00:27:56.029 --> 00:27:58.451
And how many times in our lives have

00:27:58.471 --> 00:28:00.490
we been excited about a truth that we

00:28:00.530 --> 00:28:02.051
found and we go to tell somebody else

00:28:02.071 --> 00:28:03.132
and they just look at you like,

00:28:03.854 --> 00:28:04.634
Are you crazy?

00:28:05.993 --> 00:28:07.315
And even when you show them in the

00:28:07.394 --> 00:28:10.974
Bible word for word and you disprove their

00:28:11.035 --> 00:28:12.175
math like curvature,

00:28:12.215 --> 00:28:13.675
which can be easily debunked,

00:28:14.415 --> 00:28:16.556
and all the satanic numerology and

00:28:16.596 --> 00:28:17.517
heliocentrism,

00:28:18.636 --> 00:28:21.737
and even the great fathers of the church

00:28:21.777 --> 00:28:22.778
like Martin Luther,

00:28:22.817 --> 00:28:24.617
he called Copernicus a heretic.

00:28:24.678 --> 00:28:26.877
He said that was all nonsense.

00:28:27.637 --> 00:28:28.318
All of this stuff,

00:28:28.358 --> 00:28:29.959
including dispensationalism,

00:28:31.886 --> 00:28:33.188
has come around, you know,

00:28:33.208 --> 00:28:34.689
obviously Copernicus was five hundred

00:28:34.709 --> 00:28:35.170
years ago,

00:28:35.210 --> 00:28:37.351
but it didn't really start to take hold

00:28:38.152 --> 00:28:40.493
until the last couple of hundred years.

00:28:40.513 --> 00:28:41.713
And there's an old saying, Billy,

00:28:42.654 --> 00:28:44.395
if a doctrine is new,

00:28:45.517 --> 00:28:47.077
it's probably not sound.

00:28:47.179 --> 00:28:48.660
And if a doctrine is sound,

00:28:49.180 --> 00:28:50.661
it's probably not new.

00:28:51.461 --> 00:28:54.223
Dispensationalism, heliocentrism,

00:28:54.804 --> 00:28:57.946
evolution, Big Bang Theory.

00:28:58.955 --> 00:29:00.517
All of those things are to make you

00:29:00.537 --> 00:29:02.358
believe we live on a rock that has

00:29:02.398 --> 00:29:04.220
been spinning out of control for fourteen

00:29:04.259 --> 00:29:04.920
billion years.

00:29:05.340 --> 00:29:06.000
And what that does,

00:29:06.040 --> 00:29:07.342
it makes you a trivial,

00:29:08.123 --> 00:29:09.763
not special creation.

00:29:09.804 --> 00:29:11.665
When this world is only,

00:29:11.766 --> 00:29:12.526
according to the Bible,

00:29:12.566 --> 00:29:15.689
six thousand years old, God, imago Dei,

00:29:15.749 --> 00:29:15.989
right?

00:29:16.028 --> 00:29:17.710
You are made in God's image.

00:29:17.890 --> 00:29:19.612
And these people want to tell you, nope,

00:29:19.692 --> 00:29:20.612
you're not special.

00:29:21.053 --> 00:29:23.294
You're a blip on a fourteen billion year

00:29:23.354 --> 00:29:23.894
calendar.

00:29:25.749 --> 00:29:26.288
And yeah,

00:29:26.528 --> 00:29:29.891
that was when the scales completely fell

00:29:29.931 --> 00:29:30.550
from my eyes.

00:29:30.590 --> 00:29:32.251
If you have seen that movie, They Live,

00:29:32.711 --> 00:29:34.833
that was the moment the sunglasses went on

00:29:34.932 --> 00:29:36.634
and I could see the vaccines were fake.

00:29:37.273 --> 00:29:38.454
The globe was fake.

00:29:40.175 --> 00:29:41.256
And sure,

00:29:41.896 --> 00:29:44.157
there's been one or two times when I

00:29:44.198 --> 00:29:46.019
wish I could un-red pill myself.

00:29:46.078 --> 00:29:46.598
Not really.

00:29:47.878 --> 00:29:49.880
But I'll tell you what.

00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:50.160
Go ahead.

00:29:50.181 --> 00:29:50.461
I'm sorry.

00:29:50.780 --> 00:29:51.780
No, no, go right ahead.

00:29:51.861 --> 00:29:52.521
I thought you were done.

00:29:52.862 --> 00:29:53.862
I think we have a little bit of

00:29:53.882 --> 00:29:55.222
a delay here, but as you were.

00:29:56.161 --> 00:29:56.601
no, no, no.

00:29:56.661 --> 00:29:57.781
I was just saying it was such,

00:29:59.102 --> 00:29:59.843
but it also, there,

00:29:59.863 --> 00:30:04.644
there is a disconnect from people who were

00:30:04.805 --> 00:30:07.546
not awake because for me, Billy,

00:30:07.586 --> 00:30:09.086
it's so boring to have a conversation

00:30:09.106 --> 00:30:10.446
about the football game yesterday.

00:30:10.768 --> 00:30:11.928
And I used to live and die with

00:30:11.948 --> 00:30:13.528
the Eagles and live and die with the

00:30:13.588 --> 00:30:14.028
Phillies.

00:30:14.868 --> 00:30:16.529
And now it's just so meaningless to me.

00:30:16.829 --> 00:30:19.151
And I'll sit down and watch a game,

00:30:19.731 --> 00:30:22.813
but I'd rather be, be, you know,

00:30:22.833 --> 00:30:24.554
looking for the truth and, and, uh,

00:30:25.955 --> 00:30:27.396
witnessing to people and trying to get

00:30:27.416 --> 00:30:29.116
them to understand that the prince of the

00:30:29.136 --> 00:30:30.397
power of the air, that is Satan,

00:30:30.438 --> 00:30:32.358
he is the one who is controlling all

00:30:32.398 --> 00:30:32.818
of this stuff.

00:30:32.838 --> 00:30:34.539
And the people who are in the most

00:30:34.700 --> 00:30:37.240
high positions in this world, listen,

00:30:37.260 --> 00:30:38.040
it's WWE.

00:30:38.060 --> 00:30:39.241
They have to have the good guys and

00:30:39.261 --> 00:30:40.462
they have to have the bad guys.

00:30:40.742 --> 00:30:42.482
And that's how they divide and conquer us.

00:30:42.502 --> 00:30:43.723
But yeah,

00:30:44.003 --> 00:30:45.625
I wouldn't trade it for anything.

00:30:46.806 --> 00:30:46.905
Well,

00:30:46.945 --> 00:30:48.548
it seems so many of us are so

00:30:48.587 --> 00:30:49.848
content to be, you know,

00:30:49.949 --> 00:30:51.769
spoon fed this garbage at the bottom of

00:30:51.809 --> 00:30:52.631
Plato's cave.

00:30:54.031 --> 00:30:54.712
And like you,

00:30:56.294 --> 00:30:57.394
I don't know that I went into it

00:30:57.555 --> 00:31:00.117
as kicking and scratching as maybe you

00:31:00.157 --> 00:31:00.417
were,

00:31:00.478 --> 00:31:02.960
because I was already I was wide awake

00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:03.621
to nine eleven.

00:31:03.661 --> 00:31:05.021
I was wide awake to this and that

00:31:05.041 --> 00:31:05.722
and that and this.

00:31:06.303 --> 00:31:07.723
All I needed was one thing right off

00:31:07.763 --> 00:31:08.085
the bat.

00:31:08.105 --> 00:31:08.825
And I was like, OK,

00:31:08.845 --> 00:31:10.826
the fact that I can see entirely too

00:31:10.866 --> 00:31:11.086
far.

00:31:12.087 --> 00:31:13.249
Debunks anything they said.

00:31:13.990 --> 00:31:14.911
I don't need anything else.

00:31:14.931 --> 00:31:16.192
Somebody will say, well, what about this?

00:31:16.232 --> 00:31:17.314
What about no, no, no, no, no, no,

00:31:17.953 --> 00:31:18.154
no.

00:31:18.795 --> 00:31:21.018
We and I can't even tell you how

00:31:21.038 --> 00:31:22.038
many pilots I know.

00:31:23.059 --> 00:31:24.761
One of them, a former Marine Corps pilot.

00:31:24.781 --> 00:31:25.843
I say, hey, when you're up there,

00:31:25.863 --> 00:31:27.285
he's now flying for American Airlines.

00:31:27.305 --> 00:31:28.726
I'm like, hey, when you're up there,

00:31:29.247 --> 00:31:30.087
do you see a curve?

00:31:30.607 --> 00:31:31.509
No, I don't.

00:31:32.589 --> 00:31:35.471
And that to me tells me everything I

00:31:35.511 --> 00:31:35.951
need to know.

00:31:36.031 --> 00:31:36.251
I mean,

00:31:36.432 --> 00:31:37.772
I don't care what man has to say

00:31:37.792 --> 00:31:38.333
at this point.

00:31:39.093 --> 00:31:39.413
You know,

00:31:39.452 --> 00:31:42.315
there's a reason in classical in a

00:31:42.335 --> 00:31:43.474
classical education.

00:31:43.535 --> 00:31:45.875
You're you were once taught the trivium

00:31:45.915 --> 00:31:47.176
and it was taught in America about one

00:31:47.196 --> 00:31:48.778
hundred and fifty till about one hundred

00:31:48.798 --> 00:31:49.778
and fifty years ago.

00:31:50.638 --> 00:31:52.199
And through that grammar,

00:31:52.259 --> 00:31:53.160
logic and rhetoric.

00:31:53.900 --> 00:31:55.381
one of the key things you would do

00:31:55.441 --> 00:31:58.843
was examine your own personal experience

00:31:58.863 --> 00:32:00.523
of what you can observe what you can

00:32:00.564 --> 00:32:03.265
see what you can touch and it's funny

00:32:03.305 --> 00:32:05.226
like you said i went back i couldn't

00:32:05.246 --> 00:32:06.487
believe there was somebody to put out a

00:32:06.507 --> 00:32:09.288
video showed all these different globes

00:32:09.368 --> 00:32:11.190
out there and in fact i think i

00:32:11.250 --> 00:32:13.151
told raul i found a i was at

00:32:13.191 --> 00:32:15.051
a um i was at one of the

00:32:15.112 --> 00:32:17.113
local towns here and they had like a

00:32:17.212 --> 00:32:18.913
hundred year old or a hundred and twenty

00:32:18.933 --> 00:32:20.095
year old dictionary

00:32:20.790 --> 00:32:21.711
I looked up firmament.

00:32:22.633 --> 00:32:24.054
And of course,

00:32:24.294 --> 00:32:25.914
it's not the definition we have now.

00:32:25.954 --> 00:32:27.516
I wish I had kept the picture of

00:32:27.536 --> 00:32:27.616
it,

00:32:28.176 --> 00:32:29.938
looked up the word firmament and what it

00:32:29.978 --> 00:32:30.259
meant.

00:32:31.098 --> 00:32:33.101
And then I also looked up some other

00:32:33.121 --> 00:32:34.582
things that I know we can't get into

00:32:34.642 --> 00:32:36.123
regarding the Holocaust and some other

00:32:36.163 --> 00:32:36.423
things.

00:32:37.124 --> 00:32:39.385
But there's a whole variety of things that

00:32:39.526 --> 00:32:41.247
everybody fundamentally believes that are

00:32:41.367 --> 00:32:42.929
nothing more than manufactured lies,

00:32:42.949 --> 00:32:43.890
as I said a moment ago.

00:32:44.349 --> 00:32:46.832
Well, let's get into the book, because,

00:32:47.553 --> 00:32:48.773
George, if I'm not careful,

00:32:49.636 --> 00:32:50.298
I could honestly,

00:32:50.337 --> 00:32:51.780
there's not a question I asked you so

00:32:51.820 --> 00:32:53.983
far that we couldn't make an entire show

00:32:54.044 --> 00:32:54.244
out of.

00:32:54.305 --> 00:32:56.587
So we're going to definitely have to have

00:32:56.607 --> 00:32:57.088
you back.

00:32:59.363 --> 00:33:00.063
Good night.

00:33:00.203 --> 00:33:01.924
When I heard you were writing this book,

00:33:02.464 --> 00:33:03.685
when you came out with it on your

00:33:03.726 --> 00:33:04.747
podcast, I was like, okay,

00:33:04.787 --> 00:33:05.307
I gotta get it.

00:33:05.366 --> 00:33:06.106
And by the way, folks,

00:33:06.147 --> 00:33:07.127
here it is right here.

00:33:07.848 --> 00:33:09.829
I bought this thing two weeks ago,

00:33:10.009 --> 00:33:12.471
exposing dispensationalism,

00:33:12.632 --> 00:33:15.693
how an invented prophetic system reshaped

00:33:15.794 --> 00:33:16.875
modern Christianity.

00:33:17.414 --> 00:33:18.895
I bought this thing about two weeks ago,

00:33:18.935 --> 00:33:19.336
but folks,

00:33:19.415 --> 00:33:20.636
I got a stack of books on the

00:33:20.656 --> 00:33:21.617
coffee table down there,

00:33:21.718 --> 00:33:22.739
and this is that time of year

00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:24.799
where I'm going at a hundred miles an

00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:26.461
hour, usually when a guest comes on,

00:33:26.521 --> 00:33:29.144
I will have at least read part of

00:33:29.163 --> 00:33:29.483
the book.

00:33:29.545 --> 00:33:31.385
But I think George and I are coming

00:33:31.405 --> 00:33:33.428
from the same place here because I was

00:33:33.508 --> 00:33:35.670
raised a dispensational person.

00:33:36.651 --> 00:33:37.892
Um, in every,

00:33:38.031 --> 00:33:39.693
in every part of my existence growing up,

00:33:39.733 --> 00:33:41.134
I mean, it was all dispensational,

00:33:41.655 --> 00:33:42.977
even Clarence Larkin stuff,

00:33:43.037 --> 00:33:45.118
dispensational truths and all that kind of

00:33:45.138 --> 00:33:46.119
stuff that I was taught.

00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:48.000
And then you talk about,

00:33:48.121 --> 00:33:49.722
I think the way you describe the,

00:33:50.821 --> 00:33:54.364
your introduction to biblical earth is

00:33:54.523 --> 00:33:57.125
what I had when I discovered that, hey,

00:33:57.345 --> 00:34:00.166
this was all, C.I.

00:34:00.207 --> 00:34:02.928
Schofield was a complete charlatan.

00:34:03.147 --> 00:34:05.648
Everything I was taught was a complete

00:34:05.689 --> 00:34:05.909
lie.

00:34:05.929 --> 00:34:06.108
Now,

00:34:06.128 --> 00:34:07.450
I didn't have this eureka moment

00:34:07.490 --> 00:34:08.550
necessarily on flat earth,

00:34:08.570 --> 00:34:10.572
but I definitely did when it came to

00:34:10.592 --> 00:34:11.271
this information.

00:34:11.331 --> 00:34:14.253
So instead of me monologuing on like this,

00:34:15.753 --> 00:34:17.494
what made you feel compelled to write this

00:34:17.554 --> 00:34:17.775
book,

00:34:17.855 --> 00:34:19.175
even though I think it needs to be

00:34:19.215 --> 00:34:19.456
written?

00:34:20.467 --> 00:34:23.708
so this book had more than one kind

00:34:23.748 --> 00:34:26.070
of why i should write this book one

00:34:26.751 --> 00:34:28.853
was like you and i i was in

00:34:28.893 --> 00:34:33.235
the military and americans support war

00:34:33.295 --> 00:34:35.817
because of the evangelical church and

00:34:35.856 --> 00:34:39.440
dispensationalism uh israel good everybody

00:34:39.500 --> 00:34:45.083
else bad number two this false worship uh

00:34:45.163 --> 00:34:47.324
false worship pardon me of the

00:34:47.364 --> 00:34:49.045
geopolitical state of israel

00:34:49.815 --> 00:34:51.896
Within the church, I want you to,

00:34:51.936 --> 00:34:53.655
sometimes you have to just take a moment,

00:34:53.695 --> 00:34:55.295
sit down and break things down to their

00:34:55.596 --> 00:34:56.976
lowest common denominator.

00:34:57.677 --> 00:35:00.637
These churches like John Hagee and Dr.

00:35:00.677 --> 00:35:03.057
Jeremiah, who, by the way, Dr. Jeremiah,

00:35:04.498 --> 00:35:06.199
I'm not saying he doesn't love the Lord.

00:35:06.858 --> 00:35:09.980
He's just disillusioned because understand

00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:11.619
that these people infiltrated the Bible

00:35:11.659 --> 00:35:13.320
college, like the Moody Bible college,

00:35:13.340 --> 00:35:15.340
I think in Chicago, the Dallas seminary,

00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.581
and even I think Philadelphia before they

00:35:17.621 --> 00:35:18.282
changed their name.

00:35:20.791 --> 00:35:23.313
so you know over the last fifty years

00:35:23.333 --> 00:35:26.193
you have these pastors in a pulpit in

00:35:26.233 --> 00:35:28.094
a pulpit during a church service saying

00:35:28.135 --> 00:35:30.717
that they should turn iran or iraq into

00:35:30.757 --> 00:35:33.599
a parking lot so again break it down

00:35:33.659 --> 00:35:35.559
to its lowest common denominator you're

00:35:35.579 --> 00:35:38.181
having pastors saying that we should take

00:35:38.222 --> 00:35:40.182
the lives of god's creation

00:35:41.536 --> 00:35:45.639
And support the people who hate Jesus

00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:46.059
Christ.

00:35:46.300 --> 00:35:48.460
And if you think I'm understating that,

00:35:49.001 --> 00:35:50.601
then you have never taken a moment to

00:35:50.682 --> 00:35:53.043
read the Talmud or understand the entire

00:35:53.083 --> 00:35:54.664
New Testament of the Bible,

00:35:54.985 --> 00:35:57.126
which is the Jews rejecting Jesus.

00:35:57.246 --> 00:35:59.887
But they were able to infiltrate,

00:35:59.947 --> 00:36:00.989
and I'll keep it very light, brother,

00:36:01.009 --> 00:36:02.088
we're on YouTube, I understand.

00:36:03.329 --> 00:36:05.650
They were able to infiltrate the Bible

00:36:05.690 --> 00:36:06.291
seminaries,

00:36:07.414 --> 00:36:10.418
And that's what I texted Raul today.

00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:12.239
I said the two greatest,

00:36:13.902 --> 00:36:15.423
two of the biggest, I should say,

00:36:15.483 --> 00:36:18.067
deceptions in our lifetime is to get

00:36:18.367 --> 00:36:20.329
people to believe that we're on a spinning

00:36:20.369 --> 00:36:20.648
ball.

00:36:20.708 --> 00:36:22.251
And if you want to break your calculator,

00:36:23.172 --> 00:36:25.074
according to their science, you know,

00:36:25.094 --> 00:36:26.896
we've been here for fourteen billion years

00:36:26.996 --> 00:36:28.797
and look how fast the solar system's

00:36:28.858 --> 00:36:29.318
traveling.

00:36:30.472 --> 00:36:32.032
How far have we traveled in fourteen

00:36:32.052 --> 00:36:32.753
billion years?

00:36:33.432 --> 00:36:35.014
You know, Occam's razor,

00:36:35.054 --> 00:36:37.775
the simplest explanation normally is.

00:36:38.275 --> 00:36:40.817
But the two biggest deceits Satan has put

00:36:40.876 --> 00:36:42.617
on the people is that we're on a

00:36:42.657 --> 00:36:45.639
spinning ball and that the people who love

00:36:45.699 --> 00:36:46.639
Jesus, I'm sorry,

00:36:46.998 --> 00:36:48.940
the people who despise Jesus must be

00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:50.440
revered.

00:36:50.541 --> 00:36:52.041
And the last church I went to,

00:36:52.282 --> 00:36:53.322
I had a lot of heart to hearts

00:36:53.342 --> 00:36:54.902
with the pastor and he understood that,

00:36:54.983 --> 00:36:55.282
yeah,

00:36:56.344 --> 00:36:57.523
John, John, fourteen,

00:36:57.563 --> 00:36:59.065
six says he is the way he is

00:36:59.105 --> 00:36:59.625
the truth.

00:36:59.644 --> 00:37:00.364
He is the life.

00:37:00.585 --> 00:37:03.786
No man comes to the father except through

00:37:03.965 --> 00:37:04.146
me.

00:37:04.306 --> 00:37:05.987
There's no I look many times, Billy.

00:37:06.007 --> 00:37:07.706
There's no asterisk at the end of there.

00:37:07.726 --> 00:37:08.748
There's no dual covenant.

00:37:09.507 --> 00:37:10.367
And he was an older guy.

00:37:10.407 --> 00:37:11.867
He yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:37:11.909 --> 00:37:12.989
But during the services,

00:37:13.009 --> 00:37:14.068
it was all Israel.

00:37:14.528 --> 00:37:15.349
Pray for Israel.

00:37:15.429 --> 00:37:15.650
Yeah.

00:37:15.690 --> 00:37:17.329
Pray for Israel that they fall on their

00:37:17.349 --> 00:37:18.469
knees and accept Christ.

00:37:19.210 --> 00:37:19.771
And, you know,

00:37:19.871 --> 00:37:21.931
I'll tell these folks there's more

00:37:21.971 --> 00:37:23.831
Christians in Syria and Iran.

00:37:25.436 --> 00:37:27.976
in North Korea, in China, than in Israel.

00:37:28.056 --> 00:37:29.677
Less than one percent of the population

00:37:30.038 --> 00:37:30.637
follows Christ.

00:37:31.338 --> 00:37:32.679
You want to talk about persecution.

00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:34.619
You tell somebody over there that you love

00:37:34.659 --> 00:37:35.099
Christ,

00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:37.840
and that's where the Noahide laws come in.

00:37:37.860 --> 00:37:39.222
And we can save that for another day,

00:37:39.242 --> 00:37:40.981
but if you don't understand how deep these

00:37:41.001 --> 00:37:42.123
Noahide laws go,

00:37:42.583 --> 00:37:45.023
and the part about worshiping false idols,

00:37:45.264 --> 00:37:47.844
and what they consider Jesus,

00:37:48.644 --> 00:37:50.146
and what the punishment is,

00:37:51.085 --> 00:37:52.266
it's a very deep rabbit hole.

00:37:53.922 --> 00:37:54.081
Yeah,

00:37:54.101 --> 00:37:55.463
it was important for me to get it

00:37:55.583 --> 00:37:57.543
out because the churches are broken.

00:37:57.583 --> 00:37:58.244
And by the way,

00:37:59.065 --> 00:38:00.126
I'll give you a sneak preview.

00:38:00.425 --> 00:38:01.786
This isn't going to be up till Christmas.

00:38:02.027 --> 00:38:03.286
This is just the first edition.

00:38:03.728 --> 00:38:05.668
This book's called Return to Scripture,

00:38:05.728 --> 00:38:07.050
The Church We Were Called to Be.

00:38:07.849 --> 00:38:09.451
And I have been in so many churches

00:38:09.471 --> 00:38:10.472
since I moved back here.

00:38:10.911 --> 00:38:12.672
And they're either zero discipleship or

00:38:12.693 --> 00:38:14.153
they have women pastors.

00:38:14.273 --> 00:38:15.835
And I'm not denigrating women.

00:38:15.914 --> 00:38:16.574
It's just very clear.

00:38:16.614 --> 00:38:18.295
The Bible says there shouldn't be women

00:38:18.335 --> 00:38:18.735
pastors.

00:38:18.775 --> 00:38:20.157
Don't come at George.

00:38:20.396 --> 00:38:22.498
Paul wrote it divinely inspired through

00:38:22.518 --> 00:38:22.739
God.

00:38:24.385 --> 00:38:26.086
or there's no discipleship whatsoever,

00:38:26.226 --> 00:38:27.907
or they're pushing this dispensational

00:38:28.027 --> 00:38:28.688
nonsense.

00:38:28.987 --> 00:38:33.289
And so I entered seminary about a year

00:38:33.309 --> 00:38:33.969
and a half ago,

00:38:34.269 --> 00:38:36.471
and I'll be finishing up in the spring.

00:38:36.510 --> 00:38:39.132
And I say I'm planning a church,

00:38:39.172 --> 00:38:40.791
but I'm not sure exactly, Billy,

00:38:40.851 --> 00:38:42.432
what type of church the Lord wants me

00:38:42.452 --> 00:38:42.913
to plant,

00:38:43.112 --> 00:38:44.954
or if it's going to be a revival

00:38:44.974 --> 00:38:45.614
moving from town.

00:38:45.753 --> 00:38:46.974
I don't know what the Lord wants me

00:38:46.994 --> 00:38:47.755
to do right now,

00:38:48.454 --> 00:38:49.536
but I know we got to get out

00:38:49.596 --> 00:38:50.596
there and

00:38:52.664 --> 00:38:54.969
wake people up more than just nine,

00:38:55.009 --> 00:38:56.030
eleven and vaccine.

00:38:56.070 --> 00:38:57.592
Those things are extremely important,

00:38:58.414 --> 00:39:01.760
but also understand that there's a world

00:39:01.820 --> 00:39:03.842
beyond this life and we've really got to

00:39:03.862 --> 00:39:05.385
get people on board and get them to

00:39:05.445 --> 00:39:06.106
read their Bible,

00:39:06.186 --> 00:39:06.728
not let

00:39:07.737 --> 00:39:09.478
A pastor tell them what is the truth,

00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:09.918
right?

00:39:10.539 --> 00:39:13.443
They'll take the pastor's sermon as

00:39:13.503 --> 00:39:14.063
gospel,

00:39:14.103 --> 00:39:15.724
but they won't even read the gospel for

00:39:15.744 --> 00:39:16.246
themselves.

00:39:16.266 --> 00:39:17.527
And I say that at my podcast.

00:39:17.567 --> 00:39:19.047
Don't take my word for it.

00:39:19.068 --> 00:39:20.829
Take what I say, write it down,

00:39:20.949 --> 00:39:22.172
and then do your own research.

00:39:22.512 --> 00:39:24.193
That's the reason we're in the situation

00:39:24.233 --> 00:39:24.914
we are to begin with,

00:39:24.954 --> 00:39:26.735
because you believe somebody without

00:39:26.775 --> 00:39:27.376
looking into it.

00:39:28.516 --> 00:39:30.478
Sadly, so many of these so-called pastors,

00:39:30.538 --> 00:39:31.838
I mean, from my standpoint,

00:39:31.898 --> 00:39:33.539
are just nothing more than hirelings.

00:39:33.860 --> 00:39:34.141
I mean,

00:39:34.340 --> 00:39:37.023
I've seen over and over and over,

00:39:37.063 --> 00:39:40.545
like you, I was appalled that people are,

00:39:40.565 --> 00:39:42.907
that so-called pastors here in the United

00:39:42.947 --> 00:39:45.670
States of Amnesia are calling for the

00:39:45.829 --> 00:39:49.373
death of fellow Christians in Gaza and all

00:39:49.413 --> 00:39:50.173
these other places.

00:39:50.653 --> 00:39:52.755
It is just absolutely sickening.

00:39:53.396 --> 00:39:54.056
And sadly,

00:39:54.157 --> 00:39:56.878
so many other people out there are just

00:39:56.938 --> 00:39:57.699
so easily

00:39:58.978 --> 00:40:00.019
And I know we blame a lot of

00:40:00.059 --> 00:40:00.820
boomers out there.

00:40:00.981 --> 00:40:01.501
I get it.

00:40:02.041 --> 00:40:03.101
I do a lot of it right here

00:40:03.141 --> 00:40:04.083
on this program as well,

00:40:04.202 --> 00:40:05.704
although there are a number of them.

00:40:06.364 --> 00:40:08.126
I will say ninety percent of the ones

00:40:08.206 --> 00:40:08.766
I come across,

00:40:08.806 --> 00:40:12.108
maybe ninety five are absolutely Fox News,

00:40:12.909 --> 00:40:13.570
blah, blah, blah.

00:40:13.590 --> 00:40:14.471
Couldn't care less.

00:40:14.570 --> 00:40:16.711
I mean, wouldn't even, you know,

00:40:16.952 --> 00:40:18.414
examine any of this stuff.

00:40:19.213 --> 00:40:20.974
But there are a few out there and

00:40:21.014 --> 00:40:22.536
we have a number of them that listen

00:40:22.556 --> 00:40:23.597
to this program as well.

00:40:24.217 --> 00:40:25.418
George, I got to ask you.

00:40:27.797 --> 00:40:31.297
I've covered some of the – not entirely.

00:40:31.358 --> 00:40:32.717
I haven't done an entire show on it.

00:40:33.619 --> 00:40:36.498
But I have kind of skirted around C.I.

00:40:36.539 --> 00:40:38.460
Schofield and the Plymouth Brethren and

00:40:38.500 --> 00:40:39.280
all these other guys.

00:40:42.240 --> 00:40:44.081
Why don't you – I don't know to

00:40:44.121 --> 00:40:44.981
what extent you're able,

00:40:45.141 --> 00:40:46.882
but can you talk to us about where

00:40:46.922 --> 00:40:49.083
dispensationalism – because there are

00:40:49.123 --> 00:40:51.224
probably some people glazing over when we

00:40:51.264 --> 00:40:51.864
talk about that.

00:40:52.284 --> 00:40:54.603
Can you tell us where it originated and

00:40:54.804 --> 00:40:56.224
how it became what it is today?

00:40:57.112 --> 00:40:57.893
Yeah, and again,

00:40:57.932 --> 00:41:02.614
the New Testament was written between,

00:41:02.735 --> 00:41:02.954
I think,

00:41:02.994 --> 00:41:05.155
First Thessalonians was written in AD.

00:41:05.815 --> 00:41:07.516
Depending on who you ask, Revelations,

00:41:07.556 --> 00:41:09.097
some people say it was AD,

00:41:09.117 --> 00:41:11.018
but most people say it was AD.

00:41:11.077 --> 00:41:13.458
So you're talking about an eighteen

00:41:13.498 --> 00:41:15.239
hundred year difference between the New

00:41:15.259 --> 00:41:17.579
Testament being produced and

00:41:17.699 --> 00:41:20.561
dispensationalism kind of being created.

00:41:20.601 --> 00:41:21.681
There was a guy by the name of

00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:22.742
John Nelson Darby.

00:41:23.503 --> 00:41:24.525
In the eighteen thirties.

00:41:24.826 --> 00:41:25.306
And again,

00:41:25.425 --> 00:41:27.007
you're talking about two hundred years

00:41:27.047 --> 00:41:27.329
ago.

00:41:27.389 --> 00:41:29.510
So the stories vary on how he came

00:41:29.550 --> 00:41:30.052
upon it.

00:41:31.052 --> 00:41:33.076
And he kind of created it.

00:41:34.097 --> 00:41:34.878
And then C.I.

00:41:34.958 --> 00:41:37.201
Schofield and others kind of ran with it.

00:41:38.177 --> 00:41:41.302
And the big nail in the proverbial coffin

00:41:41.342 --> 00:41:42.143
was when C.I.

00:41:42.182 --> 00:41:42.923
Schofield, who,

00:41:43.103 --> 00:41:45.668
as Billy mentioned correctly earlier,

00:41:45.728 --> 00:41:46.989
he was not a good man.

00:41:47.809 --> 00:41:48.992
He left his family.

00:41:49.172 --> 00:41:50.333
He was a charlatan.

00:41:50.974 --> 00:41:54.418
And he creates the Schofield Reference

00:41:54.518 --> 00:41:54.938
Bible,

00:41:54.958 --> 00:41:55.800
which actually

00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:58.541
I want to say it was right around

00:41:58.581 --> 00:42:00.902
page one thousand in his footnotes.

00:42:00.961 --> 00:42:01.842
It's a reference Bible,

00:42:01.862 --> 00:42:03.641
so he puts his own footnotes in there

00:42:04.322 --> 00:42:07.043
to get people to sway into the Zionism,

00:42:07.083 --> 00:42:07.583
etc.

00:42:08.663 --> 00:42:10.724
And he even mentions the Talmud and its

00:42:10.923 --> 00:42:11.583
heresy.

00:42:12.103 --> 00:42:14.105
He's the one who kind of came up

00:42:14.144 --> 00:42:15.224
with the pre-trib,

00:42:16.605 --> 00:42:18.865
the pre-tribulation rapture,

00:42:19.286 --> 00:42:22.925
which there's a big stretch from Greek

00:42:22.965 --> 00:42:25.646
harpaza when it says caught up in the

00:42:25.726 --> 00:42:25.827
air.

00:42:26.876 --> 00:42:29.297
That refers to the Greek word harpaza and

00:42:29.317 --> 00:42:31.217
then a Latin word raptura.

00:42:31.538 --> 00:42:33.699
And then they decided it was a rapture.

00:42:33.739 --> 00:42:36.981
And this theology says Jesus has to come

00:42:37.001 --> 00:42:37.581
back twice,

00:42:37.740 --> 00:42:40.422
once to pull us up before the tribulation.

00:42:41.362 --> 00:42:42.023
And then again,

00:42:43.103 --> 00:42:44.824
he comes down for his new kingdom.

00:42:45.284 --> 00:42:47.144
And the entire New Testament is about

00:42:47.204 --> 00:42:50.005
persecution and suffering of Christians.

00:42:50.266 --> 00:42:52.867
And it's just amazing to me the mental

00:42:52.927 --> 00:42:55.309
gymnastics that you have to do to buy

00:42:55.409 --> 00:42:55.608
off

00:42:56.617 --> 00:42:57.838
on dispensationalism.

00:42:57.878 --> 00:42:59.038
And if you just sit down and read

00:42:59.057 --> 00:43:00.579
the Olivet Discourse in Matthew twenty

00:43:00.619 --> 00:43:03.940
four into twenty five and correlate that

00:43:03.980 --> 00:43:06.061
with Revelation six, there's so many.

00:43:07.902 --> 00:43:08.822
It just makes sense.

00:43:08.862 --> 00:43:10.603
And he even mentions the olive tree in

00:43:10.663 --> 00:43:11.083
both of them.

00:43:11.123 --> 00:43:13.043
That's how amazing the Bible is.

00:43:13.083 --> 00:43:15.965
But dispensationalism is that certain

00:43:16.885 --> 00:43:19.346
parts of the Bible are different sets of

00:43:19.385 --> 00:43:21.007
time and there's different stories.

00:43:21.447 --> 00:43:23.608
And it's very clear that, you know,

00:43:24.713 --> 00:43:26.134
This is one continuous story.

00:43:26.173 --> 00:43:27.635
The New Testament complements the Old

00:43:27.655 --> 00:43:28.056
Testament.

00:43:29.217 --> 00:43:31.920
The most misunderstood text in all of the

00:43:31.940 --> 00:43:33.380
Bible is Genesis twenty-two.

00:43:33.902 --> 00:43:35.342
Most pastors won't even touch it in their

00:43:35.402 --> 00:43:35.724
pulpit.

00:43:35.744 --> 00:43:38.567
It was one of my favorite sermons I

00:43:38.626 --> 00:43:41.228
did because that's when Abraham went up

00:43:41.268 --> 00:43:42.630
Mount Moriah with Isaac.

00:43:42.670 --> 00:43:43.992
It took him three days, by the way.

00:43:44.992 --> 00:43:46.193
How long was Jesus in the tomb?

00:43:46.233 --> 00:43:46.733
Three days.

00:43:47.793 --> 00:43:50.476
Isaac asks dad, where's the sacrifice?

00:43:50.516 --> 00:43:53.217
And Abraham says, the Lord will provide.

00:43:53.277 --> 00:43:54.538
And the Lord provides for us.

00:43:54.938 --> 00:43:57.159
He sets Abraham on the altar,

00:43:57.219 --> 00:43:58.239
raises his knife,

00:43:58.360 --> 00:43:59.960
and the God and the angels say,

00:44:00.021 --> 00:44:01.420
don't touch that child.

00:44:02.101 --> 00:44:04.523
God is showing us that not only will

00:44:04.583 --> 00:44:06.463
he never ask us to do something that

00:44:06.503 --> 00:44:08.184
he wouldn't do, he will go further.

00:44:08.224 --> 00:44:11.547
Because when Jesus got on the cross,

00:44:11.586 --> 00:44:12.686
God did not stop that.

00:44:12.746 --> 00:44:13.768
He allowed that to happen.

00:44:14.431 --> 00:44:18.635
and um you know they abraham looked over

00:44:18.655 --> 00:44:21.016
and saw a ram in the thicket and

00:44:21.056 --> 00:44:23.518
they sacrificed the ram the from the ram

00:44:23.538 --> 00:44:25.699
to the lamb god always provides that's why

00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:28.840
they named mount moriah uh he will provide

00:44:29.521 --> 00:44:31.943
and um it's just so amazing but they

00:44:32.362 --> 00:44:34.244
take this the dispensationalists they take

00:44:34.324 --> 00:44:35.704
all of these scriptures they twist them

00:44:35.744 --> 00:44:38.266
around and this dual covenant you know

00:44:39.007 --> 00:44:41.429
well after the rapture the jews are gonna

00:44:42.503 --> 00:44:43.523
They're going to come around.

00:44:43.563 --> 00:44:45.764
There's a whole other covenant for them.

00:44:45.804 --> 00:44:47.545
So they almost put this dual covenant

00:44:47.606 --> 00:44:50.146
theology into it where, well, Christians,

00:44:50.186 --> 00:44:51.507
you have to accept Christ,

00:44:52.088 --> 00:44:53.349
as stated in John, fourteen,

00:44:53.389 --> 00:44:54.550
six and everywhere else in the New

00:44:54.590 --> 00:44:55.030
Testament.

00:44:55.070 --> 00:44:56.050
But if you're a Jew,

00:44:57.010 --> 00:44:57.630
don't worry about it.

00:44:57.650 --> 00:44:58.072
You're good.

00:44:58.851 --> 00:44:59.152
You know,

00:44:59.532 --> 00:45:01.713
and it's just the most ridiculous thing.

00:45:01.994 --> 00:45:04.054
And it it saddens me to such a

00:45:04.114 --> 00:45:06.356
certain extent that people will stand in

00:45:06.396 --> 00:45:06.876
the altar,

00:45:06.916 --> 00:45:08.456
guys who had spent four years in Bible

00:45:08.496 --> 00:45:09.998
college with the words right in front of

00:45:10.018 --> 00:45:10.978
them and still believe

00:45:12.420 --> 00:45:14.721
and hang flags in their church, that six,

00:45:14.742 --> 00:45:17.742
six, six flag in their church.

00:45:18.103 --> 00:45:19.204
I've been in churches where they're

00:45:19.244 --> 00:45:20.824
hanging the flag behind the altar.

00:45:20.844 --> 00:45:21.684
And I'm like, this is,

00:45:22.385 --> 00:45:23.786
these people are going to bring back the

00:45:23.826 --> 00:45:25.626
third temple and sacrifice.

00:45:25.646 --> 00:45:27.327
They're going to start sacrificing again

00:45:27.347 --> 00:45:28.989
because they rejected the Messiah.

00:45:29.588 --> 00:45:32.110
You are worshiping a false Messiah and

00:45:32.610 --> 00:45:35.811
dispensationalism has a lot of different

00:45:35.831 --> 00:45:37.012
kind of tentacles to it.

00:45:37.733 --> 00:45:39.253
It affects the tribulation.

00:45:40.195 --> 00:45:41.094
It makes people,

00:45:41.965 --> 00:45:42.226
Again,

00:45:42.525 --> 00:45:45.168
it puts Israel on a different pedestal

00:45:45.188 --> 00:45:45.648
than us,

00:45:46.728 --> 00:45:49.351
and it is just broken theology that needs

00:45:49.431 --> 00:45:51.333
to be exposed.

00:45:51.373 --> 00:45:53.014
And that's why I wrote the book Exposing

00:45:53.074 --> 00:45:53.934
Dispensationalism.

00:45:53.994 --> 00:45:55.315
Again, I went on a terrible tantrum.

00:45:56.235 --> 00:45:57.117
I'm usually a host, too.

00:45:57.197 --> 00:45:58.637
I'm not a guest very often,

00:45:58.677 --> 00:46:00.039
so I apologize if I'm ranting.

00:46:00.753 --> 00:46:02.014
No, you're doing a great job,

00:46:02.235 --> 00:46:03.817
and you're laying it out there in a

00:46:03.896 --> 00:46:07.039
way that I've kind of covered in some

00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:07.541
ways,

00:46:07.661 --> 00:46:09.503
but certainly not to the depth that you

00:46:09.583 --> 00:46:10.123
are right now.

00:46:10.143 --> 00:46:12.045
I've kind of put a number of warning

00:46:12.085 --> 00:46:13.467
shots over there, and I've made it very,

00:46:13.487 --> 00:46:15.007
very clear and lost a lot of people

00:46:15.068 --> 00:46:15.789
along the way.

00:46:16.429 --> 00:46:18.090
Also, I can't even tell you.

00:46:18.871 --> 00:46:21.534
I mean, when I came out against Israel,

00:46:21.994 --> 00:46:23.514
it would have been less shocking if I

00:46:23.554 --> 00:46:24.615
came out as trans.

00:46:25.217 --> 00:46:25.436
I mean,

00:46:25.476 --> 00:46:26.958
for a number of these people out here,

00:46:27.018 --> 00:46:27.938
I'm telling you, George,

00:46:28.858 --> 00:46:31.880
they were losing their ever-loving minds.

00:46:32.141 --> 00:46:34.882
And these people were probably like

00:46:34.922 --> 00:46:35.563
Christians, right?

00:46:36.204 --> 00:46:37.123
Oh, absolutely.

00:46:37.784 --> 00:46:39.766
They were sitting here telling me, well,

00:46:39.806 --> 00:46:40.385
this and this.

00:46:40.405 --> 00:46:41.965
I'm like, look, I know the story.

00:46:41.985 --> 00:46:43.387
I've been taught this my whole life.

00:46:43.847 --> 00:46:45.088
Examine it for yourself.

00:46:45.467 --> 00:46:46.927
There's a reason why they don't allow you

00:46:46.967 --> 00:46:48.528
to do DNA tests over there.

00:46:48.969 --> 00:46:51.989
You play a lot of stuff from way

00:46:52.030 --> 00:46:53.871
back from, I think you used to play,

00:46:54.190 --> 00:46:55.831
do you still play Tex Mars from time

00:46:55.851 --> 00:46:56.172
to time?

00:46:56.931 --> 00:46:57.052
Yeah,

00:46:57.092 --> 00:46:58.612
I haven't done classic audio in a minute,

00:46:58.632 --> 00:46:59.914
but if you go back through the catalog,

00:46:59.934 --> 00:47:02.094
we have Tex Mars, Bill Cooper,

00:47:02.375 --> 00:47:04.394
a lot of great classic audio that's been

00:47:04.434 --> 00:47:05.255
kind of buried.

00:47:06.166 --> 00:47:07.646
that that really should be replayed.

00:47:08.228 --> 00:47:10.927
Well, Tex Mars did probably...

00:47:11.588 --> 00:47:13.168
I have got to find this thing and

00:47:13.208 --> 00:47:13.809
send it to you.

00:47:14.509 --> 00:47:17.010
He did a play-by-play, you know,

00:47:17.389 --> 00:47:18.269
I think it was a couple of years

00:47:18.309 --> 00:47:19.030
before he died,

00:47:19.990 --> 00:47:21.251
and he was laying it all out,

00:47:21.791 --> 00:47:23.331
how even people...

00:47:24.501 --> 00:47:25.862
From over there, we're saying, hey,

00:47:26.742 --> 00:47:28.463
we might want to put a damper on

00:47:28.603 --> 00:47:30.605
a lot of this DNA testing stuff over

00:47:30.644 --> 00:47:30.844
here,

00:47:30.885 --> 00:47:32.905
because when you get down to brass tacks,

00:47:32.945 --> 00:47:34.967
we have no Abrahamic blood to begin with.

00:47:37.268 --> 00:47:39.088
But does that make a difference to any

00:47:39.128 --> 00:47:40.710
of the evangelicals out there that have

00:47:40.730 --> 00:47:42.530
been spoon-fed this nonsense their whole

00:47:42.570 --> 00:47:42.911
lives?

00:47:43.550 --> 00:47:44.831
So, I mean,

00:47:44.871 --> 00:47:45.972
to get down to the book again,

00:47:46.532 --> 00:47:49.034
what are some of the most common prophetic

00:47:49.094 --> 00:47:51.335
beliefs that Christians assume are

00:47:51.574 --> 00:47:52.315
biblical,

00:47:52.416 --> 00:47:52.695
but

00:47:53.735 --> 00:47:56.155
actually originated from dispensational

00:47:56.675 --> 00:47:57.295
theology.

00:47:57.956 --> 00:47:58.097
Yeah,

00:47:58.297 --> 00:48:00.338
the biggest one is the pre-tribulation

00:48:00.398 --> 00:48:01.157
rapture, for sure,

00:48:01.197 --> 00:48:02.518
without a doubt is the biggest one.

00:48:02.539 --> 00:48:02.878
And again,

00:48:02.918 --> 00:48:04.358
that is something that just came about,

00:48:05.059 --> 00:48:05.239
you know,

00:48:05.300 --> 00:48:06.920
a hundred and fifty years ago when C.I.

00:48:06.940 --> 00:48:08.440
Schofield came around and started

00:48:08.501 --> 00:48:08.880
publishing.

00:48:08.900 --> 00:48:09.221
By the way,

00:48:09.380 --> 00:48:10.802
I think Oxford is the one that picked

00:48:10.842 --> 00:48:11.101
it up.

00:48:11.141 --> 00:48:13.742
So anytime Oxford Publishing is involved

00:48:14.342 --> 00:48:17.224
with the power of Mr. Moody,

00:48:17.585 --> 00:48:19.545
who was a huge evangelical with deep

00:48:19.585 --> 00:48:20.126
pockets,

00:48:20.146 --> 00:48:22.927
who started the Moody Bible Institute,

00:48:23.786 --> 00:48:24.927
And if you just take time to do

00:48:24.947 --> 00:48:26.907
the research, in most cases,

00:48:26.987 --> 00:48:27.987
even on Wikipedia,

00:48:28.027 --> 00:48:31.168
you can find an Israeli connection there

00:48:31.849 --> 00:48:32.309
as well,

00:48:32.409 --> 00:48:34.989
as well as like the Graham family and

00:48:35.048 --> 00:48:35.528
all of them.

00:48:36.108 --> 00:48:37.929
I mean, if you look at Samaritan's Purse,

00:48:37.969 --> 00:48:39.670
which is ran by Franklin Graham,

00:48:39.949 --> 00:48:42.371
they're worth eight billion with a B

00:48:42.411 --> 00:48:42.891
dollars.

00:48:43.030 --> 00:48:45.510
And he pays himself close to a million

00:48:45.550 --> 00:48:46.150
dollars a year.

00:48:46.170 --> 00:48:47.112
And that's just from that,

00:48:47.192 --> 00:48:48.452
not including what he gets from the

00:48:48.492 --> 00:48:48.831
church.

00:48:49.472 --> 00:48:50.132
Hold on, George.

00:48:50.393 --> 00:48:50.952
Wait, hang on.

00:48:50.972 --> 00:48:52.112
Let me just stop you for a second.

00:48:52.132 --> 00:48:53.833
Would this be the same Franklin Graham

00:48:53.853 --> 00:48:55.735
that told all of his parishioners and all

00:48:55.775 --> 00:48:56.735
of us to go out there and get

00:48:56.775 --> 00:48:57.876
this death jab?

00:48:57.996 --> 00:48:58.996
Would that be the same guy?

00:48:59.456 --> 00:49:00.237
A hundred percent.

00:49:00.317 --> 00:49:01.378
And brother, you know the deal.

00:49:01.458 --> 00:49:02.597
If you're on the world stage,

00:49:02.878 --> 00:49:03.639
you're part of the club.

00:49:03.659 --> 00:49:04.219
You're an actor.

00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:06.099
And that's why even...

00:49:07.449 --> 00:49:10.891
um paula white and billy graham and who

00:49:11.070 --> 00:49:12.552
which by the way i i could play

00:49:12.572 --> 00:49:13.771
a clip for you when he was on

00:49:14.452 --> 00:49:16.992
the larry king show twenty years ago and

00:49:17.293 --> 00:49:18.733
larry asked him you know what about the

00:49:18.773 --> 00:49:20.173
jews and islam are they going to hell

00:49:20.753 --> 00:49:22.934
well i really can't say i don't know

00:49:23.155 --> 00:49:24.574
when the bible clearly states you're

00:49:24.594 --> 00:49:26.396
either in christ or you're out of christ

00:49:27.016 --> 00:49:29.356
or you're anti-christ i should say and he

00:49:29.376 --> 00:49:29.617
even

00:49:32.222 --> 00:49:34.824
It's very frustrating that there's been a

00:49:34.864 --> 00:49:36.344
lot of damage done to the church over

00:49:36.364 --> 00:49:37.204
the last fifty years.

00:49:37.224 --> 00:49:38.065
And many of these churches,

00:49:38.126 --> 00:49:39.586
especially where I live, brother,

00:49:40.387 --> 00:49:41.027
they're lost.

00:49:41.387 --> 00:49:42.768
I sent Raul a clip from Sunday.

00:49:42.827 --> 00:49:43.548
Ask him about that.

00:49:43.608 --> 00:49:44.349
How awful.

00:49:44.610 --> 00:49:45.989
It was a five minute clip from a

00:49:46.130 --> 00:49:48.452
seventy eight year old lesbian pastor ten

00:49:48.492 --> 00:49:50.512
minutes down the street from me that ran

00:49:50.572 --> 00:49:51.414
it for five minutes.

00:49:51.534 --> 00:49:53.335
It's just these churches have been

00:49:53.454 --> 00:49:56.597
infiltrated by Satan and we need good men

00:49:56.637 --> 00:49:58.338
to stand up and take these churches back

00:49:58.418 --> 00:49:59.699
or to start your own church like I'm

00:49:59.739 --> 00:49:59.958
doing.

00:50:01.965 --> 00:50:03.567
Yeah, you know, Scipio Eruditus,

00:50:03.606 --> 00:50:04.827
I actually go to his church.

00:50:04.849 --> 00:50:05.449
Do you?

00:50:06.510 --> 00:50:06.849
Yeah,

00:50:07.190 --> 00:50:09.552
I go to Scipio's Bible study every Sunday

00:50:09.592 --> 00:50:10.672
because – and why?

00:50:11.273 --> 00:50:12.974
I mean, sadly, you know,

00:50:13.074 --> 00:50:14.155
I would love to be in the same

00:50:14.195 --> 00:50:15.998
room with a lot of other people out

00:50:16.018 --> 00:50:16.878
there that,

00:50:19.701 --> 00:50:25.445
you know –

00:50:21.427 --> 00:50:23.289
that isn't being fed this nonsense,

00:50:23.748 --> 00:50:25.570
but I live about forty five minutes north

00:50:25.590 --> 00:50:26.230
of Asheville.

00:50:27.190 --> 00:50:29.771
And you would honestly you would have

00:50:29.811 --> 00:50:32.132
better luck finding the bones of Bin Laden

00:50:32.672 --> 00:50:35.534
than finding an actual preacher out here

00:50:36.135 --> 00:50:38.496
that isn't either seriously woke.

00:50:38.655 --> 00:50:39.876
I mean, bro,

00:50:39.896 --> 00:50:42.317
this is like the wokest of the woke

00:50:42.858 --> 00:50:43.838
when it comes to I mean,

00:50:43.858 --> 00:50:46.259
this is San Francisco in these mountains.

00:50:46.278 --> 00:50:47.420
That's exactly what it is.

00:50:48.436 --> 00:50:49.657
You just can't find it out here.

00:50:49.737 --> 00:50:51.978
So I have to do this stuff virtually,

00:50:52.219 --> 00:50:56.340
or I listen to Pastor Chuck Baldwin on

00:50:56.382 --> 00:50:58.623
Sunday, or I catch glimpses from you,

00:50:58.742 --> 00:51:00.523
or Raul sends me something.

00:51:01.164 --> 00:51:02.286
This is where I have to go to

00:51:02.306 --> 00:51:03.947
church these days because I don't know

00:51:03.967 --> 00:51:06.608
that unless I was in Kalispell, Montana,

00:51:07.248 --> 00:51:08.570
I'm just not finding a whole lot of

00:51:08.610 --> 00:51:10.851
people out there that are saying what is

00:51:10.911 --> 00:51:13.452
biblical and isn't afraid to call these

00:51:13.492 --> 00:51:15.894
people out in that country we call Israel.

00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:19.541
Yeah, Pastor Baldwin is phenomenal.

00:51:19.581 --> 00:51:21.163
He's up there at Kalispell, Montana.

00:51:21.222 --> 00:51:23.945
I'd also highly recommend Pastor Adam

00:51:23.965 --> 00:51:24.405
Fannin.

00:51:24.465 --> 00:51:26.326
He's down in Jacksonville, Florida.

00:51:27.007 --> 00:51:29.568
He's on YouTube, Law of Liberty Church.

00:51:29.588 --> 00:51:30.048
And by the way,

00:51:30.068 --> 00:51:32.431
if you just put in Law of Liberty

00:51:32.490 --> 00:51:33.570
Dispensationalism,

00:51:33.650 --> 00:51:35.672
he has like a thirty five minute clip.

00:51:35.693 --> 00:51:37.954
He breaks it down really well because he

00:51:38.114 --> 00:51:41.135
was even as a pastor dispensationalist

00:51:41.195 --> 00:51:41.757
until he

00:51:42.425 --> 00:51:44.367
ten or fifteen years ago and he sat

00:51:44.407 --> 00:51:46.327
down and read it for himself because once

00:51:46.367 --> 00:51:48.568
again he was trained in the classical

00:51:48.628 --> 00:51:50.909
dispensationalist way to perceive

00:51:50.949 --> 00:51:53.110
something and then somebody said hey read

00:51:53.150 --> 00:51:55.271
that again and he read it he understood

00:51:55.311 --> 00:51:56.532
that he had been lied to and uh

00:51:56.632 --> 00:51:59.952
he i enjoy him he does two services

00:52:00.012 --> 00:52:01.713
on sunday and one on wednesday night but

00:52:01.833 --> 00:52:03.914
it's the same here and i'm in rural

00:52:05.003 --> 00:52:07.425
western delaware chicken farms all around

00:52:07.505 --> 00:52:09.826
us but we have been infiltrated as well

00:52:09.865 --> 00:52:14.349
with this progressive woke mindset and you

00:52:14.369 --> 00:52:15.630
know working all week you want to hear

00:52:15.670 --> 00:52:16.931
the word of god and then you get

00:52:16.992 --> 00:52:19.733
fed some nonsense like that it's just got

00:52:19.753 --> 00:52:22.114
to be i know there's people out there

00:52:22.155 --> 00:52:24.617
who want to serve the lord and to

00:52:24.637 --> 00:52:27.418
be you know given the word the truth

00:52:28.612 --> 00:52:30.152
But man,

00:52:30.172 --> 00:52:31.414
I think a lot of it was like,

00:52:31.713 --> 00:52:33.315
for instance, the Methodist church here,

00:52:33.615 --> 00:52:35.137
they had a financial crisis in the

00:52:35.197 --> 00:52:35.657
nineties.

00:52:35.976 --> 00:52:36.958
And if you look at the people who

00:52:36.998 --> 00:52:37.639
bailed them out,

00:52:39.619 --> 00:52:41.161
that's the people they have to answer to.

00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:43.362
So that's one reason I'm not like Pastor

00:52:43.623 --> 00:52:44.023
Baldwin.

00:52:44.063 --> 00:52:45.204
I don't want to be a nine ninety.

00:52:45.324 --> 00:52:47.385
I want to be an independent church,

00:52:47.445 --> 00:52:48.806
independent of the government.

00:52:49.286 --> 00:52:51.307
I'm never going to be told to close

00:52:51.347 --> 00:52:52.929
my church, to close my doors.

00:52:52.989 --> 00:52:54.289
It doesn't matter what emergency.

00:52:54.710 --> 00:52:56.891
There's no greater emergency than your

00:52:56.931 --> 00:52:57.472
salvation.

00:52:58.981 --> 00:53:01.521
So, amen to all that.

00:53:02.023 --> 00:53:04.202
Man, I got to ask, George, you know,

00:53:04.222 --> 00:53:05.182
it takes a lot of time to write

00:53:05.222 --> 00:53:06.182
a book and, you know,

00:53:06.202 --> 00:53:07.543
to get this stuff off and running.

00:53:08.143 --> 00:53:09.204
What's your prime?

00:53:09.583 --> 00:53:10.603
I think you kind of got into it

00:53:10.623 --> 00:53:11.244
a little bit ago,

00:53:11.284 --> 00:53:12.925
but who's the main audience for this?

00:53:12.985 --> 00:53:13.184
I mean,

00:53:13.244 --> 00:53:16.284
are you seriously hoping that you can wake

00:53:16.344 --> 00:53:18.266
up a lot of these evangelicals,

00:53:18.326 --> 00:53:19.465
or are you trying to reach the younger

00:53:19.565 --> 00:53:19.945
audience?

00:53:20.106 --> 00:53:21.565
Is there a target audience at all,

00:53:21.585 --> 00:53:23.286
or are you just putting it out there

00:53:23.327 --> 00:53:25.266
hoping that it'll find the right person?

00:53:26.443 --> 00:53:27.463
I think that's it, Billy.

00:53:27.784 --> 00:53:29.585
So like I started with the Fact Hunter,

00:53:30.306 --> 00:53:32.086
grew into the Flat Earth Files because

00:53:32.186 --> 00:53:35.128
nobody within that Fact Hunter community

00:53:35.188 --> 00:53:36.449
really wanted to hear about the Flat

00:53:36.469 --> 00:53:36.570
Earth.

00:53:36.590 --> 00:53:37.731
They wanted to hear about every other

00:53:37.771 --> 00:53:39.512
conspiracy but Flat Earth.

00:53:40.413 --> 00:53:41.273
And then years go by,

00:53:41.293 --> 00:53:42.594
they still trust my voice.

00:53:42.653 --> 00:53:45.135
Then they finally go listen to the Flat

00:53:45.155 --> 00:53:45.617
Earth Files.

00:53:45.637 --> 00:53:47.637
And the first episode is Why the Lie?

00:53:48.077 --> 00:53:50.059
And that's so important to understand why

00:53:50.099 --> 00:53:51.521
they go out of their way to do

00:53:51.561 --> 00:53:51.740
that.

00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:53.222
And I already mentioned why they do it.

00:53:54.101 --> 00:53:55.824
So I think if you put enough out

00:53:55.844 --> 00:53:57.224
there in kind of different areas,

00:53:57.264 --> 00:53:59.527
it'll eventually bring people around to

00:53:59.547 --> 00:54:00.927
the spiritual side of things.

00:54:01.588 --> 00:54:03.070
And with dispensationalism,

00:54:04.231 --> 00:54:07.454
outside of the progressive wokeness that

00:54:07.494 --> 00:54:08.775
has infiltrated the church,

00:54:09.076 --> 00:54:10.697
like last week I did the religious...

00:54:12.184 --> 00:54:13.947
part of The Matrix that was like layer

00:54:13.987 --> 00:54:14.286
nine.

00:54:14.686 --> 00:54:16.668
And I played so many clips from churches

00:54:16.708 --> 00:54:19.190
around the country with these lesbian

00:54:19.231 --> 00:54:21.172
pastors, these tranny pastors,

00:54:21.574 --> 00:54:24.076
and how they have turned churches into

00:54:24.235 --> 00:54:25.737
absolute clown shows.

00:54:26.077 --> 00:54:27.998
And this is the house of God.

00:54:29.021 --> 00:54:31.103
you're mocking god in his house and i'm

00:54:31.143 --> 00:54:34.204
telling you um i think it's james chapter

00:54:34.403 --> 00:54:36.505
one verse five i think it is and

00:54:36.525 --> 00:54:38.666
it talks about how these people these

00:54:38.726 --> 00:54:42.748
shepherds who are leading their flock that

00:54:42.807 --> 00:54:45.389
way there's there's a literally a special

00:54:45.409 --> 00:54:48.610
place in hell for these people and i'm

00:54:48.650 --> 00:54:50.472
trying to get people to understand that

00:54:50.492 --> 00:54:51.831
just because you go to that church and

00:54:51.851 --> 00:54:53.012
you've been going to that church for

00:54:53.052 --> 00:54:55.114
twenty thirty forty years you've got to

00:54:55.134 --> 00:54:57.335
make a change in your life you can't

00:54:58.436 --> 00:54:59.615
Listen, man, when you get in trouble,

00:55:00.876 --> 00:55:02.237
right, and you need a lawyer,

00:55:02.418 --> 00:55:03.958
you're not looking for an average lawyer.

00:55:04.378 --> 00:55:06.679
And when you get that, you know,

00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:08.019
diagnosis from your doctor,

00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:09.599
you're not looking for the most average

00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:10.059
doctor.

00:55:10.641 --> 00:55:10.880
You know,

00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:13.021
when you are talking about your spiritual

00:55:14.481 --> 00:55:15.802
being and eternity,

00:55:15.943 --> 00:55:18.244
and you are entrusting that with some

00:55:18.304 --> 00:55:18.943
mediocre...

00:55:19.773 --> 00:55:21.153
nonsensical pastor,

00:55:21.693 --> 00:55:23.173
you need to reevaluate yourself.

00:55:23.213 --> 00:55:23.994
Get out of the church.

00:55:24.074 --> 00:55:25.295
Do like Billy, myself.

00:55:28.396 --> 00:55:31.577
It's not as edifying to me to listen

00:55:31.617 --> 00:55:32.978
to somebody and there's nothing better

00:55:33.018 --> 00:55:33.878
than being in person,

00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:35.039
having the Lord's Supper.

00:55:35.059 --> 00:55:37.019
That's important, right?

00:55:37.059 --> 00:55:38.981
Baptizing people is so very important.

00:55:39.221 --> 00:55:40.380
Those are things that are hard to do

00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:41.862
online, but at the same time,

00:55:42.101 --> 00:55:44.143
that is better than being a part of

00:55:44.163 --> 00:55:45.103
that synagogue of Satan.

00:55:46.244 --> 00:55:46.443
Well,

00:55:47.233 --> 00:55:47.492
George,

00:55:48.514 --> 00:55:50.534
I don't know what anybody would call my

00:55:50.596 --> 00:55:52.476
state of mind right now when I consider

00:55:52.836 --> 00:55:53.838
everything you just said there.

00:55:54.018 --> 00:55:57.641
We have trans-testicle polar bears in a

00:55:57.780 --> 00:55:58.722
pulpit right now.

00:55:58.782 --> 00:56:00.003
We got this.

00:56:00.023 --> 00:56:00.643
We got that.

00:56:00.682 --> 00:56:02.083
I mean, here in Asheville,

00:56:02.103 --> 00:56:03.925
you could have them put on a ballerina

00:56:03.965 --> 00:56:05.626
slippers and a tutu and have them sing

00:56:05.646 --> 00:56:06.748
Good Ship Lollipop,

00:56:06.768 --> 00:56:07.807
and they'd be okay with it.

00:56:08.469 --> 00:56:09.228
It's a crazy,

00:56:09.248 --> 00:56:10.811
crazy world we live right now,

00:56:10.871 --> 00:56:13.331
but it also makes me realize that the

00:56:13.373 --> 00:56:16.195
Lord is beyond long-suffering.

00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:19.001
Because I don't know how you can do

00:56:19.001 --> 00:56:20.860
– I mean,

00:56:21.942 --> 00:56:24.222
and I know that I'm not talking out

00:56:24.282 --> 00:56:24.943
of school.

00:56:24.963 --> 00:56:26.523
I'm talking to a combat soldier here.

00:56:27.344 --> 00:56:29.543
And with the benefit of knowing history

00:56:29.583 --> 00:56:30.344
and hindsight,

00:56:31.684 --> 00:56:33.306
I think you realize that all wars are

00:56:33.346 --> 00:56:34.025
bankers' wars,

00:56:34.065 --> 00:56:35.286
and all the things that are happening

00:56:35.327 --> 00:56:36.806
right now are done at the behest of

00:56:36.847 --> 00:56:39.327
these ultra-wealthy people that are really

00:56:39.367 --> 00:56:40.128
pulling the shots.

00:56:40.168 --> 00:56:42.309
But sadly, we've got a populace –

00:56:42.641 --> 00:56:43.882
They could not care less.

00:56:43.983 --> 00:56:44.222
I mean,

00:56:44.523 --> 00:56:46.664
ninety percent of the people in my family,

00:56:47.585 --> 00:56:48.164
honestly,

00:56:48.905 --> 00:56:50.565
I scream this stuff from the mountaintops.

00:56:50.585 --> 00:56:51.467
They couldn't care less.

00:56:52.206 --> 00:56:53.007
So I got to ask.

00:56:53.768 --> 00:56:54.329
I got to ask.

00:56:54.389 --> 00:56:54.628
I mean,

00:56:54.748 --> 00:56:56.369
this isn't on the topic of your book,

00:56:56.409 --> 00:56:57.650
but I'm asking this, you know,

00:56:57.670 --> 00:56:58.990
as a guy who I know is highly

00:56:59.030 --> 00:56:59.510
informed.

00:57:00.371 --> 00:57:02.172
Where do you see America not now,

00:57:02.213 --> 00:57:03.833
but maybe five years from now,

00:57:03.893 --> 00:57:05.494
if we don't straighten up and smell the

00:57:05.534 --> 00:57:07.615
corruption before we fall asleep drinking

00:57:07.635 --> 00:57:08.315
the hemlock?

00:57:10.418 --> 00:57:10.737
You know.

00:57:14.148 --> 00:57:14.688
I don't know.

00:57:14.909 --> 00:57:16.510
But if you had to, you know,

00:57:16.530 --> 00:57:17.972
you're asking me just my opinion.

00:57:18.733 --> 00:57:21.195
I think that all the technology is in

00:57:21.235 --> 00:57:22.496
place for this.

00:57:23.978 --> 00:57:25.778
You know, they want to kill the dollar,

00:57:25.838 --> 00:57:27.721
the physical dollar, the cash.

00:57:27.780 --> 00:57:29.603
They want us to be a cashless society.

00:57:31.010 --> 00:57:32.512
They're finishing up putting all these

00:57:32.552 --> 00:57:34.134
flat cameras on every corner,

00:57:34.173 --> 00:57:37.717
so that will help integrate the social

00:57:37.777 --> 00:57:38.498
credit score,

00:57:38.539 --> 00:57:41.041
which is already and has been running in

00:57:41.081 --> 00:57:43.684
China, I think, since twenty twenty six G,

00:57:44.164 --> 00:57:44.485
I think,

00:57:44.525 --> 00:57:46.867
is set to drop in twenty nine or

00:57:46.927 --> 00:57:47.369
thirty.

00:57:48.329 --> 00:57:49.411
So I will tell you, Billy,

00:57:49.451 --> 00:57:50.211
that I think.

00:57:50.992 --> 00:57:52.954
By twenty thirty, twenty thirty one,

00:57:53.293 --> 00:57:55.175
the world that we live in today will

00:57:55.255 --> 00:57:57.317
not resemble anything.

00:57:57.496 --> 00:57:59.057
And we're talking four or five years.

00:57:59.418 --> 00:58:02.639
It will not resemble anything that we are

00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:03.561
living like today.

00:58:03.661 --> 00:58:05.161
And before anybody laughs at that,

00:58:05.641 --> 00:58:07.543
just remember what life was like in twenty

00:58:07.583 --> 00:58:10.045
nineteen and what life is like today,

00:58:10.125 --> 00:58:11.125
how much has changed,

00:58:11.144 --> 00:58:13.586
how much they've normalized working from

00:58:13.666 --> 00:58:17.009
home and DoorDash and Zoom and our lives

00:58:17.068 --> 00:58:18.769
changed overnight.

00:58:18.829 --> 00:58:20.530
Mom and pop businesses got killed.

00:58:21.501 --> 00:58:23.483
They already started putting that in the

00:58:23.503 --> 00:58:24.963
back of your mind, that cash is bad,

00:58:25.003 --> 00:58:25.585
it's dirty.

00:58:25.644 --> 00:58:25.985
Remember,

00:58:26.005 --> 00:58:27.525
a lot of places wouldn't take cash because

00:58:27.565 --> 00:58:28.567
it had germs on it.

00:58:28.987 --> 00:58:31.148
They've already eliminated the penny.

00:58:31.349 --> 00:58:35.170
Trump already started his little thing for

00:58:35.210 --> 00:58:36.811
the children so they could start giving

00:58:36.851 --> 00:58:37.853
money to the government.

00:58:37.932 --> 00:58:38.813
Oh, yeah.

00:58:39.034 --> 00:58:39.773
Oh, my gosh.

00:58:39.873 --> 00:58:42.235
Which eventually could become, you know,

00:58:42.315 --> 00:58:43.777
it's working so great for the kids,

00:58:43.817 --> 00:58:45.057
let's do it for everybody.

00:58:45.338 --> 00:58:45.697
And, oh,

00:58:45.737 --> 00:58:48.619
there's your account for universal basic

00:58:48.719 --> 00:58:49.141
income.

00:58:50.240 --> 00:58:52.041
You just have to get this microchip

00:58:52.081 --> 00:58:53.302
implanted in your hand.

00:58:54.342 --> 00:58:55.043
And here's the thing.

00:58:55.083 --> 00:58:56.123
When the B system comes,

00:58:56.182 --> 00:58:57.802
it's not going to be, ooh,

00:58:57.844 --> 00:58:58.804
here's the B system.

00:58:58.923 --> 00:59:00.443
It's going to be presented as something

00:59:00.963 --> 00:59:02.005
phenomenal, right?

00:59:02.465 --> 00:59:04.025
You're going to get free health care.

00:59:04.065 --> 00:59:05.606
You're going to get universal basic

00:59:05.686 --> 00:59:06.226
income.

00:59:06.806 --> 00:59:09.467
No more passports.

00:59:09.487 --> 00:59:11.168
You just scan your hand.

00:59:12.447 --> 00:59:13.588
They're going to make it sound like the

00:59:13.648 --> 00:59:14.648
greatest thing ever.

00:59:15.909 --> 00:59:18.931
since you know since popcorn but um

00:59:18.971 --> 00:59:21.811
contrary to what the great john mcarthur

00:59:21.871 --> 00:59:23.452
which you know i used to think highly

00:59:23.492 --> 00:59:24.632
of him until he said oh no you

00:59:24.652 --> 00:59:25.534
can get the mark of the beast and

00:59:25.554 --> 00:59:27.195
still go to heaven i don't know about

00:59:27.235 --> 00:59:30.056
that john but you know things are set

00:59:30.096 --> 00:59:33.157
up for those things could possibly take

00:59:33.177 --> 00:59:35.159
place in our lifetime and again we're told

00:59:35.179 --> 00:59:37.539
in the bible numerous times that if you

00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:39.681
follow christ you're going to be

00:59:39.740 --> 00:59:42.681
persecuted and uh but you shouldn't look

00:59:42.702 --> 00:59:43.822
at things like um

00:59:45.346 --> 00:59:47.867
The Olivet Discourse and Revelations is a

00:59:48.027 --> 00:59:50.269
terrible thing because as those things

00:59:50.329 --> 00:59:51.411
progress and come to us,

00:59:51.431 --> 00:59:53.293
that means we're that much closer to not

00:59:53.373 --> 00:59:54.853
dealing with this nonsense anymore.

00:59:55.454 --> 00:59:56.175
And, you know,

00:59:56.315 --> 00:59:57.735
I say that as a spiritual person,

00:59:57.775 --> 00:59:59.056
as a human person, as a father,

00:59:59.077 --> 01:00:00.378
as an uncle, and as a grandfather,

01:00:01.818 --> 01:00:02.920
that is something you have to,

01:00:03.099 --> 01:00:05.581
because I do, we grow our own food,

01:00:05.641 --> 01:00:07.063
we raise our own chickens,

01:00:07.123 --> 01:00:07.963
we're on a well,

01:00:08.425 --> 01:00:09.985
we do those things to prepare so when

01:00:10.045 --> 01:00:10.746
that system,

01:00:10.806 --> 01:00:12.248
if it does happen in our lifetime,

01:00:13.596 --> 01:00:15.056
know and we're friends with the amish so

01:00:15.077 --> 01:00:16.918
we can barter and do things like that

01:00:16.978 --> 01:00:20.041
we want to be prepared to understand that

01:00:20.081 --> 01:00:20.922
we're not going to be part of the

01:00:20.943 --> 01:00:22.824
community we're going to be outcast and by

01:00:22.844 --> 01:00:24.164
the way being in the truth community is

01:00:24.184 --> 01:00:26.266
good training because to a certain extent

01:00:26.286 --> 01:00:27.989
we're outcast right we're the cra here's

01:00:28.028 --> 01:00:30.811
crazy uncle george um but i'm okay with

01:00:30.831 --> 01:00:33.974
that because um you know the bible says

01:00:33.994 --> 01:00:37.277
so and uh again

01:00:38.780 --> 01:00:41.003
Between biblical cosmology and what

01:00:41.043 --> 01:00:41.943
happened in twenty twenty,

01:00:41.963 --> 01:00:43.864
the scales fell from my eyes and I

01:00:43.903 --> 01:00:48.628
can observe the world for what it is.

01:00:48.668 --> 01:00:49.467
Yeah.

01:00:49.867 --> 01:00:50.568
Wow, George,

01:00:50.849 --> 01:00:52.030
I don't even know how to follow that

01:00:52.090 --> 01:00:52.409
up, man.

01:00:52.429 --> 01:00:53.650
We're coming to the end of it here.

01:00:54.534 --> 01:00:56.315
And I got about fifty thousand more

01:00:56.355 --> 01:00:57.635
questions to ask you.

01:00:57.715 --> 01:00:59.396
But I guess we'll just have to do

01:00:59.416 --> 01:01:00.657
a part two on this here in the

01:01:00.697 --> 01:01:01.297
near future.

01:01:01.336 --> 01:01:02.918
Maybe even drag in Raul.

01:01:03.378 --> 01:01:03.697
Sandy,

01:01:03.737 --> 01:01:05.298
thank you so much for the super chat

01:01:05.338 --> 01:01:07.320
and thank everybody else that else out

01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:07.679
there.

01:01:08.139 --> 01:01:08.880
Thor at the door.

01:01:08.980 --> 01:01:09.900
I do remember you.

01:01:10.460 --> 01:01:10.661
Yeah.

01:01:10.701 --> 01:01:12.902
With Freeman Fly down there in South

01:01:12.922 --> 01:01:13.422
Carolina.

01:01:14.041 --> 01:01:14.862
That's actually.

01:01:14.882 --> 01:01:15.422
Yeah, that's that.

01:01:15.483 --> 01:01:17.304
We actually one of my biggest

01:01:17.344 --> 01:01:19.164
introductions into that flat earth space

01:01:19.344 --> 01:01:20.605
was at the height of COVID.

01:01:20.625 --> 01:01:21.505
They had like the.

01:01:22.445 --> 01:01:23.166
the, I don't know,

01:01:23.246 --> 01:01:25.447
National Conference for Flat Earth in

01:01:25.527 --> 01:01:28.188
South Carolina, which is about, yeah,

01:01:28.208 --> 01:01:29.648
it was two hours away from me at

01:01:29.668 --> 01:01:33.608
a, strangely enough, at a Masonic temple.

01:01:36.909 --> 01:01:38.911
I went down there not knowing,

01:01:39.170 --> 01:01:40.831
and I'll be honest with you, George,

01:01:40.871 --> 01:01:42.012
I thought they were onto something.

01:01:42.652 --> 01:01:43.811
I didn't have a dog in a race

01:01:43.893 --> 01:01:44.472
one way or the other.

01:01:44.532 --> 01:01:45.253
I was like, okay,

01:01:45.333 --> 01:01:47.753
this is someplace I can go with my

01:01:47.813 --> 01:01:48.094
son.

01:01:48.914 --> 01:01:50.014
At the height of this nonsense,

01:01:50.534 --> 01:01:51.715
here's the first thing I noticed as soon

01:01:51.735 --> 01:01:52.835
as we got into the parking lot.

01:01:52.936 --> 01:01:54.896
Number one, it was filled to the brim.

01:01:55.036 --> 01:01:56.657
Not one person was wearing a mask.

01:01:56.737 --> 01:01:57.458
That's right.

01:01:57.818 --> 01:01:57.998
One.

01:01:58.757 --> 01:02:01.719
And I'm like, okay, I'm already listening.

01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:03.360
So we got in here and met a

01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:05.181
bunch of really awesome people out here.

01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:06.601
And I could not believe.

01:02:07.161 --> 01:02:08.724
that people had come down all the way

01:02:08.744 --> 01:02:11.885
from Canada and from Washington State for

01:02:11.905 --> 01:02:13.447
a one-day conference.

01:02:14.168 --> 01:02:16.050
A one-day conference because they were so

01:02:16.150 --> 01:02:18.632
starved to be in the room with people

01:02:18.672 --> 01:02:20.094
that actually had some sense.

01:02:20.755 --> 01:02:22.675
So they weren't buying any of this.

01:02:22.715 --> 01:02:23.056
And man,

01:02:23.077 --> 01:02:25.057
I heard some real horror stories in there.

01:02:25.478 --> 01:02:26.920
Wish I would have met you there, George.

01:02:27.300 --> 01:02:27.780
But anyway,

01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:29.682
where does everybody go to get this book

01:02:29.762 --> 01:02:29.842
and

01:02:30.342 --> 01:02:31.304
Tell them where they can find your

01:02:31.344 --> 01:02:32.085
podcast, folks.

01:02:32.166 --> 01:02:33.206
I highly recommend it.

01:02:33.226 --> 01:02:34.509
I'm a big fan of his work,

01:02:34.969 --> 01:02:37.072
big fan of both of his podcasts,

01:02:37.753 --> 01:02:38.934
and I think you ought to check him

01:02:38.994 --> 01:02:39.114
out.

01:02:39.135 --> 01:02:40.516
So, George, how does everybody find you?

01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:43.221
So the books are available on Amazon.

01:02:44.242 --> 01:02:45.003
We have this book,

01:02:45.023 --> 01:02:46.304
which is only four ninety nine.

01:02:46.983 --> 01:02:48.445
It's called Foundations in Faith.

01:02:48.465 --> 01:02:49.626
You're not who you are anymore.

01:02:49.666 --> 01:02:51.007
It's a guide for new believers.

01:02:51.507 --> 01:02:52.847
I'm working on part two,

01:02:53.949 --> 01:02:55.610
which is the Disciple Makers Handbook.

01:02:55.650 --> 01:02:57.211
That probably won't be out till later in

01:02:57.231 --> 01:02:57.692
the fall.

01:02:58.572 --> 01:02:59.092
And then, of course,

01:02:59.152 --> 01:03:00.594
Exposing Dispensationalism.

01:03:00.634 --> 01:03:03.036
Both of those are available on Amazon or

01:03:03.811 --> 01:03:04.954
you can go to our website,

01:03:04.974 --> 01:03:08.061
which is simply foundationsinfaith.net.

01:03:09.503 --> 01:03:11.246
There's a twenty four seven streaming

01:03:11.306 --> 01:03:12.449
radio with, you know,

01:03:13.327 --> 01:03:14.528
like-minded people, myself,

01:03:14.568 --> 01:03:15.588
Joe Harper's on there,

01:03:16.449 --> 01:03:18.490
just rotating files you'll enjoy.

01:03:18.510 --> 01:03:19.492
There's a prayer wall,

01:03:19.771 --> 01:03:21.753
and then our books are available there as

01:03:21.853 --> 01:03:22.134
well.

01:03:22.853 --> 01:03:25.215
And I think that's about it.

01:03:25.795 --> 01:03:27.376
But it was a pleasure being on here,

01:03:27.416 --> 01:03:27.637
brother.

01:03:27.657 --> 01:03:28.538
I can't tell you how much,

01:03:28.597 --> 01:03:30.659
how thankful I am that you had us

01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:30.818
on.

01:03:30.858 --> 01:03:32.619
And I'd love to get together,

01:03:33.420 --> 01:03:34.141
even in person one day,

01:03:34.161 --> 01:03:35.161
I'd love to break bread with you.

01:03:35.202 --> 01:03:36.322
But thank you so much for your time

01:03:36.362 --> 01:03:37.103
and this platform.

01:03:37.143 --> 01:03:39.244
And it was wonderful to meet a fellow

01:03:39.284 --> 01:03:39.905
brother-in-arms.

01:03:41.067 --> 01:03:41.447
Oh, man,

01:03:41.487 --> 01:03:42.646
what a joy it was for me.

01:03:42.746 --> 01:03:43.188
Raul,

01:03:43.228 --> 01:03:44.688
you hit this one out of the park,

01:03:44.728 --> 01:03:44.907
bro.

01:03:44.967 --> 01:03:45.728
I can't, you know,

01:03:46.047 --> 01:03:47.789
you kept saying for the longest time,

01:03:47.829 --> 01:03:49.989
you two need to hook up and,

01:03:50.530 --> 01:03:51.889
you know, do a podcast together.

01:03:51.989 --> 01:03:53.389
Thank you so much for setting that up.

01:03:53.429 --> 01:03:55.371
And maybe next time we do a trifecta

01:03:55.411 --> 01:03:56.690
here and just lay it all down.

01:03:57.210 --> 01:03:58.972
Maybe we lose the entire audience on the

01:03:59.012 --> 01:03:59.771
print pimp cast.

01:03:59.791 --> 01:04:03.253
All right, y'all, you know the deal.

01:04:03.293 --> 01:04:03.952
Stay alert.

01:04:04.472 --> 01:04:05.273
Stay alive.

01:04:10.141 --> 01:04:12.422
Feeling nature's boo, boo, boo.

01:04:12.461 --> 01:04:15.041
We've got the answers,

01:04:15.641 --> 01:04:18.163
all we need to do.

01:04:18.282 --> 01:04:19.523
Listen to the earth,

01:04:19.543 --> 01:04:22.963
they've got us through.

01:04:22.983 --> 01:04:24.204
The last seeds of the shame,

01:04:24.264 --> 01:04:25.844
watch the world spin.

01:04:26.244 --> 01:04:28.144
From the smallest sprout,

01:04:28.164 --> 01:04:29.784
the harmony begins.

01:04:30.045 --> 01:04:32.025
In the cycle of life,

01:04:32.045 --> 01:04:33.885
where the magic's alive.

01:04:34.246 --> 01:04:35.405
Turn it to the beat,

01:04:35.806 --> 01:04:37.987
feel the fire and thrive.

01:04:46.697 --> 01:04:47.246
What is up?