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Yeah,
this is one of my off-the-cuff interviews
because I'm really,
really looking forward to it.
Right off the bat,
I want to give a shout out and
a hat tip to my man Raul.
He's in the chat right now,
Raul Firmamental.
He's been such a blessing in my life
in so many different ways and an
extraordinary guy.
And can't wait.
You know,
he's got a really cool YouTube channel.
Raul,
put it in the chat if you would,
and I'll be sure to chat it out
or shout it out.
And anyway, good friend of mine.
And isn't that funny, folks,
how the people you wish lived down the
street from you don't?
And you're always surrounded by the
people.
He's surrounded by the people that are,
you know, really,
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away from our guest.
I'll be honest.
He probably doesn't know this,
but I'm a big fan of his work.
I'm a big fan of both of his
podcasts.
And once again,
Raul was the guy who turned me on
to him.
And it was a fact hunter.
And that's one podcast.
And then Flat Earth Files is the other.
But he's also an author.
We're going to come to that here in
a little bit.
But his name is George Hobbs, folks.
And I highly suggest everybody.
I'm telling you,
it's the one of the best podcasts out
there you don't know about.
And if you're into finding out the
esoteric meaning to all this nonsense
that's going out there and you want to
hear from a Christian perspective.
There's no better person out there than
George Hobbs.
And George,
it is a joy and a pleasure to
have you on.
Thanks, bro.
Billy, thanks for having me.
And yeah, shout out to Raul.
He's such a good man.
We chat every day and just blessed that
he was able to connect us together.
Yeah, it's – oh, my goodness, man.
It is definitely a joy to have Raul
out there.
So, Raul,
make sure everybody behaves in the chat.
And, folks, you know the deal out there.
Don't get crazy.
Don't get weird.
Otherwise, some of our – not censors,
but anyway,
the people monitoring what's going on
there will definitely take you down.
So, yeah, somebody says,
Mark Levin does not approve this message.
No, he would not.
Not on any level.
So, George, you know,
every superhero has an origin story.
So, you know,
for all those out there discovering you
for the first time,
why don't you tell us a little bit
about your background before you got into
podcasting?
Yeah, sure.
I mean, I'm fifty seven now,
so the origin story goes back quite a
way.
But to give you the Cliff Notes version,
I was born and raised in the suburbs
of Wilmington, Delaware.
Just a normal, you know, upbringing.
My father was blue collar.
He was a mailman.
And all the...
All of our family before my father and
everybody else all served in the military,
World War II, Korea, World War I,
all the way back to the Civil War.
And so for me,
it wasn't a matter if I was going
to join the military, it was when.
And I think it was six weeks after
I graduated high school,
I got off the bus at Fort Leonard
Wood, Missouri.
and um did that and i was in
the delaware national guards i started off
my the first part of my career in
the national guards because you know in
the national guards you don't get deployed
it's just for state emergencies and then
my daughter was born on august second
nineteen ninety so we're literally in the
hospital delivering a baby and the news
comes on that this saddam hussein guy just
invaded
Kuwait and I'm like, where's Iraq?
And the Lord's like,
I'm going to show you.
And, you know, we got activated.
My father's unit got activated.
We were both in the Delaware guards,
but we were in separate units.
And we went over there, and it was,
you know, in a sports term,
it was a blowout, obviously.
And if you remember back,
I don't know how many of you all
are in my age group,
but the spin-up to the war was like
they were the third greatest military in
the world.
These guys couldn't even maintain their
Humvees.
I mean,
their story to get us all ramped up
to go in there was just a joke,
and we realized that pretty quickly.
But
My father, we both came home.
I had some issues, not so major,
but my father had some very major issues,
health issues,
and the VA denied his service.
And all that was going on.
Are you familiar with the Naira Al-Sabah
story?
No.
I know the name,
but I don't know the story.
So if you remember back before we actually
started the war,
so it was during the Desert Shield time.
Is this the girl?
Yeah.
He's in the incubators.
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
I know exactly who you're talking about.
Yeah.
So she's crying in front of Congress
saying that she witnessed all these Iraqi
soldiers pull babies out of incubators.
Well, in nineteen ninety two, you know,
Nightline runs the story about how the
whole thing was made up and that the
girl who testified,
she was actually the daughter to the
Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States.
And she hadn't even been to Kuwait in
a decade.
And there was ten million dollars spent on
her to coach her up to act that
way.
And my dad was
I don't want to say devastated,
but he felt really, you know,
between the VA not taking care of him
and, you know,
that lie to get people's emotions up to
lead us into war.
And he had to retire from the post
office because he was debilitated.
His knee was jacked up.
And again, you're a letter carrier.
You're out there pounding the pavement all
day.
And he ended up being testifying in front
of President Clinton's Gulf War syndrome.
If you go back on C-SPAN,
I think it was August,
nineteen ninety four ninety five.
He was the first one to speak and
he didn't really have a great.
His health really deteriorated and he
suffered towards the end of his life and
he passed before covid and it caused me
to move.
I guess I should add in.
got out of the guards,
joined active duty in the mid-nineties.
And, you know,
I did Operation Joint Forge,
which was in Hungary and Croatia and
Sarajevo.
But then nine eleven happened and I was
a normie back at the time and I
was all ramped up,
ready to go to defend our country.
And then again,
you cross the berm and it was at
March or April of two thousand three.
And it was ninety one all over again.
These people were like, Mr. Mr. Food.
And it was just
and then there's no weapons of mass
destruction and then well why are we still
here are we going home well no you're
going to stay here for a year because
this and that and then i ended up
doing four tours fifty um fifty one months
in total from two thousand to three to
two thousand eleven i was in iraq every
calendar year and you see all the things
that go on i i was privy to
some pretty big contracts and i started to
understand the military industrial complex
If you all have never read a book
by Smedley Butler called War is a Racket,
I can vouch for you that war is
a racket,
but it always comes at our expense.
The people at the top,
like that clown show that went on in
D.C.
today, you had all the people that,
you know, Fauci's going to get arrested.
Today is the day.
No, it's not.
And even Trump came out a couple hours
ago and he's like, well, you know, Biden,
pardon him.
We can't do anything with him.
It's a clown show when we're always part
of our own demise.
And after I retired, Billy,
I started to take the time and unpack
all of the things that I saw and
dealt with over the last twenty years.
even interactions with General Petraeus
and the contracts I had seen and just
seeing the horrors of war and the price
that were paid.
And then you start asking questions, well,
why did fifty eight thousand people die in
Vietnam?
And then you look at the whole Gulf
of what was it called?
The Gulf of Tonkin.
That was all a lie.
And you go back through history and you
understand there's two sides to every
story.
That's why history is called his story.
And then you just keep peeling the layers.
And I started to get into like William
Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse and all those
other kind of books.
All the while,
my Bible's like sitting right next to me
collecting dust.
And all the while I'm doing these rabbit
holes, whether it's nine eleven, Waco,
Oklahoma City,
they all kind of converged back to the
same good versus evil.
And then you start to look at the
spiritual side of things.
And you understand this is all in the
Bible.
We're living it as we, you know,
eat and breathe.
And I started focusing more on that.
And then I really started to understand
where we are in the world and the
lives that have been perpetuated upon us.
And much of it, again,
is our own problem because we listen to
people instead of looking for ourselves.
For instance, look at twenty twenty.
We had the internet in twenty twenty.
People could look up the history of
vaccinations.
And even if you are a person who
supports vaccinations,
you would know that it normally takes
twelve or fifteen years for a vaccination
to go through all the tests,
all the trials.
And nine months later,
whom we have these magical vaccines.
And listen,
if you have a magical elixir brother that
can fix anything,
you don't have to give it away.
You don't have to give it away with
burgers and joints and all these other
things.
People will want something that works.
And once you started to see people
pressing you and threatening you and,
you know,
it came to me very clearly that we
weren't going anywhere near this stuff.
And in twenty twenty,
which was I don't know about you, Billy,
but even with the combat involved,
twenty twenty was the most evil year of
my life witnessing
You know,
people die without allowing their loved
ones next to them.
Only one person can be in the room.
You have to be six feet away.
And my wife,
who was a registered nurse in a hospital,
You know,
it was her face that many people saw
as they died when it should have been
their family members.
And my wife, you know,
and all the other nurses were hailed as
heroes.
And then the next year when she refused
the jab, they made her wear not one,
but two masks.
So it was this humiliation ritual.
So people could see, you know,
they're the ones who won't get the
vaccine.
And she ended up having to leave her
job.
But you know what?
We didn't cry.
We didn't complain because she still has
her health intact to this very day.
And, you know,
And that's when you get to the spiritual
side of things is, man,
this world we live in,
there's going to be many trials,
many tribulations.
But if you have faith in Christ,
you know that this is just a journey,
not a destination.
And it's going to take strong men to
stand up and speak the truth.
And it's not comfortable all the time.
I speak a lot of truth,
and I think people are going to be
really receptive to it,
and I get shut down.
But if you know it's the truth and
you have the biblical text to support it,
you need to speak the truth.
that's about as mic drop as it's ever
going to get oh my goodness um okay
let me back up a little bit george
i'm going to say a word and it's
going to tell me whether or not you
and i had the same mos essayons so
my first uh i reclassed but yes
Engineers, baby.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm not sure.
I think they're twenty fives.
Maybe now they reclass them.
But I went to Fort Leonard Wood, brother.
Nineteen eighty seven.
Yeah.
I had to go there twice.
It's the second time for sapper school,
but, uh, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
So yeah.
Two times, you know,
little Korea over there in Leonard woods.
So anyway, that's, uh, that's cool, man.
I knew I liked you.
I knew I liked you for more than
one reason.
Okay.
All right.
Same MOS.
I'm sure we got a whole lot of
other things in common too.
Um,
Wow.
Let's kind of kick over to your podcast
and then we'll eventually circle around to
your book, folks.
I wanted George on here for a whole
variety of reasons.
I've been, you know,
we kind of keep missing each other and
also the powers that shouldn't be keep
playing with my email as I've been telling
everybody forever in a day.
I'll get this junk email all day,
but you know,
I can't get George's email.
I can't get, um, you know, Oh shoot.
Yeah.
What, who was the email I got?
Oh, it was kind of important.
It came from Dane Wigington.
He's asking me to do a little bit
of an experiment out here and it shows
up sick.
It's dated six days behind when it
actually showed up.
So it was no longer relevant by the
time I got it.
So apparently it's happening to Dane.
It's happening to a number of others out
there.
Anyway, George, um,
I got to ask you, I mean, man,
I can already tell there's so many nuggets
you dropped there that I just want to
pick apart.
But I'm going to ask you about your
podcast, at least the first one,
then we'll go into the second one here
in a moment.
it seems almost a rhetorical question to
ask, but I got to ask,
what made you decide to go into the
podcasting game when there, it seems,
everybody says it's saturated with way too
many people out here.
I don't necessarily agree.
I just think there are,
you will find what it is you're looking
for.
And like Raul brought me to you,
and you bring a lot of the same
information,
but from a slant that I'm going to
relate a whole lot more to,
I got to know what,
what made you think, okay, man, I'm,
you know, out of the military,
I'm retired.
Got all this other stuff going on.
Was it just something to do in retirement
or what made you, what brought you there?
I think it's two part.
You know, the transition,
anytime you have a major transition in
life, it's very difficult.
Even it's not just military.
If you work at the same factory for
thirty years, you know,
you have the same routine.
And when something like that changes,
it's a bit of a journey to figure
out where you're going from there.
Now, some people in the military,
they do their twenty,
twenty five years and they just transition
to the next thing.
For me, you know, I had
I wanted to get into the business world.
And again, we all have our journeys.
And I made some great friends and learned
a lot of life lessons.
And all that time,
it certainly gave me to do research when
I'm working seventy five hours a week in
my retail store.
But, you know,
when you start coming on these truths and
I know everybody who's in this truth
community knows exactly what I'm talking
about.
When you go up to somebody and say,
hey,
have you heard about Operation Popeye?
This cloud seeding thing's been going on
since Vietnam.
Or, hey, did you know this about Waco?
Or, of course,
the big one nobody knows about,
which ties in with the dispensationalism
book, like the USS Liberty.
People weren't interested.
All the friends that I've had,
even buddies who I went downrange with
several times,
they just weren't interested in it.
So for me,
it was therapeutic to be able to sit.
I was never comfortable.
You know, when you go to the VA,
you got to see the psychiatrist.
And I never felt comfortable talking to a
stranger about my problems.
When I started sitting behind a microphone
and talking,
I felt like I was talking to like
an unfamiliar friend,
and it was very therapeutic for me when
I was going through an extremely difficult
transition in my life,
trying to find myself again.
I didn't want to be identified or I
don't want to be remembered just because I
served in the Army.
I want to make a real difference in
the world beyond what we're kind of
programmed to believe.
I am proud that I served.
I am loyal to those with whom I
served.
But our government, you know,
is very disloyal to us.
And I too was one of those guys.
I was on the Trump train and I
had met Hillary Clinton in person.
I had met the Bush, George Bush,
and some different people through my
avenues in the military.
And they played us pretty good.
I've become a strictly apolitical person
before I go any further.
I think the left wing and the right
wing belong to the same corrupt bird.
And I think that we all need to
get out of that paradigm,
not necessarily at the local level.
If you can reach out and touch someone,
then you should vote for that position.
But the federal government,
they are so far protected.
The Organic Act of eighteen seventy one
turned this country into a corporation.
And, you know,
where we're at now with the Federal
Reserve and this really
It is a socialist government.
If you really look at it with a
clean slate,
just look at it for what it is.
Now, what we're told what it is,
it's such a very heavy socialist dependent
country.
Whereas before, you know,
people look to their neighbors,
people look to their church.
But society post-Civil War had been
flipped completely upside down.
And, you know,
everybody is so reliant on the state.
And the series I'm doing now on The
Fact Hunter,
I think we're going into layer eleven
called exposing the matrix.
We look at all the different layers,
the financial matrix,
the the war matrix and all of the
things that make up the system we live
in.
We're wrapping in religion as well,
dispensationalism.
All of those things are kind of wrapped
up.
It's not the people, right?
You hear people complain about soldiers.
You hear back in twenty twenty,
it was the doctors and nurses.
It is so much deeper than that.
It is the system that we've been woven
into that was hijacked here in the States
by the Rockefellers after nineteen
hundred.
They overtook
the medical industry.
They overtook education.
Once again,
that's why the USS Liberty is nowhere in
your history books and things of that
nature.
So they have woven a society that we've
become dependent on.
Right.
In twenty twenty, the police said, hey,
I'm just doing my job.
Sorry, I have to close your church.
I'm just doing my job.
Sorry, I can't let you you know,
I can't let you in to see your
dying mother.
I'm just doing your job.
It is the system that has been woven.
And I've said this before, Billy,
I don't know about you,
imagine nineteen years in the military i i
retired in twenty fifteen imagine it's
twenty nineteen or twenty twenty right and
you have nineteen years in the military
and you're told jab or your retirement
imagine those guys who were putting that
predicament brother and that's why you
know i don't judge and praise the lord
for
what people like yourself and others do
with the detox and Dr. Artis.
I think you've had them on before, right,
Dr. Brian Artis?
I had them on many years ago.
And, you know, I am too.
We're on a homeopathic
kind of trail we we got a little
less than two acres we don't have a
whole lot but it's enough to raise our
meat chickens and egg layers and i just
installed a um cloud buster william
reich's cloud buster about a month ago so
i'm not permaculture quite yet but we're
working on trying to do everything we can
to become self-reliant now i'm not a
full-blown what you would call prepper
because
I think where we're headed,
it doesn't matter if you live on the
most southern tip of Chile or you live
in New York City,
this one world government and everything
that's coming is going to affect
everybody.
But, you know,
it's going to give you a better chance
to survive outside of that system,
the beast system, if you will.
No,
it sounds like your reasoning for starting
a podcast was very much my own.
You know,
we have a YouTube channel where we show
people how to farm and how to do
it inexpensively and how to raise all your
stuff for free.
But then there was this other part of
me that a lot of people had never
seen because, you know,
primarily on YouTube,
that's what I would talk about.
But I was finding out that over and
over and over and just like you around
twenty twenty.
I really started to feel the hammer fall
down.
We got kicked off for two weeks, George,
because we had a guest bring up
elements on the periodic table and how it
might actually help.
And I thought, okay,
as a cathartic release and as a way
to, you know,
be able to talk about the things that
mean a whole lot to me and not
have any censorship at all,
I'm going to go strictly to an audio
platform and I'm just going to do a
podcast.
So under that pimp casting,
which stands for permaculture is my
passion.
There's a whole lot in there.
And believe me, I'm like you,
I'm thinking about starting up a second
podcast where it's called occulted history
where
You're bringing up a whole lot of stuff
there just a moment ago,
everything from Smedley Butler.
I mean,
people think Smedley Butler is a guy
working at the Biltmore down the road.
No, y'all,
he would have been the only man to
win the Congressional Medal of Honor three
times had he not turned down the third
attempt to give it to him.
Extraordinary guy,
but it sounds like you and I got
a whole lot in common.
But let me hit you up with this
other podcast before we get into the book.
Now, you got another podcast out there.
Of course,
this is going to be controversial to some,
but George brings the receipts just like
Raul did when he was on here.
In fact,
I can honestly say that I never once
seriously considered any of this.
I'd heard about it.
And I wasn't a hard sell because I
was already aware of the fact that
everything,
the powers that shouldn't be tell us is
a manufactured lie.
So why wouldn't this be as well?
So George,
let me ask you about the Flat Earth
Files podcast.
What was the motivation behind that?
And why didn't you just put it under
the fact hunter?
Great questions.
And I'll try to stay more on track
than the last time.
No, it's all good, man.
You're knocking it out of the park,
really.
So it was early in the fact hunter,
I think at a probably maybe four or
five months into the podcast.
And I always tell I told people at
the end, you know,
send us an email if you'd like to
come on.
Love to have you.
There's no topic, you know.
that I don't want to touch.
And then I checked my email one morning
and it's from a guy named David Weiss.
And the topic was flat earth.
And I opened it up and I laughed.
I thought, wow,
I just thought this was something they
said on television and the movies.
I didn't really...
realize that there was people who didn't
believe we lived on a globe.
You know, we were taught that.
And this is you start to understand that's
one of the earliest things that you're
taught as a child.
They even hang it above your crib.
And if you go back and watch any
movie or any TV show post-Nineteen fifty
five,
you're going to find a globe in that
movie or TV show repeatedly.
and the word global, all of those things.
Universal,
going back into the early nineteen
hundreds, that logo is on there.
So I deleted the email and I felt
bad.
The next day I go back into the
trash, click on it, pull it back out.
I emailed it and I was like,
what's up?
You know, actually,
there was a link on there.
He had an interview with somebody.
He said, hey, check this out.
I went and listened and it made a
little bit of sense.
I said, OK.
And I scheduled him on, I think,
two weeks down the road and I started
going from one video to the next then
i started looking into certain books and
then i broke out the bible i had
heard something on on one of the youtube
videos and they mentioned this word
firmament and um isaiah forty twenty two
how god stopped the sun and the moon
not the earth and you know in church
the pastors always like to say be a
berean and that's the group of folks
Um, that is spoken about in Acts,
verse eleven.
And, you know,
Paul comes into town and he's witnessing
the gospel of Jesus Christ.
And instead of just taking his word for
it,
they pull out the scriptures and they're
okay.
Yeah, that matches.
Yep.
That must be the word of God.
So unlike what we do today, right?
We'll go to the NIH's website.
We'll go to Google.
We'll go to WebMD instead of, hey,
maybe we should look at the word of
God first.
So anyway, I reach out to him,
schedule an interview.
And after two weeks of trying to debunk
this thing,
and I mean two weeks of no sleep,
and I mean no sleep,
my world was turned upside down.
That had probably a bigger impact on my
life than on most outside of the
And all of us, right?
What was the name of that law they
passed?
The Patriot Act.
The most patriotic act ever passed.
You know, I had them on,
and I had already become a Flat Earther
by the time Dave came on,
and we had a great conversation.
And it was so exciting.
You know, I said, I can't wait.
After I recorded it, I said,
I can't wait to put out this podcast.
My audience is going to be blown away
when I expose this lie that we live
on a spinning ball.
And I published the episode.
And the next day, brother,
I've got fifty emails saying that, man,
I thought you were going to be a
good podcast.
You're just another crazy flat earther and
everything else.
And how many times in our lives have
we been excited about a truth that we
found and we go to tell somebody else
and they just look at you like,
Are you crazy?
And even when you show them in the
Bible word for word and you disprove their
math like curvature,
which can be easily debunked,
and all the satanic numerology and
heliocentrism,
and even the great fathers of the church
like Martin Luther,
he called Copernicus a heretic.
He said that was all nonsense.
All of this stuff,
including dispensationalism,
has come around, you know,
obviously Copernicus was five hundred
years ago,
but it didn't really start to take hold
until the last couple of hundred years.
And there's an old saying, Billy,
if a doctrine is new,
it's probably not sound.
And if a doctrine is sound,
it's probably not new.
Dispensationalism, heliocentrism,
evolution, Big Bang Theory.
All of those things are to make you
believe we live on a rock that has
been spinning out of control for fourteen
billion years.
And what that does,
it makes you a trivial,
not special creation.
When this world is only,
according to the Bible,
six thousand years old, God, imago Dei,
right?
You are made in God's image.
And these people want to tell you, nope,
you're not special.
You're a blip on a fourteen billion year
calendar.
And yeah,
that was when the scales completely fell
from my eyes.
If you have seen that movie, They Live,
that was the moment the sunglasses went on
and I could see the vaccines were fake.
The globe was fake.
And sure,
there's been one or two times when I
wish I could un-red pill myself.
Not really.
But I'll tell you what.
Go ahead.
I'm sorry.
No, no, go right ahead.
I thought you were done.
I think we have a little bit of
a delay here, but as you were.
no, no, no.
I was just saying it was such,
but it also, there,
there is a disconnect from people who were
not awake because for me, Billy,
it's so boring to have a conversation
about the football game yesterday.
And I used to live and die with
the Eagles and live and die with the
Phillies.
And now it's just so meaningless to me.
And I'll sit down and watch a game,
but I'd rather be, be, you know,
looking for the truth and, and, uh,
witnessing to people and trying to get
them to understand that the prince of the
power of the air, that is Satan,
he is the one who is controlling all
of this stuff.
And the people who are in the most
high positions in this world, listen,
it's WWE.
They have to have the good guys and
they have to have the bad guys.
And that's how they divide and conquer us.
But yeah,
I wouldn't trade it for anything.
Well,
it seems so many of us are so
content to be, you know,
spoon fed this garbage at the bottom of
Plato's cave.
And like you,
I don't know that I went into it
as kicking and scratching as maybe you
were,
because I was already I was wide awake
to nine eleven.
I was wide awake to this and that
and that and this.
All I needed was one thing right off
the bat.
And I was like, OK,
the fact that I can see entirely too
far.
Debunks anything they said.
I don't need anything else.
Somebody will say, well, what about this?
What about no, no, no, no, no, no,
no.
We and I can't even tell you how
many pilots I know.
One of them, a former Marine Corps pilot.
I say, hey, when you're up there,
he's now flying for American Airlines.
I'm like, hey, when you're up there,
do you see a curve?
No, I don't.
And that to me tells me everything I
need to know.
I mean,
I don't care what man has to say
at this point.
You know,
there's a reason in classical in a
classical education.
You're you were once taught the trivium
and it was taught in America about one
hundred and fifty till about one hundred
and fifty years ago.
And through that grammar,
logic and rhetoric.
one of the key things you would do
was examine your own personal experience
of what you can observe what you can
see what you can touch and it's funny
like you said i went back i couldn't
believe there was somebody to put out a
video showed all these different globes
out there and in fact i think i
told raul i found a i was at
a um i was at one of the
local towns here and they had like a
hundred year old or a hundred and twenty
year old dictionary
I looked up firmament.
And of course,
it's not the definition we have now.
I wish I had kept the picture of
it,
looked up the word firmament and what it
meant.
And then I also looked up some other
things that I know we can't get into
regarding the Holocaust and some other
things.
But there's a whole variety of things that
everybody fundamentally believes that are
nothing more than manufactured lies,
as I said a moment ago.
Well, let's get into the book, because,
George, if I'm not careful,
I could honestly,
there's not a question I asked you so
far that we couldn't make an entire show
out of.
So we're going to definitely have to have
you back.
Good night.
When I heard you were writing this book,
when you came out with it on your
podcast, I was like, okay,
I gotta get it.
And by the way, folks,
here it is right here.
I bought this thing two weeks ago,
exposing dispensationalism,
how an invented prophetic system reshaped
modern Christianity.
I bought this thing about two weeks ago,
but folks,
I got a stack of books on the
coffee table down there,
and this is that time of year
where I'm going at a hundred miles an
hour, usually when a guest comes on,
I will have at least read part of
the book.
But I think George and I are coming
from the same place here because I was
raised a dispensational person.
Um, in every,
in every part of my existence growing up,
I mean, it was all dispensational,
even Clarence Larkin stuff,
dispensational truths and all that kind of
stuff that I was taught.
And then you talk about,
I think the way you describe the,
your introduction to biblical earth is
what I had when I discovered that, hey,
this was all, C.I.
Schofield was a complete charlatan.
Everything I was taught was a complete
lie.
Now,
I didn't have this eureka moment
necessarily on flat earth,
but I definitely did when it came to
this information.
So instead of me monologuing on like this,
what made you feel compelled to write this
book,
even though I think it needs to be
written?
so this book had more than one kind
of why i should write this book one
was like you and i i was in
the military and americans support war
because of the evangelical church and
dispensationalism uh israel good everybody
else bad number two this false worship uh
false worship pardon me of the
geopolitical state of israel
Within the church, I want you to,
sometimes you have to just take a moment,
sit down and break things down to their
lowest common denominator.
These churches like John Hagee and Dr.
Jeremiah, who, by the way, Dr. Jeremiah,
I'm not saying he doesn't love the Lord.
He's just disillusioned because understand
that these people infiltrated the Bible
college, like the Moody Bible college,
I think in Chicago, the Dallas seminary,
and even I think Philadelphia before they
changed their name.
so you know over the last fifty years
you have these pastors in a pulpit in
a pulpit during a church service saying
that they should turn iran or iraq into
a parking lot so again break it down
to its lowest common denominator you're
having pastors saying that we should take
the lives of god's creation
And support the people who hate Jesus
Christ.
And if you think I'm understating that,
then you have never taken a moment to
read the Talmud or understand the entire
New Testament of the Bible,
which is the Jews rejecting Jesus.
But they were able to infiltrate,
and I'll keep it very light, brother,
we're on YouTube, I understand.
They were able to infiltrate the Bible
seminaries,
And that's what I texted Raul today.
I said the two greatest,
two of the biggest, I should say,
deceptions in our lifetime is to get
people to believe that we're on a spinning
ball.
And if you want to break your calculator,
according to their science, you know,
we've been here for fourteen billion years
and look how fast the solar system's
traveling.
How far have we traveled in fourteen
billion years?
You know, Occam's razor,
the simplest explanation normally is.
But the two biggest deceits Satan has put
on the people is that we're on a
spinning ball and that the people who love
Jesus, I'm sorry,
the people who despise Jesus must be
revered.
And the last church I went to,
I had a lot of heart to hearts
with the pastor and he understood that,
yeah,
John, John, fourteen,
six says he is the way he is
the truth.
He is the life.
No man comes to the father except through
me.
There's no I look many times, Billy.
There's no asterisk at the end of there.
There's no dual covenant.
And he was an older guy.
He yeah, yeah, yeah.
But during the services,
it was all Israel.
Pray for Israel.
Yeah.
Pray for Israel that they fall on their
knees and accept Christ.
And, you know,
I'll tell these folks there's more
Christians in Syria and Iran.
in North Korea, in China, than in Israel.
Less than one percent of the population
follows Christ.
You want to talk about persecution.
You tell somebody over there that you love
Christ,
and that's where the Noahide laws come in.
And we can save that for another day,
but if you don't understand how deep these
Noahide laws go,
and the part about worshiping false idols,
and what they consider Jesus,
and what the punishment is,
it's a very deep rabbit hole.
Yeah,
it was important for me to get it
out because the churches are broken.
And by the way,
I'll give you a sneak preview.
This isn't going to be up till Christmas.
This is just the first edition.
This book's called Return to Scripture,
The Church We Were Called to Be.
And I have been in so many churches
since I moved back here.
And they're either zero discipleship or
they have women pastors.
And I'm not denigrating women.
It's just very clear.
The Bible says there shouldn't be women
pastors.
Don't come at George.
Paul wrote it divinely inspired through
God.
or there's no discipleship whatsoever,
or they're pushing this dispensational
nonsense.
And so I entered seminary about a year
and a half ago,
and I'll be finishing up in the spring.
And I say I'm planning a church,
but I'm not sure exactly, Billy,
what type of church the Lord wants me
to plant,
or if it's going to be a revival
moving from town.
I don't know what the Lord wants me
to do right now,
but I know we got to get out
there and
wake people up more than just nine,
eleven and vaccine.
Those things are extremely important,
but also understand that there's a world
beyond this life and we've really got to
get people on board and get them to
read their Bible,
not let
A pastor tell them what is the truth,
right?
They'll take the pastor's sermon as
gospel,
but they won't even read the gospel for
themselves.
And I say that at my podcast.
Don't take my word for it.
Take what I say, write it down,
and then do your own research.
That's the reason we're in the situation
we are to begin with,
because you believe somebody without
looking into it.
Sadly, so many of these so-called pastors,
I mean, from my standpoint,
are just nothing more than hirelings.
I mean,
I've seen over and over and over,
like you, I was appalled that people are,
that so-called pastors here in the United
States of Amnesia are calling for the
death of fellow Christians in Gaza and all
these other places.
It is just absolutely sickening.
And sadly,
so many other people out there are just
so easily
And I know we blame a lot of
boomers out there.
I get it.
I do a lot of it right here
on this program as well,
although there are a number of them.
I will say ninety percent of the ones
I come across,
maybe ninety five are absolutely Fox News,
blah, blah, blah.
Couldn't care less.
I mean, wouldn't even, you know,
examine any of this stuff.
But there are a few out there and
we have a number of them that listen
to this program as well.
George, I got to ask you.
I've covered some of the – not entirely.
I haven't done an entire show on it.
But I have kind of skirted around C.I.
Schofield and the Plymouth Brethren and
all these other guys.
Why don't you – I don't know to
what extent you're able,
but can you talk to us about where
dispensationalism – because there are
probably some people glazing over when we
talk about that.
Can you tell us where it originated and
how it became what it is today?
Yeah, and again,
the New Testament was written between,
I think,
First Thessalonians was written in AD.
Depending on who you ask, Revelations,
some people say it was AD,
but most people say it was AD.
So you're talking about an eighteen
hundred year difference between the New
Testament being produced and
dispensationalism kind of being created.
There was a guy by the name of
John Nelson Darby.
In the eighteen thirties.
And again,
you're talking about two hundred years
ago.
So the stories vary on how he came
upon it.
And he kind of created it.
And then C.I.
Schofield and others kind of ran with it.
And the big nail in the proverbial coffin
was when C.I.
Schofield, who,
as Billy mentioned correctly earlier,
he was not a good man.
He left his family.
He was a charlatan.
And he creates the Schofield Reference
Bible,
which actually
I want to say it was right around
page one thousand in his footnotes.
It's a reference Bible,
so he puts his own footnotes in there
to get people to sway into the Zionism,
etc.
And he even mentions the Talmud and its
heresy.
He's the one who kind of came up
with the pre-trib,
the pre-tribulation rapture,
which there's a big stretch from Greek
harpaza when it says caught up in the
air.
That refers to the Greek word harpaza and
then a Latin word raptura.
And then they decided it was a rapture.
And this theology says Jesus has to come
back twice,
once to pull us up before the tribulation.
And then again,
he comes down for his new kingdom.
And the entire New Testament is about
persecution and suffering of Christians.
And it's just amazing to me the mental
gymnastics that you have to do to buy
off
on dispensationalism.
And if you just sit down and read
the Olivet Discourse in Matthew twenty
four into twenty five and correlate that
with Revelation six, there's so many.
It just makes sense.
And he even mentions the olive tree in
both of them.
That's how amazing the Bible is.
But dispensationalism is that certain
parts of the Bible are different sets of
time and there's different stories.
And it's very clear that, you know,
This is one continuous story.
The New Testament complements the Old
Testament.
The most misunderstood text in all of the
Bible is Genesis twenty-two.
Most pastors won't even touch it in their
pulpit.
It was one of my favorite sermons I
did because that's when Abraham went up
Mount Moriah with Isaac.
It took him three days, by the way.
How long was Jesus in the tomb?
Three days.
Isaac asks dad, where's the sacrifice?
And Abraham says, the Lord will provide.
And the Lord provides for us.
He sets Abraham on the altar,
raises his knife,
and the God and the angels say,
don't touch that child.
God is showing us that not only will
he never ask us to do something that
he wouldn't do, he will go further.
Because when Jesus got on the cross,
God did not stop that.
He allowed that to happen.
and um you know they abraham looked over
and saw a ram in the thicket and
they sacrificed the ram the from the ram
to the lamb god always provides that's why
they named mount moriah uh he will provide
and um it's just so amazing but they
take this the dispensationalists they take
all of these scriptures they twist them
around and this dual covenant you know
well after the rapture the jews are gonna
They're going to come around.
There's a whole other covenant for them.
So they almost put this dual covenant
theology into it where, well, Christians,
you have to accept Christ,
as stated in John, fourteen,
six and everywhere else in the New
Testament.
But if you're a Jew,
don't worry about it.
You're good.
You know,
and it's just the most ridiculous thing.
And it it saddens me to such a
certain extent that people will stand in
the altar,
guys who had spent four years in Bible
college with the words right in front of
them and still believe
and hang flags in their church, that six,
six, six flag in their church.
I've been in churches where they're
hanging the flag behind the altar.
And I'm like, this is,
these people are going to bring back the
third temple and sacrifice.
They're going to start sacrificing again
because they rejected the Messiah.
You are worshiping a false Messiah and
dispensationalism has a lot of different
kind of tentacles to it.
It affects the tribulation.
It makes people,
Again,
it puts Israel on a different pedestal
than us,
and it is just broken theology that needs
to be exposed.
And that's why I wrote the book Exposing
Dispensationalism.
Again, I went on a terrible tantrum.
I'm usually a host, too.
I'm not a guest very often,
so I apologize if I'm ranting.
No, you're doing a great job,
and you're laying it out there in a
way that I've kind of covered in some
ways,
but certainly not to the depth that you
are right now.
I've kind of put a number of warning
shots over there, and I've made it very,
very clear and lost a lot of people
along the way.
Also, I can't even tell you.
I mean, when I came out against Israel,
it would have been less shocking if I
came out as trans.
I mean,
for a number of these people out here,
I'm telling you, George,
they were losing their ever-loving minds.
And these people were probably like
Christians, right?
Oh, absolutely.
They were sitting here telling me, well,
this and this.
I'm like, look, I know the story.
I've been taught this my whole life.
Examine it for yourself.
There's a reason why they don't allow you
to do DNA tests over there.
You play a lot of stuff from way
back from, I think you used to play,
do you still play Tex Mars from time
to time?
Yeah,
I haven't done classic audio in a minute,
but if you go back through the catalog,
we have Tex Mars, Bill Cooper,
a lot of great classic audio that's been
kind of buried.
that that really should be replayed.
Well, Tex Mars did probably...
I have got to find this thing and
send it to you.
He did a play-by-play, you know,
I think it was a couple of years
before he died,
and he was laying it all out,
how even people...
From over there, we're saying, hey,
we might want to put a damper on
a lot of this DNA testing stuff over
here,
because when you get down to brass tacks,
we have no Abrahamic blood to begin with.
But does that make a difference to any
of the evangelicals out there that have
been spoon-fed this nonsense their whole
lives?
So, I mean,
to get down to the book again,
what are some of the most common prophetic
beliefs that Christians assume are
biblical,
but
actually originated from dispensational
theology.
Yeah,
the biggest one is the pre-tribulation
rapture, for sure,
without a doubt is the biggest one.
And again,
that is something that just came about,
you know,
a hundred and fifty years ago when C.I.
Schofield came around and started
publishing.
By the way,
I think Oxford is the one that picked
it up.
So anytime Oxford Publishing is involved
with the power of Mr. Moody,
who was a huge evangelical with deep
pockets,
who started the Moody Bible Institute,
And if you just take time to do
the research, in most cases,
even on Wikipedia,
you can find an Israeli connection there
as well,
as well as like the Graham family and
all of them.
I mean, if you look at Samaritan's Purse,
which is ran by Franklin Graham,
they're worth eight billion with a B
dollars.
And he pays himself close to a million
dollars a year.
And that's just from that,
not including what he gets from the
church.
Hold on, George.
Wait, hang on.
Let me just stop you for a second.
Would this be the same Franklin Graham
that told all of his parishioners and all
of us to go out there and get
this death jab?
Would that be the same guy?
A hundred percent.
And brother, you know the deal.
If you're on the world stage,
you're part of the club.
You're an actor.
And that's why even...
um paula white and billy graham and who
which by the way i i could play
a clip for you when he was on
the larry king show twenty years ago and
larry asked him you know what about the
jews and islam are they going to hell
well i really can't say i don't know
when the bible clearly states you're
either in christ or you're out of christ
or you're anti-christ i should say and he
even
It's very frustrating that there's been a
lot of damage done to the church over
the last fifty years.
And many of these churches,
especially where I live, brother,
they're lost.
I sent Raul a clip from Sunday.
Ask him about that.
How awful.
It was a five minute clip from a
seventy eight year old lesbian pastor ten
minutes down the street from me that ran
it for five minutes.
It's just these churches have been
infiltrated by Satan and we need good men
to stand up and take these churches back
or to start your own church like I'm
doing.
Yeah, you know, Scipio Eruditus,
I actually go to his church.
Do you?
Yeah,
I go to Scipio's Bible study every Sunday
because – and why?
I mean, sadly, you know,
I would love to be in the same
room with a lot of other people out
there that,
you know –
that isn't being fed this nonsense,
but I live about forty five minutes north
of Asheville.
And you would honestly you would have
better luck finding the bones of Bin Laden
than finding an actual preacher out here
that isn't either seriously woke.
I mean, bro,
this is like the wokest of the woke
when it comes to I mean,
this is San Francisco in these mountains.
That's exactly what it is.
You just can't find it out here.
So I have to do this stuff virtually,
or I listen to Pastor Chuck Baldwin on
Sunday, or I catch glimpses from you,
or Raul sends me something.
This is where I have to go to
church these days because I don't know
that unless I was in Kalispell, Montana,
I'm just not finding a whole lot of
people out there that are saying what is
biblical and isn't afraid to call these
people out in that country we call Israel.
Yeah, Pastor Baldwin is phenomenal.
He's up there at Kalispell, Montana.
I'd also highly recommend Pastor Adam
Fannin.
He's down in Jacksonville, Florida.
He's on YouTube, Law of Liberty Church.
And by the way,
if you just put in Law of Liberty
Dispensationalism,
he has like a thirty five minute clip.
He breaks it down really well because he
was even as a pastor dispensationalist
until he
ten or fifteen years ago and he sat
down and read it for himself because once
again he was trained in the classical
dispensationalist way to perceive
something and then somebody said hey read
that again and he read it he understood
that he had been lied to and uh
he i enjoy him he does two services
on sunday and one on wednesday night but
it's the same here and i'm in rural
western delaware chicken farms all around
us but we have been infiltrated as well
with this progressive woke mindset and you
know working all week you want to hear
the word of god and then you get
fed some nonsense like that it's just got
to be i know there's people out there
who want to serve the lord and to
be you know given the word the truth
But man,
I think a lot of it was like,
for instance, the Methodist church here,
they had a financial crisis in the
nineties.
And if you look at the people who
bailed them out,
that's the people they have to answer to.
So that's one reason I'm not like Pastor
Baldwin.
I don't want to be a nine ninety.
I want to be an independent church,
independent of the government.
I'm never going to be told to close
my church, to close my doors.
It doesn't matter what emergency.
There's no greater emergency than your
salvation.
So, amen to all that.
Man, I got to ask, George, you know,
it takes a lot of time to write
a book and, you know,
to get this stuff off and running.
What's your prime?
I think you kind of got into it
a little bit ago,
but who's the main audience for this?
I mean,
are you seriously hoping that you can wake
up a lot of these evangelicals,
or are you trying to reach the younger
audience?
Is there a target audience at all,
or are you just putting it out there
hoping that it'll find the right person?
I think that's it, Billy.
So like I started with the Fact Hunter,
grew into the Flat Earth Files because
nobody within that Fact Hunter community
really wanted to hear about the Flat
Earth.
They wanted to hear about every other
conspiracy but Flat Earth.
And then years go by,
they still trust my voice.
Then they finally go listen to the Flat
Earth Files.
And the first episode is Why the Lie?
And that's so important to understand why
they go out of their way to do
that.
And I already mentioned why they do it.
So I think if you put enough out
there in kind of different areas,
it'll eventually bring people around to
the spiritual side of things.
And with dispensationalism,
outside of the progressive wokeness that
has infiltrated the church,
like last week I did the religious...
part of The Matrix that was like layer
nine.
And I played so many clips from churches
around the country with these lesbian
pastors, these tranny pastors,
and how they have turned churches into
absolute clown shows.
And this is the house of God.
you're mocking god in his house and i'm
telling you um i think it's james chapter
one verse five i think it is and
it talks about how these people these
shepherds who are leading their flock that
way there's there's a literally a special
place in hell for these people and i'm
trying to get people to understand that
just because you go to that church and
you've been going to that church for
twenty thirty forty years you've got to
make a change in your life you can't
Listen, man, when you get in trouble,
right, and you need a lawyer,
you're not looking for an average lawyer.
And when you get that, you know,
diagnosis from your doctor,
you're not looking for the most average
doctor.
You know,
when you are talking about your spiritual
being and eternity,
and you are entrusting that with some
mediocre...
nonsensical pastor,
you need to reevaluate yourself.
Get out of the church.
Do like Billy, myself.
It's not as edifying to me to listen
to somebody and there's nothing better
than being in person,
having the Lord's Supper.
That's important, right?
Baptizing people is so very important.
Those are things that are hard to do
online, but at the same time,
that is better than being a part of
that synagogue of Satan.
Well,
George,
I don't know what anybody would call my
state of mind right now when I consider
everything you just said there.
We have trans-testicle polar bears in a
pulpit right now.
We got this.
We got that.
I mean, here in Asheville,
you could have them put on a ballerina
slippers and a tutu and have them sing
Good Ship Lollipop,
and they'd be okay with it.
It's a crazy,
crazy world we live right now,
but it also makes me realize that the
Lord is beyond long-suffering.
Because I don't know how you can do
– I mean,
and I know that I'm not talking out
of school.
I'm talking to a combat soldier here.
And with the benefit of knowing history
and hindsight,
I think you realize that all wars are
bankers' wars,
and all the things that are happening
right now are done at the behest of
these ultra-wealthy people that are really
pulling the shots.
But sadly, we've got a populace –
They could not care less.
I mean,
ninety percent of the people in my family,
honestly,
I scream this stuff from the mountaintops.
They couldn't care less.
So I got to ask.
I got to ask.
I mean,
this isn't on the topic of your book,
but I'm asking this, you know,
as a guy who I know is highly
informed.
Where do you see America not now,
but maybe five years from now,
if we don't straighten up and smell the
corruption before we fall asleep drinking
the hemlock?
You know.
I don't know.
But if you had to, you know,
you're asking me just my opinion.
I think that all the technology is in
place for this.
You know, they want to kill the dollar,
the physical dollar, the cash.
They want us to be a cashless society.
They're finishing up putting all these
flat cameras on every corner,
so that will help integrate the social
credit score,
which is already and has been running in
China, I think, since twenty twenty six G,
I think,
is set to drop in twenty nine or
thirty.
So I will tell you, Billy,
that I think.
By twenty thirty, twenty thirty one,
the world that we live in today will
not resemble anything.
And we're talking four or five years.
It will not resemble anything that we are
living like today.
And before anybody laughs at that,
just remember what life was like in twenty
nineteen and what life is like today,
how much has changed,
how much they've normalized working from
home and DoorDash and Zoom and our lives
changed overnight.
Mom and pop businesses got killed.
They already started putting that in the
back of your mind, that cash is bad,
it's dirty.
Remember,
a lot of places wouldn't take cash because
it had germs on it.
They've already eliminated the penny.
Trump already started his little thing for
the children so they could start giving
money to the government.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
Which eventually could become, you know,
it's working so great for the kids,
let's do it for everybody.
And, oh,
there's your account for universal basic
income.
You just have to get this microchip
implanted in your hand.
And here's the thing.
When the B system comes,
it's not going to be, ooh,
here's the B system.
It's going to be presented as something
phenomenal, right?
You're going to get free health care.
You're going to get universal basic
income.
No more passports.
You just scan your hand.
They're going to make it sound like the
greatest thing ever.
since you know since popcorn but um
contrary to what the great john mcarthur
which you know i used to think highly
of him until he said oh no you
can get the mark of the beast and
still go to heaven i don't know about
that john but you know things are set
up for those things could possibly take
place in our lifetime and again we're told
in the bible numerous times that if you
follow christ you're going to be
persecuted and uh but you shouldn't look
at things like um
The Olivet Discourse and Revelations is a
terrible thing because as those things
progress and come to us,
that means we're that much closer to not
dealing with this nonsense anymore.
And, you know,
I say that as a spiritual person,
as a human person, as a father,
as an uncle, and as a grandfather,
that is something you have to,
because I do, we grow our own food,
we raise our own chickens,
we're on a well,
we do those things to prepare so when
that system,
if it does happen in our lifetime,
know and we're friends with the amish so
we can barter and do things like that
we want to be prepared to understand that
we're not going to be part of the
community we're going to be outcast and by
the way being in the truth community is
good training because to a certain extent
we're outcast right we're the cra here's
crazy uncle george um but i'm okay with
that because um you know the bible says
so and uh again
Between biblical cosmology and what
happened in twenty twenty,
the scales fell from my eyes and I
can observe the world for what it is.
Yeah.
Wow, George,
I don't even know how to follow that
up, man.
We're coming to the end of it here.
And I got about fifty thousand more
questions to ask you.
But I guess we'll just have to do
a part two on this here in the
near future.
Maybe even drag in Raul.
Sandy,
thank you so much for the super chat
and thank everybody else that else out
there.
Thor at the door.
I do remember you.
Yeah.
With Freeman Fly down there in South
Carolina.
That's actually.
Yeah, that's that.
We actually one of my biggest
introductions into that flat earth space
was at the height of COVID.
They had like the.
the, I don't know,
National Conference for Flat Earth in
South Carolina, which is about, yeah,
it was two hours away from me at
a, strangely enough, at a Masonic temple.
I went down there not knowing,
and I'll be honest with you, George,
I thought they were onto something.
I didn't have a dog in a race
one way or the other.
I was like, okay,
this is someplace I can go with my
son.
At the height of this nonsense,
here's the first thing I noticed as soon
as we got into the parking lot.
Number one, it was filled to the brim.
Not one person was wearing a mask.
That's right.
One.
And I'm like, okay, I'm already listening.
So we got in here and met a
bunch of really awesome people out here.
And I could not believe.
that people had come down all the way
from Canada and from Washington State for
a one-day conference.
A one-day conference because they were so
starved to be in the room with people
that actually had some sense.
So they weren't buying any of this.
And man,
I heard some real horror stories in there.
Wish I would have met you there, George.
But anyway,
where does everybody go to get this book
and
Tell them where they can find your
podcast, folks.
I highly recommend it.
I'm a big fan of his work,
big fan of both of his podcasts,
and I think you ought to check him
out.
So, George, how does everybody find you?
So the books are available on Amazon.
We have this book,
which is only four ninety nine.
It's called Foundations in Faith.
You're not who you are anymore.
It's a guide for new believers.
I'm working on part two,
which is the Disciple Makers Handbook.
That probably won't be out till later in
the fall.
And then, of course,
Exposing Dispensationalism.
Both of those are available on Amazon or
you can go to our website,
which is simply foundationsinfaith.net.
There's a twenty four seven streaming
radio with, you know,
like-minded people, myself,
Joe Harper's on there,
just rotating files you'll enjoy.
There's a prayer wall,
and then our books are available there as
well.
And I think that's about it.
But it was a pleasure being on here,
brother.
I can't tell you how much,
how thankful I am that you had us
on.
And I'd love to get together,
even in person one day,
I'd love to break bread with you.
But thank you so much for your time
and this platform.
And it was wonderful to meet a fellow
brother-in-arms.
Oh, man,
what a joy it was for me.
Raul,
you hit this one out of the park,
bro.
I can't, you know,
you kept saying for the longest time,
you two need to hook up and,
you know, do a podcast together.
Thank you so much for setting that up.
And maybe next time we do a trifecta
here and just lay it all down.
Maybe we lose the entire audience on the
print pimp cast.
All right, y'all, you know the deal.
Stay alert.
Stay alive.
Feeling nature's boo, boo, boo.
We've got the answers,
all we need to do.
Listen to the earth,
they've got us through.
The last seeds of the shame,
watch the world spin.
From the smallest sprout,
the harmony begins.
In the cycle of life,
where the magic's alive.
Turn it to the beat,
feel the fire and thrive.
What is up?