Hi, Kristen.

Thanks for being here

Hello.

Thanks for having me.

Of course.

So we were just talking before we jumped on, but you do like the

infamous, boomer mom, like, funny skits, and I just think you're hilarious.

So kind of just jumping right in, what started these skits, and like

Do you remember, like, what your first skit was that, really took off?

Yes, I do.

So what started it was me becoming a mom.

I had my first kid in 2021, and that's when I really started to

notice all of the quirks and, like, the weird tips that my mom had.

I have a mom who's a baby boomer.

I'm a millennial, and I see a lot of differences in our generations.

So the first skit that I posted that went viral It was about, this is

something that I still deal with my mom to this day, where, like, I'll

spend the entire day with her, and I swear to God she doesn't eat, or she'll

eat, like, one almond the entire day.

And I'm, like, the k- type of person who needs to eat, like,

actual meals, like breakfast, lunch, dinner, and snacks in between.

Yeah.

And we'll be together, like, we'd be, like, out with the baby or whatever,

and I would need… And I was, like, breastfeeding too, and I'm like,

"Hey, should we go get lunch?" And she's like, "Oh, you're hungry?

Oh my gosh, you're hungry?" Like, she kept, being shocked

that I'm hungry. I'm like, "We haven't eaten in, like, six hours.

This is insane behavior." So I remember posting that, and that

was the first one that went viral.

So it, was- Oh my God … like, therapeutic to me to see that a lot

of other people dealt with that.

It's so funny my mom's very similar to that too.

I'll be like, "Oh, I've gotta eat." And she's like, "We just ate."

And I'm like, " Mom, that was hours ago." I need at least, a bar in my purse at all

times so I can have some kind of snack.

that is- Yeah … so funny.

I feel like I saw that one.

I was like, "Yeah, that's very relatable." We'll have, like, holidays-

For sure … and she'll be like, "Well, I don't wanna serve anything

before because you guys will get full."

And I'm like, " But then we won't eat for the first, four hours that we're there."

Right.

What is that?

Like, I need, emotional support snacks on me- Yeah … at all

times and for whatever reason.

People do say that your appetite decreases as you get older, but I haven't

experienced that in my life yet, so.

Yeah.

So we-

We'll see.

and it's so funny.

I don't know if you find this as a parent too, is what we, like,

talk about our daughter, and we'll be like, All she wants is snacks.

All she wants is snacks." And then I'm like, literally as I'm saying

it, I'm, like, shoveling, like, chips and salsa in my mouth, and I'm like,

"Okay, well, I know where she gets

it."

Okay, that's actually a really good point.

I need to look inward more because my kids are the same.

They snack all day.

I'm probably the problem.

They're just watching me eating all day.

I know, and then I try to explain.

I'm like, "No, it's dinner time." And then I'm like, I just off, a call- Yeah

or something, so I'm, like, shoveling, almonds in my mouth,

and I'm like, "Oh, well, whatever."

Right, that's true.

They're sponges.

They're just watching us.

We're gonna have our thing that when they're older

they're gonna complain about.

They're be like, "Well, my mom says, this, and she's always snacking."

I'm like, "Yeah. You need to have a snack."

Totally.

Yes, that's true, and I think that's, one of those things in parenting

that's very humbling because you tell them to do a lot of things, and

then you do them yourselves, and you notice that a lot more where it's

like, "Shoot, I actually do this."

So

- Oh, yeah.

I know.

It's kind of funny.

we're in the toddler stages right now.

Uh, my daughter's three, and it's like she'll do something and I'm like,

"Oh, that was straight up from me." I literally did that gest- or I said it.

this new thing is, if she kinda has, an attitude, I go, "Excuse me?"

And now she uses that against me.

I'll be like- … "Hey, don't do that," or She'll look at me and she'll go,

"Excuse me?" And I'm like- … "Oh, no."

It's like looking in a mirror.

It's like looking in a mirror.

It's so great.

Oh, my God.

It's great.

okay.

So kind of backtracking for everyone listening, can you just

tell them a little bit- Yeah

about you and what you do?

I know we talked about, like, how you got into this, but,

just more about your content

Sure.

So I'm a digital creator, storyteller, comedian.

mostly all of my content is focused around comedic and dramatic skit content, which

is around family dynamics and motherhood.

so most people know me as Boomer Mom.

That's, my signature character, and I always say if you've ever had

a conversation with your mom and you've needed to recover afterwards,

then you're my target audience.

my content is for you.

Love it.

So I've been doing it since 2021, so that was since my son was born,

so it's been about five years, and there's endless content.

So I'm still going strong, and I love it.

It's tons of fun.

I find so many- Yeah … people I've talked to and met through here

started, either maternity leave or when they became moms themselves,

' cause that was, like, for me too.

It was, like, during mat leave I was like, "I wanna start making

some kind of content," and that's, when I started making it.

But, so I find that really interesting.

And you've also featured your actual mom in some of your

skits too I've seen, right?

Yeah.

So Yeah, she's such a good sport.

Yeah.

so she- She's funny.

She's- … she likes

it?

She likes it.

Yes, she likes it.

she's funny.

She has a good sense of humor, and I think similarly to me, she's very

self-deprecating, so she recognizes herself in the content, which is…

I appreciate that.

I do have a Boomer audience who actually follows me, and they bond with their kids

and their grandkids over it, and I'm like, these are the more, the people that we

need in this world." And I'm the same way.

I'm also self-deprecating.

I have a lot of quirks.

It's not meant to be, like, this, super serious, "They need to fix

themselves." I actually find a lot of these funny, silly quirks that my mom

has really endearing, and I'm like, "Don't change that about yourself." I

think it's great, and I do think that we're all products of our generation.

I think she recognizes that.

Absolutely, yeah.

I know.

I feel like every generation, is able to, like, reflect or, like,

learn what maybe their challenges were or why they are that way.

'Cause I feel like the generation- Yeah … even before that, like my

grandma's generation, my grandma always tells me, like, it was very common to be,

like, smoking while you were pregnant, that's just, a very generalization- Yeah

thing.

But she's like, It was all about, like, you wanted to look thin, all the time.

it was just, more about, like, appearances and, so I feel like they

probably- Yeah … grabbed that.

Like, our parents' generation probably grabbed some of that from them,

and then we're like, "We're gonna change this a little bit." We're

gonna learn more about our health-"

Totally … "and not do that stuff."

totally.

And it's true that in a lot of ways they didn't know any better.

we live in in the age of information almost, our detriment.

it's like information overload, and things that we do are wrong and right

or whatever, and there's all of these debates, whereas like I feel like back

then, even when our boomer parents were raising us, it was just like there

was one way of doing things- Mm-hmm

and that was the information that they were fed, whereas like now there's

like 12 different ways of doing one thing in parenting, or now you have

like thousands of different ways.

I think it was simpler times.

Yeah.

No, I agree with the information overload, because yeah, they didn't have-

Yeah

internet to log on and be like, "Wait. Should I do it this way?"

And then be fed with, you know- Yeah … so many different options.

Before it was like a neighbor or their own mom or an aunt, to be like, "This is

how you do it," and that's it, you know?

Exactly.

Exactly.

So I feel

like- Yeah, that's true.

they talked to their neighbors.

yeah, exactly.

And talking back about what you're saying about people enjoying your

content and not getting, offended by it.

Because I feel like- Mm-hmm … there's times where I,

like, share a mother-in-law skit.

And again, yeah, for the most part everyone likes it, but then you get

those people that are like, "Oh my gosh, not all mother-in-laws are like this."

I'm like, " Yeah, I know that," because I have a great mother-in-law.

This, these are not after her.

People send me in stories, and it's their own experience.

But, not getting, offended by it and just being like, "There are some people like

this. There are some people that act like that." And finding the humor in it- Yeah

is, I feel like, you said before recording, it's very therapeutic

Exactly, yeah.

I see it as, we're making a movie, and so you don't watch a movie and say,

"Oh, I'm not like that. How dare you make a, movies like that?" Because it

depicts a certain personality that's not necessarily the exact, archetype

that you're dealing with, right?

Yeah.

So that's how I always see it.

I'm like, sure, you can watch this and not relate to it, and that's fine.

You can just go ahead and move on.

and you're always gonna deal with that.

I've seen the trend of, like, the what about me-ism, right?

Where everyone's like, if it doesn't exactly fit what you wanna

see, then people get mad about it.

Like, the bean soup theory- Yes … where, like, a person, put, a recipe up about

bean soup, and someone's like, "Well, what if I don't like beans?" "What are

you gonna make for me?" And it's like, well, then just don't make the recipe.

You can just go ahead and move on.

Not

for you.

Yes.

Yeah, exactly.

this doesn't need to be for you, then.

I know.

That is, one of the things with social media where people think, "If it's on

my feed, I have to comment and tell them I don't like it." And it's like-

Yeah … maybe it's not meant for you.

That's okay.

Exactly.

Oh, my God.

And I'm okay with it, too.

It's like, fine, I'm, open to criticism.

open to your feedback.

Go ahead and leave it there.

It's engagement for me regardless, so go ahead and, drop it.

I have my own, critiques, that I'm giving myself behind the scenes.

Yeah.

So I'll take it or leave it depending on, the type, the tone of the comment.

Yeah.

So did you have, experience in acting or, writing or comedy beforehand, or just

this kind of, like, bring it all out- No

yeah?

Yeah.

No experience in any of that.

I followed, the traditional corporate route straight out of college.

I got my degree in marketing but ended up in finance, so I had a career in

finance, which made zero sense for me.

but it was fun.

but no, I really had no experience.

I'm passionate about making content.

I was, like, always that kid in, middle school when we

had our camcorders back then-

Mm-hmm

… making skit content with my friends.

And, I remember asking You could buy, a software.

Even we, those, massive computers, you could buy editing software.

Yes.

So I would edit our videos.

I would, like, make 'em slow-mo and try to make them funny.

So I remember that's always been a part of my personality, but I grew

up in the Midwest, and so I didn't really have access to, like, become

a comedian or become an actress.

So it just wasn't really something I ever imagined doing, and I think, we

live in the age of social media and being able to create our own content, so

it's been fun 'cause I've been able to find my voice and just find my passion

by just, trial and error on my own.

Yeah, I love that.

Yeah, I know, and that's, like, the- Yeah … positive side of

social media where so many people are getting opportunities to share.

I kind of think of it as, like, a talent show in a way.

You're, like, scrolling through, like, different people's talents,

and I think it's really beautiful in that way 'cause it creates this

community and creates this, excitement for different kinds of talents and,

people kind of coming together.

you really, unlocked something when you said, like, creating,

skits when you were a kid.

I don't know, did you ever use, iMovie- Mm-hmm … as a kid?

Like, the first, I remember when iMovie came out and I was like, " This

is amazing." Like, you can do, movie magic, remember my dad showing

me that stuff, and takes me back.

Yes, I totally remember that, and then you could add, special effects.

Yeah.

I thought it was, like, the coolest thing I'd ever seen, and if you would look at

it today, it was, ridiculous looking.

I know.

I know.

It's so funny.

It makes me think- Mm

like, I don't know if you ever, like, when you're filming, you, like, think

about, looking back to, like, now, like, 10 years from now and being like,

Oh my gosh, we used to hold our phones like…" You or whatever that looks like.

what- Yeah … changes are gonna be in the next 10 years when it comes to,

like, creating content or doing skit content and how it's gonna evolve?

Totally.

I just think, even in, more recent memory, like, I have my phone right here.

Like, how how weird it is or how weird it was to hold your phone and talk to it.

Mm-hmm.

even, like, 10 years ago where we were like, "Oh, how awkward."

we're talking to nobody.

Where I feel like now this next generation is like this is, a person to

a lot of people, where, like, talking to the phone is a really natural thing.

it's become, almost like a member of the family, which is, so sad and crazy to

think about because- Yeah … we all wanna experience the '90s and, be more present.

But yeah, I think technology it's evolving constantly.

Yeah.

Right, right in front of us.

I know.

I said before, I was like, "Oh, yeah, I'm super introverted."

And someone's like, "How?

you make content online." I was like, "Well, when I make content,

it's me." I'm, like, in a room- Yeah

by myself.

I would never be out, in public doing it.

not eventually holding my phone, but eventually doing something.

Yeah.

do you feel

similar?

Like, on a stage or something.

Yeah.

Like, do you feel similar?

Um- Are you looking to take your career to the next level of,

doing stand-up comedy or acting?

Do, have you ever thought about that?

I've thought about it, but not in a way of "Let's start doing this

tomorrow," because the thought of it is, terrifying, especially stand-up comedy.

That terrifies me.

That's, the hardest job in the world.

I don't think comedians get enough credit for that.

but it's true.

it's a much different art, like, making something in your house is so much

different than in front of an audience.

Mm-hmm.

So yeah, I don't know.

I think it's a different type of art.

I think it would be fun, but it's just, it's a different type of muscle that

I think I would have to, practice,

Oh, yeah, for sure.

Okay, so I know- Yeah … you, reached out to your audience, 'cause I kinda

wanna jump into those 'cause I feel like those will be fun to read.

Let's do it.

You reached out to your audience and asked them if they had any crazy…

Did you say, like, crazy mother-in-law stories or crazy stories around weddings?

I said around weddings with emphasis on moms and mother-in-laws.

Okay.

Let's hear some of those ones that your audience sent you

Okay.

Maybe I'll start with, like, one of the shorter ones.

I got a lot of, crazy gift stories.

So like wedding gifts that they received from either an in-law or their own mom.

Like endless amounts- Oh my God … of content there.

But this one I thought was particularly crazy.

So it's, " As a wedding gift from my mother-in-law and her friends,

I called it the baby-making kit.

Inside the box was an all-time greatest love album, a candle, an ovulation

test kit, and pregnancy tests.

Yes, all wrapped up and given to us at our wedding."

Oh, an ovulation kit is wild.

Yeah, that's next level.

A candle.

And I like how they, like, tried to, set the vibes, too- … with,

like, a love album and a candle.

it's-

They're like, "Here, this is how we

made

your husband." That's-

" This is how." Yeah.

And it's… I didn't catch this when I first read it.

From mother-in-law and her friends.

So she went in with her friends to get that for them?

That makes it almost, creepier.

Yeah.

It wasn't just, her own gift.

So they were like… What can we do so you can have grand babies faster?

Let's set the tone." it's so icky in general.

Uh-huh.

Like, when you go to a wedding or, bridal shower and you're like, "When

are you gonna have kids?" Yeah.

You gonna hop o- like, get 'em, quickly?" It's, like- Right … such,

a archaic thought to me now.

I don't know.

Yeah.

It's just way TMI.

Because, there's only one way to make a baby, right?

Or, like, there's one picture that you have in your head, right?

Right.

About when you, like, traditionally make a baby.

And, like, having that type of conversation with my in-laws, shoot me.

it's the last thing I wanna talk about with my mo- mother-in-law.

this is just, take it to next level, about, like, getting

you ready to have a child.

it's

next level.

And by the way, like, not everybody wants kids or wants them the

day you get married, you know?

Yeah.

I know, like, let them enjoy their wedding day at least.

I know, I remember- Right … I was at a shower years ago, and you know,

the traditional thing where it's like if you break a ribbon, that's

how many kids you're gonna have.

Have you heard that?

Oh, I've never heard that.

I don't know if that's- No … like, where that came from.

But that was always, like, a thing.

Like, my family was always like, "Oh, it's a… If you break a ribbon, that's

how many kids you're gonna have." And I remember my sister at her wedding,

who now, ironically now has three kids, like, at that point, she was

like, "I don't know if I want kids."

she was, like, so carefully trying to, like, not break ribbons.

But we were at this other shower years ago.

And the parents were, like, geeking every time a ribbo- "Oh, they're gonna

have another one." I was like, "Guys, can you just open these things?" Oh,

that is… Wait, and what do you mean by breaking a ribbon?

Like, I mean, out of the bow?

So basically like- Is

that what they mean?

No, like if you open it like the normal way, like untie it or whatever, it's fine.

Yeah If you're like, pop it, if you're unwrapping it and the ribbon like pops

or like breaks where like it shouldn't, that means you're gonna have a baby

or something.

I'm, I'm so glad that nobody in my family knows what that is, and that

we weren't tracking that my shower.

Yeah.

I know.

It's so funny.

So it's

behind us now, so.

And it's weird too, because it's at the bridal shower too, where it's

like you're like trying to celebrate the wedding and all that, but

they're just like… I don't know.

It probably started in like the '50s or something, where it was like a

baby, like get the babies going.

That's true.

That's true, and it's like I would wanna talk to someone who, got married in the

'50s or '60s, because I do feel like it was such a different age where it

was like, "You need to have five to six kids, and in order to do that, you need

to start having babies immediately."

Whereas, like, when I got married, I never really felt the pressure necessarily.

I was like, "Okay, we're gonna get married, and we're gonna have, a couple

years, and then start thinking about having kids." Like, I just didn't

feel that rush, but I do think that, decades ago they were like, "Okay, let's

start popping them out tomorrow-" Yes

and then see just, how many kids that we can have.

yeah, I totally agree.

Which

is, yeah.

I never felt pressure either and, but I feel like previous generations

it was, like, expected of women.

Yeah … like, you check a list, right?

You find a guy, you get married, you have a baby, and if you weren't

doing that, there was something wrong with you or something, you know?

' Cause I remember my mom saying- Mm-hmm … 'cause my mom technically got married

late and had kids late, and late was 26.

My mom got married at 26, but that was considered late when she got married,

and she was like, "I had cousins that called me-" Same a spinster because

I wasn't married yet." And she was like, "Yeah-" Are you kidding me?

so I just had to, like, brush it off.

Yeah.

she had her first kid at, like, 29, and that was, considered old, you know?

And so I never felt pressure 'cause my mom never put the pressure on

me, but a lot of my friends, like-

Yeah

they would be like, "Oh, my mom had me already at this age.

I need to get going." I'm like, "No you don't.

calm down.

It's okay."

For sure.

And-

Exactly.

I think it's just like there's no right or wrong age to do it, right?

until you get to a certain age where, like, it's like there's, health issues,

but everyone finds the right time for them, and I think that's, just…

And society has become a lot more accepting of, people just trying to

navigate things on their own timeline.

I personally don't think I was mature enough in my 20s.

I truly feel like I was, like, too selfish.

and I'm sure, once you have a baby, like, your brain actually does rewire itself,

so I'm sure I could have surprised myself and been a really great mom in my 20s.

But I just think through, like, the type of person that I was then versus the

type of person that I am today, and I'm like, " I'm glad I had my babies starting

in my 30s, in my early 30s." I feel like that was the perfect time for me.

Yeah, 100% I agree, too.

I look at my 20s and I'm like, " I was still a child, like a baby."

Like, I can't.

I'm sure, yeah, you figure- No,

I was so immature

… yeah.

I'm sure you figure it out- … but I'm just like, this was a good time for me.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Okay, what's another one someone sent you?

All right, let me see.

should I do the longer one?

It's a little-

Sure

chatty, but I'll do it.

It's two paragraphs, so… wedding story.

My mom yelled at me in the middle of my reception because she didn't get

a moment with me after I had asked her if she wanted to do a reading

during the ceremony or sing a duet with me, we're both singers, during

the reception, and she refused both.

She was apparently feeling not included when I did everything

possible to include her.

She didn't want to be included and wanted to hold it against me instead.

And then she didn't want to drive home after, or drive home alone

in the dark, early in the dancing mind you, but we had a shuttle.

She just didn't wanna take it, so she tried to get my brother to go with her.

He told her he wanted to stay at his sister's reception.

Oh,

my.

she could not have been happy no matter what they did is what I'm getting.

Yes, that's exactly it.

It was like victim mode.

I think she like, there's something about this woman who wanted to

be a victim somehow, some way, and she was gonna find a way-

Yes

to do it, 'cause this woman clearly was inviting her mom to be included.

Like, sing a duet with her.

Yeah.

She couldn't have been more involved by doing it.

Like, what a nice- Like- … special thing.

And they both are singers.

Somebody asked you to sing at her- They're the best.

Like, I didn't ask my mom to do that.

that's so special.

And so then she says no, and then is like, "I'm not being included."

It's

like, what do you

want?

Like, what else she- You wanna walk down her red carpet?

… she's included on?

Yeah.

Right?

did she wanna be the bride?

it almost feels like she wanted to be as special as the

bride that day or something.

I don't know.

It, something seems a little off.

I've weirdly heard- Yeah … a lot of stories where the mom expects to be

walking down the aisle with the bride.

I know, like, you can do that now where you walk with both parents.

I see that a lot of times.

I know, like, in our wedding, my husband walked down with both parents.

But,

Mm-hmm

… I've seen ones where, like, the mom expects it, and then when the

bride's like, "No, I'm just gonna walk down with Dad," they get, offended.

They're like, "Oh, well, I was planning on walking down with you."

And then they get, like, a weird way.

I've read a couple, a few stories like that now where I'm just

like, "That's so interesting."

Yeah

… ' cause that, wasn't the norm, so I don't know if, they saw one bride do it, and

they're like, "Oh, they have to include me now to walk down," or I don't know.

It's very odd.

Right.

And that's where this, the whole thing of, tradition gets a little See

both sides there in a way where it's like, we did it really traditional.

actually most weddings I've ever been to where it's like the bride will

walk down the aisle with her dad.

and that's what I did.

But I'm like, why is that the tradition?

I guess it's like the dad giving them- their daughter- Daughter away … away.

Yeah.

I guess it's like special and sweet.

It's such a weird thing to- But then again, yeah, it's kinda weird, is it not?

Like, it kinda is.

Like, why

can't my mom be included on that?

Yeah.

But then again, I don't know.

I feel like default is like you have your dad walk you down the aisle.

Yeah.

It's ultimately, like it's up to the bride, right?

If the bride says, "You're not, you shouldn't give me away," like she gets

to decide- Yeah … not the parents.

Yeah.

I know.

I think I de- ba-ted having both my parents, and then like with timing I

think brother just walked my mom down the aisle, so she was like a part

of like walking down, and then with the grandkids up front it was just

kinda worked out better that way.

it's weird, like when you look into like- That's really

sweet

yeah, it's like when you look into like the history of why they did it, it was

the father like not selling, maybe it was selling the bride, I don't know.

But like giving the bride to like, his person of choosing and ba-

Yeah … basically like one man to the next, which I think is kinda

weird if you like think about it.

Right.

yeah, that's why I'm like, okay, I'm not opposed to breaking those traditions.

I'm like, you know what?

Like I it's not abnormal for somebody to wanna walk, to have their mom join

them, or just have their mom do it, just have their dad do it, or have somebody

else that's special, or just walk alone.

Ultimately it really, it's like up to the bride in my opinion.

Yeah.

the part that's not okay in my opinion is for the mom to be like, "You better

walk me down the aisle as a part of- Yeah … your wedding day," 'cause it's not her

decision to make- Yeah … unfortunately.

And

the thing is too, like in this particular case saying like, "Oh, I wasn't included

enough," you're the bride's mother.

Yeah.

Everyone knows who you are.

You're gonna wear a beautiful dress, and it's gonna be special.

Like you don't need a big spotlight on you for people to recognize,

like, "Oh, she's here. It's her day."

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I feel like, we said, like she's just trying to find something to

complain about or something to make, the bride feel bad about on her day,

and it's like, no, it's not gonna work.

Yes, and then her wanting to leave early, they got them a shuttle, so

they were nothing but accommodating.

they clearly thought ahead, and then she just didn't wanna do it,

and was like, " Nope, I'm leaving.

Brother has to go with me" I think she was entering that day in victim mode.

Mm-hmm.

It appears.

based on what I'm reading.

Yeah.

It's like something happened early on, like someone said something, and she's

like, "That's it. I'm gonna hold onto this and it's gonna go my way" or-

Yeah, and I, it's, you feel for the bride, 'cause then it's like you know she was

tiptoeing around her feelings- Mm-hmm

and probably feeling guilty the next day when it really wasn't her responsibility.

ultimately, like, your parents are responsible for their own

feelings and their own day, so- Yeah … I feel for the bride.

No, totally.

Okay, let's do a little, before we get to this week's story submission from-

Yeah

someone, okay, I'm gonna do, it's called Red Light, Yellow Light, or Green Light.

I'm gonna read something- Okay … and then you tell me, red light is like

awful, bad, green light is good, and then yellow is maybe in the middle.

Okay.

Okay.

using your real-life family dynamics as inspiration for your characters.

green light, obviously.

I think inspo is fine, yeah.

I think I could like- Peter, between yellow and green on that.

I think if you are, roasting your family on the internet and just, tearing

them apart, that's not appropriate.

But if it's in a playful, like, really sweet way, like my content,

obviously nothing but nice-

Yeah

then I'd say, green light.

Yeah.

And your mom's involved and knows about it too.

It's not like you're, like, secretly, bashing her on the internet or something.

I did a skit one time, I can't remember which one, but it was

based on one that someone sent me.

So it had nothing to do with, me or my family.

But I think when, like-

Mm

… some people see it, like a different generation, they see it, they assume,

I'm airing out my dirty laundry.

And Yeah … this, woman left this super long comment and was like, " How

dare you bash your husband's family like this and air your dirty laundry?

No wonder, this is happening to you."

And, going off.

And, everyone was like, "This is a skit. This is not based on her family." Right.

It's like, "Hey, yeah, this has nothing to do with me." Right, again, yeah.

But I feel like if people just see it, and they, assume the worst or something.

Totally.

Yes.

I have my drama series too.

I'm writing a movie, right?

Like, none… I don't know these people.

These are people that I've created inside my head, don't worry about my in-laws.

They're great.

They're good.

That's just what I say.

It's just like, "I'm writing a movie, so this is fictional." Of

course, it's, loosely based on some real experiences of other people,

Yes

yeah.

Yeah, of course.

I feel like everything's a little bit of inspiration.

You grab stuff from all kinds of things, and that's- Yeah … how you get inspired.

Yeah, exactly.

Let's see.

comparing your parenting to what you grew up with

hmm.

I'd say like yellow light Yeah Because there's some things that are so

dated and probably not appropriate.

And then there's other things, we keep saying, "90s summer, 90s

summer," because I felt like my upbringing was so great in so many ways

because we were unplugged and no TV.

So there's so many different things that I, hope to bring into my style

of parenting that my, mom did, but I'm sure there's a couple.

I mean, it's not all like rainbows and butterflies.

There's some things in there that are borderline unsafe for kids.

Right So I'd say red or yellow.

Yeah.

There's a lot… I was just telling some moms that, like some of my mom

friends, and we were talking about like the survivor's bias of like their

moms being like, "Well, you guys didn't use a car seat after one years old."

And they're like, "Yeah.

we've learned a lot since then." Like, "Well, you guys were fine." Yeah.

"Well, yeah, we survived." just because we survived doesn't mean we shouldn't

keep our kids- Yeah … in a car seat till they're four, five, si- you know?

we've learned a lot.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Or like, safe infant sleep has evolved so much.

I've seen so many pictures of me in a crib, and it's like bumpers

and 30 stuffed animals and 100 blankets piled up on top of me.

And I'm like, a nine-pound infant just like sleeping.

And I survived that, thankfully.

Yes.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh.

Okay, last one.

let's see.

Calling out toxic family behavior patterns, publicly

or subtly through content

like, so toxic behavior patterns that you're actually dealing with in real life?

No, I would say just, in general, behaviors-

Oh

… like toxic families

Green light to that, and we kinda talked about this before

we started recording, but I think it's, good for people to see that.

I think sometimes you're in it, and you don't know because you're in it,

or you grew up a certain way with a certain parent, and you're sort of

raised to, not recognize toxic behaviors.

So I think it's totally fair game to display that in content or skip content

because if anything, it's just a tool for people to recognize, what they,

things that are problematic, and maybe it's a way to give them the tools

that they need to get out of it or have really structured conversations

with the people that need to hear it.

Totally.

Yeah.

I think, like you said, it's so therapeutic to be able to, like,

see something online, being like, "Wow, I'm not alone in this," or

Wow, I dealt with that too." Yeah.

"I'm not crazy." And I've heard so many people that send me in stories that are

like, "Even if you don't use this story, it was so therapeutic for me to type out

and, understand my feelings." so yeah- Yes … I feel like it allows people to see,

like, "Oh, wait, that wasn't okay the way they treated me," you know, vice versa.

Totally.

a lot of people, they don't even see it or know that it's happening, and

then all of a sudden they see it, and it's looking at a mirror, and they're

like, "Oh, I notice patterns," or, "I'm seeing these little traits that are,

yeah, that's actually not fair to me.

Maybe I should speak up for myself or say something or start recognizing

those patterns." So I think it's good.

Yeah.

All right.

Let's get into this week's story submission.

so- All right.

I'm ready … this was sent to me, and let's, see what we got here.

Okay.

here we go.

" I'm a wedding photographer, and do I have a s- crazy story for you.

it all started during this couple's engagement session at a local park.

Everything was going great.

We were getting beautiful shots and having a fun, easy time until I noticed someone

lingering in the background behind me.

I turned around to see what was going on, and the bride just rolled her

eyes and said, 'Oh, that's my mom.'"

Gosh.

I'm already, like, picturing this woman, like, behind a tree.

Oh, no.

I'm

sorry.

is she hiding?

Like, what do you- If anything, like, just, like, be there, you know?

I

know, like, why is she, like-

Oh

… 15 feet behind?

her mom had literally crashed their engagement session, so she wasn't invited.

Not only that, but she immediately started criticizing the bride.

At one point, she told her word for word to pick her chin up because she looks fat.

I would be like- Mm … "Can you leave please?" Oh my gosh.

Mm-hmm.

" I was honestly shocked.

The poor bride had a big scarf on and kept trying to use it to cover

her neck and chin after that."

Mm.

" Eventually, I had to step in and politely tell her mom that we needed

some space so we could actually focus on taking their photos."

Fast-forward to the wedding day.

I arrived at the venue and went to start photographing the bride getting ready.

We had a very detailed timeline planned out, including the first look before the

ceremony, but her mom kept interrupting.

She made the bride change her lipstick at least three different times, which

ended up setting us back an hour.

Okay, that's-

Mm-hmm

… wild behavior.

this makes me think that she has, tried controlling her daughter

so many times over the years.

Because if the bride just was like, "Okay, yeah, I'm gonna change

it," then she's so, you know-

Yeah

… she's like, "Oh, well, I can tell her what to do and she's

gonna just follow my lead."

yeah.

It's almost like she's trained to just say yes and just do it, because- that tells

me she's probably been dealing with that her whole life, which is, that's sad.

Yeah.

Makes me sad.

I know.

'Cause I feel like if someone told me to change my lip, I'd

be like, "Yeah, okay." Like-

No, on my wedding day I was so mean.

I'd be like, " No.

Like, this is literally perfect." Yeah.

everything I picked is perfect.

Yes.

No, that makes me so sad.

And then the chin thing with the scarf, like, that's horrifying.

That makes me, like, just sad because I see content all the time where

it's like, my first bully was my mom.

Mm-hmm.

And that's, like, tells me that she was probably, just saying those things and

then that becomes the voice in your head, So it's not just her wedding pictures

and her wedding day, but she's probably been doing that to her whole life.

Yeah, and it makes me wonder, like, think about, like, they're trying on

the the wedding dress, 'cause I've heard stories of that too, where they

make comments- Mm-hmm wearing the wedding dress and making comments

about their body and it's like, can you just let- her enjoy this moment.

Yes, and then it's making her focus more on her appearance when

she shouldn't be focused on that.

I mean, of course- Yeah … you wanna look beautiful feel beautiful, and that's

all that matters on your wedding day.

So I'm sure it just, like, she gets in her head, and then

you can't even enjoy the day.

That's, ugh.

Yeah.

I

don't like that.

No.

it says, "We finally managed to squeeze in the first look, but there was no time

left for portraits before the ceremony.

Side note, completely unrelated to the mom, but just adds how insane the day was,

the best man literally passed out right before handing the rings to the officiant.

The other groomsmen dragged him off through the trees, and

the ceremony just kept going."

I just saw a video- I don't know, on maybe TikTok or something, and the best

man passed out, … I think Madison Humphrey- … mainly did it, and I was

like, "This can't be real." Oh, that would be- And it literally happened.

the best man passed out, and they just, tried to carry him up, and they were

holding him, and he was, like, swaying.

obviously, like, drunk out of his mind.

I'm just like-

Oh, that's so bad.

I guess if he was drunk out of his mind, so it was one of those things where,

like, self-inflicted, as the best man, wouldn't you want them to keep going?

You know, where I'm like, "Just don't look at me," even though

it's, like, the only thing that people- Yeah … are looking at.

It's so humiliating, but in a way I'm like, "You know what?" Yeah.

"I probably would want them just to keep going."

Yes.

Oh, yeah.

But The thing I'm worried about is, a health concern.

Yeah.

You know, where they're, like, dragging their, limp body through the trees.

Like, I'm a little worried about- Just

hide him through

the bushes … the guy.

Yeah, it's like that's what I'm worried about.

does he need some medical attention?

Right, 'cause this doesn't say, what the reason is for him passing out.

Like, was he drunk?

Was it really hot?

Yeah.

Did he not drink any water that day?

Maybe we should be

a little more

concerned.

Right.

That's what I'm worried about.

Like, I want everybody to be, like, leaving the wedding ceremony alive,

that's like my number-one goal above and beyond, like, the perfect ceremony.

So that's the number-one thing.

If it is like, oh, he's just drunk, then it is… it's like, okay, go,

just go, like, sit down in the corner and, like- Yeah … drink some water,

and we're gonna keep this going.

Yes, and think about what you did.

yeah.

And you better, be thinking about it, and make it up to us at some point.

Yes.

Just thinking about the groomsmen dragging him through the trees,

I'm just like, "Oh my God." Yeah,

that's… I'm imagining this, limp body, getting, dragged through, and

everyone just, like, ignores it.

That's- I'm a little concerned for the guy.

Yeah.

Hopefully he was okay.

Yeah.

I'm hoping if they did that, they just know, like, "Oh, it's just Josh again.

He just passes out.

Like, he's good." Yeah.

Yeah.

God.

Like, that's just a thing he does.

Whatever.

It's fine

He's just kind of quirky.

after the ceremony, we were supposed to move quickly through family

photos so we could focus on getting the portraits of just the bride and

groom since we had missed it earlier.

The bride had made a very clear list for family photos, and I was following

it, but her mom kept jumping in, adding more and more group combinations.

Then she started pulling her own friends into the photos without the

bride and groom even being in them.

Oh, my gosh.

See, that's where also like- Oh, no … I know it's not in everyone's

budget, but, like, having a planner or a coordinator or someone there that

can, direct things is so helpful- Yeah

because, to have some, like, a mom come in and being like, " I'm the boss now.

You go there, you go there," I would just be, like, losing my mind.

That's so bad.

That's so bad.

you only get so many photos, and I don't know, I just feel like

the photo part is such a drag.

So just to, like, have her take it over and get all these photos of

people she probably didn't even know, and she's probably paying for it.

I mean- Yeah … maybe the mom was paying for it.

I guess that's, like, a detail we don't know, but

Yeah

… that's a disaster.

That's pretty bad.

Well, 'cause you know, too, maybe I'm making assumptions, but based

on, like, a lot of the stories that I read- Yeah … and since this is

coming from the photographers, we're not getting it, from the bride where

I would maybe get more details.

You know- Mm-hmm … this is the kind of mom that controlled the

wedding guest list, is like, "Oh, we're inviting these 50 people."

Yeah.

" You haven't seen them since you were a baby, but they're my friends," I feel

like she probably- Totally had some… And the fact, again, that the,…

bride so quickly changed her lipstick, not once, not twice, but three times.

Mm-hmm.

The mom's definitely- Yeah … had some push and pull in this wedding.

She probably picked the venue- Totally … you know, made things her way.

Yeah, I think that's a fair assumption just based on everything

else we've heard about this mom.

Yes.

I wouldn't put it past her.

No.

You know what's interesting is, on my wedding day, my mom, this

isn't, an evil thing, it was just her being her chaotic self.

She, loves her camera.

She has this, really nice camera.

She doesn't totally know how to use it all the time, and

she brought it to my wedding.

And, I have the photographer taking photos of us, and my mom would come

in and, try to snap photos too.

So then my photographer would have to, like, wait for her

to, like, get her photo.

so there was a moment in there that I kept reliving over and over again where I

just had to, tell her pretty, firmly, "You gotta stop with the camera." The camera

has to go away." I'm like, "I'm paying so much money for a professional to do this.

it's fine for us to get, like, iPhone photo." I'm totally

cool with, like, photos.

Yeah.

But I'm like, "The, big professional camera just, isn't it for today."

Yeah, like, you're off the clock today.

Let's let the professionals- Yes … do their job.

Yes.

Yes.

I wanted her to be in them, and she kept taking her camera out, and

she just, like, doesn't know it.

She was, like, trying to, like, figure out the settings.

She's, like, learning how to use it- … on the spot.

And I'm like, "I want you to be in these photos.

put the camera down.

I want you to be in these photos.

I don't want your camera, anywhere near this day.

Like, you can take it out any other time but today."

That's so funny.

Oh.

It makes

me think of, like-

Yeah

when they're like, no photos during the ceremony, and you always see,

like, an Uncle Bob or something, standing there with his iPad.

Yeah.

And it's like, "Uncle Bob"- The

iPad, yeah

… " we got a photographer."

you always see the down the, you know, like, they try to get, the aisle ones

with, the audience or whatever, and, you see, the big iPad in the way or,

and, like, right to the left covering somebody, like, one of, the bridesmaids

or something, and you're like, "Oh, no."

No, I saw-

Uncle Bob is gonna be in trouble.

I saw one where it was literally covering the bride.

The bride and, Oh … the groom were walking back down, it was planned,

and there was literally, someone in the front standing with their iPad,

it was the photographer saying, "This is why we say, no phones, no iPads."

Yeah.

and it's so funny- Yeah … 'cause, you'll hear a lot of times they talk

about, older generations will be like, "Oh, the millennials and Gen Z, they're

always on their phones," but then a lot of times at those kind of events,

Mm-hmm

… again, it's a lot of generalization, so apologies to people listening- Yeah

if you're offended.

But, a lot of times at those events then you see, older people are the

ones with their phones and iPads, and it's like, "Put them away."

Yeah.

" Okay, we got a photographer."

Yeah, or in my mom's, case with her giant, I don't even know what it

is, like a Canon or something, that she doesn't know how to use yet,

that she's trying to snap a couple.

But, I'm like, "Maybe, like, one or two, go ahead." But it was, like, got

to a point where she would, like, my photographer would have to pause for her

to get her photo, and I'm like, "What are we doing?" Like, we've gotta, put it away,

we just don't have the time to, like, get you trained into how to use your camera

on a day where I want you in the photos.

… we're not doing this.

That's

so funny.

Yeah.

No.

Okay, so she says, " At that point, I had to step in again and explain we were on a

timeline and had to stick to, this list.

I told her we needed to move forward so we could get photos of the actual couple.

She stormed off in a huff."

She's probably never been told no before.

Yeah.

" Then came the reception." But honestly,

thank God.

Yes.

I know.

especially, I feel like wedding professionals that work a lot of

weddings have to have a strong backbone to say no to people.

Yeah.

Like, my photographer was really good at, like, getting people together and

be like, "Nope, it's time for this.

Okay, we need to get mom," or, "We need to get, you know, whoever over

here." ' Cause they probably deal- It's true … with a lot of unhinged people,

or people that are just kinda like- That

is true

… not listening.

Yeah, that's a good point.

it's a good personality type to be, like, super, like, keep it,

things in, be in charge, don't be afraid of people's feelings.

Just, keep it moving forward.

Yeah.

I was saying, like, I'm typically a pretty introverted person, but

when I'm hired for, like, day of coordinator, which I don't do too

much anymore, but here and there- Yeah you give me a schedule, I will make

sure… I'm like, you need to be here.

Okay, put the water down.

Get in this photo." 'Cause I've had, like, younger s- like- Yeah … siblings

that'll be like, "I don't wanna be in this photo." Not, I'm not talking kids.

I'm talking, like- Yeah … adults that are, like, complaining.

Like, "I don't wanna be in this photo." I'm like, " Put your food down."

Yeah.

" Get in the photo.

We only got 10 more minutes."

Yeah.

"And then you gotta put your dress…" You know, whatever.

Yeah.

Or people that change out of their dress- And every minute counts … before.

Yeah.

Yeah, every minute counts.

It's a crazy, crazy day.

Yes.

Yeah.

it's a crazy job.

I am, impressed because I feel like I would be immediately, like,

everyone would be behind schedule.

Yes.

Be like in the corner, like, talking to the guests.

Yeah.

Right.

she said, "Then came the reception, which was easily the most unhinged part of the

day. There was only one speech scheduled, and it was from the mom." Oh, no.

" That alone should have been a red flag.

She got up with a manila folder- Oh, no … and a gift bag.

Immediately started crying- no … and launched into a story about how, as

a child, the bride always wanted a backpack from some '90s pop group.

She then handed the, the gift bag to the bride.

The bride pulled out a child-sized backpack." What?

Oh, no.

Then the mom- It keeps, keeps getting worse.

I'm just picturing this.

Like, she's like, "This is my grand moment to make my speech."

Yeah.

" Then the mom opened the folder and started passing around childhood photos of the

bride to the entire room, including pictures of her in the bathtub."

Oh, no.

Why?

Like- I feel bad for this bride

… I need to know how many people were here, and, like, how she's walking around.

Like, take one and pass it, you know?

Like…

Yeah.

it's like show and tell.

Yeah.

Like, oh, this is so bad.

That would be weird.

Okay.

Maybe

not.

can we pause on the backpack for a second?

Because, what, did she wait, like, 20… she said no for how many years?

And she's like, "I'm gonna say no to the only thing you want in your entire

childhood and give it to you when you're, like, 25 or 30 years old?"

When you no longer care about

the backpack.

Like, I don't

know, I would just be, like, offended.

I would be.

Yeah, I would just be offended.

I'm like, "So you're saying you want to say no? You held this

over my head for 25 years?"

yeah

… you could have given it to me, could, when I could have actually used it.

Right.

You know?

I don't know.

Or maybe I'm, like, not catching.

what was the point she was trying to make with the backpack?

that part seems very odd to me, 'cause I'm like-

Yeah

… did he finally think, her wedding night was the moment to give it to her?

' Cause I'm also like- Yeah … the whole, like, gift thing, if you wanna

make a gift sincerely about the person, you don't need an audience, right?

So I feel like if she actually- Yeah

was, like, sentimental of, like, something you wanted when you were a

kid, and the night before the wedding or, like, they went out to dinner the

week of, I feel like that would be sweet.

But the fact that she did it- Yeah … she was like, "Here's this '90s backpack.

Open it up," that seems weird to me.

She wanted this whole audience.

Yeah.

I don't know.

That's weird.

Very strange.

No, I agree with that.

Gifts should just be… sentimental gifts, that's a, one-on-one situation.

Yeah.

That didn't need to be a part of the speech.

Yeah, that's interesting.

Okay.

so she goes, "I went home thinking, what did I just witness?

But figured at least it was over.

Nope.

After I delivered the gallery, the mom called me furious.

She complained that there were only 127 photos of her and the bride."

I could throw up.

127? What?

With the bride and the mom.

That is a lot.

I don't even think I. Oh my God, what are you even doing for money?

No, seriously.

What?

That's so many photos

What is she gonna do with all those?

give them out

at her- Yeah, that is… Or maybe she was just, so mean that she, like, didn't like

any of them, she seems to be very picky-

Critical

… mother, so maybe she, didn't like… Yeah, critical.

So she maybe didn't like the angle or, they just weren't good enough for her.

Yeah.

It

seems like nothing's good enough for this woman.

Yeah.

Oh my-

Yeah, that is, ugh

… wild behavior.

Ugh, that would be a hard customer.

Yes.

I know, 'cause that's the thing, too.

It's like she probably wasn't even hired by… Maybe she was

hired by the mom, I don't know.

But to, like- Mm … mom come in and sabotage all these things

and, try to make it her own.

so she ends- Mm … with saying, "To be clear, I knew she would want

a lot of photos, so I'd already gone out of my way to take plenty.

But apparently a quarter of the entire gallery wasn't enough.

I finally had to tell her very directly that she was not my client, and that she

needed to take it up with her daughter.

Hands down one of the most chaotic weddings I've ever worked."

That's really bad.

I feel bad for the daughter.

Yeah.

I feel like that

would be so- That's really bad.

And, like, the daughter would be… Like, I would be, as the daughter, horrified

even knowing that my mom reached out to the photographer to, critique her.

Yeah.

That within itself is, like, so horrifying-

Yeah

… to me.

And it makes me think that

was- Ugh … not the

only vendor the mom reached out to.

You know she had other

companies.

Yeah

Oh.

And I feel like that'd be so- I'm just, I'm just thinking about all the admin

that the daughter has to deal with.

This is a lifetime-

Mm

of, tiptoeing, listening to all of her complaints.

That is just so draining on somebody, and this kids aren't

even involved at this point.

Yeah.

I feel like once kids get involved, then it's 10X as bad as it was.

I, yeah, I just feel bad for her.

Yeah.

For the bride.

I feel like that would be so hard as the wedding vendor to, like, have a

client you're working with, and then having a parent come in and be like,

"No, you need to do it this way.

Ooh … Do it this way." And you're like, "Well, you're not my client.

Sorry."

Totally

… that'd

be- Yeah.

I'm sure they see it enough, like what she said was a perfect thing to say,

which is like, "You're not the client.

Your daughter is my client.

I listened to everything she needed, so take it up with her.

Like, Too many cooks in the kitchen- Yeah

… at this point." Yeah.

You have to just, cut it.

' Cause I think the mom's been used to, like we saw in the beginning, she's been

used to, like, being catered around.

if things are not,

Yeah

… the way, she can't control a certain way, like, she's gonna make it

go this way, and the daughter's gonna bend backwards for her.

And so I think the fact that the photographer- Mm-hmm … was like,

"No. I can't do anything else. You're not my client." Also, what

does she want her to do, go back in time or, like, give her a refund?

She's like, no, she did her job.

It's not in the contract- Yeah … to get 500 photos of the mom and the bride.

It's not your day.

Right.

Right.

Wild.

That is wild.

Yeah.

Oh,

my.

Ugh.

I wonder if she's an only child or if she had siblings, or, maybe an only daughter.

It feels like it's, only daughter or only child.

Mm-hmm.

Maybe.

Yeah.

' Cause that woman's got a lot of energy for one day.

Yes

… I don't know.

Feels like there's a lot of build-up to that.

Yes.

Oh, man.

If you are the bride that received a backpack on her wedding day and you wanna

reach out with more details, please do.

my hope is that never surfaces-

Yeah.

Yeah, where are you now?

I know.

Where are they now?

'Cause it's like whenever I get to reach out- Yeah, are they okay?

to vendors, I love hearing from their perspective, but it's so different than,

the bride perspective because, there's a lot of missing details, and I'm like, "I

need to know more." Like, I wanna- Like,

I bet we don't even know the, like… I bet it's, like, just the

tip of the iceberg with this lady.

Yes.

You know?

Like, I bet there's so much more behind that.

I

know.

We need to know about the planning process, the post-wedding.

What was that?

Yeah.

The call after the- Yeah … photographer told her no.

What did the mom call and

say?

Oh, man.

Gosh.

100%, yeah.

Even the backpack.

let's learn more about this backpack.

more.

Yes.

What was the '90s band, first and foremost?

Yeah.

And-

Yeah

… yeah.

Oh my gosh.

Okay.

So I always like to end these with confessions that

people send me on Instagram.

it says- Okay … a compromise you made for your wedding that

you now resent a little bit.

This person said, "A photographer my mother-in-law knew.

We never got the full pictures, and he sucked." I always say-

Mm-hmm … the photographer is one that you have to be so careful about.

I've heard people hiring family friends or, like, a cousin, and-

Yeah … this

is what happens.

Yeah, and you can never get that day back.

you can never get the photos back, so it's definitely worth the investment.

Yeah.

that time we held a wedding and didn't elope

Oh, they wish they eloped … wish they eloped.

Mm. Mm-hmm.

That's fine.

That tells me someone convinced

them or

was like, "You have to have a wedding." Yeah.

And I always feel like- Yeah … when you're so, like, convinced in the

beginning that it becomes someone else's day, you wanted to- Yeah … have a big

wedding and they said elope, or they wanted, you know, vice versa, You're

gonna look back and be like, "Oh, I should've done it the other way,"

because then it becomes their- Totally

decision.

You gotta

go with your gut.

Mm-hmm.

Totally.

You have to go with your gut and do what's right with, for you.

And yeah, you hear that a lot where it's like, "We just wanna be married.

We don't wanna have the day," Yes.

But, if that's what your heart wants, you should just go do it.

Who cares who you piss off?

Yeah.

this person says- I

know it's way easier said than done.

Yeah.

I know.

I always try to say, I'm like, "I know I'm not in the situation. This is

just an outside- No … perspective."

Yeah, exactly.

Exactly.

Oh, okay, and this person says, "Inviting people my husband insisted

on, but we don't like them that much."

Oh, why would you invite people you don't like?

Oh, right.

Ugh.

Wait, her husband wanted them- Yeah … to come?

' Cause he insisted on inviting people.

Okay.

Why would he want… Wait, why would he want them there?

Right?

That's so odd to me.

So you don't like people, but you want them at, he insisted

on having them at your wedding.

Unless there's some weird, family tie.

You know, it's, like, childhood friends that they just feel like they have

to have for formality sake maybe.

I don't know.

Yeah, they'd feel bad or something.

Yeah.

All right.

Last one, "Not speaking up about my guest list." I hear that one.

Mm.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

that's another one I hear- Yeah, that's

a lot of emotions.

Yeah.

I feel like there's a lot of control when it comes to guest lists.

again, that was one thing I was really lucky, like, I did not have

anyone coming and saying, "Oh, you have to invite this person." It was

kinda just like I went to, like, my parents and my in-laws and was like,

"Hey, tell me if there's people- Yeah

you want invited," and, that's kinda what we did.

But I hear so many stories- Yeah … about people being like, "You have to invite

Marsha." And it's like, Marsha was our neighbor when we were three years old.

I don't know Marsha.

You know, like-

Totally.

Yeah.

It's true.

I think it's, can get so heated and it's so emotional, and it deals with

money because with every seat, isn't it, like, I'm sure it's, way…

I wonder, do you know what, like, the numbers are now?

average cost per seat is, 200 bucks per head or something.

Oh, yeah.

Like- It's so insane … which is crazy.

So then you're like, why am I bringing Marsha into our special day when I haven't

seen this woman in, 31 years?" It's, yeah.

Yeah.

It gets chaotic.

I was lucky, too, where I didn't, I don't remember any specific drama.

But when it's like, oh, my, somebody's dad is paying for it and

then the mother-in-law is, inviting half the wedding, it just feels

like this game of, fairness, and yeah, it just gets super awkward.

Very awkward.

Yes.

No, totally agree.

All right.

Yeah.

Well, that was a wild, wild story, wild confessions.

Thank you so much for- Yeah … coming on.

It was great officially meeting

you.

Thanks for having me.

Yeah.

Yes.

You, too.

I'll look out for some more skits, some more drama skits.

Yes.

I love your content.

Thank you.

I know, I love yours, too.

I was saying, like, I, your, humor always, cracks me up because I feel

like it's, relatable and, like, it reminds me of people I know, and I'm

just like, this is pretty funny."

Yeah.

so tell everyone again- Thank you … where they can follow

you, find your content, and then anything fun you're kinda working on.

Yeah.

call me Kristen Marie on every single channel, so Instagram, TikTok, YouTube.

oh, and Facebook.

So those are, like, my drama hub, and then, Instagram is all,

exclusive comedy for the most part.

So yeah.

I'm working on mostly right now just my fun drama series, which is sort

of, like, the antidote to my comedy.

and just lots more drama to come through the rest of the year.

So hopefully people can come, find me on any of those channels.

Awesome.

I love it, and we'll, link it

all.

Yeah.

Oh.

Well, thanks again.

Awesome.

Thanks, Krista.

It's nice to meet you.

You, too.