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<v Speaker 2>You got grown ass wrestlers in the back going on Twitter.
<v Speaker 1>Come over here, hearty. Is that Pet Patterson you have legs? Weekend?
<v Speaker 1>I was ninety nine percent positive it was just chested up.
<v Speaker 2>Now I have been begging him for a job on
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<v Speaker 1>This is episode nine seventy four of the Solemn Monster
<v Speaker 1>Sounds Off at is Sunday, August second, twenty twenty six.
<v Speaker 1>I am the Solo Monster. We are currently in between
<v Speaker 1>both nights of Summer Slim. Night one is in the
<v Speaker 1>books and the full video full recap is up on
<v Speaker 1>YouTube right now. I do have a lot to say though, insummation,
<v Speaker 1>as far as fallout from Night one and something I
<v Speaker 1>didn't get a chance to address last night, and the
<v Speaker 1>review which was Triple H's post show comments. So I'm
<v Speaker 1>going to talk about that dark side of the ring
<v Speaker 1>review on the Big boss Man episode from this past week,
<v Speaker 1>and a bunch of other things. I want to thank
<v Speaker 1>you guys for ninety three thousand subscribers on YouTube, even
<v Speaker 1>though Meltzer is saying it's actually seventy eight thousand, but
<v Speaker 1>thank you for getting me there. Onward and upward man,
<v Speaker 1>now it's ninety four. That's the next goal. You could,
<v Speaker 1>of course find me on their Live tonight for the
<v Speaker 1>night Io post show. Before we get into all the news, though,
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<v Speaker 1>thank you to Rachel from the Badger State. Thank you
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<v Speaker 1>I pointed out on X the other day, which was
<v Speaker 1>that this week the seven year anniversary this past Thursday,
<v Speaker 1>since I was able to get my mother's children's book published.
<v Speaker 1>Believe it or not, it's been seven years since the
<v Speaker 1>Adventure of Hardy the Horse was released. I can't even
<v Speaker 1>believe it's been that long. But if you have a
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<v Speaker 1>as wrestling fans, it's fun to fantasy book because we
<v Speaker 1>all do it, and now there is an app that
<v Speaker 1>allows you to do just that. It's a mobile game
<v Speaker 1>called Eras of Wrestling set in the world with hundreds
<v Speaker 1>of original characters, each with their own lore. You play
<v Speaker 1>as the general manager running your very own wrestling promotion,
<v Speaker 1>and you ca let cards for wrestlers, managers, match types, venues, promos,
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of stuff. Then you use those cards to
<v Speaker 1>run shows, and you can customize things like teams and
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<v Speaker 1>comic book presentation. It plays great in short spurts or
<v Speaker 1>marathon sessions, and the best part is that it's free
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<v Speaker 1>See it gives a whole new meaning to be the booker,
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<v Speaker 1>your phone or your tablet, So get to it. This Friday,
<v Speaker 1>House of Glory presents High Intensity twenty twenty six from
<v Speaker 1>the NYC Arena. We are five rows deep and damn
<v Speaker 1>near sold out, but tickets are still available hog Wrestling
<v Speaker 1>dot Net and this is a big one for us.
<v Speaker 1>The first time ever that we are streaming the event
<v Speaker 1>live and free in full on the official House of
<v Speaker 1>Glory YouTube channel. So if you've never had a chance
<v Speaker 1>to sample the show before, there is no better time
<v Speaker 1>than this Friday night. I believe the official handle on
<v Speaker 1>there is Hog Wrestling. You'll be able to tell. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>we're closing in on ninety thousand subscribers there seven pm
<v Speaker 1>Eastern start time. I will be on the call with
<v Speaker 1>JD and among the matches that you will see, Charles
<v Speaker 1>Mason defends his HG World Championship against the Mad King
<v Speaker 1>Eddie Kingston Zillifa two will be in the house. He's
<v Speaker 1>going to be defending his Crown Jewel Championship against the
<v Speaker 1>Amazing Red and I know that's a match that Zilla
<v Speaker 1>has wanted for a very long time, so he gets it.
<v Speaker 1>This Friday, the Hardys will be in the house defending
<v Speaker 1>their Hrog Tag team titles. Shatzi Blackheart puts her Hog
<v Speaker 1>Women's championship on the line against the Queen of Spades SHANEA. Basler.
<v Speaker 1>We got Darren Richardson defending his Cruiserweight title against the
<v Speaker 1>Blackhart Leo Rush, Mitas Black and Jay Line, three times
<v Speaker 1>Hog Tag Team champions. They've had a falling out and man,
<v Speaker 1>it breaks my heart to see it. Now they face
<v Speaker 1>each other one on one. I don't know what's gotten
<v Speaker 1>into Midas this year. He has not been right since
<v Speaker 1>they lost those tag belts to the Hardys. Lions had
<v Speaker 1>enough of his shit. It all comes to a head
<v Speaker 1>this Friday. We got Bang Bang Ricky Sosa debuting for
<v Speaker 1>US in Chicago. Right. We had him back in June.
<v Speaker 1>He was supposed to be at our last New York show,
<v Speaker 1>but he couldn't make it. This Friday, he makes up
<v Speaker 1>for it. He'll be in Action Taken on Casey Navarro,
<v Speaker 1>and we got the annual Matt Travis Memorial Battle Royal
<v Speaker 1>for a championship contract that is on the menu This Friday.
<v Speaker 1>As well. That contract is how Charles Mason won that
<v Speaker 1>title in the first place, and he didn't even win
<v Speaker 1>the Battle Royal. One of his minions did at the
<v Speaker 1>time and offered it to him, and that's how Mike
<v Speaker 1>Santana's reign as champion came to an end. So that
<v Speaker 1>Battle Royal carries some great significance to it. Could be
<v Speaker 1>a contract for any championship. Really believe me when I
<v Speaker 1>tell you though, We have been working very hard to
<v Speaker 1>put together one of our best cards ever and I
<v Speaker 1>think that you're gonna like it more than you will SmackDown.
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm going out on a limb saying that,
<v Speaker 1>but I'm pretty sure you will. And this is why
<v Speaker 1>I will not be live for the post show this
<v Speaker 1>Friday on YouTube. I'll be on a different YouTube channel,
<v Speaker 1>but I'll be in Queen's I hope to see you there.
<v Speaker 1>If you cannot make it, YouTube is the next best
<v Speaker 1>place I want to see my Sounduff family represented in
<v Speaker 1>the live chat. We also just announced our next Los
<v Speaker 1>Angeles date, back at the Globe Theater for Fallout on
<v Speaker 1>Friday night, September fourth. Already announced for the show, the
<v Speaker 1>Protos star the reigning aew International Champion. Kyle Fletcher will
<v Speaker 1>be in action. It's been a while. The last time
<v Speaker 1>Fletcher was in an hog ring, it was with Mark
<v Speaker 1>Davis to challenge the Britskoes for the hog Tag team titles.
<v Speaker 1>I was four years ago. This is a very different
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Fletcher than the man we saw that night. Will
<v Speaker 1>he even be the International champion when he gets to
<v Speaker 1>la If not, that's going to be a long flight
<v Speaker 1>back from London. But he'll be there and I'll be
<v Speaker 1>there too. Tickets are on sale right now. Before I
<v Speaker 1>get into Summer Slam. There's some miscellaneous items I have
<v Speaker 1>on the agenda here that I want to talk about. First,
<v Speaker 1>wrestle Mania this year, remember change venues. It was originally
<v Speaker 1>scheduled to take place in New Orleans. TKO got greedy, surprise, surprise.
<v Speaker 1>They saw how much money they made in Las Vegas
<v Speaker 1>last year, so they decided to bring it back. Well,
<v Speaker 1>Triple Mania was already announced for Las Vegas this year,
<v Speaker 1>Triple Mania thirty four. It's going to be a two
<v Speaker 1>night event. Night one in Vegas on Friday night, September eleventh,
<v Speaker 1>Night two on Sunday, September thirteenth, in Mexico City. Originally,
<v Speaker 1>Night one was going to be held at the Luxor
<v Speaker 1>Hotel and Casino. They sold out instantly. Not a lot
<v Speaker 1>of tickets, but they sold out instantly due to the
<v Speaker 1>high demand. They have now moved the show out of
<v Speaker 1>the Luxor, which would have fit maybe fifteen hundred people,
<v Speaker 1>and into the much larger MGM Grand Garden Arena, which
<v Speaker 1>can fit over fifteen thousand for wrestling. Money in the
<v Speaker 1>Bank was held there in twenty twenty two. Aw held
<v Speaker 1>its first ever pay per view Double or Nothing there
<v Speaker 1>in twenty nineteen. People who already bought tickets to Night one,
<v Speaker 1>they will be getting more information in the days to
<v Speaker 1>come about what this means for their seats, but the
<v Speaker 1>date and time remained the same for the show for
<v Speaker 1>a triple Mania. I don't know why they would have
<v Speaker 1>booked the Luxor in the first place. I think they
<v Speaker 1>greatly underestimated the domestic interest in a triple A show.
<v Speaker 1>But it's a great sign for the brand now. The
<v Speaker 1>first week of WWE Radio on SiriusXM is in the
<v Speaker 1>books after they replaced the Pro Wrestling twenty four to
<v Speaker 1>seven channel with all WWE All the time, with some
<v Speaker 1>TNA sprinkled in there. And by the way, this is
<v Speaker 1>as good a place as any to bring this up.
<v Speaker 1>Another example of why LOL TNA will never die. For
<v Speaker 1>those of you who may be living under a rock,
<v Speaker 1>or maybe you don't live in the US, in which
<v Speaker 1>case you may not know. Lebron James recently signed to
<v Speaker 1>play for the Philadelphia seventy six ers. TNA happened to
<v Speaker 1>have a live episode of Impact in Philadelphia on Thursday night,
<v Speaker 1>coming off the best ratings that they have done yet
<v Speaker 1>on AMC. The week before, they did three hundred and
<v Speaker 1>seven thousand viewers on the backs of Matt and Jeff
<v Speaker 1>Hardy in a Righteous deletion match from the Hardy Compound
<v Speaker 1>against the Righteous. So they were riding the little wave
<v Speaker 1>of momentum, so of course they would do something to
<v Speaker 1>try to fuck it all up. They extended an invitation
<v Speaker 1>to Lebron James to attend the show on Thursday and
<v Speaker 1>be the official title holder, the belt holder for the
<v Speaker 1>Nick Nemeth TNA title defense against Jeff Hardy, so he
<v Speaker 1>would present the winner with the championship when the match
<v Speaker 1>was over. It was clearly a pr stunt. Lebron has
<v Speaker 1>never watched a single minute of TNA his entire life.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you put a gun to his head,
<v Speaker 1>I doubt he could tell you what it even stands for.
<v Speaker 1>But TNA put out a promotional like a poster. They
<v Speaker 1>put out graphics on social media for it, like they
<v Speaker 1>thought he might actually show up. They put his face
<v Speaker 1>in there, his jersey was in there, and they knew
<v Speaker 1>he was not going to show up, but they did
<v Speaker 1>it anyway because it was a stunt. But it has
<v Speaker 1>to be the title holder for the world title match,
<v Speaker 1>right or that's what he was supposed to be, a
<v Speaker 1>world title match that never aired on the live show.
<v Speaker 1>They were tape television on Thursday as well. One of
<v Speaker 1>the matches they taped to air on a future date
<v Speaker 1>was Nick Nemeth against Jeff Hardy for the TNA World
<v Speaker 1>Heavyweight title. I want to know what they would have
<v Speaker 1>done if Lebron actually accepted their invitation. Would they have
<v Speaker 1>still taped it to air later on or would they
<v Speaker 1>have bumped it up to the live show, Because as
<v Speaker 1>it was, a lot of fans who saw these posts
<v Speaker 1>rightly assumed that the match was airing live on Thursday.
<v Speaker 1>They were very upset when it didn't because they did
<v Speaker 1>a poor job of communicating that to the people. Matt
<v Speaker 1>Hardy tried to defend this on social media. There is
<v Speaker 1>no defense for it. Even the champion himself, Nick Nemeth,
<v Speaker 1>said they could have done a better job of communicating
<v Speaker 1>to people that the match was not actually airing live
<v Speaker 1>on Thursday. Matt may not know this, Matt, Matt Hardy
<v Speaker 1>may not know this, but people screenshoted it. They absolutely
<v Speaker 1>advertised the title match on their website as far back
<v Speaker 1>as July eighth for Thursday, with the words airing live
<v Speaker 1>on AMC Thursday Night Impact. So they misled their audience.
<v Speaker 1>The minute you start putting shit like that out on
<v Speaker 1>social media, it is no longer tongue in cheek, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>but let's be honest. The real reason they did it
<v Speaker 1>was to try to draw viewers away from aw Collision,
<v Speaker 1>because they aired Collision on Thursday this week, to avoid
<v Speaker 1>colliding with SummerSlam. I mean, that's how you would say, right,
<v Speaker 1>they would be colliding with SummerSlam. That's why they did it.
<v Speaker 1>That's why they did it. Not only that they apparently
<v Speaker 1>tagged a Lebron James fan account on Instagram instead of
<v Speaker 1>Lebron's actual account. So Loltna is immortal. So I doubt
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna hear about all that on WWE radio now.
<v Speaker 1>But what you will hear is Tommy Dreamer heaping praise
<v Speaker 1>on that concert slop on Raw last Monday, talking about
<v Speaker 1>how oh it was great because it helped get Joe
<v Speaker 1>Hendry over. Yes, he really said that. Those were the
<v Speaker 1>words that actually left the mouth of Tommy Dreamer. I
<v Speaker 1>can't imagine why wanted him off creative with hot takes
<v Speaker 1>like that. But they had interviews with a bunch of
<v Speaker 1>WWE personalities throughout the week, like Seth Rollins and cmpunk.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's exactly the type of stuff that you
<v Speaker 1>would expect. They even had Triple H on Busted Open,
<v Speaker 1>and they posted the entire twenty minute video to their
<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel. Dave Lagreca and Nick Nemmuth were the ones
<v Speaker 1>who were quote unquote interviewing him. Dave Legreca chimed in
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times with comments, but he didn't ask
<v Speaker 1>a single question the entire interview, outside of Nick Nemmoth
<v Speaker 1>asking about house shows. I don't think there were any questions,
<v Speaker 1>so I'm not sure I could really call it an interview,
<v Speaker 1>that's not even really what it was. It was mostly
<v Speaker 1>a forum for Triple H to just talk about whatever
<v Speaker 1>he felt like, which included him talking about how he
<v Speaker 1>wishes the fans who criticize would put all of that
<v Speaker 1>passion into the talent and not the writing. I don't
<v Speaker 1>think the criticism isn't getting to him. You gotta watch
<v Speaker 1>this interview, but listen to this. This is what he
<v Speaker 1>had to say. That passion is what drives people. It's
<v Speaker 1>no different than the NFL, where guys that have never
<v Speaker 1>played a down of football in their life or haven't
<v Speaker 1>played since peewee or whatever are screaming and ranting. This
<v Speaker 1>coach sucks. He knows nothing about football, doesn't understand the game.
<v Speaker 1>Why would he run that play? Why wouldn't he do this?
<v Speaker 1>Why wouldn't he do that? Why would they draft that guy?
<v Speaker 1>There's millions of reasons why. But it's that passion. Just
<v Speaker 1>like the NFL or the NBA or Major League Baseball,
<v Speaker 1>people sit on the couch and they yell, I'm done,
<v Speaker 1>I'm never watching the Knicks again. They suck and then
<v Speaker 1>they win and now they're the greatest thing ever. It's amazing.
<v Speaker 1>It's passion. At the end of the day, it's why
<v Speaker 1>we do what we do. I was waiting for it.
<v Speaker 1>I was waiting for the reference. It's why we do
<v Speaker 1>what we do. That's his favorite go to quote. It's
<v Speaker 1>what we do, he says. I wish sometimes we could
<v Speaker 1>put that passion into the talent now opposed to when
<v Speaker 1>somebody gets heat in our business, it's like, God, why
<v Speaker 1>would they write that that way? As opposed to that
<v Speaker 1>no good piece of crap did this. There's something about
<v Speaker 1>that innocence of not knowing and it's still real to me,
<v Speaker 1>damn it. First off, him throwing out all of these
<v Speaker 1>sports analogies is really lame because at the end of
<v Speaker 1>the day, it's a television show. It's not a sport.
<v Speaker 1>It's a TV show with writers and predetermined outcomes. And
<v Speaker 1>I always praise the roster, like you can have the
<v Speaker 1>greatest roster ever assembled. But if the writing is terrible
<v Speaker 1>and the creative is bad, it don't matter. It doesn't matter.
<v Speaker 1>Stop pretending you're like the NFL or the NBA or
<v Speaker 1>Major League Baseball. You're not. If you really were like
<v Speaker 1>those leagues, there would be a union and a collective
<v Speaker 1>bargaining agreement. But we don't need to get into that.
<v Speaker 1>But if you are of the belief that kfab needs
<v Speaker 1>to make comeback, which it's not, okay, it can never
<v Speaker 1>come back the way that it used to be. The
<v Speaker 1>toothpaste is out of the tube already, okay, and they
<v Speaker 1>did a lot to make that happen, quite frankly, But
<v Speaker 1>if that's how you feel, that's reasonable. Like he's not
<v Speaker 1>wrong in that regard. But for him, of all people,
<v Speaker 1>to sit there and say something like that and in
<v Speaker 1>the very next breath he'll be promoting the next season
<v Speaker 1>of fucking Unreal on Netflix, it shows how disconnected he
<v Speaker 1>is to reality. Oh I wish the fans would believe more.
<v Speaker 1>I wish we could get back to that a little bit.
<v Speaker 1>But let's throw it in people's face every week, how
<v Speaker 1>fake the entire show is. Let's get my name on
<v Speaker 1>screen in the credits at the very end of every
<v Speaker 1>show so they know who produces it. Let's bring fans
<v Speaker 1>into the gorilla position with all the wrestlers congratulating each
<v Speaker 1>other for their performance. Let's take cameras into the writer's
<v Speaker 1>room and remind people why the shows are so fucking terrible.
<v Speaker 1>In the first place. You know, they posted the full
<v Speaker 1>segment from Monday of that god awful Joe Hendry concert
<v Speaker 1>with Dan Housen. They have since scrubbed it from their
<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel. The best you could find now is a
<v Speaker 1>clip from the end where they had some ZUFA boxer
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Garcia get in the ring and hit Henry in
<v Speaker 1>the back with the guitar and then he posed with
<v Speaker 1>the judgment day. I had no idea who he was,
<v Speaker 1>but everyone was in an uproar on social media over
<v Speaker 1>comments that he has made in the past and they're bad, Like,
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe they would put a piece of shit
<v Speaker 1>like this on their show. Bad. But even before I
<v Speaker 1>knew about any of that stuff, I was just offended
<v Speaker 1>that he was involved in this segment at all. Now.
<v Speaker 1>Wressel Votes Radio on Fight Full Select reported on Thursday
<v Speaker 1>that Monday's raw at the ind of It Dome in
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles carried additional importance as several Netflix executives were
<v Speaker 1>said to be in attendance. One source reportedly described the
<v Speaker 1>opening segment featuring Paul Hayman, Oba Femi, and Brock Lesner
<v Speaker 1>as not a good look, citing the microphone issues that
<v Speaker 1>Haymon dealt with and the botched Fall from Grace spot.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, when Oba was beating up the fake cops,
<v Speaker 1>there was a little uh. There was a little stumble
<v Speaker 1>when he tried to pick the guy up for the
<v Speaker 1>Fall from Grace. I it wasn't that big of a deal,
<v Speaker 1>but it was noticeable anyway, The report says. It was
<v Speaker 1>also noted that the Dan Hausen and Joe Hendry segment
<v Speaker 1>missed the mark, with Ryan Garcia's appearance being considered underwhelming
<v Speaker 1>and unnecessary given the controversy surrounding the boxer. This makes
<v Speaker 1>it so much worse the fact that they had Netflix
<v Speaker 1>executives in attendance and they were trying to put their
<v Speaker 1>best foot forward and they actually greenlit that segment. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>if that isn't an indictment of the creative brain trust
<v Speaker 1>in this company, I don't know what is. People also
<v Speaker 1>wanted my thoughts on the Grayson Waller work shoot promo
<v Speaker 1>from NXT on Tuesday Night. Now, we haven't seen Waller
<v Speaker 1>on TV prior to this, since he was squashed by
<v Speaker 1>Obafemi back in April. They had him hanging around New
<v Speaker 1>Day for months and months. Once the New Day split
<v Speaker 1>that left Waller without any direction. But I mean, let's
<v Speaker 1>be real here, he hasn't had a direction since Austin
<v Speaker 1>Theory got hurt and disappeared for all those months, but
<v Speaker 1>then he reappeared as part of the vision Austin Theory
<v Speaker 1>did when I actually thought that Grayson Waller would have
<v Speaker 1>made more sense for the vision. But we never did
<v Speaker 1>get a match between the two of them, even though
<v Speaker 1>they tagged for I mean literally they tagged for years
<v Speaker 1>and it had become a running joke. It was a punchline,
<v Speaker 1>like the constant teases of a split between the two
<v Speaker 1>of them, and then they would pull back, and then
<v Speaker 1>they would tease it and then they would pull back.
<v Speaker 1>That's when they actually were given television time, which was
<v Speaker 1>very rare. And then Theory got hurt and Waller was
<v Speaker 1>talking shit about him on TV or He's soft. But
<v Speaker 1>that was it. That was the end of it. So
<v Speaker 1>in a last ditch effort to save this man's career,
<v Speaker 1>Sean Michaels put a microphone in his hand and had
<v Speaker 1>him walk out there unannounced to cut a worked shoot promo.
<v Speaker 1>There were people in the chat. I was doing TNT
<v Speaker 1>Live with JD on his channel and people in the
<v Speaker 1>chat were just, Oh, my god, the grace grace of
<v Speaker 1>Waller pipe bine. You gotta see this promo. You gotta
<v Speaker 1>see this pro over and over and over again. This
<v Speaker 1>is the promo, right. He said that it was time
<v Speaker 1>he started rattling some cages. He made his main roster
<v Speaker 1>debut at Madison Square Garden, and then he broke his leg,
<v Speaker 1>but he fought his way back. He went to WrestleMania,
<v Speaker 1>he won the SmackDown tag team titles. But then something changed,
<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't his work ethic, it wasn't his talent.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he didn't politic or kiss the right ass, but
<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years of his career have been
<v Speaker 1>in absolute embarrassment, and he's mad enough to admit it.
<v Speaker 1>Says he spent a year carrying two hundred and forty
<v Speaker 1>pounds of idiot on my back, making him relevant again,
<v Speaker 1>so much so that these people actually chanted his name
<v Speaker 1>never before, never since. But I don't care how many
<v Speaker 1>bells and whistles you give him. At the end of
<v Speaker 1>the day, that Marty Janetti is still allergic to the microphone.
<v Speaker 1>So let me stop there without naming him. He buried
<v Speaker 1>Austin Theory by calling him the Marty Janetti of the team.
<v Speaker 1>This made no sense because Theory is the one on
<v Speaker 1>television every week and one half of the Tag Team Champions,
<v Speaker 1>while Waller needed a workshoot promo to try to revive
<v Speaker 1>his career because the company he works for has no
<v Speaker 1>idea what to do with him, which seems there's a
<v Speaker 1>lot of that going around lately. But how does that
<v Speaker 1>make Theory the Janetti of their team? If anything, that
<v Speaker 1>makes Waller the Janetti of the team. If he wanted
<v Speaker 1>to argue that he's the more talented of the two,
<v Speaker 1>then just say so instead of using this dated reference
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't even really make sense here in this context,
<v Speaker 1>like the talent gap between Sean and Marty was not
<v Speaker 1>nearly as big as some people make it out to be.
<v Speaker 1>The reason Marty Jeanetti did not find more success as
<v Speaker 1>a single has more to do with his own fuck
<v Speaker 1>ups than anything else. You find it funny, though, that
<v Speaker 1>it was Sean Michaels who thought it was who thought
<v Speaker 1>a Marty Janetti reference would be good in this promo
<v Speaker 1>here in the twenty twenty six, But he goes on
<v Speaker 1>he said that it was ironic that he was dressed
<v Speaker 1>for a funeral, referring to all those segments with New
<v Speaker 1>Day after they lost the tag team titles where they
<v Speaker 1>dressed up like they were in mourning. But the only
<v Speaker 1>thing dying was my career. But it's a new day,
<v Speaker 1>he said. He can cash a check and sit and
<v Speaker 1>catering instead. He got himself in the best shape of
<v Speaker 1>his career. He's had demons though. One of those demons
<v Speaker 1>is the NXT Championship. He said that title used to
<v Speaker 1>mean something. He said, when you win the title, you
<v Speaker 1>get treated like a god. He said he didn't, so
<v Speaker 1>he gets treated like a Netflix ad break comedy act.
<v Speaker 1>And he said that he's going to change that by
<v Speaker 1>coming after the NXT Championship. He said, Cruz Montana, which
<v Speaker 1>is Mike Santana's real name or not his real name,
<v Speaker 1>is new name. Actually, some people might believe that Mike
<v Speaker 1>Santana is his real names. It is not, but he
<v Speaker 1>said Cruz Montana will. It'll be a shiny new toy
<v Speaker 1>that people won't care about in a few weeks. He said,
<v Speaker 1>it's not two thousand and five. Because being the best
<v Speaker 1>man in TNA is like being the best talent in
<v Speaker 1>a local YMCA. You know, I wonder if TNA lets
<v Speaker 1>him go in raw when they bend over for him,
<v Speaker 1>or if they at least insist on lubing up first.
<v Speaker 1>We know who the dominant one is in that relationship.
<v Speaker 1>Waller said that Tony DiAngelo only won the championship because
<v Speaker 1>no one was left. Said, the NXT men's roster is soft.
<v Speaker 1>You're lazy, you're complacent, you're happy to be here. The
<v Speaker 1>women of NXT are running laps around you. Yet ninety
<v Speaker 1>percent of you think that you should get called up tomorrow.
<v Speaker 1>But here's the secret, ladies and gentlemen. I look at
<v Speaker 1>that roster, maybe ten percent is ready. They're all women,
<v Speaker 1>and the fans in the PC each yeared because they
<v Speaker 1>know it's true. He called all the indie guys in
<v Speaker 1>the Evolved brand Charisma vacuum. He said, HBK is smiling
<v Speaker 1>back at Gorilla because he's finally telling the truth. And
<v Speaker 1>then finally they cut his mic. What they wanted was
<v Speaker 1>a viral moment with this promo, so they got what
<v Speaker 1>they wanted out of it. Social media was a blaze
<v Speaker 1>about this Grason Waller promo. People have been overrating this
<v Speaker 1>all week. Waller did a good job delivering it. It
<v Speaker 1>was a lot to memorize. There was a lot to
<v Speaker 1>unpack there, and there were parts of it that I liked.
<v Speaker 1>You know, as far as him being in Netflix ad break,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's true, that's basically how they were treating him.
<v Speaker 1>But he also, again, this promo wasn't some profound thing
<v Speaker 1>like people were making it out to be. When you know,
<v Speaker 1>the show was over on Tuesday, and he buried everybody
<v Speaker 1>there is being shit. He buried TNA as being shit,
<v Speaker 1>and he buried Evolve, all the Evolved guys for not
<v Speaker 1>being able to cut a promo he was being too meta. Yeah, Like,
<v Speaker 1>it's funny we get this promo in the same week
<v Speaker 1>that Triple H is unbusted open wishing the fans could
<v Speaker 1>just believe in KFA Again, why would I give a
<v Speaker 1>shit about someone's ability on the microphone? Like, just as
<v Speaker 1>a fan watching the show, I'm just watching the show
<v Speaker 1>and I'm watching things play out and I'm looking for action,
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not looking I'm not watching the show going. Boy,
<v Speaker 1>you know, I can't wait to see like the best
<v Speaker 1>ones on the microphone. I mean, obviously you have guys
<v Speaker 1>that are great on the microphone, and they could be
<v Speaker 1>very entertaining. I don't think somebody goes into a pro
<v Speaker 1>wrestling show though, like that's that's not the criteria by
<v Speaker 1>which they're judging the entire show. Let's see who has
<v Speaker 1>the best mic skills here on the show, he focused
<v Speaker 1>a lot on promo ability. This guy can't cut a promo.
<v Speaker 1>That guy can't cut a promo. This guy's a charisma vacuum.
<v Speaker 1>This isn't fucking LFG, dude, Like he's saying this on
<v Speaker 1>a show where people wrestle to settle their beats and
<v Speaker 1>win championships. They do it in the wrestling ring. They
<v Speaker 1>do it in wrestling matches, not promo contests. The promo itself,
<v Speaker 1>substance wise, really wasn't anything special. The reason this promo
<v Speaker 1>was important for Grayson Waller was because this was his
<v Speaker 1>Hail Mary. Now, there was a movie that came out
<v Speaker 1>earlier this year, Project Hail Mary. That's what this was
<v Speaker 1>for Grayson Waller. This was his Project Hail Mary. Because
<v Speaker 1>they have nothing for this guy. He was on the
<v Speaker 1>fast track to ninety days at home until he would
<v Speaker 1>be able to sign somewhere else. Maybe this promo helped
<v Speaker 1>save his career. That'll be up to Sean Michaels. I
<v Speaker 1>guess if they plan to use him down there from
<v Speaker 1>now on. But if he's making main roster money, they're
<v Speaker 1>not going to want him working developmental for very long.
<v Speaker 1>And if he gets brought back to Raw SmackDown, he's
<v Speaker 1>just going to be right back where he was before,
<v Speaker 1>unless he can show something in NXT to really open
<v Speaker 1>their eyes. And that's me being a cautious optimist, okay,
<v Speaker 1>because how many people were getting pushed and doing reasonably
<v Speaker 1>well in NXT and then they get called up to
<v Speaker 1>the main roster and it's like they forget the whole
<v Speaker 1>reason they called him up in the first place. So
<v Speaker 1>who's to say that doesn't happen to this guy even
<v Speaker 1>if he does win the NXT Championship at some point.
<v Speaker 1>But maybe maybe he can open up their eyes working
<v Speaker 1>down there. Maybe this promo is a start to doing
<v Speaker 1>just that. I hope for his sake it is. That's
<v Speaker 1>why that promo was such a big deal. It's not
<v Speaker 1>the promo of the year or anything like that, but
<v Speaker 1>it could be the promo that helps save that man's job.
<v Speaker 1>SummerSlam Night one was a good show that could have
<v Speaker 1>been great. I would go six out of ten or
<v Speaker 1>so maybe six and a half, and Night one was
<v Speaker 1>the stronger of the two on paper. Coming into this
<v Speaker 1>weekend tonight, it comes down really to Roman and Seth
<v Speaker 1>and Penta and Chad Gable. I need them to go
<v Speaker 1>out there and over deliver. That women's ladder match tonight
<v Speaker 1>is either going to be great or it's going to
<v Speaker 1>be a disaster. I just feel like there's no in between.
<v Speaker 1>Last night, though, they closed the show not with the
<v Speaker 1>WWE Championship match, which clearly irked CM Punk when he
<v Speaker 1>was asked about it on the post show, but he's
<v Speaker 1>a competitive guy. But they ended with hell to Sell
<v Speaker 1>and apparently this is something that brock Lesner himself pitched for.
<v Speaker 1>It was brock Lesner against Oba Femi and last year
<v Speaker 1>John Cena said that he did the job to Brock
<v Speaker 1>to get him heat it up before he ultimately rides
<v Speaker 1>off into the sunset in Minnesota. That's what he said.
<v Speaker 1>He knew something. He was referring to SummerSlam which was
<v Speaker 1>in Minneapolis, and watching that match and Brock putting him
<v Speaker 1>over and then giving him the big endorsement when the
<v Speaker 1>match was over, calling himself the past and calling Oba
<v Speaker 1>the future. It felt like in appropriate time for him
<v Speaker 1>to walk away, but WrestleMania felt like an appropriate time
<v Speaker 1>for him to walk away after he lost to Oba
<v Speaker 1>the first time and he came back anyway to do
<v Speaker 1>it two more times. Now, was that really necessary? No,
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't, but it was likely Brock's idea to blow
<v Speaker 1>it off inside Helen his cell. Helena Cell is the
<v Speaker 1>perfect match to blow off big feuds if you make
<v Speaker 1>use of the cell. And of course you have to
<v Speaker 1>have the right feud to just put something in hell
<v Speaker 1>and a cell when it doesn't really feel like it's
<v Speaker 1>worthy of the cell, that sucks, But you also want
<v Speaker 1>to make sure you make use of the structure, right.
<v Speaker 1>They call it the devil's playground for a reason. We
<v Speaker 1>saw that with See I'm Punk and Drew McIntyre. And
<v Speaker 1>not every match is going to look like that. It's
<v Speaker 1>not going to be that bloody and violent, violent by
<v Speaker 1>WWE standards, but that's the way that you use the
<v Speaker 1>cell to blow off a big feud. Having now seen
<v Speaker 1>the match last night, it did not need the cell.
<v Speaker 1>Now I know why they did it. They were lagged. Well,
<v Speaker 1>they did it for a few reasons. First of all,
<v Speaker 1>they were lagging in ticket sales. They had tickets to
<v Speaker 1>sell to what Michael Cole last night referred to as
<v Speaker 1>a capacity crowd. It was not a capacity crowd unless
<v Speaker 1>they have changed the definition of a capacity crowd. It
<v Speaker 1>was not a capacity crowd, but they had tickets to sell,
<v Speaker 1>and being able to advertise a Hell and a Cell
<v Speaker 1>match is going to potentially sell more tickets. And also
<v Speaker 1>Brock wanted to pay it forward to Oba the way
<v Speaker 1>that Undertaker did for him in his rookie year back
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and two, and then did it again
<v Speaker 1>in twenty fifteen, which is why Brock did the spot
<v Speaker 1>last night where he ripped up the canvas to expose
<v Speaker 1>the wooden boards underneath. He did that exact same spot
<v Speaker 1>in his second Helena Cell match with the Undertaker that
<v Speaker 1>they had back in twenty fifteen, only it was Brock
<v Speaker 1>taking a tombstone onto the exposed boards, except, as I recall,
<v Speaker 1>he didn't actually land on the boards. They said he did,
<v Speaker 1>but you know that's not really how it worked. And
<v Speaker 1>like Oba last night, Brock kicked out. Rock kicked out
<v Speaker 1>in that match, and he went on to win the match.
<v Speaker 1>And he was undefeated two and zero coming into last
<v Speaker 1>night against the Undertaker inside helen is Cell against anybody,
<v Speaker 1>because he only had two cell matches in his life
<v Speaker 1>before last night. So in their eyes, it's a feather
<v Speaker 1>in Oba's cap to be able to say that he's
<v Speaker 1>the only man to ever beat the unbeaten beast inside
<v Speaker 1>Helena Cell. And that sounds nice at all. But I
<v Speaker 1>don't really give a shit about these accolades so much
<v Speaker 1>as I want to see them go out there and
<v Speaker 1>have a really great match, a really great, memorable Helen
<v Speaker 1>of Cell match. Unfortunately, we did not get that last night.
<v Speaker 1>What we got was an eleven minute plunder match for
<v Speaker 1>our main event, which just happened to have a giant
<v Speaker 1>cage around it. The opening match would Live Morgan an
<v Speaker 1>Eosky went longer than the Helena Cell match did to
<v Speaker 1>close the show. It took longer to lower the cage
<v Speaker 1>and get both men down to the ring than it
<v Speaker 1>did for them to actually fight inside the cell. But
<v Speaker 1>the worst part was that, because again you can always
<v Speaker 1>have a great eleven minute match, the worst part was
<v Speaker 1>that it was just getting good. It felt like it
<v Speaker 1>was just about to shift. That of first gear when
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden it ended. It's like if you
<v Speaker 1>ride roller coasters, right, it'd be like slowly ascending to
<v Speaker 1>the top of the roller coaster, which like the scariest part,
<v Speaker 1>but like you're slowly climbing right to the top of
<v Speaker 1>the coaster and just before the big drop they turn
<v Speaker 1>it off and they tell you can climb down. Now
<v Speaker 1>take the stairs back to the ground. So, unfortunately, this
<v Speaker 1>was not one of the better cell matches. You know, now,
<v Speaker 1>maybe Brock just doesn't have it in him anymore to
<v Speaker 1>go beyond what we saw last night. Because since he
<v Speaker 1>came back last year, out of all the matches that
<v Speaker 1>he's had, and I'm not counting the Rumble, and I'm
<v Speaker 1>not counting you know war games where you had like
<v Speaker 1>eight other people, ten other people, whatever it was, I'm
<v Speaker 1>talking singles matches since he came back last year, last
<v Speaker 1>night was the longest and it still only went eleven minutes,
<v Speaker 1>and that was the main event of the show, which
<v Speaker 1>none of those other singles matches were. That may be
<v Speaker 1>all he has left to give, in which case I'm
<v Speaker 1>fine never seeing him in the ring again. He did
<v Speaker 1>what he needed to do. He put over the next
<v Speaker 1>big thing. Now he can ride off into the sunset,
<v Speaker 1>just like John Cena said, I don't believe he will.
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that that was brock Lesner's last match,
<v Speaker 1>but it should be. I thought the perfect ending was WrestleMania,
<v Speaker 1>but let last night be it. But in the end,
<v Speaker 1>the most important part of all of this, even though
<v Speaker 1>the match itself was disappointing, they put the new guy
<v Speaker 1>over in a big way. That's the positive takeaway from this.
<v Speaker 1>It was very clear from day one, because of his
<v Speaker 1>size and his look, that they were strapping the rocket
<v Speaker 1>to Obafemi. I wish I could say the same for
<v Speaker 1>some of the other young stars on the roster, and
<v Speaker 1>this became a topic of conversation after the show. When
<v Speaker 1>Triple H sat down for the post show scrum, I
<v Speaker 1>can't even remember the last one that he did. He
<v Speaker 1>was asked about a comment made recently by Damian Priest,
<v Speaker 1>which was on SmackDown. I believe it was written into
<v Speaker 1>the television show, so the whole thing came off. Here
<v Speaker 1>is k Fabe, Although obviously his response, you know what
<v Speaker 1>he said here was more than just Kfabe, but it
<v Speaker 1>kind of it was just weird because I know Priests
<v Speaker 1>made that on Smackedann and we supposed to believe that
<v Speaker 1>he went in there and he kind of worked the
<v Speaker 1>shoot comment in there, or were they just playing off
<v Speaker 1>real emotions. I'm sure they're playing off some very real
<v Speaker 1>emotions that people do have in the back. But it
<v Speaker 1>was when Priests said that he was sick and tired
<v Speaker 1>of seeing the same faces on top, you know, on
<v Speaker 1>the top of the card. So Triple H was asked
<v Speaker 1>about this. I'm going to read you his entire response
<v Speaker 1>here and then I will retort. He said, Look, I
<v Speaker 1>get that if you're the guy that wants to take
<v Speaker 1>the spot, it's frustrating when there's guys above you that
<v Speaker 1>have the spot. We're in a period of time where
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of top performers in top spots that
<v Speaker 1>over time have earned those spots and are selling tickets
<v Speaker 1>and are incredibly popular. So you really have to do something.
<v Speaker 1>The narrative of it's my turn, I've been here for
<v Speaker 1>a while. There are no turns. That's not how it works.
<v Speaker 1>You earn the spot. Believe me, if somebody is getting
<v Speaker 1>over more than somebody else, we move that person into
<v Speaker 1>the spot and move the other person down. Okay, sure,
<v Speaker 1>move the other person down, he says. But it's not
<v Speaker 1>just that. It's not just that they're getting the loud
<v Speaker 1>crowd reaction. Are they going to be good in the spot?
<v Speaker 1>Are they going to hold up there into the bargain?
<v Speaker 1>Are they going to screw up if we give it
<v Speaker 1>to them. Are they going to make a mistake that
<v Speaker 1>we regret. There's all those things factored in. And I
<v Speaker 1>love the fact that sometimes talents are like, well it's frustrating.
<v Speaker 1>Great that means work harder, get yourself there, figure it out,
<v Speaker 1>figure out the way, figure out how to get it done.
<v Speaker 1>I've seen a million talents succeed because of what they do,
<v Speaker 1>not because of storyline or creative They gave them the spot.
<v Speaker 1>Ninety nine percent of the time in this business, the
<v Speaker 1>person gets over and then gets the push. That's how
<v Speaker 1>it works, That's how it's supposed to work. Do you go,
<v Speaker 1>do you and then we follow it, because otherwise most
<v Speaker 1>of the time they will choke on it. If it's
<v Speaker 1>not what the fans believe in, big believer in. If
<v Speaker 1>you want the spot, go take it. Whenever anybody says,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I'm not in that spot, well,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, are you more over than Cody Roman,
<v Speaker 1>Punk Live EO. The people that are in that spot,
<v Speaker 1>get there, make those crowd reactions. Whatever you need to
<v Speaker 1>make it happen. That's what we're here to do. I
<v Speaker 1>love that mentality because I think it makes people work harder,
<v Speaker 1>and if they're not willing to work to get the spot,
<v Speaker 1>then you shouldn't have it anyway. Boy, I'm sure that
<v Speaker 1>those comments are going to go over like a fucking
<v Speaker 1>lead balloon in the back there. So yes, of course
<v Speaker 1>you need to find a way to get over and
<v Speaker 1>get the crowd invested in what you're doing. That goes
<v Speaker 1>without saying right. It can't just all be on the company.
<v Speaker 1>It's not like, hey, I can only bowl if there's
<v Speaker 1>bumpers on the side. I can't ride a bike unless
<v Speaker 1>I have training wheels. Right, you have to be able
<v Speaker 1>to do it on your own. I don't think anybody
<v Speaker 1>is denying that. I don't think there's any person who
<v Speaker 1>works in that locker room who has made it as
<v Speaker 1>far as they have to even be in w There
<v Speaker 1>is not a single person, I am sure, in that
<v Speaker 1>locker room who is so lazy to think, oh, well,
<v Speaker 1>I've made it. I'm here, I'm on TV. I don't
<v Speaker 1>have to do anything. I just want Creative to just
<v Speaker 1>sort of get me to where I need to be,
<v Speaker 1>especially in this day and age. If you're relying on
<v Speaker 1>Creative to get you to where you need to be,
<v Speaker 1>you're a fucking idiot. But I don't think there's anybody
<v Speaker 1>in the back who honestly feels that way, And I
<v Speaker 1>think they would be insulted frankly listening to him say
<v Speaker 1>it in that way. Whenever he opens his mouth and
<v Speaker 1>he talks about this stuff, it is just so disingenuous
<v Speaker 1>to think that he doesn't have anything to do with it,
<v Speaker 1>Like he's shifting it from Creative to them and saying, hey,
<v Speaker 1>it's on you, get over right. It can't be all
<v Speaker 1>on them. It's not the nature of what they do
<v Speaker 1>in this day and age. It's a fucking television show,
<v Speaker 1>and it's structured in that way, and they have an
<v Speaker 1>entire writing team and they have to pick and choose
<v Speaker 1>the people that they want you get over right, They'll
<v Speaker 1>do their part, But to insinuate that it's mostly just
<v Speaker 1>on them, you know, and Creative is just sort of
<v Speaker 1>in the background to guide them a little bit here
<v Speaker 1>and there, right because you listen to what he is saying,
<v Speaker 1>and that's how it comes off. Again. It is just
<v Speaker 1>so disingenuous because if you don't have the support of
<v Speaker 1>the office, or you don't have the support of the
<v Speaker 1>creative team, it doesn't matter how loud the crowds may be,
<v Speaker 1>you're dead in the water. Look at La Night over
<v Speaker 1>the past three years. Oba. I'm not saying Oba doesn't
<v Speaker 1>put in the work. I mean that dude is a beast,
<v Speaker 1>But you can't tell me that they did not have
<v Speaker 1>him pegged for the top spot before he even wrestled
<v Speaker 1>Cody on that Saturday Night's main event last year, before
<v Speaker 1>he even debuted officially on the main roster, they had
<v Speaker 1>stars in their eyes. They had found their next big superstar.
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot more than just oh great, go work harder.
<v Speaker 1>Then they absolutely have their favorites, and they absolutely have
<v Speaker 1>people who they don't like as much, and no matter
<v Speaker 1>what they do, they're just never gonna make it to
<v Speaker 1>a top spot. And then you have people, frankly who
<v Speaker 1>they're just not good enough to be in a top
<v Speaker 1>spot relative to the other talent they have. There is
<v Speaker 1>that too, and that's a hard thing for some fans
<v Speaker 1>to accept that there are favorites of there, there are
<v Speaker 1>people they like. There are nice guys and nice girls
<v Speaker 1>on the roster who maybe just aren't main event level
<v Speaker 1>material right there. I'm not naming names here, but I'm
<v Speaker 1>just saying that happens as well. Not everybody can be
<v Speaker 1>in a main event spot. There are only so many
<v Speaker 1>spots in the main event. That is true. But to
<v Speaker 1>hear him talk about it, it's like, well, if you're
<v Speaker 1>not over, well that's all on you. There are people
<v Speaker 1>on that roster who aren't over right now because they
<v Speaker 1>are given shit creative, or they're getting time cut from
<v Speaker 1>their matches, or they're not getting consistent television time at all.
<v Speaker 1>You can't get over if you're not on TV. I
<v Speaker 1>don't give a shit what you say. If you cannot
<v Speaker 1>get on television, if you're barely able to get visibility
<v Speaker 1>on the shows, you cannot get over. They don't really
<v Speaker 1>have many house shows anymore. You're not even working live
<v Speaker 1>events and getting over in front of those crowds. So
<v Speaker 1>if you're not getting on the show, you're basically absent.
<v Speaker 1>You're basically it's like you don't exist. It's like you're
<v Speaker 1>ghosted on these shows. You know. Jeff Cobb just did
<v Speaker 1>an interview I think it was with Denise Salcido. It
<v Speaker 1>was at wressel con whatever whatever, the big convention is
<v Speaker 1>in Minneapolis this weekend, and he's I believe a free
<v Speaker 1>men now is ninety days are up. Obviously, he was
<v Speaker 1>part of the MFTs and they didn't do anything with him,
<v Speaker 1>and he was there for like a year and they
<v Speaker 1>just didn't do anything with him. So he is doing
<v Speaker 1>this interview and he's talking about he seems like a
<v Speaker 1>really chill, very down to earth guy. He's a very
<v Speaker 1>good wrestler. Jeff Cobb is not somebody who was going
<v Speaker 1>to come to WWE realistically and be World Heavyweight Champion
<v Speaker 1>or WWE Champion. And that's not me saying he doesn't
<v Speaker 1>have the talent for it, but like, I don't know that.
<v Speaker 1>When he signed with them and debuted, even the most
<v Speaker 1>ardent of Jeff Cobb fans was thinking, oh man, this
<v Speaker 1>guy's the limit. He could be you know in main
<v Speaker 1>events with Cody Rhodes and all these different people. That
<v Speaker 1>probably was not going to happen, but they didn't do
<v Speaker 1>anything with him. He never had the opportunity to really
<v Speaker 1>show what he can do like bell to bell on
<v Speaker 1>a consistent basis, or even have the chance to develop
<v Speaker 1>any real personality on the shows. Maybe is a babyface
<v Speaker 1>instead of a heel, right, even though he came in
<v Speaker 1>as a heel. That was largely the problem with the MFTs,
<v Speaker 1>which became a chore to watch on SmackDown every week
<v Speaker 1>because there was no character development, you know, on a
<v Speaker 1>television show where they often talk about the importance of
<v Speaker 1>character and the importance of story, and the importance of charisma,
<v Speaker 1>and the import all of these elements that go into
<v Speaker 1>being successful in their business, in their industry, right in
<v Speaker 1>their company. He talked in this interview with Denise and again,
<v Speaker 1>and I'm paraphrasing here, where when they weren't doing anything
<v Speaker 1>with him, he was constantly like going to people in
<v Speaker 1>the Whether it was Triple H or just people around him,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but he was going to people and saying, hey, like,
<v Speaker 1>let me, let me talk like or let me if
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to be used in this way, let
<v Speaker 1>me at least wrestle put me on main event. Put
<v Speaker 1>me on main event, and let me go out there
<v Speaker 1>and just try to have some great matches, and the
<v Speaker 1>response that he kept getting was, you know, in so
<v Speaker 1>many words, and that's not really what we have in mind, right,
<v Speaker 1>It was something to that effect. The guy wasn't doing anything.
<v Speaker 1>Everybody knew it, and he was trying. He was going
<v Speaker 1>to people, and he says he was trying to get
<v Speaker 1>something at least even if it was on like the
<v Speaker 1>C Show, and they still wouldn't do anything with him,
<v Speaker 1>and then they cut him. So in an example like that,
<v Speaker 1>I would love for someone to bring that up to
<v Speaker 1>Triple H and say, you know, what's your response to that.
<v Speaker 1>What are talents supposed to do when maybe they're not
<v Speaker 1>being utilized and they're trying to make, you know, f
<v Speaker 1>efforts behind the scenes to contribute in some way where
<v Speaker 1>they think they can, and they're being turned down. What
<v Speaker 1>do you have to say about that? You know how
<v Speaker 1>frustrating that must be for someone like him, who's so
<v Speaker 1>low on the totem pole there and because of that
<v Speaker 1>can't get anybody to give two shits because they probably
<v Speaker 1>look at him and go, this guy's never going to
<v Speaker 1>draw us any money. Well, then why the fuck did
<v Speaker 1>you sign him in the first place. He's not a rookie. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>how long he's been around for He's a veteran of
<v Speaker 1>the wrestling industry. I think people know who he is.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's got this big body of work. You
<v Speaker 1>obviously signed him, you knew what you were getting. I
<v Speaker 1>don't understand this. I don't understand when they sign people
<v Speaker 1>or they bring people up from developmental whatever it may be.
<v Speaker 1>How do you not know? How do you not have
<v Speaker 1>a plan, you know, for what to do with these
<v Speaker 1>people and say, Okay, this guy or this girl may
<v Speaker 1>not be good at this. You know their inn ring
<v Speaker 1>is a little shaky, or maybe they're great in the ring,
<v Speaker 1>but their promos aren't great, or you know, everything is great,
<v Speaker 1>except we don't really see a whole lot from them
<v Speaker 1>personality wise, So maybe we need to work on that
<v Speaker 1>and get them more, you know, Mike Time, like, are
<v Speaker 1>they not doing this? Are they not evaluating each of
<v Speaker 1>these people on a talent by talent basis and saying, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>we called them up, we signed them, we're paying them. Well,
<v Speaker 1>now what's the best use of them? How do we
<v Speaker 1>give them the opportunity to go out there and get
<v Speaker 1>over You have to give them the opportunity to get over,
<v Speaker 1>because God forbid, if they decide to take the bull
<v Speaker 1>by the horns and do something that they're not told
<v Speaker 1>to do, they'll get heat for it. That's what I
<v Speaker 1>love about that. Well, like when I hear wrestlers talk
<v Speaker 1>about this and do shoot interviews and stuff, like they're
<v Speaker 1>not doing anything with me or they're not pushing me,
<v Speaker 1>and so I tried to take the incentive and then
<v Speaker 1>a promo maybe they went off script and they said something,
<v Speaker 1>or in a match they did something, and then they
<v Speaker 1>go back and they got heat for it. You and I
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to do that. You didn't clear it, and
<v Speaker 1>now they had They're in the doghouse. Now. It's like,
<v Speaker 1>how the fuck are you supposed to get over in
<v Speaker 1>a situation like that. It's it's got to be such
<v Speaker 1>a mind fuck for some of these people, Like I've
<v Speaker 1>used Carmelo Hayes as an example recently of all of this.
<v Speaker 1>Carmelo Hayes may never be WWE champion at this rate,
<v Speaker 1>but he was the United States champion, and that's where
<v Speaker 1>he really started to get over. It was through the
<v Speaker 1>work that he was doing in the ring, not even
<v Speaker 1>his promos. His matches were getting over he was starting
<v Speaker 1>to actually get reactions from the people, right, the reactions
<v Speaker 1>that Triple H talks about. And then after they took
<v Speaker 1>the title off of him, he vanished. He couldn't buy
<v Speaker 1>television time on most weeks, still can't. He was left
<v Speaker 1>off the WrestleMania card despite all that great work he
<v Speaker 1>put in. He was left off the Summer Slam card.
<v Speaker 1>Does that mean he didn't get himself over? Does that
<v Speaker 1>mean he didn't work as hard as Trick Williams or
<v Speaker 1>Baron Corbin who's been back for all of what three weeks?
<v Speaker 1>What does he have to do? Does he have to
<v Speaker 1>kiss someone's ass? Does he have to suck someone off
<v Speaker 1>in the office. I mean, maybe that's how it worked
<v Speaker 1>back in the eighties, but that shouldn't be how it
<v Speaker 1>works today. Maybe he can sleep with the boss's daughter.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's the fastest way to the top. It's the
<v Speaker 1>tired Vince McMahon brass ring cliche. You got to reach
<v Speaker 1>up and grab that brass ring, pal, Well, you know
<v Speaker 1>that's awfully hard to do sometimes when you hit your
<v Speaker 1>head on that glass ceiling. I'm sure those comments went
<v Speaker 1>over great with certain people in that locker room. Cmpunk
<v Speaker 1>retained the WWE Championship over Cody Rhodes. This was a
<v Speaker 1>match I was looking forward to for a really long time.
<v Speaker 1>I thought they did a pretty poor job though, coming
<v Speaker 1>into this show of really heating this up to the
<v Speaker 1>point where I was like, genuinely excited. The excitement level
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there for it in the way that it should
<v Speaker 1>have been for a match this big, right, first time ever,
<v Speaker 1>for all intents and purposes, first time ever. I thought
<v Speaker 1>it was a very boring start, plotting through much of
<v Speaker 1>the first half of this match, and not a lot
<v Speaker 1>of heat for a match this big. Finally it started
<v Speaker 1>to pick up. Obviously, you're gonna hear a lot about
<v Speaker 1>the awful moon salt that Punk tried. I mean, bless him.
<v Speaker 1>He tried something that he has tried very few times before.
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe once he tried it. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>if this was his homage to Terry Funk, you know,
<v Speaker 1>the crooked moon salt. The CM stands for a crooked
<v Speaker 1>moon salt. Haha. I don't know. He should never ever
<v Speaker 1>try that again. It was awful. I mean, he's the
<v Speaker 1>worst moon salt I've ever seen in a big title match,
<v Speaker 1>at least like this and he almost killed Cody on
<v Speaker 1>the landing, but they really picked things up towards the end.
<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of you know, countering out of
<v Speaker 1>each other's finish. There was a ref bump and so
<v Speaker 1>you knew fuckery was coming. And that fuckery turned out
<v Speaker 1>to be Randy orton his first appearance since Wrestlemany the
<v Speaker 1>last time we saw him. He lost to Cody and
<v Speaker 1>then Punk kicked him in the head. After the match,
<v Speaker 1>he ran in unbeknownst the pun Punk dropped Cody with
<v Speaker 1>an RKO and then slipped away, and Punk ends up
<v Speaker 1>getting the win. He retains the championship. I'm sure that
<v Speaker 1>will cause more tension between Punk and Cody, you know,
<v Speaker 1>did you know? Oh? I didn't know. I don't believe
<v Speaker 1>you right, that sort of thing. But now it looks
<v Speaker 1>like Cody and Randy are gonna reignite their few. They're
<v Speaker 1>going to go off together and I guess try to
<v Speaker 1>have the feud they wanted to have earlier this year
<v Speaker 1>before Pat McAfee got inserted into it. They killed most
<v Speaker 1>of my interest, honestly and even seeing it. But I
<v Speaker 1>hope they can reignite it and turn this into something
<v Speaker 1>that makes me want to see more of it because
<v Speaker 1>right now I'm not really as excited as I should
<v Speaker 1>be for that. But them feuding, non titled, you know,
<v Speaker 1>without the championship involved, is fine. Let them do their
<v Speaker 1>own thing. Punk in the meantime can go and he's
<v Speaker 1>got a plethora of new faces on that show, people
<v Speaker 1>that he's name dropped in recent weeks, whether it's Priest,
<v Speaker 1>whether it's Royce Keys, whether it's Trick Williams. Obviously we're
<v Speaker 1>going to have a Number one Contenders match tonight between
<v Speaker 1>sammy's Ain and Finn Balor, so coming out of that,
<v Speaker 1>there'll be a challenger for him, and let him work
<v Speaker 1>with those people for a while, you know, let him
<v Speaker 1>work with some newer people. But also there's one name
<v Speaker 1>who's not so new, but he is apparently, like Randy Orton,
<v Speaker 1>was rumored to be on his way back to TV
<v Speaker 1>very soon. I'm very happy to hear this. He's been
<v Speaker 1>gone now for over a year, well over a year,
<v Speaker 1>probably closer to a year and a half. But it
<v Speaker 1>was I think in July of last year that he
<v Speaker 1>had the next fusion surgery, and so here we are
<v Speaker 1>now in early August, and it sounds like Kevin Owens,
<v Speaker 1>who is in Minneapolis. He was doing signings. I've seen
<v Speaker 1>video of him.
<v Speaker 2>He's there.
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't mean he's going to be on the show tonight,
<v Speaker 1>but there is a possibility that maybe we'll see him
<v Speaker 1>on night too tonight. What he would be doing, I
<v Speaker 1>don't know, honestly, outside of maybe trying to help Sammy's
<v Speaker 1>Ain beat Finn Balor, I don't know what else he
<v Speaker 1>would be doing. If the plan is to keep them
<v Speaker 1>on SmackDown, which I hope it is, because I am
<v Speaker 1>all in on a CM Punk Kevin Owens feud, and
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's something they'd want to go to right away.
<v Speaker 1>Totally understandable. Maybe they want to bring Owens back, let
<v Speaker 1>him work with a couple of other people, you know,
<v Speaker 1>rack up some wins, build them up for a championship feud,
<v Speaker 1>and then do punkin Owens right the promos, the promos
<v Speaker 1>alone would would have me drawn to my television screen,
<v Speaker 1>So I definitely hope that's something that we can dive
<v Speaker 1>into in the next few months. It's just going to
<v Speaker 1>be great to have Owens back on the show. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>that show has just been so dead and lifeless for
<v Speaker 1>so long, and now you got Orton back, Orton and
<v Speaker 1>Cody will do their thing. You got Punk on the
<v Speaker 1>show now and he can defend against different people. You
<v Speaker 1>get Owens back. When Drew McIntyre comes back, what brand
<v Speaker 1>is he going to be on. There's hopeful signs to
<v Speaker 1>inject some new life into SmackDown and some big names too,
<v Speaker 1>because they don't you know, have a ton of big
<v Speaker 1>names on the show right now. But it can't just
<v Speaker 1>be big names in established names. You got to have
<v Speaker 1>a mix. You want to have a mix of the
<v Speaker 1>veteran talent and the younger talents, and so I feel
<v Speaker 1>like the tools are all there. They just have to
<v Speaker 1>figure out a way to put it together so that
<v Speaker 1>show is actually watchable on most weeks. But as far
<v Speaker 1>as the match with punkin Cody, not what I was
<v Speaker 1>hoping it would be. In the end, it turned out
<v Speaker 1>to be good enough. I thought it was a solid
<v Speaker 1>enough match, but it went almost thirty minutes and just
<v Speaker 1>a good chunk of it was just very boring and
<v Speaker 1>just not terribly interesting. You could tell by the reaction
<v Speaker 1>from the crowd, who was very quiet during the first
<v Speaker 1>half of that match. We had the debut, the ring
<v Speaker 1>debut of Nick Aldos in WWE. He finally got his moment,
<v Speaker 1>and they paid for Oasis. They paid for an Oasis
<v Speaker 1>track Morning Glory for him to come out to Triple
<v Speaker 1>Ah said that they got clearance a day or two
<v Speaker 1>I think before the show, and he let all know.
<v Speaker 1>He was so excited to let him know. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>good on them for actually shelling out the money. I'm
<v Speaker 1>sure that didn't come cheap. And I'm sure that's going
<v Speaker 1>to be edited off the I haven't checked, but I'm
<v Speaker 1>sure it's going to be edited off the replay. If
<v Speaker 1>it isn't already, at some point it will be ESPN Netflix.
<v Speaker 1>I doubt very seriously it'll it'll live on there. But
<v Speaker 1>for one night anyway, it was a very cool entrance.
<v Speaker 1>All this came out. Man, he looked to be in
<v Speaker 1>great shape. He has been waiting for this moment for
<v Speaker 1>a very long time, right, you never know when you're
<v Speaker 1>going to get the call, and this one came on
<v Speaker 1>very short notice. And he was in there and he
<v Speaker 1>never looked out of place. He didn't get overly guest
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that to where it looked like Gunther
<v Speaker 1>was carrying him towards the end, even though he has
<v Speaker 1>a wrestled in three years. It was like no time
<v Speaker 1>at all had gone by, and they had a very
<v Speaker 1>basic match. But I enjoyed it. I thought it was
<v Speaker 1>a good wrestling match. I loved how into it the
<v Speaker 1>crowd was, you know, for a guy in all this
<v Speaker 1>who yes, he's been on TV for a few years now,
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of these people have probably never even
<v Speaker 1>seen him wrestle before. You have to imagine that there's
<v Speaker 1>a very big chunk of the WWE audience that doesn't
<v Speaker 1>know Nick All this as the NWA World's Heavyweight Champion.
<v Speaker 1>They don't know his brutus magnus days, you know in TNA,
<v Speaker 1>So this is their first exposure to him in the ring,
<v Speaker 1>and they were solidly behind him, you know, and all
<v Speaker 1>of the submission attempts and when he was trapped in
<v Speaker 1>the sleeper and they wanted desperately to see him fight
<v Speaker 1>out of it. When he applied the you know, the
<v Speaker 1>Texas clover leaf, or I guess it wasn't the Texas
<v Speaker 1>clover leaf, but what they say it was the King's Uh.
<v Speaker 1>I forgot what he calls it. I know it's named
<v Speaker 1>after the town I think he was born in in
<v Speaker 1>the UK. The Kings Kingston maybe Kingston clover Leaf. But
<v Speaker 1>when he locked it on, the people popped huge for it.
<v Speaker 1>His wife Mickey James was there in the front row
<v Speaker 1>with their son Donovan like this this was this was
<v Speaker 1>well done right basic as it was. They didn't you know,
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't overbooked. There was no interference, there was no
<v Speaker 1>you know, cheating involved, There was no special stipulation, there
<v Speaker 1>was no plunder. There were no slim gym tables, there
<v Speaker 1>were no kendo sticks. They had a basic professional wrestling
<v Speaker 1>match and it worked and the right guy went over.
<v Speaker 1>Because Nick All, this is not suddenly going to be
<v Speaker 1>a full time performer. I didn't really expect him to be,
<v Speaker 1>so if this was the only time we ever see
<v Speaker 1>him in the ring, I'm glad for him that he
<v Speaker 1>was able to get that moment against someone like Gunther
<v Speaker 1>in a big, you know show like SummerSlam. They had
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven thousand people there. Whatever. It was good for
<v Speaker 1>him because I know he's been waiting a very long
<v Speaker 1>time for that. Now when the show is over, they
<v Speaker 1>shot a segment in the back where he handed Triple
<v Speaker 1>h his letter of resignation as the SmackDown General manager.
<v Speaker 1>And now he had been relieved temporarily of his duties.
<v Speaker 1>But I guess the idea is that, you know, well,
<v Speaker 1>I knew what I was getting into, and I was
<v Speaker 1>the GM, and I had to surrender those duties to
<v Speaker 1>fight Gunther because he just got under my skin, you know,
<v Speaker 1>he just got to me. And I guess the idea is,
<v Speaker 1>maybe he thinks that Triple H doesn't think he can
<v Speaker 1>do the job fairly anymore. So it's been my great
<v Speaker 1>honor and privilege to serve as the GM. And Triple
<v Speaker 1>H took the letter and he put him over. He
<v Speaker 1>thanked him and said, you've done a tremendous job over
<v Speaker 1>these last three years, and as far as this letter
<v Speaker 1>is concerned, and he ripped it up and he said,
<v Speaker 1>you're officially reinstated as the GM of SmackDown. So all
<v Speaker 1>this is back to being the GM. And if we
<v Speaker 1>do see him in the ring again at some point,
<v Speaker 1>my guess is it's maybe a cameo in the rumble
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. But for all intents and purposes,
<v Speaker 1>I think his in ring career is over. So long
<v Speaker 1>as he remains in WWE, I still think the GM
<v Speaker 1>role is the best role for him, gets him on
<v Speaker 1>the show every single week. He's in the middle of everything.
<v Speaker 1>Look at look at how much Adam Pierce is all
<v Speaker 1>over the television show every week. What a great gig,
<v Speaker 1>gets more television time than most of the talent does,
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to take any bumps. It's great. Then we
<v Speaker 1>had the tail of two trios matches. We had the
<v Speaker 1>men's trios match six man tag. It was La Night
<v Speaker 1>Solo Sokoa and Royce Keys against Jacob Fatu and the
<v Speaker 1>usos Solo Sakoa man I said this last night. I
<v Speaker 1>feel vindicated. I've been saying this for how long now,
<v Speaker 1>probably close to a year, that this man has a
<v Speaker 1>great babyface run buried within him. If they stopped this
<v Speaker 1>friggin stoic mob boss gimmick that he's doing leading the MFTs,
<v Speaker 1>it's not the right role for him. He was completely miscast.
<v Speaker 1>You are completely ignoring all of the elements that will
<v Speaker 1>really help get him over where he can be more
<v Speaker 1>like himself, he can be more genuine, he can show
<v Speaker 1>more of his personality. And now he's getting the chance
<v Speaker 1>to do that. And wouldn't you know he's starting to
<v Speaker 1>get over that moment in the match where he decided
<v Speaker 1>to run it back and have them played Jay's music
<v Speaker 1>so he can eat and they panned out and everybody
<v Speaker 1>was yeating along with him, and Jay had this look
<v Speaker 1>on his face like he had this look on his
<v Speaker 1>face like somebody just ripped a frigging fart in the
<v Speaker 1>middle of the match. That was the best part of
<v Speaker 1>the entire match. That and there was this crazy spot
<v Speaker 1>where Royce Keys gave Fatu, who came charging in outside
<v Speaker 1>by the timekeeper's barricade. He caught him and he gave
<v Speaker 1>him a power slam over the barricade onto the concrete
<v Speaker 1>and he went over with him and they both just
<v Speaker 1>took this hillacious bump. I actually had a lot of
<v Speaker 1>fun with this match. I didn't know what to expect.
<v Speaker 1>It's a six man tag, I mean, it felt like
<v Speaker 1>a television match coming into this, but I thought that
<v Speaker 1>everybody had a chance to shine. There were some fun
<v Speaker 1>moments in there, and in the end they had freaking
<v Speaker 1>La Night hit his finish and Pinjeu, So you can't
<v Speaker 1>ask for anything better than that. Now. Wrestle Votes Radio
<v Speaker 1>on fight Ful Select had a report on Thursday that
<v Speaker 1>said Solo Socoa was only supposed to be a babyface
<v Speaker 1>on a short term basis. However, there is said to
<v Speaker 1>be speculation within WWE that those plans could be reconsidered
<v Speaker 1>because of how well he has been received in the role,
<v Speaker 1>and the report notes that one talent describes Socoa as
<v Speaker 1>one of the funniest superstars behind the scenes. The source
<v Speaker 1>added that they were thrilled that Solo is getting a
<v Speaker 1>chance to show off his personality. Yeah, it only took
<v Speaker 1>a few years, so they were thinking about turning him
<v Speaker 1>heel again coming out of this match, possibly even rejoining
<v Speaker 1>the bloodline. That's that's what I read into that. The
<v Speaker 1>fact that that was even a thought in their head
<v Speaker 1>is scary. Let's see Triple H put his money where
<v Speaker 1>his mouth is now, all right, go get yourself over,
<v Speaker 1>that's what he says, right, go get yourself over. Well,
<v Speaker 1>guess what Solo Socoa is getting himself over as a babyface.
<v Speaker 1>Let's see what they do. Do they squander it, do
<v Speaker 1>they ruin it and turn him back, or do they
<v Speaker 1>let him do his thing and see how far he
<v Speaker 1>can go? Because this is a classic case of it.
<v Speaker 1>The other Trios match involved the women, and this was
<v Speaker 1>not good. This was the opposite of what this match was,
<v Speaker 1>and part of it was that Bribella got injured. Although
<v Speaker 1>even if Bribella didn't get injured, I hardly think this
<v Speaker 1>match was going to light the world on fire. But
<v Speaker 1>her getting hurt just made things worse. And it was
<v Speaker 1>pretty early in the match too. It looked like it
<v Speaker 1>happened on a cannon ball up against the ring steps
<v Speaker 1>that jac Jane gave her and she immediately clutched her
<v Speaker 1>right shoulder. It looked like maybe it was dislocated or separated.
<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe it was a clavigal potentially, but she
<v Speaker 1>kept holding that shoulder for the rest of the match.
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe they didn't take her out of the match.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you got six women out there, She's got
<v Speaker 1>two partners. Why did she have to remain in this match?
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. Even if she was telling the
<v Speaker 1>referee I'm okay, I'm okay, she clearly was not okay
<v Speaker 1>and it and it at least partially ruined the rest
<v Speaker 1>of the match because she couldn't do any real spots.
<v Speaker 1>She couldn't do anything. She was like a armed woman
<v Speaker 1>out there. So this match just was a mess, and
<v Speaker 1>Fatal Influence won at least, I mean that was that
<v Speaker 1>was the right outcome. When the match was over, though
<v Speaker 1>the Bella is mostly Nicki attacked Page because Page took
<v Speaker 1>the losing fall in the match, and because Bree couldn't
<v Speaker 1>do anything. It was mostly just Nicki beating her up
<v Speaker 1>and giving her a rack attack, and so the Bellas
<v Speaker 1>have I guess gone, heel, I look, this whole thing
<v Speaker 1>is a fucking mess. Okay, because Nicki Bella was supposed
<v Speaker 1>to be at WrestleMania. Nicki Bella and her sister have
<v Speaker 1>never been the women's tag team champions before. The reason
<v Speaker 1>they even came back was because they wanted to win
<v Speaker 1>the women's tag team titles at least once. They were
<v Speaker 1>going to have that opportunity at WrestleMania, not a doubt
<v Speaker 1>in my mind. They were going to win those belts
<v Speaker 1>and then on SmackDown a week or two or whatever
<v Speaker 1>it was before maybe it was maybe it was longer
<v Speaker 1>than that. But before WrestleMania, Nicki got hurt. She hurt
<v Speaker 1>her ankle and so she couldn't wrestle, so they brought
<v Speaker 1>in Page in that spot. It was actually Nicki in
<v Speaker 1>storyline who made the phone call to bring in page,
<v Speaker 1>which was funny to me last night when Nicki was saying, like,
<v Speaker 1>you know, don't take my spot. You don't take my spot.
<v Speaker 1>You gave her your spot. The fuck are you talking about?
<v Speaker 1>Be mad at yourself? But like they had this plan,
<v Speaker 1>Nicki got hurt, the sisters were not able to win
<v Speaker 1>the belts together. Nicki finally just last week made her return.
<v Speaker 1>She finally got cleared. She came back from the injury.
<v Speaker 1>And now it looks like Brie is hurt and Brie
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be out probably for a while. We don't
<v Speaker 1>know the severity of it yet. Triple H even said
<v Speaker 1>at the scrum last night that it looks bad. Like
<v Speaker 1>he was waiting on results or an MRI or whatever
<v Speaker 1>and to get a definitive diagnosis. But he's hoping it
<v Speaker 1>didn't look as bad as it looked to them. So
<v Speaker 1>if they're saying it looked bad, it's probably bad. And
<v Speaker 1>so she's gonna go away for a while. And now regardless,
<v Speaker 1>and now Nicki just came back and she's got no
<v Speaker 1>partner because they just turned on Page. So they can't
<v Speaker 1>put like Nikki with Page, what you gonna do, You're
<v Speaker 1>gonna show up on SmackDown and be like, oh my bad,
<v Speaker 1>my bad. So like one Bella gets hurt, comes back,
<v Speaker 1>the other Bella gets hurt, and now she's probably out,
<v Speaker 1>Like the whole thing is a fucking mess. And then
<v Speaker 1>we have liv Morgan retaining her Women's World Championship, her
<v Speaker 1>first title defense in over one hundred days, defended it
<v Speaker 1>successfully over the Queen of the Ring, Eo Sky. If
<v Speaker 1>I'm being totally honest with you looking back at it
<v Speaker 1>now as I sit here and reflect on night one,
<v Speaker 1>this was the match of the night. This right here
<v Speaker 1>was the match of Night one. They had a very
<v Speaker 1>good opener. I thought the closing sequence was very good.
<v Speaker 1>I was hoping EO would pick up the win. If
<v Speaker 1>they're actually gonna do something with Live, I have no
<v Speaker 1>issue with her retaining, because I mean, one hundred plus
<v Speaker 1>days of her being a manager for the judgment day
<v Speaker 1>and not doing much of anything else gets kind of
<v Speaker 1>time after a while. But maybe we'll see Stephanie Vicaire
<v Speaker 1>pop up on Raw Monday night and they can get
<v Speaker 1>back to that. I don't know. It seems to me
<v Speaker 1>like the idea here because I thought they were setting
<v Speaker 1>up for Ria and Eo at Crown Jewel, and maybe
<v Speaker 1>the idea was they want Ria and Live, they want
<v Speaker 1>to go back to that again and that's the Crown
<v Speaker 1>Jewel match, and they wanted to keep the championship on
<v Speaker 1>her for that reason. I don't know, I don't really
<v Speaker 1>need to see that again, but I thought this was
<v Speaker 1>the best thing on the entire show. Bell to Belle.
<v Speaker 1>You know, they got thirteen minutes, so they got five
<v Speaker 1>or six minutes more than they gave Live for her
<v Speaker 1>WrestleMania match. That scene and unreal by the way, where
<v Speaker 1>she comes back after her match with Stephanie, which was
<v Speaker 1>like six minutes, and she comes to the back and
<v Speaker 1>Triple H is like gassing her up, Like, oh that
<v Speaker 1>was great. It was perfect. It was like the best
<v Speaker 1>thing ever. And all Live is concerned about was like,
<v Speaker 1>did did we make good time? Because they obviously got
<v Speaker 1>their time cut and wanted to make sure like it
<v Speaker 1>worked out okay, like you were able to like, do
<v Speaker 1>you know whatever else he needed to do because we
<v Speaker 1>we went shorter. Like that's basically what she was saying.
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, man, it's like, okay, I guess the
<v Speaker 1>mentality is it's just different, man, It's just different. If
<v Speaker 1>they were building me up for a big WrestleMania match,
<v Speaker 1>this was gonna be my moment, right And I'm in
<v Speaker 1>one of the feature matches on the show, like a
<v Speaker 1>women's world champion. Obviously I wouldn't be in the Women's
<v Speaker 1>World Championship match. That'd be weird. But like I was
<v Speaker 1>in the World Championship match on that show and they
<v Speaker 1>came to me and said, hey, you only have six minutes.
<v Speaker 1>Obviously I would want to go out there and make
<v Speaker 1>the most of those six minutes. I would try to
<v Speaker 1>make those six minutes the best that I could possibly
<v Speaker 1>make it. But I wouldn't be very happy about it.
<v Speaker 1>So I wonder how she really felt about it. Obviously
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't going to cuss out Triple H and say
<v Speaker 1>it to his face. But I felt more sad for
<v Speaker 1>her than anything else watching that her and Stephanie. Tonight
<v Speaker 1>is night two again. I'll be live on YouTube for
<v Speaker 1>the post show when the show is over, probably around
<v Speaker 1>the same time. I mean, that show last night was
<v Speaker 1>very economical. I think it was three hours in and out. Look,
<v Speaker 1>I'm not complaining. It would have been nice to get
<v Speaker 1>a little more action on the show than we did.
<v Speaker 1>Because we have so many. I mean, the breaks in
<v Speaker 1>between the matches are just so fucking long that I
<v Speaker 1>wish we had a little more action, not like four
<v Speaker 1>hours worth, but like it would have been nice to
<v Speaker 1>have another match when we have six. Would have been
<v Speaker 1>nice to squeeze another match in there, but I guess
<v Speaker 1>that would squeeze into their ad times, so we can't
<v Speaker 1>have that. But tonight is night too. We have the
<v Speaker 1>Intercontinental Championship on the line, Chad Gable challenging Penta in
<v Speaker 1>Gable's hometown of Minneapolis. There should be a win for Gable.
<v Speaker 1>This is going to be his first championship singles title
<v Speaker 1>in WWE. Anything else is unacceptable. Dan Housen, speaking of unacceptable,
<v Speaker 1>is going to be in a human monies on a
<v Speaker 1>poll match. Whoever came up with the concept for this
<v Speaker 1>match should be beaten over the head with a pole.
<v Speaker 1>That'll be against Dominic Mysterio, which should be a win
<v Speaker 1>for dom Trick Williams defends the United States Championship against
<v Speaker 1>Baron Corbin. I'm maybe going out on a limb here,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I'm going with Corbin to win
<v Speaker 1>the title. Sammy's a and Finn Baller number one contenders
<v Speaker 1>match for the WWE Championship. I'm picking Baller to win. Now.
<v Speaker 1>I suppose if Kevin Owens was to return tonight, he
<v Speaker 1>might help Sammy win and that would be kind of cool,
<v Speaker 1>I guess, But barring any Owens interference, I'm picking Baller
<v Speaker 1>to win. Then we have the Interim Women's Championship ladder
<v Speaker 1>match Charlotte Flair, Jade car Gill, Tiffany Stratton, Chelsea Green
<v Speaker 1>and Lash Legend, who had a two minute match with
<v Speaker 1>Julia on SmackDown on Friday night. Lash I figured was
<v Speaker 1>gonna be the one to qualify. I'm picking Lash to win.
<v Speaker 1>I just think that they might look at this lineup
<v Speaker 1>here and go, hey, whoever's gon to win the interim
<v Speaker 1>title is only going to have it on a very
<v Speaker 1>interim basis because Rhea is probably going to be back
<v Speaker 1>very soon, and so why go ahead and put it
<v Speaker 1>on Charlotte. You know, for example, if she's only going
<v Speaker 1>to have it for a few weeks and we could
<v Speaker 1>save that match for later on, let's give some rub
<v Speaker 1>to Lash, even if it's only for a month or whatever. Like.
<v Speaker 1>I could see that being the mentality here, and it
<v Speaker 1>really doesn't make any sense to me to put it
<v Speaker 1>on Tiffany because she's already got the US title. Chelsea,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, do you honestly expect that. I'm
<v Speaker 1>thinking it's Lash or it's Jade, you know, barring barring
<v Speaker 1>a Lash win. Here the Julia thing. Look, I said
<v Speaker 1>my piece on Friday that made me so mad just
<v Speaker 1>just watching that whole thing. It's very clear Julia is
<v Speaker 1>done in this company. It's over. The Julia experiment on
<v Speaker 1>the main roster is over, dead and buried. And I
<v Speaker 1>said this on Friday, that would it not have made
<v Speaker 1>more sense to put Blake Monroe in that spot against
<v Speaker 1>Julia in that qualifying match on Friday and have Blake
<v Speaker 1>qualify instead of Lash unless Lash is gonna win, right,
<v Speaker 1>that's the whole thing. If I think Lash is gonna win,
<v Speaker 1>that's probably why she's in the match. But I'm just saying,
<v Speaker 1>like it would have made more sense to me as
<v Speaker 1>someone who has watched the television and saw many weeks
<v Speaker 1>ago Blake Monroe attacked Julia. Actually she's attacked Julia more
<v Speaker 1>than once on this show. Do that match, have Blake win,
<v Speaker 1>go to the ladder match, and then yeah, she's not
<v Speaker 1>gonna win necessarily, but like Tiffany, Stratton is in there,
<v Speaker 1>and we've seen some segments with her in Tiffany where
<v Speaker 1>Blake has been eyeballing the US title, and god knows
<v Speaker 1>that Tiffany could use some challengers for the United States Championship.
<v Speaker 1>But you could do something in the ladder match that
<v Speaker 1>allows you to split off from that into a feud
<v Speaker 1>with Tiffany and with Blake for the US title. But
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's making too much sense. I know, I got
<v Speaker 1>to stop doing that. I got to stop doing that.
<v Speaker 1>And then the World Heavyweight Championship on the line. In
<v Speaker 1>the main event, Roman Reigns defends against Seth Rollins. Did
<v Speaker 1>you know that these two were members of the Shield?
<v Speaker 1>You might not be aware of that, but if you've
<v Speaker 1>watched the television over the last few weeks, they've made
<v Speaker 1>that abundantly clear that these two were once part of
<v Speaker 1>this thing called the Shield. It was a tag team
<v Speaker 1>back in the day, just the two of them. Roman
<v Speaker 1>Reigns is gonna win. I don't know if they're gonna
<v Speaker 1>have some sort of convoluted finish here. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>if it's just going to be a straight up you know,
<v Speaker 1>really good wrestling match, and Roman beats them clean and finally,
<v Speaker 1>you know, exercises the demons because he's never been able
<v Speaker 1>to beat Balor in like a major match one on one,
<v Speaker 1>and so he'll finally be able to do it, and
<v Speaker 1>then he'll you know, do the usual our farming and
<v Speaker 1>he'll point to the skies and that's how it goes
<v Speaker 1>off the air. I don't know. I don't know. All
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you is that I think Roman Rains
<v Speaker 1>is going to retain and they're not ready to take
<v Speaker 1>that championship off of him just yet. And that is
<v Speaker 1>night too of SummerSlam coming up in just a few hours.
<v Speaker 1>And because of that, and because I want to try
<v Speaker 1>to get this show out as quickly as possible, and
<v Speaker 1>I still got a dark side of the Ring review
<v Speaker 1>here to get into. I did have a bunch of
<v Speaker 1>like notes here and stuff I wanted to get into.
<v Speaker 1>As far as AW is concerned, I think what I'm
<v Speaker 1>gonna do. I'm going to hold off on that until Tuesday,
<v Speaker 1>and so as part of everything else that I'll do
<v Speaker 1>on the Uncrowned Wrestling Show, we'll get into all of
<v Speaker 1>the AW stuff from this past week. The Redemption fallout
<v Speaker 1>of the way. Things are looking for Grand Slam Mexico
<v Speaker 1>this Wednesday, which is looking pretty stacked, I gotta say,
<v Speaker 1>but I'll save that for the Tuesday show. Dark Side
<v Speaker 1>of the Ring this week was dedicated to the story
<v Speaker 1>of Ray Trailer, better known to wrestling fans as the
<v Speaker 1>Big boss Man, one of those characters from my childhood
<v Speaker 1>that still stands out to this day. The Corrections Officer
<v Speaker 1>from Cobb County, Georgia had one of the catchier theme
<v Speaker 1>songs too, That was a Gym Heart and JJ maguire production.
<v Speaker 1>This episode was very similar to the John Tenta episode
<v Speaker 1>from I know it was the last season or a
<v Speaker 1>couple of seasons ago, but they did one on Earthquake,
<v Speaker 1>who was also a very colorful character from that Golden era,
<v Speaker 1>someone who worked with the Hulk Hogan and was always
<v Speaker 1>in the mix in some way. But similar to in
<v Speaker 1>that the boss Man comes off as generally a very
<v Speaker 1>good dude, decent human being who left this earth far
<v Speaker 1>too soon. Tenta was only forty two when he died.
<v Speaker 1>Boss Man was forty one. Two guys who looked older
<v Speaker 1>than they really were. I mean, think about this. Boss
<v Speaker 1>Man was only twenty six years old when he worked
<v Speaker 1>with Hogan, But there was nothing dark or sinister about him.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he didn't treat people badly. He was never
<v Speaker 1>accused of anything heinous. He wasn't known to be a
<v Speaker 1>big party guy on the road. Everybody loved working with him.
<v Speaker 1>Very funny guy behind the scenes, very affable, and they
<v Speaker 1>both loved their families, and that came across in both
<v Speaker 1>of their episodes. You know, we see a lot of
<v Speaker 1>sad stories on these Dark Side of the Ring episodes,
<v Speaker 1>but it's been a while since one of them got
<v Speaker 1>to me like this one. Did you know when they
<v Speaker 1>got into the discussion of how he died in the
<v Speaker 1>day he died, I'm not going to lie, you know,
<v Speaker 1>I cried. That got me, you know, listening to his
<v Speaker 1>daughter talk about doing chess compressions and giving him mouth
<v Speaker 1>to mouth to try to save him. That just that
<v Speaker 1>broke me. And it's depressing to think of just how
<v Speaker 1>many wrestlers went out that way, you know, dead of
<v Speaker 1>a heart attack at such an early age, and we
<v Speaker 1>know why that is in a lot of cases. Although
<v Speaker 1>they did mention here that heart problems did run in
<v Speaker 1>boss Man's family, but that doesn't make it any less sad.
<v Speaker 1>You know, I find myself sometimes as we all get older,
<v Speaker 1>and as I get older, and with each passing year
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not even that old, I realize, like, holy shit,
<v Speaker 1>I'm now older than so and so and they died.
<v Speaker 1>The fact that, like Owen Hart, for example, for all
<v Speaker 1>the years I watched him on TV, the fact that
<v Speaker 1>Owen was only thirty four years old when he died,
<v Speaker 1>it just it still blows me away, and I hate it.
<v Speaker 1>I just hate all the guys and gals, but mostly
<v Speaker 1>guys that are in the grave right now with kids
<v Speaker 1>out there that barely remember them because they were so
<v Speaker 1>young when they died. The wrestling business has had a
<v Speaker 1>very toxic relationship with addiction because the nature of what
<v Speaker 1>they do and what they put their bodies through. The
<v Speaker 1>human body was not built to take bumps. Human beings
<v Speaker 1>are not meant to be slammed over and over again
<v Speaker 1>for ten years straight or fifteen years, twenty years straight.
<v Speaker 1>But that was only part of the episode. I enjoyed it. Overall.
<v Speaker 1>They were able to get boss Man's wife Angela and
<v Speaker 1>his daughter Lacey to sit down for this. Jim Cornett
<v Speaker 1>has interviewed he managed Boss Men when he was Big
<v Speaker 1>Bubba Rogers and Bubba was Cornett's bodyguard during their time
<v Speaker 1>in Jim Crockett Promotions. Whenever Cornett gets broken up on
<v Speaker 1>these shows, like he did during the Owen Hard episode,
<v Speaker 1>you know, he really liked the person and he really
<v Speaker 1>gets broken up, you know. Talking about Bubba, he even
<v Speaker 1>has to get up at one point a walk away
<v Speaker 1>for a little bit so that he doesn't turn into
<v Speaker 1>a blubbering mess on camera. They talked to al Snow,
<v Speaker 1>who had a very memorable feud with boss Man in
<v Speaker 1>his second stint with the company in the Attitude era
<v Speaker 1>Gerald Briscoe and Terry Runnolds, which felt kind of random,
<v Speaker 1>but she actually was very good friends with boss Man.
<v Speaker 1>She has said in the past that he even gave
<v Speaker 1>her away at her wedding when she got remarried in
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and two, so they were pretty close.
<v Speaker 2>Ye.
<v Speaker 1>Boss Man is someone who his main run in the
<v Speaker 1>business was actually very brief. You know. After coming to
<v Speaker 1>the WWF, he feuded with Hulk Hogan, which was the
<v Speaker 1>peak of his career, and then he settled in as
<v Speaker 1>like a mid to upper mid card babyface and he
<v Speaker 1>never achieved that same level of stardom again, not until
<v Speaker 1>he came back in ninety eight. Initially they actually made
<v Speaker 1>him part of the Steve Austin Vince McMahon storyline, but
<v Speaker 1>that didn't last very long. But the stuff he did
<v Speaker 1>do was very memorable. So as brief as his run
<v Speaker 1>on top was, it was very memorable. He had a
<v Speaker 1>job as an actual corrections officer in Cobb County before
<v Speaker 1>getting into wrestling, which is where the gimmick came from.
<v Speaker 1>It didn't pay well, though he ended up getting into wrestling.
<v Speaker 1>He caught the eye of Dusty Rhodes. Even though he
<v Speaker 1>never had any formal training, He had two training sessions
<v Speaker 1>in the span of two weeks. That was it. He
<v Speaker 1>was a big guy, much bigger back then than he
<v Speaker 1>was when he turned babyface. So he ended up on
<v Speaker 1>TV pretty quick. He was wrestling squash matches and he
<v Speaker 1>got vaulted pretty quickly into a feud with Dusty, which
<v Speaker 1>did big business pretty much everywhere they went with it. It
<v Speaker 1>was the same thing with Hogan, you know, many years later.
<v Speaker 1>They did huge business with the house show program that
<v Speaker 1>they worked. They did cover the infamous Starcade scaffold match
<v Speaker 1>from the night of the Skywalkers between the Road Warriors
<v Speaker 1>and the Midnight Express. This is the match where Jim
<v Speaker 1>Cornett was dangling off the edge of the scaffold and
<v Speaker 1>Bubba had one job he had one that night catch
<v Speaker 1>him on the way down. That they glossed over it
<v Speaker 1>pretty quick. They didn't get too far into the weeds
<v Speaker 1>on this. But Road Warrior Hawk actually wrestled that match
<v Speaker 1>with a broken leg. I say wrestled, I mean, but
<v Speaker 1>there's not much wrestling going on in a scaffold match.
<v Speaker 1>I've never actually seen a scaffold match that I enjoyed.
<v Speaker 1>I think they suck, and there's a reason that you
<v Speaker 1>don't see them anymore. Everyone is so tentedive, everyone is
<v Speaker 1>so terrified to even be up there. It looks like
<v Speaker 1>they're moving in slow motion, especially back then. You know,
<v Speaker 1>back then, generally speaking, the guys were so much bigger.
<v Speaker 1>They were fucking jacked up, And you got these big,
<v Speaker 1>three hundred pounds jacked up dudes climbing twelve to fifteen
<v Speaker 1>feet in the air on this little narrow scaffold. Yeah'll
<v Speaker 1>probably seeing their lives flash before their eyes. I wouldn't
<v Speaker 1>want to go up there. But the original idea that
<v Speaker 1>Dusty pitched was that after the match, Cornett would throw
<v Speaker 1>his legs up and he would fall backwards like a cheerleader,
<v Speaker 1>and the midnights in Bubba would be down low to
<v Speaker 1>catch him. But then Cornett saw how high the scaffold was,
<v Speaker 1>and he said he would end up killing all three
<v Speaker 1>of them. So he came up with the idea of
<v Speaker 1>just dropping down on his stomach on the scaffold and
<v Speaker 1>very slowly rolling over the edge, and he would dangle
<v Speaker 1>there for a little bit and at just the right
<v Speaker 1>moment he would let go and Bubba would catch him.
<v Speaker 1>Bubba did not catch him. He was a few feet
<v Speaker 1>off and Cornet fell straight down. He blew out both
<v Speaker 1>his knees, including his ACL, and Bubba told him, you know, Jimmy,
<v Speaker 1>you fell so fast, Jimmy, you fell so fast. I
<v Speaker 1>just I couldn't catch you. Cornett has said that not
<v Speaker 1>only did he blow out his ACL and destroy his miniscus,
<v Speaker 1>he tore all the ligaments in the knee that keep
<v Speaker 1>it attached to the femur and the tibia, and he
<v Speaker 1>never had the knee fixed, and he had it scoped,
<v Speaker 1>but he never had it fixed because it would have
<v Speaker 1>kept him off the road for months and he couldn't
<v Speaker 1>afford to take that much time off. You know, back then,
<v Speaker 1>if he didn't work, he didn't get paid. So instead
<v Speaker 1>he had the doctor scope it. I think he had
<v Speaker 1>him chop off all the little nerve endings that were
<v Speaker 1>floating around in there that caused the pain. Right, you
<v Speaker 1>chop off the nerve endings, you won't feel anything. But
<v Speaker 1>there was another scaffold match the following year, and this
<v Speaker 1>time Bubba got up on the scaffold himself and he
<v Speaker 1>didn't fall off, but he took a punch to the balls.
<v Speaker 1>He still had to go up there though and work.
<v Speaker 1>He was part of the match and he ended up
<v Speaker 1>getting paid five thousand dollars for that. Everybody else got
<v Speaker 1>ten grand a piece, and that really bothered him. He
<v Speaker 1>was very hot about that, and ultimately it's what led
<v Speaker 1>to him going to the WWF. This is when Vince
<v Speaker 1>McMahon was looking for monsters to feed to Hogan. Once
<v Speaker 1>Vince found out that he worked as a real life
<v Speaker 1>corrections officer, the Big boss Man was born. Now they
<v Speaker 1>completely skipped over his initial run as part of the
<v Speaker 1>Twin Towers with Akim Remember Akem The African Dream because
<v Speaker 1>you see, Dusty Roads was the American dream, so Akim
<v Speaker 1>was the African dream who danced funny, which was their
<v Speaker 1>way of making fun of Dusty before he ended up
<v Speaker 1>coming to the company. That's also how Virgil got his
<v Speaker 1>name with Ted d Biassi Dusty's their real name was Virgil.
<v Speaker 1>So they took this man's servant and they called him Virgil,
<v Speaker 1>and then Dusty came in and they put him in
<v Speaker 1>polka dots, and I'll be damned if he didn't get
<v Speaker 1>over in spite of it. You know, sometimes natural charisma
<v Speaker 1>just can't be denied, no matter how ridiculous they try
<v Speaker 1>to make you look. Terry Taylor had no natural charisma.
<v Speaker 1>If they made Dusty Roads the Red Rooster, I guarantee
<v Speaker 1>you he would have had the fans in those buildings
<v Speaker 1>crowing like roosters. I'm sad they skipped over the Twin
<v Speaker 1>Towers run though, because one of my favorite matches from
<v Speaker 1>that era involved them actually live on NBC against Hulk
<v Speaker 1>Hogan and Randy Savage. It was the night the Mega
<v Speaker 1>Powers broke up. Akim fell through the ropes. He damn
<v Speaker 1>near broke his neck in that match, but it's still
<v Speaker 1>a top three Angle all time for me. In wrestling,
<v Speaker 1>they did cover boss Man feuding with Hogan as a
<v Speaker 1>singles and the famous steel cage match they had on
<v Speaker 1>Saturday Night's main event where Hogan gave him a superplex
<v Speaker 1>from the top of the cage, which was a crazy
<v Speaker 1>spot to see back then, especially from guys who were
<v Speaker 1>that big. Hogan didn't have to be doing superlexes off
<v Speaker 1>the top in those hard ass rings, no less, it's
<v Speaker 1>no wonder the man had ten or eleven back surgeries.
<v Speaker 1>But what's nuttier is that they did the same spot
<v Speaker 1>over and over again multiple times all over the house shows,
<v Speaker 1>and it ended up being one of the most successful
<v Speaker 1>house show programs box office wise, that the company had
<v Speaker 1>ever seen. He actually worked Hogan years later in WCW
<v Speaker 1>in the main event of the very first and Nitro
<v Speaker 1>at the Mall of America, so a lot of history
<v Speaker 1>between those two. The two of them then became allies
<v Speaker 1>when they turned boss Man babyface. This would have been
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety so now of course he could serve
<v Speaker 1>justice to all the bad guys and they can make
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money off boss Man merch. Remember they
<v Speaker 1>made those foam nightsticks. I had one of those wrestling
<v Speaker 1>buddies hasbro figures. They should have made plastic boss man handcuffs.
<v Speaker 1>Could have made some money off that. When he turned babyface,
<v Speaker 1>he dropped a lot of weight. If you look at
<v Speaker 1>him from the time he debuted there in the feud
<v Speaker 1>with Hogan to the time that you know he was
<v Speaker 1>working against Akim and Mister Perfect and all the other
<v Speaker 1>people that he worked against. Is a babyface. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>he had to have dropped at least one hundred pounds easily.
<v Speaker 1>Like it was that noticeable. And I had always wondered,
<v Speaker 1>you know why that was that he lost all the weight,
<v Speaker 1>Like was it health related? Did he have like some
<v Speaker 1>sort of health scare, or did it have to do
<v Speaker 1>with him just wanting to get himself in better shape cosmetically.
<v Speaker 1>It definitely made him quicker, and it made him more
<v Speaker 1>agile in the ring, and he was already pretty agile
<v Speaker 1>for a big guy. Honestly one of the best big
<v Speaker 1>guys in wrestling history. But what it was, Bruce Pritchard
<v Speaker 1>talked about this on his podcast many years ago, was
<v Speaker 1>that he had a knee injury at the time. It
<v Speaker 1>was really bothering him and plus Vince Vince did want
<v Speaker 1>him to drop some weight, and I guess the doctor
<v Speaker 1>told him, like, you have two options here. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>you can have surgery to fix your knee or you
<v Speaker 1>could drop the weight. And he chose to drop the
<v Speaker 1>weight and the knee stopped bothering him, wouldn't you know?
<v Speaker 1>He felt a lot better. But they got the mountee
<v Speaker 1>for this episode. Jacques Rougeau, who just got booed by
<v Speaker 1>his fellow countryman on the aw pay per view last
<v Speaker 1>weekend and he was almost kicked out of the building.
<v Speaker 1>They were at the they were in Montreal, they were
<v Speaker 1>at the Bell Center and this is a very Jacques story.
<v Speaker 1>So they did a pre show segment. I know, I'm
<v Speaker 1>taking a detour here, but they did a pre show
<v Speaker 1>segment last Sunday honoring eighty years of the Rougeau dynasty
<v Speaker 1>and they had Jacques and Raymond in the ring for it.
<v Speaker 1>And Meltzer reported that the reason that there was no
<v Speaker 1>video tribute like before they came out, maybe you think, oh,
<v Speaker 1>they play video or something. The reason there was no
<v Speaker 1>tribute video was Jacques had told them, oh, I'll take
<v Speaker 1>care of it, like I'll put the video together, and
<v Speaker 1>apparently he got it to them like the day of
<v Speaker 1>the show, and I don't know why they would have
<v Speaker 1>been relying on him to do the video, but in
<v Speaker 1>any event, he gets the video over to them and
<v Speaker 1>the video is too long. It has music in the
<v Speaker 1>background that they don't have the rights to. It has
<v Speaker 1>AI elements in it that they were never going to use,
<v Speaker 1>so they were like, we're not using this, and he
<v Speaker 1>pitched a fit over it, and he threw a temper
<v Speaker 1>tange from to the point where one person told him
<v Speaker 1>either calm down or we're gonna throw your ass out
<v Speaker 1>of here. And he actually posted the video to his
<v Speaker 1>Facebook page if you want to see it. I think
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty tame overall. I mean, of course, he included
<v Speaker 1>the footage of him pitting Hogan back in ninety seven
<v Speaker 1>from that Fancam footage. But in the episode here he
<v Speaker 1>said that he wasn't a real Mounte, but he was
<v Speaker 1>a real jerk. Yeah. Well, at least he's self aware.
<v Speaker 1>But he's also the only person I can remember on
<v Speaker 1>Dark Side of the Ring to be dressed in full
<v Speaker 1>gimmick while he was being interviewed. He had the whole
<v Speaker 1>Mounty costume on, right down to the replica Intercontinental title,
<v Speaker 1>which he held for literally two days, but he was
<v Speaker 1>there to talk about his jailhouse match with Boss Man.
<v Speaker 1>It's Summer Slim nineteen ninety one. God, I love that match. Honestly,
<v Speaker 1>it's the post match more than the match itself. After
<v Speaker 1>he loses, he gets handcuffed and he gets taken and
<v Speaker 1>the camera follows him as he's being taken away to
<v Speaker 1>the paddy wagon out back in Madison Square Garden, and
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the pay per view, they would
<v Speaker 1>cut back to various scenes of him being taken to
<v Speaker 1>the precinct. He's being fingerprinted, you know, give me your finger,
<v Speaker 1>you want the finger, here's the finger, right, getting his
<v Speaker 1>mugshot taken, and then it ultimately ac culminates with him
<v Speaker 1>being thrown into a cell with some guy in leather.
<v Speaker 1>The whole thing was so wacky, but it was so great.
<v Speaker 1>It was so great, and you could tell like he
<v Speaker 1>loves being the Mounty. He loves being the Mounty. So
<v Speaker 1>when I met him many years ago, I was doing
<v Speaker 1>interviews for Fight TV at wressel Con. This would have
<v Speaker 1>been when WrestleMania came to Orlando, and he was one
<v Speaker 1>of the people I had a chance to briefly talk
<v Speaker 1>to was him and Jimmy Hart, and he was in
<v Speaker 1>full Mounty gear. He like he was the Mounty in
<v Speaker 1>that moment, and more than any other character he may
<v Speaker 1>have portrayed, the rouge O Brothers anything like that, Like
<v Speaker 1>he's the Mounty and nobody loves him more than he does.
<v Speaker 1>But those segments were just they were so entertaining. And
<v Speaker 1>the whole time, by the way, all the stuff that's
<v Speaker 1>going on at the precincts, he's just yelling at the officers.
<v Speaker 1>Do you know who I am? I'm the Mountie. My god,
<v Speaker 1>fucking love it. I will gladly take these segments over
<v Speaker 1>one Dan Hausen concert any day. They didn't get into
<v Speaker 1>any of Boss Man's feud with Nails, though, the evil
<v Speaker 1>x con who was out for revenge on the man
<v Speaker 1>who put him away unjustly, I'm sure, and whose voice
<v Speaker 1>they would alter in post production on all the TV shows.
<v Speaker 1>Every time he cut a promo, I swear to guy
<v Speaker 1>like he would be out there. And again, you know,
<v Speaker 1>I'm a younger fan, I don't know any better, and
<v Speaker 1>I'm listening to this guy cut a promo. Boss Man,
<v Speaker 1>you put me a womb boss I'm gonna Beachress Boss Burn.
<v Speaker 1>That's literally a nails promo right there. And then of
<v Speaker 1>course there's the the unreleased promo my Summer Slim Payoffs,
<v Speaker 1>a little life VIDs. There should be an extra zero
<v Speaker 1>this shit give me my fucking money vice anyway, but
<v Speaker 1>that was effectively the end of boss Man's run there.
<v Speaker 1>You know, the drawback to him working that schedule, and
<v Speaker 1>the schedule back then was just inhumane. I mean you
<v Speaker 1>go back and you look at that WA schedule in
<v Speaker 1>the eighties and even into the early nineties, it was inhumane.
<v Speaker 1>I mean they ran them like pieces of meat, you know,
<v Speaker 1>when they would have B cruse and C crews and
<v Speaker 1>they would run multiple shows on the same night across
<v Speaker 1>the country, and it was just insane. And he was
<v Speaker 1>never home to see his family, and his daughter grew
<v Speaker 1>very distant from him because, yeah, she was very young,
<v Speaker 1>and to her, you know, he had become this stranger,
<v Speaker 1>which is really sad to hear her say. That's what
<v Speaker 1>she said in the episode. But that's why they saw
<v Speaker 1>his WCW run as a blessing, you know, to you
<v Speaker 1>and me, his WCW run was nothing memorable, and he
<v Speaker 1>ran through a bunch of different gimmicks because he couldn't
<v Speaker 1>use the Big boss Man name anymore, so he came
<v Speaker 1>in using his old Big Bubba Rogers name, and then
<v Speaker 1>they made him the Boss, which Vince threatened to sue
<v Speaker 1>them over because it was too close to his old likeness.
<v Speaker 1>So then it was the Guardian Angel. Then he just
<v Speaker 1>went by his real name for a while. The only
<v Speaker 1>thing of note that he ever did there was when
<v Speaker 1>he initially came in, he feuded with Vader sting Invader.
<v Speaker 1>This feud was not but they still had some good
<v Speaker 1>matches together. You know, they worked. God how many fucking
<v Speaker 1>pay per views did they work in ninety four? Like
<v Speaker 1>three or four pay per views Spring Stampede. I know
<v Speaker 1>is won Bash at the Beach, which was Hogan's debut
<v Speaker 1>against Flair, Boss Man Invader, worked Fall Brawl and Halloween Havoc,
<v Speaker 1>and then after that, the only thing, the only thing
<v Speaker 1>I remember him doing after that, he joined the nWo,
<v Speaker 1>which I mean, who gives his shit because everybody joined
<v Speaker 1>the nWo, But he joined the nWo and he had
<v Speaker 1>a Mexican death match with Hugh Morris. Now, why Big
<v Speaker 1>Bubba and Hugh Morris would have a Mexican death match.
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. I don't remember the context. I
<v Speaker 1>don't remember the story behind it, if there was a
<v Speaker 1>story behind it. What I do remember is that Bubba
<v Speaker 1>ran him down with a motorcycle and he won the
<v Speaker 1>match by count out. So I remember that. And I
<v Speaker 1>can't even blame Russo for this. You cannot even lay
<v Speaker 1>this at the feet of Vince Russo. This was early
<v Speaker 1>ninety seven. But if you didn't know the date, and
<v Speaker 1>I told you that boss Men and Bill DeMott were
<v Speaker 1>in a Mexican death match and boss Man ran him
<v Speaker 1>down with a motorcycle, one hundred percent, you would guess
<v Speaker 1>that this was during the Russo era of WCW. Vince
<v Speaker 1>Russo actually was also interviewed for this because they got
<v Speaker 1>into boss Man's return during the Attitude era. Now, Jim
<v Speaker 1>Cornett calls the creative for boss Man's second run rotten
<v Speaker 1>some of the worst stuff ever in the history of wrestling.
<v Speaker 1>And I will never get tired of these episodes where
<v Speaker 1>he and Russo take shots at one another. It's just
<v Speaker 1>too bad they're not in the same room together. But
<v Speaker 1>if they don't eventually do that, if they don't eventually
<v Speaker 1>end the series, Like eventually, Dark Side of the Ring
<v Speaker 1>will come to an end. And when that time comes,
<v Speaker 1>I hope it's not one of these like mid season cancelations.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they can get a heads up and they could
<v Speaker 1>do like a big series finale type episode. And my
<v Speaker 1>hope is that at the end of all of this
<v Speaker 1>it ends with the two of them face to face
<v Speaker 1>in the same room. If it doesn't end with that,
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be very disappointed, because you're you're gonna go out.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, at least take the series out in the
<v Speaker 1>blaze of glory, right, You got to give the people
<v Speaker 1>what they want. But Cornett, look, he's not totally wrong here.
<v Speaker 1>Some of it was rotten. But the stuff boss Man
<v Speaker 1>did in his second stint there, it's a guilty pleasure
<v Speaker 1>of mine. I actually love it. So I can't agree
<v Speaker 1>with him totally on that. I can understand, you know,
<v Speaker 1>the family not liking it. It was it was very questionable.
<v Speaker 1>They brought him back first as Vince McMahon's bodyguard. He
<v Speaker 1>was clad in a black tactical vest. He looked like
<v Speaker 1>the grandfather of the Shield. They brought this man back
<v Speaker 1>and his first night in he was working with Stone
<v Speaker 1>Cold Steve Austin, and I was there that night. It
<v Speaker 1>was my birthday gift that year, tickets to Raw at
<v Speaker 1>the nasau Colise. It was the same night that Austin
<v Speaker 1>ports Cement into Vince's limo, but the main event was
<v Speaker 1>Stone Cold and the Rock against Undertaker and Kine. There
<v Speaker 1>could be no better match to sum up the Attitude
<v Speaker 1>era than that one right there. And boss Man attacks
<v Speaker 1>Austin with a nightstick at the very end of the show,
<v Speaker 1>at the very end of the match, and he pulls
<v Speaker 1>the mask off for the big reveal, and I think
<v Speaker 1>that's how they went off the air. And the plan
<v Speaker 1>supposedly had been for him to feud with Austin, but
<v Speaker 1>there was a blown spot during Austin's Deadly Game match
<v Speaker 1>at Survivor Series with Mankind where boss Man was supposed
<v Speaker 1>to run in and hit him with a chair, except
<v Speaker 1>nobody could find where boss Man was. Apparently he was
<v Speaker 1>busy in the back going over his match later or
<v Speaker 1>whatever later with the Undertaker, deep in conversation, I guess
<v Speaker 1>with the Undertaker. Meanwhile, this match is going on and
<v Speaker 1>they're getting to the spot, and I think Vince, because
<v Speaker 1>Vince was at ringside, and Patterson was there, brisco all
<v Speaker 1>of them, and Vince's like, where's boss Man? And they
<v Speaker 1>didn't know he ran out, so they had to call
<v Speaker 1>an audible and they had Briscoe get in the ring
<v Speaker 1>and he hit I think Slaughter was there too, and
<v Speaker 1>Briscoe gets in the ring and he hits Austin with
<v Speaker 1>one of the worst chair shots that you will ever see. Now,
<v Speaker 1>it's not as bad as the Lance Storm one to
<v Speaker 1>was it RVD? I think in ECW it wasn't as
<v Speaker 1>bad as that. It wasn't as bad as the Hulk
<v Speaker 1>Hogan Love tap with the chair to Conan's head in WCW.
<v Speaker 1>But it's pretty bad. And it was bad enough that
<v Speaker 1>Austin when he got to the back, Austin just cussed
<v Speaker 1>him out, like he went off on him. So that
<v Speaker 1>ended any chance of Boston Men working an actual program
<v Speaker 1>with Austin. I mean, look, it's not like it would
<v Speaker 1>have been a long one anyway. I mean, this would
<v Speaker 1>have been in the period between Survivors series and the
<v Speaker 1>Rumble in ninety nine, all right, so maybe they would
<v Speaker 1>have gotten a pay per view match out of it,
<v Speaker 1>maybe at that December in Your House show Austin an Undertaker.
<v Speaker 1>They had a buried a live match on that show.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe instead of Austin Undertaker buried alive, it would have
<v Speaker 1>been Austin against the Man. But outside of that, believe me,
<v Speaker 1>any sort of Austin boss Man thing, it would have
<v Speaker 1>been brief. I'm not even sure. There would have been
<v Speaker 1>a pay per view match, maybe a television main event
<v Speaker 1>at best. But then they got into the hanging spot
<v Speaker 1>from his hell in a Cell match with Undertaker WrestleMania fifteen,
<v Speaker 1>which was not a good match, and it was Russo's
<v Speaker 1>idea to do the mock hanging and they tell him
<v Speaker 1>like that. You could hear the producer in the background
<v Speaker 1>tell Russo, you know boss Man's family. This was like
<v Speaker 1>the first time or one of the first times his
<v Speaker 1>family had come to see him live and they were
<v Speaker 1>in attendance for this, and Russo just laughs. He's like,
<v Speaker 1>oh my, oh, I had no idea, Bro, the first
<v Speaker 1>I'm hearing of this, bro. And Cornett said, how do
<v Speaker 1>you come back from a hanging? I mean, the man
<v Speaker 1>has a point. I mean, in aw, they would still
<v Speaker 1>kick out at two, but I mean that's besides the point.
<v Speaker 1>So we go from him being hanged to him feuding
<v Speaker 1>with Al Snow. Not sure which is worse, but he's
<v Speaker 1>feuding with Al Snow and he steals his pet Chihuahua Pepper.
<v Speaker 1>He cooks the dog. He feeds the dog to Al Snow.
<v Speaker 1>He fed Al Snow some pepper steak, and boss Man's
<v Speaker 1>daughter had to go to school the next day and
<v Speaker 1>answer questions from her friends about why her father was
<v Speaker 1>cooking someone's dog, and that then led to the infamous
<v Speaker 1>Kennel from Hell match to blow off their feud, a
<v Speaker 1>match so great that they never did it again. Even
<v Speaker 1>the mere mention of it probably would be enough to
<v Speaker 1>get you fired and blackballed from the industry. But after
<v Speaker 1>that he transitioned into a feud with the Big Show,
<v Speaker 1>which included boss Man hiring a fake police officer to
<v Speaker 1>inform Big Show that his father had passed away, even
<v Speaker 1>though he had not. But then he did, and so
<v Speaker 1>boss Man crashed the funeral of Big Show's father. He
<v Speaker 1>dragged Big Show's father's casket through the cemetery hitch to
<v Speaker 1>the back of the Blues Mob from the Blues Brothers movie.
<v Speaker 1>This was their world title feud, by the way, because
<v Speaker 1>Big Show won the Championship at Survivor Series that year.
<v Speaker 1>This is your WWE title feud. They ended up having
<v Speaker 1>a three minute match at the Armageddon pay per view
<v Speaker 1>that absolutely fucking sucked, and it involved Big Show laying
<v Speaker 1>on the floor outside. For I would say about eighty
<v Speaker 1>five percent of it. Now, was all of this stuff tasteless? Absolutely,
<v Speaker 1>they did a lot of tasteless shit back then. This
<v Speaker 1>was only a year or so after they shot the
<v Speaker 1>angle with a drunk Road Warrior Hawk being pushed off
<v Speaker 1>the top of the Titan Tron by Draws. But I
<v Speaker 1>would be lying if I said that I didn't find
<v Speaker 1>some of these segments very entertaining, because I did. I did,
<v Speaker 1>And Boss Man was fully committed to the role. He
<v Speaker 1>was such a rap bastard in that feud. He was great.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look look at what they had this man
<v Speaker 1>do in ninety nine, feeding a man's dog to him
<v Speaker 1>and dragging someone's cask get through the graveyard. We don't
<v Speaker 1>get heels like that anymore. But look, I understand where
<v Speaker 1>Cornett is coming from when he says that it sucks
<v Speaker 1>that most people may only remember Ray from all the
<v Speaker 1>stupid shit they had him doing in ninety nine. Right,
<v Speaker 1>instead of the fact that he was a great worker
<v Speaker 1>who had this whole career before that and worked some
<v Speaker 1>of the biggest names in the industry that I understand,
<v Speaker 1>and that does suck. If there are fans out there
<v Speaker 1>who identify him only for that and nothing else that
<v Speaker 1>he ever did, then that's that's terrible. They also interviewed
<v Speaker 1>referee Nick Patrick for this and he talked about the
<v Speaker 1>boys using somas, which is a muscle relaxer. There used
<v Speaker 1>to be a thing in wrestling called a soma coma
<v Speaker 1>because they would take so many of them. And this
<v Speaker 1>is where the episode went from the absurd, silly haha
<v Speaker 1>stuff to dark side of the ring. Boss Man was
<v Speaker 1>popping soma's just to not hurt anymore. He was in
<v Speaker 1>great pain. His family never saw him like that before.
<v Speaker 1>He you know, passing out of the dinner table, I
<v Speaker 1>mean stuff like that. And he wasn't a pill guy,
<v Speaker 1>you know, he wasn't really a drug guide. But he's
<v Speaker 1>got a bad back, his knee hurts, he's still working,
<v Speaker 1>he's still on the road, and he's self medicating to
<v Speaker 1>try to soldier on. And it was very easy back
<v Speaker 1>then to get prescriptions from certain doctors. These Mark doctors
<v Speaker 1>for whatever they needed. Oh hey, I've got a prescription
<v Speaker 1>for it, so it's okay. You know, look, the doc
<v Speaker 1>gave me a prescription. We're all good. How Chris ben
<v Speaker 1>Wah factored into this is that boss Man was getting
<v Speaker 1>his prescriptions from doctor phil Aston, the same doctor in
<v Speaker 1>Georgia who provided a lot of the other wrestlers with
<v Speaker 1>their candy, shall we say, including Chris Benwih That famous
<v Speaker 1>final photo of ben Wa that was taken the same
<v Speaker 1>day that they believe he killed Nancy that was taken
<v Speaker 1>in doctor Aston's office, which was later rated, and he
<v Speaker 1>admitted to illegally prescribing drugs, sometimes even without examining the patients.
<v Speaker 1>He pled guilty to like one hundred seventy five counts
<v Speaker 1>against him. He got sent to prison for ten years.
<v Speaker 1>He served his sentence, he got out, but he's dead
<v Speaker 1>now and the world is a better place for it.
<v Speaker 1>Ben Wah and the boss Man were actually very close
<v Speaker 1>again ben Wa, He's never even mentioned here, but the
<v Speaker 1>two of them were very close. Chris Jericho, in his
<v Speaker 1>second book, I believe it was his second book, said
<v Speaker 1>that when boss Man passed away, ben Wah called him
<v Speaker 1>up and he was crying, and he was saying, I
<v Speaker 1>can't do this anymore. I'm tired of all my friends
<v Speaker 1>dying on me. And that was a year before Eddie died,
<v Speaker 1>and then a few months after that, Johnny Grunge died,
<v Speaker 1>whom ben Wah was also very close with. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>that man was a time bomb waiting to explode. But
<v Speaker 1>I dug up the journal entry that ben wa wrote.
<v Speaker 1>His father gave a copy of it to IRV Mushnick
<v Speaker 1>years ago. His father had told Mushnik that Chris's two
<v Speaker 1>best friends were Eddie Guerrero and Ray Trailer and I
<v Speaker 1>never knew they were that close. But you read this
<v Speaker 1>and it's very clear how much boss Man meant to him.
<v Speaker 1>This is what he wrote for those of you who
<v Speaker 1>may never have heard this before. This is in Benoi's
<v Speaker 1>own words. September twenty second, two thousand and four, Ray
<v Speaker 1>Trailor passed away from a heart attack. I don't remember
<v Speaker 1>the first time I met Ray, but that seems to
<v Speaker 1>be with a lot of my life. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>if it's because I've lost a lot of memories because
<v Speaker 1>of bumping, or if I just don't like looking in
<v Speaker 1>rear view mirrors. Too much. This one thing I hate
<v Speaker 1>about myself for these walls I put up around myself
<v Speaker 1>sometimes when I feel hurt and everything seems to be oblivious.
<v Speaker 1>I love Ray Traylor. He's the only person that I
<v Speaker 1>know that I've never seen in a bad mood or
<v Speaker 1>not smile or not make me smile. Ever, he always
<v Speaker 1>made time for me, whether to talk or lend a
<v Speaker 1>helping hand. Ray Traylor was a real person, no guess work.
<v Speaker 1>I like to say. Ray Traylor was a man's man.
<v Speaker 1>He always used to say that about me to me.
<v Speaker 1>I would spend days with him. In every half hour,
<v Speaker 1>so though it seemed like every five minutes, he would say,
<v Speaker 1>Chris Benoi, have I told you I loved you yet?
<v Speaker 1>And I used to laugh and he would laugh. But
<v Speaker 1>by the end of the day, whenever we were done
<v Speaker 1>doing whatever we were doing, we would hug and I
<v Speaker 1>would tell him I loved him. I used to laugh
<v Speaker 1>when I would hear that from him all day. I
<v Speaker 1>used to laugh. Thinking about it now I don't, but
<v Speaker 1>I know why he did it and what he meant.
<v Speaker 1>Ray Trailer loved life and everything it offered. It is
<v Speaker 1>September twenty fifth today. I'm sitting on a plane on
<v Speaker 1>my way to Sue's City to wrestle. I just left
<v Speaker 1>Pickett Mills Baptist Church, where the service for Ray Trailer
<v Speaker 1>was held. I spent time with his wife, Angie, and
<v Speaker 1>two young daughters, Lacey and Megan. I listened to some
<v Speaker 1>of his friends get up and tell stories that made
<v Speaker 1>me laugh while I was crying. The most emotional part
<v Speaker 1>was listening to his daughter Lacey speak. I wanted to
<v Speaker 1>take all of her pain and sadness away. I pray
<v Speaker 1>that God gives them the strength and faith they need
<v Speaker 1>to get through this. Angie, Lacey, Megan. As Nancy and
<v Speaker 1>I left the church and watch them put Rays off
<v Speaker 1>and into the hearse we both waved goodbye one last time,
<v Speaker 1>and I thanked him in my heart and thanked God
<v Speaker 1>for putting him in my life, and I said, I
<v Speaker 1>love you Ray. It's tough to hear that things got
<v Speaker 1>bad enough that Ray and his wife separated. She couldn't
<v Speaker 1>take it anymore. And then Kurt Hennick died and that
<v Speaker 1>really bothered Ray. The two of them were very close,
<v Speaker 1>and that seemed to be the wake up call that
<v Speaker 1>he needed, because after Kurt's death, he told his wife,
<v Speaker 1>look I want to come back home. You know. He
<v Speaker 1>wanted her forgiveness, and they renewed their wedding vows, and
<v Speaker 1>his wife says that she never saw him get messed
<v Speaker 1>up again after that. He did still have pain, though,
<v Speaker 1>and he had been complaining one night about his knees,
<v Speaker 1>and she took the kids upstairs to bed. He said,
<v Speaker 1>I'll be up soon to tuck them in, and he
<v Speaker 1>never came upstairs. And when his wife came down to
<v Speaker 1>grab a drink for one of the kids, she looked
<v Speaker 1>over and she noticed him on the couch and his
<v Speaker 1>color didn't look right. And to hear his daughter say
<v Speaker 1>that she won't ever forget hearing her mother's screams and
<v Speaker 1>coming downstairs and finding her dad like that. You know,
<v Speaker 1>his wife called nine to one one. They told her
<v Speaker 1>lay him flat on the ground. The guy was over
<v Speaker 1>three hundred pounds though at that point, you know, so
<v Speaker 1>for a woman and her daughter, I mean, that was
<v Speaker 1>not an easy thing to do. But his daughter had
<v Speaker 1>just started taking CPR classes like the week before, so
<v Speaker 1>she started chess compressions and if you ever watch doctor
<v Speaker 1>Mike on YouTube, chest compressions, Chess compressions, chess compressions. Every
<v Speaker 1>time I say that out loud, He's the first person
<v Speaker 1>I think of. But she was doing chess compressions and
<v Speaker 1>giving him mouth to mouth and she said that she
<v Speaker 1>could feel his last breaths in her mouth. Like this
<v Speaker 1>is the part that is just it's heartbreaking. The paramedics arrived,
<v Speaker 1>but they couldn't revive him, and he was only forty
<v Speaker 1>one years old, and his wife says that his whole
<v Speaker 1>family died young from heart issues. Cornett says he died
<v Speaker 1>a week before the first Midnight Express reunion that they
<v Speaker 1>had planned. I guess at whatever convention they were going
<v Speaker 1>to be working. And this is the point where Cornet
<v Speaker 1>had to excuse himself to get up because he just
<v Speaker 1>totally broke down crying. They show part of his WWE
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame induction in twenty sixteen. We got a
<v Speaker 1>lot of home video footage throughout the episode, which was
<v Speaker 1>very cool to see. It's very similar to the Hulk
<v Speaker 1>Hogan docu series on Netflix in that regard, and I
<v Speaker 1>thought it did a good job of filling in the
<v Speaker 1>gaps on his personal life, because you know, to us,
<v Speaker 1>he was the big boss man. We didn't get to
<v Speaker 1>know Ray trailer, and by all accounts, he was a
<v Speaker 1>good person and he was a great father, and if
<v Speaker 1>that was his only legacy, that would be a fine
<v Speaker 1>legacy for him to leave behind. But he was also
<v Speaker 1>a great wrestler who was very successful at his craft,
<v Speaker 1>and by all accounts, never let all of that success
<v Speaker 1>that he had early on in his career get to
<v Speaker 1>his head. He was still the same person he was
<v Speaker 1>when he got into the business, just a little more famous.
<v Speaker 1>All right, again, I'm gonna be with you live on
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<v Speaker 1>Slam Mexico post show on Wednesday. There will be no
<v Speaker 1>SmackDown post show on Friday, because again I will be
<v Speaker 1>at the NYC Arena for a big House of Glory
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<v Speaker 1>on my channel, that'll be on the Hog Channel. I
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<v Speaker 1>two Dan Housen's Lair with the Miz and Kit Wilson's
<v Speaker 1>still sitting there. You know they are sitting there looking
<v Speaker 1>very zombie. Five They may well have I mean, they
<v Speaker 1>were electrocuted, so they may well have lost all control
<v Speaker 1>of their bodily functions. For those keeping score, we have
<v Speaker 1>one mute person on this show every single week who
<v Speaker 1>just flanks and lays there while his wife watches helplessly.
<v Speaker 1>And then we have a couple of dudes, one of
<v Speaker 1>whom I should point out as a former two time
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<v Speaker 1>so mostly mute because these two men were previously electrocuted
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago. The fact that Maz is a two time
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