[SPEAKER_09]: Michael Mera, Radio Entertainment.

[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, Ed, good to see you again.

[SPEAKER_01]: And now he'll be here quietly with us, we will start the show.

[SPEAKER_09]: T-M-O-S, classic Friday, flashback.

[SPEAKER_07]: What a thrill it is for me on this show.

[SPEAKER_07]: I am so delighted to have this gentleman on the air.

[SPEAKER_07]: It 25 Emmy Awards, just think about that.

[SPEAKER_07]: Think about nightline for a well, I believe that show ran for one thousand years nightline ran on ABC and he's he's with us right now.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm talking about Ted couple Ted welcome to the micro marshal.

[SPEAKER_14]: I was just saying you realize you were nothing without room speedwork.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_07]: I say that.

[SPEAKER_07]: I say that every day, Ted, Ted, I would have had you on this show under any circumstances, but when I heard about the work you're doing to raise awareness of a COPD, which for those of you that might not know is chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.

[SPEAKER_07]: This became personal for me because I lost my father, 1993 at the age of 77, back then we didn't know anything about it.

[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, there was nothing about it.

[SPEAKER_14]: shedding light on it because there's so much we need to know and uh... that's why you're here in ted couple what an honor thanks so much for coming on the micro marriage show well uh... nice to do that and i couldn't be more delighted to help shed a little bit of light because uh... as you as you undoubtedly know there are fifteen million people in this country fifteen million who have been identified with clpd and the estimate is that there are

[SPEAKER_14]: And I think about that, 31 million people, so, you know, your experience for the dead is almost certainly the experience that almost everybody in this country has in terms of knowing someone in their immediate circle who's had COPD.

[SPEAKER_14]: And it kills 150,000 Americans a year, it's a relays for

[SPEAKER_14]: people who tune in and want to get a couple of laughs on your program.

[SPEAKER_14]: That's not exactly the way to do it, but it's a terribly important subject and I'm glad you're focusing a little bit of attention on it.

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I wanted to, and I've been at admirer of yours.

[SPEAKER_07]: You wouldn't remember this, but on the campus of American University, I think you were outside the NPR studios in Washington, and you took time to speak to me.

[SPEAKER_07]: And another guy that got into the business, Jeff Newman, and we were always just very, we were just really, really delighted that you had taken the time to talk to, a few journalism students, and it was a great memory for me.

[SPEAKER_07]: My question, when did you first become aware

[SPEAKER_07]: had a problem.

[SPEAKER_07]: If you can't briefly take us through that and how that whole thing transpired.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, actually we were over in Europe on a vacation on 9-11 in 2001.

[SPEAKER_14]: And obviously all of the attention at that time was on the terrible as ancient 9-11.

[SPEAKER_14]: My focus on the

[SPEAKER_14]: without having to sit down and catch your breath.

[SPEAKER_14]: And so I said, as soon as we get back to the United States, and we really have to get you examined and find out what's wrong.

[SPEAKER_14]: And before we went on vacation, she had gone to our family doctor who knew that she had trouble breathing, who gave her a complete physical and, in effect, said, do her, you know, a loose-time balance, you'll feel like a new woman.

[SPEAKER_14]: We went out to the Mayo Clinic and it was at the Mayo Clinic that she was diagnosed as having severe COPD.

[SPEAKER_14]: And when she asked that, obvious question that people tend to ask, you know, so, alright, what does that mean for me how much time do I have?

[SPEAKER_14]: They told her, you know, you need to start making end-of-life preparations in three to five years.

[SPEAKER_14]: Again, that was 17 years ago.

[SPEAKER_09]: Wow.

[SPEAKER_09]: Wow.

[SPEAKER_14]: So the good news is even though it is an incurable disease and that's tragically the first thing that most doctors tell you you've got an incurable disease.

[SPEAKER_14]: What they don't tell you is you've also got a treatable disease.

[SPEAKER_14]: And because Grace Anne is a good, you know, Catholic school girl who did everything the non-stoulders to do, you know, she has been doing that and here she is 17 years after she was told she had three to five years left to live and she's still going strong.

[SPEAKER_07]: Why does something that affects so many people?

[SPEAKER_07]: I think I read is it the number, the number three killer in this country?

[SPEAKER_14]: Yes, it is the number three killer.

[SPEAKER_14]: You know, cancer and the heart disease being worn into.

[SPEAKER_07]: Why does something affecting so many people get so little attention where we need a TED couple to get out there on CBS Sunday morning and tell us about it.

[SPEAKER_07]: Why so little attention for this?

[SPEAKER_14]: Well, first of all, I think there is an association of guilt there.

[SPEAKER_14]: You were probably a smoker.

[SPEAKER_14]: You brought it on yourself.

[SPEAKER_07]: My dad was a smoker, right?

[SPEAKER_14]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_14]: Two points.

[SPEAKER_14]: 25% of the people who have COPD never smoked a cigarette in their lives.

[SPEAKER_14]: That's the point on this guilt association business is something we need to drop with regards to COPD.

[SPEAKER_14]: We don't go around telling heart patients.

[SPEAKER_14]: If you hadn't hit Mickey D's three times a week, if you weren't drinking a quarter of Pepsi every day, if you didn't eat ice cream three times a week,

[SPEAKER_14]: uh... maybe you wouldn't have gotten that heart disease that you have right now uh... you know we can't focus only on what people have done that has brought this on themselves fact of the matter is most of us who spent their lives sunbathing uh... and as a result of it got you know one degree or another of skin cancer and don't want to don't want to be told that you're on damn fault

[SPEAKER_07]: The best part of your story is that your wife has done so well when I was researching this interview I found myself checking dates and bylines to see how is she doing right now?

[SPEAKER_07]: What is because she's been an amazing person?

[SPEAKER_14]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_14]: You know, she just yesterday had her buy and you'll check up and she's doing fine.

[SPEAKER_14]: Back in 2001 when she was first diagnosed with COPD.

[SPEAKER_14]: She had 26% of predicted lung capacity.

[SPEAKER_14]: 26% she is now back up around 50%.

[SPEAKER_14]: And has managed to keep it there for several years now.

[SPEAKER_14]: That's a hell of a lot better.

[SPEAKER_14]: She can accept for a flying on a plane.

[SPEAKER_14]: She doesn't need oxygen anymore.

[SPEAKER_14]: There was a period for almost three years when she was on oxygen full time, 24 hours a day.

[SPEAKER_07]: That is a stunning, and of course, when my dad was diagnosed, they didn't even know what it was.

[SPEAKER_07]: Maybe it's empathy.

[SPEAKER_07]: Maybe it's, I remember the big question marks with doctors.

[SPEAKER_07]: What does someone do, if they think they, or a loved one, have this condition, have COPD.

[SPEAKER_07]: What's the first thing you would recommend they do?

[SPEAKER_14]: I would recommend they go see a pulmonologist, but even if they only go to see the

[SPEAKER_14]: for COPD.

[SPEAKER_14]: And you just made a passing reference for up to the, I'm, I'm Mike, I'm sorry.

[SPEAKER_14]: That's okay to add a passing.

[SPEAKER_14]: She I've got, I've got Rob on the brain because he's been pestering me now.

[SPEAKER_14]: That's three months.

[SPEAKER_07]: I've got Rob on the brain because I look at a TV monitor I've his giant head in my face every day so I can see that.

[SPEAKER_14]: You know, the first thing to do is to be tested to see if you have COPD.

[SPEAKER_14]: And part of the problem is, people tend to be diagnosed with it late in life.

[SPEAKER_14]: They tend to be diagnosed with it when they're already in their late 50s or 60s or 70s.

[SPEAKER_14]: If they could be diagnosed earlier, if they could be diagnosed for example in their 40s, it's possible with the help of the proper inhalers and I want to emphasize this more than anything else with pulmonary rehabilitation.

[SPEAKER_14]: which means you exercise under the supervision of professionals and basically the exercise is fairly benign.

[SPEAKER_14]: It means getting on a treadmill and initially you may be working out at a very, very slow and easy level, but you build it up and you maintain that, grease and exercise is every single day of your life.

[SPEAKER_14]: on that treadmill that we have down in the basement, and she works out on that for usually half an hour, 45 minutes every single day, and that together with taking her in the lesions in exactly the correct fashion as kept her alive and kept her well.

[SPEAKER_07]: How does this work with this cause and I we've only got you for a short period of time.

[SPEAKER_07]: I want to ask you about lots of other stuff that one would ask Ted Coppola about.

[SPEAKER_07]: How does your work with this cause compare with all the other incredible things you've done in your career?

[SPEAKER_14]: Well, it clearly means a lot more to a lot, you know, to a great many more vulnerable people.

[SPEAKER_14]: I must say there may have been millions of people who watch nightline, but I doubt that

[SPEAKER_14]: Any one of those programs meant as much to people.

[SPEAKER_14]: My wife and I have the family foundation.

[SPEAKER_14]: We have opened up 11 pulmonary rehabilitation centers.

[SPEAKER_14]: Most of them in West Virginia were just opening one in Kentucky.

[SPEAKER_14]: We have one in North Carolina, one in Louisiana, one in southern Maryland.

[SPEAKER_14]: And the people who go to those pulmonary rehab centers report such

[SPEAKER_14]: I can't stress that enough, and there simply aren't enough of these pulmonary rehab centers around the country, and not only are there not enough, but the reimbursement rate that some of these hospitals get for giving someone pulmonary rehab is roughly half what they get for cardiac rehabilitation, which is essentially the same thing, there shouldn't be any cost

[SPEAKER_07]: uh... it's just i'm thinking as we're we're doing this interview uh... i really hope in our listening audience that some people are impacted by this immediately i think that's gonna happen i think that's a that's a thrill and you're doing great stuff and uh... and really continue to do it onto the state tag of journalism in this country uh... the news media uh... one disaster to another

[SPEAKER_07]: The news media, you know, this have been under fire for a while with the fake news accusations.

[SPEAKER_07]: How do you feel that the journalists on all the platforms are doing now?

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I think we know how you feel about Sean Hannity, but how do you feel that we are doing in the world of journalism right now?

[SPEAKER_07]: Because they have been under fire, what do you think the state of journalism is currently?

[SPEAKER_14]: Well, you know, when you say all the platforms, Mike, you're, you're, in fact, underscoring what one of the biggest problems is.

[SPEAKER_14]: There are so many thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of platforms because anybody with access to the internet, anybody with access to a laptop computer is capable of starting his or her own news operation.

[SPEAKER_14]: It can be the most amateurish,

[SPEAKER_14]: Literally, you know, when we talk about fake news, there are millions of examples of real fake news out there.

[SPEAKER_14]: It's the New York Times, the biggest example, hell, no.

[SPEAKER_14]: NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, Fox.

[SPEAKER_14]: No, they are not the biggest examples of fake news.

[SPEAKER_14]: You know, what we have is, and it sounds like a good thing, but it's not.

[SPEAKER_14]: What we have is a total democratization of numbers.

[SPEAKER_14]: And what that means is that anybody, whether without any professional training whatsoever, without any professional sense of ethics whatsoever, can get the word out there.

[SPEAKER_14]: And part of that has resulted in a great deal of confusion about what's real and what's not.

[SPEAKER_14]: these are interesting times that we're living in right now have you ever seen anything like this like what we are experiencing now are there any parallels in you know with your long career uh... well i mean there certainly parallels uh... you know from the political sense i mean the macArthur era was was similar in the sense that a great deal of lies were propagated by some unscrupulous people out there led by senator john macArthur

[SPEAKER_14]: And a lot of lives were ruined, a lot of careers were destroyed.

[SPEAKER_14]: But the fact of the matter is back then the capacity to spread fake news.

[SPEAKER_14]: was, you know, the tiniest fraction of what it is today.

[SPEAKER_07]: And you had access.

[SPEAKER_07]: I think that was probably someone doing a show like yours nightline.

[SPEAKER_07]: When there weren't a thousand, a thousand people out there trying to grab the same people, you had tremendous access.

[SPEAKER_07]: I would imagine that when nightline called, it was a pretty powerful deal for the subjects that you had on that show.

[SPEAKER_14]: Well, it was because you have to remember back in 1980 when Nightline began, CNN had just gone on the air.

[SPEAKER_14]: MSNBC, he didn't exist, satellite television was in its infancy.

[SPEAKER_14]: The internet did not exist in the sense that it was accessible to the public at large.

[SPEAKER_14]: So all the many, many outlets that exist today,

[SPEAKER_14]: We're still in the process of being born, so back then it was ABC, CBS, and NBC.

[SPEAKER_14]: And nightline at 1130 at night was the only television program on the air that covered the news at 1130 at night.

[SPEAKER_14]: So, you know, if you somehow missed the news on ABC and BC, CBS at 630 or 7, there was no place else to go late in the evening to figure out what was going on.

[SPEAKER_14]: you know the most important people in the country said absolutely what time do you need me to be there?

[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know, I know people that do what you do don't like to single out individuals, but I know what I'm sitting there watching the news or I'm watching someone on the tube, and I say, now that's it, now that's the right question.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's what I, I'm sure you're Ted Coppel, you're a human being.

[SPEAKER_07]: You have moments like that.

[SPEAKER_07]: Are there any journalists working today that stand out in your mind that are doing particularly good work?

[SPEAKER_14]: I'm not going to do it in terms of journalists, but it's, it's funny because this morning I was listening as I do most mornings to NPR.

[SPEAKER_14]: And they were doing a couple of terrific pieces that were, you know, four, five, six minutes long.

[SPEAKER_14]: And I turned to my wife and said, that's what needs to be done and television.

[SPEAKER_14]: That isn't being done.

[SPEAKER_14]: So, yes, you know, let's give a tip of the hat to NPR and PBS.

[SPEAKER_14]: You know, they're still doing a terrific job.

[SPEAKER_14]: And, and years there are, you know, there are people on the networks who are still doing a good job, but everybody is in such a tremendous battle to make money if these days and, you know, it may sound naive to say that because there actually was at times, you know, back in the 60s and even into the 70s.

[SPEAKER_14]: when the notion of a news division making money was just sort of strange.

[SPEAKER_14]: We didn't think about that.

[SPEAKER_14]: And the networks didn't think about that.

[SPEAKER_14]: There was sort of a deal out there.

[SPEAKER_14]: You go ahead.

[SPEAKER_14]: You can make your hundreds of millions of dollars with I love Lucy in 77 cents and strip and dragnet or whenever other program you want to put out there.

[SPEAKER_14]: But we also expect that you have a full-fledged news division.

[SPEAKER_07]: doing what a news division should do giving the American public the information it needs to have for a functioning democracy that there's a viral video that's circulated around with the tech couple and Sean Hannity about a year ago when you were on that program I think you're on his or was he on the course you were in his world uh... i actually i was doing a piece of the

[SPEAKER_07]: went when you went when you go to an interview like that you kind of know what's going to happen uh... do you steal yourself for battle when you go into that uh... world because uh... what came out of it was uh... it was a viral video where you're saying it bad for america and that type of moment what was it like uh... dealing with him as an individual because you don't get a lot of profiles on a guy like a shon Hannity and i'm curious what that experience was like for you

[SPEAKER_14]: Actually, I'm no one showing for many years and we've all where we've always had a pleasant relationship.

[SPEAKER_14]: And ironically, it wasn't, you know, a particularly skillful interviewing on my part, and I didn't go in there with an agenda to get him to say something like that.

[SPEAKER_14]: But he raised the question.

[SPEAKER_14]: He added to me and said, you think I'm bad for America.

[SPEAKER_14]: Don't you?

[SPEAKER_14]: And I said yes, and then it was incumbent on me to explain why.

[SPEAKER_16]: We have to give some credit to the American people that there is somewhat intelligent and that they know the difference between an opinion show and a new show.

[SPEAKER_16]: You're cynical, look at it.

[SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, I'm cynical, because you think we're bad for America?

[SPEAKER_16]: You think I'm bad for America?

[SPEAKER_16]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_16]: You do.

[SPEAKER_15]: In the long haul, I think you and all these opinions have said.

[SPEAKER_15]: No, you know what I'm saying?

[SPEAKER_15]: Because you're very good at what you do, and because you have attracted a significantly more and so much, let me finish the sentence, let me finish the sentence.

[SPEAKER_16]: I'm listening to that.

[SPEAKER_16]: With all the rest.

[SPEAKER_16]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_15]: You have attracted.

[SPEAKER_15]: people who are determined that ideology is more important than facts.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I want you back on television every night.

[SPEAKER_07]: If Ted Copper was teaching my journalism class, he probably would tell me not to ask this next question, but I have to do it because I've got you.

[SPEAKER_07]: And when I get somebody, I have to ask the typical question.

[SPEAKER_07]: What's there in my mind?

[SPEAKER_06]: Hold it.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_07]: was I'm asking you anyway and you would tell me to do that anyway was there a single story uh... and i'm not just including nightline i'm talking about when you go all the way back to uh... you know the the early days when you were working uh... on on a bc is there was a single story you covered that stands out uh... in your career not necessarily at how it impacted america but just personally how it affected you

[SPEAKER_14]: You know, as you're going to imagine, I'm asked that question quite a bit, and that's my experience.

[SPEAKER_14]: So the better part of three years in Vietnam allows Cambodia, clearly that hadn't an illness impact on me, I've covered, you know, depending on what classifies as a war I've covered, you know, eight to ten of them over the years when Nightline spent a week in South Africa.

[SPEAKER_14]: really as a part-time was just beginning to crumble and we got the South African government to agree to put some of its senior representatives on the air with black leaders in South Africa.

[SPEAKER_14]: That was a huge deal.

[SPEAKER_14]: I was with Mikhail Gorbachev sitting across from him in the Kremlin in his office as he

[SPEAKER_14]: On the last day of the Soviet Union, he and I watched the Soviet flag come down over the Kremlin for the last time, and the Russian flag being re-hoisted after 70 years.

[SPEAKER_14]: Those were big moments, I was with Nelson Mandela, a couple of days after he came out of prison.

[SPEAKER_14]: I was the first person to interview him in Winnie Mandela's garden in the Soweto.

[SPEAKER_14]: Um, you know, that's what makes journalism such an extraordinary profession because people who, on the normal circumstances, you know, wouldn't get within a mile of these events or these people are given leeway to be a tiny part of history.

[SPEAKER_07]: No, you know, measured fair, a calming voice that those are my memories of you on the air tad.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, by the way, you still write in the motorcycle?

[SPEAKER_07]: Are you still a biker?

[SPEAKER_14]: No.

[SPEAKER_14]: I gave that up about two years ago when I started getting nervous, you know, the minute you get nervous and the minute you feel you reflexes and not what they once were, it's time to put the biker away.

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, you are so kind to have taken the time with us.

[SPEAKER_07]: I want to make sure that we get the information out on COPD.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's the coPDfoundation.org.

[SPEAKER_07]: You can find out more about that and Ted Filling the blanks if I'm missing anything or anything that people need to know about COPD before we let you go.

[SPEAKER_14]: No, no, no, no.

[SPEAKER_14]: You're doing fine.

[SPEAKER_14]: The important thing is you got to understand right now, it's the number three killer.

[SPEAKER_14]: among major chronic diseases.

[SPEAKER_14]: Number three killer.

[SPEAKER_14]: Where does it rank in terms of funding by NIH, that is by the National Institutes of Health?

[SPEAKER_14]: 155th.

[SPEAKER_14]: We got to turn that round.

[SPEAKER_07]: I hope we do and with your work that's going to happen.

[SPEAKER_07]: Ted couple.

[SPEAKER_07]: I don't say it lightly.

[SPEAKER_07]: It is truly an honor having you on the program.

[SPEAKER_07]: And I wish you and your lovely wife Grace and nothing but success in the future.

[SPEAKER_07]: And thank you so, so much for taking the time to come on the micro mirror.

[SPEAKER_14]: You're very kind.

[SPEAKER_14]: And I really do have to say you're your buddy, Rob Spierick.

[SPEAKER_14]: He's the biggest pain in the ass.

[SPEAKER_14]: He's right here, Tom.

[SPEAKER_14]: He's right here.

[SPEAKER_07]: I know he bothered you because his boss came to him, Ted, and said, get me Ted Koppel with the whole COPD thing.

[SPEAKER_07]: I said, I need to speak to this man.

[SPEAKER_07]: And I know he pestered you, and that's why, well, that's what we have to do with our little engine to get somebody up to.

[SPEAKER_14]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_14]: I definitely wouldn't have been here without him.

[SPEAKER_14]: The A, he's a treasure.

[SPEAKER_14]: Hold on to him.

[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, you know, for the next two weeks, you're absolutely right.

[SPEAKER_06]: I'm coming at the end of the time, Ted.

[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's all.

[SPEAKER_07]: God bless you.

[SPEAKER_07]: Thanks so much for coming on the show.

[SPEAKER_07]: All right.

[SPEAKER_07]: Take care.

[SPEAKER_07]: Take care.

[SPEAKER_07]: Bye.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's awesome.

[SPEAKER_07]: Wow.

[SPEAKER_07]: I get to get up in the morning and Rob did.

[SPEAKER_07]: How Oscar?

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, about that.

[SPEAKER_13]: Our boy.

[SPEAKER_07]: We're getting the, that's a little bit of a, did you ex, did you see that one coming?

[SPEAKER_07]: Not at all.

[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know everything you had said to me.

[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I have to pull the curtain back.

[SPEAKER_07]: Please don't, please don't.

[SPEAKER_07]: We talk about Roberts like Rob, you have to show more initiative.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: You have to do this.

[SPEAKER_07]: So they're right there.

[SPEAKER_07]: Do you realize what, what he did for your stock in this world?

[SPEAKER_07]: Right now.

[SPEAKER_07]: I have two favorite moments.

[SPEAKER_08]: I had two favorite moments in the interview when he said you were doing fine because that had to make you feel 10 feet tall and when you called me a pain in the ass, I mean these are two two moments that we're going to put in our bucket of your ringtone.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I've told a story on the air that a bunch of us were hanging out of 61 WAMU and we were hanging out and there was Ted Coppola in a limousine going back to ABC when he was doing nightline and we sat there and and he chatted with us just like he was a regular dude and you know

[SPEAKER_07]: he lists the accomplishments at the end of that interview where he's just telling you what he was a part of this.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh no, it's just a real exciting moment for me as a guy that was, you know, has been into broadcast journalism, my whole life to get a guy like that.

[SPEAKER_07]: But Rob had to, I don't know how many emails yet.

[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I think we started actually, I think we started in November, swapping emails, and he's been teaching at Stanford and he refused to do it on West Coast time.

[SPEAKER_08]: His quote was,

[SPEAKER_08]: And you know one thing we did not get to I know like when I came in I had to explain to Andrea who Ted Coppa was and how important he was Because he's been out of the line like that long where there are many people in our audience that won't remember Ted Coppa Which is just but when I was during the research I blew my mind his big break he came to the National Consciousness on radio Covering the assassination of Jay.

[SPEAKER_08]: Which is a good.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yes

[SPEAKER_08]: And then he was supposed to do a short report and it turned out he had to fill 90 minutes and like a pro he filled 90 minutes And so I mean just unbelievable.

[SPEAKER_08]: It's such a need to remember a masquerade.

[SPEAKER_08]: You remember Ted.

[SPEAKER_17]: Oh, yeah, I grew up with him every night It was it was it Tom broke on and then Ted Coppola would be on depending on how my dad felt and then in the evening What network he was gonna go?

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, because you we would if you were if there was this is the way nightline role.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, mm-hmm If you had a national story if they got a great get

[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, it would be nightline.

[SPEAKER_07]: Otherwise, a lot of people would go to the late night talk shows, but nightline was it was either the huge story of the day, which they would cover, or it was an amazing get an amazing interview where everybody would nightlines ratings.

[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know the history of the ratings, but I think they would spike when you would get that big person that would come on.

[SPEAKER_08]: And it had its roots in a great cause nightline started as a nightly report on the hostages in Iran in 1980.

[SPEAKER_08]: And it turned out it almost

[SPEAKER_08]: And it turned out that it had such a good fit at ABC Late Night, it turned into a series.

[SPEAKER_09]: TEMOS classic.

[SPEAKER_10]: As you know, the San Diego is one of the finest who's in the world, and we've had this young lady on the show very often the past, I guess, seven or eight years.

[SPEAKER_10]: She's been appearing with us nine years.

[SPEAKER_10]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_10]: But nine years.

[SPEAKER_10]: Right, neon.

[SPEAKER_10]: Several plus several will be but nine.

[SPEAKER_10]: Use it seven or eight.

[SPEAKER_10]: No, I didn't say seven, right?

[SPEAKER_10]: That's it, it's several.

[SPEAKER_09]: Then you said seven or eight, and I said nine.

[SPEAKER_10]: Nine, nine, good, thank you.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_09]: Some of the animals, some of the animals you had as babies are now 10 years old.

[SPEAKER_09]: That would be about right.

[SPEAKER_09]: LAUGHTER Um, remember the animals that did something funny on your tie?

[SPEAKER_09]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_09]: Those little lions, a little baby lions, were one year old.

[SPEAKER_10]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_09]: They're now treacherous and ferocious, ten year old animals.

[SPEAKER_10]: OK.

[SPEAKER_10]: Anyway, John Embrace here tonight.

[SPEAKER_10]: And she's now 32.

[SPEAKER_10]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_10]: Joan is an animal handler and a trainer and he's really think you're fooling me but it was no no and she also do my best to help you I know that and she does her three horseshoes a day did you know that at the animal park boy what what a exciting idea would you like an army cod or something maybe you

[SPEAKER_09]: I don't, I know her, I want to have it.

[SPEAKER_09]: I know you did.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Alright, are you ready to give us an idea of all the even though you've been all ramped up today?

[SPEAKER_06]: I am.

[SPEAKER_08]: I'll try not to unfriend anybody for the next nine minutes.

[SPEAKER_08]: Okay, go for it.

[SPEAKER_08]: I've also, whatever I run into, a truly great piece of music, Mike, I like to share it.

[SPEAKER_08]: And what happens when America, when the world really is at crisis?

[SPEAKER_08]: Disjockeys get together and make parody records.

[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, let me get my dynamite ready.

[SPEAKER_06]: Are you ready?

[SPEAKER_08]: This one is called North Korea.

[SPEAKER_08]: I think you're gonna like, it's very clever.

[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I got it.

[UNKNOWN]: Oh, just suck it, Kim Jong-ho!

[SPEAKER_05]: I never know, great that was kind of worth coming into work today.

[SPEAKER_06]: Wasn't it?

[SPEAKER_06]: Are we?

[SPEAKER_06]: Are we going to be able to get those fat baby t-shirts on before this this things over?

[SPEAKER_13]: Oh absolutely.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, we are definitely going to what we need to just go over a couple of pieces of artwork and then we can have them by next week.

[SPEAKER_06]: The chop chop.

[SPEAKER_06]: Let's get that done because I think we're going to we have my wife in her infinite wisdom referred to Kim Jong-un as the fat baby.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's good.

[SPEAKER_06]: And so you're simply going to have a picture of fat on top, picture of him, baby.

[SPEAKER_06]: That's baby.

[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_08]: Now, because I knew Tony was coming in this week, I've been saving this Buzzfeed.com, put together a list of the worst Beatles covers ever.

[SPEAKER_08]: And I'd like to share some of them with you.

[SPEAKER_08]: The first one, Mike, I think you've probably never heard this before.

[SPEAKER_08]: Sean Connery doing the song in my life.

[SPEAKER_19]: There are places I'll remember all my life.

[SPEAKER_19]: No, some have changed.

[SPEAKER_19]: It's terrible, whatever.

[SPEAKER_19]: Isn't that horrible?

[SPEAKER_19]: It's really bad.

[SPEAKER_19]: Jump.

[SPEAKER_19]: Go on.

[SPEAKER_08]: It's sad, really.

[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, John Lennon was gone.

[SPEAKER_08]: He's still alive, and somehow that's sad.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I like it.

[SPEAKER_04]: But you know what?

[SPEAKER_04]: That's better than in my life being used for sleepy's mattresses.

[SPEAKER_04]: I agree.

[SPEAKER_04]: I agree.

[SPEAKER_04]: Do you remember?

[SPEAKER_04]: You Beatles fans.

[SPEAKER_08]: Do you remember in the old days?

[SPEAKER_08]: I think she did the Griffin show a lot.

[SPEAKER_08]: Mrs. Miller?

[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, she was like, there's not all the eggs.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, remember her.

[SPEAKER_08]: And novel the act, and she did a couple albums.

[SPEAKER_08]: Here's her take on a kids' favorite, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: I like it.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's good.

[SPEAKER_05]: It is good.

[SPEAKER_05]: The bubbling sound.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's actually her.

[SPEAKER_08]: No, but it's helped me.

[SPEAKER_08]: Who is Xavier Hollander?

[SPEAKER_08]: That's the happy hooker.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, she'll be especially happy after she knows we played her version of Michelle.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, are you turned on?

[SPEAKER_06]: There are horrors, and then there are horrors.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: But she falls into that category of just... She's kind of big and gross.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, now, yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: No, you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_06]: You say it's like overdone over and just...

[SPEAKER_06]: Gross.

[SPEAKER_05]: She was like an X-Madam, I think, which you recorded this.

[SPEAKER_04]: So, she would call it performing alone, if you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, you know her.

[SPEAKER_08]: She was big.

[SPEAKER_08]: I don't like I love this one.

[SPEAKER_08]: This is Bill Cosby You see

[SPEAKER_06]: Rappers, lower laner off, see that as a novelty record I'm laughing at that because because we probably when he was hot Yes, and and I like that and now Bill Cosby.

[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I've had the I've been blessed to interview Bill Cosby more than once and What's great about cause now is that he will just go off on a tangent I know what it's like and it's still Bill Cosby often times to forget to promote why he called Yeah, but he will go out and you know what he shows up in a sweat suit.

[SPEAKER_04]: You know when he when he's talking to you now He doesn't care

[SPEAKER_06]: And we're from the same era, so I mean, Bill Cosby was the man and then I don't care he's 150 years old and the fact that he comes on a my show and talks.

[SPEAKER_06]: I loved it and I let him ramble.

[SPEAKER_06]: I don't care.

[SPEAKER_06]: He's got Cosby.

[SPEAKER_06]: He gets that kind of scores.

[SPEAKER_08]: You ever heard of a singer called Wing?

[SPEAKER_06]: No, he's a Scandinavian.

[SPEAKER_08]: No, that's someone else.

[SPEAKER_08]: This is Wing.

[SPEAKER_06]: Who's the other one named person that wears feathers all the time?

[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, the one who wore your York.

[SPEAKER_08]: York.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_08]: You won't contours her with Wing.

[SPEAKER_08]: Here's Wing doing an early Beatles favorite Mike.

[SPEAKER_08]: Wait, she's a shock, okay, and I closed.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, just a taste of this because everyone loves this Shanner that you yourself In a boat on a river With tangerine trees a marmalade sky Somebody calls you and sir quite slowly really

[SPEAKER_06]: And it was the very beginning of Shatner poking fun in himself.

[SPEAKER_06]: Shatner getting the joke about his career.

[SPEAKER_06]: And really he became legendary.

[SPEAKER_06]: He's iconic because he's an example.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, many guys we used to have TV people come into the studio that hated the fact that they were associated with the series that they had done.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, Warner Clemver was on Colonel Plank.

[SPEAKER_06]: He could never ever accept the fact that he was known as Colonel Plank.

[SPEAKER_06]: Shatter embraced being Captain Kirk and he went on to bigger and better things and I think he's just a model for how to handle TV, so that was great.

[SPEAKER_08]: Two more real quick.

[SPEAKER_08]: Tony could learn a few things.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, Tony.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_08]: We'll talk about it over lunch at Witton.

[SPEAKER_08]: Tiny Tim, Mike.

[SPEAKER_06]: That's even high for Tiny Town.

[SPEAKER_04]: Can you, can I ask your favorite?

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, can you?

[SPEAKER_04]: Is there a way to start that again?

[SPEAKER_04]: Sure, you bet his mess up at the beginning.

[SPEAKER_04]: I love what they chose to keep that in.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's charming.

[SPEAKER_08]: Really reacts to his voice.

[SPEAKER_08]: Once again, Tiny Town.

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[SPEAKER_08]: I would say if there was any weakness to that performance is that it was under-orchestrated just him and the The ukulele our final clip does not have that problem.

[SPEAKER_08]: Okay, one of the greatest entertainers of the 20th century Really if you consider all 100 years Mike this is being crossed

[SPEAKER_08]: Thank you everybody.

[SPEAKER_08]: Those are the worst beetles covers ever.

[SPEAKER_08]: Have you ever heard of a guy named Gary Ridstrom?

[SPEAKER_08]: Nope.

[SPEAKER_08]: No, he has seven Academy Awards.

[SPEAKER_08]: He won two of them for working on Jurassic Park and he did an interview Revealing what he did to create the noises of dinosaurs.

[SPEAKER_08]: go out and record dinosaur.

[SPEAKER_06]: What comes to mind with jumps into my mind is being in the theater and that incredible shot of the glass of water.

[SPEAKER_06]: I love that vibrating with the T-rex.

[SPEAKER_06]: It was incredible.

[SPEAKER_05]: And Spielberg later explained that he got that idea because he had his car stereo turned up and whenever the base notes would hit on the subwoofer, he would see that vibration the water.

[SPEAKER_05]: He said, I got to use that for the dinosaur.

[SPEAKER_05]: From now on.

[SPEAKER_08]: It's a piece of subwoofer.

[SPEAKER_08]: That's a slow down donkey for the bros.

[SPEAKER_08]: I love this stuff.

[SPEAKER_05]: I like this, I love this stuff too.

[SPEAKER_08]: Now when the T-Rex growls, it's a Jack Russell Terrier playing with a toy, slow down.

[SPEAKER_08]: Little, little dog!

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I love that it's that simple.

[SPEAKER_04]: You know what's brilliant about it though, Riley.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's using it's organic.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's using other animals, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: So it doesn't sound like something other world.

[SPEAKER_06]: And I think as opposed to something that's computer-generated, that legitimately has the fear fact, because it is an animal, creating a scary sound.

[SPEAKER_08]: When the T-rex roared, it was a baby elephant trumpeting slowed down.

[SPEAKER_08]: Here's the T-rex roaring.

[SPEAKER_08]: And I love that he went with a baby elephant because I think it would be too low.

[SPEAKER_08]: It's growing up.

[SPEAKER_08]: All right.

[SPEAKER_08]: The last one.

[SPEAKER_08]: I love this, Rob.

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[SPEAKER_08]: So when they're communicating, he recorded at C-World two turtles having sex and incorporated a male dolphin in heat, so this is the sound of the velociraptor's talking.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's the turtle breaking through the shell.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_04]: That is so phenomenally wonderful.

[SPEAKER_08]: It was porn ever.

[SPEAKER_06]: I remember.

[SPEAKER_06]: You're good to go.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, and we close.

[SPEAKER_08]: I don't know if you know this.

[SPEAKER_08]: Do you know that Rihanna and Chris Brown have broken up?

[SPEAKER_08]: What?

[SPEAKER_08]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_08]: True.

[SPEAKER_08]: Good and covered it last night.

[SPEAKER_02]: Rihanna broke up with Chris Brown after she caught him cheating with a waitress.

[SPEAKER_02]: Rihanna said she knew something was up when Brown came home with another woman's lipstick on his knuckles.

[SPEAKER_08]: That's my, that is your magic audio vault.

[SPEAKER_00]: What more?

[SPEAKER_00]: Make sure you check out the Michael Marabona show.

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