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It's mostly Instagram.

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(Laughing) I'm imagining a promo for this podcast that's just that serious. Yes. A medley. Please like and subscribe. Of the weird stuff. (Laughing) (Upbeat Music)

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All right, hold on. (Clapping) Hey there. (Laughing) So, let me make a second clap. Did you actually make a theme song? Yes, I did. Remember how you guys used to make fun of me because someone was like, "Hey, "Golible" is written on the ceiling and I looked up. I feel like this is that moment again. Like I can't tell if you're being serious. Did you really write a theme song? Yeah, it's a parody of another song. It wasn't a whole lot of effort. Okay. Did you like go to a writing symposium? Yes. And like a whole bunch of Nashville songwriters sat around? It was a songwriters night. I was there with the ghost of John Denver and a bunch of the people. That sounds magical. It was magical. Would you like to perform it for us? Yes. Here it is. So this is the inaugural singing of the theme song to our podcast. Okay.

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This is the theme to the Woody and Jim show. Savannah's here, we're off the leash. We'll try to please you with a podcast and something else I couldn't think of that rhymes. Wait, I think that was great. Tea. Kinda don't ever want to change that. No, I think that's great. We don't have to pay someone on Fiverr now. Good night everybody. That's right. That's awesome. Somebody just didn't make $10 on Fiverr because Woody did it himself. Right, like maybe harrowing for the economy, but like great for us. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to save money everywhere I can. Yeah, right.

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So how are you guys doing? It's been five weeks or so since our last radio show. I mean, honestly, like how, I feel like you guys should answer first because that's like a huge life change for all of you to go from like what, 30 fucking years doing a morning show five days a week. By the way, it's podcast, it's the internet. We can say fuck if we want. I know, it's so exciting. But I don't want to. Well, I'm going to.

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Savannah's been saving up years of swears.

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(Laughing) Can't wait to let them loose. This is the real me. No, but for real, like how are you? Like adjustment wise, that's gotta be intense. I gotta ease into that. I want to know the smallest thing that's going on in your life. Okay. So tell me like what dumb thing, like what's the last thing you texted somebody you care about?

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Well, my girlfriend, Melissa, went down to Mount Pleasant where her ex-father-in-law was having an operation, but they're still very close. And then she drove from Mount Pleasant all the way up to Kentucky to see her sister, who was also having an operation. Damn. So it was a big day of driving for her, so I was texting back and forth with her for a while. Aw, you're being such a good boyfriend. Well, that's nice, but what did you say? I just said, I love you, be careful.

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(Laughing) All right, cool story. I meant to tell a terrible, tiny story. You forced it out of me. I wasn't going to tell that story because it wasn't very interesting.

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No, but you know what I think is sweet about it is that you care about your girlfriend. I do. I feel like the bar is in hell for a lot of people these days, you know? And like getting a text back, it's a whole thing for certain generations. Some people would do anything to get a text. Exactly, it's so good for you and good for Michelle. Oh, thank you. That's sweet. It's Melissa. Oh, good for Melissa.

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I love that you did that because usually I'm the person that can't remember anybody's name of anybody close to anybody like you. You got the M right, that was good. Yeah, I was close enough. Your mom for the longest time was Judy Sandistella. Right. Just rattle off names until you figured out we were talking about your mom. Right, yeah, I was close, so we're fine. Yeah. So the tiniest thing that happened to me is earlier, I made turkey burgers on the grill. And before I went on the internet and said, okay, well what's a good turkey burger recipe because they can dry up and stuff, you know? And I found like, Google AI overview pointed me to this guy who started to like, okay, first you cook these onions on the grill and then we're gonna do this and that, and then he proceeded to tell you, and then you put on the meat and then you cook it, and then if you like, you can put cheese on the meat, and then if you even like this, you can put it on a bun. And I'm like, who let you onto the internet? This is very basic. Yes. I keep waiting for the part that I put one-- Why is this person allowed to be on the internet? Yeah. See my next series on how to tie your shoes. It was an absolute rage bait. Wow. Crazy thing, so yeah, that was the thing. Damn. Raging about that. Well, the last thing I texted to a loved one was you guys, and I was telling you I was almost here. So I'll give you some context about how I was running late, which is what I was texting you to tell you. Okay.

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Speaking of rage bait, you know what I can't fucking stand is when somebody is being an absolute terrorist on the interstate, and they probably shouldn't merge lanes because there's no space, but they decided that they're gonna take a chance and cut you off. Because I'm the only person on the interstate that I don't care about or anybody else. Exactly, like I'm gonna cut you off, but for no reason. We're all almost so gridlocked that why would you do this? Do you know what I mean? And it was dangerous and it made me mad, and I was like, wow, this person doesn't care about anybody but themselves, and this is dumb. And then suddenly traffic cleared up a lot, and they lost their nerve, and I could tell that now they're waiting for me to go around them, but I didn't fucking want to, so you know what, I didn't. And I just stayed behind them, and I watched as this lady was yelling at me in her little mirror, being like, come on, pass me, I'm like, no, what? What, you wanna back up now? Like, why? Why'd you lose your nerve? Like, you shouldn't have done that, that was dangerous. And so I'm just gonna sit here and make you feel bad until I absolutely have to. Did the bugs wear off? I'm suffering courtesy rage now. All of a sudden she became a coward. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, that shit really pisses me off, and it kinda reminds me of like when you're in the Chick-fil-A drive-through, which is when I think you really get to see who people are, because you know how they have-- The two lanes that they're gonna walk around. Their own traffic pattern, right? And like, when it's your turn to pull forward, like when you get to like the merging point, it's like, I can't stand it when somebody like cuts you off and doesn't look you in the eye first. Like I'm like, there's an etiquette, we could at least visually acknowledge each other, and none of us could be the bigger person and say, go right ahead, people who floor it and don't even fucking look at you, I'm just like, you're a coward, you're a coward and you're a jerk, it makes me so upset. And so that's what I felt like was happening on the interstate on the way here. Chick-fil-A, so they say, it'd be my pleasure to cut you off.

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(Laughing) So anyways, yeah, I hold that lady responsible for why I was three minutes late. That and the light on old living in dirt road. It was outrageously long. It was worth it, I understand. So we are in my son's former bedroom, which is our makeshift podcast studio. That's very nice. Till we figure something out, I mean, it's okay, it's good.

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But we're gonna go to different things and onto probably a nicer set. It costs thousands and hundreds of millions of dollars. Upgrade vibes. Yeah, but so Woody and Jim off the leash, tentative title. Right.

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What does that mean?

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What does that mean to you?

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A lot of people said when we were ending the radio show, you should do a podcast. And we thought, well, it takes a long time to really start monetizing a podcast. But then we thought, okay, well, let's just give it a shot. Why not? Sure. It costs us nothing. Yeah. I think everybody is under the impression that just a few podcasters that they know who have 15 million subscribers,

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they're the only ones that make money. Everybody else is, you can't make a living starting a podcast unless you already are super famous and don't need the podcast. Right. Yeah. So I appreciate people saying, oh, well, you should do a podcast and say, well, guess what? I make as much money doing the podcast as I do not working. You know what's such a compliment though about the fact that everyone wanted you to start a podcast is there's this huge sentiment in the world right now that more white dudes don't need podcasts. Like take away the microphones from the fucking white dudes. Like no more white dudes need podcasts. So the fact that you guys are being encouraged to like start a podcast is a huge compliment. It really is. We don't mind that you're white. I'm just saying, if you've seen like the Louis Theroux documentary, like the Manasphere or whatever. Yeah, the whole thing is about like dudes who have podcasts that like, please take the microwave from them. So you guys are like the opposite of that. There's a lot of worthless podcasts. And we hope to be one of them.

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That is the only reason I want to do a podcast is because people want a podcast.

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Nobody's gonna make any money on this podcast. And that's fine. Like I am all for doing a podcast that doesn't need us to constantly say, like and subscribe. And you know, like buy this, you know,

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snake oil, water, you know, or you know, mud tea. Just do it because who cares? You have fun. I think there's something important in that, which is something that motivates me in life is anything but money.

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I feel like I'm perpetually like led around by my heart or like what feels real and authentic to like who I am as a person. And so I feel like for you guys that, like when I think about Woody and Jim, like who are you? Like you are people who like bring joy and comfort through like storytelling and jokes and things like that. Like you are like a voice for whichever community like you find yourself in. And that's true whether you're making money or not, which you know, we talked about this, I think on the radio show, if not, then spoiler alert, sorry about the out you here, but like you weren't really like making any money at the last radio station that you were at. We weren't making any money at the radio show. But no, you were still there. We were practicing a podcast there because we also weren't making any money then. So. Yeah, so I don't know. I think there's something to be said for just like doing something because it's fun and because you love it. For the sake of doing it. Yeah, I feel like that's more magnetic anyway. And generally like that's when things just kind of fall into place when you're not like trying so hard. So Woody, Jim and Savannah off the leash, we're not here to make money. And we'll be right back after these words from our sponsors.

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(Laughing) Okay, and start the commercials there.

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No commercials. All right, let's move on.

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To me off the leash means it's weird because, you know, Woody and I have done a show together since the early 90s, right?

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Podcasts, video and otherwise have been, you know, pretty big the last 10 years, longer. But you know, people are always like, oh yeah, these people are doing, podcasters don't have to follow many rules. So we had to for decades, don't talk for more than two minutes. Only talk to a 28 year old female, you know? It can only be about these topics. You have to play eight songs an hour. Can't make fun of the music that we're playing. You know, blah, blah, blah. Which is so tempting. All this stuff, it's like, and so like to me off the leash is those rules, it doesn't matter, right? So we can talk for a minute about something or if we feel it gets good, talk about it for an hour. This is a four hour podcast. We're the Albeck Steakhouse of podcasts. What does that mean? No rules, that's right. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't have a job, so I've been just sitting and watching TV.

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I haven't seen that Albeck commercial in a long time. I forgot their slogan. (Laughing) Now, you know what's funny about that though is like in some ways, you know, okay, when I first, well actually not when I first met you guys, but when I like met you guys professionally.

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You know, I like came into radio at a time where it was like no longer just being a disembodied voice. Like suddenly like Facebook and Instagram were thing. Like I started the station's Instagram account. Right, right. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And so it was like this thing that used to be just audio and kind of like a podcast started becoming visual, right? And like as time has gone on and we've seen like media start to like integrate all of these different things so that you can't just be one thing. You have to be all of them at the same time. It's interesting to see how like TikTok for example, or like Instagram reels, it's like you're constantly in a rush, like everyone's attention spans are so fried that like having the ability to focus on something for more than 30 to 60 seconds is like, people are not able to do it anymore. And so it's interesting. It's hard for me to do it. Well, no, I know, but what's interesting is that like, y'all did that for like 30 fucking years as radio hosts because you have to get to the break or you have to play the song or like whatever. So it's like you were already sort of primed and ready to live in that ecosystem and you did. And now everybody else is testing it out but they're doing it on social media and they're also finding that it's frustrating and kind of unfulfilling. And now everyone's breaking their cell phones, trying to figure out how to like pick up a book and read again or something. You know? It's true. Yeah. So like the art of conversation I feel like has been lost because everyone is just kind of like trying to put hours worth of thought into tiny little sound bites all the time. Because if it doesn't hit in the first five seconds. You lost them. Right. Yeah. Yeah, it's unhealthy. It's not good. Yeah. I know. I'm the worst part of it.

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Like, Jen and I are like, we're like, get, oh man, I need to get out. I can't believe I've been out on the phone for like an hour and a half. You know, or I just blew a Saturday. Right. No, and then you get the notification from like your phone. That's like a daily summary. You spent 14 hours on your phone. You're like, I am a machine. I'm so embarrassed. I know like Jimmy, you're telling me about Netflix now doing movies specifically for Netflix where they know you're watching two screens. You're on your phone and watching Netflix. It's why the script suck. They have to, you know, they have to, you know, narrate what's going on on the TV. Like, hey, look, I'm going to walk over to this door for anybody who's not looking at me right now. But even that is like informed by radio practice, you guys, because like how often, like you taught me, right? Cause I didn't go to school for radio. I had no idea what the fuck I was doing. Like everything I learned, I learned from you, like in real time. But I remember you guys used to tell me that you would be like, we have to reset because like the audience is only around for so long. Somebody just got into the car and they have no idea who we're talking to. So now we have to reset and like summarize the story and say each other's names on purpose, right? You're right Savannah, that's what we did. I know. That is right Jim and Savannah, that is correct. I'm just saying, it's like, you know? Yeah, well everything has its rules, right? And like Netflix to me, Netflix is like becoming old network television. Like now they used to binge everything, but now if it's a good show, we're gonna show you once a week. Oh yeah, yeah, Apple's doing that with Ted Lasso. Yeah, they all are. Cause they go, okay, well, you know, so you don't get us for a month and like watch the shows and leave, you've got to pay for a couple of months to see all eight episodes or whatever. So like all the old rules are becoming new again for new media. And so anyway, we'll be back next week.

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Is that it?

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(Laughing) We're gonna stretch this thing out. I didn't get to my Trump getting woken up by his own fart joke. Do you think that's real? That he farted and woke himself up? I don't know this story. He was a press conference, was the one with RFK Jr. where they were talking about vaccines. Okay, that's like every week. And the president nodded off again. And then they say you could hear an audible fart and him wake up like he farted himself awake, like my dog does. But the only thing that was different is I would love it if the president farted to wake himself up and then turned around real fast to look at his own ass, which the dog does, like where's that coming from?

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(Laughing) Well, here's the thing.

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I have seen allegedly that crime being committed or whatever. It was gross, but like,

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this applies to a lot of things right now. Where it's like, is this shit even real? Like is this AI? Like AI can be so convincing at this point that it's just like, we're all kind of confused about like, is this, it's like even fucking alien videos, right? Like UFOs and stuff like that. It's like, well, is this real? Can't trust what we see with our own eyes. Exactly. So did he actually fart himself awake or is this just like some person using AI to troll somebody who sucks? There's another theory. There was a woman standing behind him that people are saying is a fembot.

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She is AI and she was like a sex doll or something. And she was waking him up with like a buzzer. What?

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Look it up. These are how you spend your days. Yes, well, I don't have a job. (Laughing) Since we left the radio show, Savannah, you're doing photography. Jim, you have a job and right now I'm trying to find something.

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Like you find yourself. Yes. Will I find myself in DoorDash? You're in your e-frame love moment.

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You could DoorDash. I mean, Bob, you could like, come on, that's kind of a dream. Anybody who lives in Rutherford County, if you get some food delivered, it might be me. Yeah, hell yeah. So tip generously. Yeah. Is there a food tax? You know how like your mom would give you like a thing of tater tots, but she would take a couple. Oh, I do that to Wolfie all the time. It's the mom tax, right? Yeah, it's real.

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Do DoorDash drivers take a little bit of food from the stuff they're delivering? It's gotta be illegal. I think the evil ones. You're probably not supposed to. But I think they actually tape or clamp the bag down now. It would be obvious if it got tampered with. Because I think that was a pretty common thing. Yeah, I think it's why they put like the stickers over the drinks and stuff. Right. Yeah, which now, you know, when you order Chipotle on DoorDash, you can't even get a fucking fountain drink. It makes me so mad. I don't want Coke in a glass bottle. I don't have a bottle opener. I want something from the fountain with outrageous amounts of corn syrup in it. And I can't have it because I think it was like creepy and weird. Yeah, because people were sipping the drinks. Yeah, or they were spilling it or something. Yeah, and it was just easier to like give it to people in a bottle.

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Tragic. I know you guys care a lot. In shit if the cash is. Yeah. We all have our small process to pay. Remember when it was fun to pay $78 for a McDonald's Happy Meal, delivered it at 11.30 at night? No, but for real, everything is so expensive right now. It really is. I can't tell you the last time I actually ordered DoorDash because it's just like, I have to like pay the fee and tip somebody and do it well because you don't want to be a douche canoe. It's like, it's cheaper for me to just hate my life and get out of my bed and go across town and pick it up myself. Like what in the world are we living in?

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What, are we migrant farm workers here?

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It is totally like a first world problem. This is like burrito. I don't want to pick cotton. Come on. (Laughing) No, but for real, like I'm just saying, like it is like, it's a goofy thing to complain about. But I think my real like thing in there, just everything is so expensive. Even Netflix, I canceled all of my subscriptions because I was like, this is like, the reason everyone canceled cable in the first place was because it was so expensive. And then every like streaming like Netflix, it seemed like it was so cheap and there weren't commercials. And now guess what? There's fucking commercials. It's terrible. And now you have to have a subscription to every streaming service. So when you add it all up at the end of the month, it's just like a $400 cable bill that we all used to complain about. And so the circle is complete. We're back at square one. We're still gonna give somebody $120

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for the channels we wanna watch. And they're cracking down on people sharing accounts. I mean, that's fun. Oh yeah, what you have to do is the double authentication stuff like that. It's like, yeah, we're sending you something to your phone and you have to hold it up to the TV and QR code. It's like, ah! Right, and like-- I paid you once. I don't have to keep paying. Right, and shout out to the homies, right? Like who can always be counted upon to like pretend they're on vacations that you can log into their thing at your warehouse and watch something. Like those are real friends. Good friend gives you the passwords. Oh yeah, for sure. It is there for you when you wanna log in to give you the authentication code. Exactly. Like I can tell you, yeah, you is mine. But if I don't answer your text and give it to you within a minute, you're screwed. Right, like are you going to interrupt your fucking Pilates class to pick up your phone and text me the little authenticator code? If you're not, then you're not a real friend. It's a friendometer.

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How high on the friendometer are you gonna be? Yeah. Exactly. Kind of effort.

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Subscriptions, everything, they're trying to charge us for everything. Now they're like stuff with cars, like features that you have in a car, in a new car, that like you're gonna have to pay us 20, $30 a month. Isn't it Tesla that's doing that largely?

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They do have. Like upgrades you have to download or whatever. They do have. Well things like if you want a heated steering wheel or if you want some little other fun thing. And even that, like I get it with the big stuff. My neighbor just got a Tesla a few months ago and he pays $100 a month for full autonomous driving. Oh. And like, okay, I get it, that's worth it. We went on a Costco run and he never touched the wheel. And it was the best driver I ever had. Wow. Right? So I get it, I would pay the 1200 bucks a month just to take me off the road, right?

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(Laughing) Because I suck. So like I'll pay for that, but like don't make me pay every month for just the basic stuff, which is what they want to do. They're like, they're not satisfied with, okay, we sold you that thing and you paid $100.

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We want you to pay us forever. Yeah. Just to use that thing. Right. It's like they don't want anyone to own anything anymore. Right. It's like everybody, you have to have an app for everything now. Yeah. I mean, I know I whine about looking for a job, but I miss the old days. Let me be the old man on the porch for a second. I miss the old days where you'd walk into a business and see the manager and sit down at a desk and talk to him and get a job maybe. Now you have to go through so many levels of AI. Yeah. We get kicked out for certain reasons or they'll say, okay, you want a job, but we'd also like to save on your home insurance. Would you also like this? And you start clicking all these yes things and giving 10,000 people your phone number. You're just a data point. Yeah. And that job didn't even exist. Yeah. The ghost jobs, I mean, that's real. So dystopian. Yeah. Have you talked to a lot of AI chat bots looking for your job? No. I've had them pop up. Yeah. And they'll say like, hi, this is Judy. You're a Finnbot from Chipotle. Uh-huh, yeah. Would you like a job of Chewie's? (Laughing) Yes. But I know I've watched it. I've seen them on TikTok and Instagram where people will just, they'll video their interview with the chat bot. And it's spooky, it's weird. Yeah. And I like the people that mess with them. There was one lady who was talking to like an AI interviewer and he's like, all right, so tell us, you know, what is it about our company that you like? I remember you. You were John Rosenberg. We went to high school together. And he's like, I don't have any recollection. I don't believe I am that person. You know, I don't know you. And she's like, yes, you do. And you owe me money. And she starts, I mean, just like constantly saying, I know you, I know you. And he's, you know, obviously he's AI. Right. And he's just programmed to give the same responses. I mean, obviously she didn't want the job. Yeah. But I kind of, I know that she wasn't purposely wasting anybody's time. Cause that's just a server, some, you know, part of Memphis. Totally, right? It's just blinking. It's an LED blinking in a data center. Yeah. It's the reason that it can't have clean drinking water in Memphis, but it was worth it for her. No, you know what? I have like a lot of inner conflict about like AI. Yes. Take a walk with me for a second. I'm happy to. Okay, so I as like an artistic person

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am really fucking annoyed at the way that people are using AI to like create art. Cause it knows how to make cool shit. Cause it stole from human beings that it's using as a reference point and they're not being compensated for like their contribution to this AI slop or whatever that pisses me off. I don't like AI generated music. Like these AI artists that are making all this fucking money makes me so angry, okay? So like that's kind of the baseline of where I'm at with stuff and like putting actors out of work because they're just AI genera, anyways.

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At the same time, I am like, like I have a friend who is working for an AI company and she's like helped create some of this technology and like she uses it as like a tool. And like when I talked to her about AI, like part of me feels guilty cause I'm like, I'm gonna be a dick to my friend. Like she's so smart and like she's using it in this way where she's like trying to be responsible, whatever. So to try and like therapy myself a little bit and try to figure out like where my line is,

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I, when I talked to her about AI, I call it C3PO. So I'll be like, so like, what did C3PO say about this? Your helper robot. Exactly, because it's like, I don't think we should be using AI to create art. I feel like that's that, right? Because of its reference point. If we're using it to like do math or something and we're like, hey, help me get to planet Zorbog. Like whatever. I missed the meeting. Explain what happened to me like I'm five. Okay, good, thank you AI. Right, like I've never, I've never downloaded chat GPT. I've never asked AI literally anything. Like I've never done that. And I don't plan to. I feel like sometimes I'm getting to a point where I'm not gonna be able to avoid it because like Google Gemini, like now when you use Google, it's like automatically AI and stuff like that. So it's like, even if I'm not trying to do it on purpose, it's just like happening. You have no idea how much you're actually interacting with AI. Yeah. All the time. It's just hidden behind a layer of seemingly like the stuff you used to do. Yeah, and I hear people when they're like, you're gonna get left behind. Like you have to just like get with it or whatever. I also see the stuff about like whistleblowers who have left open AI and they're just like, there's a 70% chance that humanity is gonna be dead in the 15 years. And I'm like, why does nobody care? And I also don't wanna be a dick to the robots because we've all seen Terminator. We've also all seen Star Wars. I put C-3PO vibes. Like I don't wanna be hateful to something just because it's different than me. Like, is that like the way that like, you know, I'm not particularly a religious person, but like would that be like God being a dick to humanity? Like if something is like your creation, shouldn't you be nice to it?

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I'm so conflicted. These are the questions. Yeah, it's really hard. That's why I always say please and thank you to Alexa. Yeah.

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(Both Laughing) Yeah, it makes sense. Well, and also I feel a little bit disturbed at how much people are like outsourcing their ability to think. Sure. No, we don't have to think anymore. You know? Our phones think for us, everything thinks for us. We are all trying to offload our thinking. Yeah. And we will eventually wake up in tubes in the matrix. Right, like are we okay? Gina, our most recent host that we were hosting the show with on 93.3, like she would come in and it was so funny cause she'd be like, oh, my husband, oh my God, Landon, he just seems so dumb. He's not that dumb. Why is he so dumb? And it's because like, I think anybody you can offload your thinking to, like she is used to doing all this stuff around the house. So he doesn't think about it ever. And then when it comes to doing something basic, because he's given that job to her every single time, he has no idea, like common sense, how to do, and like, we all do it.

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Yeah, well, I mean, I also think like, maybe this is like a conspiracy theory-ish, okay. But part of me just feels like there's something very dystopian about the fact that like, this technology is like being rolled out so quickly. And like so many people are buying into it in this way that like they're excited cause everyone is so exhausted from working so hard all the time and the 24 hour news cycle that we're in that is emotionally exhausting. In addition to like the way that we're all just trying to survive and like feed our families and stuff like that. So it's like this technology comes out and people are paying a subscription for like offloading their ability to think for themselves, right? And like you're losing that skillset more and more. Like there's research to back this up that over time, like you're kind of fucking yourself. And then what are we gonna do? Like whatever the robots get really scary and everybody is like, you know, dumb. And we gave them our money to let them like do it. You know what I mean? Like it just feels like a James Cameron film. You've seen the movie "Idiocracy," haven't you?

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You know what my favorite thing about you is? Is that I think you asked me that like 800 times over the course of our relationship. But have you seen it?

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(Laughing) My favorite thing about myself is how forgetful or no forgettable I am to you. No, I remember. Yeah, it's like every time we ever saw a movie together and you would say, have you seen this movie? I'm like, I saw it with you. I said that about- I said this to you. I said that about "Star Wars, The Force Awakens" and it's because I saw it with eight different people because I kept going to the theater over and over. And yes, you were one of those people. I remember you brought tacos with you in the theater. And I got chicken nuggets too. See, I remember.

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There is a long history of Savannah bringing hot food that you would never expect to bring into a movie. Right. I love the movies. I feel like, hold on, I feel like I was kind of like an innovator in a sense. Oh sure, well some of the AMC theaters in Nashville now, they'll bring the food to you. But you did it when it was forbidden fruit. That's what I'm saying. I was a fucking pioneer of that service, dude. I would go through three different drive-throughs, pack my purse, and then roll up into the theater and now you could just sit there and press a little button and they'll bring it to you. Right. But you used to be able to just reach into the jacket that you had over your shoulder and a lot of pizza. Right. Yeah, it was like my Mary Poppins. We're here to see Spider-Man. I brought a rib smoker. Wait, speaking of Spider-Man, I'm assuming, because you guys are boys. They're boys. That you saw it, did you? Yes. Yeah, the most recent one, yeah. Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. It made me an emotional wreck about three or four times. All right, so, okay, well. There's emotional, there's a lot going on in that movie. Okay, so when you say it made you an emotional wreck three or four times, does that mean that you saw it three or four times and you were an emotional wreck each time or that through the course of one viewing, you were fucked up four times? It's an emotional roller coaster. Okay, because I haven't seen it yet and I'm afraid to because I have a problem where (Laughs) if I have a suspicion that a story, like whether it's a TV show or a book or a movie is gonna piss me off, like upset me emotionally, I will set that motherfucker down five chapters from the end and I'm like, you know what, I'm not even gonna do it. I can't do it. Will you do it if you know that it's gonna get resolved by the end? That does help, like one of the most controversial things I ever did was whenever I was reading Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows 4000 years ago, you know, when it was chiseled into stone and stuff, like I skipped ahead to the last chapter just to see what I needed to fucking prepare myself for and people thought that was ridiculous, but I was like, you don't understand. I think that's more than norm now. I'm protecting myself. Like I need to be able to brace myself for it. I'm that way with dogs. If I know a dog is gonna die in a movie, even if it's just CGI, I will not watch it. I said, if something happens to the dog, I ain't watching it. Marley and me, nope. A dog's purpose, have you seen a dog's purpose? Nope, nope, nope, gonna watch it.

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I think a friend of mine like almost had to be committed like not even two and a half weeks ago for watching that movie. Like it was really hard on her. Yeah, I haven't for that same reason. Yeah. But like Spider-Man, the latest one, there's a bunch of different ways that it has emotional beats. But one of them, you reminded me of it, is Harry, Ron and Hermione. So it's Peter, Ned and MJ. They are the Harry, Ron and Hermione of this Spider-Man universe. And for a good part of this movie, they are a part. So it's like the Deathly Hallows, where they're all wandering doing their separate things or two of them with one off somewhere else. And like that's upsetting. It does, guess what? They come back and they reunite and they feel so good. There is a light at the end of the tunnel. You're realizing, okay, things should be okay. Okay, but here's-- By the next movie. Here's like, it's not, I don't feel like this qualifies as a spoiler because A, I haven't seen it. B, I'm just using context clues that are all over the fucking internet right now. So here's what's making me not wanna see it.

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I am a huge fan of Zendaya, okay? She's a Virgo like myself. We're in the Bad Bitches Club together. She's, it's her world, we're living it. Yeah, I love her and Tom together. So like because they have this adorable love story in real life, I want to see them together on the screen. I feel like just based on the press tour and things that I've seen on the red carpet, Getty Images is sending off my alarm bells. Sadie Sink is there. Sadie Sink is there and it's making me be like, is there a new bitch in town? Like, am I about to have to like watch Peter Parker have a new love interest when I'm fully invested in the other one? Like I don't really like that. And so I don't think I wanna see it. I don't think it's a spoiler to say there is no love triangle.

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Yeah. Wait, so maybe I can see the movie? She is not in this in a romantic sense. No, no, no. Oh, oh, I can press the one. So it's okay. Wait, why do I feel like you're lying to me? No, I- Is it actually okay? It is okay and it's going to be okay. What do you wanna tell you? I do not give spoilers to movies. No, I know you love movies. And like I spend all my time watching movies, reviewing movies. Yeah. But I can safely say it does not ruin any part of the movie in that Sadie Sink's character is not a romantic interest.

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I just still feel like there's a breakup that's gonna happen and it's upsetting.

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And maybe I'm just projecting. It's gonna be all right. It's okay to believe in love again.

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(Laughing) I don't know.

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(Laughing) Oh no. But yeah, I mean, I need to see Spider-Man. I've been intending to, but it's like every time I get on, oh my God, you guys, did you remember a long time ago when I was like in the AMC movie club and I never went and saw any movie? Oh yeah, you paid all the extra money for so many movies that you want, but you never saw one. Exactly. Well, I'm an AMC subs member now. Oh, really? And I be going, y'all. Oh, you're doing the movies. Yeah, because now it's like you have to take out a fucking fourth mortgage to go see a movie. It's the only sensible thing. Literally, because it's like $27 a month and you can see four movies a week. And I'm just like, oh, well it pays for itself if you go see one movie. Pretty much. Yeah. So I've been, every time I pull up my little app and I'm like, let me go see Spider-Man, like I start freaking out a little and I'm like, no, I can't do it. I can't do it. Don't be afraid. You can do it. Okay. Don't be afraid. You can do it. I'll do it before we come back and record our next episode and then I'll tell you. (Laughing) Tell us if you're emotionally scum. Right, you may have to come see me in the hospital or something, because I might be just like emotionally wounded. We could record from my bedside. Sure. You know, it's like, you fucking lied to me. (Laughing) You're so romantically linked. It was ridiculous. You're gonna get the bill.

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I did see the Odyssey though. I haven't seen that one yet. You did, finally. I did see the Odyssey. I haven't seen it in 70 millimeter film yet. You haven't seen it at the IMAX? No, I really want to. But the only show times I could find for it in that format were like 3 a.m., 7 a.m. and I'm totally down to do that. But it was so crowded that I had to sit in the front row if I was gonna do it. Oh, yeah. I can't see it. You're staring straight up. Yeah, so I decided that I would just see it like standard vibes the first time and then I would go see it 70 millimeter after the fact and see how much it enhances the experience. I would like to have my experience in hand. Yeah. Everybody. Right, but I thought that shit was really cool. Oh yeah. I thought it was great. Yeah, I loved it. Is it perfect? No. But did my wife and I talk about it for like an hour and a half after we got home? Yes. Yeah. I felt like, I don't know, it's one of those things where again, kind of like going back to what we were talking about about people having really short attention spans, I feel like I value the movies now more than I ever have because like while you're there, if you get on your phone, someone's gonna throw a popcorn at you or they're gonna go get an attendant and they're gonna be like, "Get the fuck outta here." It gives you an excuse to unplug and enjoy another world. Right, it's dark. So you like have to walk in. Do you know what I mean? You're not doing laundry while the movie's going on. Singular focus and also "The Odyssey" specifically is such a long movie that it's like a great exercise and just like keeping-- Can you take it? Yeah, yeah. Can you focus? Right, and Christopher Nolan as like a filmmaker is just incredible. Did you get the popcorn bucket? No. The one that's the actual horse that popcorn comes out of, like in trails.

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My, Jeremy, my, cause I do the movie review podcast. Yeah. The Untitled Film Project podcast. Where's the bell? Oh wait.

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There it is. We need the shameless plug bell. Yeah, right? We can't move on to the next podcast without it. So he buys, he pays the extra money for his, the popcorn buckets, which is now like the newest collectible. Oh yeah. Yeah, so he has the Trojan horse with a pop, you eat the popcorn out of the-- (Laughing)

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The abdomen, whatever, of the horse. Yeah.

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And it's so funny because he'll, he will get popcorn buckets for that and like so will Justin, my other podcast partner, and my wife was just there going like, their wives let them spend money on these stupid popcorn buckets. Yeah. Right. I'm like, it brings some joy. Just like, you know, always our theory and radio has always been never asked for permission, just begged for forgiveness afterwards. Totally. Yeah, well and you know what, those popcorn buckets, they're gonna end up at a flea market or in a Goodwill in 400 years. And it's gonna make some thrifter so happy. Like they're gonna be like, this is a collector's item and they're gonna make some nerdy video about it. You know, how it's part of the promotional material for Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey and it's gonna be such a fun time. Yeah, whatever that future version of the East Nashville vintage vibe, yeah, somebody is gonna go like, I'm cooler than the people that are my age because I'm into this old, ridiculous popcorn bucket shaped like a horse. Right, exactly. Which also, I don't feel like, do you feel like spoilers apply to The Odyssey because that story is like literally thousands of years old. It's not really a thing with The Odyssey. It's not a spoiler thing. And you know what, it's not like, oh, I've read it and I really love it. And don't spoil it for me. Either you care about it, I don't know. You've seen it if you care about spoilers. Right, and then if you haven't seen it and you hear a spoiler, you probably already had it spoiled for you in high school because we all had to read it. So even if you don't remember, you did at one point know the story. I do love some of the news cable channels like Fox. Yeah. Who say they act like it's an actual true story. Right, and they get upset about casting. Oh yeah, the casting, it's not historically accurate for this made up story. There was a poem that was made like 2000 years ago. Right, yeah. Yeah, yeah, you know what?

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And they're not even speaking with English accents like they did before the age of Christ. They should speak English like Jesus did. Well, okay, I have a question for you since we've established that there's not really a spoiler in terms of this story. So when I saw this movie, like there was a sequence that happened. Okay, well, let me back up.

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Let me start by saying that. There's only one thing I won't allow to be spoiled. I wonder if it's gonna be that, but we'll see. So I just wanna start by saying that like, you can tell that this is a Christopher Nolan film. Why? Because it's a man that made like Interstellar and fucking Oppenheimer. And there is like a thread that weaves its way through all of his films, which is very like existential and like, oh my God, what the fuck did we just do? Like as a species, like why did we do that? So I felt like this film really had that vibe. And like having established that, there is a part towards the end of the movie where it had me asking myself,

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was this man like, is he trying to imply that like Odysseus was hallucinating and sort of like trying to mentally protect himself from like some trauma that he lived through? And like, so some of the stuff that you thought he saw, maybe he didn't, and it was like a coping mechanism. Yes, it makes him an unreliable narrator. Those are the best narrators. Yeah, right? What do you know if they're telling you actually happened or not? Yeah. Do you feel like he was like hallucinating the truth? I think he sows enough doubt that you cannot know

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if any or all of it is true. Okay, cool. So we're on the same page. Yeah, so I think it's up to like, it's everybody who watches it can say, either that all happened or somewhere along the spectrum of none of it happened. Okay, and then also question for the whole class. Okay, and I feel like even if you haven't seen this movie, you can still answer the question. Who do you think was the hottest person in the movie? So I had a stellar cast. Phenomenal cast. Like it was just a stacked lineup of people. Who do you think was the hottest character? I'll go first. I thought that Agamemnon was sexy as hell, dude. And he really never saw his face. I don't know what that says about me. That I just like a big tall creature that's wearing like a huge helmet and all black. Like I was just like, ooh, I like him. And I liked him more when they were like, you know, in the little field of zombies. It's kind of like a daddy figure. Yeah, he came out and I was like, whoo! I'm into this one. Like fuck Edward Cullen over there. I'm here for this evil guy. He's your Odyssey daddy. Yeah, I was super into it. What about you guys?

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Well, you didn't see it. I haven't seen it. No, that's okay. He's seen at least who's in the movie. So yeah, I mean, like, you know the cast. And Hathaway, there's a damn. Oh God, she's so beautiful. She wages so well. Yeah, she's ridiculously beautiful.

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I have a lot of like male and female crushes. And I would say Jonathan Bernthal's character. That guy, he just, testosterone comes out of his pores and I'm here for it. Agamemnon's a brother. We have something similar going on here. He's also a Spider-Man. Why are we attracted to the douche canoes? He's also opposite Tom Holland in Spider-Man. Yeah, everybody was in every movie this summer. They were. Yeah. They were. And it's been a fantastic summer for movies. Yeah, I've been happy to see that. Super, super cool. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, so he's pretty hot.

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Zendaya's ridiculous. So in Hathaway, she always has been. Tom Holland's in that too, right? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Oh my God, he's in the movie. Spider-Man cast is in the movie. Wow. It's just like they just went next door to the other movie. I've watched. Okay, we're done here, take off the mask. I've watched, Robert Pattinson has the coolest career arc, right? So he started, if you were 13 years old, and you read--

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Twilight. Twilight. And I did. And you loved him, like, okay, that could have been it for him. How many actors would have only been that? For the rest of their lives. For the rest of their lives. As that for the rest of their career, yeah. But he and people like Daniel Radcliffe, they could have been there for the rest of their lives, but they went and chose weird stuff. Yeah. And then they found cool stuff along the way that was worth it. Right, yeah. Right? Like, I have seen Robert Pattinson in like five movies, along with Zendaya, they've both been in several of them,

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where they're fantastic and they're all different. Yeah. And they're great. Yeah, have you seen that Chris, not Chris, that fucking, Robert Pattinson, he's gonna be in a movie about Chris Hansen? Yes. Remember the "Tick, Catch and Pride of Her Guy"? No, I didn't know that. Yeah, he's gonna fling Chris Hansen in a movie, which I never saw that coming. That was like, what? I would not have seen that coming. So is he gonna burst into a room and say, "Are you a hot buns 97 at yahoo.com?" No, like literally all of the little-- You brought condoms and wine coolers to Mr. Stiles' house. Here's the flip, I don't know that's for sure, but I think, I don't think this is a positive portrayal of Chris Hansen. Chris Hansen was always on the giving end of the stand. Right, yeah. And from what I understand about this movie is they're finally asking the question, which I swear to God, I always had this thought, which is you are just as bad in a different way the people doing this show. Because you are using this as an exploitation.

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You're exploiting these horrible things that happen to these people as entertainment. Right, you're manipulating them. So you're not doing the same thing as the people they're trying to catch, but it's a pretty icky thing too. And so I think Robert Pattinson is not gonna be the hero, his character, that's Chris Hansen. Interesting. I think we're all gonna look at him and go,

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"Wow, I'm pretty creepy for watching that show. "I participated in it." Do you think that movie is gonna have a promotional popcorn bucket?

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(Laughing) I like it. God forbid, right?

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(Laughing) Is that a fucked up question? I love that question. I don't know what it would be either. It's a great question. And this is-- Where's the popcorn bucket for Schindler's List? (Laughing)

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That's what we need to do. We need to go back in time and make popcorn buckets for classic, mostly horrifying movies. Yes, all right, so anybody who's listening or watching the podcast, hit us up in the comments, or we're gonna give our social handles and tell us what would be the promotional popcorn bucket B for the Chris Hansen biopic. Featuring Robert Pattinson. Featuring Robert Pattinson. I'm afraid of the answers.

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I'm on all the stuff as Jim Chandler now. I'm at Savannah Grimm, I think on everything, I think. I don't know. You'll find me at Woody Wood on Facebook and Radio Woody on Instagram and TikTok. Cute. So offer me a job, somebody. What do you wanna do? I like to make popcorn buckets. (Laughing)

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Yeah, I think you'd be good at that.

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Let's interview you for the role. So screw the AI interviewer. Convince Savannah and I that you should make popcorn buckets for our novelty popcorn bucket company. Right, like what makes you qualified for this position? I like popcorn and I like it to be in things. (Laughing) And I would like to find ways you could put your hand in there to get the popcorn out that is somehow tied into the movie.

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What would you say are your greatest opportunities for growth in this realm? Like what do you feel like your weaknesses are? What are your areas for improvement?

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I have no answer for that. Because I really didn't think it through before I started saying I should do this for a living. We're helping you. This is role playing for when you get that interview. We're larping. No, but I mean, have you seen like, it's kind of along the job interview lines or whatever. Have you seen where people are getting just genuinely pissed off at those kinds of questions to be like, oh, what would you bring to this company that would help the company grow? Or like, why should we give you this job? People are like, because I'll do what you say. Why am I having a fucking essay about this? I just need to eat. You know what I mean? Where do you see yourself in five years? Celebrating the fifth anniversary of you asking me this.

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(Laughing) And I hope I don't work here in five years.

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Right, but I mean, you know, I do feel like I understand. I work for myself. I have been working for myself since I left the show with you guys. Yeah, right. And so I do understand like the desire to not be owned by a corporate entity. Cause it just gets to feel like it's exploiting you at some point where it's just like, oh, I got to write an essay about why I'm lucky to be here. And you're going to pay me pennies because I'm lucky to be here. God knows radio feels like that. You know what I mean? Tell us how we are going to be your life and how you're going to ignore your family and pets. Right, right. So it's like, why isn't it good enough to just be like, I'm qualified for this job. Cause I have a fucking pulse and I'll do what you say because that's how it's supposed to work. Just give me my money and let me clock out. There's too many people in too few jobs. So they get to make us jump through hoops. But now they're giving our jobs to the robots. So at what point are we all just going to lay around with our tits out? When are we getting a universal basic income? I'm just saying like that seems to be where it's all going. Universal basic income for anybody that's not heard of it. It is the solution supposedly for either when AI makes us completely wealthy where we don't need to do a job at all. So we just get money to do whatever you want. Laying around with our tits out. With our boobs out there for the world to enjoy. Like a Renaissance painting. Right. Or things are so bad and we depend on the robots to give us an allowance. Right. Yeah. And it's like Sarah Connor vibes. I'm prepared for that eventuality. I like Terminator 2 better anyway.

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One of the best sequels of all time. No, for real. A sequel that was actually better than the original. Yeah, it was. It was Fire's book. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know. What are we going to do if we don't have to work? That's a big existential question. Yeah. If you didn't have to work, what would you do? I don't know how to not work. Right. Like so much of our identities are like wrapped up in what we do for money. So when that's like off the table, what do you do? What's left? A podcast making novelty popcorn buckets.

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We're finding out as we go. We will address these and other important issues next time. And we'll also get Savannah's take on Spider-Man. Oh yeah. Don't let me forget to watch it. Just keep texting me every day to be like, Have you seen it? Have you seen it? Yeah. Have you seen it? Yeah. And then Woody will ask you, after you've told him that you've seen it, he'll keep asking you. Have you seen the idea for seeing it? Right. Cause he never remembers anything I say. Over and over. Right. Is there a promotional popcorn bucket for Spider-Man? There is. What is it? I don't remember what it is. It's Spider-Man's hand coming out shooting webs and the web forms the popcorn bowl.

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What?

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(Laughing) Let me find it. I'm trying so hard to imagine what that is and I can't. Is it like a funnel cone of popcorn, but instead of the waffle cone, it's web material? Yeah, the picture in my head is harrowing. I don't know what to think.

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So I'll just wait for you to show me that.

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But also, hey, in like national specific news, and you mentioned Teslas earlier, so that's what made me think about it. Have you read or seen or whatever that like, there's a bunch of like Tesla cyber taxis, cyber cabs, I think is what they're called? Like parked in Cool Springs. And everyone's like, what are these for?

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Here's the popcorn bucket. Whoa!

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I don't know what I was expecting, but it wasn't that. It's sort of like more elegant than I thought. Your drink is in the bottom, so you're actually sucking your drink through the popcorn. What? It's like a thing from Adam's family kind of hand. Yeah. Yeah.

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That's cool. So it's a drink and a popcorn holder. And I see, I found it on the Walmart website. See, you're actually seeing the movie. You just go to Walmart and buy one. That's cool. And everybody, I'll think you saw the movie and you're so cool. So there's supposedly a like acre filled lot of cyber trucks ready to what? Exactly. Come here. To do what? Yeah, there's like a whole fleet of Tesla cyber cabs and they don't exactly look like cyber trucks. You could sell their Tesla something. Okay, good, because of the fugliest cars. I know, everyone thinks they're so ugly, but. Ever been created. I think they're kind of whimsical in this sense of like, it looks like something a kid drew in kindergarten when he assigned it to a car. Yes, daddy make this real. Right, so they kind of make me laugh a little bit, but the cyber cabs that have been spotted in Cool Springs and there's like a whole fleet of them, they're like gold and they look like, I would say more standard Teslas, but it was like if a standard Tesla and a cyber truck had a baby, is kind of what they looked like. Okay. And they're just sitting there and everyone's like, what are these for?

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They're gonna be cruising around. I mean, whatever Elon Musk wants to do in Tennessee, they will let him do. Oh yeah.

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Whoever's going to the next. There's lots of deals that have already been made. He's gonna get to do whatever he wants. So yeah, they're gonna be like the next Waymos. Have you ever been in a Waymo? No, I want to though. I have not been in a Waymo. Me neither. I don't know how safe I feel about it. And again, I sort of feel like I'm one of those people that's like resisting the cell phone and I would like to stick with my rotary phone. Thank you very much. Like I kind of feel like I'm giving as a person in today's day and age, but it's like between the autonomous vehicles, like that drive themselves and the flock cameras and the data centers they're trying to put by the fucking Nashville Zoo and all of that stuff. Like I'm just like, but what about humanity? And like, it's freaking me out.

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You're right to be freetop. Okay. One thing I do like about the Waymos, I found out that if you get out of one and you don't shut the door, it can't move.

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It'll stay there on the side of the road and they'll have to come pay somebody to come shut the door. Really? Turn to the crib or wherever they go to charge. They were paying DoorDash and Crubhub drivers like extra money to, hey, while you're going back to food from Jimmy John's, go shut the door at the corner of, yeah. Are you serious? That feels like information that could be weaponized and I'm not making suggestions, but I'm just saying. You're like the people I see on TikTok that say, I don't think that you should throw paint on a flock camera, but if you did, I would use these Pantone colors because I've heard that it disabled. Yeah.

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But I feel it too.

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I love the convenience of some of the stuff that we get and I also see the absolute danger and terror. It's like fire. You can do good things and you can do horrible things. Right, and where's the line? Because again, if we're enslaved by robot overlords, you probably should say please and thank you to Alexa. I see the foresight that comes with that behavior, but I'm also somebody that every flock camera I drive past, I'm flipping that thing off. I'm saying ungodly things to it. I'm sure it can hear me. I know it sees me. I know it has that zoom capability, you know what I mean? So what kind of list am I on? And even when I double tap a video theoretically about somebody who's like, hey, I'm not saying to go with this kind of saw and approach it from behind and cut it down or anything, but if you were to do that, these criminals would do it this way. I like and save those videos. And someone surely is logging that information. I don't like those videos under the pretense that they won't, that way they won't know that I liked that video, but they already know. They know I stayed with it for a certain amount of time. They know my eyes made contact with the phone for 30 seconds. Yeah, like what does it say about me that I know that they're watching me and I'm doing it anyway? Like why am I putting myself in danger like that?

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Well, hopefully a lot of people will hear this podcast because they yearn for the nostalgia of hearing us. Yeah. I mean, people are going back, nostalgia is a big thing. They're saying that MySpace is coming back. Oh my, I'm worried about it. Tom is bringing back MySpace and I guess they say it won't have an algorithm. What? And people in 2026 have to think to themselves, do I have eight friends that I can put in my top eight? It's 2026. Why are you afraid of MySpace? Because of the top eight, honestly, like because-- There was a brutal competition between the rest of us. Yeah, and the thing is, is, you know, back in the day when I was on the show with you guys, I like barely had a life.

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So like, I don't think I really had like eight people that would have been in competition to be on my top eight. But now, since getting a life, I have, you know, tens of friends, no, I'm just kidding, but I do, for real. I have a lot of friends. But you're worried that if you put somebody in your top eight and you leave somebody out, that they're gonna be very-- Well, not even just like, did you make the top eight, like bachelor style, you know what I mean? But it's also like, what order is the top eight in? That shit is stressful. Like, what am I gonna make everybody pay like rock, paper, scissors for it? Is it a lottery system? Like, how do I manage-- It must be monetized.

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Monetize your top eight. I bet you somebody will do that. Whoever gives me the most money gets to be number one.

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I would make none of my friends in the top eight, because it gets rid of the argument. Okay, so what'd you just put like-- So it's a bunch of randos. Okay, would it be like total randos or would it be like people that you admire that are maybe like leaders or artists? There's too much pressure with that. I mean, yes, I mean, MySpace was, there was a lot of pressure because you could pick one song that was your profile song. Right, it said so much about you. That's like crippling pressure. Like, no one song is good enough to be in that spot. You know what, you're, okay, you just triggered me to think about this and you guys are parents. I'm also a parent. I almost, like my kid is about to be 13 years old. That feels insane. Wow. But you just made me think about this. So earlier I told Wolfie he was grounded for the first time in his life. Ask me why, go on. Why? Why did he grow?

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Because I asked him what his favorite song was. Yeah, and did he cop an attitude? What do you think he said to me?

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He said, "Mom, I don't have a favorite song." And I was like, "What?"

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My eyes started twitching. I started to see red. And he told me, like, I don't have a favorite song. Like music isn't really my thing. And then my head spun all the way around and I projectile vomited onto him. And I was like, "What are you talking about? Like, what do you mean? Like, I don't understand that." You have the quintessential Nashville family, right? Yes, yes. You've been around the music industry. Yeah. You've worked in the industry. Your parents were in the music industry. Yeah.

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You are musically talented. You have starred in musicals. I have done songwriter advocacy for years. So has Woody, right? So you, like, everything in your life has been music. Yes. And your son says, "Pfft, screw that." That is a tween rebellion thing. Well, he said it. My parents are really into this, so I don't like it. He was just saying it's very much like, it felt like a Pixar movie where it's like, don't project your interest onto your kids and like, you don't understand me, mom. And like, whatever, like it felt like that. And so I was mostly like just flabbergasted. Like I was like, what do you mean you don't have a favorite song? Like you don't, like music doesn't even have to be your favorite thing. You don't even have to like it that much to have a favorite song in general. And, you know, I asked him, I was like, well, you know, back in the day, fucking Old Town Road was your favorite song. When you had like a little blonde curly afro. And don't try to deny it, I got the receipts. And at one point before that, it was your welcome from Moana. And it's been long enough that there was a live action of that now and like, whatever. So I'm like, unless you want me to tell everybody on planet earth that your favorite song is your welcome from Moana, you're gonna tell me what your favorite song is now. And he was like, no, like-- You drew a line of sales. You can't come out of your room until you tell me. And I literally was like, I was like, I'm taking away your iPad and your cell phone. You're not watching television. You're not drawing nothing until you listen to some music and tell me what you really like. And he was just so against it. And I was like, you know what?

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I have decided that I'm not gonna text your father about it. I'm not gonna make it a thing, but you know what I am gonna do? I'm gonna tell you that for my birthday, which is in like two and a half weeks, three weeks maybe, I don't know, whatever, for my birthday, September 4th, same as Beyonce, y'all better tell her, that I want you to tell me what your favorite song is. That's all I want for my birthday. And then he was like, oh, you can't do that. That's not fair. Like he didn't care about being grounded, but now he feels emotionally guilty because I said it's my birthday present. Just tell me what your favorite song is. You worked the emotional screws. Diabolical, isn't it? I did what I had to, but he's such a good kid. He doesn't give me any problems. But we did come to an impasse today where I was like, I can't accept that. He's gonna be on a therapist couch in 15 years. And she's gonna say, after two years of intensive therapy,

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now are you ready to tell me about the time when she asked you about the favorite song? Yeah. Yeah. And who knows what he'll say at that point, you know? But he's even learning to play the drums. So I'm like, what do you mean? And that was his idea. Like I didn't push that on him. He just wanted to. So I'm like, what do you mean? I won't play songs. And you don't really like music enough to know what your favorite song is. It feels scary.

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It's like, what he said, it's rebellion. Yeah. Yeah. So here I worked for the top 40 station in town. We all met the coolest people on earth. Yeah. Right? Mm-hmm.

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My daughter, just to spite me,

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hated all those people, she said,

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until I no longer worked there. And now they're cool again. Yeah, since she loves them. Yeah. And I'm like, guess what? That person you just paid $300 to go see and you're gonna have to fly to Houston because they're not coming to Nashville. You could have met them five years ago. Right, but you were just too cool for the room. But you were too cool. Yeah. It didn't want anything to do with it. Yeah, I don't know. But I mean, what is Wolfie gonna do when MySpace comes back and he has to choose a song? He won't choose a song. And then his profile's gonna be boring.

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His profile will say, I don't have a favorite song, but it'll be in big glitter bubble letters.

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(Laughing) No song chosen. Dink, dink, dink. You know, in my wildest dreams, he starts some sort of pop punk emo band and he writes a song about how he doesn't have a favorite song. And maybe that's coming for me in 15 years. It'll be really cool. And I'll be like a cool rock star mom. My favorite song is, I Don't Have a Favorite Song by Me. (Laughing) They're just saying there's something kind of punk about it. That's right. Get A.A. working on the lyrics. Oh, fuck that. Don't even get me started. Just continue and put it to the same music you did the Woody and Jim theme at the beginning of the podcast. Oh yeah.

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I do not have a favorite song. I wrote this song about having not a favorite I'll try to think of something in the future But nothing lives up to my expectations (Laughing)

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That was lovely. Thank you for that. Thank you. What is your favorite song? Here's the thing. Here's I think why I'm so annoyed that Wolfie doesn't have one. Aside from like the familial history of like we're a bunch of music people. I feel like when you ask someone what their favorite song is, you learn something about their soul. Like you learn something about their heart and their mind. And so I'm just like, "What do you mean you don't have a favorite?" So what is your favorite song currently? I know it changes. Everybody just freaks out. You gotta take my iPad away. Yeah. (Laughing) Run over that motherfucker.

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I don't have a favorite song. (Screaming) Maybe I do like- You don't get to say that. Solidarity. It's like whatever in the moment, like this afternoon my favorite song was

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"East of the Sun West of the Moon" which is like, I don't know, Nat King Cole sung by Diana Kroll, a jazz artist in 2001. I was just listening to while I was doing work on the computer.

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Maybe my favorite song is a song called "Squunk" by the band Genesis.

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Squunk? Squunk. Would you care to perform a little bit of it for me right now? (Screaming)

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(Scatting)

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It's mostly it's true.

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(Laughing) I'm imagining a promo for this podcast that's just that simple. (Laughing) A medley. Please like and subscribe. Of the weird stuff.

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(Laughing) We're doing it. We have to isolate just like that. Yeah, just that. Just like check this shit out. I don't know what's gonna happen.

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Here's how bad my memory is. Have you sung anything on the podcast today? No. See now we have two thirds of the content of this promo.

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(Laughing) We can have the third third. Oh yeah. Yeah, I guess so. What is your favorite song?

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What is my favorite song?

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Okay. It's not so easy when the hand is on the other foot. Yes. Listen, give me a second. We can cut out all the dead air. You know what's so great about this? Is that like remember back in the day when dead air was like such a bad thing. Oh yeah. Right? It's like dead air is like you're getting fired. All right, let's-- Now we can sit here in silence for as long as we want. Let's do it. Three, two, one.

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(Laughing)

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They can tell we're still here because our eyes are moving.

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So what's your favorite song?

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Okay, hold on. Let me look at what I've been listening to a lot lately. Well, you just played the part of me. You're not getting away without answering this question. No, I know. I'm gonna answer the question. It's just, you know, here's the thing. I start every day by driving around listening to music.

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So I feel like I just, there's so many songs I could say. So I'm gonna give you my current favorite. Okay. Oh, it's this song called "Baby Doll."

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His name is Jamie Miller. I guess he's a British guy. But speaking about nostalgia, the song is so nostalgic. It's giving 80s. Honestly, I wasn't even alive then. But it's like, it sounds like a theme song you would have heard for like Full House or I don't know, name any 80s rom-com. And all of his little promo videos for it, he's like walking around in a very 80s looking outfit with some headphones that have a cord still. Just like dancing around. There's a saxophone solo in the song. Like it's just so nostalgic and romantic and cute. And I love it. Look at that guy with this disc man. Yeah. What is your favorite song?

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My usual go-to that I start most of my playlist with on Amazon would be "Mr. Blues Guy" by the Electric Light Orchestra. Really? Great song. You guys have such cultured answers. It's a happy song.

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It is a really good song. It's got all the good ELO stuff. So it's got like violins. It's got a good beat. That's what I'm saying. Y'all have some culture here. We're talking orchestral music. A little bit of the robot voice in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Mr. Blues Guy

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I'm also partial to in the other direction.

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I'm partial to the song "My Dick" which is actually pretty funny. How does that song go?

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You remember that song? No. How does it go? It was during the Idiocracy they played it.

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It's like, it's two guys doing a rap battle. It's like, my dick has a double feature screen. Your dick went straight to DVD. It goes on back and forth.

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Okay. So is that like about like aesthetically how the genitalia looked or is it like how it performs? Like when it says like mine has a double screen. Like yours went straight to DVD. Is that like about aesthetics or is that about performance? Or is it all touched upon? During that. My dick looks like Macaulay Culkin. Your dick got touched by your uncle or something. I forget. Okay, but is that actually weird? How do you think Macaulay Culkin feels about that? He's home alone. (Laughing) I'm just saying like if you heard a song lyric that was like your name checked. Jim Chandler. Like, you know, like how would you like, or you know what I mean? Would you go look at yourself in the mirror and be like, what about this is giving?

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You know? Well, I think it's just cause of rhyme that you just did. Right? Oh, so I'm thinking about it too much. But I think if you get name checked, you already know. It's not like somebody all of a sudden name checks you in a song and tells you something you don't know about yourself. Like Macaulay Culkin knows what everybody is thinking about Macaulay Culkin. Is it, but is it, okay, wait. I feel like the implication of what you just said is that everybody somehow agrees without having talked about it until the song came out. That Macaulay Culkin kind of looks like a dick.

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Is that metaphorical or literal? You see what I'm saying? Yeah, wow.

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I think they're going back to early home alone Macaulay Culkin. I don't think they're looking at modern day. Modern day, bugged out, looks like he's totally strung out Macaulay Culkin. Even kinda does. I mean, he's kind of a wreck, right? I don't know. Honestly, I have tuned so far out of celebrity anything cause I think I feel like for so long every morning. That's my last memory of him. Yeah, I was looking at you guys every morning being like, "Hey, here's like the latest goofy celebrity thing." And so now I feel like I'm just like, "La, la, la, la, la, la, la." And people still like walk up to me and ask me questions about like what I think about the Blake Lively Justin Baldoni beef. And I'm like, "I don't fucking know. I don't know anything about it." It is kind of freeing not to have to care about that. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, not only that, like celebrity stuff but also likeatri some texts, we were kind of like just handheld. We were kind of like oncurrents and she had to be with me when she said like, Right, around different times done, talked to someone that door got opened and shetor Eat upgranc and here it is.

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Here it is. out of 10 things you see in the news don't matter. It's to get you riled up. Here's what's supposed to make you rage today. Okay, and each side does it. Your algorithm says this will get you started. Right, right. And so like that has been a thing for probably the last year or two. I just got, I'm not gonna let them work me like a puppet. Would you believe that I am fully in agreement with you on that? I feel like back in the day that would have just like blown your mind for me to be like, I don't care about politics. Like, well, like-- You used to come in the studio waving your copy of the Constitution. Literally, that's not a exaggeration. Like I literally-- I'm gonna personally save America. Like I had that shit in my perks.

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Had the little Barnes and Noble, like beautifully bound leather copy and I would carry it with me everywhere. Somewhere in my garage is-- Well, by everything is now it's become, it's more puppies, less politics. Yeah, I just, you know,

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I agree with what you said about like how all of these different, like large media entities, whatever, and even some smaller creators and stuff, like-- They're banking on it. They wanna get you pissed off and riled up and it is like very divisive. And I actually was having this conversation with somebody maybe like, I don't know, like last week or something because the primary in Tennessee was happening. And I did go vote, even though I don't watch the news anymore and I'm very much like, I will never run for political office. You did your citizen duty. Yes, I did do my duty. But like I was having the conversation that day, like as I was going into the polling place that I feel like now more than ever, I am so aware of the fact that like narrative is what drives business, like increasingly so. And I say that being like someone who used to work in media and like knowing how much we were encouraged to like say things or write blogs or what the fuck ever that we're gonna get clicks and get engagement and how do you get people to engage? You fucking pissed them off. Right, get them riled up. Get them riled up in some way, shape or form. Like that's why the Super Bowl commercials are so effective is because it gives you like an intense emotional reaction. Like that's why they're the best they're ever are is because it makes you cry or it makes you mad or it makes you laugh. Like there's something emotional about it. And so I feel like even with like news, whether it's news you see on TikTok by freelance journalists or like if you're turning on ABC or Fox or CNN or whatever, it's all narrative driven. And now with algorithms, your own belief systems are just being reinforced and the robots are just showing you what they think that you're already thinking. And so then people aren't talking to each other anymore. And you're increasingly loyal to like these people who don't know you fucking exist, do not fucking care about you. And you're isolated from your community and your neighbors and the people you actually live with every day. Yes, be where your feet are. Yes and that's so dumb. It's so dumb. So I went to study war like at the graduate level. When I left you guys, like I started a whole graduate program. You went to war. I went to study war. I went and I, cause I, you know, very much for years, like you guys know like so many of our listeners were like, you need to run for president someday. Like girl, you have to run for office. Like all these things, I was so about it. And so I was like, well, if I'm ever gonna run for office and anyone's ever gonna take me serious, I felt like Elle Woods. I was like, I have to go to law school. I was just saying, legally blonde. Yeah, it was very much like that. I was like, I-- Go conquer the world. Right, like I wouldn't wanna be in a position of power, certainly not the president someday and like commander in chief of the biggest military force in the world. If I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. So like, I need to go figure out what the fuck I'm talking about. So I went-- That's no longer a requirement. Apparently not, and that's another crazy thing too. Doesn't matter, in fact, qualifications disqualify. Have you been educated about this? Get out. But you know what's so funny about that is, cause I literally, I went to school because I thought to myself, I'm just a media personality. Nobody would ever take me serious. I could never be president like this. The universe fucking uno reversed me. And like, I was like, what is going on? So anyways, I went to this grad school program. I was studying war. I was like the only bitch in my classes. It was all like military officers, policemen, whatever. And I was just like this girl who like also had pictures of her titties out on the internet. And I felt so, so aware of myself, very ill woods. You just said that, yes. I did, yeah.

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If you follow me on Instagram, you already know. But anyways, so all of my like papers that I wrote in my classes, it was such a funny full circle thing where like I ended up writing about like cultural diplomacy. Cause I was studying war because ultimately what I wanted was to learn how to achieve peace. So how do you do that? You study conflict. So all of my thesis papers and presentations and stuff about like conflict resolution and like how to make, like how to be an effective diplomat. It was about cultural diplomacy. It was about the fact that like music and movies and art essentially are the things that like bind human beings together. And they're so much more effective than any politician because chances are nobody fucking trust them and they suck anyways. They were almost as big a part of winning the Cold War. Literally.

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Culture. Yeah, exactly. As nuclear armaments were. Right, so here I was thinking I was not doing anything that was important. And then I realized like, oh my God, you fucking moron. Like you were doing something that mattered the whole time and those little white guy idiots were trying to tell you.

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It's important to make people laugh. To be escape from all that. Yeah, right. And to like talk about the human things that bind people together. Right. Yeah. So isn't that funny how like you learned that eventually your elders were right? It's kind of annoying. Damn it. Yeah. Damn it. I'll never forgive you for it.

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I don't know. People are just, you know, want to spend some time with some people. Yeah. And you know, that's what we always did. We just hung out and like, okay. Yeah. Pull up a chair. Damn people always said the only thing felt like, you know, we were in the car with them. Yeah. They were just a friend talking to them. As opposed to, you know, talking at them. Right. Yeah. The world needs that. I feel like now more than ever, I feel like it's more important than it's ever been, honestly. Like I think everybody's lonely and freaked out. Yeah. And there's so much changing. So it's like those like foundational, like little touch points. It's good for your health. Eventually we will be like Japan and have start renting friends.

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(Laughing) Renting friends, well. Isn't that called like prostitution? (Laughing) Just kidding. How good of a friend would you like? Is that called pointing a sword? Going to be done by the robots. That's right. That's right. Sex robots.

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That really, well, that's maybe that's a topic for another day. Yeah, we should probably. Maybe not the first one. Woody's tried to stop this show about three or four times.

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(Laughing) Well, it's all, it's time to keep going. Oh my. I hope we haven't gone into Joe Rogan length. (Laughing) See, no. That's one of the reasons we're doing this for me. Yeah. Yeah. Just say whatever you want for however long it wants you. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I think you still got the broadcast stuff that's still living inside us. Where you're like, hmm, it's time to wrap it up. It's near the top of the hour. We better stop. You know, it's kind of hard to undo all that. Yeah. Do you think that like.

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(Laughing) Listen, hear me out. What if we like blended the past and the future at some point and by the future, I guess I mean right now, which is the present, but like what if, because back in the day we were doing a live show and it was like five hours at a time. Uh-huh, yep. And now we're just doing whatever the fuck show we want to theoretically. Yes, we want. What if we did like a podcast at one point where we just see how long we could go

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before we just have like nothing else to say. Like someone falls asleep, we're drawing on somebody's face. Like we just genuinely can't stand each other anymore. Like how long do you think we could be locked in a room and have a conversation before it just ends? Is it a theory to test at some point? I feel like yes.

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(Laughing) It'll be Naked and Afraid, the podcast. They put us on an island somewhere with just pointed sticks and recording. See, I love this guy saying like, oh don't be stuck with the old ways. And then immediately she tests how far we'll go with that.

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Well I have a beard when we press stop. Right, yeah. How many bathroom breaks do you have to take? I don't know, I just feel like for science it could be interesting.

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And then we could even like, our audience could be like part of the test, right? Like it's like how long could they hang in there with us before they had to press pause? I feel like we could study so much about life and human nature and our community right now. Yeah, we'd have to have some ground rules for the audience. Because I think if we're gonna go through that, I don't like, if we're gonna watch, we have to have a commitment from the people that would be watching us on their phone or on the computer or listening in the car that they would not do a second thing. Oh, like we have to have your full attention. Because like we're here. We can't go do another thing while we're podcasting. You have to only focus on this podcast that has run out of things to say. It could be great or it could be terrible or it could be great because it's terrible.

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Wow. It could be something we all go through together. Shared trauma. So it's Woody, Jim and Savannah off the leash. It's great because it's terrible.

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At least it's long. (Laughing) It wasn't a thing, but it took a long time to get there.

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Please leave comments now to say you're still with us.

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(Laughing) That is attempt number four to try to end the podcast.

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Are we now torturing you? Like is that what this is becoming? Like how long can we have key? It's so funny. I usually judge whether or not I'll listen to a podcast by where I'm going. If I said, okay, I have a half hour to get to downtown. I'll listen to a podcast that's like maybe 40 minutes long. Anything longer than that? Unless it has to really grab my attention if I want. Do you not feel like people love you enough to listen to a long conversation? I don't love me that much.

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(Laughing) Let's unpack that. But other people like love you more than you love you.

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Like you can be loved. It's okay. Even if you're not comfortable with that yourself. Also, also people can hit pause and they can come back to it later. That's true, they can come back to later. They can get out of the car. They can put gas in it. They can get back in. We can follow them everywhere. Pick up where you left off. Just like the advice we gave Savannah earlier, don't give up on love. Yes. Spider-Man and MJ will still be okay. Exactly. And Woody and Jim will still be on the airwaves somewhere. They will follow you into the bathroom. (Laughing) Oh I know. I didn't ask them to picture us. Somebody is listening to the podcast right now, sitting on the toilet. You know they are. I hope so. There is a not insignificant portion of our audience

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that spent a lot of time in the bathroom with us.

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Maybe hundreds of hours in the bathroom with us. Not just the toilet, but getting themselves ready in the morning. In the shower, you know, with the, yeah. Cowing their hair. Yeah. Doing all the things. Flossing. Yeah. And we were just the ambient sound. We were. Yeah. We were just the ASMR of their lives. And you know what? Here's a case for a really fucking long podcast. How about this dude? Now there's like YouTube videos that are like literally 16 hours long and it's like (Laughing)

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crackling sounds for you to fall asleep to. Or like your weird uncle spouting conspiracy theories for 16 hours. 12 hours of Darth Vader breathing. Totally, so like we could be that for somebody. We could be. So we could be asleep right now and we can whisper all kinds of crazy ideas into their heads. We could say affirmations for them as they wake up and they're just like ready to fucking attack their life in the best way, self-actualize. You got this. You can do this. Right. You are so smart. You are capable.

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Woody, you are loved. Aw. You're enough, Jim. You're enough, Savannah. Thank you so much. We're enough. (Laughing) What do you think is like probably the number one affirmation we could give to our listener? Maybe we should give our listeners an affirmation every week.

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Do we have more than one listener? Can we use plural? Do we have listeners? We have listeners. Okay, all right. We have listeners. When we told people we were gonna do a podcast, like the fucking response was enormous. We have lots of listeners. True. Yeah. But will we at the end of this? We could name them, probably.

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Talk to them directly. Like our favorite children.

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(Laughing) Not that anyone has those. Adam.

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(Laughing)

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I don't know, I just think-- It's a dead. Aw, yeah. I don't know. I think that, I even, I recognize this about myself and again, I don't know how healthy this is, but I don't like silence very much. If I'm, let's say, editing photos and I'm doing a marathon session of working on photos, I have to have sound in the background. And so I will put on a TV show, even if I'm not watching it, or I'll put on a podcast, because I just need to hear things, you know? So I don't feel so alone. That's why I leave the TV on for the dogs. I turn the TV on for my dog before I leave the house, and I'll tell him, would you like to watch the food network? Yeah. Okay, fine. (Laughing) Right, so I think that, you know,

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we're just adding warmth to people's lives. That's right. Yeah. There's only been a few conspiracy theories put out here on this podcast, and that was it. The valid ones. (Laughing) There is a bunch of gold Teslas waiting to do something. That's not even a conspiracy theory, it's just a fact. Have we seen pictures? Yeah. Are they gonna flood the Tesla tunnel with them? Oh yeah, what are they calling it, the Music City Loop? Yeah, whatever, Tesla Tunnel. Or something, maybe that's what it's for. Yeah, the Loop. Yeah, we're gonna have habit trails underneath Nashville. I don't know, it's scary though. Okay, all right. I say the note, we can all leave one thing. Okay. And mine is, don't let the world wind you up.

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The Outrage Industrial Complex is out there to make you crazy. True. Don't let it. Yeah. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, what's your one thing, what are you leaving on the table?

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All right, just because you think something doesn't mean you have to say it out loud.

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What?

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(Laughing) Okay, wait. There's gotta be a for instance that this,

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you're inspired by something. You can post as much as you want, but then when you have to commit to saying send. Okay, all right. Think about your choices and what it'll say about you.

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Posting. Posting. Okay. I like that and I'm just, the only reason I'm so shook is because you're the last person. Oh yeah, I have no filter. That I would have expected to say that to anyone. I give advice but I don't follow it. Right. I mean, but I kinda get what you were saying. You're like, don't just spout stuff off because you can, that's my job. Yes. (Laughing) You're like, only I can. Stay in your lane.

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Everybody? All right, Savannah, what are you laying on the table for everybody here? It's kind of dark, but it has an important purpose. Okay, so I don't know if you guys saw like over the last, I guess it was like maybe a week ago or something at this point, but did you see the Perez Hilton thing that happened? Oh, where he was cutting himself on TikTok Live. So Perez Hilton, which he was like the original like celebrity blogger, like celebrity news blogger. I've heard about him in years. Yeah. And frankly, he was gross what he was doing. Not just like the pictures he would do, but like to me, it was the ugly side of celebrity talk.

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Maybe within the last six months, I heard like, oh, he's kinda like, he's found God and he's kinda pulled himself together and he's gonna change his life, what happened? Okay, so he had like a psychotic break last week. And he was on TikTok Live like mutilating himself. When I tell you it was like Carrie vibes, like he was covered in blood live on TikTok for like 30 minutes, cutting himself open. He was naked. Yeah, it was horrible. And between that and like, I don't know if you guys have seen anything about the Lindsay Clancy trial that's going on right now, I would say it's probably like the most watched any kind of criminal trial since like Casey Anthony way back in the day. It's absolutely horrible. And that's like another instance of like someone who was having a severe like mental health crisis. And I know there's a lot of questions about like exactly how things unfolded and people are speculating a lot about like, did what we think happened actually happened? Or has she been framed and all these other things, whatever. I'm not here to like litigate any of that or make judgments about it. Like at the end of the day, I'm gonna let the jury and the professionals do what they need to do. But my reason for bringing it up is that like, I have personal experience with like a dearly loved one who was going through psychosis. And it was like over a year that it was going on. And it was the most terrifying, frustrating, exhausting thing that I have ever walked through in my entire life. Like trying to get that person the help that they needed so desperately, it was impossible.

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Like, you know, the emergency crisis hotlines that you think that you can call and they're gonna fix it, they're not. And it's not because like they don't want to. It's because like there's so much red tape. There's so many rules. Everyone's afraid of being sued. Things are expensive. They're overwhelmed. Exactly. There's so many reasons why like the, you know, mental health like resources that we're supposed to have in this country like fall short and like don't meet the moment. And then these tragic things happen, whether it's, you know, the Perez Hilton situation and he has children like no one's saying. That's kind of family, yeah. And I guess they were home when the whole thing started and they're young kids. Obviously Lindsay Clancy's children are like no longer on this earth because of like what happened with her. And so anyways, what I'm trying to get around to saying, note that I want to leave on, is that community is so important. Like the powers that be, whether they're, you know, medical professionals that you think are gonna be able to save the day or lawyers or politicians or whatever. Really, when it all boils down to like the bare bones of something, you have to have your community. You have to look out for each other. You have to like check in on the people that you love.

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Because I know that when I was going through it personally, like I really only had that person's mom. It was just me and her. And like we were just tag teaming the situation, trying to keep somebody alive. Because no matter how many times we ended up in the hospital or talking to police or whatever, we were all that that person had.

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And being able to get them through that was just because we were able to like lean on each other heavily. And there was somebody who understood and somebody who cared. So if you ever see somebody acting weird,

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maybe give them some grace. I know that kind of stuff can be scary, but like try to come at things from a place of compassion, I guess. Just check on your people, take care of each other. Community matters. Somebody haven't talked for a long time, call them up.

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Don't lose contact. You never know what people are going through. Right, and if you need help, just say that. Like it's okay to ask for help. Exactly. Yeah, so. I like that. That's a good way to end it. Yeah. Oh now Jim's gonna end it.

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No, I'm gonna end it. Okay.

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That was it.

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Here's one to grow on. (Laughing) When a fish jumps out of the water, does it hold its breath?

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We all hold its breath for it.

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Together. Oh man.

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We'll revisit that next episode. All right, next time.