00:45.67
Nandi K
Welcome back to Right Quick.
00:49.97
Vance π
A bite-sized pop culture conversation with your favorite Queer, unfriendly Black hotties.
00:54.60
Nandi K
Today we're unfriendly because for some reason white people never imagined black people in the future. Hmm. I'm Nandi Kayy.
01:04.16
Vance π
And I'm Vance Gowe. Um, what a, what a, what an astute observation. These motherfuckers, I feel like if they had it their way, it would just be like, you know, Lord of the Rings, the first OG Tolkien.
01:15.39
Nandi K
Well yes.
01:15.96
Vance π
um How boring. Like...
01:19.25
Nandi K
Sigh.
01:19.67
Vance π
That's why the food don't ever be good in these things. Likeβ¦
01:23.33
Nandi K
And then, hold on, but they always then give you the excuse that like... um
01:29.26
Vance π
Historically accurate.
01:29.59
Nandi K
Well, historically, bitch, this ain't history.
01:32.81
Vance π
Right.
01:33.17
Nandi K
This ain't history, bitch.
01:33.06
Vance π
I said a word. Right. Where are the dwarves? Where are the elves? Where the hobbits.
01:39.16
Nandi K
Okay, so you telling me you talking about history, but there's hella dragons in this bitch. Dragons aren't fucking real, you bitch.
01:46.31
Vance π
Listen. in you you ever see that meme where it's like they could get like the dragon's booty hole like accurate but when they got a design hair for black people in the in the games
01:55.85
Nandi K
It would just be like jigaboo hair.
01:57.49
Vance π
If... right it'd be it'd be them two hairstyles it'd be that uh well you know the word the killmonger
02:01.84
Nandi K
Oh my God. Yes. Oh God. That Killmonger hairstyle.
02:05.67
Vance π
Look.
02:06.61
Nandi K
Yo, when they, Black Panther. You know, like... I hate that white people had access to that because...
02:16.31
Vance π
I was going...
02:17.17
Nandi K
Think about all the shows where that Killmonger hair, somebody was wearing it.
02:20.34
Vance π
Yep.
02:22.59
Nandi K
poorly.
02:23.68
Vance π
every, like every show after that. And then I'm like, ah
02:26.27
Nandi K
Bitch queen sugar one of the kids on queen sugar had his hair like that when he went through his black lives matter face yeah remember because he had got roughed up by that cop that one time yeah
02:32.03
Vance π
Who, Micah? It was Micah, right?
02:36.75
Vance π
Yeah, that he turned woke.
02:38.62
Nandi K
yeah exactly and he had that hair when he turned woke He was like, I want to go to an HBCU, mom.
02:40.47
Vance π
Uh-uh.
02:44.33
Vance π
No. I didn't get that deep in Queen Sugar, but I love that show. I need to finish it.
02:49.43
Nandi K
yeah no it was great yeah i didn't i don't know if we finished it but we did really enjoy it
02:51.29
Vance π
That I need it.
02:55.24
Vance π
It was peak drama. Like, it was very dramatic.
02:57.62
Nandi K
Mhm.
02:58.35
Vance π
I remember I cried.
02:58.92
Nandi K
I love drama. There's not enough Black dramas.
03:00.47
Vance π
Bitch.
03:02.38
Nandi K
That's why, because did you watch like Greenleaf as well?
03:05.74
Vance π
I did.
03:06.07
Nandi K
It's a church drama.
03:06.11
Vance π
so I started it.
03:07.10
Nandi K
That was my shit.
03:07.60
Vance π
I started green leaf. Yo mama's in it.
03:09.61
Nandi K
Yes, that's why I watched it.
03:10.83
Vance π
She's scary.
03:11.04
Nandi K
Yeah, she was playing who she's meant to be.
03:14.96
Vance π
Live with her.
03:15.34
Nandi K
That was damn near my life.
03:16.72
Vance π
Okay.
03:17.15
Nandi K
Now my mom wasn't a preacher's wife.
03:17.30
Vance π
All right.
03:19.86
Nandi K
but she was a minister of music. So she was basically like the daughter.
03:24.81
Vance π
Yeah.
03:25.43
Nandi K
Yeah.
03:26.07
Vance π
It's scary, yeah. i seen I really did like that show. I remember the... um the Oprah storyline i really liked where like
03:33.78
Nandi K
Oh yeah.
03:34.74
Vance π
She was abused by that guy that wasn't the same.
03:36.31
Nandi K
Mm hmm.
03:36.89
Vance π
She abused the daughter too.
03:38.74
Nandi K
Yes.
03:39.43
Vance π
So they had like a little connection, but everybody ousted her for just being real about it.
03:41.39
Nandi K
And here.
03:44.51
Vance π
I said, whoop.
03:44.82
Nandi K
Child. Yeah, and Keith David was the dad.
03:45.90
Vance π
Whoop!
03:48.69
Vance π
Love.
03:48.94
Nandi K
uh in the past or
03:50.15
Vance π
Love Keith David Down.
03:50.75
Nandi K
a cheater with extra children
03:52.88
Vance π
Listen, love them down.
03:54.50
Nandi K
ah We love old Silverthote.
03:57.35
Vance π
Look. ah silver Silver what?
03:58.31
Nandi K
That's his name. You know that's his name on threads. Silverthroat.
04:02.48
Vance π
Why?
04:03.44
Nandi K
On Threads, that's his name. But you know why, because he has that silver, silky voice.
04:09.25
Vance π
Oh, the soaker. Yeah, the silky throat. Yeah. Got it.
04:14.07
Nandi K
And you know he also.
04:16.22
Vance π
Yeah, he not using it in no dirty way.
04:16.92
Nandi K
Yeah. No, no.
04:18.75
Vance π
What y 'all think so funny?
04:21.74
Nandi K
Ciao. Well... What are we talking about today, Vance?
04:24.92
Vance π
all right so today we're talking about i feel like this is a continuation of our conversation about imagination But um the title is Bonnets and Durags in Space.
04:36.27
Vance π
So. I mean, I think you got it. I think you got it. But just like. I'm saying that. What do you think when I say that? Just what do you think of?
04:45.17
Nandi K
Well, I just think of Niggas in space like...
04:48.41
Vance π
I mean yes.
04:48.84
Nandi K
Yeah, niggas in space. How do we, how is it different than, you know, crackers in space?
04:56.12
Vance π
Right. Right. and I will say, I mean, like we already talked about Black Panther, but like I think um the what got me thinking about this, I've been thinking about this for a thousand years, but the biggest thing that got me thinking about this was actually um Star Trek Discovery, which is...
05:01.57
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
05:10.92
Vance π
The second to last. ah like most current star star trek. main character was Sonequa Green Martin um
05:15.09
Nandi K
Yes.
05:18.81
Nandi K
Yes, I remember when you first told me about the fact that she had braids.
05:19.84
Vance π
Pretty. Yes.
05:23.48
Nandi K
I said, oh!
05:23.67
Vance π
Yes. Yes. That was it. Cause she, um, uh, early season she had, she had like her curls, which was great. Right?
05:31.46
Nandi K
Mhm.
05:31.23
Vance π
Like I thought it was dope. Then I think season two or three, she had her box braids and they were just. And she was a captain. And.
05:38.20
Nandi K
Yes!
05:39.07
Vance π
I think for me, whatever. I mean, I know this feels basic, but I just really was like, I don't think I've seen this. And I felt really happy and like. Because if she got braids, that means somebody had to braid her hair. And um we joked about this in our group chat.
05:52.56
Nandi K
Yes. If that, then what else?
05:55.54
Vance π
right right so like i'm like i could only imagine this captain being like i will not be here for the next three days
06:03.72
Nandi K
Um...
06:03.93
Vance π
And then she leaves and she comes back with new hair.
06:06.65
Nandi K
Yeah.
06:07.28
Vance π
And then the alien Nigga is like, did you did you do something to your hair? And it's like, you dumb bitch.
06:13.59
Nandi K
oh Oh my God. Because also, you know, as a casual. Star Trek watch i used to watch star trek with my dad a lot growing up um because it came on like before Jeopardy
06:23.11
Vance π
Mm hmm.
06:27.24
Vance π
Yep.
06:27.65
Nandi K
did you know we didn't have cable well my dad actually did have cable anyways All the other Black women who have ever been on Star Trek had like natural hair.
06:38.07
Vance π
Oh, okay, okay.
06:38.70
Nandi K
That was like quaffed.
06:40.65
Vance π
Okay.
06:40.66
Nandi K
So like. styled up even when you go back to um
06:46.11
Vance π
Nichols.
06:46.00
Nandi K
the first Lieutenant Uhura.
06:47.51
Vance π
Uh. it Yeah, yeah, Michelle Nichelle Nichols?
06:51.12
Nandi K
Nichelle Nichols yeah.
06:52.18
Vance π
yeah yeah yeah
06:53.01
Nandi K
when you see her hair she has like a coif like it's straightened and short and pinned together and then
06:53.14
Vance π
Love her
06:56.80
Vance π
Yes. Yes.
07:00.79
Nandi K
Whoopi on... um
07:03.75
Vance π
She had a head wrap most of the time
07:05.67
Nandi K
Yeah.
07:07.09
Vance π
What was her name?
07:07.12
Nandi K
So...
07:07.73
Vance π
I forgot her name. Shit.
07:08.73
Nandi K
I can't remember her name either um
07:09.81
Vance π
Aaron.
07:13.32
Vance π
No, okay.
07:14.76
Nandi K
ah Yeah, I forgot who...
07:17.26
Vance π
Fuck I know. it I'm sorry. Yeah anyway
07:19.12
Nandi K
Oh, what's it? Good night. Guinan? Guinan.
07:22.37
Vance π
It was good. I think that's right.
07:23.89
Nandi K
Good night.
07:23.97
Vance π
That's right
07:24.84
Nandi K
Anyway, yeah, she wore like a head cover.
07:24.76
Vance π
She was like the, yeah.
07:27.84
Nandi K
Her hair was like kind of showing from the bottom, but. um yeah so when you told me that i was like oh my god somebody with braids because of what it implies. about. the world that means that there's somewhere for her to go get her braids done and what is an inter Galactic.
07:43.48
Vance π
Yes.
07:46.29
Vance π
Yes, a salon in space
07:50.60
Nandi K
Bray is shop. Like.
07:52.85
Vance π
Right. Right. Burn your own hair, sis. There's a teleporter. like If you're late...
07:59.53
Nandi K
Oh my God.
08:00.09
Vance π
they They might really be mad at you, like, bitch, you got teleportation. what you
08:04.29
Nandi K
okay but like do you think they have multiple people working on a head or do you think they have alien beings with multiple hands working on a head
08:11.43
Vance π
Bitch. I think a six-handed person, I think a six-armed robot, not robot, alien would be obviously ideal.
08:18.37
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
08:20.45
Vance π
Um. I think there might be a machine that helps, right?
08:23.57
Nandi K
Oooh A machine?
08:23.53
Vance π
like Iβ¦
08:27.05
Nandi K
No.
08:27.17
Vance π
Remember, we talked about this in the group chat, and Erica said, ah no, no, no, it takes it takes just the same amount of time. And I said, that's hilarious, because I could imagine it would.
08:36.86
Nandi K
I'm dead.
08:37.80
Vance π
It's still going to take three days.
08:38.05
Nandi K
No, I want to think that it takes less time.
08:41.54
Vance π
What, like, like...
08:41.72
Nandi K
like
08:43.12
Vance π
ah Half a day.
08:45.37
Nandi K
I mean, that's... still how long That's how long it takes now. So like... I think that the time for braiding has been cut by two thirds. So it only takes a third of the time that it takes now. So if you're getting a style that used to take three days, Now it takes one.
09:04.80
Vance π
Like a day See you today.
09:06.29
Nandi K
If it took 12 hours, now it takes... four hours, you know?
09:10.43
Vance π
i'm I'm into that. And that makes sense. We're 2 ,000 years or however long they are in the future.
09:14.53
Nandi K
Yeah, why are we still using these same archaic? But I'm not letting a machine braid my hair because here's the thing about being Black as well. Like... I need hands. Like I'm not letting a machine do it. Like it's sacred. I don't care if it's like alien hands, but it's gotta be hands.
09:35.53
Vance π
I think the six arm.
09:35.93
Nandi K
Because how do you get the parts precise? like
09:38.32
Vance π
Right. Right. I think the six arms and then like, they gotta be like a good, they gotta be like a math alien.
09:41.01
Nandi K
Yeah.
09:43.87
Vance π
Like, you know, alien, like, like the Vulcans might be good at braiding cause they know math.
09:46.77
Nandi K
Yeah! Yeah.
09:49.42
Vance π
Do they get the sacred geometry?
09:49.31
Nandi K
and they can just see how many yes oh my god casting spells in your head yeah and then they know exactly how many braids or how many lots you gonna need so they can tell you the exact amount of time it's gonna take
09:52.18
Vance π
Yes, yes. Very technical.
09:58.14
Vance π
Yes. Yes.
10:02.37
Vance π
Yup. the The spatial awareness, like, yep, that's going to be that.
10:03.49
Nandi K
Oh my god. We stand.
10:06.30
Vance π
but But that is we, we show in on a tangent, but that is exactly why I brought this up. Cause like, if we're in space with our hair, we weren't a durag in space.
10:12.11
Nandi K
Yeah.
10:16.35
Vance π
I mean, you're preserving them waves. That means.
10:18.76
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
10:19.30
Vance π
there's a culture um the new Uhura is dark skin and she got waves in the in the current
10:24.77
Nandi K
Oh! Whoa!
10:26.06
Vance π
She got short hair and she got waves. Um.
10:29.43
Nandi K
Is it the chick from 20s?
10:32.50
Vance π
Ooh, I don't know if I know 20s. Let me see.
10:35.63
Nandi K
I need to see what, which Star Trek is this current one?
10:38.40
Vance π
Uh, uh, it's strange new worlds and she's Uhura. She's a dark skin
10:45.61
Nandi K
Word. You know, I just have to see if this is the person I'm thinking of
10:51.57
Vance π
Her name is Celia Rose Goody, I believe.
10:53.23
Nandi K
Oh. I'm in love with Celia Rose.
10:55.28
Vance π
Peace. Oh, you know her.
10:55.59
Nandi K
I forgot she was...
10:56.49
Vance π
Okay.
10:57.42
Nandi K
I saw her. Okay, so, because we are going to talk a little bit about House of the Dragon.
11:01.03
Vance π
She gone.
11:03.83
Nandi K
but um
11:04.57
Vance π
Oh yeah.
11:05.69
Nandi K
Allen. From House of the Dragon, Abubakar Saleem.
11:09.29
Vance π
The thick one.
11:10.56
Nandi K
Yeah, the thick one.
11:11.71
Vance π
Okay.
11:11.90
Nandi K
Abubakar Saleem, his real name. I told you I saw him playing this Dungeons & Dragons game on a... show. alive stream show that I watch.
11:22.74
Vance π
Mm-hmm.
11:22.87
Nandi K
Celia Rose Gooding was also... on another iteration of that same show. She was So good. She made me cry. She was such a great actress because they're all like actors.
11:35.69
Vance π
Nice.
11:38.56
Nandi K
So the drama gets like really high and really intense and she's fine.
11:41.84
Vance π
Uh huh.
11:43.16
Nandi K
I just.
11:43.51
Vance π
Yeah.
11:44.23
Nandi K
I remember going to look her up like who is this and then I saw she was too young for me
11:48.58
Vance π
Yeah, she a baby she's
11:49.06
Nandi K
So I was sad, but...
11:50.05
Vance π
26.
11:52.77
Nandi K
yeah she's much too young for me like way too young for me but
11:55.10
Vance π
Yeah.
11:57.11
Nandi K
I was like, hello gorgeous.
12:00.42
Vance π
Yeah, I saw, um I don't, I watched a couple episodes of the new one, but like I saw the waves and they were talking about it when the first came out. um But yeah, that...
12:08.24
Nandi K
She don't gotta line up though, I see.
12:11.26
Vance π
Look, look. the And it...
12:12.43
Nandi K
She got a round one. Let me tell you something.
12:14.13
Vance π
Eh.
12:14.78
Nandi K
That just, ew. One thing about me, and people might disagree with me, as somebody who's been getting my haircut for...
12:18.87
Vance π
Yeah.
12:24.92
Nandi K
over 15 years who's not a man so like not my whole life but most of my adult life. Y 'all have to get lineups, bro.
12:35.63
Nandi K
like
12:36.02
Vance π
Yeah.
12:37.16
Nandi K
Well, it your hairline looks insane.
12:37.58
Vance π
Oh.
12:40.41
Nandi K
Like these round hairlines. This man gave me a round hairline for my first barbershop haircut. he fucked me up. I had to grow that shit out and then go to a different barber to be revived.
12:52.43
Vance π
And... And why would I want a round hairline? Unless I ask you for one why would you just line it up? It's a line. It's called a lineup for a reason not a roundup
13:00.67
Nandi K
Like... why And ah Barbara's be like, ew, it's feminine. It looks stupid. Yeah, this Her hair does not look...
13:07.32
Vance π
And did I ask for it?
13:10.08
Nandi K
This lineup really... Yikes. Because it's like you have waves, so it's not even contained. They can just roll out, go anywhere.
13:19.25
Vance π
Well, uh... Free range waves. ah
13:21.75
Nandi K
Free range waves. Nobody wants that.
13:24.56
Vance π
She...
13:24.20
Nandi K
Y 'all better go fence them waves in.
13:27.25
Vance π
they need to I feel like you could use a little taser. or Not the taser. You know what I'm talking about. You could use the stun laser or whatever to line your head up.
13:35.13
Nandi K
Listen.
13:35.19
Vance π
like
13:36.02
Nandi K
i was gonna ask what did the men get hair like do they get lineups like
13:36.03
Vance π
It's space.
13:41.72
Vance π
On what?
13:42.03
Nandi K
Did they just get lineups in space?
13:42.10
Vance π
Star Trek? yeah for sure I mean I think that like
13:46.65
Nandi K
Who doing it? what What does it look like?
13:49.60
Vance π
I think.
13:51.19
Nandi K
What a laser.
13:51.50
Vance π
Low key. I think a laser could do it all.
13:55.05
Nandi K
Damn.
13:55.90
Vance π
Even the fade.
13:57.47
Nandi K
Fuck. You gonna hold your ear down, though, bitch?
13:59.16
Vance π
I would be scared to do it. i
14:01.07
Nandi K
I'm scared as fuck.
14:03.22
Vance π
You know when they hit the back of your neck?
14:03.37
Nandi K
Hold your ear down bitch, yeah bitch.
14:04.32
Vance π
You know when they hit the back of your neck? Yeah. Oh. I... I do not like that because that shit, even when I was a little kid, it feels inappropriate. I get goosebumps when they heat hit the back of my neck.
14:14.34
Nandi K
Hello. You're ticklish.
14:18.10
Vance π
He be like, did you moan? I'd be like, nah.
14:20.39
Nandi K
As the oldest daughter. you know i My neck is fortified against heat
14:26.58
Vance π
Uh-uh.
14:26.96
Nandi K
D-N. But that's also why I'll never have hair on the back of my neck ever again. Because obviously I'm traumatized. I don't let my hair grow.
14:35.00
Vance π
What from the cuts?
14:37.35
Nandi K
I don't let my hair get long anymore so that I have to really... like, worry about putting heat to the back.
14:44.10
Vance π
Oh, I know.
14:44.41
Nandi K
I'm traumatized from early hot comblife.
14:44.89
Vance π
which oh Oh, yes. I got you. i Got you.
14:47.86
Nandi K
early hot come life early get it marcel curling irons baby i have been burned i never want to go back
14:49.60
Vance π
Bitch.
14:55.95
Vance π
When when I was in the eighth grade, I had really long hair and I used to get it pressed
14:59.09
Nandi K
And you used to get your history. Yes.
15:00.73
Vance π
Woo! I do not envy. I do not envy little girls.
15:03.71
Nandi K
Wow. if i get Wow. This is how Victor be talking too.
15:05.59
Vance π
And then you be.
15:07.61
Nandi K
Victor used to have a relaxer and he'd be like, tell them how long my hair used to be.
15:12.36
Vance π
ah Right, right.
15:12.38
Nandi K
I'm like.
15:13.14
Vance π
You used to be back here.
15:14.14
Nandi K
Faguettes.
15:14.23
Vance π
ah And then you, and then you wait, but like, then you getting popped because you're hurt or something or like, bitch, you hurt me.
15:22.89
Vance π
I should be popping you.
15:23.68
Nandi K
Like, you're burning me, bitch, with a thing that was on fire.
15:25.39
Vance π
Right. Right.
15:28.11
Nandi K
like
15:29.56
Vance π
And then when I hear birds sometimes.
15:29.74
Nandi K
You put too much grease. My hair's not fully dry. Now its but the steam is burning my fucking scalp.
15:33.62
Vance π
clicking it.
15:37.45
Vance π
And you be, ah, just stop moving.
15:40.44
Nandi K
Bro.
15:40.73
Vance π
you'll never you'll never touch my hair again uh
15:44.81
Nandi K
Well, should we talk about some of this other IP?
15:47.51
Vance π
Absolutely. so ah I have, I wrote down a bunch, but I said Star Trek just in general.
15:51.86
Nandi K
Mm-hmm
15:53.74
Vance π
So like you got the OG and current Uhura.
15:54.25
Nandi K
Yeah.
15:57.57
Vance π
Commander Sisko and his son Jake.
15:59.33
Nandi K
Yeah.
16:00.75
Vance π
Michael Burnham.
16:01.21
Nandi K
Cisco! Yep.
16:02.73
Vance π
Cisco's my look and that wasn't my Star Trek, but I know the fandom loves that man
16:04.62
Nandi K
Hey.
16:07.38
Nandi K
Yes.
16:07.82
Vance π
Um. look What's his name? Tuvok, the Vulcan. There's just a bunch of...
16:11.38
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
16:12.22
Vance π
oh Whoopi Goldberg's I don't Good. Good. I'm sure people didn't know a yellow
16:18.65
Nandi K
Guinen, Guinen, Guinen.
16:20.23
Vance π
Woo!
16:20.39
Nandi K
Anyway.
16:21.43
Aaron Rand Freeman
oh it's got it it's It's a Gynon.
16:21.79
Nandi K
Yeah.
16:21.51
Vance π
Anyway. up
16:23.93
Nandi K
Gynon.
16:24.10
Vance π
Guy Nye, thank you.
16:24.34
Nandi K
Thank you. Thank you, Aaron.
16:26.13
Vance π
Um.
16:26.15
Nandi K
Thank you.
16:27.07
Vance π
House of Dragon, the whole Valerian family.
16:29.58
Nandi K
yeah, period.
16:29.99
Vance π
Um... At first, they were mulattresses and mulattos, and then...
16:36.01
Nandi K
They brought in the niggas.
16:36.15
Vance π
This season. The Nigga Niggas came, and now...
16:39.06
Nandi K
No, well, the nigga niggas came towards the end of last season.
16:39.17
Vance π
now The best. yes they've been here they've been here but we didn't we you know they didn't become central characters until this season and that scene when they was on that beach after that battle and they were all just like these white people crazy ain't it and i was like ain't this Beautiful.
16:46.77
Nandi K
Yeah.
16:51.60
Nandi K
Well...
16:55.77
Nandi K
They posted a picture. like a behind the scenes picture of them from that and i was like wow this is
17:04.00
Vance π
It's...
17:05.09
Nandi K
Like the episode where they were riding dragons, I literally like was getting emotional.
17:05.03
Vance π
It's beautiful.
17:11.82
Vance π
It's It is.
17:12.09
Nandi K
Like, I was so emotional because I was just like, damn, like, Niggas, they don't be having Niggas riding on dragons.
17:18.52
Vance π
For real. No, like, it's...
17:19.49
Nandi K
Like...
17:20.39
Vance π
it's Like, I mean, I hate because, you know, the girls be like, listen, I mean, I wrote the question because some of the girls really be like representation don't matter. Um.
17:29.34
Nandi K
I mean, it's not the end-all be-all, but it does matter.
17:31.97
Vance π
Definitely not.
17:33.16
Nandi K
You know, it definitely matters.
17:33.74
Vance π
And it's like... How could it not? And I think everybody is not like tapped in in a way where like they're an academic and they just feel and know that all this shit.
17:36.89
Nandi K
Thank you.
17:43.26
Vance π
So I guess what I'm getting at, if you're a little kid and you never see yourself in these settings, you can't imagine it. So even being a...
17:49.00
Nandi K
I don't know if that's true. I don't think that that's true.
17:51.15
Vance π
No, maybe not.
17:51.33
Nandi K
Just because you never see it means you can't imagine it, but it's certainly a lot easier.
17:55.42
Vance π
But... I think it helps.
17:57.48
Nandi K
to imagine it when you can see it.
17:59.70
Vance π
I think it helps. And I also think it just helps convey the message that you do belong wherever, anywhere.
18:05.06
Nandi K
Yeah, and I also think, you know, I think Black people, we don't need to see. ness it like we don't consider like since we consider white people human beings we don't We can also be like, oh, this human being did this thing, so I can also do this thing.
18:24.23
Vance π
So can I, so can I.
18:26.31
Nandi K
White people are the ones.
18:28.19
Vance π
Have a hard time
18:29.09
Nandi K
who have a hard time seeing Black people. doing that. I do really think the issue is white people not Black imagination because Black Imagination is persistent.
18:41.09
Nandi K
Like.
18:41.78
Vance π
I feel that. I also feel like Even the shows we're talking about. Let's say... Game of Thrones season one.
18:46.90
Nandi K
Yeah.
18:47.48
Vance π
When they did not have niggas i think we we looking at it from a black lens anyway which is like the way we talk about it which is how we're able to have fun with it because like we like yeah where it's like i feel like white people they have to have white people in their shit to enjoy it even
18:57.11
Nandi K
Yeah.
19:01.93
Nandi K
they do they be like i don't they be like well i don't understand like i couldn't put myself in the shoes of the character well why do you need to why why can't you just be like a third person watching.
19:14.75
Vance π
And I think...
19:15.12
Nandi K
Like when you read books, like I don't insert myself as a character when I'm reading books. I'm watching a story unfold.
19:22.97
Vance π
But if you are a human, I think like this season of House of Dragons, the show in general, it's about a family. If you've ever had a family that did not like each other, I think you could kind of get what's going on.
19:31.36
Nandi K
Yeah. I mean, but that's what all of the whole like Song of Ice and Fire is about, right?
19:34.27
Vance π
thank you Yeah.
19:37.87
Nandi K
Like, but like George R .R. Martin is fucking white. His shit is based on Tolkien, fucking white. Like, white people... be doing white shit. Like Shout out to the people who did House of the Dragon. Because... They replaced a bunch of people and made them Black. who are not Black in the IP.
19:59.24
Vance π
Internet change. Right.
20:01.70
Nandi K
You know, they change a ton and it may.
20:02.14
Vance π
And then it changed it.
20:05.63
Nandi K
some of the stories more pronounced because they turn the characters Black and that is huge
20:12.08
Vance π
Rob Markman Right. Well, I mean, even though like, Laenor and Rhaenyra, right?
20:16.95
Nandi K
Mm hmm.
20:16.86
Vance π
Like, their whole thing. It's funny. It's funny because I think if he was white, then it would be harder to believe. like It would be easier to to lie and say them kids were his kids.
20:24.93
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah.
20:27.08
Vance π
but like he Black these kids ain't Black
20:28.93
Nandi K
Yeah.
20:30.77
Vance π
So.
20:30.85
Nandi K
But also like... He was a fucking faggot.
20:34.79
Vance π
Yes.
20:34.69
Nandi K
Like.
20:36.12
Vance π
When.
20:35.88
Nandi K
It's not Rhaenyra's fault that that Nigga was gay. His parents knew he was fucking gay. She knew he was gay. He knew he was. Everybody knew.
20:43.41
Vance π
Everybody knew. everybody Literally everybody knew. Wait, when the uncle when the uncle was like... Them white kids.
20:48.56
Nandi K
BASTARD! Ain't got that head chopped off.
20:51.15
Vance π
It was like. he said the salt he said they ain't got salt in their blood we got salt in our blood and yeah he got gripped up
20:57.77
Nandi K
Yeah, he got that head came off.
20:58.06
Vance π
Rest in peace, Uncle Vaman.
20:59.88
Nandi K
um I had Men in Black, of course, some of my earliest time.
21:02.99
Vance π
Yep. Of course.
21:05.17
Nandi K
I mean, Will Smith. New York City. Them fucking little centipede aliens drinking coffee.
21:11.95
Vance π
Yeah.
21:12.76
Nandi K
They was definitely Niggas.
21:13.76
Vance π
the roaches
21:14.77
Nandi K
Yeah, I fucked with them. um I also had They Clone Tyrone, which is pretty...
21:19.78
Vance π
Fire.
21:20.42
Nandi K
Recent, so great. Another like take on sci-fi that kind of borders on, like I guess, like speculative fiction in some ways.
21:26.13
Vance π
Blackploitation
21:28.68
Nandi K
um The Fifth Element.
21:30.39
Vance π
Yeah.
21:30.65
Nandi K
because of chris tucker we had a long talk about chris tucker's character before this but like
21:32.90
Vance π
Amazing.
21:37.89
Nandi K
everything.
21:38.20
Vance π
iconic conic Iconic
21:39.25
Nandi K
Just so iconic, the thing. And then I also added Xenon, Girl of the 21st Century.
21:44.78
Vance π
Raven Simone?
21:44.88
Nandi K
Zoom, zoom, zoom. Make my heart go boom, boom.
21:46.70
Vance π
Make my heart go boom boom.
21:48.41
Nandi K
My supernova girl.
21:48.71
Vance π
God's super number.
21:51.21
Nandi K
That was my shit.
21:51.29
Vance π
Fire.
21:52.10
Nandi K
Raven-SymonΓ© was so fucking cute.
21:53.40
Vance π
Raven!
21:54.64
Nandi K
She wore so many cute fucking outfits, so many cute hair.
21:56.50
Vance π
Yes!
21:59.32
Nandi K
Raven in Xenon Girl of the 21st Century had me thinking, bitch, when we go to space.
22:05.45
Vance π
Right right, right
22:06.04
Nandi K
When we go to space, bitch. My outfits, my leggings. Mind you, we were dressing like that for like the next.
22:13.02
Vance π
Anyway.
22:13.94
Nandi K
Five to seven years not in space.
22:15.00
Vance π
Right.
22:17.04
Nandi K
ah We was wearing leggings like that under shorts.
22:20.04
Vance π
The 2000s.
22:21.72
Nandi K
The early aughts were truly a time, but...
22:23.29
Vance π
and crazy Look, while I was.
22:25.81
Nandi K
Woo. But that was like Xenon Girl of the 21st Century was my. Shit. Oh my God. I used to watch it all the time.
22:35.06
Vance π
um Not on this list, but fantasy. a Witcher. They got some Blacks on there doing some stuff and then I'll
22:40.17
Nandi K
Oh sure. Yeah, they had the Black version.
22:43.44
Vance π
Will of time. uh underrated it got cancelled after the third season but they had
22:48.04
Nandi K
i didn't think it was very good
22:49.88
Vance π
Um... They had a bunch of Blacks on there. Um.
22:52.54
Nandi K
I saw, but I didn't think it was very good.
22:54.04
Vance π
Did you fit? What'd you get?
22:55.69
Nandi K
I got like a few episodes in, I was like, this sucks.
22:56.84
Vance π
You finish? I think the first season is kind of whatever. I like the second and third season.
23:02.28
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah, it's like, if I can't get through the first season, how, in fact, will I make it to the second or the third?
23:09.43
Vance π
Well, like they...
23:09.50
Nandi K
I don't watch stuff I don't like. Some people be like, Shauna's also like this, where they're like, well, I want to see what happens. I don't care. When I'm like, I don't like it, I'd be like, I could care less about how this turns out. I'm out because people kept hyping it up, saying it was better than Game of Thrones. I was like... This is not better than Game of Thrones.
23:28.99
Vance π
Yeah, that's ah that's a hard sell. Unfortunately, I think all fantasy is going to be compared. To Game of Thrones. Oh.
23:36.38
Nandi K
I think people should stop doing that. I think because people gave me like, oh, this is like. Game of Thrones, but with Niggas? I went to watch it. I said, this is nothing like Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones is a fucking masterpiece. Even with Just Crackers, which I'm totally happy to not be included, right? like Leave me out altogether, bitch. Except for that fucking Misa scene. That's when I started getting mad. But... Leave me out of it. Wheel of time. I think we watched two or three episodes. I said I cannot suffer this any longer.
24:13.01
Vance π
Witcher, I feel like, doesn't get that that same descriptor. But to me, Witcher feels like Xena. Like, it's a...
24:19.69
Nandi K
Oh, see, I didn't watch Witcher.
24:20.48
Vance π
It's like. oh witcher's like xena and like in a campy way like in that like this If you see it as not that serious and you watch it, it's a decent watch. But if you're like, oh, this is going to be, it's not.
24:31.13
Nandi K
Yeah. Mmm.
24:33.45
Vance π
But it's funny. And then this nigga, every episode be like, I stay out of human affairs. And then ah three minutes later, he's all up in human affairs.
24:40.40
Nandi K
In human affairs.
24:41.84
Vance π
Yeah. And it's like, that's funny. So like, I think if you watch the show from like that lens, it's funny. If not, it's not a good show. And it got worse. And they cast recast the main character, which is crazy.
24:52.24
Nandi K
I do remember when they recast the main character and people were like, what the fuck? I only know the song from Witcher because it was just, Pass a coin to your Witcher.
24:58.53
Vance π
Oh, uh... Toss a coin to your witch. Yeah
25:02.13
Nandi K
Oh, earlier Frenchie. Oh, earlier Frenchie. I was like, oh, that's a banger.
25:07.59
Vance π
Not. Not the r and b version now.
25:10.67
Nandi K
Oh well.
25:10.56
Vance π
It's a I love her. Uh... Okay. Ooh.
25:14.92
Nandi K
okay well we kind of talked about like is it important that black people are represented in sci-fi and fantasy we kind of talked about that
25:21.80
Vance π
Yeah.
25:22.57
Nandi K
It is important.
25:22.64
Vance π
Yes.
25:24.94
Nandi K
And also, like there's a lot of ways. It doesn't have to be mainstream representation. Like like you were mentioning before, comics. Always got niggas.
25:32.72
Vance π
Oh, comics? ahead of the curve yeah comics books uh comics though always ahead of the curve um I think even, oh, what what I didn't put on here, I know we're talking about Black people, but I think it's important to just mention, like, even disabled people, like, being ah present in these things, right?
25:37.75
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah.
25:47.10
Nandi K
Mm-hmm. Yes.
25:49.43
Vance π
um the creators of Avatar they have a show called uh the dragon prince on netflix
25:54.36
Nandi K
Yes, I i was going to bring that up. ah So good with a deaf character. I started watching that.
25:58.55
Vance π
The deaf lady, right?
25:59.79
Nandi K
It was really good.
26:01.38
Vance π
um yeah so they got I guess it's ASL.
26:01.67
Nandi K
Yeah.
26:03.58
Vance π
I don't know if it's ASL, but they sign.
26:05.73
Nandi K
mm-hmm
26:06.17
Vance π
They be signing in the show. She has an interpreter.
26:09.55
Nandi K
mm-hmm
26:09.88
Vance π
She's fully involved in combat. um I think they might have characters with prosthetics in that show.
26:16.74
Nandi K
Mmm.
26:16.87
Vance π
But. But anyway, disabled people showing up in in the future is also important in fantasy. um X-Men, obviously, the whole allegory is minorities.
26:24.51
Nandi K
yeah i was thinking of that of course
26:26.46
Vance π
ah X-Ass is in a damn wheelchair. He be out there in the field in a wheelchair.
26:30.37
Nandi K
And he's evil, too, on top of that.
26:31.97
Vance π
Shoot right shooting people and that's represent
26:33.39
Nandi K
evil Guys.
26:34.43
Vance π
That's representation.
26:35.20
Nandi K
Don't let being disabled stop you from being evil.
26:35.56
Vance π
And gay.
26:39.53
Nandi K
And gay.
26:40.94
Vance π
Evil.
26:39.94
Nandi K
You can be evil gay and disabled. Hey.
26:43.42
Vance π
Like x Xavier.
26:43.79
Nandi K
That's me. Oh my God. That's me. oh
26:46.91
Vance π
That's... That's most of the gays.
26:49.63
Nandi K
Yes. Oh my God. Okay. Well, let's talk about.
26:51.54
Vance π
it's accurate
26:52.80
Nandi K
Future Tech. um Obviously, we talked a little bit about like some of the ways that braiding would. Um⦠happen. I'm personally looking forward to teleportation. like I don't want to have to commute to nothing.
27:08.49
Vance π
This is.
27:11.28
Vance π
It's over for you hoes. A teleportation. Look, it's over.
27:14.63
Nandi K
For evil.
27:15.73
Vance π
I mean, because I'm going to be at your house. Like, Nani, I'm coming over in a minute.
27:18.18
Nandi K
I'm gonna be like you know what guys I quit teleporting for good I teleport for evil now.
27:21.56
Vance π
Uh-uh.
27:25.67
Vance π
um When you mad at your friends, you turned yo you turn your teleporter off. Like, no, bitch, you will not.
27:29.85
Nandi K
whoa
27:31.85
Vance π
You will not be here.
27:31.90
Nandi K
Bitch, have your voice hologram up.
27:34.32
Vance π
i
27:35.06
Nandi K
Sit to hologram.
27:35.03
Vance π
Yup. Right. I'm going to block your DNA. like and the dna
27:40.41
Nandi K
You know? Forward to hologram, bitch.
27:41.56
Vance π
And that bitch DNA, right, and that bitch DNA trying to come in here, block, like, send it somewhere else.
27:46.64
Nandi K
Send it somewhere else. Okay, what else are you thinking?
27:48.63
Vance π
Um. wave replicator So for the niggas that don't want to do the work.
27:55.76
Nandi K
No. I don't agree with this. You Niggas don't wanna brush your hair?
27:58.21
Vance π
Uh-uh. Yeah.
28:00.60
Nandi K
We've gone too far.
28:00.85
Vance π
Brush your hair wear do rag 90 it is also a texture thing some of these girls can't they have to try really hard
28:08.95
Nandi K
That means you can't. If you can't, then don't, weak-ass nigga.
28:10.45
Vance π
Bitch. That's what you get the replicator for, bitch.
28:13.42
Nandi K
No.
28:14.10
Vance π
You wake up and think about waves and you got waves.
28:15.47
Nandi K
You get a texturizer?
28:16.82
Vance π
How dare you?
28:17.13
Nandi K
No, this is a texturizer.
28:18.34
Vance π
How dare you, Nandi?
28:19.32
Nandi K
I think you should still have to get a texturizer if you don't have the texture for waves.
28:23.19
Vance π
What if the machine the machine does it and then...
28:25.54
Nandi K
Okay.
28:26.42
Vance π
replicates.
28:27.52
Nandi K
yeah but there should be some kind of like disclaimer so that like bitches know that that's not his real ways and that he gotta to go get a touch-up every six weeks
28:33.72
Vance π
No. it's gonna be It's gonna be like them Niggas with ah extra Black hair like Steve Harvey in the 90s.
28:42.18
Nandi K
A.
28:42.02
Vance π
You're gonna know. You're gonna know. All them Niggas with them piano teeth.
28:44.56
Nandi K
I'm just letting out. Bye!
28:46.12
Vance π
like Like, you didn't do no work to get them chiclets, King.
28:50.05
Nandi K
but Okay, I had non-toxic long wear automatically apply nails. I don't know. Yeah. i don't know if acrylic is like not good for us. It's pretty toxic and so is like whatever is in jail which I think is resin I'm sure in the future.
29:11.39
Nandi K
we can find somewhere where I just show up, pick my design, stick my hands in.
29:11.33
Vance π
We halfway there
29:17.99
Nandi K
o And then I'm out.
29:20.41
Vance π
I think we halfway there. I mean it. I mean it. Cause like 3d printers. Like, I just think.
29:24.95
Nandi K
Oh, you did say that.
29:26.31
Vance π
like the You just need to get the right material.
29:26.61
Nandi K
yeah Yes.
29:28.59
Vance π
I think they got to maybe scan your hands with lasers or some dumb shit.
29:29.13
Nandi K
This is... Yeah.
29:32.75
Vance π
Maybe you have to send it ahead of time or something, like until it gets faster.
29:32.79
Nandi K
Yeah.
29:36.14
Nandi K
Mmm.
29:36.04
Vance π
But I do think they could give you some customized fingers. Like, I think we could do that.
29:39.41
Nandi K
Holy shit.
29:40.26
Vance π
in the next 10 years.
29:41.99
Nandi K
Wow, well that's really exciting. Any other future technology you're looking forward to?
29:52.42
Vance π
Think that was it. I know there's more there's there's always more
29:56.17
Nandi K
Yeah, I'm very much looking forward to like... um I'm like some of the like sex stuff that will be possible. Like, did you watch Upload?
30:03.64
Vance π
Oh, it's... ah I didn't finish it, but it was good.
30:07.70
Nandi K
but you remember like the concept where like in the human world you could like put on a suit and then you could like fuck your dead partner
30:13.14
Vance π
Yeah.
30:16.71
Nandi K
In the suit.
30:16.62
Vance π
Oh yeah. Go, go into the thing.
30:18.34
Nandi K
yeah exactly that sounds exciting to me also fucking alien sounds exciting to me
30:18.77
Vance π
Yes.
30:23.65
Nandi K
Um... My dating pool opens way up in space.
30:27.36
Vance π
Never, never beaten a monster fucker allegations.
30:29.75
Nandi K
Never. Oh, no.
30:30.55
Vance π
ah I'm not trying.
30:30.89
Nandi K
I don't want to be them.
30:32.77
Vance π
ah
30:33.08
Nandi K
They can beat me.
30:36.68
Vance π
No, I think the suit, I think we right there too. Like you know them VR like the VR suits or whatever
30:43.33
Nandi K
Oh yeah! You know what?
30:45.16
Vance π
Because they vibrate.
30:46.63
Nandi K
they Yeah, but how will they simulate penetration?
30:47.03
Vance π
What? when you get hit. I don't know, but
30:51.34
Nandi K
Mmm. this is what i'm saying i'm talking about the full developed technology not this partial shit
30:53.51
Vance π
It may have to be.
30:58.31
Vance π
I mean we're close. I think we're close. Humans.
31:00.75
Nandi K
Yeah.
31:02.16
Vance π
I think we need to be.
31:02.23
Nandi K
Yeah. I'm going to start thinking about that. The suit, it needs to have a built-in lube dispenser. starts starts
31:07.85
Vance π
Oh you already know. I think that's how you get in it.
31:10.97
Nandi K
Math symbols start floating around my head.
31:14.29
Vance π
Uh-uh.
31:16.72
Vance π
Not this hoe science.
31:18.49
Nandi K
Listen, well. I think we did it.
31:21.60
Vance π
We did it.
31:22.56
Nandi K
Yeah. Well. This was great. I love talking about space. A big thanks to our... producer and audio adonis Aaron Rand Rreeman
31:34.32
Vance π
I've been Vance Gowe, and you can find me at Sir (Bleeped) A Thot. at Instagram and threads.
31:40.43
Nandi K
And I'm Nandi K. You can find me on Instagram, threadsandbluesky at Nandi K-A-Y-Y-Y. And follow us on Instagram at rightquickpod.
31:51.52
Nandi K
See you all next time.
31:52.60
Vance π
See ya.
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